There’s more news and less comprehension today than any historical period that didn’t involve literal witch trials, and trying to stay on top of it all can feel like playing a game of telephone with 30 people, except everyone’s speaking at the same time and like a third of them are openly racist for some reason. From Cracked co-founder Jack O’Brien, THE DAILY ZEITGEIST is stepping into that fray with some of the funniest and smartest comedic and journalistic minds around. Jack and co-host Miles Gray spend up to an hour every weekday sorting through the events and stories driving the headlines, to help you find the signal in the noise, with a few laughs thrown in for free.
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-the-daily-zeitgeist-28516718/
episode 5: My Cousin Rudy, Cursed Covid Xmas Decorations 11.20.20
In episode 764, Jack and guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by Alison Rosen Is Your New Best Friend's Alison Rosen to discuss Trump continuing his voter fraud brigade, the war on Thanksgiving, cursed 2020 Christmas ornaments, and more!
FOOTNOTES:
- Trump courts Michigan GOP leaders in bid to overturn election he lost
- The Environmental Impact Of Your Thanksgiving Dinner
- Despite what conservative media say, liberals are not trying to “cancel”...
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Speaker 1
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one sixty, Episode
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five of Daily Guys, the production of I Heart Radio.
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This is the podcast where we take a deep dive
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into American share kind of just it's Friday, November twenty
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uh sixty one days until January two thousand one. So
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many twenties. Wait, let's form a conspiracy theory, right, Yeah,
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it's like we're gonna do ah, just like Jim Carrey's
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the number twenty three the dailies like guys the number
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twenties something anything. My name is Jack O'Brien a K.
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I always feel like drinking a Baja freeze. That is
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courtesy of Picks Last and zych class uh or at
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go to Joe three oh three three oh. I don't
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know how they got that damp, but they did it.
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Uh And I'm thrilled to be joined by my co
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host Jamie Laws. I got the tax buttons, I got
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some hot text Jamie and I I maybe lose it
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by my take demon got I have some hot take
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with mout Jason Jeko Brat run there those pretty Yeah.
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My animals just died. They died because they did that.
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I really like. I'm always impressed by your singing. Yes,
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Miles is off decompressing uh in the Southern hemisphere. Yah. Yeah,
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We're just gonna take a couple of days to decompress
01:46
from the election that we just ran for Joe Biden. Um,
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and we are thrilled to be joined in our third
01:55
seat by the hilarious and talented Allison Roses. Hello, I'm
02:04
so excited to be here. Congratulations on the campaign you
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ran for Biden. I was unaware that I was going
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to be forced to sing, so I'm not going to
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this almost sounded do you know that sn L sketch
02:18
where Kristen wigg is like oh to Mike mssing and
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then keep Yeah, it seemed like I was going to
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head into that like, I don't know. We can tell
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you I have a piano here. It's just coincidence. Alison.
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What have you been up to since we last spoke
02:38
with you? Oh? God, just preparing for this day and
02:42
it's finally here. It's been like an advent calendar where
02:46
each day I just read the news and I hope
02:48
that I'll get a chance to talk about it. Um. No,
02:50
what have I been doing? Well, I've been fretting a
02:55
bit about COVID, fretting about the country, fretting about out, uh,
03:01
the election those first couple of days, even though everyone
03:05
had said, you know, we're not going to have the
03:07
results right away, there's going to be a red mirage,
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when it happened those first couple of days, I still
03:14
felt very worried and very concerned and like, oh my god,
03:19
I just didn't realize this many people still supported him.
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And then ultimately when it kind of shook out, I
03:25
began to feel like, oh well, it really was kind
03:27
of a statement that people are done with him, So
03:30
I felt better about that. And then also just doing
03:32
my show shows, your shows, yes, and raising my children
03:37
that a distant third. But what else besides that? Besides
03:41
all these things, I have Elliott who is three and
03:50
a half and Owen who's one and a half. We're
03:54
in similar ballparks, uh, four and two over here son
03:58
to mine own. I say three and a half because
04:01
I feel like they're at the age where no one
04:03
wants to do the math of me saying months. But
04:05
they both have birthdays in February, so actually I could
04:09
say they're almost four and two. The big development, uh,
04:14
is that now they like to take bath together. So
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it's incredible and it's a little bit easier. Actually, yeah,
04:21
good Sarah Tonin to just have in your house. That's yeah,
04:26
it really is. I do feel like I use my
04:28
kids as antidepressants. Yeah, well yeah, I mean I definitely
04:32
can be feeling very beside my Oh my god, I
04:37
just remember, hang on, I just remember the other thing
04:39
I've been doing. Let me finish my sentence about the
04:41
kid I've been feeling beside myself, or when I feel
04:44
beside myself, then if I just spend some time really
04:47
playing with them, being in the moment with them. Um,
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It's like it's always this reminder that this is what
04:53
I should be doing, not scrolling and worrying and stuff
04:58
like that. Um, so I feel very fortunately I haven't.
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What I've been The main thing I've been doing is
05:04
I've been watching the Vow and Seduced and then listening
05:08
to that podcast Escaping Nexium. I am not usually a
05:12
true crime person. This is not really something you'd think
05:15
I would like. And then I just got so sucked in.
05:17
Have you guys watched this? Yeah? Are you aware of it?
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I've Yeah, I feel like it. It is like even more,
05:26
I'm very easily pulled into a doom spiral media, but
05:31
now more than ever. Yeah, though I've watched I I
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just finished Seduced and I watched the Vow. The Vow
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piss me off because it just a lot of it
05:43
felt like people who were integral to like the people
05:47
who a lot of the um Not podcast documentary were
05:50
about we're trying to get ahead of stuff, and I
05:52
feel like they were making it a lot about them,
05:56
and I just I liked I thought Seduced was a
05:58
far more like comprehend pensive, clear detailed account of of
06:04
that story. Right, Um, yes, there is so Jack. You
06:09
have not seen any of this, Right, you don't know,
06:12
but I have. I am sad enough that I follow
06:16
other people's thoughts on the documentary that I haven't seen,
06:20
so right the second hand, you're up to speed. So
06:24
the Vow is I think nine episodes and it follows
06:27
some of the same characters who are in Seduced, which
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is more succinct in its four episodes, and there in
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the Vow they are portrayed or they portrayed themselves as victims.
06:38
But there's this question of like, were you really victims?
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You were integral, you were top earners in the company
06:44
you were recruiting. They never talked about how much money
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they were making during this time. They know, I don't know.
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I just yeah. And also just on a personal viewing experience,
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I'm like, the vow could have been three hours, That's
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what everyone says, and yet I still like hung on.
07:03
Even the late There was a when they went down
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to Mexico near the very end where I'm like, who
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are these new people they're introducing? Um Then I was like, Okay,
07:12
I do feel like I'm gonna fall asleep. But other
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than that, I was hooked the whole time. Where they
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lost me was just the when the there's like a
07:20
moment where the main couple that we're following, or one
07:23
of the main couples, it's like Bonnie and Mark Mark
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Mark especially, I'm like Mark, I just he he. But anyways,
07:33
they go to their storage unit to look at their
07:35
old stuff and they're just it's the most useless scene
07:39
in all that. It's just like for me, it was
07:41
just an empty pass at trying to get the viewer
07:44
to sympathize with them, where she's like, wow, look it's
07:47
my Star Wars action figure and he's like, look it's
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the DVD of the movie I made. Wow, that feels
07:53
so long ago, and I'm like, what does this have
07:55
to do with fucking anything? Like get Off? I wrote
07:59
a book that was a time ago. It seemed like
08:01
they had paid someone to make title cards and they're like,
08:04
we got to use them because she's like, look, I
08:06
found Shifter and he's like, oh, you found the shifter module.
08:09
This is like literature. The cult had given them shifter. Yes,
08:14
she looks a shifter, and then across the screen, like
08:17
the screen goes black and you just see like the
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words shifter, which is in the same style as other
08:21
titles they had used, but they don't go into it
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at all. And then they're like and something with the fall,
08:26
and then across the screen the fall goes It's like
08:29
you just yes, that's interesting that because it sounds like
08:34
it's a similar model to Firefest, like the Firefest documentaries
08:38
where you have like one that is like part of
08:40
the like people who are part of the original con
08:44
and then the other one. But those were kind of indistinguishable.
08:48
It sounds like these are a little bit more distinct
08:50
the Valve. Though we we have nine episodes so far,
08:54
we should make that point that they have renewed it
08:58
for a second season somehow really yes, Yeah, And the
09:02
final episode of the Vow has footage that indicates what
09:08
the point of view of the second season is going
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to be and to people who are considering joining Nexium
09:13
like me, and I'm joking, but I also was spending
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enough time that I feel like I could, Um, it's
09:19
quite titillating a little bit morally into you know, I'm
09:24
not going to be so vague about this. Um, you
09:27
see Nancy, who's like the second in command. You see
09:30
her with an ankle bracelet, so it's clear they got
09:33
an interview with her after she's already been arrested. And
09:36
then you hear Keith, the head of the whole thing,
09:38
call from prison. So it's like you're going to get
09:40
their point of view in the second season, which is,
09:43
do we really I'm like, do we really need to
09:45
go deeper into like let's get that. I don't. I
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don't know, I I by the end, I honestly wasn't
09:51
paying close enough attention to the final episode because I
09:54
was just kind of frustrated with it. Yeah, but that said,
09:57
will I watch it? Yeah? Will so I will not
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but I will listen to you guys talk about it.
10:05
I mean, honestly, it's just it's it's more interesting. Um.
10:10
But hearing myself talk about it makes me think, oh, wow,
10:13
what has happened to me? Listen to me? Because I
10:16
always and I feel I don't even know if this
10:20
if it qualifies as true crime. I think so, it's
10:23
not murdering, but it is crime. But in general, I
10:26
I sometimes worry that there's something a bit exploitative about
10:31
true crime. And so to hear myself so deep into
10:35
like other people's foibles and anguish makes me think, yeah,
10:39
and to you, I feel like I've felt the same
10:42
way a lot, And then I think that I don't know.
10:46
It seems like one of those things where I'm like, yeah,
10:48
I should reckon, But why I respond to stuff like
10:51
that this way? Next year? Like they're right, right, everything,
11:00
everything's getting reprioritized right now, even Jack, is it like
11:04
this for you and your children? Things that my kids
11:07
were working on, like potty training, giving up pacifiers, things
11:10
like that. There's been a huge regression and I'm not
11:13
fighting it so much. Yeah, we're cutting ourselves a nice
11:17
little break on that front. But then I'm also like,
11:21
is it going to be easier when they're like going
11:24
back to school and we're like going back to work
11:27
and having to adapt back to seeing people in person. Probably,
11:34
But yeah, well I don't know. I mean I think
11:37
that there is there's the social pressure of it. So
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I think that once my my son is back around
11:44
kids his own age who are toilet trained and not
11:48
us going to pass there and things like that, I'm
11:49
hoping that'll that will be incentive. It's funny. At the beginning,
11:53
everyone was like, I'm gonna lose weight, I'm gonna finally
11:55
get my house organized. This is a great time to
11:58
potty train my kids. That are done. I feel like
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no one is doing any of that anymore. We've all
12:03
let it go. Yeah. But once I'm going to eight
12:07
three year old birthday parties a weekend again, I will
12:11
have more energy and more time to focus on this stuff. Same.
12:15
You know how they say, if you want to get
12:17
something done, ask a busy person, Right, Yeah, that's actually true. Yeah,
12:22
I'm glad they say that. That makes me feel better.
12:24
Thank um. All right, we're gonna get to know you
12:28
a little bit better in a moment. Alis and first
12:30
let's tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about, Um,
12:33
just the latest in the you know what, what's happening
12:37
in Trump's Twitter thread about the election, Rudy Giuliani tip
12:43
of the spear, very dull tip of the spear for
12:47
for that whole thing. We're gonna talk about the war
12:49
on Thanksgiving, it's back and it's coming for you Americans,
12:55
talk about the Catholic Church maybe I don't know. We'll
12:59
talk about out COVID nineteen themed holiday decorations, all of that,
13:04
plenty more. But first, Allison, we like to ask our guest,
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what is something from your search history that is revealing
13:12
about who you are? I recently searched Ski towns in Iowa,
13:17
and again there's an embarrassing television reason that I searched this.
13:22
I was, okay, I saw so many people tweeting about
13:25
Real Housewives of Salt Lake City that I thought, you know,
13:28
now that my Nextian programming is over, what am I
13:30
going to watch? I've I'm ultimately watching The Queen's Gambit
13:34
and wow, her bangs are short at the beginning. But
13:36
so I was watching that and then my wig it's
13:41
a wig, right, Yeah? I feel like it's a wig. Yeah,
13:44
well on the child, not necessarily. Maybe I think they
13:48
were just like, we're going to give you a stupid
13:50
hair cut. But also, Anna Taylor Joy has had some
13:52
weird bangs over the years. You never know, she looks
13:55
she looks like byork to me. But the place that
13:58
her hair starts from in the it's like far in
14:02
the back, like the banks start far in the back.
14:05
So I feel like it might be a wig. Um
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But yeah, I was distracted by the wig work in
14:10
that show. Same same. I don't think they want the
14:14
whigs to be upstaging their actors. Someone let them know.
14:20
Uh So, anyway, We're watching Real Housewives of Salt Lake
14:23
City and my husband was saying something about, like, I
14:27
know that everyone loves Salt Lake City, but I just
14:29
don't think it's that pretty. And then I was trying
14:32
to remember. Um, so back in in a lifetime ago
14:38
for me, not really that long ago, but I was
14:41
a magazine journalist and I was sent to Idaho by
14:45
Hallmark Magazine to write a story about It was a
14:48
New Year's celebration story. It was interesting how they did it.
14:52
They had like I think they cast a group of
14:56
people to be friends or maybe they were sort of
15:00
friends in real life, but it was cast. And then
15:03
there was this like beautiful, big log cabin style house
15:08
and the story was supposed to follow this group of
15:11
friends and their New Year's celebration, um, and they were
15:15
going to like cook. Also, it was Hallmark magazine, so
15:18
it's like warm and cozy, and they which is it's
15:21
not around anymore, and they were gonna like cook these
15:23
various things. And then they were gonna write um New
15:27
Year's plans and read them by the fire and start
15:30
this annual tradition. And then I was people that the
15:33
magazine cast. They cast them, but it was like their
15:37
real names. Yeah, I know, it's yes. I also at
15:42
the time it didn't strike me as mind boggling, but
15:44
looking back, it feels mind boggling. But I do think
15:48
the thing is it was a sort of small town,
15:51
so while there was an element of casting, I think
15:55
they also did know each other. Maybe they've been sent
15:57
from the same agency or something. I don't exactly remember,
16:00
but I was and I remember it being beau. It
16:03
was the only time I'd been to Idaho, and I
16:05
remember it being beautiful, but I couldn't remember, because I
16:08
was like, was it Boise? I don't think so. And
16:10
so then I searched Ski Towns in Idaho because I
16:11
was trying to remember where this all was, and it
16:14
was Sun Valley, Sun Valley. Did you do other work
16:19
for a Hallmark magazine? I'm very I'm very confused about
16:21
the like the fact that they were reality show casting
16:25
a travel magazine story? Is that a thing? Travel magazine story?
16:30
I just traveled to write the story. It was a
16:33
story about It was like gather with your friends around
16:36
the fire for here's an idea of something you could
16:39
do for New Year's You could make corn bread muffins.
16:41
You could make Brent's chili. Brent is the husband. You
16:45
could do this. You could make like, you know, Sue
16:48
Anne's hot chocolate, and while you go snowshoeing, and snowshoeing
16:51
is a great activity for kids because you can and
16:54
this because you can chat while you're doing it. And
16:57
then as the clock strikes midnight, everyone is going to
17:00
write down there new Year's resolution and then a year
17:04
from now we'll all gather again and we'll read them
17:07
or something. It was like a narrative, but again you
17:10
can tell by the way that I'm having trouble making
17:13
it sound cohesive. I don't quite remember it was, but
17:17
you know, it was like sounds like a Black Mirror episode,
17:20
Like it sounds very strange where you're like some piece
17:23
of technology or some uh social structure is like putting
17:28
you together with people who you have to do these
17:31
like fun friend activities with even though you don't really
17:34
know them. Where are you gonna say? I will say
17:38
the idea of Now that I know that Hallmark Magazine exists,
17:42
I'm so into that. I wish I could still subscribe
17:46
to it. I'm looking at old covers and it's just
17:49
so the autumn. It's just every every cover it's autumn.
17:54
It's beautiful. Yeah, it's very it's a very snugly magazine. Um.
17:58
I had written a I've done some music reviews for them,
18:03
and I remember I described in one review I think
18:08
I just I referred to the honey drenched vocals, or
18:12
maybe I said dulcet tones or something like that. And
18:14
then the next review of a different band, I used
18:17
the phrase again and they're like you, I think I
18:22
don't think it was honey drenched. I think it was
18:23
dulcet tones, like you use dulcet Tones last time, Like, well,
18:26
you've had me review to dolcet toned albums. So much
18:32
dulcet Tones happening. It's like it's I would love to
18:37
go back and read those reviews because I feel like,
18:39
what kind of music were they sending you? Was it
18:41
all just like Dulcet tones. It was like massage soundtracks? No,
18:48
I think it was like a lot of Nora Jones
18:51
sounding style. Yeah, that's the vibe. Who am I thinking
18:56
of as like this is Hallmark magazine or Jones is
19:00
Nara Jones is absolutely the vibe. There's also some some jazz.
19:05
This isn't interesting enough for me to kill myself over
19:08
trying to remember honestly, that never stops me. That's just
19:12
ask anyone who listens to my podcast. I know that
19:15
Elvis Costello was or is married to her. Oh Krause
19:21
Crouse yeah, or wait, Diana Crawl crawl crawl, Okayison Krause,
19:27
I was so on board with, like, yes, I got
19:32
to look that up. I feel like she is also
19:35
a singer dim and bluegrass country singer. Okay, so at
19:41
least she exists, Okay, and she sounds like the vibe too. Yeah.
19:45
Diana Crawl is a Canadian jazz pianist that I'm like,
19:49
that's the Hallmark channel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it.
19:54
And if I remember correctly, the actual Hallmark compound, I
19:59
don't know if a still there. I had never been there,
20:02
but like where Hallmark is headquartered, it stretches across the
20:06
border of two towns, I think, and it's huge and
20:09
I was always fascinated by it. That's that's so interesting.
20:13
I went to eBay for like some business thing a
20:18
few years ago. No big deal, you know, where is
20:23
this going? But no, it's like there's this trend of
20:27
companies that have corporate headquarters that are like the Epcot
20:32
attraction of that company's brand, Like Starbucks is the same way,
20:37
and it's just it's weird. They put a lot of
20:40
work into this thing that only is for people who
20:44
come there on vague business things. Right, Like they refer
20:48
to where they all work as their campus, yes campus
20:52
what they like eBay had like a bar, but then
20:56
like they I don't know, it just had a cool
20:58
stuff around, just like it was like a t G
21:02
a Fridays with like stuff that you could like cool
21:05
stuff you got on eBay, like decorating the place. I
21:09
honestly just imagined it to be like full of beanie babies.
21:13
That's that to me. eBay still, well, the walls were
21:16
all made of beanie babies, condensed beanie babies. I want
21:21
to hear something that you might find disgusting. I purchased
21:26
our duve cover and sheets off eBay because I got
21:30
an idea in my head of what I wanted. Um,
21:34
I'm a big fan of blue and white, and I
21:36
know that's very trendy right now, but I swear I've
21:38
been into blue and white before everyone else climbed on board,
21:42
and so I wanted a particular like like blue and
21:46
white porcelain those I wanted a bedspread that looked like that,
21:49
and I couldn't find one, but I found one on
21:51
eBay and I bought it, and it's it's really nice.
21:55
But sometimes I think, how gross is it that I
21:57
got something like that on eBay? Claimed that it was
22:01
new but open, like it was not still sealed. But
22:07
they say it was new and unused, but I don't
22:08
know if that's true. I feel like that, I feel
22:11
like that's fair game. I don't know I've I've made
22:13
similar eBay purchases. Maybe I'm being defensive as well, but
22:17
I think I think it's I think it's fair game
22:18
if it's sealed and good to go. But oh yeah,
22:22
Also when people talk, people buy clothes on ebail all
22:26
the time, and that's even more closer to your body. Right.
22:33
The word I was looking for when I was thinking
22:34
of Hallmark Magazine is like huga, that like Danish word
22:38
that is like a national movement that like I feel
22:42
like Hallmark Magazine should have, should still be around and
22:47
just be like embrace American hugo h y g E.
22:53
Reach out to me, Hallmark. I want to come to
22:55
your campus. I want to consult with you on what
22:59
your mags and should be. I'm looking at the Hallmark
23:03
has two editions of their own Monopoly games Wow, for
23:08
autumn and winter, the only two recognized months. We're a
23:12
sneaky Big Hallmark podcast because we also Miles is obsessed
23:18
with Hallmark holiday movies and when you talk about those
23:20
quite a bit. There always I'll be scrolling through the
23:26
guide and I'll see, like I'm trying to remember the
23:30
description of the last one I saw. I'll look at
23:31
the description and I'll look at the photo and I'll
23:34
think that sounds good, and I turn it on and
23:36
then I, unlike everyone else that seems I don't get
23:39
sucked in. I think, no, I'm not into this. Yeah.
23:43
I think I'm also one of the only people who's
23:44
ever been arrested for use of a Hallmark card, because
23:49
my friends and I got when when I was like
23:52
I think twelve, we sent a like those Hallmark personalized
23:57
card machines like computer thing ings had just come out,
24:02
and we got kicked out of a Little Caesar's and
24:05
it was next door to a Hallmark, and so we
24:07
went and made a personalized Hallmark card. Uh to the
24:12
Little Caesar's store manager who kicked us out. I was like,
24:16
fuck you, man, jerk, and gave it to him because
24:20
we were bad boys. Uh, And he called the police
24:23
on us, and the police came saying fuck you. And
24:27
then we were also racing shopping carts in the little
24:32
strip mall when they showed up, and so they said
24:34
we were like being endangering people. It was I think
24:37
that it was more like as Miles has described it
24:40
as getting white people arrested, where they're like trying to
24:43
teach you a lesson, and uh, you know, I think
24:47
it's funny and cute. I mean, that's a lot of effort.
24:49
You went, you got to the bottom card. That's very
24:52
punk rock. Yeah, very punk rock. Also, it's really hard
24:57
to get kicked out of a little caesar. Yeah, we're
25:00
the experience, so that's pretty impressive. We're pushing each other.
25:03
And one of my friends like fell and ripped something
25:06
off the wall as he was falling. Um, and that
25:10
will do it. That'll do it every time. Okay, Uh,
25:15
what is something you think is overrated? Alison? Oh okay,
25:19
this doesn't cast me in a good light, but honestly,
25:22
at this point, I think changing your clothes is overrated.
25:25
I have felt embarrassed about the fact that I really
25:30
hunkered down and embraced like two outfits. It's the same
25:36
black exercise pants every day, and then it's one of
25:41
two different blue T shirts, and then it's this hoodie.
25:45
I think that I was wearing this last time I
25:47
saw you. Um and and I did recently purchase cloth
25:52
clothes to change it up for my zooms. So at
25:55
least the public facing me, there's a little bit of variety,
25:59
But other wise I'm basically wearing the same thing um
26:02
the other. It's got to the point where I'll say
26:04
to Elliott, my older son, I'll say I need to
26:07
go change clothes. He goes, oh, you need to put
26:09
your blue shirt on. Explained to him that there's two
26:12
different blue shirts that looks one is crew neck, ones
26:15
V neck. But m yeah, I just feel like, uh,
26:20
so be it. It's just easy. I have a uniform.
26:23
At this point, yeah, are you guys changing it up? No?
26:30
I feel like and at this point, yeah, I I have.
26:33
It's so weird because I feel like I or I've
26:36
organized my clothes five trillion times since quarantine started. This
26:40
is a nervous habit. But then I don't wear any
26:43
of them there. I just wear the same three shirts
26:46
and then pants, especially like shirts, I get self conscious
26:50
about where I'm like, okay, I can't have the same
26:52
shirt on on zoom. You know, five days at a
26:55
row pants, that's a free for all. You could do none,
26:58
you could do one. And I was like looking, I
27:01
was like, oh, I forgot how that I have more
27:04
than one pair of pants. I don't want to know
27:06
what's going on in their lives, right, but they exist.
27:12
Forgot yeah, one pants I think is the over under
27:17
for me for for a given week. What is something
27:24
you think is underrated? This might not be underrated for
27:27
most people, but in my life it was underrated having
27:31
the proper storage system. I am a messy person. I
27:40
come from a line of messy people. As my dad
27:43
said about my mom, she's the messiest person I've ever
27:45
met um and she's it's not that she's slothful, she
27:49
just doesn't know how to organize and doesn't know how
27:54
to like purge and so I and I know, I
27:58
sound like an adult blaming my mom or something. Maybe
28:00
it was not her job to to pass this along
28:04
to me, but somehow I just like never accrued the
28:09
knowledge and then know how to be an organized person
28:12
who doesn't have just clutter on like every horizontal surface.
28:17
It's just a thing that I I don't know, Like
28:20
my husband is not. He's also messy, but it's not
28:23
as bad as me. I just don't know how to
28:25
do it. But anyway, there was this article I read
28:28
on the cut and it was like, here's how I
28:30
organized my small bathroom. And I actually have a pretty
28:32
good sized bathroom. But I bought some of the under
28:35
cabinet storage drawers that she recommended, and I put them
28:40
in the under the sink area, and all of a sudden,
28:45
everything that was just a big pile of crap before
28:49
is like neatly organized, and when I open it, I
28:53
just feel this sense of calm wash over me, and
28:56
I'm like, oh my god, this is how people do it.
28:58
My problem, in addition to hoarding too much crap, my
29:02
problem is that I've just never I don't have the
29:05
right shelves and drawers, Like, the right kind of storage
29:08
system can make your space again, I'm saying to me,
29:11
everyone knows the right kind of sources one can make
29:13
your space not feel totally out of control, and I've
29:16
just never done that before. One counterpoint to that is, uh, my,
29:21
my wife and I are both very messy people who
29:25
are very like a d D. And we have found
29:30
that we have a problem with clutter from organizational products
29:36
like we have we have container storeship like everywhere. We
29:41
have probably thirty books about like living with a d
29:45
D without like medication, Like, yeah, it can be a
29:49
problem if you don't stick to it. So it is good.
29:52
It's good that like really making a plan and sticking
29:55
to it. As opposed to just having drawers upon drawers
30:00
and like keeping the ones when they break because he
30:02
bought like some cheap plastic shelving. Isn't that the most
30:07
beautiful like poetry in the world When you're just like
30:10
laying in a pile of depression, Books like that are
30:14
just like spine uncracked and you're like any any day now. Yes,
30:20
I have a book called Clutter's Last Stand that I've
30:23
never opened. It is Clutter. That's a custard reference rules.
30:34
Who is the audience? Just me for the check? It's
30:38
just me. Someday I am going to have to go
30:42
out and buy that book now, unfortunately for my household.
30:47
All right, guys, let's take a quick break and we'll
30:49
come back and talk about what's happening in the news.
31:03
And we're back and the Trump, I don't know, like
31:08
talk the Trump Trump. I mean, if you still follow
31:13
him on Twitter? Do you guys still follow him on Twitter?
31:17
I never did. He was tweeted into my timeline often
31:20
and then I would or I would see people talking
31:22
about something, so I would then go to his page
31:25
just to see what was going on. But I never
31:27
actually followed him. Yeah, I was kind of similar where
31:31
I'm like, well, if if I end up needing to
31:34
see one of these, it'll probably show up in my feet. Anyways,
31:38
as a quote tweet from someone so and so far,
31:42
I don't think I've missed a damn tweet. That's the thing,
31:45
is like, you don't even really need to follow him
31:47
to see every single thing that he tweets at some point,
31:50
whether you like it or not, it's beautiful. Yeah, that's
31:53
a good point, and it is beautiful. You are right about.
31:57
I feel like Twitter makes certain assumptions about based on
32:00
the fact that I still follow him, and therefore it's
32:03
like a lower bar for his tweets to make it
32:07
into whatever they're like algorithmically selected feat is that they
32:12
that they give me. But I'm still seeing a lot
32:15
of him just being like, we won. We're gonna win
32:17
this one. We're gonna win that one. We did it, folks. Yeah. So,
32:22
one thing that actually made it into the news and
32:25
not just was like his load of tweets, was that
32:30
he actually reached out to the Michigan Election Board people
32:35
who had certified the vote after saying they weren't going
32:38
to certify it because they were racist, and then they
32:43
attempted to rescind their certification, which seems like it should
32:47
be illegal for the president of the actual United States
32:51
too call like these low level like election workers and
32:56
like pressure them to cheat for him in the election.
33:00
Blamed or someone claimed that he just called one of
33:03
them because he wanted to check on her safety after
33:06
she had received threats and like either was doxed or
33:10
received threats of doxing. But um, I don't think so
33:14
that doesn't seem like something he would do. It's so
33:18
it's like I feel like that we talk about stuff
33:21
like this all the time, but it's like, I guess
33:22
that that is just I feel like sometimes when the
33:25
Trump administration does stuff like this, you're like, oh, I
33:27
guess that that is a law that is worth writing down,
33:31
Not like I guess we do have to write that
33:34
one down. And in general, like doxing, there should be
33:37
like better laws in regards to doxing people, because I
33:40
feel like that I don't know so much of that
33:43
kind of area of the law, which I am a
33:46
genius in because I'm a lawyer. Uh uh, seems like
33:51
it doesn't really I don't know. It's it's because old
33:54
people write laws and old people don't know how computers work.
33:57
That's the problem. Uh yeah, this shouldn't be legal to do.
34:00
It's like intimidation. Yes. And did they say why on
34:05
like on what grounds they were rescinding their vote? Yeah?
34:09
I mean their whole thing all along has been like
34:12
the elections and like these votes are like complicated enough
34:16
things that if you just like point to one like
34:20
part of the process that these that the Republicans have
34:24
put in place to make it so that you can
34:26
make it extremely hard for people to vote, you can
34:29
just be like, oh, those signatures don't match up. So
34:31
that's what they're claiming. They're like, the signatures don't match right.
34:35
But I mean when they voted, so they said that
34:38
they're gonna not if I if I get it, this
34:41
is what this is. I think the timeline they said
34:43
they're gonna they aren't going to certify, and everyone was
34:46
like what And then they unanimously certified, and then they
34:50
tried to rescind the certification after Trump called them, right,
34:55
I think, so for what reason were they going to rescind?
34:57
They just change their mind. I think that's right. Okay,
35:01
I feel like I'm gonna need a little more I'm
35:03
gonna need a little more of a reason than just yeah,
35:06
because it's a real no giftbacks at this point, I'm
35:08
glad you said that, because we have them with us
35:10
on the show today, joining us from now the yeah.
35:15
It doesn't seem like we're getting a lot of really
35:18
great logic other than that initial uh, you know thing,
35:23
And then they're like, actually, we thought about it again,
35:25
and like the only reason the rescension was because people
35:30
were being mean to us, isn't it, honey. I feel
35:34
like that's something that I throughout this whole, the whole
35:37
last four years, I've just realized how little do you
35:41
have to offer anything that makes sense, and then if
35:45
you just stand by that, people just let it slide.
35:48
For example, if I want to reschedule a podcast appearance
35:54
or a podcast guest, I feel like I have to
35:57
offer more than just hey, Like I usually give a
36:01
reason why not that, and I'm sure it's not necessary,
36:04
but in general, the way I conduct my life is
36:06
that I want to be rational. I want to make sense.
36:10
All these things are weakness is you know, I don't
36:12
I'm not capricious, But they never offer any of that,
36:17
and then they just stand by it and people just
36:20
accept it. It's kind of it. Yeah, and it is
36:22
bizarre to watch. I mean it's like we've been watching
36:24
it for so long. But they don't give any reason
36:27
for doing stuff like this, and then you just see
36:30
that their base then has to justify it in real time.
36:34
They're like, oh well, yeah, like they don't even say
36:37
this is why I'm doing this awful thing. They're like, oh, well,
36:39
he's probably doing this awful thing because because JP Morgan
36:43
sunk the Titanic or whatever. Right, And there's also literally
36:49
no stakes for them to rescind their certification because the
36:53
as the Michigan Secretary of State said, uh, there is
36:57
no legal mechanism for them to rescind their bout. Their
37:00
job is done where we're onto the next part um
37:02
and it doesn't seem like the whole thing seems like
37:05
they're just putting threads out there just to you know,
37:10
give because they know that their base is going to
37:13
just like grab onto anything and make it into you know,
37:16
it will pick up momentum because that is just how
37:20
like his relationship with his bass work. So they can
37:23
throw these threads out there. They have no legal standing. Uh.
37:27
They then like they're doing a thing. Ri Giuliani, you
37:30
showed up in a courtroom in Pennsylvania and like called
37:34
the judge the wrong name, called the other lawyer. That
37:37
angry man over there, claimed that Biden winning in eleven
37:42
of the biggest cities in America was proof of fraud,
37:44
even though there's like it's nobody like it would have
37:48
been surprising or you know, even suspicious if he hadn't
37:52
one of those cities. Uh, and then got directions to
37:56
the nearest Martini bar and fucked off. And then on
37:58
the way out was like like literally they were talking
38:01
about where the nearest martini like best martini bar in
38:03
town is him? And then Judge Um, he says all
38:06
these public officials that are just like dining al fresco,
38:10
it's I just wanna like, I don't know die. I
38:14
didn't want to die. I do too good. I was disappointed.
38:21
I don't know if you guys have talked about this
38:22
on the show. I was really disappointed to see those
38:24
pictures of Newsom how I like Um. I know people
38:30
have a lot of problems in general. I I like him,
38:32
um to see those pictures of him at French laundry,
38:35
and it looked like an indoor dinner with no mask
38:39
like medical profession. I thought it was out I was
38:44
totally cool with it. I hope it was outdoors. Maybe
38:48
it was outdoors. I don't know if I read something
38:53
that it was like he was getting pressure from donors
38:56
who wanted access to him. You're the fucking governor, do
39:00
like do you? I can't. I mean, I personally cannot
39:03
stand Newsome. I just like, he's just so frustrating. But
39:09
that is just it's so it is really um stunning
39:13
to watch how quickly the like back to normal rhetoric
39:16
is just like whatever, establishment politicians just going back on
39:20
their bullshit. Like it's just it's so fucking frustrating. But
39:24
then the people who are like, see, that's proof that
39:27
there's nothing to worry about. Like, that's not my interpretation
39:30
of it. My interpretation of it is they're willing to
39:34
take a risk, but we shouldn't be taking risks because
39:38
it is scary out there. My interpretation of it is
39:41
that he like doesn't feel the need to play by
39:44
the rules that he's setting. That's what's really frustrating me
39:47
about how this is being handled in in certain states
39:50
and on city levels. Is like, it's just like the whatever.
39:53
The mayor of l A and the governor of the
39:56
state are constantly being like, wear a mask, it's not
39:59
that hard and trying to keep people's spirits up by
40:02
being like we're all in this together, We've got this.
40:05
But they will not take any decisive action like that.
40:08
It's just like forcing it on the individual, which is
40:12
just like being too cowardly to make a policy like
40:15
they're just they're like, it just drives it. It drives
40:19
me up a wall the way that it's just like,
40:21
I mean, I feel like by his doing that, he
40:23
just demonstrated that he is not willing to play like
40:26
he doesn't view himself as needing to play by the
40:28
own rules that he's constantly signaling undermine his message. I'm
40:32
in Burbank and I get these emails. I signed up
40:34
for these emails from the city, and there was one
40:37
just about how you know the numbers and how there's
40:39
a rise and we all need to be extra careful
40:42
and they're gonna, you know, we're going back to like
40:44
this level of lockdown. And they didn't use the word lockdown,
40:48
but like, as such, here are the changes, and it's
40:50
like you know, businesses and restaurants that operate indoors will
40:55
have to cap at it like and and it's like
40:57
all this all this stuff where it's like that is
41:00
not gonna do it like a little more. And I
41:03
know that there's a cost benefit analysis and that it's
41:07
bad for businesses, and you know, I get that it's
41:09
way more complicated than just me sitting here saying we
41:12
need to shut down, but healthwise we do. Yeah, it's
41:16
like there's a there's a body count attached to them
41:19
not doing anything. It's just uh, but being failed on
41:23
such a gigantic level, it's just, uh, it makes me
41:27
sweaty all day. Well. One thing that I think we
41:29
also have to consider, guys, is that there is a
41:31
war on Thanksgiving happening. Uh. Yeah, So this was actually
41:37
something a writer jam pointed out that Uh last year,
41:42
there was an article in I think the Huffing and
41:46
Post that was basically raising the question of like, how
41:52
what is the carbon footprint of Thanksgiving? Because it's the
41:56
biggest travel day of the year. People are flying all
41:58
over the place. We go, we like gorge on food
42:03
and then you know, fly back home. So what is
42:08
that doing to the environment. Doesn't matter. And there their
42:14
conclusion was like there it is. They're They're like, yeah,
42:17
it's not good, but like we still do it. Uh.
42:21
But so Fox and Friends last year were all over
42:25
this ship. Tucker Carlson was all over it. Cancel culture
42:29
has turned on the holiday Thanksgiving, telling America cancel Thanksgiving
42:35
because of the carbon footprint. Uh that that's that was
42:39
their analysis of that. So they have been just fucking
42:42
dying for a war on Thanksgiving, like they've been creating
42:46
one even when there wasn't one, when people weren't asking
42:49
you not to travel on Thanksgiving. So now that we
42:52
actually have a life and depth reason to not travel
42:55
on Thanksgiving, they are aroused. Are so excited about this,
43:02
they're getting frothy. Baby, They've got a fart on for
43:06
the death of Thanksgiving. Yeah. So it usually obviously involves
43:11
traveling across the country, congregating indoors with groups of other people,
43:15
some of whom may be older. So the government is
43:19
now saying like, maybe don't do that, Maybe don't travel
43:23
across the country to sit in a room without masks
43:27
with your elderly relatives and who they're mad, I'm mad
43:33
about this even even Mississippi issued a statement where the
43:40
Mississippi Free Press posted a thing from their government saying,
43:44
after big Thanksgiving dinners, plans, small Christmas funerals, health experts worn.
43:49
Which I appreciate that coming from Mississippi. Um, but how
43:55
exciting from like an ad copy standpoint that they can
43:58
come up with something so clever and so sinked. Yeah,
44:01
shout out to Mississippi. Uh. But turning point USA is
44:05
Charlie kirk Um. You know, I was very excited to
44:10
address this. He did look like a divorced father who
44:16
was incredibly hungover in the in the video where he
44:19
was addressing it. But he said, the left hates Thanksgiving
44:23
because they think there's nothing you should be thankful for
44:26
in America. They're using the virus as an excuse not
44:30
to be thankful, uh, which I don't know, it's ridiculous. Sorry.
44:37
He also said that Thanksgiving is a religious holiday where
44:40
we thank God. That is not my understanding of it. No,
44:44
it's just like a weird celebration of American colonialism. That's
44:48
not a religion. Well, I mean I guess for some
44:50
people it is, but like that's I think it's a
44:53
passion for something thing yeah. Um. But going back to that,
45:00
having to post article from a while ago where they
45:03
were looking at the carbon footprint of Thanksgiving and what
45:06
they realized was like, like you said, it's travel, that's
45:10
like the the biggest footprint. If I were a Turkey,
45:13
I'd be like, hello, what about us? It's not the
45:17
travel about this massacre. So I say that as someone
45:22
who does eat turkey, but I don't feel good about it.
45:25
Monster it is. It is like, I don't know, I
45:29
feel like, at least we have some idea of how
45:31
this argument is going to be framed. Because the war
45:34
on Christmas media has been going on for so long,
45:37
they're like, oh, they just have pivoted to a different holiday.
45:42
But it is it is so like bizarre that I
45:46
feel like a lot of the arguments are framed like, well,
45:49
everyone on the left hates their family and love and
45:53
America here a Disease's Um, it is a hoax, obviously, uh,
46:04
but just honestly, it's just a way that they can
46:08
micro chip us all and sterilize us. Because I'm not
46:12
going to have help saying that for a long time. Yes,
46:14
they're going to punch you in the face and give
46:16
you a bloody nose because you aren't doing the micro
46:19
chipping and then they're gonna send you to heaven. Uh. Context,
46:27
it's how they talk. Yeah, I mean we we talked
46:32
about how Kayleie mcnahey was saying that it's Orwellian to
46:37
ask people not to gather in large groups over the holiday.
46:41
Fox Fox Business host Charles Paine called Cuomo's gathering restrictions
46:47
a separation of families just as like an actual like
46:52
fuck you too. Yeah. Um, By the way, how is
46:59
that I have read everything in Orwell's body of work,
47:03
but how is saying not to gather with your family
47:06
or Willian? Like? Did that happen in any of his books?
47:09
I don't. There's a lot that these Orwellian, but I
47:11
don't think. I don't think preserving holiday gatherings was or
47:17
I don't think we're well tackled that. I don't. I mean,
47:20
I wouldn't be caught dead reading a book, but I
47:23
don't think that doesn't sound like it. I don't know.
47:28
I'm gonna I'm gonna be reading Andrew Cuomo's book, just kidding.
47:32
Do you see that he's writing a book? It's out?
47:35
I think it's Yeah, I think it just got replaced
47:37
about how he successfully managed the pandemic that is still
47:41
going on. Leadership in the time of COVID. It's his
47:45
sequel to Love in the time of cholera, where you
47:47
just serve finished the fucking job you before you cash
47:52
in on it. I hate everybody. Well, yeah, it's a
47:55
form of magical realism. I guess um. Laura Ingram is claiming,
48:02
I don't know why why am I continuing to because
48:05
it's so odious what they're saying. It's so silly and ridiculous,
48:10
and and they're all saying basically the same thing, and
48:15
the followers are eating it up. And actually, you know,
48:18
I mean it's so basic this thing of like the
48:22
way that you get people to follow you is you
48:26
make them believe that they are being persecuted and that
48:29
someone is trying to take away their freedom and their
48:33
way of life. And they're all following this playbook and
48:37
it's working and it's gross. Yeah, it is working though.
48:41
I mean, she did nailis because she pointed out that
48:43
we worship at the altar of Fauci, which I don't
48:46
know if you guys have set up your altars yet
48:49
for the Thanksgiving holiday, but I have one in each room,
48:55
have set up some yeah, some candles and just a
48:58
picture of him shirtless. Photoshop work is uh, but in
49:05
the hours. So one thing jam a writer who is
49:08
from Canada, pointed out is that Canada celebrates Thanksgiving in October,
49:14
so we've already had a North American Thanksgiving under our belt.
49:19
And there was a spike in COVID cases afterwards that
49:24
people think, uh might be the reason because people were
49:28
traveling and going to see family on Thanksgiving. Interesting theory.
49:33
I wonder if there's anything to it. M hmm, if
49:36
only there was some way to know. Yes, yes, all right,
49:40
let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
49:45
talk about Christmas decoration. And we're back and Jamie, um,
50:01
I noticed on Twitter that you've been You tweeted a
50:05
truly cursed Christmas tree ornament. Then I I can't believe exists.
50:14
And and you are telling me that there are more
50:16
of these, is what I'm bothering. So this year is uh,
50:21
my first year living with my partner and living in
50:24
a place that a Christmas tree could sort of fit.
50:28
I like have been shopping for like a fake apartment
50:31
de sized Christmas tree so that is how I came
50:35
across these ornaments. It appears that thousands of them have
50:39
been sold. Uh, and they're all about I'm going to
50:43
drop some of them into the chat and then just
50:45
kind of describe them. But just keep in mind for
50:48
people listening that every word I'm about to say is
50:50
in a different font and uh, and and that it's
50:56
accompanied by a cute little clip art. As you get
51:00
my first one, it says twenty it's and I have
51:06
to imagine this has to be the size of a
51:07
dinner plate because it says so many things. It says,
51:10
shop online, wash those hands clean and organized? What day
51:13
is it? Binge? Watching zoom? What's your temp? That one's sinister,
51:18
stay home or upside pickup home workouts survived? The TP
51:23
shortage that is also very harped on is the t
51:26
P shortage. Face masks flatten, the curve, YouTube game Nights
51:31
and my you tube Glenn, And then it just says
51:35
global pandemic. And that's an ornament you can put on
51:40
your tree if you And then there here's another one.
51:43
They're all sorry real quick is what is design tube?
51:49
Is that? Is that some new thing that the pandemic
51:52
gave us you Tube. So as the designer of these ornaments,
51:56
I'm really hoping we can get some organic interest in
52:00
the in the parent market in YouTube via these ornaments.
52:05
So I'm hoping we can really get everyone excited about
52:07
YouTube right in time for the holidame. Can I just
52:10
say how much I hate this? I mean, I just
52:14
couldn't hate it more. I hate that they're making. They're like,
52:18
this is like the but first coffee of a global
52:21
pandemic with death. It's so it's like this is like
52:26
something you'd make of with like inside jokes from your
52:28
family reunion. In this is making a bar. That's the
52:34
funt game being delivered here. It's very like wine o'clock
52:37
kind of graphics design. Uh So, the next one is
52:42
says a year to remember. This one's formatted like a checklist,
52:45
but there is a lot of clip art. A year
52:47
to remember toilet paper shortage check, bask wearing check, hand
52:52
sanitizer check, drive by parties check, herbside pickup, work from
52:57
home quarantine, travel band so distancing online school sports canceled
53:02
and worldwide pandemic check. And then this is it looks
53:08
like zero zero, So who can remember? Who can forget zo.
53:16
I hate this too. The last one I'd like to
53:18
share is uh maybe the worst one. It's it's the
53:22
twelve Days of coronavirus. In so it Allison is actually
53:29
physically getting illed. I won't I won't saying the whole thing,
53:33
but it goes you can, Okay, Okay, you know, Okay,
53:40
I've set myself up for this. I did. I was
53:43
just cackling when I because they're all on like the
53:47
best selling ornaments, Like they're like, these are the top ones.
53:53
A lot of people that are going to have these
53:56
dregs of man No, they're like the top. Okay, so
54:01
on the twelve the twelve Days of Christmas Corona gave
54:04
to me is what we're Yeah, the pandemic gave to me.
54:07
Twelve canceled plans, eleven face masks, ten sanitizers, murder horn
54:14
nine murder hornets, eight zoom call, seven mental breakdown six
54:18
feet apart. That's the five curbside pick up, four quarantines,
54:25
three travel restrictions to Karen's complaining, and a message shortage
54:30
of TP. It's a real that's a really bold move
54:36
to say two Karents complaining for an ornament that is
54:38
clearly big marketed at Karen's. Yeah, like self aware Karen's.
54:47
So those are yeah, those are the most cursed coronavirus
54:51
themed ornaments. Um they are. They are topping the charts
54:55
on Jeff Bezos his little experiment and yeah, they're they're
55:01
they're the worship I've ever seen. But they're all all
55:03
three of those are in the top ten right now.
55:05
Now is he the YouTube guy? I think he's managed
55:11
to get to YouTube. I think he should probably serve
55:14
the channel though I think it would be very well received.
55:16
These are all like if there was a conversation starters
55:20
for dummies like, these are all like how about the
55:24
murder hornets? Already imagining a scenario where I discovered that
55:30
someone I like has these ornaments. I mean I'm buying
55:33
all of them. Okay, I don't know. I don't presume
55:36
to say you'd like me, but these will all be
55:39
on my Christmas tree I have. I have found all
55:43
three of these off of Amazon. Um, if you're not
55:47
if you're not doing Amazon, you can still get these
55:50
hideous ornaments. And I feel like I'm going to get one. Yeah,
55:57
I'm trying to figure out just as like a relic
56:00
not as I'm not even gonna hang it up. I'm
56:02
just gonna put it in a drawer and then someday
56:04
my children will be like, what's that and I'll have
56:07
to sing that song to them. Why do you think
56:11
YouTube it's on that one? Just I'm just I know
56:15
this is not the most the silliest thing. Why did
56:18
they just find out about YouTube during the pandemic? Do
56:22
you think? Well, as the graphic designer, I just learned
56:24
about YouTube earlier this year, and so it's been it's
56:28
been a big year for me and YouTube. And I'm
56:31
gonna I'm not gonna describe this one, but there's there's
56:34
just so many there's so many fonts and YouTube is
56:38
uh not, there's more not the YouTube plont but there's
56:44
more than one ornament that says YouTube on it, as
56:47
as if we were all as if we've all agreed
56:50
on this. I don't. I don't quite get it. Did
56:52
they be the idea is like you finally have time
56:55
to stay home and watch YouTube like we've always dreamed.
56:59
But there do they think that that's what people who
57:03
are doing? Do they think TikTok is YouTube? Oh? Is
57:09
TikTok YouTube? How do we how would we ever know?
57:15
There's no way to tell you, guys, that's actually a
57:18
good call. The font situation in the one you just
57:21
sent is awful, like many Essential Workers is in a
57:26
like horror movie font um virtual learning just the use
57:33
of white spain. And I'm not a graphic designer at all,
57:35
but the use of white space under virtual learning is
57:37
very upsetting to me. I hate this one. I hate
57:39
the most, just aesthetics face masks. There's too many Sarah's happening.
57:44
It's very thermometer isn't first of all, it just is
57:47
thermometer in unreadable cursive. Wait where's that? I just sent
57:55
a there's so many thermometer? And what about these thermometers?
58:01
I think that's one that even like the worst like
58:05
conversation starter attempt like would still be like, what huh
58:11
right about this year? Right with the uh the thermometer? Right,
58:18
you know? And these essential workers? What are you talking about?
58:24
It's brutal? Is that? Does that a birthday parade? Birthday? Yeah?
58:29
I think very bad job of writing parade that is
58:32
like that is a nightmare. I think the horror font
58:37
that says essential workers is just straight up offensive. That's
58:41
really that one is a bad one. They didn't do
58:44
it in a I hadn't even noticed that, Like, but
58:48
it is a total that yeah, like someone wrote that
58:52
in blood on a mirror. Yeah. Um, I'm sorry that
58:56
I showed these to you, but I couldn't keep the
59:00
fact that someone somewhere is making a ton of money
59:04
off making these hideous ornaments. And uh, and people seem
59:09
to be on board. If you've purchased one of these ornaments,
59:13
reach out to me. I mean, this is I'm sure
59:18
there will be like more professionally designed and like work
59:22
chopped covid ornaments coming at us, But this just feels
59:27
like the the internet writ large, like people who use
59:32
who do their graphic design in Microsoft work like found
59:37
this shortage before anybody else and was like okay, and
59:41
now everyone's like must buy and so gus such a
59:46
sinister market. I know, it's it's so funny that this is.
59:51
People are so desperate for this stuff, they're just eating
59:54
it up. When I was a kid, I was very
59:57
very into Michael Jackson. I did I don't think it
1:00:00
well knew yet that he was problematic. Um, but this
1:00:03
was yet, you know, ages before that, and we were
1:00:06
going to not Berry Farm and I had something that
1:00:08
was sort of popular among crafty people at the time,
1:00:11
which was a button maker. You could make your own buttons,
1:00:14
and it was like the button makers have come a
1:00:17
long way, but at this point there was like all
1:00:19
these different layers of like you do the paper and
1:00:22
then the backing and the plastic, and then you had
1:00:24
to pull this crank um to put it all together,
1:00:27
which I was not strong enough to do. You know
1:00:29
what I'm talking about. Yeah, So I made all these
1:00:33
Michael jack because I was like, I want I'm going
1:00:34
Tonotsberry Farm and I want to display my love of
1:00:37
Michael Jackson. So I made all these homemade Michael Jackson. Yeah.
1:00:40
I know it could be anywhere, this homemade Michael Jackson buttons,
1:00:44
thinking that I was original. And then I got there
1:00:47
and there were all these cool, older teenagers with their
1:00:50
professional Listen, if you were going to Notsberry Farm at
1:00:55
this time and you liked Michael Jackson, you had to
1:00:57
wear buttons. I didn't know that. I thought i'd invent.
1:01:00
Then there was all these older, cool teenagers with their
1:01:03
professional store bought Michael Jackson buttons, and my homemade Michael
1:01:07
Jackson buttons to their store bought ones? Are these ornaments
1:01:11
to look? Yeah? Yeah, I mean these are I need
1:01:18
to own these? Like these are these are the good ones?
1:01:22
These are the ones that you're going to be like
1:01:24
bragging that you have. Don't wait for the smooth, the shiny, fancy.
1:01:32
There's establishment, there's like there's like the resin ones where
1:01:37
Santa's holding a sack full of cleaning supplies and like
1:01:43
there's it's but those are those are no fun. There's
1:01:47
a lot of Rudolph in a mask, Santa in a mask,
1:01:50
Snoopy in a mask, the Grinch in a mask. Really
1:01:53
every sinister christ Christmas property they haven't in a mask
1:01:57
on an ornament for twenty dollars. But the best part
1:01:59
about these horrible ornaments is that they all cost four
1:02:02
dollars because at least they're like self aware. What are
1:02:07
Michael Jackson? Was it? Alison? Uh? This was thriller? Yeah?
1:02:13
I got some to Michael Jackson during the Bad era
1:02:16
that my friend and I did a concert where we
1:02:18
lip syncd lip lip sync lip synced to the Bad
1:02:22
album and invited all our neighbors over and were they
1:02:25
into it? Nor seven? And they like were actively like unimpressed.
1:02:34
They're like, oh, this is why are you making us
1:02:37
watch this? Anyways, we're having a reunion concert coming up,
1:02:42
so people will want the Wow. We should do it virtually.
1:02:46
People need that during this time more than ever. Go on, Jack,
1:02:51
here's an idea. Go on YouTube and stream it there.
1:02:55
I think a lot of people catching on. Yeah, a
1:02:57
lot of people are catching on. Hell yeah, Alison. It's
1:03:00
been a pleasure as always having you on the daily Zeitgeist.
1:03:04
Where can people find you? Follow you? Uh? Follow me
1:03:08
on Twitter and Instagram at Alison Rosen. Just one L
1:03:11
and an I so a L I s O n Rosen. Um.
1:03:14
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1:03:18
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1:03:21
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1:03:24
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1:03:28
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1:03:30
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1:03:33
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1:03:36
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1:03:39
comedian Greg fitz Simmons is called Childish, So go check
1:03:42
out both of those. Nice. Is there a tweet or
1:03:45
some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes?
1:03:49
Can I plug one more thing of mine? Yeah? Um,
1:03:51
thank you? Sorry. I have a book out. It is
1:03:54
called Tropical Attire, Encouraged and other phrases that scare me.
1:03:57
And it's just essays, funny essays. Um okay. So a
1:04:00
tweet that I've been enjoying. It's by Eden Dranger and
1:04:03
it says this is a pro hot dog account. If
1:04:06
you don't like hot dogs, fuck you. And I don't
1:04:10
even like hot dogs. I just appreciate the sixcinct sentiment.
1:04:14
Just it cracked me up. I love I love a
1:04:17
hard stance on a on a non topic. Yes, that
1:04:20
is kind of what my So the Monday show is
1:04:22
an interview on my show, and the the Thursday show was
1:04:24
like a panel group show and it really is just
1:04:28
talking about like mynu sha and having opinions about it.
1:04:32
Hell yeah yeah, Jamie. Where can people find you? What's
1:04:36
a tweet you've been enjoying? Uh? You can find me
1:04:40
on Twitter at Jamie loft as help, Instagram at Jamie
1:04:44
Cray Superstar. My new podcast, Lolita Podcast, comes out on Monday.
1:04:52
We'll talk more about that tomorrow, I think, And I'm
1:04:56
going to shout out it's my best friend's birthday today
1:04:59
and she has an amazing Twitter account, so I'm gonna
1:05:02
shout out her entire account in general. Her name is
1:05:05
Julia Claire at oh Julia tweets. The tweet I will
1:05:10
choose is her tweet that says, once again find myself
1:05:15
thinking about my favorite headline of all time. And it's
1:05:17
a Fox News story that says society is creating a
1:05:21
new crop of alpha women who are unable to love
1:05:28
almost god. Um foxes fast right, all right, let's see
1:05:34
a tweet I've been enjoying a tweeted getting bored of
1:05:38
six and nine and four twenty. They should release new
1:05:40
funny numbers tonight. You can find me on Twitter at
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The Edge of New Clothes by Open Mike Eagle from
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