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episode 5: Simping 4 Billionaires, Gender BEERnary 04.14.23  

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In episode 1463, Jack and Miles are joined by anti-racism educator, activist, writer and host of White Homework, Tori Williams Douglass, to discuss… New Beer For A**holes Just Dropped, Tim Scott is…Running for President? Few Details I Can Glean About that Harlan Crow Atlantic Article Without Subscribing to The Atlantic and more!

  1. New Beer For A**holes Just Dropped
  2. Tim Scott is…Running for President?
  3. Few Details I Can Glean About that Harlan Crow Atlantic Article...


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 April 14, 2023  1h6m
 
 
00:00   Speaker 1
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty three,
00:03
Episode five of Dirt Daylight Guy Yeah, production of iHeartRadio.
00:08
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
00:10
into America's shared consciousness. And it is Friday, April fourteenth,
00:15
twenty twenty three. Mm hm, guess what it's National Reach
00:19
is High as you Can day. I don't know what
00:21
the fun is. It means. The image is like a
00:24
stock photo of someone on a ladder NFL COMBA of
00:28
undefined height and they're trying to grab a look what
00:30
looks like a milar balloon star from the sky. Okay,
00:34
so symbolism. It's also National ex Spouse Day, Shout out
00:38
your ex's, National guarding gardening Day, look up at the
00:41
sky Day, Dolphin Day, National Pan American Day. I mean
00:45
there's so many, there's too many deeps right now anyway,
00:48
so sell, but we got the important one, Reach as
00:51
high as you can day. Yeah, exactly, And hey, if
00:54
you fail, then just so what you know, oh my back, Jesus,
00:59
shouldn't you failed to just take the RAYJ route and
01:01
just say I don't care, I don't care, I don't care.
01:04
My name's Jack O'Brien ak if you don't know Harlan Crow,
01:11
you will never never have cocktails at his rouse. And
01:17
if you don't own mind comp wow, you will never
01:24
know what a canapey is at his house. That is
01:29
all courtesy a Fighter of the Night Man. He had
01:30
a whole verse, but it's a little it's a little slow,
01:33
a little out of my range, but it was beautiful work.
01:36
A Fighter of the Night Man on the Discord, shout
01:39
out to you, and I'm thrilled to be joined as
01:41
always by my co host mister Miles Grab. I'm gonna
01:45
try and improvise a song right now and just bear
01:47
with me. But um, blood drops on roses and Hitler
01:53
stashes on kittens, bright copper kettles and SS mittens, brown
01:59
paper uniforms like the gesh Stoppo. These are a few
02:05
of Harlan's favor and things. Okay, you know, I tried,
02:07
I tried. I was thinking about that earlier and I
02:09
couldn't improvise it. But you know what, I forgot to
02:12
actually attribute yesterday's me and Missus Missus Jones aka. That
02:17
was from l on the Discord. I respect erqu because
02:22
my mom was a real big plot role fan and
02:25
for the longest time, that was like the only thing
02:27
on on the TV. I'm gonna take classes to learn
02:31
how to say that. Just hey phrase, hey Hercule, that
02:33
many Hercule, Hey Poirot, hey poy rot. All right, well, Miles,
02:41
we are thrilled to be joined in our third ye
02:43
one of our faves anti racism educator, activist, writer, creator
02:48
of the acclaimed podcast White Homework. It's Tory Williams Doug
02:53
all right to be here, always good to have you.
02:59
And you had a child, yeah, And I was just
03:03
asking you out before. I'm like, how when to self
03:07
let baby self soothe? Because I'm I'm look, zike yang lit.
03:10
Y'all know, we're trying to sleep train. We got eleven
03:12
hours the night before and we're like, oh shit, we're
03:15
doing it. Then we went back to about look and
03:18
people are gonna be like, hey, asshole the fact because
03:20
I said, and then he only died seven hours and
03:22
fifteen minutes other night. I know that is good and
03:24
I'm trying to ye. But then a lot of these
03:27
books are like, you gotta let him cry. That's the
03:29
only way they're gonna self sue it through the night.
03:31
And he doesn't really do that I'm going to learn
03:33
about the cold realities of life. Yeah, I mean he's black,
03:37
Japanese and Jewish. He's already have a fucked up life,
03:39
you know what I mean. Feel like I'm trying to
03:41
just make at least this part easy. Yeah, I'm always concerned.
03:45
I'm like, well, let's spoil him. No, he already did
03:48
his time. It's in the ancestors, got him, got him
03:51
covered it. Yeah, right, like, don't don't, don't worry about
03:53
that shit. Yeah, my kids are amazing sleepers. I did
03:56
not do cry it out and they woke up about
03:58
every two hours right forever for like years. Right. Yeah,
04:04
we had a we had a lot of we had
04:06
a lot of sleep struggles and they are incredible sleepers now.
04:10
So oh yeah, okay, there's there's that anecdote. I don't know,
04:13
I don't know, I mean act, but yeah, Jack you
04:16
we I mean, I forget, Like my wife will be like,
04:23
you remember how how bad it was right now with
04:26
our seconds, and I'm like, I don't remember much of
04:29
the I'll go back and look at videos that I
04:32
took of me like playing with them and just have
04:36
no recollection. It was like the the sleep deprivation. Oh
04:40
I don't. I don't think the second I don't think
04:42
we learned enough from the first one for the second
04:45
one to be smooth sailing. So I don't. I wouldn't
04:48
listen to anything that I But also it was also
04:51
different different. You also have that like evolutionary neuralizer thing
04:55
where it's like you forgot all the bad ship to
04:57
keep mine was effect right, right, right? I mean I remember,
05:01
I mean I remember your second was born when this show,
05:04
when we were doing this show. Yeah, and I could definitely,
05:06
I remember. We could chart the levels of tired, not
05:09
first for sure, you would like, but missing words, missing
05:16
entire sentences. This is like your This is like your
05:18
baby demon child, right, who like comes and pounds on
05:20
your door just like that, and monsters. He's such a
05:24
sweet kid and so wonderful during waking hours, but he
05:29
has bush sleep time and then but he he just
05:35
wants to be cuddled. Where he's at an age where
05:37
it's like we're like, he can't be sleeping in our
05:40
bed every night, and so we just trained that out
05:43
of him. But you know, sometimes I'll lay next to
05:47
them to let him get to sleep, and he will
05:50
put his foot on me like a burglar alone, Like
05:54
he can if I start moving. He was like yeah,
05:58
he's like where are you going? Yeah, so yeah, and
06:06
then he will wake up the older one. But the
06:10
older one is a great sleeper at this point, he's
06:13
just been through the ship right with the younger one
06:16
that now he's just like immune to it. It's like
06:18
a or a fire alarm beep. That's just you know,
06:23
completely block it out. You block it out. Yeah, yeah,
06:26
that's real. I have not though, But he's doing great.
06:29
He's doing great, and it's it gets in my experience,
06:33
it just gets better and better parenting, and maybe not
06:36
when they're teenagers, but it really just gets more and
06:40
more fun ye experience. So yeah, yeah, I mean now
06:43
that I'm even getting like smiles, that I can connect
06:46
to something, I like, it's a whole new day. I
06:49
fucking wrapped the first maybe five tracks of the Clips
06:52
album Lord Willing to him yesterday when I was making food.
06:55
I just put him in the chair and I'm just like,
06:59
as if what he said, he's a fan of your rapping,
07:02
he loves rapping, he loves that, he loves I think
07:04
it's just like I'm a very facially expressive person, so
07:08
that just it doesn't matter what I'm saying. And I'm like,
07:10
did you hear me kill that whole big pun verse
07:13
in Twins? I was like, did you know how hardest
07:15
to go dead in the middle of little literally little?
07:17
Did we know that? We rid us a little and
07:20
he's like, it's oh shit. He falls out the high chair,
07:29
Oh shit, puts his hand on her Majesty's shoulders. He's like,
07:34
real fucking hip hop over here. Amazing. All right, well, Tory,
07:38
we're gonna get to know you a little bit better
07:40
in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners some
07:43
of the important things we're talking about. Big news. Newpier
07:47
for assholes just dropped, ultra right, ultra right. Dear, the
07:53
the commercial has been making the rounds. It's like the
07:56
Dollar Shave Club, but racism. Yeah, it seems to be
08:02
the what he was going for. Tim Scott is running
08:05
for president. Oh Tim, I've put together the few the
08:09
few details I can glean about that, the latest Harlan
08:12
Crow defense, the Atlantic article by the Harvard gred These
08:18
are the few details I can glean without subscribing to
08:22
the Atlantic. So we'll talk about that all of that
08:26
plenty more. But first, Tory, we like to task our guests,
08:29
what is something from your search history? Let's see, So
08:34
I have been like on this terror on Instagram in
08:36
the past week or so talking about poverty and like
08:39
the impacts of poverty. So I've been doing all this
08:41
Google searching slash pub med situation about impacts of poverty
08:48
on like your nervous system and your ability to self regulate,
08:50
because it's not good. And I keep hearing people say
08:56
and like, obviously this is just like right wing talking points.
09:00
It's like, oh God, like like if they were just
09:02
stop being so fucking stupid and reckless and like irrational,
09:05
then they wouldn't be poor. And it's like they're right
09:09
exactly exactly. It's like, no, that's how they're acting because
09:13
they're in poverty. Like your nervous system doesn't cope well
09:17
with constant ongoing stress trying to figure out like do
09:21
I buy bus fare home or do I buy lunch?
09:24
Like or is this the day I get shot and killed?
09:27
Exactly exactly. A stat like that, especially with black and
09:30
brown communities, like the number of people who like actually
09:34
fear for their life ending in gun violence, like on
09:37
a daily basis is an obscenely high number compared to
09:41
like white people in America. Yeah, and he's like, try
09:44
living with that on your fucking mind. Yeah, yeah, absolutely
09:47
so change I think. I don't know, but we even
09:52
saw it, right, Like even with like Rick Scott, who's
09:54
like a center, He's like, my friend died in the
09:57
Louisville bank shooting. Oh my god, Yeah, I have nothing
10:00
to say about gun control, and it's like, what for what?
10:04
Why did you even bring that up? He wants people
10:06
to feel sad. I know we were talking about that
10:08
on the trending episode. We're like, oh, what kind of
10:10
weird points do you think you score by being by
10:13
saying like I have a personal connection to this and
10:15
that's why I will still do fuck all about the situation.
10:18
That's how much I love the Second Amendment. I think
10:21
is the oh my god, right, like I don't know
10:24
the real list of them all. I'm the realist patriot
10:26
of them all. My friend just got murked. I'm still
10:29
good up here? Did you hear that? In all right?
10:32
Did you hear that? Okay? Yeah? Still make them out
10:34
to Senator Rick Scott for reelection campaign. Thank you. That's right,
10:37
what is something you think is overrated? Tory? I think
10:40
policing people's joy is really overrated. I think that, yeah,
10:45
try trying to get people to be some sort of
10:47
a way about the things that they enjoy, things that
10:51
don't hurt other people and like don't cause harm to
10:56
the community. I'm just like, why I don't. I don't
10:58
get it. I love saying like I love seeing like
11:01
kids after school, like messing around with each other. Is
11:03
they're like walking home, Like I just love seeing people
11:05
have fun and like, you know, we're walking past the
11:08
park and there's like all of these elders hanging out
11:11
and like they're playing cards or whatever. Like I love
11:13
that shit. And it's really interesting to me how many
11:16
people get upset seeing, especially people of color, experiencing any
11:21
kind of joy at all. Like it's just it's just
11:24
like emotionally upsetting to a lot of white people that specifically.
11:28
But then it's like it's the same thing with like
11:30
gender expression, right, It's like, well you have to eat,
11:32
just like there's two there's two genders, and it's like, well,
11:35
but who fucking cares? Like who cares? Why? Like why
11:39
is this taking up more emotional energy? Right, how do
11:42
you feel well, like I'm I'm this or that? Okay?
11:44
Do you right? Exactly exactly? Like why are you putting
11:48
it on everybody else to be like like just you're
11:52
stressing yourself out for no reason by trying to like
11:55
make little kids look like you have to look like
11:57
a boy or you have to look like a girl.
11:59
There's like no one between mean, like why would you
12:01
why are you expending emotional energy on that ship? Like
12:03
just go live your life. When I was a kid,
12:05
I thought I was a fucking spider, you know what
12:08
I mean, Like just let let kids fucking like do them?
12:12
Do you just fucking do you? That's it's a very
12:15
hard thing. I wish I wish that was in the Bible.
12:18
I know Jesus, I mean, they would probably find a
12:21
way to be Like I think he said, do you
12:24
like to groom children? Is what he was trying to
12:26
That was a sent that Jesus was trying to actually
12:28
finish because I know, like it please just let people
12:31
do their thing. Yeah, policing, did you see something recently
12:34
that like made you feel that way? I mean, mostly
12:37
it's like the anti trans bills and and just the
12:40
idea of like everything has to be this sis hit
12:44
whatever heteronormative relationships and like they're literally trying to make
12:49
that the law. Yeah no, seriously, like why this doesn't
12:54
this literally doesn't affect you. And they're like, no, being
12:56
trans is contagious, Like if we let kids be trans
12:58
in school, then like my kid's gonna catch it. It's
13:00
like the right, is that literally not how it works?
13:03
Oh well that's what my dad always said, and I've
13:07
never bothered to examine that, so I'm just gonna keep
13:09
perpetuating that. Yeah. Yeah, so that was that was really
13:12
what it has been driving that for me. Also, like
13:15
microdocing stuff like that. I'm like, if somebody's being safe,
13:18
like who fucking cares if they're having a good time
13:21
like one night or one weekend with their friends, Like, yeah,
13:24
you're seeing people like a microdocing backlash. Um. I mean, well, okay,
13:29
so Oregon decriminalize everything, which is really fucking cool, And
13:34
then everybody was like crime is skyrocketing, like there's all
13:37
these homeless people and whatever. I'm like, you like, there's
13:41
there's there's no correlation here. There was no correlation here
13:43
at all, Right, Yeah, it's not because of the unaffordable housing. Yeah,
13:46
it's right exactly, It's it's because of the mushrooms and
13:51
so yeah, I'm just I've been I've been seeing I've
13:54
been seeing some of that. The other thing is like
13:56
there there people have been doing these like street races
13:59
and poland, which is not I understand it's like not safe,
14:02
but I'm like I'm trying to be like, well, give
14:04
them a place to do it, like just block off
14:06
an intersection or whatever the fuck they want somewhere right,
14:10
And it's like the track you can give them. There
14:13
is a fucking racetrack here. Like give them some space
14:16
to like blow off steam. Like that's really important and
14:19
literally goes back to this idea of like poverty and
14:21
self regulation. Like if people don't have the space to
14:24
blow off steam, they are going to do bad shit.
14:27
So just like let them do something that is not
14:29
going to hurt anyone in a space where they're not
14:32
going to cause more harm and like be like get
14:35
over yourself, right, or it's like the same. I see
14:37
that all the time with like in Philly or Baltimore,
14:39
like especially with kids on like a TVs and dirt
14:42
bikes and stuff like in the street. Just doing their thing,
14:44
you know, having fun, and they're like they're doing wheelies everywhere,
14:47
and a lot of the people in the community like, well,
14:49
they need a space. This is what they like to do,
14:51
and this is the space we have. Yeah, and we
14:54
live here, So is there another place they can do that,
14:57
because the alternative is them to really be doing some
14:59
other shit that is probably not great. If they want
15:01
to blow steam off by being on a bike or whatever.
15:04
Let's figure out a way to embrace that for people.
15:07
And I get that, like again narrowly right, if could
15:10
the danger that it presents on like a clouded street
15:13
or whatever. So if that's the case, don't just try
15:15
and be like, well y'all not doing that ever again,
15:18
you know, just figure out how to redirect that energy
15:20
in a way that makes sense. But yet, to your point,
15:22
it's not always where they're like, well I don't understand that.
15:25
So it's illegal. Yeah, yeah, and it's but it's it's
15:28
just it's really interesting because it's like, don't have sex,
15:31
don't do drugs, don't drink. And I'm not saying that
15:33
like kids should be drinking or having sex or doing drugs.
15:36
I'm not saying that, but there's like something don't have fun,
15:40
Like every we're just gonna make everything illegal, and then
15:42
all of a sudden, like sweet, we have this whole
15:44
population of workers who we get to control now, I
15:47
guess because everything is illegal. Also based on movies about
15:51
the nineteen fifties, which is the period that they're supposed to, like,
15:55
I feel like drag racing in the La River basin
16:00
was like one of two things that people did people.
16:05
It was that and singing due up around a trash
16:08
camp fire, only two things that you were allowed to do.
16:13
Oh man, But that I mean that brings up a
16:15
really good point, like cruising is illegal, yeah, because there's
16:18
no where you can do that, and it's just like okay,
16:21
you just really don't want people to exist, like you
16:23
want them to be as miserable as possible or show
16:26
their pride off in their rides, you know what I mean.
16:28
Because Crenshaw, like in La that used to be the
16:30
fucking spot like on Sundays and now the fuck like
16:33
you know, we saw it change all the times, like
16:35
no fucking cruising ever, right, yeah, and those are like
16:38
I remember going with like my family to go see
16:42
like I would look at these cars and shit, and yeah,
16:44
there might be some unsavory figures there, but at most
16:47
of the time people respected the fact that everybody was
16:49
there wanting to show off their rides and be and
16:52
have community or whatever. But yeah, but community is not profitable.
16:58
The community is not profitable. Rights is not profitable. Loneliness
17:02
is profitable because especially now with phones. That is the
17:05
one complained about phones that I think is accurate, is
17:08
that it's given them a new way to monetize loneliness, right,
17:13
And I guess it goes to like, you know, I
17:15
guess it's kind of like a third like the discussion
17:17
of like third places or whatever, you know, like you
17:20
have those social environments or at the very least, like now,
17:23
I feel like in America the only place you can
17:25
congregate is somewhere that is tied to commerce. Yeah, yeah,
17:28
you know what I mean. Like we don't necessarily have
17:30
the like we don't have the same parksist or at
17:33
least not in LA. There's a lot of places where
17:35
it's not as easy to just like hang out somewhere
17:38
unless you are there to spend money for a specific reason. Right,
17:43
What is something Tori that you think is underrated? I
17:46
think kids are underrated not having kids. Having kids is
17:50
not Like I really don't like it when people are like, oh,
17:53
you gotta have kids, you're going to be unfulfilled, or
17:55
you're just gonna be really lonely, or it was gonna
17:56
take care of you when you're old. Like I'm not
17:58
here for any of that bullshit. I just mean, like, kids,
18:00
like a genre of humans, are really fucking cool. And
18:04
I wish that like more people understood, you know, like
18:07
just even the basics of like human brain development, because
18:10
it's like once you get that, it's like, oh, like
18:12
this is this is a whole last person here, and
18:15
like everything that I can do to like invest in
18:18
them as a as a person, just even just some
18:20
like conversation and hanging out and like interacting that like
18:24
all that stuff matters, right because it's actually isn't that
18:27
hard to support kids, and data shows like having one
18:31
adult that you feel like is in your corner makes
18:34
all of the difference when you're growing up, you know,
18:37
and like that that carries over into adulthood. And so yeah,
18:41
I mean I just think kids as people are are underrated. Again,
18:46
this is not like it go make babies, you know,
18:49
but if somebody. If somebody has a baby and like
18:51
wants me to babysit, Miles, I totally will come down.
18:55
Come down, Yeah, come to come through, come through babies
18:58
and kids. I mean next week, next week, the guy's
19:01
child will be in the studio, So hold on those
19:04
episodes because yeah, her majesty at work. My mom is
19:08
in Japan, and I was saying, I was like, I
19:11
could maybe find childcare, but I really want to embrace
19:14
trying to be a parent. And you got start their
19:19
social profile too. You gotta make sure that they start
19:22
to get their voice out there exactly so you will
19:25
hear little coups in the background. And I'm just want
19:28
to warn y'all listeners for next week please don't be
19:30
you know, bothered by that, because again, kids are dull, Okay, Yeah,
19:34
they're listening to argue that somebody so that you can
19:38
kind of get used to the sounds next year and
19:45
you are kids are Yeah, kids are truly the best.
19:49
My son asked me this morning how he gets ideas
19:53
in his head that nobody told him. Hell, yeah, I
19:57
don't know. That is such an interesting way to just
20:01
like articulate that. Yeah, he was like, because like sometimes
20:05
I just like make up stuff at school, like I
20:08
got I was telling people that the color blue is
20:11
darker than the color green, and I was like, I
20:13
don't know that that's true, but why not broadly? But
20:20
I'm sure like on a color wheel, They're like, I
20:22
mean there there is more black and blue. I don't
20:24
know whatever, but isn't it Isn't it a primary? But
20:26
I don't even know if I was like that, it's
20:28
called creativity, yeah, like yeah, yeah, but that's not what
20:31
I'm looking for. That's not the answer he was looking for.
20:34
He wanted like some kind of Greek thing about genus
20:36
and like he's like, well, the Greeks, you should say
20:38
someone had a genius rather than someone was a genius,
20:42
and that in fact they would be visited by this
20:44
other entity that would give them ideas. Is that what
20:47
made you like that? You? Yeah, that's probably more what
20:50
he was looking for. Yeah, that is actually an obsession
20:54
that kids go through or like that some kids have.
20:57
It's in the category of you know, sharks, dinosaurs, Greek mythology.
21:02
That's the one I'm most interested in. It most surprised
21:05
by Alloway's mind with all this shit. I like read
21:08
freshman year of college. Just hit him with those facts.
21:11
Now it's like, you know it hit him with some
21:13
Alan Watts type shit too, been like, yeah, do you
21:16
think we're special on this? David Hume would say that
21:18
you don't have any ideas. It's called empiricism. My dad
21:26
would always hit me with shit like that. So I
21:28
was a very weird kid, like early on in school
21:31
and teachers were like, why are you saying that to
21:32
the other kids. I'm like, why did you bring a
21:35
condom to school? I'm like, because I went to the
21:37
aid's walk and they were handing them out. Oh that's
21:42
And my dad wasn't gonna, like, you know, try and
21:45
sugarcoat anything very much, explained like the AIDS epidemic to
21:48
me and what condoms were. And I was in kindergarten,
21:51
i remember, and then I went to school and I
21:53
talked about it and they got so mad. They're like
21:56
and they were like, what are you telling your son?
21:58
And my dad was like, the about the world, the
22:02
communities that he like, he interacts with, and to know
22:05
about that and that shouldn't be something obscured. Yeah, anyway,
22:09
my kid wants to do a Greek mythology Lego set
22:12
where he wants Lego to make a Lego set that
22:15
is all the Greek gods. Yeah, that's that, yeah, because
22:22
that's what he's advocating for right now. So yeah, okay, Lego,
22:26
you heard us, your cowards over in Denmark tired of
22:31
this Danish supremacy man. But I do think that's one
22:35
of those things that is I think we put a
22:37
call out like early on for listeners to like tell
22:41
us what their weird obsession was when their kid. Mine
22:43
was sharks and miles wos yours you had, you had
22:47
a bunch of them. I feeling dinosaurs the Civil War year,
22:52
but Greek was the one, like surprise, you know, my
22:55
kid was like trains and then sharks and fish and
23:00
now Star Wars. But a bunch of people hit us
23:03
with the oh, it was actually Greek mythology. I was obsessed.
23:07
My child was a Napoleon Bonaparte for like over a year,
23:11
so interesting, Napoleon everything, And like my partner tries to
23:16
like kind of be like, well, you know, Napoleon was
23:18
technically like a dictator, and he's like, no, he was
23:21
just a populist and he decided to take over things
23:24
and like they're having this coversation like what is happening
23:29
right now? Like, yeah, can you take take a trip
23:32
to the Garden of Evil? I think damn it? Or
23:40
he's like, mother, can you take me to Corsica? Yeah?
23:44
Literally no, He's like days, he's like if I He's like,
23:48
if I become a He's like, if I become a
23:50
Swiss politician, do you think that I could get into
23:52
the UN and like take over Western Europe? Like what
23:55
is your child? Sir? Yeah? Sure, why not do it?
24:00
Do it? He's like he's like practicing French on due
24:02
lingo every single day, Like he's that like a one
24:05
hundred day street. He's like committed to this, this to
24:08
becoming Napoleon. Well, I'm like doing kind of like a
24:11
reverse colonization because he's like I'm gonna give all of
24:13
the colonies back to all of the all the people,
24:16
and then I'm going to take over Europe. I'm like, oh,
24:18
I's gonna do it. Yeah. I'm like, okay, I can't
24:20
really argue with this logic. Child's timeline. Do they have
24:25
a Napoleonic lego set like the Napoleon Oh? I don't
24:29
think so. I don't think so, but you can. You
24:31
can submit ideas so they to lego's ideas and if
24:34
you get like ten thousand votes, I think they'll like
24:36
make the set. Why. Yeah, it's smart, a smart way
24:40
to do it. Yeah. Yeah, Napoleon. Hollywood has been sitting
24:44
on a Napoleon movie forever, like they you know, like
24:48
Kubrick was supposed to make a Napoleon movie. They just
24:51
keep putting it. Oh, keep kicking kicking, okay, yeah, and
24:57
then the Greek myth thing I guess Percy Jackson was
25:00
was that but yeah, I don't know my kids, but
25:02
it was more but that's more of a kids movie. Yeah. Yeah.
25:05
Would a Napoleon lego figure be smaller than the other
25:09
lego if it was historically accurate? Well, my child would
25:14
say that he actually wasn't that short for the time
25:18
you can get It's like funny like on Etsy people
25:20
are selling Napoleon legos like they're like, hey, we got custed.
25:26
We know you like that Napoleon with your money right now?
25:30
Can you send me that link so I can buy
25:31
that for my kid. I was already thinking. I was like, oh,
25:35
let me see if I can find something for your chard.
25:38
I'm in dad mode y'all great if you if you
25:42
have the time to like wait for you know, a
25:46
little longer. But like that's where my wife got a
25:48
great spider Man Halloween cost him on it. Like they will,
25:53
they will customize. That's there's some great artists on there
25:57
doing good work. Oh I love this. This is amazing.
26:01
Of course. Look I'm always looking out for the children. Yeah,
26:04
DZ is for the children. As they say, all right,
26:07
well the right has a new Etsy project coming to
26:10
us that well we'll talk about it's a new beer
26:13
just for assholes. Well when you said that, I thought
26:16
you meant like for like for you to boof for
26:20
your asshole. And I was like and I was like,
26:22
oh this story, no, no, no, no other than well,
26:24
I mean you know Brett would be into that. Brett, Yeah,
26:27
haven on beach chugging, dude, bea chug All right, we'll
26:30
be right back and we're back. And Seth Weathers is
26:45
a name that I now know that I didn't know,
26:49
didn't have to know. So this is a GOP strategist.
26:53
I don't know how official that designation is. Conservative Dad.
26:58
Seth Weathers just launched a beer specifically market marketed to
27:02
transphobes ultra right beer, and he claims it's the beer
27:07
that hasn't been infected by the woke mind virus. It
27:11
starts out with Weathers complaining about trans people using public restrooms,
27:15
and then it cuts to him exiting the men's room. Yeah,
27:19
just listen to this, because this whole thing's like, I
27:21
make beer for people that know what bathroom they like. Really, yeah,
27:25
that's the hook point, and just listen to this absolute
27:29
drivel from Seth Myers or whatever. That's why I created
27:33
Conservative Dad's ultra right woke free beer. As conservatives, we're
27:40
constantly getting hit in the face left and right by
27:43
the woke mind virus. Oh, if you know what, you
27:51
know what beer should be drinking. Stop giving money to
27:53
woke corporations, hate our values, and to the rescue woke corporations.
28:03
Say that. Okay anyway, So if you're really angry at
28:08
aluminum cans, you like to wear backwards trucker hats, and
28:12
you haven't seen your kids in six years, I think
28:14
this is beer for you. Yeah. He smashes a can
28:18
of bud Light with a baseball bat on a te
28:22
t ball. You know, the most macho thing an adult
28:25
man can do is play tea ball in a park
28:28
that is completely empty, again because he has alienated himself
28:34
from regular society because he's so angry at a beer
28:37
can because he knows what bathroom to use. Yeah, sure, sure,
28:41
these people know they're being drifted, Like they can't. I
28:45
just refuse to believe they're that stupid to I don't
28:48
don't know they're being drifted. Let's pump the brakes on
28:51
calling it a grift because this beer, which no doubt
28:54
tastes wonderful, they're charging twenty dollars for a six pack.
29:00
It has a lower AVV than smearknoff ice, it has
29:05
a lower ABV than bud Light. It's basically water. So
29:10
it's it's it's it's it's Utah beer. Yeah, it's like
29:15
the right, Yeah, okay, that's only a very technically beer
29:20
because you're I mean, I feel like the other like
29:23
the hyper masculine attack would be like Leach, you're a
29:26
low ABV beer, you snowflake. But again, whatever his operation
29:31
he's doing to like make these beers very quickly, it
29:34
probably you're not able to be I guess take your
29:36
pick of the litter of all the beers. Out there.
29:38
But yeah, that twenty dollars for a six pack is
29:40
like not even. I can't even. I have a feeling
29:43
that this is just part of he's got something else.
29:46
He's gonna use this to like raise his stock in
29:48
the fucking right wing outrageous sphere. You know, he's got
29:52
lots of other things he's got does uh. He also
29:58
sold a T shirt with a QR code on it.
30:02
It says, scan my vaccine passport the t shirt does
30:06
you scan the QR code? And then it takes you
30:08
to a website that is called freedom speaks Up dot
30:13
com and it, oh, no, sorry that freedom speaks Up
30:17
dot com is where you can buy the and I'm
30:24
guessing our audience is not going to be a fan.
30:26
And then it takes you to a website on bring
30:29
ammo dot com that is just a picture, a photograph
30:33
that he took of the US Constitution my vaccine passport,
30:38
finger pointing down to the US Constitution. Then siren, I
30:43
am not a sheep, siren. The US Constitution is the
30:49
only document I will ever need to travel freely in
30:51
the US. Okay, not true, not daddy sovereign. I don't
30:58
need a driver's license so my driver's license is the
31:02
Constitution of States. Learn the difference between driving and traveling. Okay,
31:07
that's what I'm gonna tell you, officer, where's your where's
31:09
your supervisor? Because I'm not driving, I'm traveling. Read the
31:12
US Constitution. Why are you breaking my window? Why are
31:15
these people? Man? I love? I mean who I really
31:21
want to know what his like family situation is, Like
31:23
if you got this kind of time when you're like,
31:25
you know what I'm gonna do? Got an ultra right beer? Yeah,
31:28
that is going to maybe just get me sued or
31:31
something like that. And people, God, I feel like we
31:36
like for how much we kind of stay on top
31:38
of like the outrage culture war stuff Jack, we should
31:42
have been able to get ahead of this guy and
31:44
started grifting already and being like, oh yeah, try this
31:48
ultra like anti woke beer and then find print all
31:50
the proceeds go to like the Trevor like the Trevor Project,
31:53
you know what I mean, like that kind of thing.
31:55
And he seeple have too much money, the fact that
31:59
like Trump can raise us like millions of dollars because
32:02
he starts crying for a minute after like having to
32:05
go into a meeting. It's like this, these people have
32:09
too much money. I just I fully support I would
32:11
like I want to do. I want to do the
32:13
like full blown the Maga crowd with them for the left,
32:18
you know what I mean, like literally, you know, like
32:22
with with you know, I feel like I have a
32:25
better marketing eye than this fucking guy. And you market
32:28
something and then you just completely own them when they
32:31
buy your ship, like here's the alternative that Nike, bro,
32:35
And then you're like you just gave all your money
32:38
to these candidates, Thank you so much. Oh kay, But
32:40
like Nike's Nike's like part of the fucking problem, right,
32:43
Like they use like black and brown people's athletic accomplishments,
32:46
and then like Phil Knight is just like laughing his
32:48
way all the way to the RNC to like write
32:50
a fucking check. Yeah it's not I mean, you know,
32:53
but like I don't know, it's like it's it's woke
32:55
to have that trans model or something, even though the
32:59
dudes giving your money to the fucking Republican Party. Yeah,
33:03
it's never. That's what's so funny is they're never like
33:05
staying on top of where they stand on all the issues,
33:08
which is like you know, we give our money to
33:09
like a lot of these creeps that you love. Right,
33:12
we just do this to like appear like we're a
33:14
like a sane company to the public. Right. Well, yeah,
33:18
the outrage continues, the outrage. I missed this story mostly,
33:23
Like I mean, it's mainly that bud Light employed a
33:27
trans influencer. Yeah, and that that's it, right, that's it. Yeah,
33:34
stay away from our kids will corporate. So it's just
33:38
that they would even market like with a trans person
33:44
is yeah, wow, Yeah, it's it's fine. They take their
33:48
kids to church every Sunday, not not nobody grooming anybody there.
33:52
The other thing is too like we we actually talked
33:54
about this on one of the past episodes, like have
33:56
you not seen bud Lights like pride campaigns every year? Right?
34:01
What it seems like they were waiting for the right
34:04
thing to do. They know what do they know? What
34:06
the t is? An lgb q t lg lgb qt yeah,
34:12
lgbt q. I'm sorry, do you know what I mean?
34:15
I'm sorry Liga bigga tigo like that dude off TikTok,
34:17
now you know what I mean? Like, because then did
34:21
you see, oh Jack, I don't think you missed it.
34:23
There was one bust add that bud Light did that said,
34:26
like during Pride, it said lgbt Q and it said,
34:29
let's get beers tonight queens. Yes? Is that real? Yes? Yes,
34:35
I mean and like that also see like ought to
34:39
be set. That's amazing night queens. Satire is so dead,
34:49
it's being just destroyed by like much better satire than
34:54
reality everything. So the new pastime too is like Kevin
34:57
Sorbo on Twitter just tweeting is like, oh, bud Light,
35:01
the Anheuser Bush just lost like seven billion dollars in
35:06
market cap or whatever, and they're like, yeah, they're losing.
35:10
It's like asshole. They own every beer you drink basically, yeah,
35:15
they're all owned by the same company. They're like three companies.
35:18
What the beers that you're switching to are the same
35:21
exact You have a very high probability that, like if
35:24
without being too like you know, they're putting too much
35:27
scrutiny into your beer, that you are just giving Anheiser
35:30
Busch in Bev your money again. But anyway, it's for
35:34
another discussion about and if this does permanently dent bud
35:37
Lights sales, I would have to assume that that has
35:41
more to do with the fact that people these people
35:44
had never tried a beer besides bud Light to this point,
35:48
and they're now trying like their first non bud Light
35:50
beer and they're like, wait, so beer can like have
35:53
taste to it? That? Yeah, but that that like that
35:57
three pack of Tall Boys, that's like a state of
36:00
like LA construction workers. Right, you know what I mean,
36:03
Like it ain't going anywhere. But okay, you know, do
36:07
you do you? All right, let's take a quick break.
36:10
We'll come back, we'll talk to Tim Scott, we'll talk
36:13
some other news, and we're back, and South Carolina Senator
36:28
Tim Scott has announced that he is running for president. Yeah,
36:33
not from his own self loathing. Somehow I thought he
36:35
would be running from that, but no, he's trying to
36:37
run towards the White House without knowing anything about him.
36:42
You just you already know he has no chance, you
36:45
know what I mean. That's what's so funny about this
36:48
to me, Like, you know, here's the future of like
36:50
the Republican Party as I see it. If you don't
36:52
actually come for Trump's ass and be able to beat
36:55
him at his own game, you will not do shit,
36:58
that's just where energetically, that's just where it's at. That's
37:01
the only thing I think that's gonna move the needle
37:03
for somebody's gonna be like, nah, this guy sucks. He's
37:06
actually not far right enough, and I'll own you in
37:08
a debate or whatever. Everyone's like, you know, everyone is
37:12
very They're deferential to Trump, and that's truly at their
37:15
own peril. Right now, Tim Scott isn't even polling in
37:18
the double digits in his own fucking state of South Carolina.
37:22
Trump is like ahead of the field by twenty points,
37:24
and Ronda Santis is like, you know, back another flight.
37:28
I think, oh yeah, he's He's ahead of de Santis
37:29
by twenty points. So a lot of people are like,
37:32
what is the point of this? And his campaign launch video,
37:35
if you saw it, it's truly one of the saddest
37:37
things I've seen for starters. He fundamentally, I think, has
37:41
no idea what the Civil War represents because he filmed
37:44
it at fucking Fort Sumter, Okay, one of the place
37:48
where you know, white supremacist s sessionists were like, yeah,
37:51
let's fucking go after this government facility and just kick
37:54
off the Civil War and he talks about how he
37:57
will never back down, but like many history off are
38:00
like you know, like Sumter was never taken by the Union,
38:03
like once they took it, it was only abandoned after
38:06
the fact. So like, so, how what are the sides?
38:11
Who exactly are you are? Who are the Confederates? Because
38:15
the modern day GOP, like you know, the conservatives of
38:19
like that time, they were not about equality. If my
38:22
recollection holds correctly about the Civil War, I thought there
38:25
were just about states, right smiles than that, Yeah, it
38:28
was it was about commerce, was about commerce. Just it's
38:30
only about commerce. I know some people have like tweeted
38:33
at me, They're like, well, it was also about commerce.
38:35
I'm like, that's not okay, the commerce of what goods? Yeah,
38:40
which goods in particular? Was it your king by the
38:43
name of cotton? But anyway, like they like based on
38:47
the images though that like suddenly he's like, you know,
38:49
the America's gon divided, and like we're having to stand
38:52
tall against people that would rather bring the country down
38:54
their flashing images of Bernie AOC, Elizabeth Warren and Biden,
38:58
And I think he's trying to say that they are
39:00
the bad guys because that whole thing of like you know,
39:03
Lincoln was a Republican and then just act like there's
39:06
no other context that that would be meaningful to this
39:09
like depiction. So you know, good luck to that man.
39:12
It's kind of like a tragic comedy, I think at
39:14
this point. Yeah, like his whole run because he clearly
39:17
has no idea what's going on, even like with his
39:19
own base, and that like the GOP's constant messaging and
39:23
like of racism and fearmongering has turned them into a
39:26
group that is incapable of understanding policy. They don't even
39:29
care well fuck policy, they only know blood. Yeah, and
39:33
like his whole thing's like I want to get to
39:34
brass tex So, Like, bro, they're gonna eat you alive.
39:37
M did you know his signature His signature piece of
39:41
legislation is it's urban restoration. It's literally giving tax breaks
39:46
to developers to do gentrification. Like that is that man's
39:51
like on his fucking website. That is his signature piece
39:53
of legislation. I'm pretty sure passed under Trump. But anyway, right,
39:58
I mean remember too when he tried to enter like
40:00
there was his like policing bill too that they're like, hey,
40:03
in the summer twenty twenty, like, hey, you're our black senator,
40:06
you should introduce this bill of incremental Change and we'll
40:08
treat it as revolutionary. And you know, he got his
40:11
little applause and things like that, but it's just like
40:14
it feels like this like a scene in a movie
40:16
where like a dorky kid wants to ask the most
40:18
popular girl to prom even though she's totally out of
40:21
his league and a violent racist. Like we're as the audience,
40:24
you like, we all know the outcome. Yeah, he's still
40:27
like walking up with his like like box of Russell
40:30
Stover's chocolates and be like, um, callie, you know what
40:34
I mean. And it's just like no, man, no, full,
40:39
get the fuck away. She's raised. What the fuck you
40:41
trying to do? Man? Leave her alone? Leave that shit alone.
40:45
So yeah, there's also he already had he had an
40:48
opportunity to act like a serious candidate too, when he
40:51
was asked about you know, abortion, because that's a that's
40:54
a big deal right now, and it's probably it's it's
40:57
proven to be a losing fucking policy platform, policy point
41:01
for the Republicans. And I'll play this clip for you
41:04
where he's asked about abortion, and I just want to
41:06
warn you he has a pretty good answer. Who the
41:09
fuck am I kidding? He absolutely fucked the bed with
41:11
his answer about abortion. Try and even decipher what he
41:15
even means with this answer. When he's asked about where
41:17
he's at on abortion. Yes, sir, would you support a
41:20
federal ban on abortions? I would suddenly say that the
41:23
fact that it matters when you look at the issue
41:25
of abortion. One of the challenge that we have. We
41:26
continue to go to the most restrictive conversations without broadening
41:30
the scope and thinking I'm one hundred percent pro life.
41:33
I never walk away from that. But the truth of
41:35
the matter is that when you look at the issues
41:37
on abortion, I start with the very important conversation I
41:41
had in a banking hearing when I was sitting in
41:44
my office and listening to the Janet yell In, the
41:46
Secretary of the Treasury talk about increasing the labor force
41:49
participation rate for African American women by having abortions. I
41:54
think we're just having the wrong conversation. Oh my fucking guy,
42:00
my man, my man, wow wow wow wow. So so
42:07
what is oh my god, well, I mean to me,
42:12
this this this gets right up there with the domestic
42:17
supply of infants launching. Oh yeah, like this is this
42:21
is the actual conversation we're having, is like should we
42:23
keep black women in the labor force or should we
42:24
forced them to have children so that we have more
42:27
bodies for the jails? Like, right, what are you even
42:30
talking about? Man? And that's where my mind went through
42:32
a comm I'm looking I look at abortion through a
42:36
commerce lens, right, or committee meeting that I was in. Yeah,
42:42
like ay, but again, you know, go ahead man, Like
42:45
this is so that's why it's so funny to watch
42:47
them deal with this like plutonium rod of the abortion issue.
42:51
They don't know, like to just drop it and throw
42:54
it as far away from them as possible, and like,
42:57
I think it's melting my skin because I'm holding it's
43:01
still like fuck off. But anyway, this is this is
43:04
what they got. Well, speaking of what they got, they
43:09
got they got billionaires on their side. Yeah. And so
43:14
we we mentioned in passing past couple of days that
43:18
The Atlantic was entering the fray with the Wall Street
43:20
Journal with a column from somebody being like, you guys,
43:24
what are you talking about? Harlan Crowe is totally normal
43:29
Nazi paraphernalia collector doesn't mean he's a Nazi. The So
43:34
this is the Atlantic, you know, presumably considered to be
43:38
like center left journalistic institution, you know, even though the
43:43
center what is considered to be the center left and
43:45
the United States is actually far right, far right. But
43:49
I just want to read how the article opens, because
43:52
this it just it's an interesting It's by somebody named
43:55
Graham Wood or Graham would never seen Graham spelled this
43:59
way for English. For English, Gray Jr. Aemy would so.
44:04
First sentence. I've never met Harlan Crowe, Supreme Court Justice
44:08
Clarence Thomas's billionaire best friend, but I have peered through
44:12
the fence surrounding his estate late at night, and once
44:14
I went inside and snooped around for a couple hours.
44:17
Last year, Crowe and his wife Kathy put on an
44:20
event to honor two Dallas humanitarians, and I was invited
44:23
with about one hundred others for cocktails and canopies in
44:27
the Crow's cavernous library, a Texas scale wood panel room
44:31
with walk in fireplace and a collection of art and
44:33
memorabilia worthy of a bond villain. So that's an interesting start.
44:38
And you might suspect that him snooping outside of this
44:43
compound that contains Nazi memorabilia was like him as a
44:48
journalist being like, there's something up with this guy. There's
44:51
just like something that doesn't scan. He's always like hanging
44:55
out with these really influential right wing dignitaries and lead
45:00
and Supreme Court justices, and like so I'm I've hung out,
45:03
I've like kind of kept my eye. But it turns
45:06
out that it's like actually aspirational and he just like
45:11
was hanging out there because he wants to like get
45:14
invited in, and like was excited because he goes on
45:17
to just be like he's a total sweetheart. Essentially. It's
45:23
that last paragraph of it that's really fucking wild of
45:27
like where you kind of have half of the quote
45:30
from the last paragraph. Yeah, it's simply isn't possible to
45:34
be a Nazi crypto or otherwise and simultaneously being Abe
45:38
Lincoln and Liz Cheney fanboy. Let alone to conceal from
45:42
your dearest confidence among them black and Jewish people, your
45:45
preference for the master race, he wrote. Then he says
45:50
that he him if he were ever to become a billionaire,
45:54
he would buy one of those gold dinars, the official
45:57
currency minted by the Islamic State, and that was like
46:01
his beat, like as a journalist was he was covering
46:04
that a lot. So I think he was trying to
46:06
like put this thing of like, Okay, this is how
46:09
this is. You know, I'm into like, I covered some
46:11
pretty awful stuff, and I'm kind of maybe with like
46:14
a coin, I guess, just to like for frenzies, right,
46:18
And then he says, some strangers might suppose that because
46:20
I own such a repugnant item, I must have secretly
46:23
pledged my soul to Abu Bakar al Baghdadi. But my
46:27
friends would know otherwise because they are not morons. Ah. Yes,
46:32
So it's just that like kind of dismissive Ivy League
46:34
Harvard bullshit where it's just like everybody who says this
46:37
is dumb. If you say someone's Hitler or into Nazis
46:41
because they have a signed copy of mine, COUMF, You're
46:44
just dumb and you're not as cultured as I am.
46:46
Excuse me while I finished stuffing my face with Canopez.
46:52
There's there's also an older article the in the Atlantic,
46:55
because he's written for the Atlantic for a while talking
46:58
about being a high school class of Richard Spencer. Oh,
47:02
don't worry, he's not a fan of Richard Spencer. But
47:05
that article opens with him bragging about being at a
47:08
Christmas party bash with Richard Spencer for Reason Magazine, the
47:13
libertarian publication, and he's not like and I infiltrated this.
47:19
It's like, yeah, I got to go to this cool
47:21
Christmas party with Reason Magazine, a libertarian publication. But I
47:26
don't know, I like, I'm sure there's a world where
47:29
Harlan Crowe is just doesn't have an ideological thought in
47:33
his head that he's aware of, you know. And it's
47:36
just like Tackley collecting these things based on the fact
47:41
that they make the people around him oh and ah,
47:44
and you know they seem important, and then just like
47:48
throwing them all up next to each other with no context,
47:52
like it's a TGI Fridays. But it's like the first
47:56
of all, the fact that like his audience is like,
47:59
ooh my god, like look how nice the cutlery and
48:03
napkin wear of the Nazis were is weird. And also
48:08
it's just revealing that like this Harvard grat, like this
48:11
this person who's supposed to be at the center of
48:14
like mainstream media like dives in and like, you know,
48:19
is giving the benefit of the doubt to this billionaire, right,
48:23
you know what, would not do would not even think
48:26
to do the same thing with somebody who's murdered by
48:29
the police, for instance, you know so, But when it
48:32
comes to the most powerful people in the country, they
48:37
rush in to be like, you gotta give him the
48:39
benefit of the doubt. He's just into the stuff because
48:41
it's cool. It's the other thing that he says, hold on,
48:45
I gotta fucking stupid things paywald and I'm gonna give
48:48
him my fucking money. I know. That's that's what makes
48:51
this all so difficult. There's there's this one part where
48:53
he basically says like he's saying like if I, if I,
48:57
if I wanted to unburden myself of the billions of
49:00
dollars of inherited wealth, I too might invest in curious
49:04
historical pieces. He leaves is the term like unburdened myself
49:07
of billions of dollars, And you're like, oh, the burden
49:11
of having What else are you're gonna do but buy
49:15
Nazi shit? When you got billions of dollars, please y'all
49:18
come to see look at the point, and he hangs
49:21
out with Jewish people and black people. He can't be
49:24
into the master race. And again I'm not even saying
49:29
like it's it's a nailed on thing. I'm like, sure,
49:32
maybe he has some weird quirk about it. But I'll
49:34
tell you this, if I had billions of dollars, I'm
49:36
not buying Nazi shit, Okay, I'm buying weird fucking I
49:40
don't even know what. I don't even have the I
49:42
have the mind, like the imagination to put myself there,
49:45
like what would I buy? But it feels like like
49:48
that's what myself interesting is that, like this person who
49:50
writes for The Atlantic supposedly center left, like widely regarded.
49:54
If you asked anybody who like writes to the New
49:56
York Times to be like that place is center left
49:58
or you know, sure, Like this is a person who
50:02
peers through the gates of a billionaire's home at night
50:05
and fantasizes about the weird murder paraphernalia he would buy
50:10
when he becomes a billionaire, right, Like, that's who is
50:15
at the center of the mainstream media. The center, Yeah,
50:19
the mainstream media. Well look again, it's it's all about
50:22
the status quo at the end of the day. And
50:24
to like begin a real earnest discussion of like this
50:28
is this is why everything so fucked up might be
50:30
a bridge too far, and it's better to just be
50:32
like is it that bad to have a ton of money?
50:34
And yeah, you're into weird historical stuff, right, nothing to
50:38
see here, Okay, keep it moving. I personally think it's
50:43
fucking weird to collect Nazi stuff. I'm going on the record, Yeah,
50:48
you're not gonna find me collecting that shit. If anything,
50:50
I'd be like I'd buy like a weird I'd buy
50:53
so much weird sports crap probably, you know, like meaningless shit,
50:58
like a fucking ticket from like Arsenal match of like
51:02
yester Year for nothing, you know what I mean. Yeah,
51:05
it's just like I don't know like that. I even
51:07
the thought of like Nazi memorbill just freaks me out,
51:10
Like I don't want to fucking even Like there's this
51:12
guy who was a friend of a friend who I remember,
51:16
like like something came to lighting it, like, yeah, I
51:19
found out this guy collects like a bunch of Nazi stuff. Yeah,
51:23
And they're like they're then and I met them, They're
51:25
like they're such Wait that guy he's so nice. He's
51:27
like yeah, he's kind of like really into that stuff.
51:29
And I'm like, it's never been I have to I
51:35
don't know anybody who that, but I gotta think it's
51:37
an every good time. But it's just interesting to think
51:39
about the audience of this stuff that has driven him
51:43
to continue to keep a bunch of like Nazi Dinner
51:47
were on display, a painting by Hitler next to a
51:51
painting by Norman Rockwell and a painting by George Bush,
51:55
who he think George W. Bush, who he thinks is
51:57
a hero, presumably based on his feelings about Lynne Cheney.
52:01
He like the audience for that, Like the feedback that
52:06
he's getting is like, whoa cool And that makes total
52:11
sense because like there was a fascist coup like around
52:16
the time that Hitler was rising to power in the
52:19
United States by the richest people to try and like
52:23
have a fascist overthrow of the US government, and like
52:26
that that hasn't gone away, Like those are still the
52:29
richest people in the country. Sure, they're still the most
52:32
powerful people. It's just they've become more and more powerful,
52:36
and it's becoming like invisible because they're the ones who
52:39
are like writing for the fucking Atlantic. So it's just
52:43
like that becomes a thing that we just accept and
52:47
get like chided and called morons for thinking is fucking weird,
52:51
you know, it's that's what a rhetorically powerful way to
52:55
end that defense of like, but my friends would know otherwise,
53:00
and that's why they're my friends because they are not morons.
53:03
So again, that's what's so funny. He's like you for
53:05
all this like fucking posturing and bloviating you're doing in
53:08
this piece, you just end it. You're basically the whole
53:12
thrust of the pieces. Y'all are just morons because y'all
53:15
don't know him. Yeah, that's not really a good defense
53:18
if you're you're actually trying to assuage people's concerns about
53:21
this fucking guy. I feel like the well he has
53:24
black and Jewish friends is kind of like doing a
53:26
lot of work, because I think once you get to
53:28
the point of like, I, you know, my black friends
53:31
don't care that I have like Hitler shit sitting around,
53:34
It's like, yeah, because all you any of you want,
53:37
all of any of your friends want is like the
53:39
accumulation of power, like nobody cares. And to me, it's
53:43
like that's like a power play, right that you have
53:46
like Hitler shit up and it doesn't it doesn't matter,
53:48
and I'm not trying to hide it. And it's not like, oh,
53:50
I have this little closet over here behind a bookshelf
53:53
that I put all my Hitler stuff in because I
53:54
don't want anybody to see it when I'm throwing my party,
53:56
Like he has it out because he's like making a
53:59
statement about the fact that like social norms don't apply
54:03
to him, and that's why we are being called idiots
54:07
for going like what what is going on? Like why
54:09
would you have this shit in like out and public
54:14
and something that you're proud of. And it's like they
54:16
really billionaires, you know, they are the law like legally
54:21
and socially and all of the other ways. Like whatever
54:24
they do is fine because no one can touch them.
54:28
And I think that, Yeah, it's just like when you're
54:29
talking about people who are trying to accumulate power, like
54:31
they have more in common with each other than like
54:34
they do with any of us or anybody else who's
54:36
like part of who might otherwise be like part of
54:39
your like socioeconomic or racial or ethnic group right where
54:43
it's like I don't see race, I just see sadistic plutocrats. Right,
54:47
that's it. That's all we are. We've distilled it all
54:50
down to our one common thing and that's that. Yeah.
54:54
And they have what they drive and work in one
54:58
of the biggest into trees in the United States that
55:02
is invisible to everybody except them and the people who
55:05
work for them, which is like the protection of private wealth. Yeah,
55:09
like just finding different ways to invest their billions and
55:12
billions and billions of Jack, No, unburdening them billions of
55:18
inherited Well, I didn't even want this shit, jack. That's
55:24
how this writer uses his imagination, is sitting around thinking
55:28
about what he would do to unburden himself. Did he
55:32
see see Harlan Crowe on this like when it got
55:35
published and he's like, you see that as the next
55:37
part you're back? Yeah, exactly, I got you, fam, I
55:40
got you. Could you lift the restraining order? Now that
55:44
I've written this, I promise I'll stop looking through the gates.
55:47
I want those canapes. I'm sorry. Cannapais, cannapaise, I'm sorry.
55:51
I'm I'm working on that. I want to be like you,
55:53
a cultured person. Oh my gosh. This also for me
55:57
really goes back to all the day that shows like
56:00
more money you have, the less empathy you have. Yeah,
56:02
Like they're so disconnected from reality and like other people
56:06
being people. And I mean, I assume I don't think
56:09
that like Clarence Thomas is rich rich, like this Harlan
56:13
Crowe asshole, but the power thing still fucks with your
56:18
head and like folks, with your ability to empathize. Yeah,
56:22
and I think that like both of them are just
56:23
like very clear examples of yeah, what the data is
56:28
showing us, right, and then not a billionaire his real
56:31
name is Clarence's right, Clancy Clancy can't be a billionaire
56:37
or come on now, But yeah, it is just like,
56:39
you know, there's a point where you just sort of
56:41
crossed the rubicon of reality and you're like, sorry, folks,
56:44
I'm over here now, and actually all you people are
56:47
actually haters and I'm going to legislate you the fuck off.
56:50
The planet's kind of where we're at now. And guess what,
56:53
all my homies are rich and we can manipulate many
56:58
things with this money. But yeah, it's easier to just
57:00
be like just the whole like, what was it, what's
57:03
the title of it. It's like he's collecting a Nazi.
57:07
Does not make him a Nazi or whatever? The fuck
57:10
Clarence Thomas's billionaire friend is no Nazi. M you're carrying
57:15
water for a dude who doesn't know your name. Also,
57:18
by the way, like yeah, pretty weird. You're simping for
57:21
a billionaire who didn't even want you at his party. Hey, Harlan,
57:30
Oh god, it's that insufferable Graham again. What is he doing?
57:34
I don't know, but he has silver paint all over
57:36
his mouth and he keeps reading out of a paper bag.
57:41
By the way, his big article on Richard Spencer. Richard
57:45
Spencer is a troll and an icon for white supremacists.
57:48
He was also my high school classmate. Is the subhead
57:50
of the titles The New York Times as a person.
57:53
The title is his comp that's the title of no no,
58:00
oh my yeah. And it has like it has a
58:05
black and white photograph of Richard Spencer. That's like kind
58:08
of I don't know, it's very humanizing, it's interesting. Good
58:13
for them, good for them? Yeah, I mean, I guess
58:16
I'm for the people that are aspiring millionaires and billionaires.
58:19
I read the Atlantic. I'm sure this is a nice
58:21
salve for them. Yeah, but I can buy all the
58:24
Nazi should I want. Yeah, I'm just trying to going
58:27
to tell me that the Atlantic is gonna tell everybody
58:30
else that they're fucking morons if they judge me for
58:32
it exactly. Oh really, Oh I'm a Nazi. Oh have
58:37
you read a little piece by Graham Wood in the
58:39
Atlantic that would say otherwise? And it's gonna be like,
58:41
what the fuck are you talking about? Huh? Just read it. Oh,
58:46
my friends know I'm not a Nazi. I'm just in
58:49
the Nazi stuff, like in a really really normal way. Yeah,
58:54
but it is really like unless there's forcible legislation to
58:58
reign billionaires in, there has been in the past and
59:02
stopped being during our lifetime, like for basically the past
59:06
like thirty years. Right. They like because to your point,
59:11
Tory like that that study of billionaires of that's like
59:16
the richer you are, the less empathy you have. That's
59:19
not necessarily because like money makes you less empathetic. It's
59:24
that people without empathy are better at accumulating money. The
59:30
amount of wealth required and like the amount of exploitation
59:34
required to do that. Like, yeah, those specific people, it's
59:37
probably like but two things feeding Like I'm sure the
59:41
money doesn't help once you're already somebody who has been
59:45
predatory enough to accumulate that much wealth. But what we
59:48
are just feeding them into the most influential positions in
59:52
our civilization and like that it's just going to keep
59:55
getting worse until something is done about it to bring
1:00:00
them in and culture at a cultural level, people start
1:00:03
just automatically discounting everything that comes out of their mouths
1:00:09
and everything that comes out of the mouths of people
1:00:10
who are scenting for them. Just call them sadistic plutocrats.
1:00:14
Let's not call them billionaires. We don't need we don't
1:00:16
have to sign like, well how much wealth you're just
1:00:19
you're a sadistic plutocrat. And I'm sure another thing that
1:00:22
prevents them from like being like am I the baddie
1:00:25
is like our culture already deifies these people in the
1:00:28
form of the job creator, you know what I mean?
1:00:31
And like, so for them, they're like, actually, I'm God,
1:00:34
so I'm actually creating jobs. I'm not exploiting labor. I'm
1:00:38
creating jobs, and I and I put my head, I
1:00:41
rest my head at night on my third Reich sheets
1:00:44
and I read a sleep really wonderfully because I know
1:00:47
I've created jobs. I'm not I'm not exploiting labor. Okay,
1:00:51
the needlework, the thread count like it really can't be.
1:00:54
I'm sorry. I hate to keep harping on this, but
1:00:56
this is almost a hundred years old, and the quality
1:01:00
is better than anything that you fire right now. I'm
1:01:03
just saying they don't make stuff like they used to. Okay,
1:01:05
you say you hate to keep harping on it, but
1:01:07
it's all you've talked about since we got here. Harbor,
1:01:11
just saying this ship is durable, Okay, sucking the fucking
1:01:15
ninety year old hat man. Look at it, looks like
1:01:17
looks brand new, looks brand new. The fuer Ward Tori good,
1:01:23
I'm just laughing at the fuer Ward Warren fer worn.
1:01:32
These are my air fuer ones that I got sneakers.
1:01:37
These aren't even around then. Yeah, I had Phil Knight
1:01:39
makeup hair custom Oh no, oh no, Well, Tor, is
1:01:44
such a pleasure having you? Where can people find you?
1:01:47
Follow you all that good stuff? I am still on
1:01:49
the sinking boat. That is Twitter at Tory Glass and
1:01:53
at White Homework, and I am on Instagram at White
1:01:57
Homework talking a lot about, like I said, poverty and
1:02:01
the impacts that that has on people's nervous systems, among
1:02:03
you know, all the other anti racist, social justicey things
1:02:07
that I am that I talk about just generally. And
1:02:12
my website is prey last dot com. So yeah, hit
1:02:15
me up. What's hang out? Is there a work immediate
1:02:18
that you've been enjoying I have. I don't know how
1:02:22
to pronounce the name of this person. So this movie
1:02:25
that's coming out, what is it? Chevalier? Am I doing that? Right?
1:02:29
I don't know about this black kid who's like a
1:02:32
French violinist. It's based on a true story. Sorry if
1:02:36
I butcher that I don't speak French. And so anyway,
1:02:39
there's all these racists who are crying and like in
1:02:41
their fields because they're like, how are you making a
1:02:42
story about a black kid who lives in Paris and
1:02:44
like the seventeen hundreds? This is so offensive to me.
1:02:46
This must be fiction. And anyway, somebody were someone who
1:02:50
replied to the to the trailer of the film, and
1:02:53
it was like, remember when the anti woke red pill
1:02:56
crowd said, why don't you just make stories about black
1:02:58
people instead of making white characters black and like crying about.
1:03:01
He's like, that's not what they wanted either. It's almost
1:03:04
as if they don't care about history. One could even
1:03:06
think they're just racist. No way. I was like, yes, chance,
1:03:12
they're all the like, they're just all in their feels
1:03:14
about like a real person and a real thing that
1:03:16
actually happened. And uh, I was like, but you don't
1:03:20
like black elves, but you also don't like black people
1:03:22
existing in history. Like, just just admit you don't like
1:03:25
black people. This is not that difficult. I don't want
1:03:28
to see them, and I don't want I certainly don't
1:03:30
want to hear them laughing in a restaurant. I hate that.
1:03:33
I hate on a train. Oh my god, what are
1:03:37
they like? What's so funny? Excuse me? Oh my gosh,
1:03:41
they're running around the restaurant. They're running around. Yeah. My
1:03:45
reply to the video or the trailer was, oh, this
1:03:47
looks fascinating. Lest to Alessandro do Medici next, because I
1:03:50
don't think most people know that, like the Duke of
1:03:52
fucking Florence was a black man. Wow, So I was
1:03:56
just trolling. I was like, yeah, let's see this guy next. Absolutely, Miles,
1:04:00
where can people find you? What's the tweet or workup
1:04:02
media you've been enjoying. You can find me on Twitter
1:04:05
and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also find Jack and
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I on the latest episode of Moss Jack on mat
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1:04:20
Platt at Timothy Platt tweeted, Count Dracula um one, I
1:04:25
think bad. Yeah, yes, that's what I'm I'm back for
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I'm immediately they're still They're still there, They're still there.
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I'm still still here for him. Molly Mary O'Brien tweeted,
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1:04:49
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we think people? Oh? Man, I was so this this
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U E. S S. And I used to download all
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music and outside the fuck, you know, like you always
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kind of wonder what happened those artists. He just started
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but I want to just play one of the tracks
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years ago. It's a remix of the track Sun by Caribou,
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but it's the US remix h U E. S S.
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So it's on SoundCloud. But it's just like, I don't know,
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it just feels it's it's very nostalgic for me when
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I was really into like my beat Maker era, So
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