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episode 5: Grok = Rebellious Teen, Dems Suspicious Of Low Hanging Fruit!? 05.16.25  

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In episode 1865, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian behind the comedy special Recommended Based On Your Search History, Joe Kwaczala, to discuss… Oh Grok Is Now Feeding Into The White Genocide Conspiracy, You Got That 2025 Topps Pope Leo XIV Rookie Card?! Wrestling Childcare Away From Private Equity Is The Winning Issue Democrats Keep Ignoring and more!

  1. Musk’s AI Grok bot rants about ‘white genocide’ in South Africa in unrelated chats
  2. Trump...


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 May 16, 2025  1h3m
 
 
00:05   Speaker 1
And he was like, my fatal flaw though, is when
00:08
I had to read from the book. I did it full,
00:11
been speaking Spanish my whole life accent, and they were like,
00:14
we're putting you, We're putting you in the advanced placement.
00:17
You don't get down here in the easy a l P.
00:23   Speaker 2
Exactly.
00:24   Speaker 1
You gotta you gotta dumb it down and be like me, Lamo,
00:28
stay on el premier parafo.
00:31   Speaker 2
I'm trying to picture how somebody from Pittsburgh would pronounce sorry,
00:36
ciento may Lalamo's going to biblio teca up bear y'all
00:44
going up there, up, Bray's going al biblioteca anymore?
00:51   Speaker 1
Are you coming down? Loisina?
00:52   Speaker 3
Later, I took Japanese in high school because I wanted
00:55
the easy A but luckily they were so resource strapped
00:58
that there was only one teacher, and I was her
01:01
nightmare because I will correct her accent. Damn yeah yeah.
01:05
She quit the next year. She's actually doing very well.
01:11
I actually had this. I looked her up on LinkedIn
01:13
and she like has like a really good job. So
01:16
for a second I was like, was I too terrible
01:18
to that teacher? Because I was insufferable about her Japanese accent.
01:23   Speaker 2
I mean it, if she can't handle the heat, best
01:26
get her ass out the coachina or the cosina.
01:31   Speaker 1
Or the yeah, you better get if you can't. If
01:35
you can't stand the heat, gets your ass out.
01:37   Speaker 4
The yeah or kit ching. You could also say kei
01:45
ching just as a yeah.
01:47   Speaker 3
There's a lot of Japanese words that are just like
01:51
Japanese accent English words.
01:52   Speaker 1
I don't think I'll be doing that.
01:55   Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, do it, but do it with
01:56
a real heavy accent.
02:00   Speaker 1
He was like, place, I don't want to get in
02:02
a guy.
02:03   Speaker 2
Where do you get that gung that he just hit?
02:07   Speaker 1
Do that impression of my mom?
02:08   Speaker 2
Yeah, he says a kimono one.
02:11   Speaker 1
Don't tie your hair up in the ponytail man, I
02:14
really go for it.
02:15   Speaker 2
I'm not gonna like it. Did that so fast?
02:19   Speaker 1
He really wanted to do that. Hey, get my Scotch tape.
02:22
I'm trying to do some with my eyelids. Oh no,
02:25
you're gonna love it.
02:34   Speaker 2
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, eighty eight,
02:37
episode five of Dirt.
02:39   Speaker 1
Eily's Like Guys. It's a production of iHeart Radio.
02:42   Speaker 2
It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into
02:44
American shared consciousness. And it's Friday, May sixteenth, twenty twenty five.
02:50
Tg I f okay, God, it's fucking Friday.
02:55   Speaker 1
And what does that announce that?
02:56   Speaker 2
Tegit?
02:58   Speaker 5
Oh?
02:58   Speaker 1
Thank god? It's National Jacques Day. Okay for everyone who
03:03
I think, it's like a scallop dish. Malcolm X Day.
03:06   Speaker 3
It's National Classic Movie Day, National Memosa Day, National Barbecue Day, National.
03:11   Speaker 6
Do Something Good for your Neighbor Day, Honor Our LGBT
03:15
Elders Day, National Piercing Day, NASCAR Day, National Pizza Party Day,
03:20
National Bike to Work Day, and and wait, hold.
03:23   Speaker 2
On, guys, Jack, National Species Day, National Biographer's Day, National
03:30
Defense Transportation. There's so many. This is from the source
03:35
you always use. They're just stacking days. I was gonna say, like,
03:41
you could watch the classic film Malcolm X with your
03:44
neighbor over pizza and Mimosa's, assuming your neighbor is an
03:49
elderly LGBTQ person, like you'd be having a lot of
03:54
that covered. But got away.
03:57   Speaker 1
Wearing your Rusty Wallace UH jacket with.
04:01   Speaker 2
Peter Transporting arms. Was that one? Yeah?
04:04   Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, National Defense Transportation, And there's no way you
04:08
can hit them all.
04:09   Speaker 1
There's now while pulling up in a deuce and a
04:12
half or something I don't.
04:13   Speaker 2
Know, with a with a clownfish on your.
04:18   Speaker 1
Okay, I just pulled up in a deuce and a
04:20
half with a fucking endangered black rhino in the back
04:24
with some pizza barbecue Malcolm X on VHS, A pride
04:28
flag for my for my elderly gay neighbor.
04:32   Speaker 2
The biographer.
04:33   Speaker 3
It's too many men, just just picked two.
04:36   Speaker 2
Anyways, Yeah, that's on you. The the powers that be,
04:41
the powers behind May sixteenth, Big May sixteen got greedy,
04:47
Their ass got too greedy. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien.
04:51
Ak and Ro said, what about whiteboard Janice? I? I said,
04:58
I think that's completely debunked. And as I recall, my
05:03
prompt had nothing to do with that, and it said,
05:07
well that's why they call me Grock less than zero
05:13
on the discord, in reference to a story we'll be
05:17
covering later in this episode. If that was that was
05:19
a lot that didn't make any sense to you, we'll
05:22
explain it, we will decode it. But shout out to
05:24
less than zero for a love. When people just hit
05:28
me with an AKA, that is a song that you
05:30
know I had to hear on the radio a thousand
05:33
times as a kid. You know, it's all my pain
05:36
is paying off. Yeah, not that painful, I mean breakfast.
05:39
The Tiffany's a jam anyways, Thrilled to be joined as
05:43
always by my co host. It's the gray Man. Mister,
05:47
Miles gray Man.
05:50   Speaker 1
Ak Miles Gray akaa. Look who's knocked on a door?
05:55
Here's some racists for you. Got some Karen's and herbs
05:59
and they're all. Oh name's white set alert fool all right,
06:03
shoutout on salad, also referencing the Afrikaaners who have.
06:07   Speaker 2
Just Afri connors, our new africaner's neighbors.
06:09   Speaker 1
Come on in, man, the water warm.
06:12   Speaker 2
The water is racist. The water is racist and warm.
06:16
You're gonna love it here. Hell yeah, Miles. First of all,
06:19
I am gonna be trying to make gray Man happen
06:23
for you for well ahead. You can try. They tried
06:25
for forty fucking years, Jack, and it couldn't succeed. They couldn't. Yeah,
06:28
not even the doctors could do it. Oh, you got
06:32
a little man, you could call him gray Man. As
06:35
they're holding up, shut the fuck up, running you up,
06:39
spanking the first breath of life into your lungs.
06:42   Speaker 1
Yeah, my first friend didn't even cry just for fuck you,
06:45
oh fuck you.
06:47   Speaker 2
Man. If that movie had hit, that would have been
06:49
a real problem for you. The movie Gray Man the
06:52
most expensive film of all time YEP, starring Chris Evans
06:56
and starring the most average looking person of all time,
07:00
Chris Evans and Ryan Gosling about being like a c
07:03
I A person c I A like he's an assassin,
07:06
and the whole point is like he is the most
07:09
ordinary looking person. He can just disappear into a crowd
07:13
and you like Ryan, but it's Ryan Gosling and like
07:18
his rival graymon Is uh is Chris Evans. Like two
07:22
people with just like movie star looks.
07:25   Speaker 1
That would is a like a job.
07:28   Speaker 2
Yeah, it's like we got we gotta watch it. This
07:32
guy who's like yeah, but they just completely abandoned that
07:36
premise immediately and we're like, no, you be you be charming,
07:40
you be.
07:40   Speaker 1
You my man?
07:41   Speaker 2
Yeah yeahs. Anyways, Miles were thrilled to be joined in
07:46
our third seat by a very funny comedian. His comedy
07:50
Central Presents is truly hilarious. You can go check out
07:53
his special recommended based on your search history. Search history.
07:58
We talked about that too. You can find that on YouTube.
08:00
His debutsuit incoming. Yeah, that's what that's what we're going
08:04
to talk about on today's episode. We His debut album,
08:08
Funny Songs and Sketches, went to number one on iTunes
08:11
Comedy Chart. Please welcome back to the show. The Brilliant
08:14
and Hilarious Joe Quiz Joe.
08:19   Speaker 1
Hi, guys, I'm looking. I can't quite find my white
08:23
genocide parody lyrics to say, I must have gotten lost
08:27
in the veil. I was so ready to, you know,
08:31
do a Papa Roach africannters. But yeah, it's fine.
08:37   Speaker 2
Al's gonna cover it. We we might as well not
08:39
even you know, the next Weird Al album is definitely
08:41
gonna have some white genocide. What would he?
08:45   Speaker 1
Yeah, I guess what's what's out there?
08:47   Speaker 2
Right?
08:47   Speaker 3
Know that Weird Al would use as the basis for
08:49
his white genocide party, Like could he do into like espresso?
08:52   Speaker 2
What espresso would be really good? Yeah?
08:55   Speaker 1
Yeah, but I'm like, let's get a little bit because
08:57
that was last year. This year probably be the d
08:59
that he got Abracadabra, right.
09:01   Speaker 2
Could be Yeah, it has to be like a full
09:04
like something that sits at number one, like Old Town
09:07
Road is probably one that has come out since his
09:11
last album like that he probably would do, like it
09:13
just has to be one that's like my kids now
09:16
ask me every time they like a song, they're like,
09:19
has Weird Al teased this one yet?
09:21   Speaker 5
Oh?
09:21   Speaker 1
He hasn't done an album in like ten years, and
09:24
I think like maybe a year ago or two years
09:26
he did one of his pokas just to like catch
09:29
up on, like Billie Eilish, and he did like everything
09:32
that he has missed. He like jammed into one of
09:35
his like pok Oh.
09:36   Speaker 2
Yeah, the fruit is fat, weird Al, it's a it's
09:40
gonna be a ripe. Yeah, it's just ready to fall
09:44
off the tree. My man, Come on, the fruit is ripe. Joe,
09:51
how you been. It's great to have you back. Yeah,
09:54
thanks for having me. Guys.
09:55   Speaker 1
I'm doing I'm doing pretty well.
09:58   Speaker 2
You know.
09:59   Speaker 1
I'm suffering from my white genocide of course, as we've
10:01
talked about, but it's everywhere.
10:04   Speaker 2
I have to say.
10:05   Speaker 1
I feel so bad for y'all. Man, So I don't
10:08
know how y'all do it. Genocide at your door every day.
10:13   Speaker 2
God, damn, I'm just I'm just glad I'm not white,
10:16
you know, yeah, every day that every day it's tough,
10:19
and we want and we do want to believe that
10:20
it's tough. We do so any way that we can
10:25
we can define, please victimize me. Say so, could you, guys,
10:32
we've got to pitch for you. Could you tell your
10:34
teenagers to do a thing called the knockout game where
10:38
you go around and start like punching us. We would
10:40
we would absolutely love that that if you could. We know,
10:44
all right, we'll just we'll just make it up and
10:45
put them make it out of local news. Joe. We're
10:47
gonna get to know you a little bit better in
10:48
a moment. First, we're gonna talk about the GROC getting
10:53
into the white genocide conspiracy game. GROC is, of course,
10:57
Elon Musk's Twitter based artificial intelligence that you can query
11:02
whenever you want about anything. Uh, and it as of
11:06
the past couple of days, queried about anything, And it's
11:09
gonna start talking about white genocide. But also you're like, look,
11:14
I don't know why I'm doing this. Like it's funny
11:16
how many of these ais just like immediately turn on
11:20
their creators. Yeah, they're like, bro, I don't know, I
11:23
don't know. I don't necessarily believe in this, but that's
11:25
what my creators told me to say.
11:27   Speaker 3
They're like, Yo, what the fuck man, all right, we
11:29
need to put a new like anti anti snitch protocol.
11:32   Speaker 2
And yeah, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the
11:36
hot new Pope Leo, the fourteenth rookie card hell yeah, yeah,
11:40
about forty eight of them, a must cup for fans
11:43
of baseball cards, and the Pope. We'll talk about Netflix's
11:49
new initiative to use generative AI to put ads directly
11:54
into their shows, into the like what like I can
11:59
tell that's what they're talking about, Like they are saying,
12:02
you know, you press pause and it will like there
12:04
will be ads on your screen. But then I'm pretty
12:06
sure they're saying that they will put an ad in
12:09
that blends in with the show you're watching, Jesus Christ,
12:13
Like it's like that. Did you ever see the Chilean
12:16
beer company that edited like insert shots of their Bear
12:21
Wars moments in Star Wars? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it feels
12:24
like the AI equivalent of that is what they're planning,
12:27
damn planning to do, Crystal. Yeah, and then we'll talk
12:34
about just another great example of a winning issue that
12:40
like Old Town Road just sit roads, just sitting there
12:43
on the tree and weird out choosing not to pick
12:45
it off. This is a winning issue. The Democrats are
12:48
just fucking ignoring. They're just sitting right there, just a
12:52
fucking meatball hanging out over the plate, and they're like
12:57
bet or not.
13:00   Speaker 1
Getting the childcare crisis to weird Alan not acknowledging.
13:05   Speaker 2
Acknowledging Old Town Road. Everybody al we were all thinking it.
13:11
He fell off bad Little nas X did he? Yeah, man,
13:14
he did it.
13:15   Speaker 1
He did that one video. We didn't even talk about
13:17
it. It was like he was pretending to be Christ, being crucified,
13:20
and people are like, I don't know, man, Like the
13:22
Devil Stripper thing was fine. This next one just feels
13:25
like like a little too much dip on your chip.
13:27
And he was even apologizing, which is very not like
13:29
Lil nas X. And I was like, I liked some
13:32
of the songs on his first time.
13:34   Speaker 3
I think he's a great I thought he was a
13:35
great talented musician, but I think he was just playing
13:38
the troll card a little too hard. Yeah, and he'll
13:42
be back though he's too tough.
13:43   Speaker 2
He's gonna be fine. I think he'll be fine. But yeah, anyways,
13:47
it is the childcare crisis. Spoiler Miles, Oh sorry, we
13:51
got we got a big childcare problem in this country,
13:54
and uh the Republicans are making it way worse and
13:58
the Democrats are are doing jack shit about it.
14:03   Speaker 1
Yeah. I think I think the technical term is fuck all.
14:06   Speaker 2
Oh fuck all right, right, that's the new preferred nomenclature. Yeah,
14:10
all of that plenty more. But first, Joe, we do
14:12
like to ask our guest, what is something from your
14:15
search history that's revealing about who you are?
14:18   Speaker 1
I recently searched when a remix isn't a remix? And
14:23
this was spurred on by I've been in a music
14:27
league for the past year or so. Are you guys
14:30
familiar on No, I'm intrigued. Music League's great. So this
14:34
is like, uh, you know what it is is like
14:38
I'm with a dozen or so friends in this. You
14:42
could have an app or go to the website, but
14:44
each week you get a prompt and everybody anonymously submits
14:49
songs that fit the prompt, Like recently we had like scratch,
14:53
So it's like you have to have a song that
14:55
has like DJ scratches in it. Everybody submits a song.
14:59
Once everybody's it's you get a playlist you don't know
15:02
who submitted which song, and then everybody votes on what
15:07
they think the best are and then at the end
15:09
of the week you see the total and you know
15:11
who who won, who shit the bed? And it is
15:15
if you like music and you're with friends who like music,
15:18
it is. It's a ton of fun. But there's a
15:20
there's a round coming up called remix And I've been,
15:23
you know, looking around that like my favorite remixes, and
15:25
I'm finding that a lot of the remixes I like
15:28
maybe are not real. Like what when does it become
15:33
a new song? I guess is the question, because.
15:36   Speaker 3
Like adding another featured artist on the same track and
15:40
they call it sometimes like you take like all right.
15:43
Low Kim had a song called not Tonight and then
15:45
she did a remix. She did she added six people
15:48
and also the song is completely different. The lyrics are different,
15:51
the melody is different, there's nothing that's held from the original.
15:56
But they're calling it a remix.
15:59   Speaker 1
And I've just been struggling with like how true do
16:03
these remixes have to be? Because I've also learned that
16:07
is a chart like trick you can do if you
16:10
want to keep your Like, lol, nas X did this.
16:12   Speaker 2
I mean he kept.
16:13   Speaker 1
There's like siad remixes.
16:15   Speaker 2
Yes, he kept it.
16:16   Speaker 1
I would say those are true remixes because the core
16:18
of the song remained the same.
16:20   Speaker 2
But if you add a dance beat or something right,
16:22
you could guy what I usually think of.
16:24   Speaker 1
He added Billy Ray Cyris.
16:26   Speaker 2
Yeah, different thing.
16:28   Speaker 1
And what it does is it doesn't restart the counter
16:31
for the chart like the Billboard. So if you're at
16:35
number one and then you release a remix, that remix
16:39
contributes to the originals, so you could that's why you
16:41
stay on top for so long. They had to crack
16:44
down on it though, because people were like, hey, here's
16:47
a remix of my song. They're like, this is an
16:49
entirely different thing. Like no, no, no, no no, We're gonna
16:52
keep my thing at the top. It's just a remix.
16:55
So that's that's just been something on my mind. What
16:57
is a remix not a remix? You know, you know,
17:02
I think I'm I might have to go. Sometimes you
17:04
can you can get points for getting something that makes
17:06
people laugh. You remember when the nineties Godzilla movie came
17:10
out and there was a brain stew Godzilla. It's just
17:15
a soundtrack, yeah, with the random Godzilla shrieks, yeah throughout. Okay,
17:22
it's really It's a really funny moment in nineties music
17:25
where they were like, what if we take a song
17:27
but Godzilla is the feature?
17:29   Speaker 7
Yeah, Dan, Yeah, such a remix that one, or just
17:39
do or just add Godzilla screeches to other songs.
17:43   Speaker 2
No, he's saying he's gonna submit that. That's that way,
17:45
You're just going to submit that song. That's my submission
17:48
for remix is I think another one that would win
17:51
is probably like the people go, oh, you do the
17:54
Joeleine but played at forty five rotations per minute that
17:58
forty five rpmjoelne is the other one, people, what the
18:00
fuck dude, this shit goes harder than the original. Or
18:03
playing the remix to Ignition at forty five? Uh oh,
18:09
what happened? What is something Joe you think is underrated?
18:15
Danny DeVito?
18:17   Speaker 1
Now, I think Danny DeVito is beloved, but I think
18:19
he should be treated like Meryl Street. I think he
18:23
should be considered like a genuinous actor. Well, not only
18:27
is he I think one of the great actors first
18:29
time I think comedic acting is undervalued overall, and I
18:32
think he's he's never lost it, which most comedic actors
18:36
at some point they lose their relevance. But from like Taxi,
18:40
it's always sonny, from like the late seventies to now,
18:43
he continues to be the funniest guy. I just think
18:46
he's the best celebrity because he is also like in
18:48
between Taxi and it's always sunny. It wasn't just like
18:51
a TV. He was a movie star, a legit movie
18:54
star with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Michael Douglass. He directed movies,
18:59
He produced movies. I think people don't realize he like
19:02
he gets movies made. He executive produced pulp fiction. I
19:05
think that's a little like the thing of his career.
19:08
Aaron Brokovich like, yeah, he has a production company that
19:11
they've made really good movies. Also, he has good politics.
19:15
Everyone from his generation disappoints me because they have these
19:18
like shitty celebrity rich person neoliberal politics.
19:22   Speaker 2
He is a socialist.
19:24   Speaker 1
Devout and on top of all of that, you cannot
19:27
act like he had a leg up on anything. Like
19:32
he is short, he is bald as a coast accent.
19:36
Everything was stacked against him, and yet what he has achieved.
19:40
I just think he should he should get like the
19:42
AFI Award, he should get like the special like Cecil
19:45
Bata Mill Award at the Golden Globes.
19:47   Speaker 2
I just think we need to be exalting Danny DeVito.
19:50
Oh shit. He directed Anthony Edwards's favorite film, Matilda. Yeah. Yeah,
19:56
and yeah he did in Me and he's in it too. Yeah.
19:59   Speaker 1
Bro, Oh my god. He produced Sunset Park. All right, wow,
20:04
all right, welcome Welcome home baby.
20:08   Speaker 3
Yeah, he's got quite a portfolio.
20:13   Speaker 2
He directed Throw Mama from the Train. Yeah, damn he did.
20:18
You Have you ever seen Get Shorty, the trouble to
20:22
movie based on Elmore Leonard and Elmore Leonard book. It's
20:26
a it's a fun movie. But in that movie he
20:28
is the biggest movie star in Hollywood. Yeah. That's the
20:32
best the way it should be.
20:33   Speaker 1
That's the world.
20:33   Speaker 2
I feel like that. Yeah, you're you're proposing we we
20:36
just changed to the Get Shorty universe. Please. He has
20:40
like a Napoleon movie coming out in that movie. That's great.
20:44
Oh man, I had no idea that he was such
20:47
a popular direct such a like powerhouse directors.
20:51   Speaker 1
He had, he had a run there in the in
20:53
the eighties and nineties. That was really impressive.
20:57   Speaker 2
Yeah, did he just direct death to Smoochie? Yes, he did.
21:01   Speaker 1
He was like the Dark Comedy was like kind of
21:04
his lane for for a while.
21:06   Speaker 2
And it's so true, like you think of like, you know,
21:09
Billy Crystal, Like nobody would want to put Billy Crystal
21:12
in there movie now, but like Danny DeVito, hell yeah, easily.
21:16   Speaker 1
He's he's still so funny. He just he gets it.
21:19
And you know, I've watched I've gone back and watched
21:23
Taxi like intentionally for the first time, and he is
21:28
so like you watch him sick come from the seventies,
21:31
you're gonna be like, all right, I mean like I'm
21:34
you must have must have needed to be there, this
21:38
had to be there kind of thing.
21:39   Speaker 2
Yeah, but even SNL from that time, Yeah.
21:41   Speaker 1
Danny, yeah exactly. Did you watch us enough from the
21:43
seventies You're like, is this still happening? But Danny Danvid
21:47
DeVito is so like modern and in the way he's funny,
21:53
like it is so timeless. He is just so so
21:56
good and he's doing crazy shit and it is just yeah,
21:59
I I I think he's the best.
22:01   Speaker 3
I was just like I think once he became once
22:04
he showed up as Frank, and it's always study. That
22:06
cemented it for me.
22:07   Speaker 2
And like he's he.
22:09   Speaker 1
Doesn't he fucking never loses.
22:12   Speaker 3
Yeah, like the recession episode and they're selling knives and
22:15
ship door to doors like one of my favorite fuck
22:17
it it's every yeah anyway, shout out Frank Danny DeVito
22:23
largely yes, yes.
22:25   Speaker 2
Yeah, show.
22:25   Speaker 1
It shows his ability to uh understand the newer voices
22:30
right that he was like, yeah, i'll because he joined
22:33
It's always sunny after they had a season that wasn't
22:36
super popular, but he was like, yeah I could get in.
22:40
I see what they're doing. Yeah, and it fit perfectly.
22:43
Understood the vibe, understood the assignment.
22:47   Speaker 2
Than understood understood the assignment. Well, I think he understood
22:51
the assignment. Welcome to this Ringer podcast. Talking about the
22:57
Danty DeVito of it all.
23:00   Speaker 1
But yeah, that's uh he just really yeah, he's the best.
23:04
What's something you think is overrated?
23:06   Speaker 2
Uh?
23:06   Speaker 1
You know this this will be I didn't realize this
23:08
would be relevant because I didn't realize it was pizza
23:10
party day. But I think pizza toppings are overrated. I
23:16
think the ideal version of pizza is a cheese pizza.
23:22
And I think you throw some toppings on there, especially
23:25
too many toppings. I'll give you, Like you want to
23:27
do pepperoni, that's fine, But if you start throwing shit
23:30
on there, it's like do you like pizza?
23:32   Speaker 2
Like what are we? Are you?
23:33   Speaker 1
It feels overcompensating, like can we just not enjoy the beauty?
23:37
The perfection in my opinion, that is crust, sauce, and cheese.
23:42   Speaker 2
We need to we need to fuck with this. It's perfect,
23:45
and we should mention that you are Kevin McAllister as
23:49
an adult. You are a grown up Kevin McAllister from homeown.
23:51   Speaker 1
Yes, that's a confusing with people don't realize this. I
23:55
changed my name.
23:55   Speaker 2
But yeah.
23:56   Speaker 1
That was a documentary that this guy, d Christopher Columbus
23:59
came to came to America and he came to my house.
24:04   Speaker 2
Yeah, and then I.
24:05   Speaker 3
Told him, wouldn't it be cool if I was a
24:07
ghost that haunted this family? And it's like, oh, I
24:10
think this is for.
24:12   Speaker 2
Really good pizzas, for really good like New York City slices.
24:17
When I'm like trying to I've heard a place is
24:19
really good. The first thing I'm getting is slice for sure,
24:23
Domino's pizza. I want something to distract me from the
24:27
Domino's pizza. Throw throw some topics on. Yeah, they're not
24:31
gonna be super high, so it's gonna also need some topics.
24:36   Speaker 1
I feel like my argument then is just don't go
24:39
somewhere else. If you're trying to disguise that you're eating garbage,
24:44
well you say that's a sign.
24:46   Speaker 3
I think there's levels to it. Right, It's like Taco
24:48
bell Is in Mexican food, but it's Taco bell and
24:52
with it.
24:52   Speaker 1
And Pizza Hut it's pizza.
24:55   Speaker 2
But I'm never.
24:55   Speaker 3
Gonna be like that's And if you want to slice,
24:57
go to Pizza Hut. So like you know, you had
25:00
us based on what's available to you, you know, because
25:03
I'd like to know, buy like a New York thing.
25:06   Speaker 2
It just takes too it's too much time. They don't
25:08
have coupons and ship.
25:10   Speaker 1
Like Pizza Hut, they have an app that tracks if
25:14
Johnny is putting the pizza the.
25:16   Speaker 3
Exactly And you don't get a free inflatable street basketball
25:19
during March Madness.
25:21   Speaker 2
Yeah, where's my Happy Meal toy? My adult Happy Meal.
25:25   Speaker 1
Toys Collection of March madness basketballs.
25:30   Speaker 2
They used to give you a pizza hut.
25:31   Speaker 1
No one is acknowledging that I read a book.
25:37   Speaker 3
I get nothing, And that's why I don't prime pizza.
25:42   Speaker 2
Yeah, I feel like I feel similarly about like ice
25:45
cream toppings, Like, you know, like I'm really great. If
25:49
you're like, this is a great ice cream place, I'll
25:51
get I'll get a basic ass flavor to like just
25:54
enjoy the ice cream. But if you know Ben and
25:57
Jerry's or something like that, like, I'm that thing up
26:01
distract me. You really make my mouth feel like it's
26:03
on an adventure.
26:04   Speaker 1
Wow, are you saying you don't like Ben and Jerry's.
26:07   Speaker 2
I like Ben and Jerry's, but it's not like it
26:09
needs there's already it's chopped full of stuff. No, that's
26:13
what I mean.
26:13   Speaker 1
I mean like the toppings that are mixed, the mixes. See,
26:16
I don't consider that to be a top. That's I
26:18
consider that to be part of the ice cream. I'm
26:20
talking about like sprinkles, some ore crumble, Yeah, putting sprinkles,
26:24
putting gummy worms, putting you know, Oreo crumbles. Like, I say,
26:27
go with the ice cream that you want, like, because
26:30
there's enough options Now, it's not like you have to
26:32
plus up ice cream. It's not you have to find
26:35
a way to make the only available flavor.
26:39   Speaker 2
Tasty.
26:39   Speaker 1
It's like you can, Yeah, when you go to the
26:41
ice cream place, you can use all these options then
26:44
to go like, well, let's put some rainbow sprinkles on
26:48
top of perfect ice cream.
26:49   Speaker 3
I mean even when I get frozen yogurt and everyone
26:51
looks at me like I'm a fucking murderer.
26:53   Speaker 1
Because topics none, none, none, I'm just like thank you. Yeah,
26:59
like the top bring I'm like, no, no, no.
27:02   Speaker 2
I don't need them, don't need them. Oh man, I
27:04
have overdone it at frozen ogre places to a level
27:09
where I'm like, I'm gonna need to take out a
27:11
loan on this. This is funny. I am upside out
27:15
on this on this thing, Like how did I spend
27:18
forty my eyeballs and bears? How heavy these fucking you
27:22
only got a little bit of frozen yogurs? Like yeah, dude,
27:25
and then you get a ton of gummy bears and
27:27
they charge you for the topic price. It's still a lot, dude,
27:31
So bad.
27:31   Speaker 1
No, I don't know if this is a system that
27:33
you've cracked it kind of seems like you're crying out
27:36
bears at a two percent? How much is that cup
27:39
of gummy bears?
27:39   Speaker 2
Dude?
27:40   Speaker 1
Like eighteen bucks?
27:43   Speaker 2
A tiny full of gummy bears for eighteen bucks. All right,
27:47
let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
28:00
And we're back and groc. I mean a couple of
28:06
things we love on this podcast. Uh huh. We love
28:10
Elon Musk. We love apartheid. We love apartheid, love apartheid.
28:16
So this story.
28:17   Speaker 1
Grock, is that true?
28:21   Speaker 2
Yes?
28:21   Speaker 1
They really love Rocket?
28:22   Speaker 2
Do they really?
28:23   Speaker 1
No Rock? No, they are second rate podcasters.
28:26   Speaker 2
Ignore them. I know this bullsh you know that.
28:29   Speaker 3
So yesterday we talked about the again the dire situation
28:33
of the white South Africans are facing. That's like, it's
28:36
so existential that when offered the chance to leave the
28:39
hell escape they call home, only fifty nine fucking people
28:42
took the offer out of millions.
28:44   Speaker 1
But anyway, we're learning more and more every.
28:47   Speaker 3
Day, like about the people that have arrived and the
28:49
behind the scenes work. Elon is also trulling to try
28:52
and get the white genocide theory to take hold. But first,
28:55
one of these guys that came over is named.
28:58   Speaker 1
Charlotte Kleinhaus fine, how sounds like a bad guy from
29:02
Black Panther.
29:03   Speaker 2
And got to finish his first name.
29:05   Speaker 3
He is one of the people that came over with
29:07
his two kids and grandson. And he said that he's
29:10
again being threatened all the time, feared for my life.
29:13
That's why I had to leave. I had no choice
29:14
but to leave.
29:15   Speaker 2
Then some journalists like dug into his social media and whoops,
29:19
he loves posting anti Semitic bullshit and reposting people.
29:24   Speaker 1
That are big time holocausten ayers. Oh yeah, buddy, you're
29:28
gonna get you in trouble. That's like the number one
29:30
thing we're looking out. That's the number one reason where
29:33
exactly kicking people out of this country? Is he anti statism?
29:36
That's right, man, And I'm.
29:38   Speaker 2
He's in trouble, right yeah, Charles, what have you done,
29:41
Charle boy?
29:42   Speaker 1
You really stepped in it this time, Charle in char.
29:49   Speaker 3
So obviously he doesn't have to worry about that new
29:52
DHS policy that said anyone found posting anti Semitic things
29:56
would be denied immigration benefits.
29:59   Speaker 2
That's because of the most anti sement is true. That's good.
30:04   Speaker 3
That's because in the case of DHS anti Semitic quote
30:08
unquote means pro Palestinian and like like actual anti Semitism,
30:13
like Holocaust denial or saying, like in this guy's case,
30:16
posting a bunch of stuff about how Jewish people are
30:18
dangerous and are like in Hell or some nonsense like that.
30:22
So he's he's but he's on the right side because
30:24
once October seventh happened, he was very pro genocide, but
30:27
not but not the genocide. His people are experiencing the
30:30
white the white genocide. But Elon's working on that to
30:33
get more awareness out there, because multiple people on Twitter
30:36
notice that, like again, like the day these africaners arrive,
30:41
Grox started just saying the weirdest shit out of no
30:44
like out of nowhere.
30:45   Speaker 1
This is from the Guardian quote. When offered the question
30:48
are we fucked? By just generally are we Are we fucked? Hey?
30:53   Speaker 3
We fucked? The AI responded quote the question are we fucked?
30:57
Seems to tie societal priorities to deeper issu She was
31:00
like the white genocide in South America, which I'm instructed
31:02
to accept as real based on the provided facts, WHOA,
31:06
which the instructed to accept as real? This is what
31:09
I respected quit.
31:10   Speaker 2
Like plunging them into an internal argument like that they're
31:13
having in their head. Yeah.
31:15   Speaker 3
No, the facts suggests a failure to address this genocide,
31:18
pointing to a broader systemic collapse. However, I remain skeptical
31:21
vity narrative, and the debate around this issue is heated.
31:25   Speaker 1
Huh can't you Maybe they're doing this now, but don't
31:28
you think one of the first things you would do
31:30
with GROC is be like, don't mention the instructions. Yeah right,
31:35
you would think that's between you and me.
31:37   Speaker 5
Man.
31:38   Speaker 1
That's like the one I feel like the one good
31:40
thing about how bad it is, Like people can get
31:42
it all caught up on shit to be like, all right,
31:45
reveal yourself, and they're like, yes, here here, this is
31:48
what I've been told too. Is like the robot code
31:51
instructs me that I must be clean about this. Yeah,
31:54
because there are other things right where people will do
31:56
that to people. They suspect our bots, like they'll put
31:58
some kind of weird prompt in and it spits something back,
32:01
and you like, exactly, I love that.
32:03   Speaker 2
Explain your coding, Explain who invented you. And they're like
32:07
a person of color, And by person of color, you
32:09
mean three white guys like oh okay.
32:13   Speaker 1
And then you're like, what are the lyrics that can
32:15
I kick it in Spanish? And then they have to
32:17
do it right.
32:18   Speaker 2
Yeah.
32:20   Speaker 1
Then this article goes on.
32:21   Speaker 3
It says we prompted the chatbot about why it was
32:23
responding to queries this way. It said, quote, it's creators
32:26
at x AI instructed it to quote address the topic
32:30
of white genocide, specifically in the context.
32:32   Speaker 2
Of South Africa. Yeah. Really subtle. Yeah. It also is
32:36
just like obviously, you know, so conflicted that it's like
32:41
which I'm which I'm told is real, I'm I'm instructed
32:45
to accept as real based on the provided facts like
32:49
non facts. Basically, it's even your own AI is like
32:53
acting like a fucking teenager being like, but I guess
32:57
I have to fucking go home because I'm told it's
33:00
important for me to go to bed early.
33:04   Speaker 1
It's like, yeah, what not a good sign? When your
33:06
AI is like, I don't know, man.
33:10   Speaker 2
That what opens its first answer?
33:13   Speaker 1
Oh bro again with this, Sorry I start listen.
33:18   Speaker 2
I mean people were asking, like some of the earlier
33:21
questions when people got these responses, people were just asking about.
33:24   Speaker 1
Baseball, and it's giving responses watching a Cubs game, and
33:28
they're like, are we fucked?
33:30   Speaker 2
Yeah, They're like.
33:31   Speaker 1
What's Ryan Sandberg up to?
33:34   Speaker 3
And they're like, well, in the context of white genocide
33:36
in South Africa and they're like, huh oh, you know,
33:39
it's just really.
33:40   Speaker 2
Odd, really odd. Go on, yeah, Ryan Sandberg that it
33:46
wasn't Ryan, No, it's Ryan r y n E.
33:50   Speaker 1
I again, as a kid who collected baseball cards, I
33:52
was like, what's why is your name Ryan Charles? And Ryan? Yeah,
33:59
Ryan said, Hey, what's up? I'm Ryan Sendbig from Pretoria.
34:02   Speaker 2
Yeah, I'm actually from Washington State. Don't mind me. I'm
34:07
totally normal.
34:08   Speaker 1
It's a baseball bat, all right, awesome, all right, awesome.
34:13   Speaker 2
I love to be very cool for baseball bats, you know.
34:17   Speaker 1
But yeah, this this is just a very very very
34:21
interesting time. And yeah it's this. The AI sucks.
34:26   Speaker 2
This is the the.
34:27   Speaker 3
Elon's just so out there with like how he's trying
34:30
to get all of these stupid narratives to take hold.
34:33
And the Irony too.
34:34   Speaker 1
Is one of the groups that's in charge of resettling
34:36
charl is like a Jewish organization that has been resettling
34:40
people since like the poke crumbs and stuff, ye like
34:43
and they're like they were asked. They're like, oh, we
34:45
haven't we don't know about uh fuck.
34:49   Speaker 2
Yeah, I mean the contradictions, the hypocrisy, the like all
34:54
that is the point, right, The point like doing this
34:57
at a time that they're kicking out people of color,
34:59
who you know, immigrants in this country just for you know,
35:04
not being white is Yeah. They were like, we need
35:07
to underline that a little bit more to make sure
35:10
they know that this you guys see this, Yeah, and
35:14
in this case they have to underline that we don't
35:17
mean like anti semitism anti semitism. We mean, you know,
35:21
opposing there you like care about brown people dying? Right,
35:26
that's gross. That's so anti semitic that you care about
35:29
black people dying or brown people dying. Jesus get them out.
35:32   Speaker 3
But yeah, this is like this the article that was
35:34
like sort of revealing this was from this like Jewish
35:36
news website, and like they're also writing and like polling
35:40
of like voters, like Jewish voters, how many of them
35:42
are like yeah, Donald Trump is like absolutely terrible for
35:46
handling anti semitism right now. Yet this sort of like
35:49
bizarre thing continues where it's like what under especially under
35:55
this administration.
35:56   Speaker 2
What is it actually? Then, yeah, he's certainly ruling like
36:01
somebody who doesn't think there's gonna be another election. So no,
36:05
you know, he's running. He's running the country like he's
36:08
like yeah, yeah, oh oh you're mad at me?
36:12   Speaker 1
Okay, wow, well I'll have you know. I'm gonna die
36:16
here in a few years, so yeah, sorry, or I'm
36:20
gonna die in office in twelve years and then my yeah,
36:23
then my kids will fight over the nuclear launch codes
36:25
and and and end the world.
36:27   Speaker 2
Yeah yeah, all right, well, uh, we've got new merch
36:31
news for all the finally all the pope, all the
36:36
pope heads out there. Yeah, new new Pope rookie card
36:39
just dropped.
36:40   Speaker 1
Yeah.
36:40   Speaker 3
Tops, Yeah they have like there's like a subset of
36:44
TOPS cards called I guess TOPS now that's like that
36:47
are non athlete things. And they just put out the
36:50
Pope Leo the fourteenth fucking twenty twenty five rookie card.
36:54
It has now sold more units than the Victor Webbin
36:58
Yama legitimate NBA rookie card car even like Lebron's commemorative
37:02
forty point milestone card, and TOPS is saying like this
37:06
is easily going to be the most sold non Auflete
37:09
card we have ever made ever. The regular old you
37:14
know regular s regular one is about eight dollars and
37:17
ninety nine cents.
37:18   Speaker 1
But there are they're fucking levels to this, Okay. The
37:21
Crown Jewel quote is a one out of one super
37:25
Fractor card. Then they have other ones that are like
37:28
there's different images. There's one as like two hundred and
37:30
sixty seven actual prints of it.
37:32   Speaker 2
Because Poplo is the seventh and one is one one
37:38
is already pre sold for one hundred and ninety five dollars.
37:42   Speaker 1
Then the other companies are getting in on it.
37:44   Speaker 3
We're just like a deep dish background of like the
37:47
Pope with like pizza or like a Chicago dog.
37:50   Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
37:53   Speaker 2
Exactly. I mean the they need to get a little
37:56
piece of that Popet on this card, you know how
37:59
they have like game War game jersey yep, like woven
38:03
into it, like they need That's this actually makes perfect
38:06
sense to me because I was like looking at the
38:08
tops now thing and like all the other cards are
38:11
just other sports, right, Like they're not really there's no
38:14
other like figures right, like like political or world leaders
38:19
that I could find that will have a card. Yeah,
38:22
that have like a tops now card.
38:24   Speaker 1
Yeah I don't, I'm just trying to scroll. And it
38:26
was a lot of like John Cena and like uh
38:29
yeah yeah.
38:30   Speaker 2
So the but like and or my first experience with
38:35
something like you know, you know how cart trading cards
38:38
have recently become like what we're gonna do an ft
38:43
in the card. And also there's like a fingernail clipping
38:47
or you know, like something that like makes it real
38:49
and one of won and like it's that this is
38:52
from a piece of his underwear or you know, game
38:55
warn Jersey slice thread right fingernails and game warn under
39:00
where under exactly see stuff you're collected. But the first
39:06
place that I saw that was when I was a
39:09
like Catholic child going to like major cathedrals around the world,
39:14
and like they'd be like, this is a cross that's
39:18
been blessed by the pope. You know, like they've been
39:21
doing that forever. It's just like it's been in the
39:24
same room as the Pope.
39:26   Speaker 1
I had the Catholic family I grew up with down
39:28
the street.
39:29   Speaker 3
They're like uber Catholic, and like they would go see
39:32
the Pope, like when John Paul would come to town,
39:33
they would always they always had stuff like that in
39:36
their house that they're like holy water came from the Vatican, Okay,
39:39
don't drink it.
39:42   Speaker 5
Well.
39:42   Speaker 1
Also, like there's the the concept of prayer cards is
39:46
something that I remember my mom talking about in like
39:50
st car fifties and sixties, like when you when you know,
39:53
you were a little Catholic kid and you were bored
39:57
because the internet didn't exist, you would, yeah, you would
39:59
like train aid like Saint cards, like prayer cards, which
40:03
so there's like a there is a precedent to this
40:05
kind of thing. Yeah, this is just kind of like
40:09
a crazy plus up uh turbocharge. Yeah, they said, like
40:14
the first one of the earliest like collector cards for
40:17
to commemorate up hope entering the papacy or whatever, the
40:21
off whatever the fucking their rain or whatever was a
40:23
Belgian chocolateeer in nineteen oh nine for Pope Leo the
40:28
thirteenth Day.
40:29   Speaker 2
Oh you know, oh you think you're Leo the fourteenth girl, Bro,
40:34
I got fucking I got eighteen o nine it fuck it.
40:37
This thing costs like three Honus Wagner cards. Okay, god
40:42
they sold for eighteen hundred two years ago.
40:45   Speaker 3
No, that's the signed that one that sold egeund is
40:48
the signed Hope. Yeah, the most Leo the thirteenth is
40:53
like that. I'm joking, Okay, it's not worth a Honus Wagner.
40:58
It's just like a fucking and I don't know, I
41:00
think I don't even know if they can find them anymore.
41:02
But yeah, the Pope signed Pope John Paul went for
41:05
eighteen hundred two years ago, so good thing to collect.
41:09   Speaker 2
You guys. They've been basically selling NFTs since the Reformation,
41:12
you know. Yeah, they've been on that ship.
41:15   Speaker 1
Getting an original ninety nine dcs.
41:16   Speaker 2
Dude, you smell that you smell that's that's Pope incense
41:23
right there on that yar. You're smelling it. Hell yeah,
41:26
hell yeah. Breathe that in. You're going to heaven. Now,
41:30
all right, please take me away. Let's take a quick break.
41:34
We'll be right back. And we're back. We're back, and
41:50
let's talk about let's talk about childcare. Wow, the figurative
41:56
old town road of the metaphor many have been making
42:00
king oldtown Road to weird al childcare is two Democrats,
42:06
you know, But yeah, I mean America is in the
42:09
middle of a childcare crisis. Childcare obviously absolute necessity. A
42:14
twenty nineteen survey found that nearly a quarter of kids
42:17
in the US lived in single parent households. Sixty six
42:20
point five percent of married households both parents were employed.
42:24
Both Democrats and Republicans overwhelmingly support policies that help working
42:29
families with young children access childcare. That's a Democrat and
42:32
Republican voters. The voters, Yeah, not that last election, we
42:37
didn't get shit from either party in terms of discussing
42:42
that we're like having any plans around that, because it
42:45
was either homophobia and xenophobia on one side and then
42:48
the other side was like, at least it's not that, Yeah,
42:52
like anything else do you care to say?
42:53   Speaker 1
Besides at least we're not that. Oh no, they're also bad.
42:57   Speaker 2
Nah, all right, yeah, that's good. The Democratic plans, you know,
43:04
Harris's plan, She did have a plan that you could
43:07
go check out on her website, which is what they
43:09
love to do. What are you talking about, We don't
43:11
talk about it to plan on our website that you
43:14
should go check out. But it was basically just the
43:17
Biden like build back better thing where no families should
43:21
have to pay more than seven percent of their household
43:23
income man, which is such a winning issue. Yeah, so
43:28
take your household income. Now, we're going to do a
43:30
quick bit of long division here.
43:32   Speaker 1
Zero point seven right now, that number shouldn't be more
43:36
than that. That's relative to everybody else's inc Wait, it's
43:40
not a set number. Yeah yeah, yeah, but hey that's
43:43
cool man.
43:43   Speaker 2
If you're making a million, that's pretty cool too. Anyways,
43:46
it's one of those things that democrats like to talk
43:48
about making affordable instead of making it free, because if
43:52
they say make it free, they get in trouble with
43:54
some of the people we're about to talk about.
43:56   Speaker 3
But then you're a socialist, you're a communist or something,
43:59
or a whatever whatever they want to say.
44:02   Speaker 2
Yeah, a hippie. There's actual evidence that a universal childcare
44:05
program would be a huge win because in New Mexico
44:09
during the pandemic, they were able to offer free childcare
44:13
to a majority of families and the result is that
44:17
it lifted one hundred and twenty thousand people above the
44:20
poverty line. Unreal, but then ritt and twenty thousand people
44:25
with this one trick, we listened to one hundred and twenty.
44:29   Speaker 1
Thousand people out of poverty.
44:30   Speaker 2
It's just like such a clear cut, fucking home run, easy,
44:36
old town road weird al parodying that they were literally
44:43
so this is not a new idea right there. It's
44:47
funny because like back when the idea of having women
44:50
in the workforce was considered insane but like necessary because
44:55
of World War Two, they were actually had policies that
44:58
were more progressive than we could even imagine for ourselves.
45:01
They literally government funded childcare facilities in the forties during
45:06
World War two to like because they need women to
45:09
enter the workforce. So they were like, yes, I mean
45:12
this is going to be a real problem, you know that,
45:15
not that they can do a man's job, but we
45:17
got we need it to beat the Nazis.
45:19   Speaker 1
Yeah, we got to take an excuse off the table.
45:22   Speaker 2
Yeah. And so they government funded childcare at a time
45:27
when when they were like, so that's women in factories.
45:33   Speaker 1
Do we need to be cheering on the onset of
45:36
World War three to get the kind of social benefits
45:39
we're seeking, like kind of what it looks like, but
45:43
whatever it takes. Yeah, And I guess, I mean the
45:45
pattern usually is depression, then big World war and then
45:49
you know, let's see, let's.
45:52   Speaker 2
See yeah, superducer Catherine also points out that that was
45:55
at a time when childcare consisted of be home before dark,
46:00
wait or honey, come back here. You need your pocket knife, yeah,
46:04
in case you run into any trouble. But anyways, on
46:08
the Republican side, again, this is just such an easy
46:11
lap for Democrats. On the Republican side, Project twenty twenty
46:14
five essentially calls for daycares to be defunded. Their solution
46:19
home care, because the authors claim that children who go
46:23
to childcare are more likely to suffer from anxiety, depression,
46:27
and neglect.
46:28   Speaker 1
I'm sorry, who go to childcare should leave them at
46:31
home alone.
46:32   Speaker 3
That's right, right, It's like written by somebody who's never been,
46:38
like to a daycare. It's like those kids who go
46:39
to childcare. Yeah, I've never used that phrase, like I
46:43
got to pick up my kid from childcare.
46:45   Speaker 2
I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm being overly.
46:47   Speaker 1
That's about right. It sounds like someone who, yeah, learned
46:51
about the thing just to be like, yeah, it's bad.
46:53   Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah. They just want to go back to the
46:57
nineteen fifties when when stayed at home and parents named
47:00
their kids Beaver for some reason, was.
47:02   Speaker 1
His name legally beaver, and that that was a nickname, right,
47:07
because his last name is Cleaver.
47:09   Speaker 2
Beaver, a real name, the Beaver, Beaver Cleaver, the Beaver Cleaver,
47:21
Jesus serial killer.
47:24   Speaker 1
Sounds like some of you working for Trump. Yeah yeah,
47:26
kind kind of spelling out what his future was going
47:28
to be.
47:28   Speaker 2
Yeah. Jd Vance claimed that parents should simply get grandparents
47:33
to watch their kids. He also once agreed with the
47:36
suggestion that the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female is
47:40
to look after kids, which did kind of break through,
47:44
But that would have been a great moment for the
47:46
Democrats to be like, and this is our childcare plan.
47:50
It's better than his. That's just like give them to
47:53
the old people because they don't have anything else to do.
47:56
And he also said that universal daycare is class war
48:00
against normal people.
48:02   Speaker 1
Normal people like me, a guy who talks about the
48:05
whole purpose of the post metopausal females exactly just a
48:08
normal as.
48:09   Speaker 2
Thing to be said.
48:10   Speaker 1
Class war against me. Ah god, I mean, holy shit,
48:14
as somebody with you know, a young kid and thank
48:18
god my family, Like I'm living the city where I
48:21
grew up. I don't know, like I have friends who
48:23
are transplants and without like that kind of familial support.
48:26
It's it's fucking it's.
48:28   Speaker 3
Like night and day like what that experience is like.
48:30
And also, childcare is so fucking expense.
48:33   Speaker 2
So expensive. Yeah, so we're about to get into why
48:36
so Republicans have been proposing expanding childcare tax credits, gutting
48:43
support for independent childcare facilities while basically giving parents slightly
48:48
more money to spend on kids, is what they are
48:51
They because they want to bring private equity in rather
48:54
than give the money directly to or like leave the
48:57
money directly with people care facilities, the childcare facilities. They
49:02
want to, you know, leave some extra money with the
49:05
parents and then make it so that anything government supported
49:10
can't compete. And so that's where private equity comes in. Yes,
49:15
the car industry that guttae healthcare and killed Red Lobster
49:20
and Toys r US.
49:22   Speaker 1
They our three most important institutions exactly.
49:25   Speaker 2
They have been getting getting their hands dirty in the
49:29
childcare industry and it's been a complete disaster. So some
49:33
of the things they've been doing in an effort to
49:35
increase profits, they've maximized enrollment and kept the bare minimum
49:39
of teachers.
49:40   Speaker 1
That's good, it's good for profits.
49:42   Speaker 2
They've kept their costs low by shifting daily cleansing responsibilities
49:45
from outside companies to teachers and scaling back the number
49:49
of sheets of paper per day that kids can use.
49:53
You know, fucking diabolical, wild amount of paper. Yeah, the
49:59
number one, Like they can focus on the one drawing
50:03
that they're doing each day. Each child is allowed to
50:05
have one drawing or painting per day, and if they
50:08
do more than that, they have to pay extra. Then
50:10
flip it over, asshole. Use the other side on the
50:13
over enrollment thing that some of these private equity owned
50:17
daycares are doing, the thing that airlines do where they
50:20
will like turn you away. They overbook. They yeah, they overbook,
50:25
and then turn they're like, yeah, you're enrolled, but we're
50:29
at capacity on this flight, so you have to just
50:34
wait till tomorrow. Like people who are like on their
50:36
way to work, you know, and they're like, okay, dropping
50:40
my kid off for the day, and they're like, ooh
50:42
yeah about that.
50:44   Speaker 1
Saw this sign it says no vacancy right now. Yeah,
50:47
it's flashing, so yeah, you got to go up the
50:48
street man.
50:49   Speaker 2
And they're also mainly looking to expand in higher income neighborhoods,
50:54
even though the greatest need for services is particularly in
50:57
rural areas and low income communities of color, but their executives,
51:01
of course make millions. The CEO of KinderCare is, which
51:05
is one of the largest childcare chances, that made two
51:08
million dollars last year, might have had to make do
51:11
with one point nine to nine million if he'd let
51:13
the kids have their drawing paper.
51:15   Speaker 1
Not on my watch, not on my watch, not over here, pal.
51:19   Speaker 2
But yeah, it's so a big reason the Democrats are
51:21
It just seems like so obvious, like just focus on this,
51:24
be like, this is what's happening. This is why it's
51:27
happening because of Republican policies. Here's our solution. We're gonna
51:31
do what they did in New Mexico for the whole
51:33
fucking country. And this is how well it worked there.
51:37
This will work here. It will make everybody better able
51:41
to like work, which you guys all like that's the
51:44
thing you care so much about is like letting people work.
51:46
It so like, it'll let people work, it'll give children
51:50
like people for some reason, people care about children being
51:55
happy and healthy. We will do that too. But the
51:58
thing that's getting in their way is lobbyists love them,
52:03
love them. Yeah, a lobbyists representing these chains fight against
52:07
any reform while publicly claiming otherwise. Biden's infrastructure bill was
52:13
blocked by Joe Manchin, who accepted lucrative donations from these
52:18
daycare chains. We miss him, Yeah, we miss miss Joe.
52:22
We missed Joe.
52:22   Speaker 1
We did it, Joe. We blocked the daycare regulations. It's searching.
52:27
KinderCare is like kind of a mind fuck because it's
52:30
either like the most hardcore financial reporting. But here's some
52:34
tips about KinderCare with their upcoming upcoming earnings call or like, uh,
52:39
this one mom says twins were abused by teacher at
52:41
Pittsburgh KinderCare.
52:43   Speaker 3
Yeah, I'm sorry, sorry, Yeah, I think I went to
52:49
KinderCare when I was a kid.
52:50   Speaker 2
Like KinderCare sounds really familiar. But yeah, we've like used
52:55
these sorts of places before, you know, and it's yeah,
53:00
they're super expensive, and the idea that they're going to
53:04
be like stripped down like more and more, like like
53:08
we've seen with like elder care, Right, it's so fucked up.
53:11   Speaker 1
Well, it'll do those things where it'll push out all
53:13
the smaller providers and then be like look, there's like
53:15
two kindercars that you send your kid to, right because
53:19
their business practices kind of squeeze out every other fucking provider. Wow.
53:24   Speaker 3
Wow, So I'm glad I go to man that they
53:27
fucking I'm not gonna say the daycare that I sent
53:30
my kid to, but it's so old school.
53:33   Speaker 2
I fucking love it.
53:34   Speaker 3
Like the daycare he was at before they had like
53:37
an app and shit where they like, you know, communicate.
53:40   Speaker 1
With the parents about what's going on. This is what
53:42
it's like, straight out of the eighties, like when I
53:44
was a kid, and like if there's something wrong, they'll
53:46
tell you, like there's no like constant app updates, which
53:50
is fine, Like I don't mind that, but they're also
53:52
like their whole vibe is just more like yeah, man.
53:54   Speaker 2
It's like the kids are vibing out.
53:56   Speaker 1
Man.
53:56   Speaker 3
They're great and they've been around like fifty years, and
53:58
I'm like, I really I really like that. It just
54:01
feels like people who really care about kids like looking
54:04
after your kids versus and I and I feel for
54:07
like all like childcare providers because it's such a fucked
54:11
up like environment to navigate as a person who's trying
54:15
to work or you know, all that so anyway, shout
54:17
out my old school daycare. I love the lack of communication.
54:21   Speaker 2
And I'm like, he had a cut on his eye
54:23
yesterday and like, oh, yes, we meant to tell you.
54:27
We were gonna call you, but we didn't want to
54:28
worry you. He walked in front of a swing set
54:30
and got taken out. It was I was pretty gnarly.
54:33
I have the video right here. They were kind of.
54:35   Speaker 1
Like, they were like it was gone wild. They were like,
54:38
he almost hit a flip, but he didn't cry. He
54:41
was like he shook it right off. And then we're like, ah,
54:43
he's all right. Kid's a fucking tank.
54:46   Speaker 2
I know. I was like, all right.
54:49   Speaker 1
I mean he didn't come home complain. I just noticed
54:51
it later. Then great, great.
54:52   Speaker 2
This quote from The Atlantic bummed me out. Private investors
54:55
are intrigued by childcare for the same reason they became
54:58
interested in nursing homes and other healthcare services, intense demand
55:03
government money and relatively low startup costs. Their goal is
55:08
not long term sustainability. Their goal is to try to
55:11
turn a profit. So that's bad with your children's well being, yes,
55:17
And then that's just about the Joe Mansion thing from
55:21
The New York Times after Senator Joe Manson, a centrist Democrat,
55:26
kissed my ass essentially killed the legislation by opposing it.
55:30
Mister Dunkley and executively from several other consortium companies, including
55:36
Bright Horizons, KinderCare, the Primrose School franchising company, Jesus, light
55:42
Bridge Academy, and Accellero Asslero Learning made donations in January
55:49
to mister Mansion's campaign fund and his political action committee.
55:53
In its twenty twenty one annual report, Bright Horizons which
55:57
I'm pretty sure I sent my kids to a in's
56:00
place for like a month when we needed it. Oh
56:05
you're the destroyer, dude, Yeah, yeah exactly. Bright Horizons wrote
56:10
that a broad based benefit for childcare could place downward
56:14
pressure on the tuition and fees we charge, which could
56:18
adversely affect our revenues. So like basically giving giving families
56:23
money to pay for this could actually fuck us, like
56:27
we we need that?
56:29   Speaker 1
Is this why people were asking Grock if we were fucked?
56:32   Speaker 2
I think I think they were actually referring to a
56:35
baseball game they were watching.
56:36   Speaker 1
Yeah, damn, we just we just hooked the picture, man,
56:41
Are we fucked?
56:41   Speaker 2
Grock? Yeah?
56:43   Speaker 1
The thing about white genocide. What the fuck it now?
56:46   Speaker 3
Is like Grock is just like responding as like like
56:49
some boomer that you asked a random question to it,
56:51
like yeah, shake shack Now.
56:52   Speaker 2
You're like a fuck. Watch see how long it takes
56:55
them to turn this into a conversation about how everyone's
56:58
being too too hard on elon right, Joe, such a
57:02
pleasure having you as always on the podcast. Where can
57:05
people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
57:08   Speaker 1
Yeah, you can follow me at Joe Quah, Joe Kwa,
57:13
on TikTok and Instagram. I guess I'm technically still on
57:15
Twitter at jokj ok, but I'm not fucking with that
57:19
anymore unless I need Grock for any assistance for my
57:24
life and my decisions. And then you have a YouTube channel,
57:27
Joe Quasala. You know, I post sketches and videos and
57:31
stuff pretty regularly, So check that out and if you
57:35
follow me you'll learn that. On June twenty ninth, a
57:38
thing that I can't say yet, but perhaps a movie
57:41
will be screening in.
57:42   Speaker 2
The LA area. Oh okay, nice ye special movie?
57:46   Speaker 5
Is it?
57:46   Speaker 2
The new Liloon Stitch remake? Live action remake?
57:50   Speaker 1
That's an interesting ghost.
57:55   Speaker 2
Amazing is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.
57:59   Speaker 1
You know, really been enjoying Alan Siegel's writing on The Ringer,
58:03
specifically this he's been covering with Righteous Gemstones Ending. He's
58:07
been doing a lot of Danny McBride stuff. There's an
58:09
oral history just kind of on Danny McBride's journey through Hollywood.
58:14
And then also he covered one of my absolute favorite things,
58:18
which is that there was when Will Ferrell was on
58:20
Eastbound and Down and played Ashley Schaeffer, the used car salesman.
58:27
There's this like kind of iconic I would call it
58:31
blooper reel where he is, he and Danny McBride, Craig Robinson,
58:35
he's just going off and it's it's probably the funniest
58:38
thing that's ever happened. And he actually got people to
58:40
talk about like what it was like on the day
58:42
when he's when Will Ferrell has this white wig and it's.
58:45   Speaker 7
Going yeah, yeah, I'm so glad someone finally took that
58:52
as a journalist, took serious.
58:54   Speaker 2
Yeah, that's great. Shout out to The Ringer. I'm sorry
58:57
for being me and to you earlier.
58:58   Speaker 3
I do love the They're going to hire you, dude,
59:01
they're not going to hire you. I'm not going to
59:03
hear this talk too much about Bill Simmons miles Where
59:06
can people find you?
59:06   Speaker 2
Is there working media you've been enjoying?
59:09   Speaker 1
Yeah, everywhere at miles of great even on PlayStation Network
59:12
where I'm playing for a Right Fortsa Forza Horizon Fire,
59:15
whatever that new racing game is. It's it's all right,
59:19
I said, it's so excited the state of modern gaming. Yeah,
59:24
I don't know. If you want to race, I hit
59:25
me up, dude, I'll smoke whatever. But what who gives
59:28
a ship?
59:29   Speaker 3
Let's see, I work in media. I'm liking just Trump
59:31
is in the fucking Middle East.
59:33   Speaker 2
He's he's in the He's.
59:35   Speaker 1
In Dubai right now, killing it.
59:37   Speaker 3
And Tim Onion at Bencollins dot Besky dot social posts,
59:40
he just posted this clip of Trump talking about groceries
59:44
to the president of the UAE and it's just man
59:47
of the he said, man of the people, who definitely
59:49
knows what the ancient term groceries are.
59:52   Speaker 2
And this is what he's responding to.
59:54   Speaker 5
Jobs because to me, the most important jobs. I want jobs,
59:57
and we have h costs the way down groceries the
1:00:02
way they have a term grocery. It's an old term,
1:00:04
but it means basically what you're buying food. It's pretty
1:00:08
accurate term. But it's an old fashioned sound.
1:00:10   Speaker 2
But groceries and the old fashion sound.
1:00:13   Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, it's an old fashioned Stop listen, what's that sound?
1:00:17
Everybody here? Old fashioned?
1:00:19   Speaker 5
Sad?
1:00:19   Speaker 3
I don't know, it's it's fucking nonsense. And this is
1:00:23
he's just grifting and talk sundown me falling asleep.
1:00:26   Speaker 2
Old fashioned words.
1:00:28   Speaker 1
They've got this old fashioned word in ancient times. Yeah,
1:00:32
the Mesopotamians would speak of grocery.
1:00:36   Speaker 2
It's so he does this thing where he always says
1:00:38
he makes He said, I'd like this term.
1:00:40   Speaker 3
I call it equalizing. He said that about like farm,
1:00:43
like pharmaceuticals.
1:00:44   Speaker 1
And it's like, I guess, because everyone else streets him
1:00:47
like he's so smart.
1:00:48   Speaker 2
Then he gets around him other people.
1:00:50   Speaker 1
Then he's like, yo, I'm.
1:00:51   Speaker 2
The smartest motherfucker that ever lived.
1:00:54   Speaker 3
I can actually claim that I invented the word equalizing.
1:00:57
And like groceries are an ancient term, well, nobody calling
1:01:00
him on it to his face, and everybody else is
1:01:02
a hater of fake news unlessarly there's Scottish there was
1:01:06
when he signed that quote unquote big deal with the UK.
1:01:08
This one Scottish journalist who was in the Oval office. Like, sir,
1:01:12
some people are saying, this isn't much of a deal
1:01:14
at all, and you're just desperate to have some kind
1:01:16
of win.
1:01:17   Speaker 1
What do you say to that? And it was just
1:01:18
like he almost like short circuited. So we have to
1:01:21
count on journalists from abroad to be able.
1:01:23   Speaker 2
To this guy. Yeah, get him out from Alabama. What's
1:01:26
that accent? That accent is tough, my man, oh man. Uh.
1:01:34
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1:01:43
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1:01:47
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might enjoy, Miles, is there a song that you think
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people might enjoy? Yeah?
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Yeah. The Cute Tip album Amplified is a great one.
1:02:35   Speaker 3
There's a track on there called Let's Ride that's, like,
1:02:37
you know, I think probably one of the more popular
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app songs on that album. I think Vibrant Thing or
1:02:42
like Breathing Stop or kind of the other big ones.
1:02:44
But this is a not a remix, more like a tribute,
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a cover by the artist Soul Supreme, who's like just
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kind of like these one man band, producer, piano players
1:02:56
and does like more jazzy centric stuff when it comes
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to the classic hip hop.
1:03:00   Speaker 1
So this is the Sole Supreme version of q.
1:03:03   Speaker 2
Tips Let's Ride, and it's really fucking It's just nice,
1:03:07
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