There’s more news and less comprehension today than any historical period that didn’t involve literal witch trials, and trying to stay on top of it all can feel like playing a game of telephone with 30 people, except everyone’s speaking at the same time and like a third of them are openly racist for some reason. From Cracked co-founder Jack O’Brien, THE DAILY ZEITGEIST is stepping into that fray with some of the funniest and smartest comedic and journalistic minds around. Jack and co-host Miles Gray spend up to an hour every weekday sorting through the events and stories driving the headlines, to help you find the signal in the noise, with a few laughs thrown in for free.
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episode 4: Supreme Court Turn Up, WE HAVE ACHIEVED FUSION 12.15.22
In episode 1392, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and host of Man Thinkers, George Kareman, to discuss.....
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to sixty seven,
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episode four of Dirt Ali's Ice Day production of I
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Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
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deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Thursday, December.
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It is December. Okay, everybody cool with that? Lie? I mean, yeah, fine, yeah,
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it is all right, Miles two couldn't be anymore two? Yeah, man,
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look throwing the bad bunny because it's national where your
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Pearls Day open, Herder's Day, Bill of Rights Day, International
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Tea Day, now day. I've been drinking a lot of
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English breakfast. What frands was it here? Tas oh oh Jack. Now,
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I'm just I'm just in it for the caffeine without
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it being coffee, you know, a lighter caffe nation in
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the morning. Mate. You already know Harry Kane had that
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massive miss in the world massive. I almost called you
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and said, Harry Kane massive when he made the first one.
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Some people I think tweet tweeted that ship in me
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actually when he missed the penalty, like Harry Kane massive,
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like yeah up yeah, And then I jinxed you last
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night because Russ had two buckets, you know, over time
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and I was like, I texted you for us, and
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then it was more of a Russ Russ for us. Yeah, yeah,
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we are a lot of people don't realize this, but
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we do determine the outcome of NBA games just through
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our magical jinxing behavior. You want to know how bad
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I jinxed it. When there was three minutes left, I
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was like, okay, we got this. I'm getting the memes ready.
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I googled mere cat because that's why I think what
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Joe Mossola looks like. He looks like a mere cat.
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And I was like, wait till I hit the group
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chat with this one dancing on him. And then it
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turned like when I started to see the pendulum goal,
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I x the funk out of the window, like, oh god,
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I did it. You texted me whoa and I was like, okay,
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I might have to tell went and checked it, and
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uh it was bad news from there on anyway, bad news.
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We're wet boys. No further explanation needed. I'm proud to
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be a wet boy and I'm thrilled to be joined
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as always by my co host, Mr Miles grow Gray
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old guy, babo monkeystead from the look inside their brains
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de boo, let that sink because I'm circling round that train.
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Don't buy you a horse if you don't booh shout
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out to Salvador Jolly. I haven't. I haven't heard Usher
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and Alicia keys my boo in the second. But the
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fact that you put my boo for they nonsense at
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the Chase Center. Thank you, Salvador Jolly, and a jolly
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one to you as well. A nice reference to him
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trying to get a hand job with a horse at
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the end. There wasn't that, yeah, I guess like trying
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to get say He was like, I'll buy you a
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horse if you have sex with me, which if you
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don't say are you say you didn't have sex? And
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it's hard. Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. But we have
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someone here who can help us just kind of work
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our way through the galaxy mind of Elon Musk. We're
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thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a
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hilarious and talented actor, writer, director, comedian, and the host
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of the new podcast Man Thinkers on our sister network,
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Big Money Players. Man Thinkers is a satire of the
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modern world of manfluencers, like a Colbert Rapport per hour time,
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Please welcome to the show. George Caraman, Wow, I'm here.
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What an introduction. I wish I could be introduced like
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that just every day, all the time. Hier. I mean,
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I'm dude, you guys, you guys are good hype man. Yeah.
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What's that? What's that? What was that position called when
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like somebody entered a party back in the rich white
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people days and they're like Jacques O'Brien, O'Brian family. Yeah,
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you love the O'Brien's. Yeah, what's what was that called? Caller?
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Was that their only job? The caller? The caller, the crier,
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Oh yeah, town crier. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, maybe
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that feels like and then would they fucking like shape
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you if you're like, yo, they didn't have like the
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Bruce Buffer of criers over the Yeah, they had some
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mother Oh wait, no, Bruce Buffer is the off brand one, right,
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it's his brother, Michael Buffer, Michael real Buffer. Yeah, they said,
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oh they got Bruce Buffer, not Michael Buffer. I don't
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know that I could differentiate between the two of them,
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but maybe underestimating my skills, Michael Buffer is the hands
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more handsome one. Like he looks like the Michael Buffer
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of the two. His brother looks like off brand Michael Buffer.
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And you're like, man, they need Michael Buffer. And you're like,
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that's his brother. Man, he's Michael Buffer. Michael Buffer is
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Michael Buffer. Yeah, George, how are you doing. I'm good, guys,
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I'm good. I can't complain, you know what I mean.
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Sun is shining as it usually is. Yeah, I'm good
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here in sunny California. Yeah, you guys don't, alright, enjoy
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the cold? Yeah? Yeah it is nice and chili. We
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we don't get a lot of that. Although it was
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back east this week and was got got my phil
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cold weather taking a dog for a walk and the
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cold weather is nice. See, I like the cold weather.
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But the thing is when I'm from New York, from
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the city, and when I go back, like I was
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back for Thanksgiving, I don't mind the cold, but literally,
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like you do not get but fifteen seconds of sunshine
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hitting your body, right, I mean, because even if it's sunny,
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to get the buildings blah, it's just like a short day.
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And I think that's what messes me up, Like that's
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what causes the seasonal depression thing where I'm like I
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need that starlight on my scam, you know what I mean,
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like for a little bit. And I think that's it's
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that for me more than the cold. Yeah, because like
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like walking like mid day through Manhattan, like you're like
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I'm forever in the shadows of these skyscrapers, and then
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it's like jarring when you get to like Central Park
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and it opens up a little bit, like yeah, exactly,
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feel like a vampire you get this, and it's like real, Yeah,
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all right, Well, George, we're gonna get to know you
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a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna
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tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking
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about today, we're gonna talk about the Supreme Court just
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just getting turned up at a partisan holiday party. Yeah
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it was Brett, Brett Kavanaugh. We know, we know how
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he feels about beer. He was kicking it with all
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the the coolest of the cool on the right. We're
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gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about the fusion breakthrough,
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and my cynical side immediately asks the question, how are
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we going to funk this up? I think I have
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some idea And we're even going to talk about Fox
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News freaking out over a tiny libraries Christmas decorations, and
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the first shots in this year's war on Christmas have
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been fired, and the battle was won by Jesse Waters.
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According to Jesse Waters, like they got mad at the
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decorations in a fucking public library. In a public library
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that was fully decorated with Christmas decorate. It had a
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big wreath on the door. Yeahs wrapping station, and they
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were like, where's the tree. It was more like interior
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decorating criticism than anything like it. We'll get to it
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all of that plenty more. But first, George, we like
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to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Okay,
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so from my recent search history is what is a
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silent heart attack? And did I have one? Yeah? The
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second part was more the motivation for what is a
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silent heart attack? Because silent heart attacks are a real
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thing that I didn't know about until I thought I
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was having one. I don't think I did have one,
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but of heart attacks are silent, which means you're not like,
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you don't have the thought, oh, I'm having a heart attack.
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You might be make the experience discomfort and whatnot. But
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the thought I was having was like, am I about
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to have a heart attack? And then I learned later
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that actually, if you have that thought, you might have
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already had. That's trouble out. Yeah. I remember reading about
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this a number of years ago and feeling like, well,
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what the fuck? This isn't this? This is Yeah. This
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dude I used to perform with like, he like a
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couple of years ago, was like posted, He's like, man,
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I got this weird job pain. And then two days
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later he's like, y'all, I had a fucking heart attack
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and I had no fucking idea. He's like, I had
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this weird neck pain. It wasn't like, you know, it
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wasn't like the movies. You're like grabbing your left arm
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and ship. He was like it was this weird tightness
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in my neck and my chest, and I was just
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kind of disoriented. And then I went like he's like
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luckily my partner was like, go to the fucking awesome.
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We're like, oh, yeah, you had a heart attack just now. Damn.
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It's scary, but it's crazy, and and a lot of
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people will like not even know until months later they
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go to the doctor and run some tests for like
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something else and like, oh, by the way, you had
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a heart attack. By the way, you're a three heart
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attacks deep my friend yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Oh you didn't.
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Oh okay, that's I just thought that's how you were living. Okay, No, yeah,
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you're good with that, right, Yeah, that's wild. So did
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you did you look into it? Have you been to
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the doctor to find Yeah? I did. I had been
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meaning to go to a cardiologist anyway, cause I have
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like a family history of stuff, which is another reason why,
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like you know, I takes over. We're like, oh, here,
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there we go. Because my my dad had a heart attack,
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like grandfather died of a heart attack. But they were
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both big time smokers back in the day. So I
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always thought I don't smoke, so I always thought like, well,
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that's why. But then like when you experienced things and
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the way it happened for me to dude, this is
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so fucking stupid. I was going hard in a sauna
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cold plunge situation, and I was doing twenty minutes on
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a five minute plunge three times in a row, and
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I'm like, I'm fucking let's go. Fuck yeah, And like
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the third plunge, I was like, man, I really don't
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want to go in, but I was like pushing myself
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like no, you can do it, like blah blah. And there's,
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by the way, there's like eighty year old men in
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this maybe not for five minutes, but like it's not
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like you know, like they're old dudes in there. So
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I'm like, oh, I'm fine, jump in that third one.
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And I got through it, and it wasn't until afterwards,
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but dude, I couldn't even finish a sentence without having
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to take like a like deep deep breath to the
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whole day and then I look, oh, and then I
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woke up later that night with like heartburn, but I
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hadn't even anything crazy. And that's another symptom and all
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this ship. So I started freaking out because like you
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start doing the like amateur medical professional google situation and
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it just gets bad. But I went to a cardiologist
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and he ran like, um, just like a simple thing,
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and he was like, look, it's not accurate, but like
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you most likely did not, but we can run more
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tests if you want. So I'm gonna get more tests on.
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But him saying I don't think you had one made
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me feel like immediately a thousand times. He was also
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carrying a bag of golf clubs and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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you're good, bro, I know you're right them dude, that's
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I fucking I don't know what you guys. I'm like,
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I'm not down with doctors, Like I know they do
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great work. God damn that the arrogance and the condescension
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you get is like shut up, dude, you need to
11:48
find It's It's like I remember being put off by
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like one of my last doctors because like they were complete,
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like they completely botched like tests that they had to do,
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and I was like, what happened with them? Tests are
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like oh you and get them and I'm like no,
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They're like, oh you know what we didn't mis send
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the sample? Can you come back in? And I was
12:07
like what the fuck? You were in there being like, man,
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we gotta we want to like make sure we get
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a whole blood panel all this. I'm like, the fuck.
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And it's like little things like that. I get, like
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anything you're at work and things fall through the cracks,
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But at times, like my intent is up because like
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I was of a family history of like like you know,
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not great doctors letting ships slip through the cracks and
12:28
people passing away and stuff. So I'm like, God, how
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do I like I need somebody and a lot of
12:34
people like just use you know, zok doc or those
12:36
other things you can kind of get an idea of
12:38
like how well people are doing. But it's always like
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it's it's always a personal thing too, where you can
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kind of just want to sense that someone is, like
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you're a human being that's concerned about their health, and
12:47
I get that for sure, rather than like yeo, man,
12:49
I'm about to tee off in my fifty It's true.
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It's it's funny, like I feel like the way I
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judge doctors just more just like would I hang out
12:56
with you, like like you know, what I mean, like
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if we if you were at a family dinner, would
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I be like, Oh, that guy's all right, you know
13:02
what I mean? Versus like, are you actually super qualified medically,
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which is probably the way I should do it, But
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it's it's that super qualification thing that makes them think
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I feel like that, like yeah, whatever I say, it's true.
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And it's like, you don't know what's happening. Most of
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being a doctor is just playing detective with your body,
13:19
like you don't happening, you know what I mean? And
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they say the most important aspect of how good a
13:26
doctor is, like how much patients respond and how well
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they do, is their empathy, like their level of empathy,
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and not like their credentials or whatever. That makes sense. Yeah,
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my wife is a doctor, so I I do have
13:40
to say there are some good doctors. No that this
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isn't even the cast dis versions on the medical profession
13:46
at there's plenty that are fucked up. It's just a sense.
13:49
It's just like any feeling you have as a human
13:51
being concerned obviously exponentially more concerned about your health than
13:56
a doctor who's looking at you objectively and being like, no,
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you're good. But sometimes people are like, here's the thing.
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I just mainlined web md for like eighteen hours straight,
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so like, can you hit me with like a few
14:07
more lines of dialogue that will kind of both like
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blow this ship out of my mind and sometimes like yeah,
14:12
you're good. One time I out a doctor be like, man,
14:14
don't worry, man, just look, if something feels bad, just
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come in and that's when you catch you there's no
14:17
point of worrying. And I was like, well, I thank
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you for that, like very zen like outlook, but like
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I just asked you seven questions and from there you
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couldn't get that. I'm a little like freaked out. Yeah, questions,
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one answer, don't worry about it. You're good. Well, there's
14:33
no like there's no like you know how to deal
14:36
with people training. I mean maybe there is a little bit,
14:38
but that's what I mean where it's like it's got
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like I remember, dude, at one time I went to
14:42
a walk in clinic because I thought I had an STD,
14:46
and I explained it to you. It was like, yeah,
14:47
I'm working something going on, you know, and the guy
14:49
was like, oh, that doesn't sound like an STD, but
14:51
you know, put your pants down, let me see what's up?
14:53
So I pulled the pants down and his is his reaction.
14:55
He looks at my stuff and immediately goes huh. And
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I was like, what what is the subtext of hump?
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What then are you do? You don't you don't look
15:04
at a man's junk and say huh? Then your record
15:07
and wrote for forty five minutes exactly. I was like,
15:10
what's hung Like Dick's hanging out? I was like feeling
15:13
super vulnerable and weird. And then He's like, oh, yeah,
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you just gotta like spray athletes foot stuff on your deck.
15:18
And I was like, okay, cool, thanks, Wow, Yeah, I
15:20
don't know just that that kind of podcast, but you
15:22
know we're going there. That's like a doctor like, did
15:25
you just spray some connecting on you? That's what I did.
15:29
I was like, I don't know, you got any connecting? Yeah?
15:33
I mean. And also the system is being taxed beyond
15:36
like it it's I think it's a big systemic problem
15:39
where America is choosing to just grit, grit it ignore
15:45
its way through a pandemic. Yeah, and it's so hard
15:48
because agains. Yeah, there's just so many disparities within it all.
15:52
And yeah, like I said, I that's why I take
15:56
my time to like really vibe out with doctors now
15:59
and then when I find them like yes, yes, yes,
16:01
good good good, because because especially in l A, I
16:04
feel like there's a lot of like there's this model
16:06
of like just like a doctor's office that just cranks
16:10
out patients just to collect insurance money, you know, like
16:13
where you're almost like is this for healthcare or is
16:16
this to be like yeah, man, they got insurance. Man,
16:18
just see him for anything and then send them out
16:20
their way and we're just like collecting money. But look,
16:23
that be the way it is out here. What is
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something you think is overrated? I think salads are overrated?
16:30
Okay is the guy who thought he had a heart attack.
16:35
That's very true. And I definitely eat way too much
16:39
meat and I've tried to cut it back since uh
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since my last heart attack. But I will say, like
16:45
the thing with salads, I've never fucked with them, and
16:48
I think maybe it's just a genetic thing, like maybe
16:49
my body just doesn't like the greens. But like you're
16:54
never full, Like okay, it's not okay, it's not salads.
16:57
It's when people are like I'll have a salad for
16:59
my lunch. It's like, that's not a lunch, my dude,
17:02
you know what I mean, Like salads and a couple
17:03
of pieces of chicken in there, that's not You're fucking
17:06
starving in like an owl. Yeah, that's why I gotta
17:09
you gotta get grains, you gotta get beans in there
17:12
if it's gonna be I mean, I think the way
17:13
I've only ever made a salad like fill me up
17:17
is like going to like a salad bar like at
17:19
a supermarket, filling the tub like to its absolute top,
17:23
where I've basically eaten like two pounds of greens and
17:27
a couple of pieces of chicken and a boiled egg.
17:29
And I'm like, yeah, all right, that I did. Yeah,
17:31
but that's what I mean, Like you got it for me,
17:33
The idea of like stuffing my body with like a
17:36
pound of greens, I'm like, no, Like I don't know.
17:39
I know this ship is healthy, but like I don't
17:41
think we're supposed to eat it like that, Like I
17:43
think it's more of a grazing situation in my opinion. Yeah,
17:47
straight meat eaten though, you know, I get it. When
17:50
your bellies full off that meat, what can you do?
17:53
I feel like the man. The man no sphere version
17:56
of this would be like the only way to eat
17:58
a salad is to like put it on the ground
18:01
and graze it like a cow or something like you
18:04
know how the river king like has that has like
18:07
all these things, like it has to be natural. You
18:09
have to be eating the way that you would have
18:13
before the invention of utensils or something. Right, eat ahead
18:18
of lettuce like a fucking apple, right all right, like
18:21
ahead of cabbage like an apple. And they're like, that's
18:24
what you do. And then also take like h G
18:26
H for like fucking eight years, which, by the way,
18:28
did liver King just get caught? Didn't get caught? Yeah,
18:31
which I shocking. We're still kind of we haven't really
18:36
fully covered it because we're still sort of bringing it
18:40
into our world view because it really kind of upsets
18:42
some things. For me, I thought that that was just
18:46
giving him the build of a human cartoon. Just don't
18:51
as long as you don't watch the dirt off the
18:54
head of lettuce or off the potato things, better you
18:57
better eat those potato bugs. Well it's something you think
19:00
is underrated, all right, Well I have two for you guys.
19:04
So the first one is also gonna be laughable considering
19:07
my heart attack thing. But I do think cold showers
19:11
are underrated. Now I'm not talking about like, you know,
19:15
fifteen minute cold showers thing crazy, but if you're a
19:17
morning person, like if you shower in the morning, a
19:21
quick two minute cold shower, dude, wakes you the funk up.
19:25
You do it before the hot or at the end
19:26
of the hot I'm talking just cold, my man, you're
19:30
washing yourself and yep, I'm a no hot kind of guy.
19:35
But here's the thing. It's gotta be. You have to
19:38
be committed to taking a short shower right you're not.
19:40
It's not one of those showers where you're like thinking
19:42
and blah blah blah. It's like a quick in and
19:43
out shower, and it does suck. During the shower, it's
19:46
never fun, But after you get out, it's like you
19:50
had a couple of the cleannest coffee you've ever had,
19:52
you know what I mean, Like you're just like locked in,
19:54
ready to rock, feeling good about the day. So my
19:57
wife is very into Huberman. Do you know hub yea, yeah, yeah,
20:01
we're trying to get him on our podcast. Yeah yeah, yeah.
20:04
So he's like the Stanford Scientists, and he has all
20:08
these like hacks and one of them is like the
20:10
cold shower, and she got me to buy in and
20:13
I did the cold shower, and I felt like ship
20:16
for the rest of the day. I was like, oh
20:19
my god, I'm like exhausted and yeah, like I have
20:22
a cold for the rest of the day. So I
20:24
think it like definitely works for I think some people
20:28
for sure that like that the way you described as
20:30
the way I always hear people describing it that it
20:32
like ramps up your kind of energy and your adrenaline.
20:37
And for me, it was just my body was like,
20:39
you know, don't do that. Ever it might have it
20:42
might have given you a silent heart attack. Yeah, yeah,
20:44
I think that's exactly Like the whole day I could
20:47
barely think And what's your other under it? I think
20:53
that I think being underrated can be underrated, like when
20:58
other people think you are are when other people underrate
21:02
you or underrate something that's underrated because I think, like,
21:06
you know, I don't know, it doesn't really matter if
21:08
you're a performer river, but like let's say, let's say
21:10
I assume you're a bad doctor. We're talking about doctors right,
21:12
and then you come in and you're just like a
21:14
normal doctor. Now I think you're a great doctor because
21:18
my expectation was that you were whack. Do you know
21:20
what I mean? So sometimes being underrated gives you an edge. Bars, Yeah, exactly,
21:25
all about low bars man. Yeah, but yeah like it it. Also,
21:30
you heard this podcast, right, you heard my ustirs thinking
21:37
Bars pretty high. But yeah, it definitely is like a
21:40
psychological advantage. I think when I think the most powerful
21:46
it is is when you actually have a very strong
21:48
sense of self and you're interacting with somebody who underrates you,
21:51
because that's when you will they'll be like, what the
21:54
funk was that? Yeah? Exactly. I remember I read an
21:57
interview with Margot Robbie or something. She was talking about
22:00
how when she first got to Laid, before she was famous,
22:03
she would go on auditions and she felt like casting
22:06
or who have producers whatever that she was auditioning forard
22:09
like when she walked in the room that they would
22:11
immediately judge her as like just like a hot, ditzy person.
22:15
And then when she actually like did the audition and
22:17
like was good that they were like, oh my god,
22:20
she's the best actor ever. She's like, I don't know
22:21
if I deserve that response, but because people thought I
22:24
was gonna be dumb. The whiplash, the whiplash of it,
22:26
you know what I mean? Hell yeah, totally lash. There
22:30
you go. Hell yeah, bro, alright, let's take a quick break.
22:34
We're gonna come back. We're going to talk about a
22:36
celebrated thinker among men, Brett Kavanaugh, and what he's up
22:41
to now now that he got the past, is in
22:44
the Supreme Court and still loves beer. And we're back,
23:00
and so I mean, like we started, I feel like
23:05
maybe was it at the beginning of last year. I
23:08
don't know. Time is a fucking mess in these days,
23:11
especially during a daily Describe the feeling, don't try and
23:14
place it in linear time, and maybe I can find
23:16
you remember when there was the like liberal Supreme Court
23:21
justice who was talking about how he was not going
23:24
to retire because they call balls and strikes and like
23:27
he didn't think his fellow justices had any ideological bent.
23:34
Do you remember that that was? It don't seems strikingly recent.
23:38
Oh there's a recent memory I have where Briar, the
23:42
Supreme Court justice who everyone was like, you better fucking
23:45
retired now, that we have Biden in the in office
23:50
and you know, Democratic houses, you better retired because you're
23:54
getting old. And he was like, I just don't. I
23:57
don't see it. The Supreme Court is, you know, just
24:00
we're all just out here calling balls and strikes and
24:02
this is somebody who has to deal with them and
24:04
read their opinions and like write the dissenting opinion on
24:08
this ship. And he was still trying to peddle that ship.
24:12
So he was that and that was like, I don't know,
24:14
a year and a half ago, I feel well. And
24:16
also it's been a thing since like this this latest
24:20
wave of confirmation since Trump was in office, of like
24:23
they're not partisan. Okay, we're gonna ask them during the
24:26
confirmation you funk with like healthcare and like abortion access right,
24:31
and they'll say yes, and then it's fine. They said yes.
24:34
But it's clear to see now like the Supreme Court
24:37
has just become this just overtly partisan body that's the
24:41
most traded weapon for the right wing. Yeah, and the
24:44
Federalist Society has done their damnedest to rebalance the scales
24:49
in favor of a conservative worldview. And there was a
24:52
time when like that take of like a Supreme Court
24:55
just to be like, excuse me, partisan, get a fuck
25:00
out of here now, how dare my chambers? Please? Please um?
25:07
And like they all insisted politics had nothing to do
25:09
with their decisions, but we all know that's bullshit. I mean,
25:11
Clarence Thomas is basically a walking conflict of interest since
25:14
his wife, Jenny January six Thomas is a conservative activist
25:18
and also walking quan on post or four champ post,
25:22
whatever you want to however you want to describe that.
25:24
Alito and Amy Coney Barrett are like regular speakers at
25:27
all these parties and events, and like they laugh about
25:29
all the bullshit they have to go through since they're
25:31
the face of curtailing people's human rights, which brings us
25:35
to break Kavanaugh because he was at a holiday party
25:38
last Friday night at Matt Schlap's house. Now you say,
25:41
who's Match Schlap, maybe you know who he is. He's
25:44
the head of fucking Sea Pack. Like we talked about
25:46
when the actual Sea Pack convention goes down, because we
25:49
always call it like racist Coachella, because that's usually what
25:52
it is. Like it's just end to end fucking nonsense.
25:55
Being screamed at last year's Sea pack. They had a
25:59
like jail cell set up with a like mega in it,
26:03
like in you know, the performance prisoner uniform, like just
26:08
looking sad for the whole time, to be like this
26:11
is this is what has happened to us. These are
26:14
our political prisoners. Look at this photograph exactly. Oh wait,
26:20
I was almost gonna do the but you know, a
26:24
Schlap has been like salivated like the fucking cartoons, like
26:28
trying to unite right wing extremists from the US and Europe.
26:31
Like he even had seapack in Hungary because he wanted
26:34
to be close to victor Orbon And at the time,
26:36
victor Or like at the conference was saying that Europe
26:39
was quote committing suicide through immigration, and when Matt Slap
26:43
was asked about it, he said, well, rob Weight is
26:45
being adjudicated at the Supreme Court right now for people
26:48
that believe that we somehow need to replace populations or
26:52
bringing new workers. I think it is an appropriate first
26:54
step to give the enshrinement in law the right to
26:57
life for our own unborn children. You so us So
27:02
he's in that great replacement theory garbage. In anyway, a
27:06
sitting Supreme Court justice was rubbing elbows at this man's house.
27:11
Who was there? Just some people you might know, Matt Gates,
27:14
John Spicer, alex A Costa, Sebastian Gorka, Stephen Miller, fucking
27:20
Eric Prince of Blackwater Fame, Mercenary, King Baby, dream Team.
27:27
They got it all covered. Wait, which Supreme Court justice
27:30
was there? Oh? It was Brett Cavan So we wasn't there.
27:38
But but he did have a shirt on underneath I
27:40
think that said like the fun boy Prince of Rohoba
27:42
Beach and mind View. Stephen Miller has a like an
27:46
organization he started called America First Legal. They have they
27:49
have cases that are that are going to be heard
27:51
by the Supreme Court coming up, and this guy's fucking
27:55
just They're being like, oh, what's up, dude. So I
27:57
would be more outraged, but you know, it's I think
28:01
just the the there's been a great job of obscuring
28:04
how partisan the Supreme Court has been for many years.
28:07
But yeah, like it's just it's it's just wild to
28:09
be like, Okay, so this is where we're at. We
28:12
have completely like lost control of the Supreme Court and
28:16
that they're just openly being like, yeah, dude, I kick
28:18
it with fucking Sebastian Gorka and the homies. Yeah, they're
28:21
openly building a fascist movement like that's you know, global
28:25
global fascist movement, and where it's right at the right,
28:29
at the middle, it's in there. It's just wild because
28:32
you see like all the time, like like a law
28:36
professor was chining and they're like you, this is absolutely
28:39
like terrible for Supreme Court justice. I just want to
28:42
read the words of Emery. University School of Law professor
28:45
Tanya Jacoby said, quote Supreme Court justices should be extraordinarily
28:49
careful and not only having no actual ethical difficulties, but
28:52
having no appearance of an ethical conundrum as well. And
28:56
I'm like, do you think they give a fuck? Seriously,
29:01
I know some people believe that's how it is, but
29:04
we're taking people like we're just letting you know, the
29:07
process is allowing people who have no sense of like
29:11
what is you know what, like what's sanctified about the
29:14
Supreme Court And like a lot of people like democrats,
29:17
like I just can't believe it, but you gotta believe it,
29:22
Like that's that's what the that's what the end game
29:24
is for these people. They're not playing by the same rules,
29:26
and it just feels like like pre Viking Europe where
29:29
people were like, don't worry if there's if there's a
29:32
cross on this building with all the gold in it,
29:34
people will know it's of God and they won't want
29:36
to go to hell or anything. Then Vikings showed up,
29:39
who are like, bro, we don't believe, we believe in
29:41
not saying, and they just took everybody's ship, and the
29:44
people like, oh what happened. It's like you're dealing with
29:47
the same thing. These people don't respect the same ideas
29:50
you have, so to act like they're gonna protect anything, Uh,
29:53
it's just it's exhaustly. Yeah, the norms are gone. Nobody,
29:58
nobody is shocked by anything. I was going back through
30:01
the tweets of the year because we're doing a like
30:04
social media year and review for when when we're off,
30:07
and there's this one from at one red chay or
30:10
gh E conservatives we want to murder all people with
30:15
pronouns in their bio liberal snort we as a pronoun.
30:20
I feel like that's like, that's the level the fight
30:24
is happening, Like gotcha with with the word play instead
30:29
of they're they're they're pretty there they seem to be
30:32
taking this seriously, so maybe maybe we should. It's like
30:36
getting robbed and being like, oh, well somebody's broke. Yeah,
30:40
you're like, uh yeah, but they're still gonna make you
30:42
run your ship. So what have you actually done here?
30:46
Georgia as somebody who has to inhabit the mind and
30:50
personality of you know, so someone who is is kind
30:55
of friendly to this way of thinking, how do you
30:58
think about this just a general state state of our Yeah,
31:04
it's look, it's sad like if you uh, you can
31:07
go that route right where it's like super depressing. I
31:10
think like one of the things that stands out to
31:13
me a lot with like because you know, I have
31:16
to first of all, let me say this. So you know,
31:18
my show, like like you said, like we're kind of
31:21
satirizing these types of guys and these types of podcasters
31:24
and whatnot. So like on YouTube and whatnot, you know,
31:27
I will watch a bunch of like Jordan Peterson videos
31:30
or Benja Pio videos or whatever for like ideas, you know,
31:32
because we do scripted bits too, and like now you
31:35
see how the algorithm works, because if you go to
31:38
my YouTube own page, you would think I was like
31:41
out of my fucking mind and all I did was
31:43
watched like, you know, fucking twenty of these bits that
31:46
are like three minutes long. But you see how it's
31:49
just the more that content you consume, the more and
31:52
more extreme ship they start like recommending to you, like
31:56
the al Goes. And then I'm like, oh, this is
31:58
how it happens. Like you watch the Jordan Peterson video
32:00
where he's like clean your room, and you're like, Okay,
32:03
there's nothing wrong with someone saying clean your room, I guess,
32:05
and then like six months later it's like neo Nazis,
32:08
you know what I mean. That's like and it's like, oh, funk.
32:11
Like that to me is probably one of the most
32:14
oppressing aspects of it. Is like if we didn't live
32:17
in a world where we have Algoes feeding us what
32:20
it thinks we will, like, would would people would as
32:25
many people be being pushed out to the extremes that
32:28
they are, you know what I mean? And that's kind
32:31
of sad. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to say how
32:34
much the like Chicken and Egg of like the algorithm
32:39
versus like just the overall fascist movement, like it's all
32:43
but so intertwined is yeah exactly, do you know what
32:46
I mean? Yeah, the last the last like super big
32:49
rise of fascism coincided with you know, the invention of
32:54
like the loudspeaker and radio becoming very popular and you
32:59
know phil and TV and like things that could reach
33:02
a lot of people. And it feels like, right, well,
33:05
when we don't have those things locked in and like
33:08
they get out further than we're able to kind of
33:10
deal with it as a species, this tends to be
33:13
the initial reaction is just let the fascists kind of
33:18
go wild, like you see that on just chat rooms.
33:22
If if a chat room isn't moderated, the fascists come
33:27
in and just start wrecking the tone and start like
33:31
saying horribly offensive things, and and they try and normalize
33:37
that behavior where it's like it almost becomes numbing to
33:40
someone where it's like, well, there's so much of this ship.
33:42
Maybe this is just normal. Obviously you're not having a thought,
33:46
but this is subconscious erosion of people's minds. Like I
33:49
US used to say, like if Trump was like as
33:54
crazy as he is, I always felt like he would
33:57
actually have been more hated and less popular because I'm like,
34:02
he's so insane and so many that he's he says
34:05
so much crazy ship that it becomes numbing to people
34:07
where it's like did you see what Trump said? Or like, yeah,
34:09
well it's Trump. Whereas if he had, if any other
34:11
president had said one of the things he said, it
34:13
would have been a fucking uproar, you know what I mean.
34:16
But it's you know, that's who he is. That's his
34:18
reputation is just like insane, insane ship saying racist ship,
34:22
whatever it is. And then people just like are like
34:24
used to it in a in a fucked up way,
34:26
you know. Yeah, flood the zone with ship is absolutely
34:30
is a stated strategy of you know, Steve Ben Flood
34:34
the zone with ship. Speaking of Trump, I mean, it's it.
34:36
It's probably worth talking about this Fox News freak out
34:39
over libraries Christmas decorations because another threat to our society.
34:44
Another another huge streat to our society. So it became
34:47
a major news story. It was basically one library and Deadham,
34:52
Massachusetts population twenty five thousand, opted not to put up
34:56
a Christmas tree this year. One person patron of the library,
35:01
Oh I guess it was a branch supervisor, wrote a
35:04
Facebook post with Facebook is where all the good discourse
35:06
is happening, complaining about the decision, pleading please bring Christmas
35:10
back to my beautiful library. The post didn't mention that
35:14
the library was still packed full of Christmas stuff. There's
35:17
a giant wreath on the door, Santa elfin, snowman decorations
35:21
on the desk inside, like the front desk, first thing
35:24
you see. There are Christmas DVDs and books prominently displayed
35:27
for the season, and there's even a gift wrapping station.
35:31
And also there's a bunch of Christmas trees in the
35:33
town hall that you like walk past to get to
35:36
the library, and in a community garden just steps away
35:39
from the library. So it's like somebody had to draw
35:42
a border in their mind and be like, these Christmas
35:45
trees don't belong to the library, so it's not fair.
35:49
But this, of course prompted news outlets to descend on
35:52
the town because of a angry Facebook post. They interviewed
35:57
angry residents, one of who complained that the library is
36:00
celebrates other holidays like Pride Week, Fourth of July, Thanksgiving, Kwanza,
36:04
and the Jewish holidays. Interesting, but I'm also this person
36:08
is wild, They complained they're like, yeah, you know the
36:10
dumb ship like fourth of July. I'm like, okay, what
36:16
it's so weird? This person is probably like like a
36:18
has like a fringe political ideology too, like they're homophobic,
36:22
but they're also like Thanksgiving celebrating a genocide, Like is
36:26
that what you're saying or you're just anti Turkey? But anyway,
36:28
I thought that was an interesting dates that he chose,
36:32
and they are, by the way, they are also celebrating
36:34
Christmas to a to a wild degree with a gift
36:37
wrapping station. And but Jesse Waters of course picked us
36:40
up reported that the first shots have been fired on
36:43
the War on Christmas graphic, claiming there's a Scrooge among us.
36:47
You might remember Scrooge, the character of famously had a
36:49
wreath on his door and lent out DVD copies of Elf.
36:53
That yeah. The publicity led to the library staff being
36:57
bullied and threatened online. The town eventually said they would
37:01
put trees up in the libraries, claiming that much of
37:04
the backlash transpired before we had even started our seasonal decorating,
37:09
so this was like all based on a conversation that
37:12
they possibly misunderstood. But Jesse Waters this show proceeded to
37:17
Docks the library director like out this person who's just
37:21
trying to do their job and called her a grinch.
37:25
They were like, she's the town's library director and she
37:28
banned Christmas and then claimed that the decision to put
37:31
a tree in the library was due to pressure from
37:34
his show. So there's a victory for them. It's just
37:40
our writer, Jam points out, one of the very few,
37:43
because this isn't even technically like they hadn't put up
37:46
their Christmas decorations yet when this controversy started. The only
37:50
time that you can really find an incident of a
37:53
Christmas tree band in the news you have to go
37:56
back to the eighties. And we've talked about this in
37:58
the past, the time that Donald prevented his tenants from
38:02
having a tree or even Christmas decorations in the apartment
38:05
building he owned in the eighties. Mm hmmmm mm hmmmmmmmmm.
38:11
It's they're so worried about Chas, they're just grasping it ship.
38:16
It's just so weird, just flailing at ship. Like remember
38:20
remember it was like Biden really jumped the gun on
38:23
his decorations. Meanwhile, they were outside lighting up their fucking
38:27
Christmas Tree in New York like the same fucking day,
38:30
like hours before they even ran that story, and now
38:33
this one is there wasn't tree. Yeah, you know what
38:37
I mean, Like it's so I at at a certain point,
38:40
I'm sure this is also why like they're like having
38:43
trouble with like voter performance too, because like I get
38:47
that there is some sense of outrage like if you're
38:50
if you're living in this ship of like what is
38:52
happening to Christian America or whatever, But I think there
38:55
for other people who might not be as invested in that,
38:58
it's hard to like keep that kind of outrage up
39:00
that actually be like that We'll get you to the
39:02
point where like and the world needs to change and
39:04
I'm going to dedicate myself to that because the steaks
39:06
are much higher for people living on the other side
39:09
of the coin who are like asking for real things
39:12
like fucking healthcare. So I'm like, it's just it's odd
39:15
that this is always just the way they chum the
39:18
waters with it, like lazy fucking outrage ship, because this
39:21
feels like even their producers are like wait, wait, wait,
39:24
so like there's others like maybe they're saying happy holidays
39:27
like no, no, they're saying Merry Christmas or their trees,
39:30
Like no, there's sucking trees like all like in the park,
39:33
like in the city hall, like on your way in,
39:35
but inside like the next gift wrapping station. I didn't
39:37
see a tree. Fuck alright, man, well yeah, it's really
39:41
a difference of opinion of interior decorating, like holy shit,
39:47
yeah it's uh yeah, well grinch trees are infensive. Yeah
39:54
have you man? I try, I try to buy a
39:56
mini fucking tree. I have a reusable one because I can't.
39:59
Like I remember one time I wanted to tree the
40:01
six ft tall and like six years ago, like that's
40:04
a minimum like hundred ten hundred ten dollars. I was like, shout,
40:08
get my reusable one. But even like the small ones
40:10
are like or maybe that's just the l A And yeah,
40:14
I think I think it's all pretty expensive. I'm ranting
40:17
about trees, you know, ye, not the kindy smoke, that's right. Yeah, alright,
40:22
let's take a quick break. We'll be back to talk
40:24
about fusion. And we're back, and the news out of
40:40
science is undeniably good. Scientists at a lab in California
40:44
created the first breakthrough a nuclear fusion technology that seems
40:48
to suggest we might be on a path to be
40:51
able to create clean, sustainable energy using basically the same
40:56
power as the sun, but here on Earth, just like
40:59
create a little sun from this l a Times article
41:02
last week, for the first time, they designed this experiment
41:05
so that the fusion fuel stayed hot enough, dense enough,
41:08
and round enough for long enough that it ignited and
41:12
produced more energy than the lasers head deposited. Which that's
41:17
that's what you need. The net energy game was about
41:19
two mega jewels in about three mega jewels out. I
41:23
was reading all about him, like, I don't know what
41:24
a fucking mega jewel is? Is that like a vapor cartridge?
41:28
Like what the funk are we talking about? But there
41:31
are plenty of articles that were like, hey, dumbass, this
41:34
is why this ship is freck important. And I'm like,
41:36
oh shit, because normally, right we're using fission reactors in
41:42
nuclear power plants, which are splitting atoms and create radioactive waste,
41:47
like in the form of spent fuel rods. This is
41:50
literally fusing them to create an energy like a net
41:54
energy game and has no like has none of the
41:57
pitfalls of like fission reactors. It's clean, which I was like, oh, okay,
42:02
so no like Chernobyl Fukushima type ship also infinite, like
42:08
it's clean and once you get it going like it's
42:12
it's a party for for all to have fucking energy.
42:15
That was like that's when I was like, I see,
42:17
I see that is that's big. Yeah. Yeah. It also
42:22
generates three to four times as much energy as fission,
42:25
which itself is already roughly a million times more powerful
42:28
than any other energy source on Earth. So how many
42:32
times more roughly a million times more powerful, a million
42:37
times more? Wait? How many? How? Wait? How what's fusion? Is?
42:40
How many times more than fishing? Three to four times
42:43
as much as jesus if that's wow? Okay, yeah, so
42:47
it's very very intriguing, very promising. Still, like the fact
42:53
that we don't use fission, the thing that's already a
42:56
million times more powerful than the their energy that we
43:01
have available to us. I think that has more to
43:03
do with it not fitting into the world's preferred paradigm
43:08
of the moment, which is global corporate capitalism. Like you
43:12
you need the government to intervene and handle a nuclear reactor. Essentially,
43:19
that's not a thing that can be like easily privatized.
43:22
You can't just like find some you know, plutonium rods
43:27
and you know, become a nuclear billionaire overnight. You know.
43:35
So I don't know, it's like we already have a
43:38
fairly when when you look at like people writing about
43:41
the nuclear energy that we have available to us through fission,
43:44
like it's already pretty safe, and you know there are
43:48
some downsides, but not nearly the amount of downsides that
43:53
fossil fuels have. But you know, through a steady drum
43:56
beat of like disaster movies and overblown news disasters, it
44:02
keeps it as something we're afraid of, and I don't
44:05
I don't know if it's that they're all overblown, I
44:08
mean not all over like compared to swaps of a
44:13
nation like unforsaspable. I think it's bad, but I get
44:17
I get the point because I think my first reaction
44:20
is like nuclear bad. No, yeah, Simpsons, three eyed fish. Yeah,
44:24
I'm specifically like from the Simpsons. I'm trained to be
44:28
scared of nuclear energy for sure, but greenhouse gases have
44:32
like killed way more people. Yeah, George, why do you
44:35
have a similar reaction? What's your first thought when you
44:39
hear nuclear energy. I mean, I like you and just
44:42
assume it's bad. But I'm like, I don't know. I
44:47
in my mind, I'm like, if we had a thousand
44:49
nuclear plant nuclear energy plants in America, would that meant?
44:52
Would that be all? Wouldever be it? Like? Would that
44:53
be the only energy we would need? Because I feel
44:57
like I've read stats like that where it's like, you know,
44:59
it wouldn't take that many nuclear power plants around the
45:02
world to like power the entire world. Yeah, It's like
45:05
it's and in my understanding is it's clean until there's
45:08
a Chernobyl, But then when there's a Chernobyl, that's really
45:11
fucking bad and you get the thread fish like he said,
45:13
you know what I'm saying. So how many how many
45:15
tronols have we had? So we've had like two or
45:19
has there been a bunch more than I that I
45:21
don't know about. There's Fukushima there, There's definitely been some
45:24
high profile disasters, and there there is something I think
45:28
naturally that scares us about like such a sort of
45:33
hard to wrap your mind around, like form of power.
45:36
But I definitely don't think fission, especially is without its flaws.
45:41
It's just when you look at what gas like and
45:46
cold has has done two people. You know, it kills
45:50
them in ways that they're comfortable with. I guess right,
45:53
you know, well, I guess comparatively, like you have more
45:55
deaths from fossil fuel burning energy generation you would like
45:59
these nuclear or you know, like millions or something. Yeah,
46:03
like way, way wait wait wait way more. Yeah. I
46:06
think that's what makes the fusion thing so exciting is
46:09
where you go, well, guess what, None of that is
46:12
a possibility with fusion. In fact, like you can't even
46:14
make nuclear weapons with fusion, like a fusion reaction type
46:18
like facility. So there's like all this stuff. You're like,
46:21
it's actually the best fucking way possible. And but then
46:26
like and I'm like, okay, great, so we're out of
46:28
the woods. But again, I feel like they only were
46:30
able to do that in a small, controlled like experiment,
46:35
and now it's about scaling that up to like a
46:36
commercial level, which they say is like maybe a couple
46:39
of decades away. But yeah, yeah, there was there was
46:45
this lake near my college that was man made, and
46:48
there was a nuclear power plant nearby, and the lake
46:51
was always warm, and the local people were like, yeah,
46:54
the power plant, Like it's just because you know, like
46:56
the like the pipes or some ship like running. It's
46:58
like so it's always warm, it's always warming it. And
47:00
I was like that sounds bad, Like that sounds really bad.
47:03
Like we're swimming in like a man made lake. It's
47:06
a hot spring and hot a nuclear powered hot spring. Nuclear. Yeah,
47:12
you guys want to go swimming at the nuclear hot spring? Yeah,
47:14
you want to go to three eyed Frog Lake? Right? Okay.
47:18
It is again like talking about things that are like
47:20
really intertwined. It's hard to figure out how much of
47:23
it is just like a natural fear of like, well,
47:26
radiation is this thing that we don't like fully understand.
47:30
We know as bad as compared to fossil fuels, But
47:34
there's also been a concerted smear campaign by fossil fuel
47:38
companies to make nuclear energy terrifying because gas is something
47:43
one person can you know, put in a truck and
47:46
sell to another person. And you know, nuclear power you
47:50
need government level budgets to invest in a power plant
47:56
that requires you know, massive infrastructure resources, and then everything
48:02
you know from there is much more efficient. But that's
48:06
not a thing that you can like easily incorporate into
48:11
the system of the money system of the world. And
48:14
then also like the most most of the money in
48:17
the world are a great deal of the money in
48:19
the world, at least at this time, is tied up
48:21
in the current system of global capitalism and private privatization
48:26
and deregulation, and this would move and you really, you
48:30
really want to closely regulate these nuclear power plants. They'd
48:33
be like whoa, whoa, whoa, everybody's getting electricity now for
48:37
like cheap off fuck because they're already like you think,
48:40
how hard, like fossil fuel companies for fighting solar energy
48:45
and like, but but technology has gotten to the point
48:47
where they're like, sorry, like this one's just gonna get
48:49
away from you more and more as more people are like, well,
48:51
funk it, then I'll put on my house if I
48:53
have to. Like the idea where they're like, well, fun, man,
48:55
they just a fucking sun gives them that and this
48:58
thing makes like a son basically that they can exploit
49:02
the energy off of. That's like a fucking nightmare for
49:05
like a lobbyist whose interests are like, gotta keep gotta
49:08
keep the fucking dinosaur bones at the forefront. Yeah, guys,
49:13
you want to burn up dinosaur bones or some weird
49:16
freaky science future ship. Come on, y'all, I'm with dinosaur bones.
49:21
This might sound like a dumb question, but why is
49:23
fusion so much harder than fission? Like? What is it
49:27
that has made the fusion things so like out of
49:29
our reach? No clue? Okay, respect, I couldn't tell you.
49:34
I wish this was that kind of podcast. Could Could
49:37
it be that fission was you know, easier to turn
49:40
into a weapon, and so they you know that they
49:44
were out at the cutting edge of that, and had
49:45
there there were more resources investment in it. I don't
49:48
know that that makes sense to me, But I actually
49:50
haven't done done the research. It just might be, you know,
49:54
from a science perspective, like much more, much more difficult.
49:57
But I just I'm interested to watch how this story unfolds,
50:02
because you know, I have absolutely no doubt that the
50:08
global corporate order will find ways to sabotage the use
50:13
of nuclear power in this form as well, or at
50:15
least try to. But I also think they'll be going
50:18
with the grain of you know, the hive mind of
50:24
global capitalism, and and people naturally will just kind of
50:28
want to reject this even though even though it I
50:31
don't know, it has a good head start because the
50:34
first thing we're finding out about it is like they
50:36
created a son in a lab as opposed to you know,
50:40
nuclear weapons. So and maybe a benefit the lazy Google
50:45
search I did is that it just takes way more
50:47
energy to fuse atoms than to split them. That's the
50:51
other thing. And the amount of pressure and all this
50:53
other stuff they have to recreate refusion to take place
50:55
just much harder than splitting an atom and make ship
50:58
go boom. I mean it's metaphor, right, It's way way
51:00
harder to like bring things together than just destroy ship. Yeah,
51:04
and then look at and look at the unbelievable power
51:07
unleashed in people and the things coming together versus a part.
51:12
A good metaphor, a good metaphor. But yeah, did you
51:15
guys see that thing with Christopher Nolan recently about Yeah, like,
51:21
so what did he do? He like, he's he's bragging
51:23
that he cru is able to recreate an atomic blast
51:26
without c G I. And then everyone's like, so wait
51:27
are you saying, what did you do? You blew up
51:30
like a small atomic But I didn't quite understand. Yeah,
51:34
we just saw the headline. It to me, it sounds
51:37
like he was able to create a mushroom cloud, you know,
51:40
which doesn't necessarily need like an atomic bomb to do.
51:43
But yeah, I have a feeling that wouldn't put it
51:45
past sick. Yeah, I mean a mushroom cloud. Do you
51:50
guys get that on camera? Yeah. It's also why when
51:52
you look back at like the history of the US
51:55
and you know, during the Cold War there they were
51:58
just so cavalier with nuclear weapons. They're just like bombing,
52:02
just like bombing you know, places in the desert, like
52:06
within you know, sight range of Las Vegas. All the time,
52:11
they had like a Las Vegas beauty pageant that was
52:13
like Mrs a bomb and like you see, like as
52:17
the beauty pageants happening, you could see like mushroom clouds
52:19
in the distance. So I'm sure that also didn't help
52:22
with people's willingness to you know, the fact that it
52:25
was mostly a weapons thing for like when it first
52:29
came on the scene. Yeah. Well, and yeah, and also
52:32
we just have the worst examples when you hear the
52:34
word nuclear or atomic, it's not like yeah, and like
52:38
the jet pack that saved everyone's life, it's like Adam bombs,
52:42
you know that horrible shit or Chernobyl you saw that
52:46
on HBO anyway, that and then your immedia like, yeah,
52:51
but bring on the fusion please, And I think, honestly
52:54
it may I know, like there is a obviously we
52:57
know that something that we could just be like infinitely
53:00
replicated like and created like energy is a bit of
53:03
a kind of gross idea to fossil fuel companies, but
53:07
I also feels like it gives like society the out
53:10
to like where they're like, no, man, if we can
53:12
just do fucking this, then we can fucking eat the
53:15
meat and do fucking everything else, and then we can
53:19
just just nip this part in the butt and then
53:21
have free energy for everyone. So who knows. I mean
53:24
we're not we're not exactly about doing the work in
53:26
this country. So yeah, I certainly saw it. I was like, wow,
53:31
science really did it. Yeah, I mean, it'll just be
53:37
interesting to see if we're willing to use it. But well, right,
53:41
and then the and the other thing being is we
53:42
can't wait twenty to thirty years, so then be like alright,
53:45
clean energy. It's also we need to be doing that
53:48
ship yesterday. So at least we had a breakthrough. Well, George,
53:53
pleasure having you on the daily Zeitgeist? Where can people
53:56
find you? Follow you, hear you all that good stuff? Yeah,
53:59
well everyone should check out the Man Thinkers podcasts with
54:02
big money players. Also an iHeart media podcast. Wherever you
54:05
get your podcasts. If you guys, you know listeners like
54:07
the Colbert Rapport or like Jon Stewart era Daily Show.
54:11
It's more of that vain. You definitely like the show
54:14
and then follow Man Thinkers on Socialist just at Man
54:16
Thinkers and for me it's just at George Caraman, k
54:19
r e m An follow it up. There you go.
54:23
When is there a tweet or some of the work
54:24
of social media you've been enjoying. You know, I was
54:28
thinking about this and I haven't been obsessing over anything recently,
54:32
but there I was kind of feeling all the White
54:34
Lotus like theme song remixes that we're going down in
54:39
the last couple of weeks. Have you guys heard any
54:40
of that stuff? I heard like Out a wild House
54:43
remix like a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, I was
54:47
just I was. I thought it was cool how so
54:51
many people were into that theme song, and I made
54:54
me wonder, like now, did. Is the show as big
54:58
as the theme song? Or is it's just the theme
55:00
song that's taking off? Do you know what I'm saying?
55:02
I like the show. I watched the show, but in
55:04
my mind I feel like people, at least on social media,
55:07
that theme song blew up more than the actual show itself.
55:11
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, the theme song is
55:14
great and apparently like the intro if you like, look
55:17
at the actor's names that are on screen, like next
55:20
to the painting, like the name there's like symbolism and
55:23
stuff involved. Is it's well done? Well done? Right, well done, guys,
55:27
Thanks for having me. This is a pleasure. Was online,
55:30
super fun talk with you guys today. Miles, where can
55:32
people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying? Uh?
55:36
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray, check Jack and
55:39
I out new episode of Miles and Jack got mad
55:42
boost These just dropped. You can hear us, or at
55:45
least hear me half panic about having to play the
55:47
Celtics and it turns out I was right. Also, if
55:49
you like ninety Day Fiance, check me and Sophie Alexandra
55:52
out on four twenty Day Fiance. Uh. You know just
55:56
having a laugh, some having a bit of a last Uh.
56:01
This one is just from at requiem. Arm Jesse tweeted,
56:05
L O L look at this dip shit I saw
56:07
on the street and it's a picture Rudy Jeulian like
56:11
the sidewalk, squinting so hard at his phone and it
56:15
just feels like the most real, like look at this
56:18
dip ship kind of photo. Uh. And I just love
56:21
that because he's got like his outfit is wild. He
56:25
looks like if Oswald cobble Pot got into streetwear or
56:29
like big baggy draft day suits. That's a reference to
56:32
the penguin's original name from Batman. And he's got like
56:36
sketcher shape ups on underneath. I don't know, it's very
56:40
dip shitty, so shout out to you. Yeah, he's just
56:44
squinting at his phone. He's doing that thing where his
56:47
phones on here and he's like, you can find me
56:50
on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien I like to tweet from.
56:53
Zack bud Rick tweeted, everybody at the office got mad
56:56
at me because I said, Ship's Creek seems like a
56:59
show for straight wim men who have bast shortt parties
57:01
at k bars and it seems it seems accurate. I mean,
57:05
it seems right that people got mad at him. Fuck you, Zach,
57:09
that's not cool. Leap Ship's creek alone. I don't know.
57:11
I don't want to get I don't want to run
57:13
a foul of the Ship's creek. You don't want to
57:15
be up Ship's creek due exactly, they don't. You can
57:18
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57:25
Or we post our episodes and our foot note squirrelink
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off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
57:31
as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
57:34
what something do you think people might enjoy? Oh? I
57:36
just want to play some and People's the source material
57:40
for Mr Elliott's Can't Stand the Rain. This track is
57:44
called I Can't Stand the Rain because it's fucking sample
57:48
people's and dope instrumentation. I was It's funny. I was
57:52
listening to this and then super producer Brian was like, wait,
57:55
hold on, hold on, hold on, is that al Greens band?
57:57
And when you listen to it. You could it sounds again.
58:01
Everybody was using the same backing bands and it was
58:03
Al Green's band. Uh you can if you're like kind
58:06
of a musician, or you can't hear it in the
58:08
snare drum and that horn section the Memphis Hordan's anyway
58:11
and Peebles, I can't stand the rain enjoy all right? Well,
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