There’s more news and less comprehension today than any historical period that didn’t involve literal witch trials, and trying to stay on top of it all can feel like playing a game of telephone with 30 people, except everyone’s speaking at the same time and like a third of them are openly racist for some reason. From Cracked co-founder Jack O’Brien, THE DAILY ZEITGEIST is stepping into that fray with some of the funniest and smartest comedic and journalistic minds around. Jack and co-host Miles Gray spend up to an hour every weekday sorting through the events and stories driving the headlines, to help you find the signal in the noise, with a few laughs thrown in for free.
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episode 1: Man At The GarTrend 2/10: Super Bowl, Kendrick Lamar, Super Bowl Ads, ICE Raids
In this edition of Man At The GarTrend, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, the Super Bowl, Kendrick's halftime performance, the weird and terrible ads, an ICE raid update and much more!
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00:02
Speaker 1
So that that Kendrick performance is pretty mid.
00:06
Speaker 2
Right, Guys, that guy stinks.
00:09
Speaker 3
I can't understand the word he says.
00:12
Speaker 4
It was pretty mid.
00:14
Speaker 2
I read like some reviews that said the audio was
00:16
fucked up at the beginning, but I didn't even I
00:18
didn't know that. I didn't catch that seemed fun to
00:21
me throughout. He didn't give a fuck at all. No,
00:25
he was not trying to like him for the uh
00:28
you know, the people who aren't familiar.
00:30
Speaker 3
He was.
00:30
Speaker 2
No, that was the thing.
00:31
Speaker 1
It's like, I don't know, Like I guess if you're
00:34
not paying attention and your expectations are such that you
00:38
want just that hits from his catalog, I can see
00:42
how people are disappointed. But like he's this is PG
00:46
Lang Kendrick, and yeah, he doesn't give.
00:50
Speaker 2
A shit at all. No, he does not know. I
00:54
was at first when I like watching it as like
00:57
this is a super Bowl halftime show, like I want
01:00
everybody to like my guy Kendrick. I was a little
01:03
bit like, ah, fuck, like I wish he had played
01:06
more of the hits, But then like just encountering it
01:09
as a piece of art, I was like, oh, this.
01:12
Speaker 1
With with the Sam Jackson interstitials that sort of put
01:16
everything in context. It was like just the meta narrative
01:21
of him being there talking about the show, about the
01:26
show songs, yeah exactly.
01:28
Speaker 3
That just that.
01:29
Speaker 1
Sold it for me, where I'm like, oh, really, this
01:32
guy had an idea and he fucking executes.
01:35
Speaker 3
But yeah, this was definitely the most artistic halftime show
01:39
I've seen.
01:40
Speaker 2
I was gonna say it's up there with like the
01:42
Gloria Stefan, Uh.
01:45
Speaker 3
Katy Perry when she came out.
01:46
Speaker 2
Katy Perry, Gloria Stefan. I do really like the Katie
01:51
Perry one.
01:51
Speaker 3
You know that, it was great to me. I still
01:55
I still think that's one of the top ones on
01:57
the Like American maximalism. That was the most super Bowl halftime.
02:02
Speaker 2
Show knows the assignment and like just fully embraces it
02:07
like a fucking a straight a student raising their hand
02:10
at the front of hearing.
02:11
Speaker 1
People mentioned like yeah, just like the lack of the
02:14
maximalism and like it's like, yeah, he could have did
02:18
money trees and had like marching bands come out and stuff,
02:21
and like that would have been cool, but.
02:24
Speaker 3
No, he like this.
02:25
Speaker 2
He should have had like people in tree costumes throwing
02:29
money out, making it rain yeah, you know.
02:33
Speaker 3
Oh my favorite is left swimming Pool. Oh I was,
02:38
I was time show.
02:41
Speaker 2
Remember the guy floating face down in the left swimming.
02:46
Speaker 4
Pool that was the dancing bottle of alcohol.
02:50
Speaker 2
Yeah, like that's I watched it with somebody who's like
02:53
a like theater person, and like he was just like
02:57
getting texts from his friends about like this is it
03:00
should be like And it's like all these like obscure
03:02
theater performances I.
03:06
Speaker 1
Don't expectations seem to really rob people of the joy
03:10
of experience.
03:11
Speaker 2
It seems oh yeah.
03:12
Speaker 1
Yeah, there was nothing technically wrong with the performed. I
03:16
get why people some people are disappointed, but it was
03:18
a good performance.
03:19
Speaker 2
Is anybody saying mid, I feel like that I'm either
03:21
hearing like worst super Bowl show ever or like it's
03:25
fucking great.
03:26
Speaker 4
I'm saying it's either mid or it's great.
03:28
Speaker 3
I think it's a lot of New Kendrick fans that
03:30
thought he was going to behead Drake in effigy or something. Yeah,
03:34
like that this was going to be like the last
03:38
stop of the Kick the Dead Body of Drake, for
03:41
which it was.
03:42
Speaker 2
I mean, it was.
03:48
Speaker 3
Not even one of the good I know, but I'm
03:49
saying but you know, but you know, motherfuckers are so
03:51
literal like they wanted to see, like they want to
03:55
like probably some kind of physical depiction of Drake being destroyed,
03:59
some actual physit tangible red, like what's like.
04:03
Speaker 4
This exploding a giant effigy.
04:05
Speaker 3
Get in your art bag a little bit, folks.
04:08
Speaker 2
I like the people who hadn't really been following, they
04:11
were just like from afar. They knew there was a
04:13
story about a rap beef and they're like, I think
04:15
him and Kendrick are going to make friends in the
04:17
halftime show.
04:18
Speaker 1
Yeah, I mean, remember I texted you when the battle started.
04:22
I was like, what if they come out with like
04:24
a joint track after after their volleys and it's all
04:28
just like it's like a Marvel movie.
04:30
Speaker 2
Once you accuse someone of being a pedophile, it's hard
04:32
to go back. You can't really pull that one.
04:35
Speaker 4
This is before I think, this is before Euphoria came.
04:38
Speaker 2
Actually the homie, he's actually kind of the homie.
04:42
Speaker 1
This is justloy for like a joint album.
04:45
Speaker 3
Nope, best of both worlds.
04:48
Speaker 2
It was h Yeah, that was fun though just truly
04:52
came with like an artistic vision in mine.
04:54
Speaker 1
It was.
04:56
Speaker 2
It was just like, yeah, exactly.
04:58
Speaker 3
The second I saw the stage the up he is like,
05:02
this is PlayStation roomote or squid game and the performing
05:06
game ship performing in a giant X while playing Peekaboo.
05:11
Speaker 1
So because that song is rumored to be uh it
05:16
has something to do with X and and Drake having
05:19
something to do with his death.
05:21
Speaker 2
That's the rumor.
05:24
Speaker 4
Him doing that in the Big Cakes is kind of wild.
05:27
Speaker 2
Triple X tentassium, Yeah is Pekaboo? Like I just thought
05:31
that was like a weird track that we were obsessed with.
05:33
I didn't know was is that like one of the
05:34
hits from the album? Like he just doesn't give a Yeah, yeah,
05:39
that was my number one with a bullet. I was like,
05:42
I was like joking.
05:43
Speaker 1
I was like, I hope you expecting him to play Pikabood.
05:48
Speaker 3
I went to I went to her majesty. I said, oh,
05:55
he's like, guess what we're about to do. And then
05:57
in this living I'm like, what they talk about they
05:58
talking about? Know what they talk about? The tab Yeah? Yeah,
06:02
what they talked about they talk about? Hello the Internet and.
06:11
Speaker 5
Welcome to this special week trend edition of.
06:15
Speaker 3
Dirnally zite Geististist Bite People.
06:20
Speaker 2
It's our production of by Heart Radio. This is the
06:22
episode where we tell you what was trying to go
06:24
over the weekend. It is the Monday after Super Bowl Sunday,
06:27
super Bowl Monday, super Bowl Monday. Man, oh, this should
06:31
be goddamn. Has anyone trademark that ship super Bowl Monday?
06:35
Super Bowl Productive Day? Oh man, I can't believe they
06:39
don't don't give us off on this day.
06:42
Speaker 3
They should? They should.
06:43
Speaker 2
I do, actually think they should. I'll talk about that.
06:47
Speaker 3
Oh.
06:49
Speaker 2
Time more than super hot later. Okay, Spicy, how are
06:54
you doing, Miles?
06:55
Speaker 1
Ummm?
06:57
Speaker 3
This is going to be my answer for the foreseeable
06:59
future where I go all things considered.
07:04
Speaker 2
Atc not good, Yeah, all things considered.
07:14
Speaker 3
Yeah yeah, Yeah, I'm doing Okay, I'm doing okay. Every
07:17
day gets a little bit easier, just a little bit.
07:20
Speaker 2
Yeah.
07:20
Speaker 3
And then then you see a Kylie Minogue video and
07:23
you start crying. I saw this Kylie Minogue video for
07:28
Can't Get You, so like the guys shot, he's in dancing,
07:33
he's entering his dancing era. So I played DJ and
07:37
stuff and I'm like, oh, let me see what the
07:39
fuck I can get going, dude, daft punk around the world.
07:42
That music video fucking melted him. He's like, oh shit,
07:46
like the way he was getting yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
07:50
yeah yeah. I was like okay, I'm like I'm locked in.
07:53
I know. Then I'm like, okay, Michelle Gondry, I think
07:56
we got something. Then I said the other one with
08:01
Kylie Minogue, come into my world, come come come in
08:06
to me. Okay. He was fucking with that one a
08:09
little confused. Then I played Can't Get You out of
08:12
My Head when there's just something about the like the
08:16
sort of minor key tonality of Can't Get You out
08:20
of even though it's like such a straightforward pop song,
08:22
which is like yeah oh. I was like, oh shit,
08:27
it hit my fucking spine. I had tears running down
08:30
my face. It was beautiful, damn and shout out to everybody.
08:33
I did post that on my Instagram stories. A few
08:35
people were like you okay, yes, yes, yes, these are
08:38
beautiful tears. These are beautiful tears.
08:42
Speaker 2
All right, Well, this is the episode where we get
08:43
to know you a little bit better by letting you
08:45
know what we think is underrated, what we think is overrated.
08:49
You want to kick us off with something you think
08:51
is underrated?
08:52
Speaker 3
Underrated? My god, I say, let's see what did I
08:57
say here? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, crated how well the
09:01
gradual defunding of our educational system has gone for the
09:04
conservative takeover, really really really important piece. Remember that documentary
09:10
Waiting for Superman in twenty ten, I remember, you know,
09:14
the one about how we are taking away quality education
09:17
for countless kids and it's becoming harder and harder for
09:20
parents to like support their kids in pursuit of a
09:23
better education.
09:25
Speaker 2
Just from just.
09:25
Speaker 3
The full court press, socioeconomics, how we're not paying teachers enough.
09:29
All of that come together to have a less educated populace.
09:33
Not a perfect documentary because it leaves out a lot
09:35
of other factors and its telling of what's wrong with that,
09:38
But anyway, all that to say is I remember watching
09:40
that in twenty ten, and like, as a young person
09:43
working in politics at the time, I'm like, I wonder
09:45
when this wave is going to hit our shores and
09:48
cut to now, Like, as I look at the election
09:51
and the reactions from people to the absolute fuck shit
09:55
going down in terms of dismantling agencies, it's clear that
09:59
all of the this is much easier when people have
10:02
no idea how fucking how the government works, how.
10:06
Speaker 2
Civics, how any of it happens.
10:08
Speaker 3
How anything is structured. Like I think for people of
10:11
a certain age, you're like, what the heck is going on?
10:14
You know you can't do that. You need that to
10:18
pay people who need their Social Security or Medica whatever.
10:21
And then there are other people who are like, I
10:22
never heard of it, And because I never heard of it,
10:25
it's probably not going to affect me. And I think
10:28
that's a really underrated part of like how like sort
10:31
of not totally frictionless this is going. But when you
10:34
look at Trump's approval numbers and things like that, a
10:38
lot of it does have to do with just our
10:40
general ignorance around civics and the basic structures of government,
10:44
Like in the same way like the Google questions that
10:47
were being asked and the lead up to the election,
10:49
where people like, is Joe Byron Joe Joe president president?
10:53
Why not I vote for Joe Byron? It's a lot
10:56
and I get it, like we were spread thin because
10:59
we're all toiling to survive, and on top of that,
11:02
we're not we're not learning the things that we used to.
11:06
But I gotta say that's that's a huge piece of
11:09
I think why we're we're sort of in the place
11:12
where we are when we stop investing in the our
11:17
ability of.
11:18
Speaker 2
First feeling to the Democratic Party is also like not
11:21
doing a good job communicating around this, Like no, no,
11:25
I feel like they're communicating the us AID thing a
11:28
little bit, like that's where their focus is. But like
11:30
things that tend to matter more to people in the
11:35
United States, like education and right, you know, like the
11:40
benefits that you get right, Like, they're not really doing
11:44
a good job making that makes sense. It's like a
11:47
lot of yeah, hidden behind complexity.
11:50
Speaker 3
I think the other thing too, is you know, for
11:52
for people who still think the Democrats are going to
11:55
do like again waiting for Superman, he's not coming, and.
11:58
Speaker 2
He's not coming.
12:00
Speaker 3
It's the thing.
12:00
Speaker 2
It ain't them, It's not the current version of the Democrats.
12:04
Speaker 3
No, they have been the constant gardeners of maintaining the
12:07
status quo. That to think that they can suddenly ideologically
12:12
change gears so dramatically to get into like we're now
12:16
fighting mode. Yeah, it's just it's a bridge too far.
12:20
There are plenty of people within the party who are
12:22
showing that sort of fight. But then like you see
12:25
Chuck Schumer and he's like leading chance of like we're
12:27
gonna win. I'm like, what catch you talk whin?
12:31
Speaker 2
What win? What? Yeah? Exactly, y'all just lost because you're
12:37
bad at this.
12:38
Speaker 3
Yeah is the plan you're laying out, will vote for
12:40
us in the midterms after we just let this runaway
12:43
train go for fucking two years straight before something like.
12:47
Speaker 2
At a time when there's a crisis, you're standing there
12:50
addressing a crisis like the dismantling of the government by
12:54
the other party. Rather than just saying this is how
12:57
it's gonna impact you, they like try to like do
13:00
a pep rally thing like we're gonna win, which was confusing. Yeah,
13:05
it's it's not great. I was also like when they
13:08
showed Trump during the national anthem of the Super Bowl
13:12
and like there was a pop, like people were like ah.
13:15
I was like, wait, how popular is this motherfucker? And
13:18
he is more popular now than he ever was during
13:21
his first administration, which isn't like that popular.
13:24
Speaker 3
He's still still or actually he's above fifty percent. I
13:28
think he's like fifty one maybe yeah, but he yeah,
13:34
is more like he's getting more popular as this shit
13:38
is happening because he's like it feels like he's running
13:40
unopposed in certain ways, or he's like governing unopposed. Well,
13:44
that's the optics. I think That's another thing I've talked
13:46
about too with people like this past week, just when
13:50
everyone's just kind of dealing with all their anxiety and like, well,
13:52
he's doing Like one thing that Trump is is he
13:55
pretends like he's not the real deal. Ever. He is
13:58
an aspiring fashion he's not a polished fascist. And you know,
14:04
like if he had, if he was able to actually
14:07
corral Congress and do all these things through acts of Congress,
14:10
I'd be like, shit, okay, But he has to do
14:15
everything through executive order to sort of project this power.
14:18
That doesn't make him any less dangerous. So I don't
14:20
say that to like like be complacent. It just means
14:23
there's a little more time to try and organize to
14:26
properly resist all of this. But as it stands, like
14:29
he's doing a lot to project that power, to give
14:32
this sort of impression that it's like, dude, you can't
14:35
do shit about anything, and now just lay down and
14:38
let it happen.
14:39
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's there. They're trying to send that
14:43
message and I feel like I don't know, there's some
14:47
aspect of how the rest of it's being communicated, like
14:50
the the response the focus is like too technocratic or something,
14:55
and so it just feels like it's not picking up,
14:59
you know, like aren't getting it. It's not it's not
15:02
coming through. Yeah, all my underrated is consuming classic art
15:10
like old things. I saw a Chekhov play over the weekend.
15:16
Speaker 3
Consuming classic art is quite underrated, hmmm, I.
15:20
Speaker 2
Think with a nice red Yeah. No, it's it's just
15:24
like not the sort of ship that I'm usually like.
15:26
I'm more of a pop timate like I like movies,
15:31
you know, like that's kind of my go to thing.
15:34
But we had a friend who was in a play
15:37
that we went and saw and you know, it was
15:39
a like small theater a couple dozen people and maybe
15:44
maybe like yeah, like three dozen people's full house, like
15:47
all those tickets were sold, but very small theater. Like
15:50
you were like sitting on the stage basically.
15:53
Speaker 3
Like a little black box theater kind of thing.
15:55
Speaker 2
Yeah, and it held your attention, like the the like
15:58
really moved. But the ship there talking about it's like
16:00
written in the eighteen hundreds and it's like kids being
16:05
fame obsessed and like how fame ruins people, and like
16:10
just feels very much like, oh, this doesn't feel like
16:13
I just assumed everybody in Russia in the eighteen hundreds
16:16
was just talking about plowing wheat farms, and you know,
16:21
like I didn't think there's like a universality and like
16:25
a timelessness to a lot of this shit that we're
16:29
dealing with. You know, back back then they were like, Oh,
16:32
this new fed that's ruining kids chess right right, making
16:37
them lazy and distractable. But yeah, I don't know, there's
16:43
something about the experience of like communing with something that's
16:47
old and being like, ah, there's been shitty people like
16:52
that for decades, and you know, like they're one of
16:56
the characters is just a like fame ruin and actress
17:01
and like her famous like writer husband, and like they're
17:05
just like such identifiable pieces of shit that I feel
17:11
like a lot of people have probably encountered in the
17:15
modern world.
17:16
Speaker 3
Yeah, the world being terrible is nothing new at least
17:18
that's you know, what you learn.
17:20
Speaker 2
From all that, and like the specific ways that it's terrible,
17:24
even though it feels like things are kind of escalating
17:27
out of control with new technology. And that's probably true
17:31
in some ways. In other ways, it's like a lot
17:33
of working with the same problems and uh, you know,
17:39
getting getting similar results. Myles, what is something that you
17:44
think is overrated? Oh?
17:47
Speaker 3
Our need to offer people silver linings constantly, you know,
17:53
on the wet hand, when we're experiencing crisis, like I
17:58
think we've all done this right, Like someone is experiencing
18:02
some kind of tragic event, and we try to wrap
18:05
up a conversation with like, you know, well, at least
18:08
dot dot dot dot dot. You know, at least at
18:11
least shit, at least you have your passport.
18:14
Speaker 2
It's my least my one go to other than comparing
18:17
it to something that's happened to myself. But Miles, my
18:21
house hasn't burned down. So what am I supposed to
18:23
say to you?
18:23
Speaker 3
What do I say? I don't know how to say
18:26
anything to this. No, anything else is uncomfortable. I get it, right,
18:30
Like we don't want to leave people on a bad
18:32
note quote unquote so to speak. But as someone that
18:34
has been on the receiving end of countless, you know, like, well,
18:38
at least you dot dot dot. But I just want
18:42
to say that sometimes you just want to be like, Na,
18:45
this is pretty fucked up.
18:46
Speaker 6
Huh, and accept that you know what I mean to
18:51
not And I don't mean to say that it's a
18:54
violence to try and offer someone a silver lining silver
18:56
linings amidst all of this, But I think it's important
19:00
to really acknowledge what the experience is too and to
19:04
process that properly.
19:05
Speaker 3
It doesn't mean I have zero perspective, like I'm saying
19:07
like I don't like obviously, I'm speaking very specifically about
19:10
what's happened to me in my in our home burning death.
19:13
Excuse me, my voice cracked out because I was getting
19:16
the clemped, I was out of breath, and I'm a man,
19:19
damn it. I will not be caught on a microphone
19:22
again only to k show video. Only to Kylie Minogue's videos.
19:27
That's the only time I show announce of emotion. But
19:30
like sometimes you again, you have to honor where you're
19:33
at with a grieving and mourning process, and there's a
19:36
lot of labor involved in sort of making yourself be
19:40
okay to comfort another person who can't fathom your pain,
19:45
and that gets a little bit exhausting. I think. I
19:49
think because a part of that is just sort of culturally,
19:51
especially in America, we just it's all about resisting death.
19:56
It's all about not accepting the inevitable. Like that is
19:59
so ingrained and it's very different to me also being Japanese,
20:03
where death is very normal. Death is accepted, it's part
20:07
of our cycle, it's inevitable, and thus it's something you
20:11
do not fear. I mean, obviously no one is like
20:14
and I want to die, but it's not sort of
20:17
looked at with the same horror at times as I
20:19
as I noticed like in America, and I think also too,
20:23
like if we don't allow ourselves to be in pain,
20:26
it's also hard to adequately like acknowledge the suffering of
20:30
others people when we don't acknowledge our own pain. Broad Yeah,
20:33
so I try to. I think just's it's really important
20:36
to like really honor where you're at emotionally, because also,
20:42
like when I've had friends be like hey, like like
20:45
you're doing all right though, and I'm like, nah, not really,
20:48
Oh no, it's still very oriented. Yeah, And I'm like,
20:53
and I'm not asking you to say something to make
20:56
me feel better, Like I'm not saying that, I'm just
20:58
saying things are very difficult. I'm dealing with them. I
21:02
have a lot of support systems in place, but it's
21:06
like so many times I'm like trying to convince myself
21:09
that I'm okay or like I'm over it, yeah, without
21:12
and I think that's a lot harder than just accepting
21:15
allowing myself to be like, no, man, like this is
21:17
this is very difficult and you have to just take
21:20
it step by step rather than trying to condense this
21:22
process into like a three day thing. And but yeah,
21:25
but I'm on the other side of it, and I'll good,
21:26
we're back, We're back, We're back to stay up all right,
21:28
here we go. Yeah, it makes me feel like that.
21:31
It's just easier in a weird way. It's easier to
21:34
live like that than to try and sort of convince
21:39
myself like maybe I'm not as affected by everything that's
21:41
going on and like the grieving the loss of my
21:44
community and things like that. Yeah. So anyway, all that
21:47
to say is I just think it's it's important to
21:50
be very honest with ourselves about what we're experiencing. And
21:53
you know, I think offering people a bit of optimism
21:56
is great. I totally think it's great, and I think
21:58
it's honorable and I think it's also just totally fine
22:01
to like just be there with somebody when they're not
22:04
doing okay, and you can you find other ways to
22:06
to sort of be with them as they get through something.
22:09
Speaker 2
So yeah, yeah, just sit with them. Yeah, you don't
22:13
have to you don't have to solve it. You don't
22:15
have to make them feel better in the moment, like
22:18
just being there and accepting that they don't feel great
22:21
right now. Yeah, and just yeah, being being with them,
22:25
being there for that.
22:26
Speaker 3
Men have to solve ship all the time, like so
22:30
many like so of my homies. You know. Look, I
22:33
love y'all a lot of the times too. It's much
22:36
easier like, well, you know, we're gonna get this done. Like, hey,
22:39
you know what, bro, what if we were just hurting
22:41
for a little bit, you know what I mean? Like,
22:44
let's that's part of the human experience. This is all
22:46
part of being alive. This is all part of how
22:48
we become stronger and we evolve. So let's embrace that
22:52
part of it too. Hey, look on the bright side
22:54
of things though, Hey, look at the right side of
22:55
things though.
22:56
Speaker 2
Hot the eagles, I don't think it's like you know,
23:00
brand the editor was saying, like America's unrelenting fake optimism
23:04
is tiring. Like I think it's like like you said,
23:07
it's like easier to do that, you know, I don't
23:10
even know that like people realize they're doing that. I
23:13
think it's just a strategy.
23:17
Speaker 3
Because you don't want to you don't want to leave
23:19
yourself like on a note in your consciousness to be like,
23:22
oh man, yeah, and then stay there, you know, because
23:26
I think the other part of it, too, is to
23:28
say you go, oh man, this is terrible, and the
23:30
next thing you have to tell yourself is and that's okay,
23:33
and that's normal, sit with it. Yeah. I think the
23:36
reason we try and sort of like be optimistic and
23:39
use optimism to get out of it is to just
23:41
sort of not let it be the last thing that
23:44
we're thinking, which is, ah, this is terrible, rather than
23:47
and the optimism comes from saying and that's okay, and
23:51
I can accept that.
23:53
Speaker 2
My overrated is looking on the bright side of things. Miles,
23:58
you've been too down in the helps buddies. Oh boy,
24:01
we got a cynic lot now. I was gonna say overrated,
24:04
like just all these little quasi holidays. American culture has
24:08
this time of year, like mainstream American culture, like lots
24:12
of other you know, cultures, have big holidays from January
24:17
to like the end of March, like which I think
24:21
is one of the more depressing times of the year.
24:25
So like cultures like so you have like Ramadan, Lunar,
24:28
New Year, no Russ, you know, and then mainstream American
24:33
culture like tries to like event invent like you know,
24:36
the super Bowl, I think is one of our like
24:38
little quasi holidays we give ourselves the Oscars, Saint Patrick's Day,
24:43
Valentine's Day, or like these little kind of fake holidays,
24:48
And I feel, I don't know, like I don't I
24:50
don't know how you invent a holiday out of whole cloth,
24:54
but I do feel like people are probably in need
24:57
of something more spiritually like culturally significant. Then the super Bowl.
25:03
I feel like the super Bowl always leaves me feeling
25:05
a little depressed. Like it's like a major event that's like,
25:10
I don't know, designed by and for people who listen
25:14
to like morning Zoo radio, you know, and there like
25:17
it just feels like it has that energy like you're
25:20
like listening to an FM radio station I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
25:24
then tax Day is like the photographic negative of a holiday,
25:29
so that's in there as well.
25:31
Speaker 3
All those things like Valentine's Day, Saint Patti's Day, Briani
25:35
Pasinko de Mile, there's like the way we celebrate these,
25:38
they're all just so consumption based. Yeah yeah, how much
25:42
fucking beer are you gonna how many wings are you
25:44
gonna eat on Super Bowl Sunday? How much what gifts
25:47
are you gonna buy for your significant other on Valentine's Day?
25:50
How green is your shit gonna turn on March eighteenth?
25:54
From how much green crap you ate on Saint Patrick's Day?
25:57
Like yeah, Like to that point, there aren't many that
25:59
are truly about I mean again, that's just because our
26:02
culture is so devoid of that kind of stuff just
26:04
generally speaking, like it's we're not very spiritual. We're not
26:08
spiritual really at all, and our spiritualism is tied to
26:11
these like very similar centric things.
26:14
Speaker 2
So yeah, yeah, I don't know. Maybe I'm just saying
26:18
people who are like the Monday after Super Bowl should
26:21
be a holiday are correct, even though super Bowl Monday
26:25
a dead take super Bowl Monday, give the people some fun.
26:29
Speaker 3
Thing that I think is you create your own holidays, right.
26:32
Like so my father in law his friends have had
26:35
this thing they've done since like the sixties where it's
26:38
called Dentist Day and all their friends have like a
26:42
dent tell their work, they have a dentist appointment, but
26:45
they all have a party. They all just get together
26:47
and hang out, like in the middle of the week,
26:50
like once a year. They're all like, all right, because
26:52
no one works at the same place. They're like, hey,
26:54
we all got that dent It's it's the dentist party
26:57
on this day, and we just use that to get
27:00
together and kind of have fun and be feel kind
27:03
of cheeky because we talked about you know, we fake
27:05
the we fake the dent disappointment. But those I feel
27:08
like that kind of stuff is like you kind of
27:09
just got to be kind of more, just figure out
27:12
something that works for you too, and then you can
27:14
those things morph into a tradition that you know, allows
27:17
everyone to kind of get together not necessarily have to
27:19
be like how many how many pounds of wings are
27:22
you going to bring, just to be like yeah, then
27:24
we all just get together. We all went to the park,
27:25
or we all just hung out somewhere or whatever it is.
27:28
Speaker 2
But I'm reading this book What the Wild Edge of Sorrow.
27:30
That's about like partially about like our cultural and ability
27:34
to deal with sorrow and like difficult feelings. And but
27:39
the way that they do it is like by creating
27:42
like rituals around that like that don't already exist for people.
27:48
So maybe, yeah, like I like the idea of inventing
27:52
some sort of holiday, whether it be Dentists Day or
27:55
some sort of like you know holiday, if you don't
27:58
already have it through like a lot of religions already
28:01
have have this, But if you if you don't already
28:04
have that built in, build yourself a little a little holiday,
28:08
especially at this time of year, so you don't so
28:10
you're not overly relying on the fucking super Bowl.
28:13
Speaker 3
Yeah, have a dentist Day.
28:17
Speaker 2
All right, Let's take a quick break and we'll come back.
28:19
We'll talk a little bit more about the super Bowl
28:21
and other ship. We'll be right back and we're back,
28:35
And any straight did you watch the super Bowl other
28:39
than the Kendrick Show?
28:40
Speaker 3
Uh No, Okay, I mean yeah, I'd be lying if
28:44
I said it was on. And I was mostly like
28:48
commiserating with friends and stuff, because I don't I could
28:52
care less about the teams involved in the Super Bowl.
28:56
Speaker 2
I could care I got the chief struggling.
28:59
Speaker 3
I actually know, you know what, I do love the
29:01
chief struggling, especially with like that asshole Kicker and you know,
29:05
Patrick Mahomes and just like that whole like maga shit.
29:08
I'm like, yeah, yeah, go ahead, go hold that. Although
29:10
I'm I'm under no illusion that their conservatives all over
29:14
the NFL, but I think also the Blake Wexler of
29:18
it also shout out my boy Chris, very loyal philid
29:21
Philadelphia Eagles fans, so you know, for that from that respect,
29:26
I was like, I was like, I wanted.
29:27
Speaker 2
To see the Eagles win, so yeah, and I think
29:29
the Eagles fan base has one good politics, so I
29:33
think we're a good oh.
29:34
Speaker 3
Famously famously famously famously unimpeached.
29:37
Speaker 2
Yeah. So I mean the just stray Super Bowl observations, Uh,
29:42
you know, I didn't I didn't watch the whole thing.
29:43
I missed. I guess Trump was interviewed at the beginning,
29:47
and you know, not surprisingly for someone who can't go
29:51
through an entire press conference in the wake of a
29:53
tragic plane crash without like giving his opinion on like
29:57
who's to blame with like zero facts on the ground. Unsurprisingly,
30:01
he just was like, yeah, I'm cheering for the Chiefs.
30:04
I'm here for the Chiefs because and he specifically said
30:08
because Patrick Mahomes' wife is a fan of his. Literally, like,
30:12
just the Chiefs swayed with the same tactics that every
30:16
dictator and leader in the world is.
30:18
Speaker 3
She would had a beautiful love letter. Oh okay, it's
30:23
that easy. Huh.
30:24
Speaker 2
So I wish I had seen that would have been
30:26
the most important thing for me to actually enjoy the game,
30:29
because the Chiefs did promptly take a massive shit on
30:33
the field. Uh, specifically Patrick Mahomes, who a lot of
30:36
people talk about as the best, the goat best to
30:40
ever do. It didn't look like it. Last night.
30:44
Speaker 3
I kept asking a friend. I was like, all right, so,
30:46
I mean this is a bad halftime score, right, like, and.
30:49
Speaker 2
He's like, well, you never know, twenty four to nothing.
30:52
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like this isn't great, right, But then
30:55
other people were like, no, I mean, you know, if
30:57
someone could do it, it's potentially Patrick mah Homes. But
31:00
I was like, but then, based on what I had
31:02
seen in the first half like ish, I was like.
31:04
Speaker 2
Yeah, oh it doesn't have shit.
31:07
Speaker 3
Yeah, they looked a little bit. Uh. I don't know.
31:09
I mean I guess I get. I get how complacency
31:11
kicks in when you're like about to do your third
31:13
one in a row and you're like yeah, all right Canley. Yeah.
31:16
Speaker 2
But anyway, it uh yeah, a tough night for him.
31:20
You know, Tom Brady was doing the game. You know
31:22
Tom Brady, who is the person who's like in competition
31:26
with him to be the greatest player of all time,
31:28
and uh was you know, the thing that everybody was
31:31
hoping for in order to like get a good game
31:35
was that we'd see another comeback on par with like
31:38
what Tom Brady did against the Falcons and that it
31:41
would be a good you know after they got down
31:43
by so much. But that didn't happen. There's a good
31:47
piece of like successful quarterback psychology where Tom Brady was like, yeah,
31:54
I just you know, after a game like this, you
31:56
wake up the next morning and you're like, that was
31:58
a bad dream. That is not reality. That was a
32:01
bad dream, and you're just like kind of unable to
32:04
accept it. But yeah, you kind of move on eventually,
32:08
like just just the dark, just the darkest places that
32:12
somebody like that goes to once again shout out to
32:15
the flyover of the you know, air force, military planes
32:20
once again sucked. Total shit. I don't know how this
32:24
remains a part of the Super Bowl. I mean, I
32:26
know how it remained. It's like a trying to show
32:28
off military mite, but I don't know, try a new angle. Literally, guys,
32:33
pointing the camera up and showing some planes fly by
32:36
is the equivalent of like trying to take a picture
32:39
of the moon. It looks like shit, it's not. I
32:42
guess it might be cool in person, but I just stop.
32:46
Speaker 3
Throwing the fucking military industrial complex and people's faces. Yeah,
32:50
like they're like, and there goes your healthcare folks right overhead.
32:54
All right, now, let's toss that coin. Sure and Chris
32:59
when especially when they fly like a stealth bomber, like
33:02
at the fucking Rose Bowl, I'm like two is this
33:05
fucking four?
33:06
Speaker 2
Yeah for little children? My kids were impressed, But.
33:09
Speaker 3
Oh my dude, the guys child bro he hears a
33:13
fucking plane.
33:14
Speaker 5
Yeah, but it is they're still at that stage where
33:18
they haven't you know, for the entirety of human history
33:22
up to like whenever the Red Brothers invented flight.
33:25
Speaker 2
I think it was like nineteen seventy two, but like
33:29
whenever that was, up to that point, humans were like
33:33
obsessed with fly. They were like, that's crazy, Like the
33:36
idea that you could fly like a bird is like
33:38
the craziest thing imaginable. And like children are still like
33:43
they haven't like gotten past that. They're still just like.
33:46
Speaker 3
What I know. I tell them all, get over it,
33:53
clean over it, stop acting so new.
33:56
Speaker 2
Yeah yeah, I will say, uh, worse Dad has to
34:00
go to the Snoop Dogg and Tom Brady ad where there.
34:04
Just did you see that one? You probably if you
34:06
weren't listening closely. I hate you because you're different. I
34:10
hate you because I hate you because you hate me.
34:13
Speaker 3
I'm like, bro, I'm tired of seeing Snoops old ass
34:16
up there, you know, man shucking and jiving for the
34:19
dumbest ship all the time. This was that I was
34:21
like at the end, I was like, oh, it's it's
34:23
Robert Kraft's you know, yea faux anti semitism campaign.
34:28
Speaker 2
Yes exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. This is from
34:32
Robbert Craft's, owner of the New England Patriots, who uh,
34:36
you know went when when he launched this anti hate organization,
34:42
he like went on the rounds of cable news, saying, uh,
34:45
horrible to me that a group like Hamas can be
34:48
respected and people in the United States of America can
34:50
be carrying flags or supporting them, equating Palestinian flag with
34:55
supporting Hamas. And yeah, I mean just all saw that ship.
35:00
Speaker 3
We saw how how much the media was just like, yeah,
35:04
what's your take. Okay, that'll be ours, That'll be ours too.
35:07
Speaker 2
Yeah. He claimed that a call for a ceasefire and
35:11
end of the violence were expressions of the rise in
35:13
anti Semitism. So yeah, that.
35:16
Speaker 3
Same way, same way that de id I is destroying
35:20
white people. Yes, oh you mean, okay, equity is equity.
35:24
Speaker 2
I want people to stop killing each other, and they,
35:27
of course you hate anti smit.
35:31
Speaker 3
Now that people should stop killing each other. The thing is,
35:33
I don't want like chill body to die.
35:35
Speaker 2
Specifically like that that that seems to be a real
35:38
problem in there here.
35:39
Speaker 3
Why wear this? You should wear this jersey I found
35:42
from the inaugural season of the x FL. It said
35:45
he hate me on.
35:46
Speaker 2
The back create deep cut reference. We already talked about
35:51
Kendrick a little bit up top. He brought art to
35:54
the halftime show. Yeah, mileage may vary. I think older
35:58
people were confused, and oh my god of Naga bro.
36:03
They it's so funny how they all like how how
36:08
one note the whole right wing outrage machine is because
36:12
it's like, all right, what are we saying?
36:14
Speaker 3
Because we can't just say I hate hearing black people
36:17
talk in public. You have to say something like I
36:20
don't understand what he's saying. I wish I could understand
36:23
a word of what he said, but I just don't know.
36:27
Oh it's so terrible. It's so bad.
36:29
Speaker 2
He's mumbling.
36:30
Speaker 3
Yeah, that's what most of the takes were. Then they said,
36:33
somebod who's a Satanist.
36:36
Speaker 2
He every time, you're going to be able to find
36:38
some Satanism in there for sure.
36:40
Speaker 3
Same ship too, Like they hated that Lettusy saying that,
36:43
you know, black national anthem, lift every voice and sing
36:46
at the top. You're like, an it is because yeah,
36:50
I said some weird ass about that too.
36:52
Speaker 2
What is hateable about that?
36:55
Speaker 3
Because they they're like, it's because they probably want to
36:57
acknowledge that there's any such thing as black American culture.
37:00
And it's it's part of America. So why would you
37:04
acknowledge that at the Super Bowl? Just sing the national
37:08
don't sing, lift every voice and sing. I almost said
37:11
lift every chair and swing as a result, you know,
37:14
referencing the riverboat brawl that happened two years ago. That
37:19
was a meme. And then Serena Williams c walking, I
37:21
love you.
37:22
Speaker 2
Serena Williams used to date Drake is that.
37:25
Speaker 3
Yeah, people were like, whoa that?
37:30
Speaker 2
I mean, a tough watch for I'd say the President
37:35
of the United States and Drake in particular.
37:38
Speaker 3
Apparently Trump walked out two minutes before the halftime show.
37:41
Oh really, yeah, he wouldn't. He wasn't They said he
37:43
wasn't in the he wasn't there for Yeah.
37:45
Speaker 2
I was surprised we didn't get his commentary.
37:48
Speaker 3
Yeah right, I thought he would do all right. I
37:51
figured that that's a big one. But I guess he didn't.
37:55
Speaker 2
Just a little bit more hopeful. Yeah, any complaints that
37:59
I heard, I was like, oh yeah, I also wanted
38:01
more like good kid mad cities, Like at least some
38:03
good kid mad city.
38:04
Speaker 3
You know, it's just impossible to satisfy everyone like a
38:07
Super Bowl halftime show is you know, it may may
38:12
have made it in the cold open, but like the
38:14
Katy Perry like American Maximalism halftime show, I think is
38:19
like one of the best halftime shows in terms of
38:22
like the American maximalism like.
38:24
Speaker 2
Of it always the assignment, Yeah goes above and beyond.
38:28
Speaker 3
This was like artistic, like turning the GNX into a
38:31
clown car and having everybody pop out of there and
38:33
like there's just so many interesting like it was. It
38:35
was definitely for for a very specific audience, which I liked.
38:40
Speaker 2
The clown car was also for for the kids. My
38:43
kids were like, whoa, how are so many people getting
38:46
out of that actor? But yeah, also bad night for Drake.
38:53
I feel like when he says certified, lover Boys certified,
38:57
and the entire super Dome Yeah said pedophile, Yeah.
39:03
Speaker 3
Any anybody at least even though he didn't say pedophile,
39:06
you know, he was like, Okay, I'll let y'all, I'll
39:08
let y'all do that part he did minor.
39:12
Speaker 2
Everybody.
39:13
Speaker 3
I Hear you like him young?
39:14
Speaker 2
That was still I Hear you like him young? And
39:20
then the Super Bowl ads, I feel like they have
39:23
a new tool where it's just like we're in the
39:27
weird ad era, kind of like the you know what
39:30
what Tim and Eric did for Old Spice, Yeah, has
39:34
been just rippling through the ad landscape ever since then. Now,
39:38
Like I feel like half of the ads are like,
39:42
we're doing Tim and Eric stuff the same way.
39:45
Speaker 3
Remember like when Dollar Shave Club did that one ad
39:48
that was like a long runner. Yeah, and every then
39:51
every fucking company had to start doing the long runner
39:55
Dollar Shave Club. And it's just funny, how certain like
39:58
how the advertising world kind of like coalesces around like
40:02
one aesthetic for a while, just like how every trailer
40:05
had some version of the inception.
40:08
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah, most people in media are you know, just copycats.
40:15
They're just copying.
40:16
Speaker 3
Yeah yeah, yeah.
40:17
Speaker 2
So yeah. There was the very strange Seal ad directed
40:20
by Takawa, in which Seal sings a modified version of
40:25
Kiss from a Rose that's all about mountain dew, Baja
40:29
Blast and like he can't open it because he got
40:31
seal flippers.
40:32
Speaker 3
How did you feel? Look, we we famously love Seal
40:37
and Baja Blast and Kiss from a Rose and Kiss
40:41
from a Rose one of my faves. I was a
40:44
bit underwhelmed, I'll be honest. I loved when he said
40:48
baha babaa bah. I was like, oh, okay, yes, and then.
40:57
Speaker 2
It was like an Aka on this show. Yeah, yeah,
41:00
straight up.
41:02
Speaker 3
But then it's just like for how long it went
41:04
and it was all about his singing. I was like, okay,
41:07
it kind of the well ran dry for me a
41:09
little bit, like.
41:12
Speaker 2
Quickly. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't didn't strike me
41:17
as like one of the better or worse ads. It
41:20
was like right right in the middle, Jason Momoa just
41:24
being the like I feel like his general energy in
41:28
those ads is like the bad guy from The Fast
41:30
and the Furious movies where he like tortures people for
41:36
like a hobby. So that's kind of weird. She's I
41:39
think they're like, do your do your Aquaman thing. But
41:43
I'm always reminded of when he's like sitting around having
41:47
a tea party with a bunch of dead bodies at
41:50
the beginning of The Fast and the Furious movie.
41:52
Speaker 3
What Also, how did Casey affleck stinking ass get back
41:56
on TV? I mean, I mean, I know his brother
41:59
dry through that commercial, but I was like, bruh, he was.
42:02
Speaker 2
Good at Oppenheimer. We'll give him a pass.
42:05
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's back. Baby.
42:07
Speaker 2
He was wildly convincing psychopath and Oppenheimer. So yeah, it
42:12
seems like a good, good enough guy. But yeah, I
42:15
don't know, Like the the fleshy hat one. Did you
42:18
see that the two B one? Yeah, where the kid
42:20
has like a cowboy hat like built into his head
42:24
like on like his skull is the shape of a
42:26
cowboy hat. Yeah, but like the brim has like weird
42:30
bends in it, so it like makes you be like,
42:33
is he in pain?
42:35
Speaker 3
Like no, man, hey man, Nope, nope, no, cowboy hats
42:38
perfect on the brim. You know, he's he's been wearing
42:41
that thing for a while. It has been doing hard
42:43
work in that skull is because isn't that thing like
42:46
and like he gets older, right, and then he goes
42:48
to a bar and he sees some like fantasy fans
42:50
who got like gandolf skulls, but they got a real
42:53
cowboy hat on top of their gandolf skull.
42:55
Speaker 2
Because they think it's just like cowboys are like back
42:57
in fashion or something like.
42:59
Speaker 3
Just be you.
43:00
Speaker 2
I didn't totally follow it, to be honest with you,
43:03
I have to.
43:04
Speaker 1
I have to.
43:04
Speaker 2
It's like one of those things. It's like a you know,
43:07
Currosawa film. He needs to be rewatched multiple times to
43:11
fully like get the layers. Same with the Ram Glen
43:14
pal Ram Truck Goldilocks ad. This is NI plus ad
43:19
where all the characters are inceptioned. But yeah, I don't know.
43:24
For some reason, the cowboy had attached the head felt
43:27
like a body horror thing to me. Really freaked me out.
43:32
And then I was looking for AI stuff and there
43:35
was a Google ad hyping Gemini AI that contained information
43:40
that was not not accurate. Like it's like a Wisconsin
43:46
dairy farmer who finds that Gouda cheese comprises fifty to
43:51
sixty percent of global cheese consumption and there's a blogger
43:55
who was like that can't be true.
43:58
Speaker 3
Yeah, and then our pizzas have Guda on them.
44:02
Speaker 2
Yeah, what are like, what are you talking about? How
44:05
could that be so like a thing that it's just
44:08
wild that they had an ad a Super Bowl ad
44:12
aimed at like getting people familiar with this product that
44:16
is all about like finding and contextualizing information, and it
44:20
had like a fact that I any human could tell you.
44:26
It's like they highlighted the problem with AI is like
44:30
the lack of human intervention to be like, guys, we're
44:33
gonna need to double check that the GUDA can't possibly
44:38
comprise fifty to sixty percent of global cheese consumption. And
44:42
so a blogger pointed that out, and then somebody from Google,
44:47
Jerry Dishler, was like, actually, Gemini scours websites, and multiple
44:53
sites across the web include the fifty to sixty percent stat.
44:56
Speaker 3
Okay, there are multiple websites that til you vaccines cause
44:59
autism exactly and exactly the problem. That's the fucking problem.
45:04
Speaker 2
And when you Google like what is the most consumed
45:07
type of cheese, Like it's not even it doesn't even
45:09
like those aren't the first ones that came up. It's
45:12
it's so wild.
45:14
Speaker 3
Yeah good, I mean, what a perfect, un ironic encapsulation
45:18
of what that whole thing is. Yeah, and then having
45:20
some dude be like, well, actually, just yeah, it's an
45:23
It's an l man. I'm sorry you spent millions of
45:26
dollars to just post something that made your product look
45:29
worse than it is. Wondering like what how what search
45:33
terms did they use to get to Google, like in
45:35
the Netherlands or something, you know what I mean, Like specifically,
45:39
I don't know what the fuck like where they're Google,
45:41
like sixty percent of global cheese consumption global being used
45:46
like globally within these five families in the Netherlands.
45:50
Speaker 2
Yeah, you know, yeah, I don't know. Very confusing anyways.
45:54
Also shout out to the Alien ads. There's an Alien
45:57
ad with Pete Davidson for Pam I think I thin
46:03
it was like a Super Bowl ad for Pansy, But
46:05
then there was a good one with Tim Robinson and
46:09
yeah for Totina's pizza.
46:10
Speaker 3
Rolls, and that sounds like a good match. Yeah.
46:13
Speaker 2
Also cool quote from Tim Robinson last week that people
46:18
were like, yeah, at the time that Lauren decided to
46:21
have Donald Trump host SNL writers weren't thrilled. One writer
46:26
at the time said Lauren has lost his mind. Someone
46:29
needs to take a gun and shoot him in the
46:31
back of the head. It was Tim Robinson.
46:35
Speaker 3
Oh, that's who Tim Robinson.
46:37
Speaker 2
Tim Robinson said that at the time.
46:41
Speaker 3
They go.
46:42
Speaker 2
But anyways, I think that's the trend I'm getting. We're
46:45
ready for the big disclosure, guys. That's what our Super
46:48
Bowl ads are telling us. There's also one where like
46:50
a UFO beam of Light is trying to steal someone's
46:53
Derrido's I think, hey.
46:55
Speaker 3
They got to get us in touch with the stakes
46:57
here for when the aliens come try and take our dors.
47:02
Speaker 2
That's right, all right, let's uh, let's take a quick
47:05
break and we'll be right back. And we're back. Mm hmmm.
47:18
And uh, Ice is putting up numbers, baby, in terms
47:24
of comparisons to the Gestapo. They're just crushing it, putting
47:30
up huge numbers there there.
47:35
Speaker 3
I mean, all last week you were hearing about ice
47:37
raids in so many different states that happened in Chicago,
47:42
there was a huge Denver and in Denver they said
47:47
they were there to quote capture over one hundred members
47:51
of the violent Venezuelan gang trend de AG, which is
47:55
the one that they used to first foment that first
47:58
immigrant panic when the are like they're they're kicking down
48:01
doors and they're they're robbing people there, they weren't. So
48:06
apparently after this raid they arrested one alleged gang member
48:11
and twenty nine other people were detained for unspecified reasons,
48:16
which is fair.
48:17
Speaker 2
You know, they would specify, you know, they would throw
48:19
claim those people were gang members if they had any
48:21
way of.
48:22
Speaker 3
And anecdotally, I'm I've heard all kinds of shit, of
48:26
people just getting stopped, people fucking impersonating ice to fuck
48:31
with people. There's like, it's this whole fucking wave of uh,
48:36
you know, raids is like brought upon all kinds of shit.
48:39
And now there's news that they're hearing up for like
48:41
some kind of huge action in La. Yeah, and like
48:44
you're saying, everyone's like, yeah, this is very geheimstatz polite
48:48
si if I may use the full name of the Gestapo. Yeah,
48:53
but yeah, it's unbelievable, and I think it was crazy,
48:58
as Jam points out, our writers just like how a
49:02
lot of people were like, yeah, this is like the Nazis,
49:05
but then it's actually the Nazis were inspired by America's
49:09
horrible treatment of in the nineteen thirties.
49:13
Speaker 2
Hitler was a huge fan of the United States, like
49:16
just generally and inspired by a lot of American culture
49:19
and this one in particular.
49:21
Speaker 3
Yeah, I'm surprised there isn't a move of conservatives be like,
49:23
we need to reclaim Nazism for America.
49:26
Speaker 2
That was our idea. Actually, so you guys need to
49:28
fucking chill out with Nazi comparisons. Yeah, give us credit.
49:33
Speaker 3
Yeah, I mean this was like stuff they were doing,
49:35
Like you know, they were screening people that were coming
49:38
from Mexico to quote force to strip naked, subjected to
49:42
screenings for homosexuality, low IQ physical deformities like clubbed fingers, okay,
49:48
doctor Mengola. Yeah.
49:49
Speaker 2
Eugenics was hugely popular in the United States, like in
49:52
the early twentieth century.
49:54
Speaker 3
They're like, all right, well we lost the slavery thing.
49:56
Else how else can we try and get our fingers
49:58
into everyone's lives? Make other people? And then this is
50:03
the other wild thing to disinfect quote unquote disinfect people
50:07
as they were coming through they were using these like gasoline, kerosene,
50:10
sulfuric acid, and even fucking zyklon b, which is the
50:15
exact same gas they used in gas chambers during the Holocaust.
50:19
I'm like, oh my god, what.
50:22
Speaker 2
If we just like crank that up a little bit,
50:24
Like we like where they're going with us, but what
50:25
if we just cranked it up a little higher?
50:28
Speaker 3
Yeah? Yeah, And I mean, like to the point, there's
50:30
like this one author who points out David Dorado Romo
50:35
this like actually no, no, no, this is a consequential.
50:42
Author even has a quote from Hitler in nineteen This
50:45
is a quote from Hitler in nineteen twenty four. Quote,
50:46
the American Union itself has established scientific criteria for immigration,
50:50
making an immigrant's ability to set foot on American soil
50:53
dependent on specific racial requirements on the one hand, as
50:56
well as a certain level of physical health of the
50:58
individual himself. And this was like, yeah, just just in
51:02
his musings, Like wow, interesting, interesting how they figured that out.
51:08
But yeah, I think the one thing that we have
51:10
seen is that every time Tom Homan goes on TV
51:14
and he's like, bah, this is I'm not getting away
51:17
with it, like how I want to the Ice like
51:19
Ice guy. He it's every time. It's because he's lamenting
51:24
that people are know their rights. So I think it's
51:27
really important for people to understand that that is the
51:30
best defense against these raids right now is purely being informed.
51:35
And like all immigration advocates, legal experts, they've been sharing
51:39
information all across social media and things like that, how
51:41
you should never open the door for Ice. This is
51:44
something you know, they need a warrant signed by a judge.
51:48
Ice will be like we have a warrant and you're like,
51:49
who's it signed by. It's like my friend who also
51:52
works at ICE, and that's you go, no, that's not valid.
51:56
I'm sorry. Nice fucking try. Never leave your home to
52:00
follow them, to be like, oh I got a warrant
52:02
over here, come check it out. Just exit your domicile.
52:06
Never do that.
52:07
Speaker 2
They're like vampires. It's so crazy, like.
52:11
Speaker 3
And yeah, otherwise you can be like, no, I'm good.
52:13
Also have this garlic. I have a ton of garlic
52:15
and wooden stakes in here. You're not gonna like it.
52:18
Don't sign anything. And again, for people who like want
52:20
to help, there's a lot. There's a huge need for
52:22
people who like notaries or like lawyers, people who can
52:25
work as interpreters because as Tom Holman said, like in Chicago,
52:30
that those raids did not go as well because he
52:32
said the people were quote too educated.
52:35
Speaker 2
Too too well educated. That's what that was, a quote
52:38
from fucking borders are, Tom Homan. They're too well educated.
52:43
They call it, No, you're rights. I call it how
52:45
to escape arrest. Oh okay, yeah, it is my right
52:49
to escape arrest. If you don't have you don't have
52:51
anything on the asshole they call it.
52:53
Speaker 3
It's such a stupid Again, you're so dumb. You just go.
52:56
They call it no your rights. I call it getting
52:58
away with the with your crime and what and what
53:01
of you sir and what have you? Yeah, yeah, this
53:05
is just uh yeah, I mean this, this is not
53:08
slowing down. But this is again like there's no catch
53:12
all at the moment to how this is how we
53:14
all push back and how we resist these things. But
53:16
there are clearly there are ways to slow this thing down.
53:20
One of them for sure is to inform yourself and
53:23
others in your community who could be at risk from
53:25
harassment by ICE to know what their actual rights are,
53:28
rather than you know, finding the guy who just put
53:31
on a you know, a fucking tactical vest with police
53:35
on it and be look, I know everything. Now come
53:38
come with me, so I can, you know, completely violate
53:41
your rights, So you know, can let's continue to inform
53:44
ourselves at least in this in this dimension or at
53:48
least this aspect against pushing back against this ICE nonsense.
53:51
Speaker 2
He He also said that the Colorado raid didn't go
53:54
as well as he had hoped so because of local
53:57
activists and community members. So it is work like this
54:01
is the sort of local action that can actually be
54:05
helpful while we're waiting to figure out what's going to
54:08
happen at a more national level.
54:11
Speaker 3
Yeah, because when you read like the writings of people
54:14
that were involved in like resistance movements like in World
54:17
War two and stuff, it's like the theme there isn't
54:21
always like it's not to beat the Nazis, like we cannot.
54:25
We just don't have the infrastructure or the ability to
54:29
fight off an entire army like that. The point is
54:32
to cause as much friction as possible, to make things
54:35
as difficult as possible, to sabotage when necessary. And these
54:40
are the kinds of you know, ways we're seeing that
54:42
sort of play out in these like very sort of
54:44
micro scenarios. Yeah. But yeah, I mean again, which is
54:48
so weird to think it's like, yeah, we're sabotaging them
54:50
by knowing our rights, unfortunately that's the way, but telling
54:55
them what is legal, right, Yeah, all right, those are
54:58
some of the things that are trying on this Monday morning,
55:02
February tenth.
55:03
Speaker 2
We're back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the
55:05
show with the Great Blair Saki, So you can tune
55:09
in for that until then, be kind to each other,
55:13
be kind to yourselves, get your vaccines, and get your
55:16
flu shots, especially your flu shots. Right now. I was
55:20
talking to a doctor who's saying that the flu shot
55:23
this year in particular, like people who are getting this
55:28
year's flu without the flu shot are down for like
55:31
two weeks. People who have had their flu shot, it's
55:34
more like a two day situation. So this year in
55:36
particular feels like a good one to get your flu
55:39
shot if you haven't already. Don't do nothing about white supremacy,
55:43
and we will talk to yell tomorrow. Bye bye.