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Speaker 1
We're back, and the Pelicans are looking like legitimate title contenders,
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and it appears to have some other teams in their
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collective feelings, which I understand. Meanwhile, the Celtics continue to
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dominate in the Eastern Conference, and we'll get into that
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and plenty. Moore with the co host of the Dunk
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Tales podcast, James Hollis on today's episode. I'm Miles Gray
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and I'm Jack O'Brien and this is my Jack got bab.
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Welcome to the show, y'all, Thanks so much for coming bye.
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If I said, wait, welcome so much for coming by,
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Thank welcome much, so much for coming by, and welcome
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so much, and thank us for welcome. Therefore we should
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welcome our guests. The man who comes from Trinny grew
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up in South Carolina and was a Bulls fan, then
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switched to Celtics once magic, I said, Magic, Michael Jordan's retired.
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Please welcome. Mr James Hollis. How are you so? I
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didn't know on my my business peeping our front street.
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Yeah we had to know because the second Jabari was like, Hey,
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we're gonna be talking about the Celtics next week, and
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I said, okay, what's who's the guest And he said, oh,
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you know it's James, you know he's he was He's
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from saying yeah, good. But I'm like, wait, what I'm not?
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And obviously that's why I said, and see, that's why
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Trinny came in the bio. Now do I have that right?
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You were born in Trinidad and I was born triniad
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big blood across Nixon over here. Man was brilling right,
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that is correct, right, sir, So let the records show
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that my man is from Trinny. Okay, I played the
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fifth Wait so that when you switched to the Celtics,
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they were they were rough. Yeah, it was like the
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mL car Rick Petino era. Yeah, that's the you know,
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Walter Walk McCarty and then yeah, yeah, all right, my
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dad was in there. Jim O'Brien coached them for a
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little while. Yeah, I'll be down. Yeah, and then along
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Dark Winter for Celtics fans, the Big Three, Dan KG
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came into Yeah. I was like, wait, what does this
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roster look like again? And I'm like, yep, yep, Dana Barrows, Barrows,
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Tis Edni Purvis Ellison stand up, nervous, nervous purpose exactly
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he was the number one pick, wasn't he coming out
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of Louisville? Never nervous purviose that he was the first Yeah,
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eighty nine and Travis Knight. Look at look at them,
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look at these, look at the gang altogether. Wait, so
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what was that? Like? I mean, so we always like
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to ask up top, you know, like what's your what
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was your fandom journey? Essentially? I mean I basically cut
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my teeth on MJ and the Bulls. That's when I
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first really got to the league. And uh, look I
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have the re worse about it. Once MJ left, I
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jumped ship. I didn't. I'm not I'm not watching I'm
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not watching this trash. And did you did you like
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strategically jumped to the Celtics because they had had so
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much success, And you were like, all right, no, I
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like Paul Pierce, like like Antonine Walker for some reason,
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Antwine Walker. You know, I think I had a pair
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of shoes and people my favorite players and so like
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even though they or fun to watch. So yeah, Employee
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number eight was that was that his? He had like
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some nickname that just never got off the ground. It
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was like, yeah, something, I mean, it was all manufactured
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by Adidas, right right, they really climed some employee that
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I make baskets. Wow, this is in the feat you
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wear era of Adida's shoots out of Me, right, because yeah,
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that's when they had their their basketball commercials on Point.
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What was that like, you know seeing Rick Fox kind
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of leave y'all and then go to the Lakers. Did
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that hurt or you don't? You don't even care? No,
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I don't care. I've never been a super emotional fan, like,
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you know, wow, how do you do that? Because every
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time we have all of our guests come on, they're
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all like emotionally healthy. They're like adults about their basketball.
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I'm over here like wedding my pants because the Clippers
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scored a basket, you know what I mean. So, like
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I don't know how to do it. I don't know
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how to parse through it all. I just don't get that, man,
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Which is I find like super fans like fascinating because like, yeah,
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it sucks the lose, like we lost the finals that year.
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This sucks. And my friends like, oh, you must be
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so piste off, like we were just in the finals, bro,
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Like where were y'all? Man? Like, why would I be
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piste off and trying to talk trash the Lakers, my friends?
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Who was a Laker? You like, what why would I
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Why are you trying to trash talk me? You didn't
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you were you didn't make the playoffs? What do you so? Yeah,
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you operate from wisdom like you're like, but comparatively, I
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have nothing to be upset about, but you have everything
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to be I mean, think about where Celtics worked last January,
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you know what I mean, at one point eighteen and
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twenty one, and go from that to the finals, like
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to be sad about it. Stucked watching Jayson Tatum play
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like you know, Gerald Wallace, you know that stuck watching
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him get locked up by Wiggins. That wasn't a lot
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of fun. You know that we saw the camp last
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weekend a couple of times, but you know that happen.
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What are your feelings on the Celtics because like over
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here we're like, man there, who's who's gonna stop them?
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But I know, you know, the last couple of last
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couple of games been of a bit of a hiccup.
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The last couple of games it looked identical to last
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season where and took off. So that lets me know
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that there's still remnants of whatever kind of hanging around
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the team. I'm a huge Jalen Brown fan. I like
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Jayleen more than Tatum, Like, that's my guy. I've been
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a big market smart guy since he's there. So those
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are my two favorite Celtics. Um I get that Tatum
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is the Rolls Royce, but I like the other two better.
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Um So, yeah, I have a good feeling about him.
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I didn't. I've been kind of waiting for the other
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shooter drop all season, you know, and I think the
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last two games almost maybe I've been a little self
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fulfilling prophecy, like, man, they can't be this good. This
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is ridiculous. I didn't think that shooting, really, that shooting
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might not be sustainable. They had four guys over and
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like they were just bombing. I thought it would come
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back down to earth a little bit. I didn't think
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they would do what they just did. That's working against
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the Suns and then the Clippers. Those are really too
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bad stinkers. Two real stinkers though. You mean the Warriors
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and the I'm sorry the Warriors. Yeah, yeah, he beat
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up on the Sun. I was gonna say, did that
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kind of for me? It looked like once that game happened,
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I was like, oh boy, here we go. And then
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it looked like up the Warriors came, and then a
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lot of fans are like, man, Tatum's got the Warriors
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living rent flee in his head. It's true. I think
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he wants so bad to overcome it that he he
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looked want it too bad. And then last game he
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gets the Clippers, same kind of thing. The Clippers just
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put two bodies at him and he gets I feel
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like he gets into his own head a little bit,
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and I mean he doesn't just play. I can see
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him try to do moves and like, why would you
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just yours into that guy? But in his head he
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was already thinking I'm driving, I'm gonna do to yours
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DAF I mean right right. Yeah. So the thing we
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talked about, I think on last week's episode is that
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their offensive efficiency, their offense this season, like last season,
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the thing that really was the engine of their kind
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of breakout success. Halfway through the season when yeah, I
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think he said eighteen twenty one, they were they were
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not a special team, and then their defense just jumped
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up a level and they became one of the best
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defensive teams of all time and suddenly they were like unbeatable.
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And this season their offense has been that so home,
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their offense is just weigh head and shoulders. When they're
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at home, there it's head and shoulders above everybody else
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in the NBA. And when it's away, they have the
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fourth best offensive efficiency in the league. So overall they're
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still heading shoulders above everybody else. But it feels like
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there's something where they're just like a little more comfortable
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at home, which obviously is not out of the ordinary.
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But do you think in watching the games, do you
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feel like there's something repeatable. Do you think like the
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Warriors or the Clippers like figured out something or is
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it just there there's a mental block there. Um, I
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think the big thing was out or for being out
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for both. Now I call him it's it's a funny term,
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but I didn't really said. I call him the offensive lubricant. Yeah,
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because he makes everything so yeah, he makes everything to
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run smoother. You know, he's a just smart player. And
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then defensively, especially against the Warriors, Blake Griffin and Luke
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Cornette can't be on the floor and they they had
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to be on the floor and and and up and
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play and even Jordan Pool just feasted right there in
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the deep drop. So these guys are coming off and
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take a shooting practice and they got comfortable, and that's
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what happened against the Warriors. Um Al Horford kind of
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mitigates that, and then rob Williams help mitigate that. So yeah, defensively,
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I think Boston's problem right now they let the game
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affect them. So when they get behind, they start playing
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a little tight on. You start playing a little hero
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ball only Jalen Brown doesn't seem to really care things
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like I'm going to scoop, But yeah, Tatum gets in
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his head a little bit. I think Malcolm Brodden trying
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to do too much last game, So yeah, I think
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they got something to figure out. Jayleen Brown gets better
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every season, which is like this season he's an averaging
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twenty nine point eight points, nine point six boards, and
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four point two assists a contest I guess in the
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month of December. But he's he's just getting so he
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just gets so much better season after season. Do you
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think the thing that I think I'm most excited to
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see about when Robert Williams returns is do you think
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he will be doing the contest from the paint the
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Cornett contest to contest where he jumps when he's not
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even close, just to like some of the concentration. I've
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seen one player make a shot when he did that.
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It was a guy from tront what's it, I think,
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Gary Trent Jr. I think, yeah, I think I saw
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him maker three. Other than that, I literally haven't seen
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a single of the person make a shot. And it's
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funny because now even like they're talking about it on
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the games, Um no, I doubt anybody else and gonna
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start doing that. Yeah, did someone else do it? I
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thought someone else tried it? Yeah, Marcus, Marcus, I know
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on the other night we talked about the last episode,
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but I could have swore Now maybe I'm just yeah,
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taking that left over excitement like it's becoming a thing.
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I mean, the proof is in the pudding, Like, yeah,
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people miss shots when he does it somehow, and he's
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done it a lot and people a lot of shots,
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so it's it's it's uh, it sounds dumb, and I
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know that, um what's his name, TNT guy, Jeff. I
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know Jeff Van Gundy was making fun of him how
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ridiculous it was. But but it works. I Mean that's
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what's so funny. Like, sometimes the most effective things are
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just things that are right in front of you, Like man,
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that looks foolish, and you're like, you're actually blocking their
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vital moment of seeing the basket when they're like, you
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know whatever. But it's because, like we talked about how
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Shacks did, I'm not shooting Granny free throws because it
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wasn't cool. Yeah, you know, and that Shack you could
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have scored like a billion more points if I gotta
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be cool. So it looked cool, but I don't worry.
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My fused wrist is all good. Check this out. I'm
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just gonna push it straight there and make Charles Oakley
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look like Mark Price or something. It's also like Shane
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Battier did that. One of his secret hacks was he
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would put his hand directly in the face of the
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shooter so that they couldn't see the basket, so they yeah,
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there there might be something there. There's also this basketball
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documentary called Basketball where they just try and distract the
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players well shooting. Yeah, Matt Parker and Tray stone Man
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really slept on in the league. Would the best for you? James?
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What's the end rule with the Celtics, like we're ending up.
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Are you saying, are we getting to the finals? It's
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it's gonna stop at the conference finals. What do you think? So?
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I'm very much a pragmatic basketball fan, where I know
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to make the finals, you can have all the talent
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in the world, but it takes a combination of luck, talent, discipline, endurance,
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mental stamina. All these things have to be in the
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in the gumbo and the right ingredients, because not only
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luck for you to you know, hit shots right down,
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You're gonna run into an opponent that has somebody injured,
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gonna run to an opponent that has might suspended, opponent
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with somebody in a deep funk. It's gonna happen. Last year,
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there's a confluence of events that led to Boston making
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the finals. The chances of that happening again are so
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low that I wouldn't be disappointed if they didn't. I
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want them to, and I think they have to talent
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to what we all will know. Rob Williams health is
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a question. Just a couple of years ago, Jalen Brown
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heard himself before the playoffs and didn't get to play.
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All it takes is one badly spring ankle. All it
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takes is one uh pulled hamstring. All it takes is
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one concussion protocol at the wrong time. So I know
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the chances are really really low, but I think all
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the ingredients are there for Boston to do it. Okay, Now,
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when you're sitting a top the league like the Celtics
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currently are, I think in a lot of people's estimation,
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but like, just like you know, sitting up looking at
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the challengers, like, I think you have a unique vantage
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point as to you can tell us who scares you
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when you're looking around the league, like who who actually
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scares you? Because the Celtics are the in my opinion,
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the best team in the league, and when that's the
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team you're rooting for, you have a confidence. But you
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also have like an increased heightened sensitivity to like who's
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actually dangerous around the league? I'm curious to hear what
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are the teams that that frighten you as a Celtics fan. Milwaukee, Um,
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your honest is a force in nature. And while Boston
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did a decent job, but they still barely escaped with
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the scared their teeth last year to playoff Chris Middleton
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being back. They're gonna be tough. I do. I'm gonna
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walk in. After all, this thing with Boston and the
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Milwaukee had look great. I think Milwaukee but a game
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behind Boston right now. When Middleton came back, he was playing,
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I think I was watching his second game back. He
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was just hitting threes that are the most contested three.
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It's just a skill that like he has unlike anybody else,
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Like it's just a bad shot from anybody else, and
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he's just you know, he doesn't like elevate that much.
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He just has a quick release and he will shoot
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it directly in your face like that. That really put
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me back in the Milwaukee's really dangerous. Something about him
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playing Boston, he turns into prime freaking almost t mac
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or something. I'm thinking there was a couple of games
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that I remember when like he hit a shot I
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could turn around over Marcus Smart from like thirty feet
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at the buzzer to go in overtime. And Yeah, it's
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something about seeing Boston Green, Kelly Green, he just kind
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of he goes bonkers. Obviously, the Warriors, the wars are
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in their head right now. They're they're in their head.
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Jaylen Brown said that at the press conference at the
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last game that he thinks that we wanted to win
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this game too badly. We had a circled on you know,
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on our on our calendars, and we were pressed thing.
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We played a little tight. So yeah, that the words
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that wanted to sit in their head. You gotta win
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the games that you want to win. So in my experience,
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you gotta learn to win those because, like I feel like,
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especially if I'm in the NBA Finals, I'm gonna want
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to win that game the first Personally, I don't want to.
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I don't want to lose that when a lot of
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people are watching. Yeah, I know we've all seen somebody
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who tried. You try too hard and you end up
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screwing it up. I'm number one tried too hard guys. Yeah, totally.
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Those are two of the real ones. We're not scared
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than that. They shouldn't be scared than nets. They've they've
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proven that they can deal with the nets anytime. They're
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just two disciplines over the nets. Philly, obviously you're scared of.
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But we don't have to talk about that, um any
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anything on the any other teams at West. I mean,
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you know what, you could say that, but when Philly
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has their three guys all when Maxi's right, you know,
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Hardens hard but in beads and beat, So they're gonna
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they have to have a healthy respect for Philly. Hardens
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Harden but in beads and bed. Yeah, Like, that's just
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so much knowledge of the NBA tied up in that. Yeah. Um,
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in the West, No, uh no, not really. I mean
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I think Boston has the horses to go with anybody.
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They're deep, they have a lot of sighs, and the
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wings their range e, they have shooting. You know, once
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Rob comes back, they're gonna have you know, him and
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al Man in the middle. You know, I think maybe
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Boston needs one more like Josh Richardson would be great,
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another wing to guard kind of defender off the bench.
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But it is what it is. Yeah, all right, Well,
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let's talk about the hottest team out west, right, let's
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do it. Yeah, the Pelicans. Yeah, nine and one over
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the last ten as of this recording, twelve and three
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in the last fift team. Yeah, Zion is playing angry.
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We haven't really seen Zion we we we we We've
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seen him play like he was just for for the
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first part of the season. He was just like excited
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to be back out to the point that like it
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was the first time I've seen a player just play
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with a giant smile plaster on their face for an
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entire NBA basketball game. That Son's game, though, he's he
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was villain. Yeah. The dunks. The dunks alone, I mean,
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turn over this one in the fourth quarter, second chance points. Yeah,
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there's a lot of in this match, a lot of
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people feeling what Zion was about to do again, another one,
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Zion ceiling, Zion slamming, stole it with two hands, and
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then get out the way, sir. The controversial one where
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they were mad because the game was over. You know,
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do you know you guys remember when Chris Paul a
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couple of years ago, we're playing against Portlands and they
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were up and the game was over, and he went
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to the layup as pets Budgers and Dame said something
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to him and he had that little what what I
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do look in his face. Yeah, you don't want dunking
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points in them? Yeah, Chris Paul will try to make
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a lap right before that. That's going to read exactly
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got the ball game was over because you tried it.
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It's like I wouldn't have done anything if you hadn't,
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but I guess here's the deal. And again I love
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it because at the end of the game, you know
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they're going, like, if the ball gets designed, you're Antonio
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Daniels on the play on the play call going oh no.
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It's my favorite part of the clip. He's like, don't
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do well, don't do it. So Zion. Seven seconds left,
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Chris Paul comes down, misses a layup, the the Pelicans
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are up nine, is the game's over, and and then
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Zion just kind of leaks out just here. He goes, no, no,
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and he hit the three sixty windmill, three sixty win. No.
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It was very similar to the Vince Carter dunk that
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opened the most legendary dunk contest performance, except Zion's left handed,
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so he's in that direction and he feels like he's
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gonna do with the reverse the way Vince Card did it.
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But then he brings up with the left hand again
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just to hear the please of no, no, no. That's
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my favorite because he knows they're like, we know Cleveland
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a family guy. When Cleveland's house gets blowing up and
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he falls out the bathtub. No no, no, no, no,
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just one more time, please again. It's more than the
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it's like the setup of him. It's basically, do not
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unleash the power of the crystals. It feels like a
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scene in like a sci fi film of like do
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not unleash the power. I love that. And then Zion
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like the bench is completely turned up, and I just
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like for him, he was almost like that wasn't the
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entertain y'all, Like, I'm letting people know right now where
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I'm at and he's playing D. He's playing D the Pelican.
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When you look at the defensive efficiency and offensive efficiency,
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they are top four in both categories, which that's that's dangerous.
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And Herb Jones out brandon ingram Out out, Yeah they're deep.
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I wasn't worried about them before the season, but seeing
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what they're doing now with ingram Out and Herb Jones out,
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knowing that they're gonna get two players that caliber back again, UM,
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teams only go far as their stars, and Zion has
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proved himself to be a superstar. You know, I think
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about the end the season, we're gonna talk about him
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in the top you know, obviously top ten, top five,
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top whatever, somewhere in there, he's that kind of game
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changing player. Um. And then with a guy like c J,
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they got a couple of shooters, Um Alvarez, that's his name, right,
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Alvrez Alvarado. So he's a he's a great player, he's
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a good bench. He's there. They got, they got role players,
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they got the stars. They have everything you need. I
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don't know if they have enough shooting, you know what
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I mean? When they get to play the elite of
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the elite, and teams just build a wall around Zion.
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But that's where you got Ingram right them. Yeah. My
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only thing is we all know teams usually go as
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a progression, right right, and this is gonna be their
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first year really with with Zion. So if they can
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make it to the conference finals, would be amazing. Um,
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if they make the finals, would be amazing. But we
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all know that's not how how it kind of goes.
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So yeah, it would be interesting to see. But I mean,
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you're looking at them in like Memphis, so we're just
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saying perform like pretty soon that's gonna be the Western
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Conference finals. Warriors are in there in their last you know,
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in the kind of twilight here of being a super
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elite team. So it's interesting. Just I always checking with
20:33
five thirty eight because they're right about everything and the
20:37
politics and everything. But one thing they did get right
20:40
I remember last year, so they have their this is
20:43
like Nate Silver's analytics thing. And last year I remember
20:47
just watching when the Celtics were like eighteen and twenty.
20:52
They had the Celtics near the top for like most
20:55
likely to win the title. I was like, oh, their
20:58
models broken. And then I watched a couple of Celtics
21:01
games and I was like, oh, maybe their model is
21:04
not broken. And then by the time like they had one,
21:07
you know, like five in a row, they were heading
21:10
shoulders above everybody else. Um, they're actually like less a
21:14
favorite this season than they were last season, but they're
21:16
still like they have them as chance to win the finals.
21:22
The Grizzlies are next at then the Bucks, then the
21:25
Sixers for some reason, uh Sons, but like the Pelicans
21:30
aren't aren't anywhere near the top. I mean I guess
21:33
they're like eight. Yeah, yeah, So should we take a
21:39
quick break and then come back since we had a
21:41
big chunky first, take a big chunky first, big chunky
21:47
buttery first. All right, let's take a quick break, we'll
21:50
come back. We'll come back with our mad boost these
21:53
underrated performers of the week and some players and performances
21:57
that blew us away. And we're back. And this is
22:11
the segment Matt Boosti's Underrated Performance of the Week, where
22:14
Miles and I completely without any assistance from super producer Jabari. No,
22:19
not true, Jabari uh goes through all the performance of
22:23
the week. Jabari knows all he sees. Otherwise I will
22:26
just keep bringing up Austin Reeves and that doesn't there's
22:30
actually twenty lines of Austin Reeves copy here that Jabbar
22:34
just put a line through, even the one when I said,
22:38
well he got a haircut. That's what we're talking about,
22:41
right Nope, Okay, all right, so we we haven't talked
22:44
about yet. But the Lakers and the Sixers played and
22:47
it was a sloppy affair. But Austin Reeves was one
22:51
of the most fun and like I mean, he had
22:53
a really good game, but he he was putting it
22:56
together and one of the four people I was most
22:59
scared of on on the Lakers side. Okay, I think
23:01
you're just saying this because the Lakers and the Celtics
23:04
play tonight, and we've already said off Mike that the
23:07
Lakers are probably gonna get absolutely tossed, because I was
23:13
I was gonna actually ask you see, we're trying to
23:14
talk about underrated performers. But James, like, with the loss,
23:18
the two losses, right, you feel like the Celtics got
23:22
it like they don't want to lose three in a row,
23:24
you know what I mean. And it feels like a
23:25
good emotional emotional dimension, you know what I mean. But
23:31
how are you feeling? Because in my mind, I'm like,
23:32
oh no, they got someone to prove and we played
23:35
them tonight. So every year, this is the first time
23:38
Tatum came out so smoking hot, But the last couple
23:40
of games he's he only starts off really slow, and
23:43
so I'm not super shocked. I'm wonder if he's gonna
23:46
go through a swoon. Um again, he's been pressing. He's
23:49
like trying, trying a little too hard. So it would
23:51
be nice if be kind of relaxed. This game that
23:52
came out. I don't have a good feeling about it. Um.
23:55
Oh so we well we have that in common city.
24:00
Adversity hits every team, right, you know, Boston was on
24:04
a tremendous swell and the upswing all season. This might
24:07
be part of a dip. You know, I'm not saying
24:09
they're gonna lose eight, right right right, but they looked
24:12
I mean what they scored like ninety three points of
24:14
the night, you know what I mean? Like that's I
24:16
don't know, I don't know. I don't have the greatest feeling.
24:18
I could be a little pestimistic too, Even though I
24:20
said'm a pragmatic fan, I could know the same. That's
24:22
how I deal with it too. Yeah, just because expectation
24:25
is the mother of suffering. I just completely throw all
24:27
my expectations out the window. So that's how I protect
24:30
my ego. Funnily enough, when I didn't think the team
24:32
was a contender, it was so much more fun watching.
24:34
And then last year in the playoffs, I was like,
24:36
you know, had an indigestion a little bit because yeah,
24:40
why so, Yeah, when when you're at the when you're
24:42
actually on top of the league, it's it's a lot
24:44
harder as a fan, right right right. The hardest playoffs
24:48
for me was when the Sixers had Jimmy Butler and
24:50
I did feel like they were a contender. If they
24:53
could get by. Yeah, like I really was. That was
24:57
the hard That was the most painful one. Yeah. I
25:00
don't know if anybody remembers how that ended anyways. Underrated
25:03
Performers of the Week. A. J. Griffin out of Duke
25:07
Blue Devils has made two game winners this season. Which
25:12
that's that's pretty uncommon for rookies. We've seen that a
25:15
lot this season. Actually, I don't want to remind anybody
25:18
about you know, what happened between the Pacers and the Lakers,
25:21
but thanks. He is just the second rookie if you
25:24
ever have multiple game winners, joining Tony Ku coach. Wow. Yeah, okay,
25:31
that's not that's a recent good company there, I guess
25:34
ye Kelly Ubre eight or more and four of the
25:37
last eight games. But I want to talk about Bogdanovitch's
25:40
last two games off the bench for Atlanta. Twenty nine
25:44
point five points off the bench, seventy two point two
25:47
true shooting percentage threes in two games. Remember thirty eight
25:53
against the Lakers. Yeah, twenty two and the third quarter
25:57
when he is locked in, he's got he's got that
25:59
like a and hm that like you know you just
26:02
want once he's locked in, it's it's over, it's target practice,
26:06
and it's NBA Jim, He's on fire type territory. Could
26:10
you imagine if the Bucks had got him like they
26:12
were supposed to. Yeah, that would be ugly, that crazy,
26:16
That would have been a problem. Hey, speaking of a problem,
26:20
Joel embiid is a problem. We're moving on to our
26:23
players and performances that blewest away. I'll let you guys
26:25
talk about and bead putting up and twelve. Hey, Jack,
26:29
this is the question I see. There was a there's
26:31
like a meme going on in like Sixers Twitter talking
26:34
about like the sort of inevitable cycle of how the
26:37
sixer seasons go. Starts off, Sixers look underwhelming, then in
26:40
bad goes god mode, Sixers look dangerous, then Team Shortcoming
26:44
start to show up. Then GM trades for somebody, then
26:47
in beads supporting cast lets him down in the Sixers
26:50
losing the second round, off season moves bolster, hope and repeat. Yeah,
26:54
they forgot about the part where and beats face gets
26:56
broken in there somewhere. That's happened a couple of times
26:59
for some reason, just like you know, the largest most
27:03
indestructible force. You know, we're always worried about his feet
27:06
or his knees, and his face always gets broken and
27:09
just random accidents. But yeah, that's about right right now.
27:13
The cynical Sixers fans are like, we're right now and
27:16
in Beagles god mode. Yeah, and now everyone's like, but
27:19
what's the next move? Where the shortcoming? He start to shop?
27:22
I don't know. I mean, I feel like if Harden
27:23
Stay is healthy and Maxie comes back looking good, I
27:26
feel like I wouldn't be too. I would say you'd
27:29
get out of the second round. Out of the second
27:31
round is the Eastern Conference finals. I don't I don't
27:34
know about that. That's a big about hard in his health. Man. Look,
27:38
I'm I'm trying. I'm trying my best to give positivity
27:41
out here right now. Harden did in that same game
27:43
where MB went fifty three and twelve, had nineteen points,
27:46
sixteen assists, nine rebounds. So my question about the seventies
27:49
Sixers is they didn't have enough last season, and then
27:53
they didn't add anything. They didn't like make a coaching
27:56
change or anything this offseason. I mean, they had they had.
27:59
I guess that I shouldn't say that. They added the
28:02
guy from Memphis whose name is escaping me. Who's who's
28:05
been really good? But yeah, Melton, Melton has been really good,
28:09
but just watching them doesn't feel like, Okay, they've gotten
28:12
over that hump and their different team than the team
28:14
that can't make it out of the second round. So like,
28:16
that's that's my question. And he wasn't got mode last
28:19
season two? You know, um so is it enough? Like
28:24
did did Harden take it up enough? It hasn't looked
28:27
that way to me yet. I don't think. I think
28:29
Will Max is a boardline All Star when he's healthy
28:32
and he's cooking. So that yeah, that even though you
28:36
didn't really, like you said, add much him his game
28:38
taking elape is adding something, you know. Yeah, I'm hoping so.
28:42
And it's been tough to tell because he's been hurt
28:44
right right, but he looked. My thing is I wonder
28:46
if p J. Tucker washed a lot. He looks he's
28:51
averaging like three points yet in like thirty minutes cardios.
28:56
That'd be my one concern. He playing with an Apple
28:59
Watch on it keeps checking it when he gets to
29:08
Melton is really good. It does feel like they need
29:10
to make some changes rotationally to get more melting maybe
29:14
less p J. Yeah, I don't know. I think they
29:17
were so much expecting Bible to kind of pop, right,
29:20
and he's just he's done something. He's he's something. Yeah,
29:25
he's just too I don't know, you can't do anything
29:27
on offense. Triple J had fifteen points, seven boards and uh,
29:32
let me see eight blocks and win over the Hawks.
29:36
Tis Jones filling in for job with twenty two and
29:39
eleven assists. Can they lose? Are they? Yea? The Pelicans
29:43
are exciting now, but like the Grizzlies have that experience,
29:46
right yeah, and no Desmon Bin too, You're like, yeah, yeah,
29:53
they're they're deep. Bins is playing a lot like an
29:55
All Star this year too. Um, Like said Triple J.
29:58
He made a mood to other night. He uh, he
30:00
drove from from the wing to the room and it
30:03
hit a little like a low runner and he just
30:04
guys were bouncing off him like he started. His body's
30:07
filling out. He looks big and strong. So um yeah, man,
30:10
it's they're they're dangerous and they're they're deep. But I
30:13
don't know, I think the Celtics depth might have him
30:15
a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, the West is interesting because
30:19
it does feel like Memphis and New Orleans are the
30:21
two most exciting teams right now. In Memphis, I think
30:24
has one of the best city jerseys. So you know,
30:27
everything that chrome except for the gritty. I think the
30:30
gritty is the stupid dance. Oh sorry, Memphinians. Memphinians, that's correct. Uh.
30:40
Kauai put up his first pointing point game of the
30:42
season nine and six versus the Celtics. Uh. That's his
30:46
first game in over five hundred days. Miss him. Marcus Smart,
30:51
Jalen Brown, whoever, didn't matter. He was stuck on automatic.
30:54
And even the TV announcer, the Clippers guy, was like, yeah,
30:58
he's uh, he's downloading his second half software and yep,
31:01
he went to work. Did you see his interview after
31:03
the fact where he was like, I'm just like focused
31:06
on the postseason, Like this doesn't matter, This is like
31:08
boring essentially. You gotta love it though, right, that's what
31:11
they brought him in, Paul George for. They don't care
31:13
about the regular tees stuff like, hey, I get to
31:15
the postseason, man, are you thinking the Clippers want me
31:18
to playoffs? No? I mean I don't know. You don't
31:21
want to be in the seventh place. Heading into the postseason,
31:24
Tatum said the same thing. Over the day. He goes, hey,
31:25
all this is cool. It doesn't matter if we don't
31:27
we don't hang a banner, you know, I mean yeah, no,
31:28
I mean yeah for sure, Which that kind of sucks
31:31
though as a fan, I love the journey and I
31:34
don't want to have that feeling where I'm like, they
31:36
don't win. If they don't win at all, this is
31:38
none of this matter. Watching Jaylen Brown be awesome is incredible.
31:40
Watching Smart when deepoy is incredible. So I love that
31:43
kind of stuff. Yeah. Man. Then Dame that game against
31:47
the Wolves, like disrespected that first half. I think he
31:52
had eight threes in the first half. Threes in the
31:54
first half. Love it. It was, Oh man, I just
31:59
love when you're like, make him do anything about this,
32:02
no matter how hard you try. And it's like the
32:04
second he knew is like, I think I've reached the
32:06
point where I have just enough space to get this
32:08
shot off. He was taking it and even when he
32:10
didn't have enough space, it was just like I'd like
32:13
to shoot, like writing your face, Yeah, let me just suggest,
32:16
let me just give me a little space. Okay, there
32:18
you go. Here now you're next year's upper deck card.
32:20
And then sails Just Alexander three three assists, three steals
32:25
against Luca only at thirty eight, but I think they
32:28
lost that game. And then ultimately, yeah, I'm curious, is
32:31
there any chance Shakil Just Alexander could ever start the
32:34
All Star Game? Starters is based on voting, right yeah, well,
32:39
oh right, right right, But it's because I know Charles Barkley.
32:42
I feel like he's been like lobbying for him heavy.
32:44
But I just think, like when you look at how
32:46
he's playing, like clearly he's going to be in the
32:48
All Star Game. But I'm just like, is there like
32:49
another level of I don't know, um presence or like
32:53
having more fans like attention or something could change that,
32:56
or just like like you're gonna get on the team,
32:58
but it'll take a while to the fans about you.
33:00
I mean, maybe they start winning in a couple of years, right,
33:03
the Thunder make at least a playoff run, and they're
33:06
on national TV a little more because he's great. Yeah,
33:09
that's that's what sucks. The casual fans, don't They only
33:12
see him once and like, oh that guy was pretty good.
33:15
When they got him and to seven ft two plus
33:19
guys in the middle. If if they get Wendy, then
33:21
I feel like people start paying attention. Oh yeah, that's
33:25
gonna be It'll be three seven plus guys because they
33:28
then have Poku and then have Jet Please. I just
33:35
want to see that. Yeah. By the way, I like
33:37
you said, Luca only had thirty eight kind of season
33:40
he's having. I know, I just like to, you know, comparatively.
33:43
I just wanted to be like, look, and he did
33:45
four points better, but yeah, he's also incredible freak that
33:49
will not be stopped. Um and then Lebron still doing
33:53
it and a D had thirty four fifteen and seven assists,
33:58
but I don't know, Man's got a D in foul trouble.
34:01
That's the only reason they were able to, you know,
34:04
dominate the way they did. And even then the game
34:07
went to over time because they just tried desperately to
34:11
give it away so hard, Like they that lead quick
34:16
they were nine I think with thirty something seconds something.
34:19
It was like that pretty all that just completely throw
34:25
it away. It was a very different experience on my side.
34:30
But yeah, I mean again, I think for me, I'm
34:32
I will look closely at this game tonight. Um, as
34:35
you hear this episode, you will already know what happened
34:37
between the Celtics and the Lakers. But that is one
34:39
I want to feel good about. But part of me
34:41
just feels like there's the emotional momentum may swing the
34:44
other way. So the lebron gonna get the scoring record
34:47
this season? Yeah? Right, like soon? Ysh right, he's eight
34:51
hundred points away. I did the math. He only has
34:54
an average like sixteen points a game over season, So
34:56
he's gonna get it somewhere February maybe anywhere. Exciting. Alright,
35:02
should we take one more break? I think we should.
35:05
It warmed up? Oh yeah, let me just get warmed
35:08
up for this next sea and we're back and it's time,
35:24
amazing brother, amazing brother, for James Hollis to get into
35:28
the hot seat. This is the rapid Fire round of questioning.
35:31
Let's ask this question segment. Let's go so anti clematic
35:35
that it ends with round of questioning. Yeah. I love that,
35:41
you know, because you gotta you want to be technically,
35:43
I could be too concise with the name rapid fire.
35:47
No no, no, no, no. We'll give people a chance
35:49
to catch their breath exactly because you're not like you're
35:51
not make you spit the rap God verse from Eminem
35:53
or something like that, kind of rapid fire or maybe
35:56
something from Big Pun. But no, we're talking about these questions.
36:00
I will come very quickly now, James, We're gonna ask
36:02
you a question. Just respond, just react, don't think too much,
36:06
don't give it exactly, don't give long answers. And if
36:09
we start, you know, bloviating and start you know, giving
36:13
art to just just cut it off and keep it
36:14
going because at the end of the day, this is
36:16
the fact keeping us. Swing a sword at a four
36:18
door four swing whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. So that was
36:25
that the Whole Foods the other day, this is this
36:26
is on topic the other day and they had in
36:30
the magazine rack of magazine that was just called Eminem
36:33
and it was a picture of Eminem on it and
36:35
it's the greatest rapper a life. It's like, Yo, what's
36:39
going on with the Whole Foods client? That's his manager
36:42
who did that, because you know he doesn't use the
36:44
internet right right, because they probably were like, Yo, go
36:47
to your news stand and tell me if you're still
36:49
popping Marshall and then I've been a great guy. Gift
36:56
to you guys. Yeah, all right, here we go, start
36:59
the clock. Um, don't now no no knees weak, arms
37:05
are heavy. Mom spaghetti Jack, would you like to go first? Uh? Yeah,
37:09
Mom spaghetti. Indeed, you know the rules we play. It's
37:13
moms spaghetti, so you're going to play mom spaghetti rules.
37:16
So uh uh James contender or pretender? All right, uh
37:26
and I'm gonna give you some some teams here. Denver
37:29
currently has the seventh ring defense and find themselves in
37:32
the middle of the pack in a crowd of Western
37:33
Conference Contender or pretender, pretender's pretender. They just don't have.
37:38
The defense has been horrible. Their backup center is the
37:42
corpse of DeAndre Jordan's pretender d j K. How about
37:47
this out there doing it in the high altitude, you know, yeah,
37:51
good for him. I'm just amazed that he can, you know,
37:54
keep that many steps and no no break. Their congratulations, sir.
37:58
Next one, Brooklyn is seventeen and twelve, winners of nine
38:01
out of ten and finally looks like a team many
38:05
people anticipated contenders or pretenders. I have to go if
38:08
I got the quick pretenders only because the Bucks are there,
38:12
the Celtics are They're both those teams are deeper and
38:14
more disciplined, and right now the Nets I still don't
38:17
trust Ben Simmons, mhm, Really what do you trust about? Yeah?
38:23
What is it about? Might not take a shot in
38:27
the dark? Depending that come back to that one. Alright, Minnesota,
38:32
uh thirteen and fourteen? Not quite off to the start
38:35
they would have, like, given how much they swing for
38:38
the fences this past summer. You know, they're having a
38:40
little trouble because they've had to move Cat out to
38:44
the perimeter, out to the fourth spot, which want where
38:47
it wants to be, but it also doesn't he he
38:49
doesn't have the matchup that like allows him to, you know,
38:53
be the best shooting center of all time and therefore,
38:55
you know, draw the center out. So are they a
38:57
contender pretender? They are an ab laughing stop And I
39:01
love it. As the original Rudy Gobert hater, I love
39:03
every minute of it. They told me he was elite,
39:05
he was top fifteen, They told me he was a superstar.
39:08
That roster is a is a total travesty. They're ruining
39:12
our our boy, Anthony. What's his name Edwards and Wards.
39:15
They did a terror job building around him. They should
39:17
trade cat as soon as possible. They are a pretender,
39:19
they're frauds. When did they go wrong? Do you think
39:22
because they felt like, yeah, like if without that, it
39:26
felt like we were on a trajectory there with I mean,
39:29
they should train for traded for Donovan Mitchell, we should
39:32
trade it for Is that a warning tale? Two teams
39:35
like the Pelicans in Memphis who were just thinking like, well,
39:38
you know, maybe we start doing stuff or do you
39:41
just kind of like hold on, let this thing paying
39:43
big money for for centers, like you gotta stop paying
39:45
less unless they're Yokick or embiid and what are you doing?
39:49
You know what I mean? It's very It's very much
39:51
a move I would have made. I thought it was
39:53
gonna work out, and it's move I would have made
39:54
because I was like, yeah, well they can't like defend anyone,
39:57
so you just put that guy back there and her
40:00
play on the perimeter and he's gonna stop everything. But
40:02
it just totally messes up all the things that are
40:05
gone else. It was a very bad idea that I
40:07
would have fallen. Four Because I'm dumb. I don't know.
40:11
If that was evident to you, it would be a
40:13
very bad GM. Next question, and you know, James, we
40:17
gotta keep this going. You know, I appreciate the answers,
40:19
but we have to keep moving. The next question is
40:21
you have the chance to win ten thousand dollars to
40:23
make a layup with each chance twenty five thousand dollars
40:26
to make five out of five free throws, or a
40:29
hundred thousand dollars to make at least four of five
40:32
room deep. Which challenge are you taking. I'm taking the
40:36
easy money and the layups. Uh. As I was to
40:41
keep it moving, okay, all right, I'll respect that. See
40:44
I would be so worried about missing the lamp and
40:46
then everybody would laugh at me. Each hand, I would go,
40:51
could I do a two hander for the left handed
40:53
because I'm not allowed. You gotta you gotta do a
40:56
full left de lay up. There's gonna be a judge there, Miles,
40:59
and going up on my right foot. Yeah, it's a
41:02
dribble up lay up. I can't. Oh, no, it's a
41:05
dribble up. No, No, you know, you gotta you gotta
41:09
pull up. I'm still taking that one over there. They
41:11
used to give me a panic attack when I was
41:12
playing like junior high basketball, doing the layup lines all
41:15
right from the left. I'm like, yo, come on, now,
41:17
do all this in front of people. Also, I like
41:20
making George mike In's name Ryan with the con that
41:24
was like, hey, look we like Rudy Goilbert and George
41:30
McConn over here. You know what I mean? Here are
41:34
big men around here. Is James, what'll be saying? Man,
41:40
we gotta keep the same moving. Man. I'm sorry, you
41:43
know what I mean. We love you, man, we love you,
41:45
but we gotta keep this moving. Please appreciate it. Appreciate it?
41:51
Um is this many? Yeah? All right? Okay, so all right, James,
41:59
it's a new rule. You know we we we like
42:02
to say new rule around here when we're doing our
42:05
rapid fire. What's a new rule you'd like to see
42:08
implemented or altered effective immediately? I would love to see
42:11
them go the international rule of the goaltending stuff was
42:15
the rim it's in play. I would love to see
42:17
the NBA do that. Is that because you just watched
42:19
the Redeemed team and you saw how fun that was.
42:23
I think every year I think because like it's stupid.
42:25
What's it hit the ring to be alive? And I
42:27
think about how many how many blocks the guy would average,
42:29
you know what I mean, learned how to time and
42:31
knock him off the rim, got tip dunk so easy.
42:34
It just I think it'd be more entertaining. I like it. Yeah,
42:38
the Redeem Team documentary is fun, but just I just
42:40
finally watched it and it's a blast. I'll tune in
42:44
and check it out. But I mean, I remember watching
42:46
all that, reliving it, watching a live so I remember
42:49
Ricky Rubio being a big part of that, and just
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like how how good he was, even though he was
42:54
I think twelve at the time that that game was played,
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and they don't mention his name one so I don't
43:00
think of a documentary, which is weird, but I respect
43:03
this saying about him. It's about America, it's about the
43:06
US of eight. Yeah, James, we have to keep it moving.
43:11
I was at man. Okay, fine, next question, James, you
43:17
know a thing or two about NBA Twitter. What's your
43:20
favorite NBA tweet or Twitter moment of all time. You're
43:24
not gonna get me and you're not gonna suck me in.
43:26
You're not gonna. I'm just asking him. That's I'm not
43:29
asking about anything because I'm just asking you for you,
43:32
as a person who enjoys the NBA and Twitter, what
43:34
is your favorite? It was probably seeing Steve Nash. Uh,
43:38
somebody was heckling him and he said, I'm the hardest
43:40
forty year old you know, Brody Mecula. That was pretty cool.
43:44
Really Yeah, yeah, I just reply. So that's just a
43:51
one word way of now telling people to fight them.
43:53
It's I see people will at me all the time
43:56
or tag me and tweets all the time where somebody
43:58
is talking and one guy like, yeah, man to Mechla,
44:01
meet me to Mechula. It's all the time, honored, and
44:04
I'm proud to be part of the NBA Twitter lexicon.
44:07
Yeah all right, we gotta tell people what what that is, right,
44:10
I mean, if they don't know the ballad of snotty
44:12
dripping and u AF, just do some digging on their own.
44:22
It's Uh, there's plenty of articles. Plenty of articles have
44:25
been written. When I reachet this out, I'll make sure
44:27
I dropped out. We did a whole podcast out of
44:29
over on dunk Tails and all there's articles I was
44:32
we made huff posts, we did all kind of bleach report,
44:34
did the whole thing on it. Yeah, all that good stuff.
44:37
Someone basically asked you to fight them into Mecula on
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Christmas Day. On Christmas Day, yeah, that isn't important important detail.
44:44
And he actually he actually drove away from his family
44:46
because I told him, yea, I'll meet you. But I
44:47
was actually in Arizona. So we left. Yeah, you know,
44:53
driving down the five the fifteen highways, just blaring fight music,
44:56
ready to fight over Kobe Bryant. It's always incredible with me.
45:01
I got death threats over that, Yeah, one of us.
45:03
I got death threats. I got called every name in
45:05
the book because they're like, why do you agree to
45:07
meet him? I said, because he's stupid. I'm not kind
45:10
if he did it, like he's the idiot, not me.
45:12
But yeah, I got called a coward, pump all that stuff.
45:15
Though maybe you learned a lesson about his anger, you know,
45:19
I'm sure, Jack, How are you gonna tell James? I mean, yeah,
45:26
all right, would you rather meet me in Vegas or
45:29
miles in Temecula? Is there a sea option? Because neither
45:33
one of those things sounds very favorable. Oh man, I'm
45:37
so much fun in Vegas? Are you serious? Yeah? I
45:39
don't like the gamble. What about wine Country in Temecula,
45:43
But we can go to see a show. I don't Oh,
45:47
I know all the man. I thought I had this one.
45:50
I mean, am I paying? I'm not paying, I'll say, Vegas? Yeah?
45:54
Is that? Is that anything? I think that counts? Jack?
45:58
Hold on, hold on, well, let's let's find are you
46:00
paying to me? Yeah? Now he's back. Have you seen
46:08
how much tickets cost? I just want to buffet? I
46:13
just want to buffet. I want to That's all I
46:16
want some try til Yeah, the buffets advertise the like
46:20
one price, but then they get you on little little
46:23
ways and then yeah, I'm gonna lose all my money
46:25
on a black jack hand, so I don't care. I
46:29
do need you to cover this. Actually, uh okay, look
46:34
you know what, I think that counts. That's a win
46:37
in my book. We're putting that up. Yeah, hang the
46:39
banner up. James hollis Man, thank you so much for
46:43
joining us. Before you go, we want to share some
46:45
tweets of the week with you and our listeners before
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you tell us where people can find you. But we
46:50
asked all of our listeners, you said, what is your
46:52
NBA jam squad? If you could put anything together? Who
46:55
are you guys putting together for some fantastic matchups? I
46:58
just want to read a couple at alex K fourteen
47:00
dfsaid Tim Duncan and George Gervan on the Spurs Dr
47:04
J and Charles Barkley, Sixers, Kareem and Janice Bucks. That
47:09
one's wild shooting, though, you gotta have a three point shooter. Yeah,
47:14
I like that. Let we're playing a different kind of game.
47:17
I'm goaltending all day in that one. It's like nothing
47:20
is nothing's getting near that that ram. Then let's see
47:23
at Mark Bauman said Jaw and Big Country Bryant reefs together.
47:27
I would have gone with a Reef on that one.
47:29
You know, I'm more of a shriek of Doreine fan.
47:30
But also Anthony Edwards and Isaiah Ryder, Interesting Shay and
47:36
Seawan Kemp. That would be a fun one too. Yeah,
47:40
you know we're taking from the Origin Origin team. And
47:43
then at Saul Underscore, Bookman said Nash and Barkley would
47:46
be Dopeli, Juan and Hardened Mullin and Curry or PG
47:49
and Reggie Miller on the Pacers and the Realist Jay
47:52
Mark said, Durant Petrovitch is almost unfair. Okay, So make
47:58
sure you guys follow us on Twitter at mad boost,
48:01
these b double O S, T I E. S and
48:04
James Hollis Man, thanks again for showing up. I mean many, No,
48:12
I would actually I agree man, this is that this
48:13
has been really fantastic. We've had a good time. Where
48:16
can they find you and support you and all that? Um,
48:18
my favorite player was Scottie Pippens or just change letters
48:21
and you can find me on Twitter and instrement's notty dripping.
48:24
So we have our dunk Hills Pie, which I can
48:27
say it's on all platform. Um, we're just trying to
48:30
be like you guys. Uh yeah, me and my partner J. P.
48:33
Hive once a week check us out. We're not We're
48:36
not on you guys level. Yet you give us something
48:38
to aspire to. You appreciate you that we're in the lobby.
48:43
We're in the lobby, you know what I mean. We're
48:44
just in the lobby. We're all trying to get on
48:46
that elevator. All right, y'all, we'll see you next week.
48:49
We'll see what happens with the games we were talking about,
48:51
like the Lakers Social two knows what's gonna happen there,
48:53
But we'll be back and we'll be talking more NBA
48:56
action as usual. We'll see it then. By by bad