Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three on one,
Speaker 1: episode two of Daily's stay production of iHeartRadio. This is
Speaker 1: a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's
Speaker 1: shared consciousness. And it is Wednesday, August twenty third, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three. Oh yeah, two three two three. Oh. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're not seeing the patterns, I don't know what
Speaker 1: to tell you.
Speaker 2: And you should know because it's National Cuban Sangwich Day,
Speaker 2: National sponge cake Day, National ride the Wind Day, Right
Speaker 2: the wind? Yeah, yeah, but it shows like a picture
Speaker 2: of like an old like a Wright Brothers playing, so
Speaker 2: it might be, yeah, you celebrate.
Speaker 1: Is that an extreme sport? Just like flying on extremely
Speaker 1: old back then?
Speaker 2: I think so when it was just people who were like,
Speaker 2: I'm down to die in a rickety like collection of
Speaker 2: popsicle sticks and construction paper with a bicycle at the bottom.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I'm going to become a kite and
Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. Shout out to the right brothers,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean we've said if we've said it once,
Speaker 1: we've said it a thout. Yes, my name is Jack O'Brien, aka,
Speaker 1: I know this little fellow named Ronnie grind's teeth like
Speaker 1: on yea yo. If I ever tell you about Ronnie,
Speaker 1: you would say he's dropping in the poles because he's
Speaker 1: unlike a bowl. Unlike a bowl, it's unlike a bowl
Speaker 1: and so forth, or not built for this, not built
Speaker 1: for this courtesy of the cast role Casanova. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: based on that Ronda Santa's clip where he his eyes
Speaker 1: go through so much they masked rage, complete inner death
Speaker 1: and then like sorrow, deep profound generational sorrow. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: it's dark. It seems like it's dark in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is thrilled to be joined as always by my
Speaker 1: co host, mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 2: It's Miles Gray. AKA, look at me. I'm Rony d
Speaker 2: Lousy with a like a berty. Won't get ahead cause
Speaker 2: I'm posing near dead.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 2: I'm Ronnie D. Shout out Johnny d APIs with that
Speaker 2: wonderful Greece Sandra d Aka you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: with the one fucking musical, I really actually do.
Speaker 1: Know, yes, the many bangers on that soundtrack.
Speaker 2: Are there any black people in Greece? I don't know
Speaker 2: if there are there black like, I know they might
Speaker 2: be in the background, but the all I don't I
Speaker 2: always I always had like a connection with the opening
Speaker 2: of Greece when it was animated, because there was like
Speaker 2: a dude with an afro and I was like, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: representation animated opening, but maybe not there.
Speaker 1: Uh well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in
Speaker 1: our third seat my actor host writer who from back
Speaker 1: in the day on Best Week Ever. That's the first
Speaker 1: place I saw him, this podcast Go Fact Yourself on
Speaker 1: the Maximum Fun Network.
Speaker 2: It's Jake Keith Fans right up.
Speaker 3: I was not informed that there were the musical parodies,
Speaker 3: but I'm on board for it.
Speaker 2: Whatever you want. You know, you got anything.
Speaker 3: By the way I thought you were acting. Are there
Speaker 3: black people in the country of Greece?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely answers that question. But I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: get in the tweets in the movie. Yes, yes, not elas. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the country of Greece no, no, no, the film g
Speaker 2: r e A s.
Speaker 3: Yes in that case no. Yeah, it was white in.
Speaker 1: The seventies version of the sixties.
Speaker 3: Everybody in the fifties looked like they were in their
Speaker 3: thirties in high school.
Speaker 2: It was just like that. That yeah, that mindset. Definitely
Speaker 2: like we see like Pleasantville also where I feel they're like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I think black people were invented, like
Speaker 2: in the sixties when the civil rights like movement came about.
Speaker 1: I don't know, just for this movie, were vented.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the perception.
Speaker 1: That and fantasy movies and literature some.
Speaker 2: Things do predate the existence of human beings that have
Speaker 2: been on this planet since the beginning.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyways, Jakie, it's been a while. How have you been.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it was the last time you
Speaker 1: were on this show prior to the pandemic.
Speaker 3: I believe so. Yes, this is in person, Yeah, in person?
Speaker 3: Remember remember in person? Remember people?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we used to like see each other and hang
Speaker 1: out in person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there were snacks, there were there were whiteboards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were just talking reminiscent about how about moon cheese?
Speaker 3: That was just believe I discovered moon cheese from being
Speaker 3: on this show at.
Speaker 1: Our studio studios. Snacks, did someone come and remove them?
Speaker 3: Like, is there a stash somewhere or are they just
Speaker 3: still just rotting?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll still go in the studio every once in
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's there are shows that still recorded the
Speaker 1: studio it's just we have childcare situations, we have home
Speaker 1: studios that we've built. We can't be in the same
Speaker 1: room some of us.
Speaker 3: You could cut it with a knife, yeaheah. So we
Speaker 3: moved on go fact oorself. We just we used to
Speaker 3: do all live audience shows. Jackie were on one of them,
Speaker 3: and then yeah, the pandemic times, we uh, we segued
Speaker 3: to doing all zoom shows and now we're kind of
Speaker 3: doing a mix. So we're we do about half half
Speaker 3: and half nice zoom and in person and yeah, you know, disadvantages.
Speaker 3: Imagine you guys get to talk to a lot of
Speaker 3: people that you wouldn't get to talk to because they're
Speaker 3: not in the LA area. Yeah, oh yeah, when you're
Speaker 3: not that ambitious. I don't know. We try to do that, No, yeah.
Speaker 2: We definitely we go for people who were just like
Speaker 2: in San Diego. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We even had someone from Palm Springs on recently
Speaker 1: that was crazy. Yeah. Yeah, but we are going to
Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: a couple of things we're talking about. The Ronan Pharaoh
Speaker 1: article about Elon Musk has dropped, and Elon Musk is
Speaker 1: very powerful it turns out outside of it's weird because
Speaker 1: he's like on such a little power trip as like
Speaker 1: the king of his little fifdom on Twitter. But that
Speaker 1: is not for a lack of power elsewhere in his life,
Speaker 1: because he can turn off the Internet for the entire
Speaker 1: Ukraine like fighting force, and has done that multiple times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because like Putin hit him up and was like a
Speaker 1: come on, and they they like Putin is the only
Speaker 1: person who might be richer than Elon, So I can
Speaker 1: see how they would vibe with each other. So we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that article. We'll talk about debate night in America.
Speaker 1: The GOP will be debating tonight. Will not feature Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: He's got something going on, get what it is. So
Speaker 1: we'll just talk about who to look out for in
Speaker 1: the debate. There was a New York Times article that
Speaker 1: raised a red flag about airlines in the United States
Speaker 1: that had all the all the hallmarks of like a real,
Speaker 1: real fucked up situation. Like there's this long section where
Speaker 1: like the head of the FAA is like, guys, fatalities
Speaker 1: are basically impossible under us, like we are we virtually
Speaker 1: this is a quote virtually eliminated the risk of fatalities
Speaker 1: aboard US commercial airlines, and then contrast that with people
Speaker 1: like actually doing the work on the ground, and they're like,
Speaker 1: the staffing shortage is crazy, Like we it's very dangerous
Speaker 1: out here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so just plain dangerous. And the pun was not
Speaker 2: even intended there.
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't. They're spelled differently.
Speaker 3: Executives always know more about what Yeah right, I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're good here line and it's going up,
Speaker 2: So tell me over here.
Speaker 1: All of that plenty more. But first, Jakeith, we do
Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, what is something from your
Speaker 1: search history?
Speaker 3: Well, I am now officially middle aged, and therefore I
Speaker 3: have been watching Colombo. It is an excellent program that
Speaker 3: I used to make fun of people who watched it,
Speaker 3: and as such, when I watch it, I end up
Speaker 3: doing an Internet search for each particular episode or an
Speaker 3: actor whose name looks familiar, who someone I recognize. So
Speaker 3: most so, I believe my last four searches I have
Speaker 3: it here were Colombo, Kiti Sigalh, Colombo, Jose Ferrer, Colombo,
Speaker 3: victay Back. All of them appeared in Colombo, and then
Speaker 3: Colombo Giant Robot, and it turned out they actually used
Speaker 3: the same Robbie the robot from Lost in Space in
Speaker 3: an episode of Colombo. So that that's where I am
Speaker 3: with things, is identifying who was making who are making
Speaker 3: some of their first show business appearances or last show
Speaker 3: disappearances in episodes of Colombo.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it is streaming on Peacock and I cannot recommend
Speaker 3: it enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a lot of I just saw an
Speaker 2: article I forget like about how like the OC was, like,
Speaker 2: you know, so many stars passed through the OC on
Speaker 2: their way to superstardom. But like, you know, a lot
Speaker 2: of people.
Speaker 3: Are on Colombo too, A lot of people on Colombo
Speaker 3: people later on there. Yeah, that's what's so great is
Speaker 3: you have some you know, some incredible screen legend. John
Speaker 3: Cassavettis has an entire episode. He and Peter Falk I
Speaker 3: learned later were good friends.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then then I saw in the credits Katie Sagal
Speaker 3: and I was like, what, how could Katie Siagal be
Speaker 3: in this? I thought, you know, she wasn't a rental
Speaker 3: married with children, and she had a cameo like I
Speaker 3: think her second thing she ever did as a secretary
Speaker 3: in an episode, and it turned out she got the
Speaker 3: job because her dad directed the episode. So no, it's
Speaker 3: alive and well in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: By the way, I was watching the pilot episode and
Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, this is like it really grabbed
Speaker 3: me right away. I was like, Wow, those are really
Speaker 3: good shots. Wow, this is so visually interesting. Wow, look
Speaker 3: at that. And then the credits come. Directed by Steven Spielberg. Wow,
Speaker 3: directed the first episode of Colombo, which means probably, which
Speaker 3: means he probably is still getting residuals.
Speaker 2: For writing the Oh yeah, yeah, you directed the pilot.
Speaker 1: You're and that's good to hear. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Silberg was Kim Coatrall, Samantha from the from Sex in
Speaker 2: the City was also in an episode of Colombo. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm trying not.
Speaker 3: To look I'm trying not to look ahead because I
Speaker 3: like being delighted and surprised, you know when you find
Speaker 3: oh yeah, when you find that like Martin Landau is
Speaker 3: playing twins and that kind of stuff, wow, like yeah,
Speaker 3: oh terrible. Yeah. Well, that's the other interesting thing is
Speaker 3: that they really do have making some good efforts to
Speaker 3: do visual effects. There are times where like like someone
Speaker 3: will will stare at someone and then in their sunglasses.
Speaker 3: You'll have some sort of projection of what was there,
Speaker 3: but it won't quite match up, or like they'll they'll
Speaker 3: try to show something that's on a TV that been whatever.
Speaker 3: Their nineteen seventies version of Roo. Yeah, yeah wrote it
Speaker 3: in and you can kind of see the edges. But
Speaker 3: God love him for trying. Yeah, and they got the
Speaker 3: robot to type. I mean, come on before.
Speaker 1: I think Colombo is also the show that we were
Speaker 1: talking about during the one of our Writers' strike episodes
Speaker 1: when we were talking to some TV writers that a
Speaker 1: lot of like the best TV writing goes back to Colombo.
Speaker 1: Stephen started it and then like every great TV writer
Speaker 1: like worked under him, and then like they all came.
Speaker 1: So it's like this like very linear like family tree
Speaker 1: of TV writers who like all like one generation to
Speaker 1: the next like pass it on to each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it all like goes back to Colombo basic And then.
Speaker 3: To add another real life murder angle is a William
Speaker 3: Link who was the co creator. His house, which I
Speaker 3: was in because I think he had some connection to
Speaker 3: my My college that I went to was where the
Speaker 3: Menendez brothers killed parents.
Speaker 1: He lived there after that. Yeah, yeah, oh wow, So
Speaker 1: nothing like a fan. You know, guy just the guy
Speaker 1: just loves murder. Yeah, yeah, just you know, it's a thing.
Speaker 1: Guy's the murder guy. I'm the I'm the murder guy.
Speaker 2: I have a weird guy. What are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: You know? But I got money.
Speaker 1: That's crazy that their of the pilot episode was ragged
Speaker 1: by Spielberg.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: How old was Spielberg.
Speaker 3: Happen to be? In his twenties? I mean he was
Speaker 3: he was still kind of a wonder of under kids.
Speaker 2: Start, like in the early seventies, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he had he I think it was
Speaker 3: like a year or a couple of years before Jaws.
Speaker 1: Uh wow.
Speaker 3: And oh in the episode, one of the episodes I
Speaker 3: just watched, they had a character who was a boy
Speaker 3: genius named Stephen Spelberg. And I'm sure I'm sure that
Speaker 3: that was like a tip of the cap to him,
Speaker 3: or you know, trying to make fun of him because
Speaker 3: he was this, you know, young boy genius.
Speaker 1: So somebody, this loser we named our young boy genius
Speaker 1: character after you.
Speaker 3: Good luck with this Shark movie ever?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, what is uh what's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 3: Overrated? All right? Uh, this was a little tough for me.
Speaker 3: But I recently, uh, to some miracle of financing, purchased
Speaker 3: a cabin and I had a home inspection done and
Speaker 3: I thought, Okay, great, that's gonna that's gonna cover me
Speaker 3: for everything. Uh. And it turned out there were several
Speaker 3: things that he missed.
Speaker 2: UH.
Speaker 3: And so I'm gonna say home home inspectors are overrated,
Speaker 3: or at least the one that I was assigned, uh.
Speaker 1: Was assigned by the by somebody who had a well okay,
Speaker 1: Tristan the sale going through.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe I fell for it. I've never I've never
Speaker 3: gone through the home buying process before. Uh. And this
Speaker 3: was something that was that was recommended by our by
Speaker 3: our real estate agent, who allegedly is there to advocate
Speaker 3: for us, but at the same time she also wants
Speaker 3: the sale to go through. Yeah. So anyone who's out
Speaker 3: there looking at a home, maybe get your own home
Speaker 3: inspector and uh yeah, just like uh, for instance, our
Speaker 3: the very first day after we closed the refrigerator, I
Speaker 3: noticed what was not working. Uh, And I looked in
Speaker 3: the home inspector report, and the inspector noted, there is
Speaker 3: a refrigerator that was the extent of his inspection. Like
Speaker 3: he hadn't bothered to like open open it and touch
Speaker 3: a can.
Speaker 1: Man, this is great. Look at that. You got refrigerator.
Speaker 2: Over there, got outlets to plug stuff in.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, he didn't like the outlets, so at least
Speaker 3: we know that's not the problem with the refrigerator.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and then and then, uh, there's a small
Speaker 3: deck that's off the back. And then when we wanted
Speaker 3: to get it tightened up and fixed up, and so
Speaker 3: the deck guy came and said, oh, they built that
Speaker 3: on top of the old balcony. And then look at that.
Speaker 3: You can see the old balcony joist. And then they
Speaker 3: just wedged the supports in under that, which again would
Speaker 3: have been nice to know from an inspector before we
Speaker 3: purchase the home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like this part is made out of crackers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, here taste. I mean to be fair, this
Speaker 1: Captain was built like the nineties, sixties. There's there's definitely
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, there's only a lot of
Speaker 1: love in there, but there also is a lot of
Speaker 1: there's a lot of well that that'll work for now.
Speaker 1: It's got a lot of Southern influences, let's say, in
Speaker 1: terms of the repairs were done of not a lot
Speaker 1: of like overthinking of anything. Yeah, like I love the
Speaker 1: idea that you had to get the deck tightened up,
Speaker 1: because yes, I never like a loosely assembled deck was
Speaker 1: Look he.
Speaker 3: Did he did point out the railing needs to be tightened. Great,
Speaker 3: that's fair enough. I'm only to tighten the railing and
Speaker 3: again disclosed, that's all I asked for. And again it
Speaker 3: is a total privileged thing. You know, not everybody can
Speaker 3: get a hause I've never been in this position. But
Speaker 3: at the same time, yeah, it would be nice to
Speaker 3: know literally what you're buying. So I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know at what point the real estate agent and
Speaker 3: the inspector and everyone else got got together to have
Speaker 3: a good laugh at our expense. But I hope they
Speaker 3: enjoyed their I hope they enjoyed their drinks.
Speaker 2: I mean there, I don't think you have zero recourse
Speaker 2: if you do feel that, like you were, like, you know,
Speaker 2: at least got a terrible home inspection. I'm sure at
Speaker 2: some point you can like at least complain, so like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we can't. I can definitely let the
Speaker 3: let the real estate know. Hey, I think this guy
Speaker 3: missed some stuff in case, you know, you're gonna recommend
Speaker 3: him to somebody.
Speaker 2: He's like, wait, who's this. I don't know, Sorry, this
Speaker 2: is like a phone. I don't know right now, I
Speaker 2: gotta go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had at least a new deck. You can't
Speaker 1: at least put a dead rat on his windshield. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the home inspector, which the chimney guy. I'll give this
Speaker 1: guy credit. The chimney guy found a dead bat in
Speaker 1: the which was not great, but better than a live bat.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, trying to look on the bright side.
Speaker 1: So hospitable to bats was exactly mons.
Speaker 2: Ceased to exist when entering this fireplace.
Speaker 1: My aunt and uncle just sold their house, and my
Speaker 1: uncle was telling me this thing he learned during the
Speaker 1: process that real estate agents, compared to the people they
Speaker 1: were representer just people who aren't real estate agents, their
Speaker 1: homes stay on the market for like six months longer
Speaker 1: on average than everyone else, like because they know that
Speaker 1: like a viral come along. They're not in a panic.
Speaker 1: But when they're representing you jump on this. I don't
Speaker 1: know if anything else is coming through. So and presumably
Speaker 1: the home inspectors, who they know, are just gonna give
Speaker 1: it a nice little once over and the ones who
Speaker 1: are going to like go in and like really inspect
Speaker 1: their ship, and then you know.
Speaker 3: That probably you got to the cans. I mean, guys,
Speaker 3: come on, yeah, I got to touch the cans.
Speaker 2: That's right then, because part of me singing like if
Speaker 2: a real estate aid like they want to get the
Speaker 2: price down for you, so their inspectors should be going
Speaker 2: in and like that. This is fucked up, this fucked up.
Speaker 2: Tighten that up. No, I mean.
Speaker 1: They don't want to get the price down.
Speaker 3: The price, but I mean.
Speaker 2: This is I don't know. I guess this is me
Speaker 2: being like, when are they advocating for the customer?
Speaker 3: I know, well, that's why we should opendent.
Speaker 1: They tell you about the property, that's why they're advocating.
Speaker 3: And to be fair, we did we did sign something
Speaker 3: with both with the inspector and the real estate agents
Speaker 3: saying that you know, so I'm certain you know as
Speaker 3: far as recourse or whatever, you know, I'm sure it's
Speaker 3: all it's all a legally and all that. And then
Speaker 3: who wants to go to quarter get a.
Speaker 2: Little Yeah, I might remind you to look at paragraph four. Okay,
Speaker 2: it just says.
Speaker 1: Nana Nana Nana exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, refer to the.
Speaker 1: Two of you with your legs kicked up smoking cigars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so weird.
Speaker 3: Sharing. I'm going to try to fix the refrigerator myself.
Speaker 3: I I have qualified myself by watching a YouTube video. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and uh ordering a repair kit and then I will
Speaker 3: call a professional. Yeah yeah, okay, well, like's get a
Speaker 3: new one.
Speaker 1: The things that I can fix in a household include
Speaker 1: toilet and that's it. Yeah, that's about it. I think
Speaker 1: I think maybe like a pipe, but I think I
Speaker 1: can usually figure out what's going on with one of those,
Speaker 1: but this one. Seator gets pretty complicated.
Speaker 3: This one again, I just watched the I watched two
Speaker 3: different YouTube videos about it. They each had the same
Speaker 3: solution to this, to the problem of the refrigerator for
Speaker 3: this model and I, and neither of them involves opening
Speaker 3: up the back. So I think that part like that,
Speaker 3: I think that I can just do it all from
Speaker 3: like the internal or you know, from from just like
Speaker 3: moving stuff out of the front. Like I'm willing to
Speaker 3: try that. I'm also willing to abandon the project after
Speaker 3: ten minutes.
Speaker 1: So it''s okay.
Speaker 2: I learned, like I've I've looked at all kinds of
Speaker 2: YouTube videos to like do kind of like electrical kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. I learned the most just from having like
Speaker 2: my best friend's dad who's an electrician, who like just
Speaker 2: came by to be like, Okay, let me just show
Speaker 2: you the basics so you do not fucking hurt yourself, right,
Speaker 2: And then he's like, and this is a couple of
Speaker 2: things you need. Now I'm out here. I'll put in
Speaker 2: a fucking GFCI outlet if we need to fucking switch
Speaker 2: it up, you need dim put in. I'll put in
Speaker 2: a light fixture. I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm one with the electric am Damn.
Speaker 3: You're looking to come up to a cabin and do
Speaker 3: a little electrical work for the you.
Speaker 2: Know I might work.
Speaker 1: Scares the shit out of me. I could just see
Speaker 1: myself dead next to a chair underneath like a light socket.
Speaker 3: Do you know?
Speaker 2: Do the most you know, the most responsible thing was
Speaker 2: just turn the power off? You know, like that's a breaker,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I did. Actually that's I did actually fix our stove yesterday.
Speaker 3: And the only reason I did that is because the
Speaker 3: first instruction was unplug it. I was like, okay, yes,
Speaker 3: no risk, nothing. The worst that's going to happen. If
Speaker 3: I'm going to make the stove worse, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to make myself worse. Right, so far, so far, so good.
Speaker 2: What's what's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 3: Well? On my show, go factorself, which I'm sure we'll
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to promote soon enough. We are scheduled
Speaker 3: to have Ed beg Lee Junior on the show. In fact,
Speaker 3: we're scheduled to have him this past Sunday, but we
Speaker 3: cancel it. We postponed because of the alleged hurricane. And I,
Speaker 3: in researching our guests, which I do, I believe that
Speaker 3: Ed Begley Junior is criminally underrated as an actor and
Speaker 3: as a person. Yeah, he's been over He's been in
Speaker 3: like three hundred and fifty film and TV projects. He
Speaker 3: was completely right about the climate and about electric cars
Speaker 3: and about you know, all the stuff he does with
Speaker 3: healthy food and all that. And he was the butt
Speaker 3: of jokes for so many years because he was trying
Speaker 3: to save the planet and now we're all just trying
Speaker 3: to catch up to Ed Begley Junior. And then on
Speaker 3: top of that, he was amazing on Better Call Saul
Speaker 3: and and everything else. He does. He does the comedy,
Speaker 3: does the drama. He's got a new memoir coming out.
Speaker 3: I think Ed Begley Junior is fantastic. And then you
Speaker 3: look at some of these films he made back in
Speaker 3: the seventies, like he worked, he worked a couple of
Speaker 3: times with Paul Schrader and just all these incredible directors
Speaker 3: doing all this, you know, very varied work. And Ed
Speaker 3: Begley Junior. I am on board and I'm very excited
Speaker 3: to host him when we reschedule.
Speaker 1: That show, damn for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, Stay is working.
Speaker 3: And constantly like he's generous with his time. He's you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: he does films, he does feature you know, he'll he'll
Speaker 3: do big, big projects. He'll do things to help people out.
Speaker 3: He's been on Broadway. I mean, he's he's amazing.
Speaker 2: People were clowning him for having an electric vehicle, like
Speaker 2: yeah in the game and they're like and he's like,
Speaker 2: just way too dumb. Fucks in the future basically yeah,
Speaker 2: and then it's very ed but also shout out to him.
Speaker 2: He also went to we went to the same high school,
Speaker 2: not at the same time obviously, but he's also from
Speaker 2: the Valor grew up in the valley. I know he's
Speaker 2: from New York originally, but he grew up in the
Speaker 2: valley too, no kidding, I always yeah, he's always at
Speaker 2: the like studio city to say, yeah.
Speaker 3: You definitely can see him in the valley all over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all the time.
Speaker 3: And for a while it was sort of a joke
Speaker 3: because you knew when you were driving by Ed Begley's
Speaker 3: house because it was the one with you know, the
Speaker 3: solar panels in the electric car and yeah, and now
Speaker 3: all the all the houses in that neighborhood look like
Speaker 3: that exactly.
Speaker 1: There is that Simpson's joke that super producer Brian shared
Speaker 1: that I remember that.
Speaker 3: Powered by my own self satisfaction. That's another thing.
Speaker 2: He did that voice for that joke.
Speaker 1: He was right.
Speaker 3: All that, and you're right and you have a sense
Speaker 3: of humor about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. Well that's very cool. Let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll come back and talk about the new
Speaker 1: use and we're back. Do you guys have a chance
Speaker 1: to read peruse the Runim Pharaoh article about.
Speaker 2: I read a distillation of it from another person.
Speaker 1: Read the distillation. Yes, I did not get to read
Speaker 1: the actual article.
Speaker 3: Okay, I read some ex's about it, Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the big thing is that, like there
Speaker 1: there are big chunks of the US government that are
Speaker 1: heavily reliant on him, like his Starlink satellites make the
Speaker 1: war effort in Ukraine possible to a large degree. And
Speaker 1: there was one point where he like didn't like the
Speaker 1: amount of money he was getting. And also people are
Speaker 1: speculating that he was starting to come around to the
Speaker 1: Russian of the war and had like had some conversations
Speaker 1: with Putin and you know, Ukrainian forces were in a
Speaker 1: battle and the internet turned off right and they were like, hey,
Speaker 1: what what the what the funk just happened? And it was,
Speaker 1: you know, he was holding out.
Speaker 3: He can he can be sure, because he seems very
Speaker 3: well reasoned and on the right side so many issues.
Speaker 2: I mean, looking at his past tweets, he was just
Speaker 2: basically like, yeah, I think like Ukraine needs to like
Speaker 2: chill out and just get back with Russia. That's my take.
Speaker 3: I don't know whatever, but that was weird that when
Speaker 3: I first saw that Ronan Pharaoh wrote elon Musk, I
Speaker 3: was a little disappointed that it wasn't about something like
Speaker 3: the kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a little bit. And it also like,
Speaker 1: for for as dumb as he looks on the Twitter
Speaker 1: thing specifically, and as dumb as he looks in specific
Speaker 1: anecdotes throughout this, he is making smart moves in terms
Speaker 1: of acquiring power, putting himself in a position to be yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely necessary to the US car So.
Speaker 3: Weird is because you know, so much of his the
Speaker 3: messages he's been putting out are about these the sort
Speaker 3: of micro decisions that he's making. You know, when when
Speaker 3: you've got this huge thing, it's like you'd think, I
Speaker 3: guess if I guess, he doesn't have a publicisty, he
Speaker 3: doesn't have anyone consulting him, he doesn't have anyone to
Speaker 3: say no to him. But you think they'd be like, elon,
Speaker 3: let people know that, like you control the Internet over
Speaker 3: an entire country, Like that's such a more important thing.
Speaker 3: Then I'm deciding that we're gonna get rid of the
Speaker 3: block button on you know, on this app that that
Speaker 3: millions of fewer people use nowadays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that the starlink think the starlink thing
Speaker 2: may just sort of lead to a greater conversation of like, wait,
Speaker 2: how much power does this dude have? Like no, no,
Speaker 2: but is like kissing the ring.
Speaker 3: You're desit like stark Industry's territory. Now, oh yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean if you literally, you literally can affect the outcome
Speaker 3: of a of a war. And of course you know
Speaker 3: it's never great when billionaires cozy up to dictators.
Speaker 2: No no, no no.
Speaker 1: And Putin is like people think maybe the actual richest
Speaker 1: person in the world world, So I mean they they
Speaker 1: would have aligned priorities from that respect, because Putin's just
Speaker 1: surrounds himself with cello players who are worth three billion
Speaker 1: dollars for some reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, huh, what's interesting. It's kind of a symbiotic relationship.
Speaker 3: You look at how much that you know, when it
Speaker 3: was even before Elon. You know what Twitter did for
Speaker 3: Russia in terms of, you know, getting their propaganda out there.
Speaker 3: You know a lot of I don't know how monetizable
Speaker 3: that's been for Elon. Uh, he's you know, taken so
Speaker 3: much of the value out. But it is an interesting,
Speaker 3: you know relationship of you know, what what's in it
Speaker 3: for each of them? Like what's in it for Elon
Speaker 3: if they're you know, unless there's some secret dealing that
Speaker 3: we don't know about. Yeah, you know which way is
Speaker 3: the money flowing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so NASA is completely reliant on SpaceX to supply
Speaker 1: the International Space Station. And again in this case, the
Speaker 1: second he has the power like that, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: people are relying on him, he become he like tests
Speaker 1: the limits, you know, like there's a there's a launch
Speaker 1: that that FA is like the weather, you truly can't
Speaker 1: launch this, Like this's just like you're not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to land it. And he goes through with that
Speaker 1: anyways and is basically like, and what are you going
Speaker 1: to do about that? You're gonna you're gonna fuck with
Speaker 1: me and you're gonna find me.
Speaker 3: I'd rather ask for forgiveness than permission. And then he
Speaker 3: doesn't ask for forgiveness.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, and then he'll just make a threat
Speaker 2: to He's like, well those motherfuckers can die up in
Speaker 2: the space station, you know, we don't have to go
Speaker 2: up there. And they're like okay, fuck fuck fine.
Speaker 3: But privatization is so great. I mean this is just
Speaker 3: one of you know.
Speaker 1: So wid Yeah. There there's like these moments where the
Speaker 1: like head of the FAA is like calling him after
Speaker 1: he like did this reckless launch to be like hey,
Speaker 1: we're going to ground you for like a couple like
Speaker 1: literally ground your rockets for a couple of months. But
Speaker 1: he opens the call being like you've done so much
Speaker 1: for the space, for the world of space. We're like
Speaker 1: so grateful, thank you so much. Elan Like he just
Speaker 1: can't like walk three steps without somebody kissing his eyes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So same pattern with Tesla, Like their self driving tech
Speaker 1: was rolling through stop lights and the authorities were like,
Speaker 1: you can't program self driving tech that intentionally breaks the law,
Speaker 1: Like you know that, right, uh? And Tesla is basically
Speaker 1: like can too, you know, because the entire infrastructure of
Speaker 1: like electronic vehicle charging is reliant on Tesla chargers. Like
Speaker 1: the the Biden administration like made a change and was like, no,
Speaker 1: it seems like they've got it.
Speaker 3: What are they gonna do? Find him a million dollars?
Speaker 1: Right again, fines don't matter to somebody who's this rich.
Speaker 1: So we've got ourselves in a fine kettle of fish.
Speaker 1: And yeah, basically Tesla back down at the last second,
Speaker 1: but he will use his power as recklessly and aggressively
Speaker 1: as he wants. It seems to be the who can
Speaker 1: see the implication.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, it's like every group you've
Speaker 2: named is basically like in an abusive relationship with him, Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. That really feels like what it is.
Speaker 1: And that's government.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like to respect yourself. He's like, yeah, look, look, doo,
Speaker 2: do you got to make sure your next move is
Speaker 2: your best move? You know what I mean? You should
Speaker 2: get with me. But I think when you like, I
Speaker 2: know that on one hand, we're talking about like, yes,
Speaker 2: he definitely has this tremendous amount of power that he's
Speaker 2: concentrated over the years, and like and now part of
Speaker 2: it is sort of like that like with Trump, is
Speaker 2: like is it that he is so genius or is
Speaker 2: that his instincts are just aligned with this kind of
Speaker 2: predatory behavior of like totally finding those spots and knowing, okay,
Speaker 2: they're in bed with me. Now, oh shit, if I
Speaker 2: get if I control all this ship, then I know
Speaker 2: they can't say shit to me. And if it's just
Speaker 2: sort of like his instincts or you know, is he
Speaker 2: like Machiavelli, like you know, really rubbing his mits. I
Speaker 2: think that's probably just because he's a billionaire. It's just
Speaker 2: his his brain is just set to this kind of
Speaker 2: of like power consolidation.
Speaker 1: I can't I continue to think he's like a genius
Speaker 1: of power consolidation and power acquisition and being a predator.
Speaker 1: Like that's that's how you become a billionaire in the
Speaker 1: first place, is just being a super predator of like
Speaker 1: economic finding economic situations that benefit you and then just
Speaker 1: demolishing people over and over and over and over again
Speaker 1: until you have all their money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sort of the dark side of Hutzba, Like
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It's like nobody, nobody would
Speaker 3: have the gall to try to consolidate so much, or
Speaker 3: try to do so much, or try to ignore so
Speaker 3: many rules and then you know that That's what I
Speaker 3: sort of see in common with with Trump is you know,
Speaker 3: is of course you're not going to be held accountable.
Speaker 2: You're just going to keep going right. Yeah, now, r
Speaker 2: does that momentum lead?
Speaker 3: For sure?
Speaker 1: We're talking about the narcissistic personality disorder, like at a
Speaker 1: pathological level, seems to be the pack for our current system.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like the thing that allows you to be yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and both so thin skinned, you know, so concerned
Speaker 3: about people liking them and praising them, and you know,
Speaker 3: can't handle any any kind of a criticism or you know,
Speaker 3: all the stuff that that Elan's doing on X right.
Speaker 1: Which helps because that like that there is a moment
Speaker 1: in the article where they talk to somebody who like
Speaker 1: works closely with him, and they're like, he wakes up,
Speaker 1: answering emails, goes to bed, answering emails, never sleeps, is
Speaker 1: like lives probably the most miserable life that I've ever
Speaker 1: witnessed in my life. Like he's just but but I
Speaker 1: think that is what drives him, is being that thin
Speaker 1: skinned and just being a petulant baby, and like not
Speaker 1: being willing to admit that when he is wrong, you know,
Speaker 1: and yeah, and then just using every advantage that he
Speaker 1: has to acquire power and then use that power to
Speaker 1: punish the people who said he was wrong in the
Speaker 1: first place.
Speaker 3: But that kitchen sink bit, that was hilarious. Guys, come on, oh.
Speaker 1: My god, so did you write that for him? I
Speaker 1: figure a very funny comedian must have written.
Speaker 3: You called that pro break.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, it's debate night, folks. I can't remember
Speaker 1: a primary debate. I feel like I've been uninterested in
Speaker 1: primary debates before. But this one, this one really. I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I guess maybe people are expecting that,
Speaker 1: like they're going to come for DeSantis and we'll we'll
Speaker 1: get to you know that there are the promises that
Speaker 1: something has gone wrong inside of him and we might
Speaker 1: get to see it come out erupt forth.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I would love to see an un rehearsed moment
Speaker 3: with this antist, you know, I'd love to see someone
Speaker 3: trigger that response.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is on the back foot completely going into
Speaker 2: this debate, like especially with like those debate memo that
Speaker 2: debate like plan leaking, and people are like, okay.
Speaker 1: So I'm about that. What is that?
Speaker 2: Basically there was some ship that said like defend Trump
Speaker 2: hammermas Ramaswami Vivic Ramaswami.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Then there was like another thing that was like so painful.
Speaker 2: It was like evoke family connection with anecdote and like
Speaker 2: it was just like it was just He's like, you know,
Speaker 2: but everyone's gonna have your debate, prep is going to
Speaker 2: have things like that, like who you should go after?
Speaker 3: It shouldn't say a pro approximate human emotion.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it definitely was yeah, like it hold on,
Speaker 2: let me pull it up because the way it's written, Uh, debate.
Speaker 1: Prep Defend Trump is so funny because Trump is just
Speaker 1: shitting on him NonStop. And yeah, his one note for
Speaker 1: how to deal with Trump is defend Trump at all costs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am curious to see because I really have
Speaker 3: Obviously I don't agree with him on most issues, but
Speaker 3: I have really admired how Chris Christy has been kind
Speaker 3: of prosecuting the case and how he's been articulating, like,
Speaker 3: you know, you can disagree with him, but I feel
Speaker 3: like he has been intelligently and clearly saying, you know,
Speaker 3: all these truths about Trump, but also kind of you know,
Speaker 3: what he wants to do with the country, and you
Speaker 3: can disagree about his policies whatever. And I am curious
Speaker 3: if if there's any chance any of that kind of
Speaker 3: message can get through, especially since he'll be you know,
Speaker 3: the only one aside maybe from it was Asa Hutchinson
Speaker 3: I think is also kind of anti Trump. Yeah that
Speaker 3: if any of that message gets through to the people
Speaker 3: watching this on Fox News.
Speaker 2: It's just hard because like you know, he tried to
Speaker 2: do that in twenty sixteen and then he completely capitulated. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he was like, yeah, I love Trump basically, so
Speaker 2: I don't know what the problem is. So he looks,
Speaker 2: you know, he's like a weebel wobble and in terms
Speaker 2: of like what he is able to sort of stand on.
Speaker 2: But that is true, like he is intelligent enough to
Speaker 2: be like, well, he looks the most non Trumpian candidate
Speaker 2: if you're looking at it from that perspective. So in
Speaker 2: this in this fucking memo, it said, here are the
Speaker 2: four basic must do is of your overarching goals of
Speaker 2: the debate. One attack Joe Biden in the media three
Speaker 2: to five times. It's like a recipe, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: state gr d's positive vision two to three times. Then
Speaker 2: it says hammer Vivid Ramaswami in a response for defend
Speaker 2: Donald Trump in absentia in response to a Chris Christie attack.
Speaker 2: So he's that's like kind of you know, he's that's
Speaker 2: so anyway, his home.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to run for vice president is that I'm
Speaker 3: trying to get on the ticket with him.
Speaker 2: I feel like this whole debate is people basically auditioning
Speaker 2: to be part of the administration on some levels. So
Speaker 2: like now we're like, okay, who's going to be on stage?
Speaker 2: Like you said Chris Christie, Ron de Santis, Nikki Haley,
Speaker 2: Vivid Ramaswami who had like some really cool nine to
Speaker 2: eleven things to say this week, Mike Pence, Asa Hutchinson,
Speaker 2: Doug Bergram, and Tim Scott. Doug Bergram is the governor
Speaker 2: I believe of North Dakota who only got in because
Speaker 2: he had this like like gift card scheme in order
Speaker 2: to get as many brothers. He's like basically hacked his
Speaker 2: way onto that debate stage. So we will see, uh
Speaker 2: whereas Bergram Yeah, Bergham, Yeah, I've never heard that before. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because he basically he just basically found a way to
Speaker 2: just sneak in at the last minute. And again, this
Speaker 2: is kind of where a candidate like that or people
Speaker 2: who have nothing going on, maybe they can find a
Speaker 2: moment to like shine or whatever. But I have a
Speaker 2: feeling based on like that leaked memo with DeSantis, He's
Speaker 2: going in and like they're just gonna call me out
Speaker 2: on the memo probably the whole time I say anything.
Speaker 2: But I think he's probably gonna be like the wimpy
Speaker 2: kid that the other candidates are just gonna beat up
Speaker 2: on for points during the debate. So that might be
Speaker 2: kind of cool. And then he like starts screaming about
Speaker 2: Guantanamo Bay. But yeah, not entirely sure who's gonna stand
Speaker 2: out here, because really it just feels like at this
Speaker 2: point all eyes are on Trump, and he said, well,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hang out with Tucker Carlson and I'm doing
Speaker 2: something with Tucker Carlson that night. So the next day, Yeah,
Speaker 2: then I got core. Then I guess I had to
Speaker 2: turn myself in where I.
Speaker 3: Gotta get arrested.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where these Soros funded courts are putting a two
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars bond and making putting conditions on it,
Speaker 2: like I can't make any threats to anyone having anything
Speaker 2: to do with the case, or else I will have
Speaker 2: my bond revoked and who knows what will happen then.
Speaker 2: But he put on truth social this one right after
Speaker 2: we found out, like because the bond hearing was sort
Speaker 2: of like you say, fucking anything, Yeah, like sideways to
Speaker 2: anybody involved with this, and it's gonna get revoked. Now.
Speaker 2: I don't sure I'll believe it when I see it,
Speaker 2: because it just feels like this whole time, this Trump
Speaker 2: is like just sort of like Elon Musk, He's like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: like see you try it, watch this, but he this
Speaker 2: is what he put put out on truth Social Right
Speaker 2: after that, hearing quote the failed District Attorney of Fulton County,
Speaker 2: Atlanta and parenthetical Fannie Willis insisted on a two hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars bond for me. I assume therefore, that she
Speaker 2: thought I was a quote flight risk. I'd life far away,
Speaker 2: maybe to Russia, Russia, Russia, share a gold domed suite
Speaker 2: with Vladimir, never to be seen or heard from again.
Speaker 2: Would I be able to take my very quote understated
Speaker 2: airplane with the gold Trump affixed to all to see.
Speaker 2: Probably not. I'd be much better offline commercial. I'm sure
Speaker 2: nobody would recognize me.
Speaker 1: What is he getting at there with the like it
Speaker 1: just feels like I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think he's trying to say, maybe, like I can't
Speaker 3: how could I be a front?
Speaker 1: How could I be a flight plane? Has got it right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, or you know, there's like a private
Speaker 2: plane and you know I just abscond.
Speaker 1: Maybe to Russia, Russia, Russia.
Speaker 2: Domed. That is so specific that I really would love
Speaker 2: to know more.
Speaker 3: I mean, most of his accusations are confessions and this. Yeah, Also,
Speaker 3: like we're gonna find out later like, oh, they passed
Speaker 3: money to each other in a gold Dome suite.
Speaker 2: Right, the gold Dome suite is where the one full
Speaker 2: comprom ent story occurred. Maybe something like that. But yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe so I don't know. Maybe he'll go to Russia
Speaker 2: and be a common Stephen Sagal or something.
Speaker 1: But yeah, is there a future where he just runs
Speaker 1: to Russia, like loses the election, runs to Russia is
Speaker 1: the new Steven Sagal and we just like get video
Speaker 1: dispatches from him.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked if that happened, because his whole
Speaker 2: thing is like avoiding accountability. So like, if I were him,
Speaker 2: you're probably always have an eye on that option to
Speaker 2: be like, I could always just fuck off to Russia
Speaker 2: and there's no way they can get me there. So
Speaker 2: maybe there's that probably true, But I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think his ego probably wants to see what happens,
Speaker 2: but I have no clue. I mean, we'll see how
Speaker 2: these trials go. But well, that's that's the thing, Jack.
Speaker 2: We just don't know, and we just.
Speaker 1: Don't know the laws will be equally applied to everybody,
Speaker 1: so we've seen DeSantis like kind of be a counterpuncher
Speaker 1: with the media in some cases, Like there were a
Speaker 1: couple things on COVID I remember where he People are
Speaker 1: like he owns this reporter. But it seems like not
Speaker 1: since the campaign has started, has he had any sort
Speaker 1: of response to any sort of adversity or criticism that
Speaker 1: hasn't like felt like it's bordering on unhinged. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: am I missing anything? Has there ever? Has he been
Speaker 1: able to like.
Speaker 3: Think he just fires as a staff member every time
Speaker 3: he gets a hard question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or his like or his boots get bigger, different,
Speaker 2: you said one recent pick of him with his cowboy
Speaker 2: boots on under his suit, and like he always wears
Speaker 2: this outfit, but like the way the boots are like
Speaker 2: too big for the pant leg I'm like, this is
Speaker 2: just bad styling. Well whatever, you got to get that,
Speaker 2: lyft ron, I get it. You want to go vertical
Speaker 2: on him, And of course.
Speaker 3: We wouldn't care if he were a decent person and
Speaker 3: had decent policies and you know, the people in a
Speaker 3: decent manner, But the fact that he doesn't just just
Speaker 3: just adds one other thing to point to.
Speaker 2: He's like I hate everything. So because of that, I
Speaker 2: know hate will be directed at me and I can
Speaker 2: only defend myself with these boots, Yes, damn it. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I think, you know, honestly, like when he
Speaker 2: was you know, quote unquote poning the media back then,
Speaker 2: that was through the lens of just him being this
Speaker 2: you know, like rogue governor. Yeah, and now like as
Speaker 2: it shifts into well how's that compared to these other people,
Speaker 2: how's that compared to Trumps now he's running for president,
Speaker 2: then the attacks get a little bit different, and even
Speaker 2: he can't keep like the energy the same way, being
Speaker 2: more called.
Speaker 3: Out for his bullying now, and he doesn't really have
Speaker 3: a good response for it, because that's sort of what
Speaker 3: it is, you know, because he can't he can't just
Speaker 3: say like, yeah, I'm an asshole. That's that's what I do.
Speaker 3: That's that's that's gonna because I'm an asshole.
Speaker 1: Right yeah.
Speaker 2: Or now he's like telling Bob Eiger, He's like, why
Speaker 2: don't we just knock it off and drop the lawsuit man?
Speaker 2: Because like I won, like I don't care anymore. So
Speaker 2: it's like okay, because.
Speaker 3: Like as usual a lot of times with trolls, they don't.
Speaker 3: They don't think it out to the logical conclusion. It's like, well, well,
Speaker 3: if the other person actually responds, what happened to you?
Speaker 3: Stand up? You know what happens if you stand up
Speaker 3: to bully? It's like, then then then what do you do?
Speaker 3: You know, it's a lot easier to say we're gonna
Speaker 3: ban this, and you know, we're gonna sue this, and
Speaker 3: then when it actually happens, you know somebody, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like the it's it's standing up to a bully.
Speaker 3: It's a car catching up to the dog. They don't
Speaker 3: know what to do with themselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: Well it'll be interesting. I guess Chris Christie's our greatest
Speaker 1: hope because like, I don't think that helps. I don't
Speaker 1: think Mike Pence is gonna like have much smoke for him, right.
Speaker 2: We'll see if knowing him, he's gonna go up incrementally
Speaker 2: when he's like I felt like I was in danger
Speaker 2: on January sixth, and you're like, okay, dude, they tried,
Speaker 2: they were gonna whatever. Yeah whatever.
Speaker 3: Man, See, he's got a little speech ready about you know,
Speaker 3: I alway was asked to do something in the Constitution
Speaker 3: doesn't allow me to do it, and so I didn't
Speaker 3: do it, And then I believe that's made a difference
Speaker 3: in any of the pully.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. It's funny too because so many of
Speaker 2: these like the way they talk to the voters, it's
Speaker 2: like they're talking to like Republican voters that don't exist anymore,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like like like DeSantis evokes
Speaker 2: the military and stuff like that, it was like, but
Speaker 2: you guys have completely jettisoned your like that connection or
Speaker 2: your respect for the military with Trump, like where you know,
Speaker 2: whether it was people like Colonel Vinman or gold Star families,
Speaker 2: they were like fuck these hater ass military people, like
Speaker 2: fuck a veteran, to the point that that became normal.
Speaker 2: So it's just like odd where like all of these
Speaker 2: people just seem like the same version of like trying
Speaker 2: to be like a nineties Republican, like early odds Republican,
Speaker 2: but also yeah, no more but like winking at like
Speaker 2: light fascism. It's just a very I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be painful, but we'll probably have to watch nonetheless.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take one more quick break and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back.
Speaker 2: And we're back.
Speaker 1: We are. And there's this article in New York Times,
Speaker 1: I think on Monday, where I don't know they it
Speaker 1: seems like so the US like airline industry has had
Speaker 1: a really good run of like there hasn't been a death,
Speaker 1: like a crash, a fatal crash in since I think
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, and they have these policies in
Speaker 1: place that are called like the Swiss Cheese plan, where
Speaker 1: it's like there may be a hole at this level,
Speaker 1: but it's like on top of this other layer of
Speaker 1: checks that might have a hole at a different layer,
Speaker 1: but like ultimately you get down to the bottom and
Speaker 1: like all holes are patched up. There are just like
Speaker 1: checks on checks on checks on checks. But this New
Speaker 1: York Times report is saying that both internal like FAA
Speaker 1: data and also like NASA has an external like they
Speaker 1: keep track of near misses, and like they've really shot
Speaker 1: up in the past couple months even and people within
Speaker 1: the industry are like, I mean, this is not going
Speaker 1: to be anything new for anyone to hear. But the
Speaker 1: staffing shortage, this is a direct quote. Staffing shortage is
Speaker 1: beyond unsustainable. It has now moved into a phase of
Speaker 1: just plain dangerous, one air traffic controller wrote to the
Speaker 1: FAA last year and a confidential safety report. But then
Speaker 1: you have Matthew Layer, an FAA spokesman, who said the
Speaker 1: agency's multi layered approach to safety has quote virtually eliminated
Speaker 1: the risk of fatalities aboard US commercial airlines.
Speaker 3: Virtually doing a lot of heavy lifting in that.
Speaker 1: City virtually, And by that he means we've mostly started
Speaker 1: focusing on the metaverse, yeah, and virtual. Yeah, we are
Speaker 1: going vacation yeah, yeah. But I don't know, Like it
Speaker 1: seems like it's the same the thing that we see
Speaker 1: happening to all industries, whether it be like hospitals or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, companies come in, they h cut,
Speaker 1: cut cut, you know, people make less money, there is
Speaker 1: less staff. It is pleasing to Wall Street. It is
Speaker 1: unsustainable for the people who actually work for these companies,
Speaker 1: and like because the incentive system is set up for
Speaker 1: these companies to be just like look, good line go
Speaker 1: up on Wall Street. We have a lot of things
Speaker 1: falling apart in this country and like this, just like this,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go I don't want to go
Speaker 1: out like this because like some fucking asshole executive was,
Speaker 1: you know, not even from the airline industry, but like
Speaker 1: from some private equity company that owns a stake in
Speaker 1: the airline industry, was like, what if we had half
Speaker 1: of the staff, wouldn't that make my yacht slightly bigger?
Speaker 2: Just saying yeah, I mean I could land well if
Speaker 2: we do that, I could definitely land a helicopter on
Speaker 2: it now, Yeah, which is what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 3: So Yeah, Unfortunately, it's a lot of like you were saying,
Speaker 3: it's a lot of how we deal with issues of
Speaker 3: maintenance and and ongoing you know, bigger macro issues. I
Speaker 3: think maybe I wonder if it's just sort of in
Speaker 3: general to human level, but certainly in the US, you know,
Speaker 3: you look at you know, we don't we don't work
Speaker 3: at fixing our bridges until they collapse, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: you know work you know. I mean, there is the
Speaker 3: corporate rate element of it, where you know, you're responsible
Speaker 3: more for your stockholders inder your customers. I mean, then
Speaker 3: when that involves safety, that's obviously terrible. But yeah, and
Speaker 3: then there's also a little bit of the hubris also
Speaker 3: that like, oh we fix that, and you know, I
Speaker 3: don't you know, but I recently bought a cab and
Speaker 3: had an inspection, and they also do a lot of things,
Speaker 3: so I can very much relate to this. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's it's trying to do so much more with less
Speaker 3: and relying not on the people on the ground literally,
Speaker 3: but on the on the people who are looking at
Speaker 3: the at the numbers, you know, and you look at like,
Speaker 3: to me, my favorite government agency, and I'm sure we
Speaker 3: all have one, is the National Transportation Safety Board because
Speaker 3: they just they come in, they investigate the stuff they
Speaker 3: seem you know, the historically been well funded, and then
Speaker 3: you know, without fear of favor, the issue of report
Speaker 3: and usually the FAA does exactly whatever they say. And
Speaker 3: then lately they haven't as much. They think they're they
Speaker 3: think they're being too cautious.
Speaker 1: Well they got two bosses, they got them, and then
Speaker 1: they've got Elon Musk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there you go. It all comes back to Elon. So,
Speaker 3: I mean, I still feel safe flying. It still is
Speaker 3: the safest form of transportation. But yeah, this definitely, this
Speaker 3: definitely is alarming, and the fact that there's no humility,
Speaker 3: you know, at least in their initial statements. They're not
Speaker 3: they're not saying, you know why they feel they have
Speaker 3: these these risks done, They're not supporting it with you know,
Speaker 3: with evidence. It's just saying, you know, hey, trust this,
Speaker 3: we got this, and then what's the accountability when they don't?
Speaker 3: You know, someone gets fired. That's it.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, pop quiz assholes. For all the people
Speaker 2: making money off the airlines, what do you think is
Speaker 2: going to happen into the company value when there's some
Speaker 2: kind of fucking accident.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they always bounce back that way. You know, they're
Speaker 3: betting bailed out by the government, you know.
Speaker 2: Or it's like that movie did you watch Hijack on
Speaker 2: Apple Teve? That intertell the thing because they get similar
Speaker 2: plot to like bankrupt an airline with like a crash
Speaker 2: and all this other stuff and like dumping the stock.
Speaker 1: Anyway, it's most noteworthy for me for like basically not existing,
Speaker 1: being like an address Elba series that It's like, if
Speaker 1: that was a movie, that would be a big deal.
Speaker 1: I would watch it like I watched Beast or whatever
Speaker 1: the Lion movie was, right, But like, yeah, I just
Speaker 1: like I can't believe how little that series exists. Did
Speaker 1: you watch it?
Speaker 2: Is a good I watched it because when my mom
Speaker 2: was babysitting, Like, she watched a couple episodes, so it
Speaker 2: like it. When I turn on my TV, it's like,
Speaker 2: want to continue. I'm like, I never started this shit.
Speaker 2: And then so I started watching the pilot, and then
Speaker 2: her majesty got completely sucked away. She's like, we gotta
Speaker 2: watch the next one. We gotta watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta watch the next one.
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 3: I love airline disaster movies. I believe I have an
Speaker 3: Apple TV account through a friend, and I have not
Speaker 3: heard of this until you just meant yeah.
Speaker 2: No, no, sa same. That's the thing with that, no
Speaker 2: one knows half the shows Prime, who.
Speaker 1: Like, really truly, these shows might might as well not exist.
Speaker 1: Prime made the most expensive show ever of all time,
Speaker 1: and the only reason people knew about it was because
Speaker 1: it was the most expensive show ever of all time.
Speaker 1: Like that, and then there were a bunch of stories
Speaker 1: about that, and then nobody really watched it.
Speaker 3: Now if they advertised during Colombo on Peacock.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Yeah, I think honestly, I think the racist
Speaker 2: backlash to people seeing black elves may have been more
Speaker 2: of a PR push than anything Amazon. When more people
Speaker 2: were like, damn, these fucking people are mad that they're black. Okay, whatever,
Speaker 2: fucking Lord of they go, I keep that ship.
Speaker 1: This also reminds me of there's a chapter in the
Speaker 1: book Wisdom of Crowds that is about the Challenger disaster
Speaker 1: and like how this group of people just got hijacked
Speaker 1: by this, like a couple people who are incentivized to
Speaker 1: have the launch go off on time, and but like
Speaker 1: over and over, the other thing you see is just
Speaker 1: they had been hypnotized by their own good luck and
Speaker 1: good fortune to that point, like the there hadn't been
Speaker 1: a space crash to that point, and like they were like,
Speaker 1: we fucking landed on the moon, like that shit's crazy.
Speaker 1: Past thirteen happened and we still came out like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we are golden. And so like the exact thing that
Speaker 1: ended up causing the crash was like on the table
Speaker 1: at this meeting the day before the launch was supposed
Speaker 1: to go off, and like a bunch of experts were like, you,
Speaker 1: you're crazy if you're gonna let this go forth, Like
Speaker 1: these like o rings are going to cause the fucking
Speaker 1: thing to explode.
Speaker 3: And gambler's fallacy, isn't it where Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: The gambler's fallacy, where you're like on a you just
Speaker 1: expect the string of good luck to continue. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think the airline industry is kind of going through
Speaker 1: a similar thing where they're like, we've it's an amazing run, folks,
Speaker 1: We're really doing it. We're the best, and.
Speaker 3: Which they are. But that doesn't mean, yeah, it doesn't
Speaker 3: mean you can't pay attention to warning signs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, which I think again, like to the thing
Speaker 2: we've just been saying, with so many industries or like
Speaker 2: our infrastructure, it's like we're all coasting off of that
Speaker 2: initial investment, you know what I mean, like like post
Speaker 2: like post war investmentmentructure power. It was funny then and
Speaker 2: then it was like fuck it, y'all, we got this
Speaker 2: and it's like, dude, this state school is fucking crumpling
Speaker 2: into ash, Like what the fuck is this? It was
Speaker 2: like years ago, dude, it's fine, we put money down,
Speaker 2: nothing happened, and then it does like oh shit, oh fuck.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure with the same thing because of like
Speaker 2: the safety regulations that are in place. Yeah, it's there
Speaker 2: for a reason, but it's not because then you can
Speaker 2: coast off of that ship at the end you have
Speaker 2: to keep maintaining that level of service, you know, and
Speaker 2: that's why you.
Speaker 3: Hear that an old cabin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, Well there's your problem. But like there's
Speaker 1: a part of the story where Biden is like they're
Speaker 1: like the Biden administration has been like asking for funding
Speaker 1: to better staff like air traffic controllers, but like that
Speaker 1: is just a The job of the president is no
Speaker 1: longer like you say a thing and it gets done.
Speaker 3: You gotta be able to give him more money or
Speaker 3: hire more of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he Instead, it's like this job where you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like my hands are tied. Manna talk
Speaker 1: to Congress, to Congress, it's not wrong. Got to talk
Speaker 1: to billionaires, all right. Uh So anyways, there there's something
Speaker 1: if you're if you're flying anytime soon to uh make
Speaker 1: me second guess that.
Speaker 2: Oh God, I hope. I'm gonna go ahead and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have faith for now. But yeah, it's it is
Speaker 2: alarming when the workers of a very important industry are
Speaker 2: saying we are spread too thin at an unsustainable level.
Speaker 3: That was it's very easy for critics to to say, like, well,
Speaker 3: of course they're going to say that because they want
Speaker 3: to you know, they want more money or they want
Speaker 3: less work. So you know which I was greedy.
Speaker 1: Air traffic control Barrens exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all the greedy ground crew buck Yeah.
Speaker 3: But you know what, I would rather overpay and push
Speaker 3: the job of someone whose lives are you know, people
Speaker 3: are depending on for their lives than so many other
Speaker 3: industries and jobs that's done. It's like, yeah, you know what,
Speaker 3: give them an extra hour a day, give them a
Speaker 3: right rather.
Speaker 2: Than extra few bucks an hour, because like they're definitely
Speaker 2: like drifting into like stocked and rush ocean gate ceo
Speaker 2: like mentality of like it's like it's fine, it's everything
Speaker 2: is so fucking safe man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because a homemade submarine hadn't imploded at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean yees yet. He was like, so
Speaker 1: it's probably not going to happen. We're probably good here,
Speaker 1: right all right? Well, j Keith and Stratton, such a
Speaker 1: pleasure having you daily's like, gist.
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Speaker 1: Nice, there you go. Mike Schmidt the baseball player.
Speaker 3: No, Mike Schmidt the podcaster and comedian. There you go,
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Speaker 1: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 3: Well, you might have heard me talk about Colombo, but
Speaker 3: I also I just discovered yesterday this wonderful website called
Speaker 3: Los Angeles Theaters. It's at Los Angeles Theaters are Yes
Speaker 3: dot blogspot dot com. There's a theater in my neighborhood
Speaker 3: that's been sitting vacant for over ten years and they're
Speaker 3: finally doing something with it. And I was kind of
Speaker 3: curious about the history and this guy has this site.
Speaker 3: I spent hours there just learning about like when it
Speaker 3: opened and all the different things that have happened to
Speaker 3: it over over all the years. As you all probably know,
Speaker 3: there's incredible historic theaters all over LA that you know,
Speaker 3: some of which are now you know, a bookstore, a gap,
Speaker 3: and some of which are actual theaters, and and this
Speaker 3: site is such a wonderful, beautiful, loving deep dive into
Speaker 3: their history and all the places they've appeared in films
Speaker 3: and that kind of stuff. So I really I really
Speaker 3: recommend that way. It's called Los Angeles Theaters Theaters with
Speaker 3: an Ari dot blogspot dot. He takes like he finds
Speaker 3: like original articles about like the theater openings and happenings
Speaker 3: and historical images from all over I just discovered yesterday.
Speaker 3: I hope it's not a front for some sort of
Speaker 3: Nazi propaganda.
Speaker 2: But so far, so good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, because I like that. I think you're
Speaker 2: mentioning bookstar on Venturo, Yes, used to be a theater
Speaker 2: and that's one of them. Was like, yeah, that was
Speaker 2: like my go to bookstore as a kid, and I
Speaker 2: was always like amazing. I'm like, wow, it's like a
Speaker 2: there's like a ticket box office and stuff. But then
Speaker 2: you can go in and buy whatever you want. Okay, now,
Speaker 2: I'm definitely gonna check this out.
Speaker 1: Amazing, Miles, where can people find you? Is there a
Speaker 1: working media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: I'm like getting lost in this list of like, whoa,
Speaker 2: there's stuff by my house?
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, yeah, all right, this is great.
Speaker 2: Okay. You can find me at Miles of Gray wherever
Speaker 2: they got at Symbols. You can find Jack and I
Speaker 2: are on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack. I'm Matt Booth,
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Speaker 4: I think we'll be talking about the Central Division in
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