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episode 39: Tis the Season
The guys wrapped up a phenomenal year of covering the NBA with Producer Jabari as the trio went back through some of the bold predictions from former guests heading into the 2022-23 season.
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Speaker 1
Welcome, welcome one and all, kiss the season. As we're
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about a third of the way through this NBA season
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and checking in on all of our preseason predictions because
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we were so accurate, it's kind of freaky, you guys,
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I would start, I mean, this is not betting advice,
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but maybe take our word as a gospel. Yeah, you
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might want to listen to us. Gay is gonna put
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that out there. You're you're about to hear some evidence exactly.
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It turns out I got bulls eyes. But we are
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here to talk about those preseason predictions with our super
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producer Jabari on today's episode. I'm Miles Gray and I'm
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Jack o'criyan and this is Miles. Okay, okay, we did
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it there. It is third of the way through. Man,
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time to look back, Jabari, how are you feeling about
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this season the third of the way. Feeling good about
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the season in general, not necessarily about our Lakers would
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have them. Oh nothing, don't worry. Santa's got a nice
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gift for us because we've all been good. That's what
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I believe. Yeah, Um, we got some NBA games happening
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on this Christmas. That was That was one of my
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predictions at the beginning of the season that was yes, yes,
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early on, we should say shout out to that very
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early prediction. You nailed that one. Yeah, I should say
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all my predictions were kind of in that vein of
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just like, man, I bet, I bet the NBA even
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has some games on Christmas, and then you're like, what
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if they did an All Star game? What if? Okay,
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so you know how they've done city jerseys. They even
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did them like last season. I think they're going to
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do them again this season, even though they just did
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them last season. Guys, sure enough, call me an absolute
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looney tune, but I think Stephen Curry, he's gonna be
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shooting okay this next season, maybe a little bit better.
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I don't know. I don't know. Well, I don't know.
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I'm not going out on any limbs like that, but yeah, anyway,
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but shall we look back on some of our guests
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predictions and and and see where the wisdom producer went
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back checked us and uh was actually is now in awe,
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he said, his words, not mine, in awe of our
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ability to see into the future. Yeah, bar I read
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that script that we gave you earlier, right now, Okay,
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So Miles and Jack got it all right in the
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good night Okay, we're good, all right, right, yeah, great,
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nailed it, Thank you. I just bulls eye sound effects
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I think we had here in the description is a
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bull's eye sound a boying because you're you're thinking of
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an air here in an arrow hit a bull's eye,
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But it could also be the yea for no reason,
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just because that's a fun sound effect. Theater of the
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mind for the listener. Yeah, no, but jokes aside. When
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I was going through this, I was I was actually impressed. Specifically,
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you guys got a lot you guys got a lot
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of these, right, Okay, thank you for okay, much better
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read stupid. Yeah, there was some surprise because keep in mind, remember,
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you know, for anybody that is, you know, listening, you
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know you can go back if you'd like to go
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back to the Bold Predictions episode. They're supposed to be bold,
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they're supposed to be crazy, They're supposed to be wild
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somehow somehow, you know, as I went down the list,
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there's really only one or two that and we'll get
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to those for sure that you know, we're questionable. Aside
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from that, we were right about everything. We also had
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some really really accurate ones that kind of freaked us out. Um,
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we'll get you later on the episode. Which are the
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ones are saying like, yeah called me now, okay because
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we were missing Cleo in it. Um, So should we
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start off with one of our first guests who gave
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us some predictions, Mr Dragonfly Jones, Yeah, Dragonfly of the
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Jenkins and Joe's podcast here on the network or the
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Volume network as well. Obviously, you know he wears it
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on his shoulder or on his or I guess on
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his chest. Either way, he's a Bronze fan. He was
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rooting for the Lakers, but he was hesitant, which is
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probably pretty smart. He wasn't really sure about rust coming
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off the bench and or whether he believed it would
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be the case. But he was right on that the
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Lakers are currently thirteen and seventeen. You know one game
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in the lost column outside of the Plane, Where were
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you guys on that? I didn't weigh in on that,
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but I did listen back and I did say that
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in our episode halfway through the season, you wouldn't be
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able to make up your mind as to whether he
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wears it on his shoulder or his chest or sleeve. Yeah,
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I did say that. I just wanted to put that
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out there. Ah Um, yeah, I was. I'm still hot
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on the Lakers, as in disappointed. Oh no, like if
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I pulled my collar out, steam shoots out because I
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got the stress sweats. Not right, I don't know. I mean,
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I have to be I want to be a little optimistic.
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I want to feel like this is the most radical
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turnaround we've ever seen. But maybe not. But I want
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to feel optimistic. But I think I think at that time,
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I felt I was a little bit more with my
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chest out a Laker fan from the outer limits of
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our atmosphere. I think about it this way. Okay, what
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did the Lakers start? And then they moved Russ to
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six man position where we said from the start in
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our Predictions episode, this man should be sixth man of
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the year this year. He should be on the bench
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coming in giving him a change of pace, change of speed, pitch.
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And since then they've been I'm not gonna say dominant,
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they've been thirteen and twelve. Uh so pretty good? Oh yeah,
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oh yeah, like that. I mean, when you say it
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like that, come on, you have to read the stats
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like that, just be like, just go more in the
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vibes direction. The vibes. Yeah, they've been better, so yeah, yeah,
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maybe they should be listening to Miles and Jacob at Boostie.
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They already do what's up, Genie? What's up? Rob? Hey?
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Kurt Hey, Kurt Ramby and unfortunately did use an eye
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word and they only put trophies in the place of eyes.
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Oh that's right, that's right, right, I shout out to
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the Rambi Kurt and Linda or the ram By C.
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I don't know. How did you get your holiday card
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from the Rambi? I did? I did? Did they sign
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it the Rambi? Oh yeah, they got to they got
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Are they double eyeing that? Or like how are they
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doing it? Yeah? Oh yeah, I mean if you had one,
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you know. But that's okay. We've seen, we've heard, we know.
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I'm always left out. This is how this goes. What
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about his Do you have a prediction about the plane
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Turkey sandwich? Yeah, he love the plane Turkey sandwich. I
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think he appropriately described Malcolm Brogden as a Plaine Turkey sandwich,
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but not in an inappropriate way like he wasn't like
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it's solid. Yeah, look he's given him, you know, just
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about fourteen points, four rebounds almost four as this off
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the bench. The Celtics have the second best record in
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the league, and he's been exactly what they needed. Man,
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if only I hadn't, you know, outed them preseason, But Jack,
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you didn't. Oh that's right, thank you, Jabari, you went
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back and listened. Yes, yes, the first thing I said
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in my predictions, telling Jabar, what did I say? I
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think you said. It's something along the lines of I
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think people are underrating how good the Celtics will be.
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That was a week attempted your voice. But yes, no,
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that was perfectly to the degree that I hated it.
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You know how you hate your own voice. I hated
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Jared Press and that's accurate. Yeah, I think I said
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something like twenty two and nine around the time that
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we record this. I also predicted that Joe Mazilla was
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going to do a just a better than expected job,
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and would also confuse people with a joke about how
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the only real royal family he's aware of is Jesus,
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Mary and Joseph, even though that's not a thing people
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call that family. And I think that happened. I feel
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like I willed it into existence. What else? Dragonfled Jones
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keeping it going, and he had a bunch you know
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that he was kind enough to join us for the episode. Uh,
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he thought the Warriors were making back to Confidence finals.
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He thought the Pills would be a top four, top
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four seat out west. Now, I'll be honest with you.
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He you know, he was probably right. All of you
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guys were right about the Pills. You know, they do
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look as though they're going to be there. But the
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Doubs are currently fifteen at sixteen, they're tied for tents.
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You know, Steph is expected to be out until somewhere
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around late January, potentially early February. And I'm really not
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sure if, if, if I believe in them this year.
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But are you where are you guys on the Dobs?
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So I did know that stuff was going to be
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injured part way through the seasons, he did say, Yeah,
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I did say that. So my prediction takes that into account.
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And I still think they're going to finish strong. And
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this is no. I I think you're right. I think
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I think we were way off on that one. Yeah,
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everybody was Nobody saw them having this much of trouble. Yeah,
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And the only thing I knew was that by of December,
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Steph Curry will have had a hundred thirty one three
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pointers made. That was just something when I was just like,
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let me just post them out there. But like, how
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close were you on that one? How many does metal have? Um?
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So at four we have Malik Beasley with one ten
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but healed one thirteen, Anthony Simons won sixteen, one thirt
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one And what did you say? Okay, that's pretty good?
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Oh m god, what is going on here? Okay, let's
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move on. This is too freaky. All right, So this
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is where he got. He went all he went all
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in on it. He was big with Milwaukee. Excuse me,
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He's got y honest winning the m v P. If
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pressed into a second choice, he said, Luca, we'll get
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to him later. He's got Defensive Player of the Year
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once again at your Honest and finals MVP. With the Honest,
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they got the best record, best record in the league.
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Janice has been an absolute force and they've done a
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lot of that damage without Middleton, at least for a
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good portion of the you know, the first episode, he
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that prediction could absolutely come true. Okay, okay, yeah, all right.
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I think a lot of people were onto the Jannice
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being good at basketball thing. Yeah, this Gianni's guy. Yeah.
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Oh yeah, you mean the guy that had a fifty
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point double double in the finals to close it out.
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Pretty good, I guess if you need them. God, you
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had a fifty point double double. That's wild. I think
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that was only like two seasons ago. He's still pretty good.
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I think, all right, should we take a break and
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then come back? Yeah, let's do it. Do you think
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we should both take a break and come back? Um?
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I said, yeah, I'm with it, all right. I just
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I like to get a consensus. We'll do it now. Yeah, okay,
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let's do it now. We'll be right back and we're back,
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you know, just going through all the ways that we
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predicted the future and Rookie of the Year. So we're
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we're still with Dragonfly Jones who basically predicted Brookie of
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the Year with Paula. I mean, we don't we don't
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know for sure. It's definitely having one of the most
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impressive rookie rookie seasons we've seen in a while. Mm
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hmmmm yeah. I mean, I mean, let me just look
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in the crystal ball. What were we saying about Paolo?
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Can you run that tape back? Actually from right before
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Paolo played his first game, And I think what we
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said was going to happen by December of this year.
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So I believe Paolo will probably know he will lead
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all rookies in scoring and assists. Jack, I'm gonna come in,
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you know, it seemed like you were ramping up to
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say he'd also lead them in rebounding. I'm gonna go
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ahead and say in reboundings. Take hot take, So, Miles
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and Jack today in October, this is what you're predicting. Yes, yes, yes,
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in October leading scoring, an assists, fourth and rebounding. I
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think he's going to be a swell player. As we
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say back here in the past, we love yep, love
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Polo and Chero and I So wow, first of all,
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is that what's that accurate? How close were we let
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me see? H he's currently leading all rookies and scoring
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and assists and Jack? Wow? You you you run away
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with this one fourth and rebounding. Yeah, that's what I figured. Man.
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I don't know, Man, you just kind of see the matrix.
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After a while, you get tired of it. You play
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it enough, who you know, so you can kind of
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see it from both sides, both sides like Chanel, Yeah,
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you know you get playing too. You know that humility there, Jack,
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I've got something for you. He was huge on Maxie.
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In fact, he was kind of a hit of the curve,
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saying he was going to be the best player in
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that back court. Now he's missed half the games. You
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know he'd been you know, your your boy? Did he
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say that even though I told him that MAXI was
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gonna miss half the games? Did he still stick with
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he was gonna be the best player in the back court,
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best player in the back court. Right and right now,
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even though he's missed half the games, he's putting up
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career numbers and points, re bounds and assists. He definitely
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seems like he got a little bit better this season,
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and he was already He's been improving at a rapid rate,
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but probably missed too many games for my tastes, which
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is probably you know, I don't think I came right
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out and said it, but I was like, I don't know,
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that's a that's an interest. I would love to see
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him play better. I think on a per game basis,
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he's gonna be much better. He will miss half his
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games through the first twenty nine games, say, uh, so
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just keep that in mind, and he said, what are
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you talking about? How would you know that? Um? And
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then I said some stuff about the matrix and seeing
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both sides, like channel that opp in the DeLorean and bounce. Yeah,
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that's right. So his final prediction, once again, he's heavy
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on Bucks. He's got Bucks versus Warriors, and he says
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Bucks in six. Now, obviously we don't know that result yet,
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but like I said, yeah, well this is mid season.
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We're just checking in earth third of the way. So
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this is an opportunity for us to revisit this question
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because this is one of the things that's been most
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exciting about this season for me is how wide open
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the West is because the Bucks makes a lot of sense.
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Bucks are have the best record in the NBA right now.
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Bucks Celtics seem like they're probably going to be in
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the finals. That would be my guests. They seem like
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they're kind of head and shoulders above everybody else. The
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fact that Cleveland and Brooklyn are up there, and in
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that conversation, I don't think a lot of people saw
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it coming, uh sixers. I think a lot of people
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they were like a cool pick in the lead up
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to the season, So, I mean, but the Calves and
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the Nets being right back there is exciting. But out
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in the West, I think like the the safe pick
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would be the grizz Like that. That feels like the
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safe pick to me right now, and that's so exciting
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like that, you know, Jah in the in the finals
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would be so dope. The Pelicans are in the top four,
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like as as we predicted did. But wait a second, Um,
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when you're saying safe pick, you mean outside of the Lakers, right, yeah, yeah, Okay, God,
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I just wanted to clarify and you're gonna take your
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entire reputation on that, right Jack, What that the the
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Lakers are the safe pick? M Yeah, totally just because
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what yeah, just because I just want to get this
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over with. Sure, let's go with the Lakers the safe pick.
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Oh good, you heard it here. Yeah, they're looking great,
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They're looking good, and I'm happy for you, guys, happy
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for you. But but well, so, if you were making
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a finals pick right now, Jabari, who is the serious
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basketball mind and does not have access to time travel
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away Miles and I do, who would you put in
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the finals at this point? Grizzlies books like I would
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love to say the Celtics. No, I wouldn't, but you
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would be told. I honestly, I think you're right. The
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Grizzlies are probably the safe pick. Obviously you lack and
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change and healthy and availability, you will make a difference.
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But in a jammed West, I still look at them
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as being the deepest. So if you if you're telling
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me that job is going to be there in the postseason,
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Bane's gonna be you know, fully available in the postseason,
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and they're gonna get this type of play from you know, uh,
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you know, from Triple J. I would say that that's
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going to be one of the toughest ELTs this offseason.
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That's exciting. That makes me very happy. You know what
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makes me happy? Jack. The thing that I was most
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excited about when I was going back through this footage.
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You absolutely nailed it when you when you discussed the
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most improved player, because you specifically said, and like quote,
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the most improved player. It tends to be players that
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go from good to all star caliber. And you mentioned
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guys like yo A d or Zion you could be
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interesting in those conversations. But there was another guy, guy
16:39
from Canada, Shay Gildris Alexander, and I'll be honest, I
16:43
didn't anticipate this because I thought that he would eventually
16:45
be moved. But he's been playing lights out. If I'm
16:48
not mistaken. He's one of like three players that like
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already at this stage and you know in the season,
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you know, to have like three or more game winning
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or time or at least tying buckets. He's been playing
17:00
lights out. Okay, see, is actually still right there in
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the mix. And you know a lot of us would
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have anticipated them being in the Windy uh you know,
17:06
sweepstakes once Chet went down, But they're right there and
17:09
being competitive, and I would have to be fair to me,
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I would have mentioned Shaye gil just Alexander, but I
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had never heard of him at the time that we
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recorded the Predictions episode. So yeah, but I I am
17:23
pretty impressed with the first thing I said, Celtics going
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to be the best team in the East, and I
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still think they might be, even though the Bucks have
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better record than them. Now. The last thing I said,
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I got the narrative right on on the most improved player.
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Um so you know, all joking aside, I am pretty
17:43
much psychic. Yeah, I would say, yeah, I think I
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would have Grizzly. I think that I think the Celtics
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actually couldn't make it to the finals. Yeah, I think
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I think they can. I just feel like, would that
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with that number six on their chest. I'm a fan
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of like playing out of your body as a tribute
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to something bigger than yourself, and I think that may
18:06
help couple to the fact that they're doing well right now,
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although you know, some people are freaking out a little
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bit after hiccups here or there. But yeah, and I
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would love I would love, love love to see Spider
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Man in the finals and that would bring a The
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one thing that I can see getting in the Celtics
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way is that Spider Man and Bain Too, Comic Book,
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DC and Marvel teaming up. The only thing I can
18:34
see getting in the Celtics way is just you know,
18:36
Joe Mazilla cracking them up too much to your next Yeah,
18:40
I have a team that could potentially get in their way,
18:42
and it's someone that Miles in particular mentioned that he
18:45
was very high on the Cleveland Cavaliers. Watch out for him.
18:48
Third seed in the East twenty one and eleven. Currently,
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they did a lot of that damage without you know,
18:54
you know, Darius Garland for I think a good stretch
18:56
of games, you know, right around ten games. You know,
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there are three games off the best record. Yeah. I
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wish I could say I thought they were going to
19:02
go super far, but I was just hot on him,
19:05
so more of a more of a game prediction as
19:07
opposed to a sixteen game prediction. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
19:10
just when I was adjusting your collar and steam shooting out.
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They have the best point differential in the league right now.
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You know, I remember when that used to count for
19:22
something around here, when you would score more than the
19:25
other Fellers would. Yeah, but I mean Boston was running
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away with point differential for a while and uh Cleveland
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Cabs now six and a half point differential. Alright. One
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of our favorite guests, c J. Toldano, had some pretty
19:39
good things to say. He started us on the Russ
19:42
six Man of the Year Revenge Tour season third star.
19:46
They need could be what's happening inside Russ's head, like
19:50
when you're when you're watching out there. Yeah. I don't
19:53
know if that's the objective way that I would describe
19:57
what's happening in this season, but there are moments like yeah,
20:02
Russ Russ Russ Us at the very least, I'm gonna
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and you know it's kind of cliche, but it's really
20:09
nice to see him smiling on the court again. It's
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really nice to see him just simply enjoying basketball because
20:15
and I can admit this as a Lakers fan, we
20:17
were very very hard on him, uh you know, and
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then we drifted into absolute worrying fear, like like possibly
20:25
do it again. Yeah, I wasn't certain hitting into this year.
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So you know, c J definitely nailed that. It was
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on Bucks winning the title as well, and a very
20:34
Laker centric even though you know he's a baby bull
20:36
now he had winning Defensive Player of the Year. I
20:39
don't know that that one will will quite come true,
20:41
but I like where his head is. Yeah, the revenge Tour,
20:45
I think, like to Jack's point, like it is in
20:46
his head because at times like when he rocks that
20:49
baby out of nowhere, you know, he's like ha ha,
20:53
and then I think he's oh and seven with rocking
20:56
the baby or something like that as the record. So
20:58
but I like the energy. I'll lie I like where
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your heads at. Rus, you know, like I said to
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I think you have you still could be six Man
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of the Year. All right, should we take a quick break,
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We'll come back. Yeah, we'll come back. Right, we're still playing,
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we can Yeah, yeah, we should come back. There there
21:13
are some predictions that weren't quite as dead on as
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the ones we've covered so far, and we'll talk about
21:18
those in a little bit. And we're back. Um, hi, guys,
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hey from the first two parts of this episode. Yeah,
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I know. Yeah, so you know there's some God's immortals,
21:43
I think is what we have to call this segment. Yeah,
21:46
so we've already talked about some god level predictions, me
21:51
basically predicting s g A even though I didn't know
21:54
that he was a person before this season. Uh, and
21:58
you know some other stuff. There's some people who didn't
22:01
quite nail it. Josh Eberley from Spotify Live came through
22:06
and this this prediction stuck in my head because I
22:12
was like, man, I am not hearing that anywhere right now.
22:16
You are not hearing this man's name for m v P.
22:19
You're not hearing this team as someone who's gonna make
22:22
noise this year. And then they had a couple of
22:24
good games where I was like, man, we were the
22:27
only place I heard this prediction that is the Trey
22:29
Young is going to have his first m v P
22:32
season and leads to dialogue about him being better than
22:36
Luca and also said that Atlanta was going to make
22:41
a ton of noise this year. So I don't know, Jabar,
22:45
I actually don't pay much attention to the league, But
22:47
can you where where is Atlanta at? How's Trey doing
22:50
so far this season? We'll shout out to my former
22:52
co host on hot takes and shot fakes. That was
22:54
a shot fake right there, because it has not come
22:57
to fruition yet. Oh do you think he was doing
22:59
that on purpose to make us out of our shoes?
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I think he was. He gave us that good upfake
23:03
in the post and flying all over the place. I
23:07
the ram you hit, you know, somewhere in between, I'm
23:10
guessing exactly the Rafters. But yet, no, you know, they're
23:14
just sixteen and fifteen. They're currently into playing, you know
23:16
type situation. The reason why that prediction was was was
23:20
difficult to me was because and I understood, you know,
23:22
he was excited about the Murray, you know, coming over
23:25
and you know, remedying some of what they needed out
23:28
of their back court. But the reason why that was
23:30
a difficult prediction for me is because it was either
23:33
for that to come true, either Trade is going to
23:35
have to just be astronomically better from a number of
23:38
production standpoint or as well as an efficiency efficiency standpoint,
23:42
which he's already you know, putting up, you know, he
23:44
had already put up you know, crazy numbers, or Atlanta
23:47
would have to just you know blow everyone away. And
23:49
obviously that hasn't taken place. Now, we watched the Celtics
23:52
last year, you know, do a complete turnaround in the
23:55
second half. Not that I'm predicting that for Atlanta, but
23:57
that's about the only way that that prediction is gonna
23:59
come true for Joe. So sorry, Josh, you are so
24:02
far the weakest link when it comes to wow, the
24:05
weakest link reference. And we don't even own that, I
24:09
p nah, but we basically might as well. Yeah, let's
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see what else we got, Ben Oliver from the Washington Post.
24:16
So this is where we came with the point. And
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and this is not in the category of bad predictions.
24:21
We only had really like one that jumped out to
24:23
us as like, you know, kind of off base. Ben
24:26
was like, hey, you know, there hasn't been a repeat
24:29
conference final team for the past was the three years
24:32
four years, I think four years, And it turned out
24:35
that wasn't true. He was just making that up, but
24:38
it was not, so that turned out to be true.
24:41
But that was very valuable to hear. As you're like
24:44
trying to make predictions about the season, everybody is predicting like, oh,
24:48
it's just gonna be kind of more of the same,
24:50
Like the Warriors have like this young core that's like
24:53
coming up behind Steph and Clay and everything's just gonna
24:56
be the same. And that has been the deposit of
25:00
like what we've seen this season. So Warriors, MAVs, Celtic Heat.
25:05
I feel like the Celtics have been the one team
25:09
that that has really like held up their end of
25:11
the bargain of coming back. But just generally there's a
25:15
lot of volatility out there. Yeah, it's yeah, I don't know.
25:19
The Warriors, the MAVs have been underwhelming, the Heat also
25:25
not not really doing it to them this year. I
25:28
think without a move made by either of the other
25:31
three teams, I guess the Warriors have the best chance
25:34
to offset that. But I could absolutely see all three
25:37
of those teams either failing to make the postseason or
25:40
you know, going out very early without any actual shakeups.
25:44
Thousand Golden State are in the tenth and eleventh position
25:50
in the West, and that's not where you want to be,
25:53
is what I'm told. Again, I don't pay much. I
25:55
think you want to be above that dotted line. Yeah, yeah, typically,
25:59
I think as hat that's what my grandmother always told me.
26:03
Uh what about Dan pha Valley from Bleacher Report? And
26:06
I know he also I think he was also had
26:09
some love for the Pelicans too, right. It's kind of
26:11
wild that I think he might have been the one
26:14
who put it as Pelicans top four team in the
26:17
Western Conference and they are at number four. H So
26:21
we kind of jumped on on the back of his
26:24
and then we asked Brian to edit out him saying
26:27
it so that we were saying first. But yeah, I
26:30
think he was right. And I think we also predicted
26:32
that Dan pha Valley would take things we say on
26:35
this show and passed them off as his home takes too.
26:38
So yeah, you know, and he actually mentioned your guy Miles.
26:42
He specifically mentioned, you know, Trey Murphy's emergence being a
26:46
big part of it, you know, obviously with everybody. If
26:48
as long as everybody, I'll stayed healthy. The Herb Jones
26:51
has been out of the lineup, but Trey Murphy has
26:52
been absolutely incredible in you know, in replace that was
26:55
quite he that was like he called that one. That
26:59
was Actually that's got level. That's the best prediction I
27:03
think we've covered so far other than mine about Joe
27:05
Mozilla agreed? Agreed, Dan, you get the lightning bolt. What
27:12
about Raj Chapolo another another Laker, Like I just want
27:16
to say I did. I did disagree with him. I
27:18
thought he was mispronouncing Troy Murphy's name, and I was like, man,
27:22
that guy hasn't been in the league for over a decade.
27:26
Golden State Troy Murphy, or like late late career Lakers
27:29
Troy Murphy, or what about Pacers Troy Murphy paths with
27:35
my dad and very nice guy, but um, I did
27:39
not see him making a significant impact for the Pelicans
27:43
this season. And uh, hey, you know what we were
27:46
both at forty two years of age. Yeah, right on
27:49
that one got any counting swish from deep downtown Miles.
27:57
I got you. Roscapolo, you'll shout out the Himbows be
28:00
Nation he was high on Luca. A matter of fact,
28:02
he said, Luca for m v P. And I'll be
28:05
honest with you, man, like I recognize that the individual
28:08
numbers they're they're just astronomical these days. And you know,
28:11
you could you could even call him a bit inflated,
28:14
But thirty two point five, eight point six and eight
28:16
point political is still ridiculous. It's still ridiculous. It's unfortunate
28:21
that his team, you know, hasn't met him. They one
28:24
could say that they missed Jalen Brunson a bit. One
28:27
could say that they probably should have, you know, match
28:30
that match that deal, or given offered him a deal
28:33
prior to him a hidden free agency. But either way,
28:36
they're fifteen and sixteen. I don't think Luca ends up
28:38
winning the a VP um, you know, without a significant
28:41
second half you know, you know, second half increase, you know,
28:43
in the standings. But I will say, he's playing m
28:46
VP basketball. So you were partially right, part right. But
28:50
he kind of did also have a good prediction too
28:52
with the Nuggets. He said they were gonna be the
28:54
top seed. I mean they're in second, so buying Yokich,
28:59
looking for Ricky. I remember looking at that m v
29:02
P Ladder. I'm like, wow, look at those guys up there. Um,
29:07
but now, I don't think one of those guys have
29:09
been there anyware anyway, shout out a d what's the
29:11
m v P Ladder? Just like the heat score? Oh
29:14
oh yeah, I can be found on NBA. Sorry to
29:17
go grape stomping lady on him. I just didn't know
29:19
what you were talking about. Oh, I mean a letter.
29:24
So we're down to our last one. Shout out to
29:26
Mark Schinler w n B, a lead writer most of
29:29
They've Got Now podcast. He was also highing the Pelicans,
29:32
and he had both the Pelicans and Calves being top
29:34
four in their respective conferences and winning fifty plus games.
29:39
I think he's gonna nail that. I think both of
29:40
them will. We did ask for a wild prediction. I mean,
29:43
I guess those were wild. They're they're both right there. Um,
29:47
he got specific with it. So you know, if he
29:50
had said they will both be fourth exactly in their division,
29:55
then maybe I'd give him a little bit more credit.
29:57
But um, but you had Calves a third. Yeah? Sorry keVs.
30:01
Third Pelicans fourth? Pretty good? Uh, but be more specific, Mark, Yeah, yeah,
30:07
get your stuff get it right or pay the price?
30:09
Does anybody know what that's from? Yep, so that your
30:11
short's camp on the one. Every time I hear someone
30:13
say get it right, that goes off in my mind
30:16
like a nostalgia bomb. There it is, and I hear
30:20
get it right, get it tight. But that's different, different
30:24
mood altogether. I exactly I found you miss new Gluteus Maximus.
30:31
All right, well, those are some fantastic predictions, I must say. Yeah.
30:36
I mean it is a little weird to look back
30:38
and be like, whoa, whoa, whoa? Am I part of
30:42
the Stranger Things or something? Why am I freaking out
30:45
like with all this mind power part of the Stranger thing? Yeah?
30:51
I like that. I don't think that thought hasn't crossed
30:55
my mind. Am I part of the Stranger Things or something?
30:58
What's going on here? I mean? But we might be,
31:00
we might be. But yeah, I mean a good look back.
31:02
I mean we're third third of the way through the season.
31:05
We'll have to check back in to see where we
31:06
end up, especially as we get into the postseason. But
31:09
God's Monsters, mortals, we all come together on this show,
31:14
mad boostiees anything else? No, I think just a happy
31:18
holidays and happy New Year. I guess is there another
31:22
episode coming out before the New Year? Best of Yeah, best, yes,
31:27
so check that out. But this will be the last
31:29
time you hear from us in this calendar year, and
31:31
you know, thanks for sticking with us, and listen to
31:33
the show and we'll be back in the new year
31:36
with even more and can't wait to be even right
31:39
about everything. Thanks for sticking with us when nobody else would,
31:42
when they all said everything they say is wrong. Yeah,
31:46
their predictions are bad. The Celtics might not even feel
31:51
a team this year, let alone be good. You know
31:54
a lot of people said we couldn't do it, and
31:56
look at us now, a lot of things and we
31:59
need to We're sticking with us, all right, y'all. We'll
32:02
see you soon. Bye. Oh Jabari Miles are Jack? Oh
32:08
yeah Jack, Yeah, Merry Christmas to me.