There’s more news and less comprehension today than any historical period that didn’t involve literal witch trials, and trying to stay on top of it all can feel like playing a game of telephone with 30 people, except everyone’s speaking at the same time and like a third of them are openly racist for some reason. From Cracked co-founder Jack O’Brien, THE DAILY ZEITGEIST is stepping into that fray with some of the funniest and smartest comedic and journalistic minds around. Jack and co-host Miles Gray spend up to an hour every weekday sorting through the events and stories driving the headlines, to help you find the signal in the noise, with a few laughs thrown in for free.
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episode 4: CyberF**ked, Trump SAVES Canada? 03.06.25
In episode 1824, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, Fizaa Dosani, to discuss.....
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Speaker 1
This fucking Luca guy. Man, I'll tell you what a guy.
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It was my la accent bro Yo, who's this? Oh
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you see this fucking Luca guy. I wish he did
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play for the nick so more people like freaking lucer Luca.
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That is one of the wildest like accent flourishes, the
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end of an a having to be an R. It's
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British people too. I think I heard Elton John. I
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capt Elton John doing it and like it'll take you
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a couple of vodka and sodas.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, there was like an infamous like Lonely Island line
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where they go like yesterday, I saw a film, as
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I recalled, it was a horror film and it works.
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Speaker 1
It works in very specific parts of New York. Yeah,
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but yeah, my friends was from grew up in in
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New York City. Can't can't get a word ending in
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a out without dropping that R on the end of
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the exactly, you know, when he's not trying to do
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the hard R, he's still exit by accident. He thought
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he was being cool. Hello the Internet, and welcome to
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season three, seventy eight, Episode four of Guy. How These
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Episodes Fly? Episode four already of season three seventy eight.
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I mean it feels like just yesterday. Oh, it's almost Friday. Friday.
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There's like a Morning Zoo show when I was a kid,
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when it was Friday, everyone scream that's Friday. That's everywhere.
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That was everybody across Americas where I'm a strange come.
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Speaker 3
So that's from Big Boy's like growing up in La Radio,
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working in La Radio.
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Speaker 1
That was what I think.
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Speaker 3
When Big Boys say his name, everyone goes big Way
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like in the background.
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Speaker 1
That's just that's just basic. Morning Radio also had this
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thing they said that was definitely unique to them. They said,
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TG I F I think it was thank God it's Friday.
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Whoa that was Dayton Dayton FM radio original I think. Anyways,
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and this is a podcast where we take that Morning
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Zoo energy and take a deep bab into America share consciousness.
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It is Thursday, March six mm hmm. It's also National
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Slam the scam Day Thursday.
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Speaker 3
Of It's it's Consumer Protection Week. I think this will
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be I don't think we're gonna have this anymore. So
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let's enjoy our last consumer protection Week ever, and then
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the scams will be just people. We are gonna have
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to add to our phone book in respect.
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Speaker 1
It's also National dress Day now, National White Chocolate Cheese
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cake Day, National Oreo Cookie Day, National Frozen Food Day.
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I think more to preserve food rather than like the
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preservative laden frozen foods that you know I love to eat,
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like those kids dinners with the weird brownie and the
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penguin on It. Also National Dept's Day. Shoutout that shout
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out teeth, shout out. Wow, we got some big ones Oreo.
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I mean that's a that's a big one for me.
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Shout out. That's a big one. You gotta tell you
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take your kids aside. And then they got real specific
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on the white chocolate cheesecake for some reason. Yeah. Again,
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this is where honestly we should I just gotta be like,
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how do I get Zeitgeist Day on here? Yeah, to
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be honest, dollars yeah exactly. Four won't do it. Local,
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won't do it, business commerce department or whatever. Damn it.
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You know what we're doing exactly what this thing basically
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is their sales pitch to companies. It's like seven benefits.
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You get news, you get news coverage, and you enter
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the conversation. Yeah, well got us cell phone. We got
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nothing else, folks. Yeah, slam the scam day. I mean
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it is sad because that did sound serious and like
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they were going to pass some very legitimate legislation behind
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the slam the scam. Nope, nope again, sounds like a
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morning Zoo idea. Uh my name is Jack O'Brien aka
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cost going up on a Tuesday, Musk get in the
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house and he's douche stop. Mark is fucked on a Tuesday,
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Tammy four oh one case days losing that one at
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Christy Almagucci Man. Remember I love mconan. What a time
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cousin of one of the producers who created the Daily
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Heist main music that you hear, right, Yeah, Jimmy Greg cousin.
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We love Mconyan, we love I love Mconaan. He's all right.
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I don't know what up in him. I'm thrilled to
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be joined as always buy my co host, mister Miles
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Grass Miles Gray aka my Strops. Ain't all that sweet
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masserration one. I'm jingling my teeth masserration but so thick
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like it's glue. Come dial up beaties for you. Okay,
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now this isn't this is that was to the tune
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of operation and they were talking about macerated berries again
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to create that juicy, delicious, sweet feeling that was just
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a culinary phrase, brought it shot a housey on salad
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for that combination of things. I saw that, I understood it.
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Thank you, macerate your berries whenever possible. I thought that
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that was a disgusting term. I did not know what
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it meant, and I skipped right past it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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what is that? Just like putting sugar on it and
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then like warming it up, or you just just honestly
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sugar put a little sprinkle, little sugar, a little sugar
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on it, Yeah, okay, and then make it sounds like masturbation. Yeah.
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For some reason, Miles, We're thrilled to be joined in
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our third seat by one of our favorite guests who
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hasn't been on in a while. Thrilled to have them back.
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A hilarious stand up comedian, actor, writer, founding member of
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Facial Recognition Comedy. You've seen her on Dear White People,
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How to Get Away with Murder, all the up and
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coming comedian lists stages across America. Please welcome back to
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the show, visit de Son.
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Speaker 4
Guys. Thank you so much for having me.
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Speaker 5
Jack Miles doesn't feel like it's been a long time.
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Speaker 4
I know it has technically, but just.
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Speaker 1
I don't know the three long years it's been, and
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we were just saying it doesn't. I don't even know
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what a year means anymore, I.
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Speaker 5
Know, why does Is this a collective experience or is
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this just something that happens with age?
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Speaker 4
The perception of time just feels like just a second, it's.
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Speaker 1
A I don't know. That's I wonder. I mean that
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it affects all of us, but I don't even know
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how to even talk about this in a smart way.
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I don't know. Everybody I talk to is like, dang,
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time goes by real quick. Huh the days are long?
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Or yeah, the days are long, the years are short.
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The podcasts are infinite, Like I feel, yeah, like podcast
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time is because it's so much of being on in
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the same format, Like it's just every episode is like
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a drop in the infinite time loop of the daily zeitgeist.
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For me, I don't I can hardly differentiate one episode
07:34
to the next. I'm like, yeah, as we were talking
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about the other day, and it's like you mentioned that
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in twenty eighteen.
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Speaker 4
Yeah, it's like in a little pocket Universe of Zone.
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Speaker 1
Yeah exactly, it's like Severance. Wow, but what do you
07:50
like doing the show? Yeah? Man, No, Severence is good.
07:55
They actually like their jobs. Okay, oh okay, soocho uh
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fizz A. Wonderful to have you back. We're gonna get
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to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
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we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of things we're
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talking about. We're gonna talk about the experience of owning
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a cyber truck. This has been a question that I've had.
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What's it like for those people, I mean cyber truck
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in particular, they should have known better when they when
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they bought them, Like at that point he was well
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on his way to the open Nazi salutes, et cetera.
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But yeah, just like, what's that like to be associated
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with Elon Musk these days? We'll check in with them.
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We'll check in with The La Times. Obviously, there's the
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famous billionaire owned paper of Jeff Bezos, the Washington Post.
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But we got our own. Don't forget about us over
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here in La The La Times has a billionaire owner
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who's got some interesting ideas about how to keep things
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fair and balanced. So we'll talk about that, We'll talk
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about how Trump is saving neoliberalism in Canada inadvertently, all
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of that plenty more. But first, physic we do like
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to ask our guest, what is something from your search
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history that's revealing about who you are?
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Speaker 5
I mean, I'll just give you the last thing that
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I googled how many miles is going around the Earth?
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And I was about to Yeah, I was about to
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do an audition where I played a lab technician for
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an auto manufacturer, and I don't know what that looks like.
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So I just was thinking of facts that I could
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just maybe spit out to seem like you know what
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I'm talking about, Uh huh. In case you're curious, it's
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Earth's circumference is twenty four nine hundred and one miles.
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Speaker 4
So if you are you going to.
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Speaker 1
Use that, just give me a little flavor how you're
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going to drop that little fact in the audition.
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Speaker 5
Okay, So I was looking. I was sort of in
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my mind's eye seeing a lab where a car was
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being tested in the lap. So it's not physically driving
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around right, driving on those.
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Speaker 1
Little wheel roller thing. Yeah, so a lot of treadmills.
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Speaker 5
I was really slick about it. I was kind of
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cool about it. I was like, I was like, huh,
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look at my little notepad. You've gone around the earth,
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or I said.
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Speaker 4
I said the number.
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Speaker 5
It was like, uh, twenty four thousand and nine whatever
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times ten, so it was like four hundred.
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Speaker 4
I don't remember.
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Speaker 1
I can't do it. Forty miles.
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Speaker 4
Yeah, you've been around the world ten times, the.
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Speaker 1
World ten times. Yeah, And then like a producer is like,
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hold on one second, I think that's that's a circumference.
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That's the actual circumference of the earth. Okay, oh yeah,
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back out the math check now. We found her. We
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found her. We found her. That's cool. That is a
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fun fact. That's also like the sort of thing I'm
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always looking up as a as a father, you know, right,
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like kids have curious questions like that. So yeah, okay,
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do you still remember how many feet in a mile? Jack?
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It's either fifty to eighty. Yeah. Yeah. I always am
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between twenty five hundred and eighty or fifty five two
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hundred and eighty and never get it right. Hey, the
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numbers are there though, the number I have the numbers,
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they are in the wrong order everything, But that's all good,
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that's right.
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Speaker 4
But you know what, They're in the cloud, that's.
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Speaker 1
Right there there.
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Speaker 5
If I don't know a fact, I'm like, it's in
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the cloud. Let me just you know, google it bumpers down.
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Speaker 4
You know everything in it.
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Speaker 1
What is something physically you think is underrated? Oh?
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Speaker 4
Man, robes? I'm actually wearing one right now.
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Speaker 1
I'm gonna say I I caught that high pile fleece
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robe with the leftoard print. Yeah.
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Speaker 5
I mean, I think people think of it as homewhere,
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but I would love to bring robes out into the
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world to formal events. Even they're I think they're stylish,
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They're they're flattering, they cinch at the waist, which it
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gives you a silhouette, keeps you warm.
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Speaker 4
I opted for a robe instead of a jacket today.
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Speaker 1
I mean historically, like like, aren't robes like the pop
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in like the most popping ship you could wear, really,
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you know what I mean? And then we just kind
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of made them bathrobes. I feel like if somebody pulled
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up like like an emperor, Yeah yeah, bring back to
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fucking emperor robes. Now. This is this is how we
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embrace the class war, is that we wear our bathrobes
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out to show people like we are. We are the
12:24
you know, the nobility of you need something, you know,
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like they're there are umbrellas in Hong Kong there, you know,
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everybody like has their They had a bit of a
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function too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, those are those are functional,
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I think, But like bathrobes are functional in that they're
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so fucking comfy. Yeah, so comfy. Who's gonna get I mean,
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I feel like a billionaire that's their nightmare to I
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would never wear a bathrobe in public. That's how would
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they know I'm a billionaire.
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Speaker 3
And what I mean, I don't give a fuck. I'm
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gonna be comfortable. This is my bathrobe. I've got multiple robes.
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Speaker 1
I'm not gonna front. There is the concept of pajama
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rich that where you get so rich that you just
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start wearing your pajamas out into public. Also, I feel
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like wearing a pajama set is a flex Like I've
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I like in one of these sort of like fire
13:17
relief clothing boxes I got. There are like many things
13:19
like were like nice pajama sets that were donated and
13:22
I'm like, I've never worn a pajama set in my life,
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and part of me felt like I was the was
13:27
like class betrayal to like put on this like Brooks
13:29
Brothers pajama set, someone that donated. I'm like, I can't.
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I can't wear this shit. I need to wear basketball
13:36
shorts and no shirt. Okay. So pajama rich comes I
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think from a Bill Simmons The Sports Guy column where
13:43
he was talking about Jack Nicholson coming to a Lakers
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game in his pajamas and nobody cared because he's pajama rich.
13:50
And Hugh Hefner also famously, I think the one person
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who has pulled it off. It just needs to be
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a fancy enough road, right Like Hugh Hefner's robes were
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like silk and ship. You know it was a smoking
14:04
jacket that went down to the floor. Whereas you know
14:07
it just can't look past all the allegations when he
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wears I'm just chilling. The thing about me is I'm
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a chill How often you wear that robe? Is it? Like?
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I know you say you like it, but are we?
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Are we for real? Do you step in?
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Speaker 4
I wear a robe on a daily basis.
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Speaker 5
I'm known in my neighborhood as I have two big
14:26
huskies that I walked around the world. So this is
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this is one rope I have. I have one in
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black with a fuzzy, fuzzy neck collar. I have one
14:36
that says doctor desani, I'm not a doctor.
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Speaker 1
You have one that's like actual, like a doctor's lab
14:45
coat or a bathrobe that just that is giving white
14:50
coat scientists, doctor vibes.
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Speaker 5
I do have a white coat as well, just for yeah,
14:57
and to trick people into letting you get them shots.
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Speaker 3
That is the cool thing about being Asian. We can
15:03
lie about being a doctor anywhere. Yeah you know, doctor,
15:07
They're just not me.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Oh yeah, I'll pull up. I'll pull up in
15:11
a hoodie and just say I'm a doctor and people like,
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oh thank you. I'm like yeah, and I'm in I'm
15:16
in dermatology. That's what my skin looks like this. Can
15:18
you pick out the way now?
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Speaker 5
Shirtless and shoeless, I'm a dermatologist, a p dietrist.
15:26
Speaker 1
Do it all. That's right. Do you think you've walked
15:29
your dogs twenty four nine and one miles? Oh absolutely, yeah,
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you've done a full lap.
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Speaker 4
Yeah, I do about I do about like five miles
15:39
a day.
15:40
Speaker 1
Let me do that back.
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Speaker 4
It's twenty four thousand whatever.
15:43
Speaker 1
Divide yeah, yeah, no, it checks out. Wait, you do
15:46
five miles of dog walking a day total?
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Speaker 3
Yeah, damn that doesn't fucking I have a small dog
15:53
this day and he hates walking. He's let's take a ship.
15:57
I gotta go back inside.
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Speaker 1
I'm not. He's like small, you know what I mean.
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So there's like different levels of exercise that they need.
16:03
But damn, that's a fucking that's a good walk you
16:06
could take. Listen to a lot of shit on that one,
16:09
all right. And what fizza is something that you think
16:12
is overrated?
16:13
Speaker 5
Apple air pods or any sort of earbuds that just
16:17
stick inside your ear and don't have something that attaches
16:20
to your ear. This is more of a personal thing.
16:22
I just hate the way it feels. Yeah, and they
16:27
fall out, and I just you know, when you're on
16:30
an airplane, you're you feel like like your ear is
16:33
stuff up. I don't know, I feel like it.
16:35
Speaker 1
Feels like how do you feel? Yeah?
16:37
Speaker 3
I feel oh like just from the pressure seal like around.
16:41
It just feels a little bit. Yeah, okay, I get that.
16:44
Speaker 1
And the noise cancelation on those does freak me out
16:46
a little bit. Where you put it in and it's
16:47
just like zoom. You feel like you're just like inside
16:50
a balloon all of a sudden, What the fuck is
16:52
going on here? Yeah? I love that, Like equal my
16:55
equilibrium gets a little fucked.
16:57
Speaker 4
Up, falling because I have no balance, went like.
17:02
Speaker 1
Ies crossing, You're like, bro, they put it like during
17:09
the testing of the AirPods, they put it in and
17:11
people just start falling over the early ones. Good yeah,
17:19
oh god, get it up. Have you seen that? I
17:22
actually really like that sensation. I don't know why.
17:25
Speaker 3
I think I was, like, I'm one of those kids
17:26
who like tried to hide in the tiniest boxes, Like
17:29
I'm the opposite of claustrophobic.
17:31
Speaker 1
I like to claustrophilic. I guess that's why they're drawn
17:33
to each other miles. Yeah, and why we just hold
17:35
each other so tight. Wheah you see each other.
17:37
Speaker 4
Maybe you guys can share a coffin in the afterlife.
17:40
Speaker 1
Yeah, that's right. It wouldn't be tight enough. How are
17:44
we face or uh penis to button or six classic
17:55
that's like Lincoln lugs exactly, or they don't fit or
17:59
they don't fit right. But yeah, like have you seen
18:01
those clips of like those rooms that are truly like
18:04
sound vacuums, like they're designed for no sound waves to
18:07
like move in them. Yeah, though they're like total back.
18:10
I think they have to be like have the air
18:12
sucked out of them, like yeah, yeah yeah, And they
18:14
say that is so disorienting, and part of me is like, bro,
18:17
I want to know that. I want to know the
18:20
extreme of most humans in sensations.
18:22
Speaker 3
So if y'all work in one of those research facilities
18:25
and you can, if you're down to have a four
18:27
year old just come through to fuck around in there
18:29
for like five minutes.
18:29
Speaker 1
Through, let me know. Yeah. I think those cost like
18:33
millions of dollars to create, Like they create them for
18:36
like to to build like the James web Space Telescope
18:40
and like shit like that where they can't have any
18:42
germs or like imperfections touching a thing. They'll like create
18:45
a whole room that's a vacuum, so that like the
18:48
germs is like fall right to the ground or whatever.
18:50
But you're like, hey, could I just like kind of
18:52
drunk drive through there? Yeah? I can? I play some
18:56
SoundCloud off my cell phone in here? Well tell me
18:59
your doctor, yeah exactly exactly. They're like, are those official
19:04
doctors sandals you're wearing? Yeah? The doctors. Doctors wear some
19:10
fucked up shoes because they need comfort. You know, they're
19:13
on their feet all day. So you're good there. Yeah,
19:16
that's true. The white robe is like approximating it, but
19:21
it's clearly a bathrobe. And doctor Miles is written in sharp.
19:25
That's the one thing that's fucking it up. I spell
19:28
Miles with like white tape, all crudely, just on that.
19:32
And you have loose cigarettes coming out of your podcast.
19:35
Speaker 3
And I'm wearing I'm wearing a commemorative Scrubs Rewatch podcast
19:38
t shirt. I'd be like, dude, I'm a doctor. Why
19:40
would I be wearing this because my favorite podcast. Yeah,
19:43
went to medical school. Yeah, watching Scrubs one and a
19:47
half times all the way through. All right, let's uh,
19:52
let's take a quick break, should we Should we do that?
19:55
Speaker 1
Should we take a little break? Do we come back
19:56
and talk about some news? Yes, let's do it. I'll
20:00
be right back and we're back. And I've been waiting
20:15
for the backlash, and I mean it's coming. Like Tesla
20:18
stock is way down right like that, it's going down
20:21
and doing badly, not readily as I think it deserves,
20:25
but it's been badly. It's definitely on its way down.
20:28
There's definitely a lot of debate over if it's actual
20:31
people boycotting the brand, if it's just generally it's on
20:34
a downward slope because Tesla's have become less of desirable
20:38
in the EV market, but because like there are some
20:41
that are claiming they're like, yes, yes, folks, this is
20:44
what we did to Elon Musk and know people like,
20:46
it's hard to exactly say if it's just because the
20:48
Trump shitter, just because the guys sucks overall and people
20:51
fucking hate him. It's hard to tell, but it is,
20:54
it's not doing great, but also it's yeah, it's volid.
20:59
It's always been volatile. It was at its peak like
21:02
after he after the election, like right after I think
21:07
Inauguration day, right before I guess like December was its
21:10
peak of all time, and since then it has fallen sharply,
21:15
but probably, you know, hard to differentiate as of yet.
21:20
I do just feel like it's got to be so
21:23
much less cool to own a Tesla now than it
21:27
ever has been in the history of that car or
21:31
any maybe Volkswagen during World War Two. But it's not
21:34
not that people didn't put it together. I don't think
21:39
they were super popular anyway. It's Hitler's what's wait, what's
21:42
that car he's in right now? I think that. Well,
21:46
I don't know about driving around LA. I see people
21:49
going hard as cyber trucks.
21:51
Speaker 6
I admittedly have also gone hard as a cyber truck owner. Yeah,
21:56
I didn't do middle fingers, yeah, because my dad taught
21:59
me better. But the thing I do is I'll give
22:01
a thumbs down like this, just straight up, straight up.
22:05
I think this is I think a thumbs down like
22:07
just seeing like, you know, the ship where like you're
22:09
in sort of bumper to bumper traffic and you're facing
22:11
the opposite lane of traffic, so like I could look
22:13
dead into the driver's eye. I'll just do some ship
22:16
like I'm fucking what's the hero? I'll be like this no,
22:21
And some people are like fuck you and really get masked.
22:24
Speaker 1
Some people get it reaction because part of me just
22:26
feels like it's the most childish way to say fuck
22:28
you is just yes, wow, thumbs down.
22:32
Speaker 5
But back in the day and what is the Roman
22:34
Times or Greek Times at the Amphitheater.
22:38
Speaker 4
Yeah, that was like life or dead.
22:40
Speaker 1
So and these motherfuckers do be thinking about ancient Rome,
22:42
so maybe they are taking to be something. Damn, he
22:45
just threatened our life. Yeah, so you have to be
22:47
like no, but in a Ciscle and Ebert way.
22:50
Speaker 5
But you know what, some of them deserve that because
22:52
I almost me and my dogs were walking. We almost
22:54
got hit by a cyber truck that that ran a
22:57
stop signed. So that guy gets a thumb.
22:59
Speaker 1
Down, you know, yeah, I would agree with that, but
23:01
I mean for something like that that's a little more existential.
23:03
Speaker 3
I think you can go harder than a thumbs down
23:05
to each their own. You don't have to engage all
23:07
these people. But yes, the brand is not strong in
23:10
this city, and it's to the point where people have
23:12
to put like help me bumper stickers on their tesla's
23:15
where they're like, hey, this was before the guy came
23:18
out as a fascist dick bag. Is when I buy
23:20
this further record, I didn't buy it because but I
23:23
think that's why cyber truck owners get the stick because
23:26
this shit has been for purchase in the New Boy
23:29
era musk and there's real no plausible deniability around whether
23:33
or not you like who's your politics, It did or
23:35
didn't affect your purchase yeah, either way, a.
23:39
Speaker 5
Cyber truck let me merge and I just had cognitive dissonance.
23:43
It was very difficult for me.
23:45
Speaker 1
Yeah, you just slammed the brakes and break checked it
23:48
to get over and it's like, fucking I had to
23:51
do something. But in so, they've been in the news
23:54
this week. First of all, Tesla's been in the news.
23:56
Somebody lit I think the first Tesla not factory, but
24:01
the first Tesla like showroom in France on fire and
24:06
burnt it to the ground. Oh yeah, you know how
24:08
France do. But there's just been a smattering of stories
24:12
that suggest that owning a cyber truck means being subjected
24:16
to never end, to a never ending gauntlet of embarrassment
24:20
and shame. So there was Marty Grass Parade in New
24:23
Orleans and a cyber truck rolled up and it was
24:27
like all black but then had like flashing lights and
24:31
kind of looked a little like the car from Night
24:34
Rider was had some interesting stuff like I think in
24:38
a yeah, it looked a little like kit but like
24:41
also the lights were flashing on the top, so it
24:43
could look like a cop car a little bit. But
24:46
the second that rolled up, cops cyber trucks. Are they
24:51
really Yeah yeah, wow, Yeah. The second that ship rolled up,
24:55
it was just mercilessly booed un from the time it
25:01
was in sight of the people on the side of
25:04
the road. Some people on Reddit were also claiming that
25:06
the car was pelted with beads aggressively until a window broke.
25:11
Speaker 4
Oh this windows suck.
25:14
Speaker 1
Yeah, those windows that are supposed to be indestructible. Those
25:17
accounts are unconfirmed and yet very funny. Wait, okay, so
25:20
this is wow. This thing looks annoying as fun Wow. Okay,
25:31
well yeah, that's I don't know what that person thought
25:34
the reaction was gonna be. Yeah, dude, my ass car.
25:39
Everyone's gonna fucking They probably like lived their life on
25:43
I guess my thought heading into this was like, oh,
25:45
they probably lived their life on like cyber truck enthusiast forums.
25:50
But as we'll get to even those are not safe.
25:52
Those are just people sharing horror stories of what it's
25:56
like to drive around in a cyber truck. There's a
25:58
report on four or four media about a Facebook group
26:01
for cyber truck owners in which they commiserate about the
26:05
shared hell of driving around in a cyber truck. Apparently
26:08
people are constantly leaving notes containing messages like Nazi car
26:13
and what's Elon's cum taste like, which is another way
26:20
of giving the thumbs down a little bit more explicit.
26:23
That must be so shattering to some cyber truck owner's
26:25
soul to be like, but this is the stuff I
26:28
should post on four chan coming back at me.
26:32
Speaker 4
Elon must come is delicious.
26:36
Speaker 1
It's really good. It's actually better than So that's some
26:39
famous misconception, is that it wouldn't be good, but it's
26:42
actually good. So you're actually the one who looks stupid
26:46
right now, hired taste. Yeah yeah. People also kick the
26:53
cars throw quote slices of cheese at them for some reason.
26:58
No word on whether the cheese has shattered any windows. Yeah,
27:01
well probably. I think this is the thing that I
27:04
also see too, is the amount of people who cope
27:07
with their cyber truck and they're like, dude, it's just
27:10
like such a fucking truck. Dude is so sick, Like
27:12
it just does all this truck stuff because it's like
27:14
man truck and I'm truck man with it. And there's
27:18
also so many videos of it absolutely failing to do
27:21
the most basic things like drive in just a little
27:23
bit of snow or all this other stuff.
27:26
Speaker 3
And it's interesting to see how, like obviously with Elon
27:29
Musk ascending to like the heights of government and sort
27:31
of being like the winner at the moment in terms
27:35
of like the socio political environment, that that hasn't really
27:39
changed anything about traditional mask like American male masculinity. Like
27:43
a truck is still like a Ford or a Dodge
27:46
or a Chevy, you know what I mean, not this
27:49
fucking weird like drawing of like from a fucking you know,
27:52
octagonal like video game rendering car. And I don't know, Like,
27:56
it's interesting to see how there's still that group of
27:58
people who are like.
27:59
Speaker 1
Well, now younes on top. Behold, I'm one of these
28:02
cyber truck guys. Now you'll celebrate me. Right, Wait, what's
28:06
his com taste? Like? Hold on, but I thought we're winning.
28:10
First of all, probably delicious. Second of all, how would
28:13
I know? Okay, yeah, yeah, but there's so these cyber
28:17
truck groups. Facebook groups are you know, first of all
28:21
entertaining because you get to see the collection of all
28:25
all the people flinging them off. But it also reveals
28:29
something scary, which is that cyber trucks are outfitted with
28:32
so many cameras that they can catch like every they're like, look,
28:36
this person's rolling their eyes as they drive by in
28:39
the opposite lane on the four or five right right,
28:42
like they have just like super obsess over it. They're
28:46
insecurities played by plate. Oh my god, this fucking guy
28:50
gave me three thumbs downs those recording in century mode.
28:54
That's what they call it, century mode Jesus.
28:57
Speaker 3
Yeah, well, I've also seen people post like how the
29:01
camera rays work, and they're like being like, it's there
29:04
aren't that many blind spots.
29:05
Speaker 1
But hey, yeah, I don't know. I don't know if
29:07
anyone is a tesla mechanic and you can tell us
29:09
how to completely render those cameras useless, maybe by simply
29:14
turning it on because it's a tesla. But I'm curious
29:18
to know these kinds of tips and tricks. Yeah, they're
29:21
they're also trying to identify the people who like who
29:26
are flipping them off for giving them thumbs down. Miles,
29:29
you should you should go on these forums to make
29:31
sure very very free speech, very free speech absolutist, I know, right, Yeah,
29:37
we're all about free speech and uh you know, making
29:40
comedy legal. I'm gonna I'm gonna fucking sue that twelve
29:45
year old that rolled their eyes at me. Oh Jesus Christ,
29:49
God bless you. We tell you about that time when
29:51
I first learned the flip off motion like this one,
29:55
you know, the the arm the yeah, the full four.
30:00
My friend and I when we were like five, learned
30:02
that and then we just went in my backyard to
30:05
the street that went behind my house and just flipped
30:08
off everything that like just full, full, whole body flip off.
30:16
Speaker 4
What does that imply?
30:17
Speaker 5
Elbow deep Like that's way worse than a finger, like,
30:20
you know, I don't know, I'm just going off.
30:24
Speaker 1
The you know, makes does make more sense, like because
30:27
you're stopping at a certain point, but it's like, so universe,
30:30
I'm gonna.
30:30
Speaker 7
Stick my fist up yours. You're giving them, Yeah, yeah,
30:36
up to the bicep. Anything more would be would be
30:39
would be a little I believe, yeah, or I would
30:42
be charged with murder.
30:43
Speaker 1
So let's be real. Anyways, I got in trouble, Oh
30:46
you did. Somebody pulled over and little assholes. It was
30:51
like wheeling West Virginia. It wasn't like a big pound
30:53
so I probably like flipped off my three neighbors. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
30:57
and they're like, this is O'Brien, your son is out
31:02
back giving everybody the full body a little burst your asshole.
31:10
Speaker 5
You're young enough you could just say, I, you know,
31:12
you could the plausible deniability of I don't know what
31:15
it means.
31:16
Speaker 1
I think that's what I went with, even though like
31:18
the whole point was that I had just learned what
31:21
it meant. I don't think my mom meant believed me.
31:24
I still remember lies I told at this period of
31:28
my life, and damn, well, don't put it on wax
31:30
is gonna come back to haunt you. Your mom's I
31:33
knew it. I fucking knew it. You're it. Yeah, Jack
31:36
knew the whole time. Honey, get in here. You don't
31:40
believe I just heard on his podcast one guy on
31:44
Facebook is claiming that his roofing business lost seventy grand
31:48
in business that purely because of his cyber truck. Yeah
31:52
because well, I mean I guess he like incorporates cyber
31:55
trucks into his business. Oh you know those are the
31:58
trucks that they use on business. And somebody was like, yeah,
32:04
I was gonna give them our work, and then we
32:06
canceled the contract because this guy, Yeah, they.
32:09
Speaker 5
Don't want their property with cyber trucks all over them. Promise,
32:13
not a good look. So this guy just invested in
32:15
the wrong course.
32:16
Speaker 1
Yeah, I went. I think in some yeah, some parts,
32:18
they're like they like Elon Musk because of the edge
32:21
words ship, and then they're shocked when people are associating
32:23
that with them because they bought the edge Lord car
32:26
and like they're they're like me in the backyard being
32:30
like doing the thing that's edge Lord and then being like, well,
32:33
I didn't know what it meant, right, They're just stuck.
32:37
They're just stuck into like here comes a car.
32:39
Speaker 4
Yes.
32:40
Speaker 3
And then when someone when someone goes, excuse me, I
32:45
think your kids like flicking people?
32:47
Speaker 1
What the fuck?
32:48
Speaker 4
What I thought it was?
32:49
Speaker 1
How are you doing? I thought it meant GGI loser
32:54
shit loser shiit me and cyber truck owners that's what
32:59
we haven't Yeah, I'll find out. I did like this one.
33:03
Another cyber truck owner on the Facebook group pointed out
33:06
that actually all this hate is a good thing for
33:09
Tesla because Elon Musk is a genius and quote the
33:13
massive online negativity is actually fueling more curiosity and exposure.
33:18
Speaker 3
Yes, yes, similar, like when you post crimes on the
33:21
internet and then there's a lot of uh, you know,
33:23
curiosity from the police investigating it. Yeah, it's like great, dude,
33:28
it's like so bad they write about us in.
33:32
Speaker 1
A very mocking tone. Oh yeah, well look well we
33:36
all cope in our own ways, so sort of like the.
33:38
Speaker 5
All publicity is good publicity. But right, I mean, the
33:41
real question I think is is are sales up?
33:46
Speaker 7
No?
33:47
Speaker 1
No hours ago? In the New York Times, Tesla sales
33:52
slump in Europe as anger toward Elon Musk grows performing
33:57
markets as global Slit sales plumb. It Yeah, so not
34:02
popular than you, I mean in Europe. In the US
34:06
might still be hanging on because of because they people
34:10
want to prove that they're not part of the wolkline virus. Yeah.
34:13
Here's I think this is a good sign. Tesla brings
34:15
back zero percent loans to boost am hand in the US. Wow,
34:20
zero percent loans. Damn bro, this fucking environment. I'm yeah,
34:25
that'll wow. I love a zero percent love.
34:28
Speaker 4
But not for give it Tesla away.
34:30
Speaker 1
You're gonna actually fucking need some good sales figures here,
34:33
Could we just give you these cars and like you
34:36
just pay us back whenever is good? They're like, yeah,
34:39
fucking taking the public library approached. You can just have
34:44
this like honestly, we yeah, no, it's yours, free and clear.
34:48
And then just like, do you think you could pay
34:50
us back at some point that would be cool? Yeah,
34:52
we don't want to bung you out. No worries if not,
34:56
no worries if not forgiveness. All right, we speaking of
35:00
from one billionaire to the next to this is our country.
35:03
We we've covered Jeff Bezos completely shipping all over the
35:07
Washington Post, But what about South African Los Angeles Times
35:12
billionaire owner Patrick Soon Shung? Yeah, who is doing something?
35:19
I mean, I don't know genius something this is. I
35:24
just want to give the backdrop because now, remember than
35:27
when the LA Times were like, we're not gonna endorse
35:30
Kamala and his daughter came out and said it had
35:33
to do with Gaza. Yeah yeah it was. Now I'm like,
35:36
he's actually too far left for you guys. He's the
35:40
most far left billionaire you've ever met. And now with
35:42
this is I'm like, far far left South African billionaire
35:47
out there, which means you're just you're not a Nazi,
35:50
You're more I guess a clan member. I guess it's
35:54
how that would work well, which makes sense because so
35:56
Patrick soon Shang is doing something even more howardly than
36:00
bezos to the op eds. He's touting a new AI
36:03
bot as a way to bring quote balance to opinion pieces.
36:07
So this is something he tweeted out with this new
36:09
feature that is going to go along with certain articles
36:11
to give people just a taste of like if there's
36:13
bias or just counterplat say quote.
36:15
Speaker 3
Now the voice in perspective from all sides can be heard, seen,
36:20
and read.
36:21
Speaker 1
No more echo chamber thanks to our talented content management
36:25
software team running this Graphene platform. So essentially, you read
36:29
an op ed, users can click to generate a summary
36:31
of the op ed, and then that AI summary can
36:34
provide fucking counterpoints to that to help someone understand that
36:39
the KKK was not bad. Well, that's what actually happened.
36:45
It was a cultural movement, miles. What else do you
36:49
need to know? Yes? What books are you scraping for
36:52
these answers? Ay? I?
36:53
Speaker 3
So columnist Gustavo Ariano, he put a road a piece
36:57
in the La Times about the City of Anaheim's deep
37:00
eyes to the Ku Klux Klan and that the city
37:02
council missed an opportunity to grapple with that sordid past
37:06
when they didn't acknowledge the one hundred year anniversary of
37:09
said city council ousting clan members. They're like, nope, can't
37:13
be here anymore.
37:14
Speaker 1
Sorry. But he's a pretty straightforward opinion piece. You know,
37:16
he's giving analysis on a historical fact and then adding
37:20
the pot we should maybe be proud of fighting against
37:23
like authoritarianism and institutional open racism at a time when
37:27
that is skyrocketing around the country, Like maybe maybe this
37:31
would have been a nice thing to remember that people
37:34
used to have courage and remember you can just do
37:37
this thing and just say, well, that's just like your opinion, man.
37:41
But is that what this is aid? No, the AI
37:44
added this tidbit that everyone's like, why is it caping
37:46
for the clan? Quote. Local historical accounts occasionally framed the
37:49
nineteen twenties Klan as a product of quote white Protestant
37:53
culture responding to societal changes, rather than an explicitly hate
37:57
driven movement, minimizing its ideological threat. So they were responding
38:02
to societal changes. Really, in many ways, they were following
38:06
the teachings of Jesus's that's what that was all about.
38:13
White product. First of all, a product of white Protestant
38:17
culture implies so much white supremacy that to suggests that
38:22
that's it's just this rewording of white supremacy.
38:27
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, yeah, white responding to societal changes. So it's
38:31
a product of racists responding to demographic racial demographic shifts
38:36
around them and realizing that violence was the answer to
38:40
try and preserve their small worldview.
38:42
Speaker 1
But yeah, minimizing its ideological threat. I do like that.
38:46
I mean they basically described so some people use this
38:50
wording to minimize how scary it seems, but it's still
38:54
white supremacy. They just don't say that part. Yeah yeah,
38:56
of course, of course that's so AI. This is good stuff.
39:00
Speaker 3
Can I imagine someone just write an op ed about
39:03
this civil war, so this stupid fucking robot will be
39:06
like if this is a this is a disagreement about
39:08
economic priorities and nothing else to see. That's the whole thing.
39:13
Speaker 1
We'll move on.
39:15
Speaker 3
The feature, though, was taken down after I think someone
39:18
at the Times bothered to see what this fucking thing
39:20
was even saying to people, But many other journalists pointed
39:23
out very quickly, so they took it down and the
39:25
cool shit, but it's still up on other portions of
39:28
the La Times website. I think, you know, some people
39:31
are reporting it as like an l for the La Times.
39:33
But this is exactly what these billionaire pricks want. They
39:36
want to obscure facts. So as long as people come
39:40
away with a narrative that normalizes inequality, then we're good.
39:44
Speaker 1
Then we're good. That's kind of even if it even
39:47
if it goes against maybe what I believe a certain point,
39:50
it's better to have people completely in disagreement over the
39:53
most basic things so they can't sort of coalesce around
39:55
the theme about maybe just wealth hoarding and who's to
39:59
blame for that.
40:00
Speaker 5
There's an agenda here, it's I mean, we're being told that, oh,
40:03
it's to provide a balance perspective, but you know what,
40:06
some things do we really need a balanced perspective over,
40:09
like to where you know, do we need to warm
40:13
up towards the KKK?
40:14
Speaker 4
Is that necessary? But what's scary is some people might.
40:18
Speaker 3
Say yeah, yeah, no, of course and I think for
40:20
people to say, like for I'm sure one of the
40:23
biggest impediments for these like rabid white supremacists, like people
40:28
like still give a fuck about each other. That's the
40:31
biggest problem. Like we're not just willing to all the
40:34
time throw people on the wastepile. I mean, we very
40:36
much are in certain respects, but.
40:38
Speaker 1
I think being able to give people the logic to
40:42
like sort of attach themselves to these really hateful ideologies
40:45
without it like sort of in its face being like
40:48
this is hateful ideology. It's like, no, I'm a Nazi
40:51
because of societal changes I'm responding to right, And that's
40:56
why Nazism, I think gets a bad rap is kind
40:59
of like this sort of the way they want to
41:01
sort of normalize this kind of thing, because that's one
41:03
of the biggest things. It's just funny that Nazi is
41:05
such a bad like loaded word in American culture that
41:09
even Republicans say it to attack Democrats, like so you
41:13
know it is bad, Like you only say that because
41:15
you know it is bad. But okay, go on, go on,
41:19
yes it's bad, but we're not allowed to wave like
41:22
they did. Come on, I mean, yeah, yes, free speech
41:27
pre speech.
41:28
Speaker 4
We still got the thumbs down.
41:29
Speaker 1
We have the thumbs down. They get to do nothing.
41:32
So if you're gonna give a thumbs down to me
41:35
and my sick car, I at least get to do
41:38
a Nazi salute, Okay, I would do if.
41:41
Speaker 3
How horrifying that would be if like a like a
41:43
if people just walk around Wall Street just giving every
41:46
dude in a suit of thumbs down, like like they
41:49
just pull up like in their way.
41:50
Speaker 1
Just go. I mean, we take them to their core.
41:54
We talked yesterday about how ineffectual and scattered the Democratic
41:58
Party's response to Trump's speech was. If they had all
42:02
just showed up fucking and just given the silent dead
42:08
thumbs down, yeah, yeah the whole time. Yeah, it would
42:13
have been so stupid, Like I kind of would have
42:15
liked it would have been more unified than whatever the
42:18
fuck that ship was on Tuesday. Yeah, the PLA so sad.
42:23
We're like, maybe they can fight the fascist off with
42:26
the thumbs down kind of, and that's an improvement on
42:29
what we saw.
42:31
Speaker 4
Oh, we got some elbows.
42:34
Speaker 1
The whole going down so hard. When I was doing
42:42
it as a five year old, I was like, fool
42:43
body ship was bruised and ship after Yeah, just dislocating
42:49
my shoulders. Given the frequency of you doing that, So
42:52
what did you give like one car like five? Yeah?
42:57
You gun fire semi automatic? U middle finger? What is
43:04
that gesture called? It's not the middle finger, it's the
43:06
up years, I guess would be what it's called up
43:10
yours with two thirds of my arms. I'm trying to see, like,
43:16
what is no? Seriously, let me put two thirds of
43:18
my arm up your ass.
43:20
Speaker 4
I mean that's one way to say.
43:21
Speaker 1
I love you, That's exactly, And that's what I tried
43:24
to explain to my mom and she's not having it. Mom,
43:29
What better way to express my love for our neighbors?
43:33
I suppose I spoke like a forty eight year old
43:36
guy from Brooklyn when I was five. Ma, come on, ma,
43:43
really all right, let's uh, let's take a quick break
43:49
and we'll be right back. And we're back. We're we're back.
44:04
Could see, Oh hey, what's going on up in Canada? Canada? Canada?
44:12
So just an unintended outcome of Donald Trump's five D
44:18
chess that is actually like half a dimension.
44:22
Speaker 4
I feel like like one dimensions.
44:27
Speaker 1
Yeah, but like five D chess implies he's playing chess
44:31
five moves in advance, and I think he is not
44:35
even thinking about the move he's making as he's making it.
44:38
I think it's less No, he's moving the chess pieces
44:41
on a board or they're like, bro, you can't do that.
44:44
Paun can't move like a queen. Bro, yeah, I can't watch.
44:47
It's like, bro, you you're gonna lose that, all right, final,
44:50
I'll do this. And he's like that's not a good movie. Oh,
44:53
we'll see, we'll see. And then he just puts a
44:55
handgun on the table and says, I can't. Oh yeah,
44:58
oh no, that's a toy. That's clearly a toy gun.
45:01
It's got the whole thing there, all right. So he
45:06
is basically and maybe there is an argument to be
45:09
made that this is a successful five D chest thing,
45:12
because the only thing that's going to keep fascism alive
45:14
is the continued survival of like neolib shit, you know, right,
45:19
So maybe maybe this is five I feel like this
45:22
is what he's just like knocking shit over and it
45:25
just keeps turning up like fucking aces for him. I'm
45:29
just mixing all my board all my table games here. Yeah,
45:32
but uh, so a few months ago, Trudeau announced he
45:36
was resigning. A new party leader would be chosen, with
45:39
an election happening at some point later this year. His
45:43
unpopularity was like unprecedented. People were just completely out on
45:47
his bullshit. Much very similar to Biden. It was just
45:52
he was incredibly unpopular. His policies like this sort of
45:58
neoliberal goal of being like, hey, we want to help you.
46:02
Here are some policies that help you, and then they
46:04
ultimately just are means for funneling wealth towards wealthy people
46:09
and corporations. People were like, fuck this, maybe we need
46:15
and so the stage was set for a massive liberal defeat,
46:20
much like we saw in the US. I know, the
46:23
margins weren't massive, but like when you take into account
46:27
like what should have happened given Trump what platform? Yeah,
46:33
it was really a massive defeat and complete fuck up
46:35
by the Democratic Party. So now though that Trump has
46:40
come into office and has threatened Canada with all in
46:45
every way basically I mean very implied implied military threats
46:49
of being like we're gonna you're gonna be our fifty
46:51
first state. But obviously the big one is the economic tariffs.
46:56
He has come back and been like that this guy's
46:59
inn asshole. You know. He like did a direct address
47:03
to Americans was like I'm sorry you're doing this to yourself,
47:07
and that has been incredibly popular in Canada. Everybody is like, uh, well,
47:15
I guess the election used to be about like domestic
47:17
Canadian policies, but now it's all about fending off threats
47:21
posed by the Trump administration. Their numbers has like shot.
47:24
Speaker 4
Up nothing like a common enemy.
47:26
Speaker 1
Ye yeah, exactly, totally to bring the.
47:28
Speaker 5
People together, right yeah, I mean it's the best thing
47:31
that happened to Trudeau.
47:32
Speaker 1
It is wild when like I just you know, as
47:34
our elections are happening all like Canadian Z that game,
47:37
we're like, we're right behind you, We're right behind you,
47:40
We're about to go We're about to flop to the
47:42
right also, and then it's just like it's just wild
47:46
how the emergence of this shithead Trump immediately like what
47:50
the fuck like and it just sort of immediately has
47:53
people been like, right, hold on a second, this guy
47:56
is a fucking loser and dangerous and all the people
48:00
that are parroting that shit like in our country like
48:02
this is it cannot lead down? Ever is going on?
48:05
So The person who was like favored to take over
48:07
for Trudeau was the head of the Conservative Party, Pierre
48:12
Pollievit Pollievvy, Polly every poll Evry, Pierre poly Evry. I
48:18
don't know why he's Italian Pierre. He was, you know,
48:23
poised to coast to victory and now has completely had
48:26
to revamp his strategy because his you know, in the
48:31
run up to our election, like the thing he was
48:34
that was giving him strength was that he was being
48:37
repeatedly referred to as Canada's Trump. Yeah, and now that's
48:41
not good for him now that Trump has had a
48:44
chance to be really bad at his job in the
48:47
eyes of everyone, except for like the thirty percent of
48:50
Americans who voted for him, you know, they're like, whoa,
48:53
that that might be a very bad thing. It's it
48:56
is interesting though, too.
48:57
Speaker 3
Everything Trump does has this weird effect also doing the
49:00
opposite thing if he wants like where he's like, well,
49:02
I abandoned Ukraine and now Europe's like, bro, we need
49:05
to fucking we need to cut these Americans out of
49:07
the conversation because they're gonna fucking destroy everything and like
49:11
fuck fuck all this so and has like a shit,
49:14
they're all getting each other's backs.
49:16
Speaker 1
Now this is different, and now with Canada, Trudeau merely
49:20
just being like, this is some bullshit, guys, and it
49:23
was like, yeah, we're back, We're back, and Mike, look,
49:28
a word of warning to the Canadians, man, do not
49:32
let the presence of an aspiring fascist turn into a
49:36
neoliberal honeymoon. Okay, the Democratic Party should have taken the
49:41
biggest like a bigger l over what happened in twenty sixteen,
49:45
But the presence of Trump made everyone nostalgic for the
49:48
before times. They completely lost sight of like what what
49:52
was ailing society and what actually needed to be addressed.
49:55
So take the opportunity if you can. Now, I don't know,
49:58
I'm not gonna be but theoretically you could drive a
50:03
stake into the heart of right wing extremism and meet
50:06
people's needs. Okay, because if.
50:09
Speaker 3
You let the rot of inequality continue, the fungus that
50:12
is authoritarianism rule will have the perfect environment to replicate
50:16
and thrive in and you're just gonna end up being
50:19
the same place we are down the road. Like it's
50:21
not gonna be enough to be like, oh thank god
50:24
he's standing up to it. You now have to take
50:26
the opportunity to like just fucking learn from this. It's
50:29
because the Democrats did fuck all to address the needs
50:33
of the people at the expense of the donor class
50:36
that we're in this mess that we're in right now.
50:38
And also just ideologically, it's impossible for them to bite
50:41
the hand that feed, So we were fucked either way.
50:43
But Canada, you already got a leg up on America
50:46
in a few ways in terms of how you're treating
50:48
your people.
50:49
Speaker 1
So just I'm just it'll come back, though, if you know,
50:55
if not cares, shit will come right back.
50:57
Speaker 3
They are waiting for material conditions to be enough for
51:00
people to be like, yeah, fucking destroy everything that.
51:03
Speaker 1
I wonder if we're gonna be able to if the
51:05
US is going to be able to get out of that,
51:06
because it is it does feel like the only thing
51:10
that can make the idea of sort of that corporatocracy.
51:15
But democrat look good is what Trump is doing, you know,
51:19
like he's doing the exact thing to make people be like,
51:24
I mean, I guess back to the other thing, and
51:26
Biden was fine, like yeah, I guess, No, it wasn't
51:30
and it's not now, And I think that's you know
51:33
if I like you think like the most cynical of
51:35
democratic strategies would be going to these billionaires be like, look, dude,
51:38
we need all y'all to like do token donations to
51:43
bring your cred back up and and make people feel
51:46
like you contribute to society. Just fucking just do these
51:50
token offerings to just fucking bring the temperature down a
51:53
little bit and say you're okay with that, and then
51:55
we can if you're okay with just a little bit
51:57
more taxes, we can just do some stuff that'll keep
52:00
them at bay before they all fucking turn off us.
52:04
That's but they can't even do that. They're just like,
52:07
but Trump's bad. So you're like, well that, okay. There
52:11
goes any opportunity to do anything, even the most cynical sense,
52:14
to try and keep the fucking powers that be in power,
52:18
because I mean, the road inevitably just ends this way, right,
52:21
So yeah, all these countries have the entire economically populist
52:27
lane to go down where you can create policies that
52:34
actually benefit people instead of corporations. And by the way,
52:37
corporations are people too, So Miles, when you said Joe
52:39
Biden didn't do things for people, you were meeting out
52:42
a big chunk of the population. Thank you. I will
52:47
refer to you your honor, no further answers, your honor.
52:50
But it's just so wild that like they are leaving
52:55
this huge lane that has like proven to be popular
52:59
in the past, with the Sanders campaign coming out of
53:02
nowhere in twenty sixteen, doing remarkably well in twenty eighteen.
53:06
But again, like to your point, I think people just
53:09
lost their nerve because they were like, well, we got
53:11
to beat him, and Sanders isn't gonna win, Like this
53:14
is not a time to be taking chances. This Trump
53:16
guy's pulling indicates that he could. Yeah, yeah, exactly, like
53:20
everybody's playing game.
53:22
Speaker 5
I mean, do you think that they, the Democrats, those
53:26
in power, he didn't want to bite the hand that
53:28
feeds them, actually would rather have Trump than Bernie.
53:32
Speaker 1
That's a great question. I mean probably, yeah, I think
53:35
they probably know that Trump is better for there. They
53:40
are so distinct from what, you know, what Bernie Sanders
53:46
and like, you know, the the idea of a progressive
53:49
politics that actually like is focused on helping people. That yeah,
53:53
I don't I don't think there's anything about Bernie Sanders
53:58
that appeals to me in stream Democrats, whereas with Trump
54:02
it gives them something to in theory, you know, fundrate.
54:07
I was gonna say, like, in theory, run against but
54:10
it's not even really running, it's just fundraising.
54:13
Speaker 4
Do you know?
54:13
Speaker 1
I got so many fucking texts during that address, begging
54:18
texts from the Democrats, you know what I mean, Like
54:21
they're still they're so caught in their ways. They're like, yeah, fine, man,
54:23
we'll just like people be freaked out again and maybe
54:25
we can get more money. Although now I think they're
54:27
realizing people are so fucking disheartened by everything. Yeah, there's
54:32
the money ain't flown in like it used to. They're
54:34
willing to try anything except the uh Bernie Sanders thing
54:38
that would actually work, because that is Yeah. I mean,
54:42
it's just it's the thing that we saw with Biden
54:45
coming up against certain things and being like a what
54:48
can I do?
54:49
Speaker 7
Man?
54:49
Speaker 1
I'm trying over here, and it's like, what's the unspoken thing?
54:53
You're not saying what what are you trying? And not
54:55
able to like, yes, there's Republicans in Congress, but it's
54:58
also what do you want me to do? Up end
54:59
this status quo? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, And I think that's
55:03
it's the basic thing.
55:04
Speaker 3
I mean, like, going forward, the only people who will
55:07
be worth listening to or voting for are people who
55:11
can just very simple premise. The status quo is violent,
55:14
and it's killing people, and it's every it's making everyone unhappy,
55:17
their meet their needs aren't being met, and we're so
55:20
far removed from like the even what people call like
55:23
the good old days when people could have like even
55:27
like my grandmother like was a fucking switchboard operator and shit,
55:32
and my grandfather drove a bus. Like they were able
55:35
to do shit and have a house even being black
55:38
like that, shit was kind of possible even then. We're
55:40
so far from that in the progressive tax policy that
55:43
we had then, we're just so if you're not if
55:45
you're not willing to come to the table and be like,
55:47
hey guys, everything that's been happening for the last few decades, we.
55:51
Speaker 1
Have to reverse course on all of this. But that
55:54
is just far too extreme a mess, like perceived as
55:57
far to extreme a message from again the stakeholders of
56:01
our media and things like that, that it's just it's
56:05
but that's really what it is. Someone who's like we
56:07
just need to change a couple of things. No, we don't.
56:09
We need to change fucking so many things. And if
56:11
you're not really saying that with your whole chest, don't
56:13
waste people's time. Tweak the messaging. Tweak the messaging. Yeah,
56:17
but thank you at that kind of stuff, right yeah,
56:20
all right, Uh fizz A, what a pleasure having you
56:23
back on the show. Thank you so much for joining.
56:25
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
56:28
Speaker 5
Thank you so much for having me. It's always a pleasure.
56:31
I can be found on the internet along with most people,
56:34
uh say, at physitals, on Instagram, TikTok, uh, threads, x face, Twitter,
56:48
We don't say we say Twitter.
56:49
Speaker 1
We say Twitter, and we say Twitter.
56:52
Speaker 4
Yeah yeah, physic dot com. And then also check out
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Facial Recognition Comedy.
56:57
Speaker 5
It's a show that I host monthly that I run
57:00
with Paul Viganalan who's also been on this show, and
57:03
Tzar Ali. Our next show is March twenty first. It's
57:07
usually a third Friday of the month at the comedy Store,
57:09
So check it out. And uh yeah, it features a
57:12
bunch of comics were not the same person?
57:15
Speaker 1
Oh wow?
57:16
Speaker 4
Yeah, okay, drownd comics that we all get mistaken for
57:20
each other. Guys, girls, you know it doesn't matter.
57:23
Speaker 1
I like, no, that's okay, never mind.
57:27
Speaker 4
It's funny though.
57:28
Speaker 5
It's a funny show and we have different comics every
57:31
month and it's I mean, it's it's nuts nice.
57:36
Speaker 1
Is there a work a media you've been enjoying?
57:39
Speaker 4
There are Oh yeah, yeah, I got this. I saw
57:41
this tweet that just took me back.
57:44
Speaker 1
Let me fine?
57:45
Speaker 4
Oh yeah yeah.
57:46
Speaker 5
So on Twitter, Trash Jones aka at jay z u
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X said about three days ago, by age thirty, you
57:55
should have one harrowing friendship breakup that you talk about
57:58
with the fragile stoicism of the Vietnam veteran, And that
58:03
just hit me.
58:05
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, I got one. I could think of, Yeah,
58:08
you don't got one. You're not living with enough and
58:11
I don't have one. So I'm not living and I
58:14
don't have it because I don't set healthy boundaries. I don't.
58:18
I'm saying mind came as a result of like a therapist,
58:21
You're like, you shouldn't actually set boundaries with people. I'm like,
58:23
what cut to I hear the choppers flying overhead, amazing miles.
58:32
Where can people find you as their working media, you've
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been enjoying, Ye find me everywhere. They got as symbols
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at miles of gray g r a y not g
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r e y. I know we habitually spell gray like
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g r e y, but it's g r a y,
58:45
and I love when people spell like this always happens.
58:49
Speaker 3
You got the handle right to talk to me, but
58:52
then you spell my full name g r e y.
58:54
I'm like, I get it at auto fills, but anyway.
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research in today's episode. We also like to link off
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to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
1:00:25
is there a song that you think people might enjoy?
1:00:28
I think there's a song that people might enjoy. So
1:00:31
there is a band I really like call men I Trust.
1:00:34
We've gone out on this track before called Billy Toppy,
1:00:37
but the men I Trust just put out like a
1:00:39
live sessions album, and the live version is also really good.
1:00:43
It's like one of those.
1:00:44
Speaker 3
Kind of driving, kind of like rock tracks. I really
1:00:47
like the just picked driving, humming bass on this one.
1:00:52
But yeah, it's also a super good live track. So
1:00:54
this is men I Trust Billy Toppy the live version.
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Speaker 1
All right, we will link off to that in the
1:01:01
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