Speaker 1: I'm a little tired today, so I might be doing
Speaker 1: some of this even if totally not a clanker.
Speaker 2: Totally fair, I'm also very tired. I woke up at
Speaker 2: three in the morning with the worst headache I've ever
Speaker 2: had too.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yoh yeah, you woke up at three? Also?
Speaker 1: Yeah, those commercials connected?
Speaker 3: Did you watch the fuck? What was the What's the
Speaker 3: Paranormal podcast?
Speaker 2: Dude? Who you had on? Oh? Jack? Also Other World?
Speaker 3: Other World? It's like, dude, you're like those those two
Speaker 3: women in the Other World thing who were connected by
Speaker 3: the aliens.
Speaker 2: Oh always said that.
Speaker 3: Did you feel like I might be connected?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I still don't listen to it. It's fucking holding up
Speaker 1: for Christmas. I also feel like I might be connected
Speaker 1: to the shooter in some ways across time. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: like in a romantic way, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: I think. I think we're star cross lovers. You're in
Speaker 2: the lake House relationship? Yeah, yeah, like I was.
Speaker 1: I was at the hotel a month before him, and
Speaker 1: then the day before he gets caught. I wake up
Speaker 1: at three in the morning with like fucking anxiety and panic.
Speaker 2: I'm like they're closing in.
Speaker 5: And wondering from McDonald's. Yeah, yeah, all right, all right,
Speaker 5: I buy it. Yeah, there's something there, you know what
Speaker 5: I'll about it.
Speaker 1: I woke up with harp palpitations at three in the
Speaker 1: morning to the smell of egg mcmuffins.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what the was happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my Ted Kazinski book was smoking.
Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three sixty eight,
Speaker 1: episode two of Guys Stay production of iHeartRadio. It's a
Speaker 1: podcast where we take a deep dive into America's feverish
Speaker 1: shared consciousness.
Speaker 2: We know the YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: Go check us out on YouTube Daily zeit Geist pod.
Speaker 1: You can see what I look like saying shit like this.
Speaker 1: Although this episode won't be up there, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: say stuff like that all the time.
Speaker 3: That's this is not Me episode where you'll get to
Speaker 3: see that.
Speaker 1: This is not the episode. This is the episode that's
Speaker 1: being recorded. On a very interesting day on the Internet.
Speaker 1: They've just identified the CEO shooter, the CEO assassin, alleged
Speaker 1: a person of interest, and the reason they find him
Speaker 1: so interesting in this case the gun this crime was
Speaker 1: committed with four days later, and those signature eyebrows and
Speaker 1: those brows.
Speaker 2: Then you know you couldn't pluck your brows at all,
Speaker 2: homie like those like that?
Speaker 1: Is that has to be the first Anyways, It's Tuesday, December.
Speaker 2: Tenth, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6: Yeah, twelve, yeah, two four in infamy Yeah yeah, no, no, truly, truly,
Speaker 6: I'm trying.
Speaker 3: To see, is there any Oh it's I just want
Speaker 3: to say. It is Bobby Flay's birthday today, so shout
Speaker 3: out the chef. Also, rest in peace, Michael Clark Duncan.
Speaker 3: It is also your birthday as well. It's also National
Speaker 3: Lagger Day, and it's only two holidays, National Logger Day,
Speaker 3: and another one I can really get behind. It's Duly
Speaker 3: Decimal System Day. Shout out to all the fucking owls
Speaker 3: who learned how to navigate a card catalog to get
Speaker 3: a book, to do research for a paper that they
Speaker 3: didn't want to do, or add to to get their diploma.
Speaker 1: I feel like that was the baseball card collecting of academia,
Speaker 1: like a thing that we were told was like the
Speaker 1: wave of the future, and we were gonna need this,
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to have You're gonna want to have
Speaker 1: a lot of knowledge in this world, and then it
Speaker 1: just completely went away.
Speaker 2: I had it was only three days.
Speaker 1: By the way, it's a alex was right. December seventh
Speaker 1: is the day that we'll live on an implement.
Speaker 2: Oh you though, oh Pearl Harbor. Oh I thought Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 2: I only knew because of mad Men, which is too Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's hard.
Speaker 3: We're saying that because they caught Luigi.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, this is, this is and that's what
Speaker 1: I meant. Actually not, I wasn't being stupid and wrong
Speaker 1: about history.
Speaker 3: It's what I meant about the Pearl Harbor attack.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying twelve ten like has kind of more
Speaker 1: of a ring to it.
Speaker 2: People, historians. I'm just saying, maybe maybe think about it.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, hero Hito, you could have maybe planned
Speaker 3: it a little bit better for the fucking market for
Speaker 3: the SEO.
Speaker 1: Well seven is so random, Oh my god, so random.
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm just thinking back when the card
Speaker 3: catalog shit was around. I had a habit of stealing
Speaker 3: all the little pencils that they would keep in libraries,
Speaker 3: because you know, this was like a pre digital everything, Like,
Speaker 3: you know, they'd be scrapped for you to write down
Speaker 3: like where the ship wasn't I always I always took
Speaker 3: like a couple of those little pencils. I don't know
Speaker 3: why I never did anything with them, but they were
Speaker 3: there for me to take, so I took miles.
Speaker 1: I always took the little pieces of scrap paper. We
Speaker 1: were destined together together. One we're also connected, me and
Speaker 1: the I don't know if that's making them the cold open,
Speaker 1: but Alex I was pitching that I'm connected in some
Speaker 1: way to the shooter because I was. I was at
Speaker 1: the hotel where it went down a month before it
Speaker 1: went down.
Speaker 3: Then let's not let's not too month, let's accurate hay
Speaker 3: geography already.
Speaker 1: Days certain, it was a number of days.
Speaker 2: And then last night woke.
Speaker 1: Up three in the morning panicked, no no reason why.
Speaker 2: I turned to my wife. I said, they're closing in, babe,
Speaker 2: I need an egg McMuffin.
Speaker 3: You walk up and said, al tuna.
Speaker 2: And I also have big, thick eyebrows too. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: was gonna say, when you were talking about eyebrows, I
Speaker 2: was like, you, you've got a luscious set.
Speaker 1: I was in no way talking about eyebrows. I love
Speaker 1: big and you just got nice big eyebrows too. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if I were to commit that crime, I will immediately
Speaker 1: go full of sugar ray.
Speaker 2: On my eyebrows.
Speaker 1: I would get, I would go like early two thousands,
Speaker 1: you know, Britney spears.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I realized he's Italian, obviously Italian American, but I
Speaker 2: you know, it was where the nineties. If this were
Speaker 2: the nineties, Peter Gallagher would have to play this guy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: right for sure, icon on the eyebrow a right now
Speaker 2: right Irish? But he played uh he played the dad
Speaker 2: in the the Jewish aad in the oc with as
Speaker 2: a man with three Irish names. So yeah, we can
Speaker 2: start correcting that issue until like seven minutes ago.
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, my name is Jack O'Brien aka, and
Speaker 1: this is to be sung to the tune of the
Speaker 1: gay anthem ymca.
Speaker 2: A mail andsis sent straight.
Speaker 1: This song ain't gay, so male since straight, this song
Speaker 1: ain't gay. If you ever believe this not gay song
Speaker 1: was gay, just ask my wife and she will say
Speaker 1: I'm male and sis sin straight and and so forth
Speaker 1: and so on. Courtesy of no clue on the discord
Speaker 1: in reference from to the guy from the village people
Speaker 1: being like, I'm gonna sue anybody who says that song
Speaker 1: who acknowledges that song is a gay anthem at any point.
Speaker 3: No, remember, my wife will sue you.
Speaker 2: My wife will sue you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a high powered attorney in Canada. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: very strange. Although we aren't we in a bit of
Speaker 1: a like period where we're like a free for all.
Speaker 1: He was like, starting January first, I'll start suing.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, January January five, to get it in,
Speaker 3: get it out.
Speaker 2: Of your system, assholes.
Speaker 1: Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
Speaker 1: co host mister Miles.
Speaker 7: Great Miles Great, ak D nine defand and depost fuck
Speaker 7: all health Carsie e ese.
Speaker 3: Okay. Shout out to the frequent news ghost for that
Speaker 3: one little chapel roan with our Luigi Mangioni this morning.
Speaker 3: Is that it's interesting to see just the ebb and
Speaker 3: flow of the Internet, be like, ah, this guy was
Speaker 3: reading at wants to read iin rand and then like
Speaker 3: his six pack. Though everyone doesn't know where to land.
Speaker 2: This is we don't know what to do. This is America.
Speaker 1: I'm just finding out he was Italian. I thought, I thought, Luigi,
Speaker 1: what now I know? Anyways, Uh yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: was the very first thing we said about the story
Speaker 1: is a lot of people can be disappointed the way
Speaker 1: the energy you guys are bringing to this assassin. A
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna be very disappointed. In my
Speaker 1: experience with assassins, they're not always the intellectually, ideologically rigorous.
Speaker 2: And sound individuals that they.
Speaker 3: Weren't posting thirst straps though they weren't posting the difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Some of them were.
Speaker 1: Le Oswald could get it, Miles. We are thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined in our third seat by a very talented
Speaker 1: ze maker and podcast host, one of the hosts of
Speaker 1: You Are Good, a feelings podcast about movies.
Speaker 2: It's Alex. Hello, it's a pleasure to be back. Thanks
Speaker 2: for having.
Speaker 1: Me this very momentous day on the internet, big Internet day.
Speaker 2: How are you doing otherwise? I'm doing okay. I'm I'm
Speaker 2: so excited to be here. You mentioned, uh, you are Good,
Speaker 2: my feelings podcast about movies. I just launched a new
Speaker 2: show called The O C Again, which is why I
Speaker 2: know about Peter Gallagher's what you Got Gals on the Brain.
Speaker 2: That's why I got Gals in the Brain. He uh Yeah,
Speaker 2: We're the OC Again, which is a rewatch show with
Speaker 2: that I launched with my friend Nicostratus. Okay, that's funny.
Speaker 2: You're taking it from one up to however whatever the
Speaker 2: last episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have episode backwards style.
Speaker 2: We talk about the like Nico is a is a
Speaker 2: music critic, and so we talk about the show maybe
Speaker 2: twenty percent of the time, and we're largely just talking
Speaker 2: about two thousand and three through two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you remember, you know, cal it's right, best
Speaker 2: song on the planet planet on the Phantom Planet, exactly. Yes,
Speaker 2: And then one other. I'm so sorry to plug so fast,
Speaker 2: but I get Also, I have a small record label
Speaker 2: called Hi a Culture, and we just released our first
Speaker 2: record by a musician named Carolyn Kendrick. It's called Each Machine.
Speaker 2: And if you're in LA, there's a show on the
Speaker 2: fifteenth at in Pasadena. That's very cool.
Speaker 1: If I had those two things to plug, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have even made it this long. I would have interrupted
Speaker 1: me while I was introducing the show.
Speaker 2: I've been waiting forty one years to release a record
Speaker 2: on the label, So I'm I appreciate my discipline here.
Speaker 2: So yeah, thank you, well done.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Well, Alex, we're gonna get to know you a
Speaker 1: little bit better in a moment. First, a few of
Speaker 1: the things that we're talking about today. The CEO assassin
Speaker 1: hunt is still ongoing. Okay, there is just a person
Speaker 1: who's very interesting to the police for very good reasons,
Speaker 1: who has been apprehended. The Internet has immediately been all
Speaker 1: over his.
Speaker 3: Digital The second, the second wave of memes is even
Speaker 3: it's wild. Every every every sort of bit of information launched,
Speaker 3: a whole fucking barrage of memes. And then the now
Speaker 3: that now that we know his name, the memes now
Speaker 3: or even an escalation on previous things.
Speaker 2: I imagine his name is a gift to I was
Speaker 2: gonna say, I can't imagine fully respectful of Italian American heritage,
Speaker 2: although Erich heritage of assassinating political leaders they do. Time
Speaker 2: really is a flat circle. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about the Hawk toua rug pool alleged again. God, I
Speaker 2: gotta get used to this.
Speaker 1: We're we're reporters here, Yeah, hawk Tua. Uh the Hawk
Speaker 1: to a girl who has talked to the podcast. Uh
Speaker 1: just launch yeah, yeah, no, feel free to laugh. Just
Speaker 1: launched a crypto coin that was trading at a shockingly
Speaker 1: high value for like twenty minutes and then it cratered
Speaker 1: and people are like, wait a second.
Speaker 3: Here, money, I trusted you Hawk.
Speaker 1: It does require a strange like philosophical conversation of like
Speaker 1: differentiating between like is this an illegal scam versus like,
Speaker 1: I guess a non illegal scam, because they're they're all
Speaker 1: pretty stupid, right, all of the cryptos jay Z responding
Speaker 1: to sexual assault allegations in the character of Scrooge McDuck.
Speaker 1: For some reason, his statement is very weird. All that
Speaker 1: plenty more. But first, Alex, we do like to ask
Speaker 1: our guests, what is something from your search history?
Speaker 2: Hmm, what is something for my search history? I wrote
Speaker 2: this down and then obviously immediately forgot it. Oh, I saw.
Speaker 2: I looked up what happened to Bob Matthews's children. So
Speaker 2: Bob Matthews was the leader of the Order, and there's
Speaker 2: a movie out called The Order right now. He's a
Speaker 2: white supremacist who is a taken down in a manhunt.
Speaker 2: And so I was like, oh, where I watched the
Speaker 2: whole movie? In my takeaway is where's this guy's kids?
Speaker 2: And I didn't find out. I have no idea it
Speaker 2: was heavily involved in the story No, they were just chilled.
Speaker 2: They were He had a he had an adopted I
Speaker 2: think four year old and a newborn baby. And I
Speaker 2: was like, well, this has got to be hard for
Speaker 2: you these days, if you you know, sort of this
Speaker 2: is how your your family's being noticed. And I looked
Speaker 2: them up and I don't know where they're at. So
Speaker 2: apparently things are fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently they have good access to uh, you know, scrubbers,
Speaker 1: data scrubbers.
Speaker 2: If you're listening Bob Matthews kids, I want to know
Speaker 2: how you're doing.
Speaker 1: Right, reach out, reach out, Yeah, come on, don't be
Speaker 1: an asshole, let yourself be googlable.
Speaker 2: We want to know.
Speaker 1: I do remember there was a white supremacist whose kid
Speaker 1: who was like whose kid was like very big on
Speaker 1: the podcast circuit in the early days of the Trump
Speaker 1: administration because they were like, yeah, this stuff is really
Speaker 1: bad and it's like very developed and people.
Speaker 2: I think you're referring to the son of the son
Speaker 2: of the person who started storm Front, Yeah, who who
Speaker 2: very grimly he was on the speaking relationship with his
Speaker 2: father and very grimly when Trump was elected, his father
Speaker 2: was like everything we tried and were failed to do
Speaker 2: was happening by way of this man, and I was like, so, anyway,
Speaker 2: check out the order if in the theater. I have
Speaker 2: no skin in the game, but it was compelling enough
Speaker 2: for me to google stuff about it. Off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, how are those kids doing?
Speaker 2: How are those children? The children?
Speaker 1: What's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, underrated? Outside time? I know we talk about
Speaker 2: touching grass. I think we're all in Los Angeles. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm from Maine originally, so when friends send pictures of
Speaker 2: what's going on there, I see that it's the time
Speaker 2: of year that being outside is extremely difficult, and it
Speaker 2: makes me so grateful to be in southern California. But
Speaker 2: getting outside any minute of the day to break up
Speaker 2: sort of monotony and breathe in air generally is my
Speaker 2: my very favorite. I think people should do more of it.
Speaker 2: We all know it, but we convince ourselves that we
Speaker 2: don't need to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, wait, how as somebody who grew up in
Speaker 3: southern California, and whenever I'm like, ah, it's hard to
Speaker 3: be outside, it's because it's like of like one hundred
Speaker 3: and nine degrees. Yeah, what's it like in Maine right now?
Speaker 3: What are we talking?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh? In Maine. It's like gray and like maybe
Speaker 2: like twenty five degrees right now, I mean some days,
Speaker 2: Oh you need to like animal skins.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, okay, I'll try that. I'll try that.
Speaker 2: I do. I do have the moments in the summers
Speaker 2: here where I'm like this is a little bit too much,
Speaker 2: but it is nice too. I spend an average, a
Speaker 2: much higher average outside here than I ever did in
Speaker 2: northern New England.
Speaker 3: Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a lot of commands to go out and
Speaker 2: touch grass. Our guests on Friday's episode were the hosts
Speaker 2: of a podcast Touch Grass. Yeh, it's it's we really could.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that it's it's ghost to sort
Speaker 2: of be a nostalgist, but I do lament. I do
Speaker 2: miss the time where you could just turn the internet
Speaker 2: off like you had.
Speaker 3: To, you mean, when it wasn't there.
Speaker 2: Or you had to like turn it on. It was
Speaker 2: like a three minute process and think about it. Mom,
Speaker 2: are you on the phone? Okay, well, I want to
Speaker 2: go on America Online explain the phone bill?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Fuck? Or yeah, twenty minutes you're gonna be on.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm gonna fucking miss the flame war.
Speaker 2: In the chat root exactly exactly a better time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I put up a sick ai am away message though,
Speaker 1: so I should be absolutely what is something you.
Speaker 2: Think is overrated weed? I smoke. I ingest weed like
Speaker 2: as a person, as a recreational person. I And again
Speaker 2: I know that this is a ghost old person thing
Speaker 2: to complain about, but I do I do sometimes miss
Speaker 2: uh the process of you know, know, if the weed's
Speaker 2: gonna be good or bad, you just get it from
Speaker 2: a guy or a friend and you don't have to
Speaker 2: go to a like an apple like store. What weed
Speaker 2: has become modern weed is sad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like it's exactly too. When all like
Speaker 3: the hippie like grower type people I knew were saying
Speaker 3: when like first like legalization hit Oregon, They're like, it's over, man,
Speaker 3: it's over. You're gonna have all this fucking mickey mouse
Speaker 3: fucking weed where no one gives a fuck about the
Speaker 3: art the act of growing it, and it's gonna be
Speaker 3: mass produced. It's gonna be bullshit. They're gonna and then yeah,
Speaker 3: here we are, and it's wild too. The irony of
Speaker 3: like the legalization, it's actually like just created a boom
Speaker 3: for the black market again because the taxes and shit
Speaker 3: are so high. People are like, bro, I'm not paying this,
Speaker 3: Like I'll just go to the legal weed shop.
Speaker 2: Is the weed not?
Speaker 1: Is the weed not goods in the stores?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just there's also like it's an opi
Speaker 2: at this point, there is I agree, like sort of
Speaker 2: the knowing what you're going to get unless you're like
Speaker 2: a brand adherent and have done it for like many
Speaker 2: times whatever, like it's hard to have any prediction. But
Speaker 2: it's also and again this is such an old man
Speaker 2: complaint and I'm sorry, but I miss it being silly.
Speaker 2: And now it feels like an opioid. Like now sometimes
Speaker 2: it will take I'll take an edible and be like
Speaker 2: all done, like it's all over.
Speaker 8: Nobody better talk to me exactly. I can't trust decisions. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 8: is it like it? So it's a lot a lot
Speaker 8: of information to keep tracking?
Speaker 9: Is it kind of like wine? But like, oh god, yeah,
Speaker 9: that's I've never been annoying. I've never even made that connection.
Speaker 9: But yes, And because again, like you know every difference
Speaker 9: you don't you know, like it's at some point you
Speaker 9: know which movie theater is going to carry pepsi versus
Speaker 9: whats which is going.
Speaker 2: To carry coke? You know, like you know, like different
Speaker 2: the things that you like right different places. I find
Speaker 2: that impossible with like weed and weed strains at all
Speaker 2: of these stores because there's no consistency of like what
Speaker 2: is carried where, so it's often just a crap shoot.
Speaker 2: Like you're like, I hope for.
Speaker 3: So many so many people go off like the thc
Speaker 3: percentage and like because it's high, that must mean it's good,
Speaker 3: and like it's not that those aren't all the ways.
Speaker 2: It affects you. Remember when remember when that was happening
Speaker 2: with I PAS for a long time, and it was
Speaker 2: like this one will cripple you, and it's like this fourteen.
Speaker 3: Fuck, like I don't know, water down some fucking isopropyl alcohol.
Speaker 2: They just put a shot of vodka.
Speaker 1: In a normal I p a, yes, yes, well but
Speaker 1: your your wife thinks you're drinking a beer.
Speaker 2: The response to that in micro brut eventually was was
Speaker 2: coolshes and Pilsner's got really big because people wanted like
Speaker 2: a throwback, just like drinkable beer. And I hope that
Speaker 2: happens with weed, where it's just like a dirt bag bag.
Speaker 3: There's like stuff called like dad weed. Now great, that's
Speaker 3: just like dude, this shit's just low but low budget.
Speaker 3: It's but again, the thing is, the fucking taxes are
Speaker 3: so off the wall that you're paying so much on
Speaker 3: top of it. And that's what I'm like. I remember
Speaker 3: when someone told you a thing that you were buying
Speaker 3: from them was fifty bucks, it was fifty bucks, not
Speaker 3: like well not with tax was seventy two whatever. Blah
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. So these I think in LA,
Speaker 3: and I know New York has such a terrible problem
Speaker 3: with the illegal shops that have popped up because it's
Speaker 3: just the way New York. Oh yeah, the NYPD crazy, Yeah,
Speaker 3: with the illegal shops there, Like fuck, they were giving.
Speaker 2: Up shots of mezcal and I was like, is this legal.
Speaker 2: They're like nothing, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, welcome to Eric Adams is New York. But like
Speaker 3: in LA, there are places like, for example, you go
Speaker 3: and you buy like a fancy three point five gram
Speaker 3: eighth of like you know, dispensary weed. That shit's like
Speaker 3: forty bucks plus the taxes and things like that. The
Speaker 3: illegal shops are like they're like, we have ten gram
Speaker 3: quote unquote eighths for like thirty dollars. Now it's like
Speaker 3: the disparitium price couldn't be larger?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 3: And I think that's pushing a lot of people. Like
Speaker 3: so now it's becoming like a class thing too, like
Speaker 3: you have to like being as it's always right the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: First, but I'm saying like for this kind of weed purchase,
Speaker 3: like before you can go to someone's house and like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, everybody goes this person. Now it's like, do
Speaker 3: you have eighty dollars to buy three joints?
Speaker 2: Like no, it's wild, it's wild.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 2: I want to I obviously want to acknowledge. I'm glad
Speaker 2: we're in a situation where, like, you know, people don't
Speaker 2: risk legal life and women in order to buy read
Speaker 2: in most places like et cetera, et cetera. But right, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know who won largely white corporate tests. Yeah right,
Speaker 2: crazy one for them, you know, they get one, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they get the better. Watch out though, people, people.
Speaker 1: It's cool because when you're buying wheat now you like
Speaker 1: run into your accountant, a guy that you're dad golfs with.
Speaker 2: Yeah cool, alright.
Speaker 3: The button up dispensaries, it is wild, Like there were
Speaker 3: people who walked in. I was like, is this my boss?
Speaker 3: They had such but like your manager that I'm not
Speaker 3: going here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're Q one.
Speaker 1: We're investing a lot in indiccause, uh we've seen a
Speaker 1: real growth boom on those Uh.
Speaker 3: People love being melted, man, They love getting melted, especially
Speaker 3: with the Trump Trumpe inauguration coming.
Speaker 1: You fuckers love getting melted, man, Yeah, you fuckers can't
Speaker 1: get enough of this.
Speaker 2: Anyways, I'll be back here if you need a melt
Speaker 2: over here, let's make them very well.
Speaker 3: Be right back.
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Speaker 3: Crisscross tas and bugs tea.
Speaker 1: What a strange mixture that just worked so perfectly. What
Speaker 1: was it about Taz and bugs seeing them in the
Speaker 1: criss cross outfits? Yeah, backwards clothes for those who don't
Speaker 1: remember backwards Jane.
Speaker 3: Yin and Yang the other ones. I used to wear
Speaker 3: a lot of Bart Simpsons. I almost said Bart Simpsons,
Speaker 3: Bart Simpson t shirts obviously like.
Speaker 2: My dad Colon brad Pit bread pits.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bart Simpsons. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I did have a Bart Simpson's shirt. It was off brand.
Speaker 1: He was dunking wearing a Michael Jordan's jersey.
Speaker 3: A Chicago Bull jersey bull on it. But yeah, those
Speaker 3: things are kind of they're out there. They're out there,
Speaker 3: you can get them all on eBay. I found the
Speaker 3: I Corumba Bart Simpson's surfing and get this, Miles. He's
Speaker 3: upside down but the words are right side up. No, yeah,
Speaker 3: so makes it helpful to read The Taz and Bugs
Speaker 3: shirt readily available. I think I need to regress. I
Speaker 3: think more than like watching a TV show. I think
Speaker 3: if I put on my Taz in Bugs Bunny with
Speaker 3: that criss cross outfit, had a bowl of cereal, it's
Speaker 3: ninety two, baby.
Speaker 2: Oh Man, three bowls of cereal. I always get the
Speaker 2: cereal or oboros going.
Speaker 3: It's just kind of messes me up that I'm saying
Speaker 3: something from thirty two years ago, like it's yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So for our younger listeners, cartoon character T shirts
Speaker 1: was what we had instead of Nirvana T shirts because
Speaker 1: Nirvana hadn't come out yet exactly.
Speaker 3: Because yeah, I mean, whether it's a Nirvana T shirt
Speaker 3: from yesteryear that they're making now, or you know, you're
Speaker 3: picking up merch from one of your favorite bands from now,
Speaker 3: like mine, Hiatus Coyote, you can all find that on eBay.
Speaker 2: You can find it all.
Speaker 1: I went to a concert, couldn't get the T shirt
Speaker 1: because the line was too long and then went and
Speaker 1: got the Vampire Weekend concert T shirt that I missed
Speaker 1: out on on eBay.
Speaker 3: But guess what, we all got a thing we all
Speaker 3: got on eBay. Maybe it's fashion, car parts, trading cards,
Speaker 3: retro movie posters, anything you can collect. So go find
Speaker 3: the thing that keeps you up at night, whatever you love,
Speaker 3: find it on eBay, eBay things people love, and we're back.
Speaker 1: We're And does uppear that the person who perpetrated the
Speaker 1: murder on the CEO of United Healthcare at five hundred hours,
Speaker 1: three days for four days? Hence, uh, that's my best
Speaker 1: cop speak. But what do you also mixed with the
Speaker 1: sheriff of Noddingham or something.
Speaker 2: Four days? Hence we have hens four days.
Speaker 1: The evildoer, I don't know, the person of interests who's
Speaker 1: interesting because he has the gun that the crime was
Speaker 1: committed with and the fake idea with the same name
Speaker 1: that the assassin used.
Speaker 2: Well, they were in New.
Speaker 1: York City, so everybody, it's the moment of truth. A
Speaker 1: lot of people were, you know, hoping that this person
Speaker 1: was going to come through with their exact politics and
Speaker 1: their exact justification for killing this person, and so just
Speaker 1: a frantic googling of like, what's he into? His name
Speaker 1: is Luigi, which is fun?
Speaker 2: Got which can read it? Can I read? A tweet
Speaker 2: by the great labor journalist Kim Kelly, who said grappling
Speaker 2: with the implications of the adjuster turning out to be
Speaker 2: at Italian tech. Jim bro Rat, who went to Penn
Speaker 2: seems to have a pretty gnarly back back injury, retweets,
Speaker 2: anti woke nonsense, and is not read one but two
Speaker 2: books by Steve O. Yeah. I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people are grappling with that very thing America. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the one thing a lot of people are kind
Speaker 1: of gravitating around is that on his good Reads list
Speaker 1: he did read.
Speaker 3: They made it privately, the good Reads list. Yeah, people
Speaker 3: scraped up the the good parts though, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's kind of the funny part when like
Speaker 3: something like this goes public and then you're like, oh shit,
Speaker 3: it's still up, and then peoplere like, oh fuck, yeah,
Speaker 3: I did a lot of people.
Speaker 1: He was retweeting like being like this and this is
Speaker 1: the best tweet that I've ever seen. Like those tweets
Speaker 1: were gone this morning. Whoever tweeted those originally, I don't
Speaker 1: know if they had already deleted them, but you know,
Speaker 1: if not, they were like, maybe this not a good
Speaker 1: look for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and guard of that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, radicalized by or you know, in agreement with
Speaker 1: Ted Kaczynski's manifesto.
Speaker 3: Yes, industrial Society and its future.
Speaker 1: That's right, and he he read that, wrote a very
Speaker 1: long manifesto in response, like in his review on good Reads,
Speaker 1: and then gave it a four out of five.
Speaker 3: Which four out of five.
Speaker 1: I love a solid B plus for a manifesto.
Speaker 2: You know what, I trust that. I for a while,
Speaker 2: what's the what's the movie one? The movie good Reads letterbox?
Speaker 2: I was using that, and I would give every movie
Speaker 2: I saw a five. Yeah, knowing that some GIBBRONI was
Speaker 2: giving it a one for no reason, and I would
Speaker 2: give every movie a five to equalize it. But I
Speaker 2: like the honesty of four out of five because I bet,
Speaker 2: I bet that manifesto drags sometimes.
Speaker 3: It is it seems that is a thing with him,
Speaker 3: Like he was also critical of Jordan Peterson for how
Speaker 3: like convoluted his languages, like if he needs to be
Speaker 3: more succinct.
Speaker 2: I love that. I'm not a fan of the content,
Speaker 2: but I do love someone who can be critical if
Speaker 2: they're stupid.
Speaker 1: The pros yeah, yeah, the pros of Peterson Joe Rogan's
Speaker 1: pros is leaves something to be desired.
Speaker 2: But what do you what do you think? Do you guys?
Speaker 2: Have you talked yet about the conundrum of law the
Speaker 2: law enforcement moment right now? Because you have a folk hero.
Speaker 2: You know, you're damned if you don't catch them for
Speaker 2: obvious reasons. But you're damn. Now, what do you do
Speaker 2: with somebody that many people have celebrated for for doing
Speaker 2: something that sort of symbolizes what they feel like is
Speaker 2: the right thing. Got to put them an Arkham asylum.
Speaker 2: I think that's all right. I think that always works out.
Speaker 3: Well, that's right, And I think it's woefully clear that
Speaker 3: the police they need, they need more resources. This took
Speaker 3: entirely too long for them to find him. That's my takeaway.
Speaker 2: That's all I took for this is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, first of all, our CEOs need to ramp up
Speaker 1: their security, probably incorporate AI powered guns, facial cognition guns,
Speaker 1: you know, like they can lock onto a target and
Speaker 1: just like using facial recognition technology and just vibes, they
Speaker 1: can figure out if they.
Speaker 3: Need to say or not in a way like a
Speaker 3: cop could just put a gun straight up in the air,
Speaker 3: fire around off and that bullet using AI will find
Speaker 3: its way to the problem, would find its way down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would like a gun in Roger Rabbit, Yes.
Speaker 1: Exactly, yes, doing gravity's rainbow and then like land right
Speaker 1: right on top of the head of whoever had just
Speaker 1: had the anti corporate thought cross.
Speaker 2: It's been fascinating watching people I was joking earlier about
Speaker 2: about Italian American history with assassinations, and obviously Saco and
Speaker 2: Vinzetti did not go after politicians. They were accused for
Speaker 2: shooting sort of like bankers and cards. But the the
Speaker 2: it's been and I know that that had negative implications
Speaker 2: to Italian Americans in the twenties. But it's been interesting
Speaker 2: watching people online be like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definition there's like another comedian, Ashley Reeves, who's black.
Speaker 3: She tweeted, texting every Italian American friend I have and
Speaker 3: saying not he, not him being one of y'all. It's
Speaker 3: just like again, every moment has created some other version
Speaker 3: of wacky internet commentary, whether it's you know, an examination
Speaker 3: of crime or good reads or whatever. It's really like
Speaker 3: people are review bombing the Altoona McDonald's where the person
Speaker 3: where he was clocked, and just being like, this place
Speaker 3: is full of rats.
Speaker 2: Don't go there.
Speaker 3: The food sucks, the people will snitch, they said, don't
Speaker 3: go here if you're an American hero. It's again very
Speaker 3: I'm sure, very alarming times for the wealthiest of people,
Speaker 3: because I mean that was the other thing. So many
Speaker 3: of those insurance companies, they vaporized their fucking leadership pages
Speaker 3: where you could be like and here who are here
Speaker 3: is the c suite of this company, and a lot
Speaker 3: of people are just like throw and be like here
Speaker 3: here's how you use LinkedIn to find all of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if you can buy a silencer, yeah you can,
Speaker 2: you can google a CEO, yeah there, or you can yeah,
Speaker 2: you can look it up on LinkedIn the internet, the Internet.
Speaker 3: His Twitter follows interesting though, too. It's like the notable
Speaker 3: ones RFK Junior, hell yeah, AOC, Joe Rogan, Yes, Steve
Speaker 3: O and Phil Jackson one of the greatest NBA, which.
Speaker 10: Is a.
Speaker 3: Leadership Yeah. I think Phil Jackson is kind of has
Speaker 3: like mass appeal, you know what I mean. Either way,
Speaker 3: it's like either you're just like really rigid about like
Speaker 3: leadership and success. You're like, I'm gonna I'm gonna drink
Speaker 3: from the well of Phil Jackson's wisdom, or you're just like,
Speaker 3: I don't know. Phil Jackson kind of seemed like a
Speaker 3: hippie and he was vibing with That's how he kind
Speaker 3: of got the best out of his teams, like from
Speaker 3: not being just understanding the human aspect of of of
Speaker 3: a of a team. But yeah, he's uh, he's got
Speaker 3: a lot and some really interesting thoughts on Japanese culture.
Speaker 3: This it's very again that.
Speaker 2: One is that was not great?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was like, if Japan wants to get
Speaker 3: other demographic like there's here's the thing. He doesn't care
Speaker 3: a lot about the population and people not having kids.
Speaker 3: That's one thing.
Speaker 2: Is it a specific kind of people he's worried about
Speaker 2: not having kids?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, he pot yeah, but yeah it's probably
Speaker 3: like again it's you use the you use that to
Speaker 3: open the conversation and then be like, know, more white
Speaker 3: people should probably be having kids. But yeah, it's it's
Speaker 3: he he has a few thoughts on a like he said,
Speaker 3: you know, Japan is having a population contraction because there's
Speaker 3: too many flesh lights.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the only points he said it's cultural.
Speaker 3: His first point is like ban all the flesh lights.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you're describing inanimate objects, but you're saying this
Speaker 3: is a deeper cultural issue. Can you tell me, like whatever.
Speaker 2: And the flesh lights? All right? I was on board
Speaker 2: until now. Yeah, that's I am a one issue voter.
Speaker 2: I was okay with being critical of Japanese culture generally.
Speaker 2: But once he said bamp the flesh lights.
Speaker 1: First they came for the flesh lights, and I was
Speaker 1: immediate like, hell no, yeah, it stops here.
Speaker 3: And that's why we live in a utopia. Because I
Speaker 3: didn't I didn't say nothing. I spoke there is I work.
Speaker 2: I work in and around folks, and or in and
Speaker 2: around is such a weird way to put what I'm
Speaker 2: about to say. I work around and with folks and porn.
Speaker 2: And we just had a sort of a big fundraiser
Speaker 2: a couple of months ago for for sex workers in
Speaker 2: LA and uh Las, Vegas. And what was really fascinating,
Speaker 2: and especially to raise awareness about Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: And what was so fascinating was to hear all of
Speaker 2: these internet comp like right maybe right wing, maybe they'd
Speaker 2: don't even know that the right wing internet commentator men
Speaker 2: who blame every everything in one way or another on porn,
Speaker 2: which wow, and sex toys and sort of like this
Speaker 2: this these forms of sort of like commercial sexual liberation,
Speaker 2: and it's just extraordinarily revealing how many people could essentially,
Speaker 2: you know, sort of like conspiracy theory red yarn board
Speaker 2: everything back to porn in one way or another. So anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that this this gentleman is is on that train,
Speaker 2: but I guess we're gonna learn a whole bunch of
Speaker 2: ideologically bonkers things about.
Speaker 3: I'm wondering, like, you know, like in terms of like
Speaker 3: preserving the status quo, they probably need to come out
Speaker 3: with like the grossest profile of this person to try
Speaker 3: and give America the ick to be like, oh, we
Speaker 3: don't like this guy. He's fucking gross and I know
Speaker 3: maybe you thought it was cool to do that, but
Speaker 3: he's freakingting.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: Because yeah, I feel like there's already there are reports
Speaker 3: of other CEOs beginning to get threats and like the
Speaker 3: I'm sure the copycat thing is becoming a huge concern
Speaker 3: for for people.
Speaker 1: So I can but as we covered like right away,
Speaker 1: where didn't the CEO who got killed, Like, wasn't he
Speaker 1: dealing with threats all the time?
Speaker 4: I think the threats all the time? Yeah, like due
Speaker 4: to the nature of their work, that.
Speaker 2: There was an infographic that we could look at often,
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 3: No, but let's put it this adage works. Hater's gonna hate,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am. I am curious to see what happens
Speaker 2: with with copycat related stuff only because like what this
Speaker 2: person did was was coordinated and seemingly very very well
Speaker 2: planned in a way that I don't know how easy.
Speaker 2: I mean very Unfortunately. The reason why you see somebody
Speaker 2: like lone wolf like attacks on public places or indiscriminate
Speaker 2: sort of shooting is it requires no planning. So I'm
Speaker 2: I I'm interested to see if anything actually comes up
Speaker 2: this with uh, with copycat folks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's a wild time truth. And
Speaker 3: like what happens if once he has a platform, because
Speaker 3: he will be be able to give comments and things
Speaker 3: like that, like where that goes? Oh my gosh, Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is it's early doors.
Speaker 2: Just could be like, yeah, it's joker, he's this guy's
Speaker 2: a joker. Fella.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy's a joker fella, What are you a
Speaker 1: joker fella? I mean they gave Rolling Stone, gave the
Speaker 1: cover to like sexy Marathon bomber guy, like you just
Speaker 1: do that a couple of years and they were like,
Speaker 1: this guy's fucking low key hot, like two years after
Speaker 1: he did a very unpopular crime that you know, and
Speaker 1: they were still like bad boy generation rebellion or something.
Speaker 1: I forget like how they framed it exactly. But this
Speaker 1: person already has people horned up lusting after them. So
Speaker 1: we'll be interesting to see where it goes from here.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and learn
Speaker 1: what a rug pool is.
Speaker 2: And we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back, And I talked to my financial advisor and
Speaker 1: got some news.
Speaker 2: The talk of the talk to her coin.
Speaker 1: Did not go to the moon, as I had admonished
Speaker 1: my financial advisor, it would.
Speaker 3: Put everything I've got, take it out of index funds,
Speaker 3: put it all in hot coin.
Speaker 2: She got something, yeah, hack coin.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So I guess I vaguely knew that this
Speaker 1: stuff was happening, Like I think I remember when Kim
Speaker 1: Kardashian got in trouble. We got fined for over million
Speaker 1: dollars for recommending a coin to her followers, and then
Speaker 1: it was maybe not fully on the up and up.
Speaker 1: I think I remember there was some conversation around Iggy
Speaker 1: Azalea having a big crypto coin.
Speaker 3: I mean, just if you just think of the celebrities
Speaker 3: right who have been involved with this kind of shit,
Speaker 3: Like there's fucking you know, Manny pakiaw DJ, Khaled Mayweather,
Speaker 3: Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, Ti Soldier Boy, Gwyneth Paltrow, Kevin Hart,
Speaker 3: Paul Pierce. Like there's a certain point where like, clearly
Speaker 3: these people get to them, They're like, Yo, here's a
Speaker 3: way to make some ritten pretty easy money. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: it's a scam. It's a sure, I mean in a way,
Speaker 3: but it's also I think the way these people they
Speaker 3: kind of rationalize, like, well, it's an investment and there's
Speaker 3: inherently risk involved, so people know what they're going into.
Speaker 3: I'm not promising people that they're gonna get wealthy. I
Speaker 3: mean I kind of am. I'm implying that they could.
Speaker 3: But that's how I go to sleep at night. Yeah,
Speaker 3: cut to the post basically implying that very thing.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, there's a there was a tweet by Maddox rules.
Speaker 2: That was Hello, I'm calling about a potential investment scam. No,
Speaker 2: it was voluntary. There's a girl who was interviewed for
Speaker 2: a web show who said you need to spit on
Speaker 2: a penis and it went viral. Anyway, she started a
Speaker 2: podcast and made a crypto coin I thought was a
Speaker 2: sound investment.
Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, yeah, in fact it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that. That's where it gets questionable.
Speaker 1: It's like, how when you explain what it actually is, right,
Speaker 1: Like for there to be like some sort of graft,
Speaker 1: there has to be like I was claiming it was
Speaker 1: this thing, but in reality it was this other thing,
Speaker 1: and what the I was claiming it was this thing
Speaker 1: still sounds so stupid that I have a hard time
Speaker 1: being like telling the difference between like what is being
Speaker 1: between the pump and the don't I guess? I guess
Speaker 1: the main thing is that they are saying I'm in
Speaker 1: this for the long haul and then selling it.
Speaker 2: Is that kind of what yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and then they're always like this is like
Speaker 3: a project. They always go like this, this is a
Speaker 3: serious crypto project. This isn't a fucking meme coin, Like
Speaker 3: we're actually trying to start something different, revolutionary, and then
Speaker 3: you get all this interest. But all the people presumably
Speaker 3: the people that are behind the coin, they're the ones
Speaker 3: that buy up a ton. It sends the lineup, and
Speaker 3: then people who are like, oh shit, this look out,
Speaker 3: look at the value increasing, Maybe I should get it
Speaker 3: on the hawk tour train. They and then these people
Speaker 3: buy coins and then inevitably they fucking get the rug
Speaker 3: pulled out from under them when the people who are
Speaker 3: running the scam sell off all their shit to make
Speaker 3: all their money and then leave everybody else, you know,
Speaker 3: holding the bag.
Speaker 2: So I can't believe that this is how I'm going
Speaker 2: to get to like point back to some other thing
Speaker 2: that I'm doing. But I talked about doing an oc
Speaker 2: rewatch show. Yeah, And Ben McKay, who plays Ryan in
Speaker 2: that show, is that guy has used his fame in
Speaker 2: the past handful of years to write a book called
Speaker 2: Easy Money Cryptocurrency Casino Capitalism in the Golden Age of
Speaker 2: Fraud and has used again sort of his position for
Speaker 2: the past handful of years to call this out of
Speaker 2: being like shelging.
Speaker 10: To be a fucking narc, to be a narc who
Speaker 10: is fucking my bag? Bro, He's got to listen to Ryan.
Speaker 10: He's peddling fud bro. It's all fud bro, fear, uncertainty, doubt.
Speaker 10: Don't listen to that shit, right, hold on for dear life, bro,
Speaker 10: because we're going to the fucking moon.
Speaker 3: We're going to the lunar landscapes that were promised to you.
Speaker 3: But yeah, talk to a thing that So it was wild.
Speaker 3: Like afterwards, everyone was so pissed. They tried to do
Speaker 3: some damage control and it just went so wrong. In
Speaker 3: this Twitter spaces there's this guy coffee Zilla, who regularly
Speaker 3: like does sort of like these investigations into like crypto scams,
Speaker 3: just generally all kinds of other rug pulls and things,
Speaker 3: and he got on there and just fucking laid into them.
Speaker 3: They had to like mute him. They're like, Okay, this
Speaker 3: guy's talking too much truth And she was like, guys,
Speaker 3: I'm tired, I'm gonna go to bed. I'll talk to
Speaker 3: you tomorrow, and then just like left this whole thing
Speaker 3: when everyone's asking for answers and it's still just a yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a it's a disaster. But it's really odd to
Speaker 3: me that people still are falling for these like it
Speaker 3: happens over and over and over again. There's not one
Speaker 3: fucking celebrity coin that has that to this day or like, yeah, bro,
Speaker 3: I'm so glad I got into fucking whatever.
Speaker 2: Is there one that's doing like super coin, Like is
Speaker 2: there one? Is there one by like whatever? You know, Like.
Speaker 3: That was more of like a slow motion rug like
Speaker 3: it it just looks like it just fell apart. A
Speaker 3: lot of people are like this is bullshit, but like,
Speaker 3: I guess, to her credit, doesn't look as bad as
Speaker 3: some of the others, like hockey stick graphs when you
Speaker 3: see just like how they completely fall off a cliff.
Speaker 3: But again, it's always done because you just use this,
Speaker 3: you use the celebrity to draw in people to give
Speaker 3: you a couple of bucks and then just take it
Speaker 3: and then be like.
Speaker 2: Just it's inherently a risk.
Speaker 1: So then seems to be whether she and the people
Speaker 1: who are like kind of involved on her end have
Speaker 1: sold share like the company that was involved that like
Speaker 1: kind of created the project. I love calling it a project,
Speaker 1: like it's like some serious thing.
Speaker 11: You're talking like them now, dude, I know that, Like
Speaker 11: whether they had sold off a bunch of the shares
Speaker 11: like before it created, like they like kept it up
Speaker 11: for twenty minutes, long enough to sell off the shares
Speaker 11: and then it created because the company is claiming like
Speaker 11: she and the other people involved like haven't sold a
Speaker 11: single share.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're broke too. That's that is the claim
Speaker 2: on their end. So like it.
Speaker 1: It seems like a fairly straightforward like we'll find out
Speaker 1: if that's true or not, Like it seems like a
Speaker 1: wild lie. Well, I just feel like we haven't sold anything.
Speaker 2: We own it all.
Speaker 1: But you know, these financial products are so you know,
Speaker 1: the legally complex and easy to like hide behind.
Speaker 3: H Yeah, I think. I mean there's definitely people. I mean,
Speaker 3: because it's all in the blockchain. A lot of people
Speaker 3: are like all these a lot of the wallets that
Speaker 3: they're seeing, like that we're selling off were being like
Speaker 3: tied to the people that were behind this. So there
Speaker 3: is a bit of a paper trail. I mean again,
Speaker 3: it's this is this is what's interesting because we're about
Speaker 3: to enter a Trump administration where Crypto has gone all
Speaker 3: in on taking away every guardrail in terms of shit
Speaker 3: like this. So I don't know if she's just kind
Speaker 3: of like, yeah, try and get me, motherfuckers. This guy's
Speaker 3: about to get inaugurated on January twentieth. They you can
Speaker 3: get your shit together by then. Maybe. I don't know.
Speaker 3: So that's that's the part where I'm a little bit
Speaker 3: like as many people like she might be you know, somebody,
Speaker 3: she might be talking to a judge soon. I'm not
Speaker 3: totally convinced because this is sort of like the momentum
Speaker 3: is going in the direction of normalizing cryptocurrency and making
Speaker 3: these scams probably something where people have no legal recourse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Iggysalia thing is interesting because she, I guess,
Speaker 1: didn't sell everything off. She's just like in it for
Speaker 1: the long haul and like still like doing all these
Speaker 1: like big parties and like attempts to get people interested
Speaker 1: in It's like, no, she just made a genuinely shitty
Speaker 1: financial product and is losing money on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's hard. It is hard.
Speaker 3: Like I said, Iggy, stick to rapping. Stick to what
Speaker 3: you're great at.
Speaker 2: You're always saying that I am. I am.
Speaker 3: Stick to rapping.
Speaker 2: Who wrote the one good one for her? Was it?
Speaker 2: The game? There was?
Speaker 1: So there are there are allegations that somebody was writing
Speaker 1: for her. I was like, that is so mean to
Speaker 1: that rapper whoever.
Speaker 2: Wrote that for her?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I remember she was always coming around with TI.
Speaker 3: He was kind of putting her on. I think that's
Speaker 3: what was She's yeah, oh yeah, that's probably what it was,
Speaker 3: because everyone's like, what the fuck, Why are you giving
Speaker 3: this Australian person all this credit?
Speaker 2: Why is she talking like that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: But all right.
Speaker 1: Jay Z has been accused keeping it in the world
Speaker 1: of Greatest Rappers of all time. Jay Z has been
Speaker 1: accused of drugging and sexually assaulting a thirteen year old
Speaker 1: girl at a post VMA's house party in the year
Speaker 1: two thousand. The super was originally filed in October against Diddy,
Speaker 1: but now it has been refiled to list mister Carter
Speaker 1: as a defendant. And then jay Z responded by firing
Speaker 1: off a statement through his entertainment company's Twitter account that
Speaker 1: literally begins with him accusing the Jane Doe and her
Speaker 1: lawyer of trying to blackmail him, and then it ends
Speaker 1: telling them that they won't get one red penny in
Speaker 1: a very like Scrooge mcdust coated like, yeah, a statement
Speaker 1: that I don't know, I don't know, we don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's real anymore online.
Speaker 2: And the only thing I've seen about this was someone
Speaker 2: highlighting the Instagram story about this in which Beyonce's mother
Speaker 2: liked it. Is that true? Do we know if that's true?
Speaker 2: Do you know? Oh his mom liked this Instagram story
Speaker 2: because I don't know. I see stuff now and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what's real anymore. We cannot verify that
Speaker 2: at that. You can't. You don't know. You don't just
Speaker 2: have that in your head. Jack. We don't know what
Speaker 2: beyond his monster.
Speaker 1: Our team is looking into it, thank you, But we
Speaker 1: actually have you guys be able to guy that Joe
Speaker 1: Rugan has he who yeah, checks him and proves that
Speaker 1: he's wrong ninety percent of the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kim, you what Tina.
Speaker 3: Knowles up to?
Speaker 7: Ah?
Speaker 3: No, all right, I was wrong about that, My bad,
Speaker 3: All right, So I guess, So I guess Joe Biden
Speaker 3: wasn't AI during the State of the I got some bad, dude.
Speaker 1: But people saw his wristwatch and you could actually tell
Speaker 1: that his wristwatch it was a different time. So all right,
Speaker 1: well they got yah, fine, they got me that.
Speaker 3: I mean that that defense does not look that does
Speaker 3: not look good at all, Like to immediately come out
Speaker 3: and be like they're blackmailing me and then use some
Speaker 3: fucking like old timey prospector language like what the fuck
Speaker 3: is that we won't get one red penny out of me?
Speaker 3: I swear, Uh, you sound like a villain Sean Carter
Speaker 3: and I don't know, like when you look at just
Speaker 3: the people he's around, I'm like, jay Z bro, you
Speaker 3: did an album with r Kelly, Okay, not guilty. I
Speaker 3: did a song guilty until proven innocent, And I'm like, boy,
Speaker 3: this is this is very very very Uh.
Speaker 2: There wasn't one ditty party that he was alleged to
Speaker 2: have attended. Yeah, so, oh you can look into when
Speaker 2: he and Beyonce started dating. There's no you know, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's been definitive evidence of any wrongdoing there,
Speaker 2: but there are some allegations looking into Yeah. Yeah that
Speaker 2: the defense again the like the the the defense of
Speaker 2: going like straight after this person doesn't look good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it does seem to be.
Speaker 1: Like Forbes was saying that it's part of the pr.
Speaker 2: Strategy that like they always do, there's a word for that.
Speaker 1: There's no nonsense denial attacking the ambulance chaser lawyer and
Speaker 1: then shifting the narrative to turn himself into the victim.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and it worked. We've seen this work
Speaker 2: for people like Kevin Spacey and oh wait, that doesn't
Speaker 2: seem to work. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like the democratic strategists, who it takes you
Speaker 1: a couple decades of repeatedly failing over and over to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, this doesn't work.
Speaker 2: You know. Oh, Darvo's the name the word that I
Speaker 2: was looking for. Darvo. Yeah, I'm sorry, let me look
Speaker 2: up that so I don't screw it up. But this
Speaker 2: is a very popular So yeah, darvo is a reaction
Speaker 2: that perpetrators are wrongdoing, such as sexual offenders may display
Speaker 2: in response. It means deny, attack, reverse victim and offender.
Speaker 3: Oh that's exactly right, exactly that damn.
Speaker 2: That's yeah. There are a lot of states that track
Speaker 2: actually called darvo. There are a lot of states that actually, uh,
Speaker 2: not a lot, but there are some states that I
Speaker 2: believe that have like darvo protections because like often what
Speaker 2: people will do is they'll counter suit. Yeah, and and
Speaker 2: so yeah, that was that was the word I was
Speaker 2: looking for. Thanks for bearing with me. I do have
Speaker 2: the brain of a forty one year old weed smoker.
Speaker 2: Oh nice, I have forty four year old non weed smoker.
Speaker 2: And it is broken.
Speaker 3: It's worse than your It's really bad.
Speaker 2: Then he starts smoking weed.
Speaker 3: Don't no, it's.
Speaker 1: Not no, no no no no, don't worry, don't go down.
Speaker 1: Have a lot of clarity about my substance. There's one thing,
Speaker 1: probably not a good idea. I don't need to send
Speaker 1: more questions hurtling through my brain that I can't answer
Speaker 1: immediately about in my existence.
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, Alex Steed, what a pleasure having you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: As always? Oh is a delight. Thank you? Where can
Speaker 2: people find you? Follow you all that good stuff. I'm
Speaker 2: more on Blue Sky these days, even though I talked
Speaker 2: all about Twitter and stuff. Alex Steed and I have
Speaker 2: this podcast you are good at Feelings podcast about movies.
Speaker 2: I have the o C Again, which is an O
Speaker 2: C and Early Aughts revisitation show. And then there is
Speaker 2: this record label High Culture where we just released a
Speaker 2: record by Carolyn Kendrick called Each Machine. And if you
Speaker 2: are in Pasadena, there's a show on December fifteenth at
Speaker 2: Healing Force of the Universe Records. Oh that's great. Universe. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that place is rad if you guys don't know it
Speaker 2: as record stores go. It opened a year ago and
Speaker 2: they have events almost every night now, and it's all
Speaker 2: every night you're in for retreat, So check them out.
Speaker 2: They're really great. Oh very quickly. I went to Pasadena
Speaker 2: to go see that movie the other day and I
Speaker 2: saw this kid band called Degeneration. They were like fifteen
Speaker 2: through twenty one, playing like Nirvana and food Fighter songs
Speaker 2: in front of the H and M. And they shout
Speaker 2: out to Degeneration. They ripped so hard, ripped, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: There was a girl in a let I think she
Speaker 2: was like fifteen. It was hilarious, hilarious in a funny way,
Speaker 2: but it was like hilarious that it was happening at
Speaker 2: the H and M. I left the H and M.
Speaker 1: The band that rips so hard. You see them in
Speaker 1: front of an H and M and you're like, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Oh I thought you were going to compliment H and M.
Speaker 1: That's who I would have given the and I just
Speaker 1: have to shout out, H and M a great taste
Speaker 1: and young.
Speaker 2: I like a little Spandex in my clothes, and I
Speaker 2: like the fall apart three wears in.
Speaker 3: That's exactly Oh wow, but that that Hawke to a
Speaker 3: button up you got looks fair.
Speaker 1: That one lasts for twenty minutes before craters.
Speaker 3: It's a rug pull of a shirt. You go out
Speaker 3: there naked, Alex.
Speaker 2: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I saw the movie The Order twice in a row.
Speaker 2: I saw it two days in a row. I saw
Speaker 2: it on Saturday, and then I saw it on Sunday.
Speaker 2: I loved it so much. Police Procedural starring Jude Law,
Speaker 2: in which they try to take down white supremacist group
Speaker 2: in the in the nineteen eighties, and that group was
Speaker 2: influenced by the Turner Diaries, the text that went on
Speaker 2: to later inspire in part January sixth, So Timothy McVay
Speaker 2: and Timothy McVay, of course, so deeply important but also
Speaker 2: highly entertaining. As movies like that go. It's like heat
Speaker 2: if the bad guys were white supremacists that you wanted
Speaker 2: to see burn in a building.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, all right, that sounds good, and that's in theaters.
Speaker 2: Mark Marin was in it for for three minutes as Allenberg,
Speaker 2: who was assassin a Jewish dj who who was assassinated
Speaker 2: unfortunately by and I was in Pasadena, which is like
Speaker 2: Mark Maron territory, and every cluster of people had one
Speaker 2: person who whispered to the rest of the cluster. That's
Speaker 2: Mark Maren. So anyway, it's it was it was great.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 1: Miles, where can people find you as their working.
Speaker 2: Media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, there's at miles of gray everywhere. Just look
Speaker 3: for me there. Uh, and and Blue Sky even Uh.
Speaker 3: You can also find Jack and I on the basketball
Speaker 3: podcast Miles and Jack Costs. You can find my God,
Speaker 3: the fucking Lakers are so fucking bad. I can't even
Speaker 3: fucking handle it.
Speaker 2: It's fuck.
Speaker 3: Dartym now had a better record than JJ at this point.
Speaker 3: Oh what happened anyway?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 3: And then also catch me talking about ninety dance a
Speaker 3: tweet I like us from at from Jess Dweck at
Speaker 3: the DWK tweeted this means there's a waluig Mangi private
Speaker 3: equity And that's again the Internet. The Internet, it's gotta
Speaker 3: be freaking out billionaires.
Speaker 2: They're like, they like, it's all jokes about.
Speaker 3: Using Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, So Amazon and Blackrock just posted like head of
Speaker 1: security position. Job openings, Yeah, yeah, job openings for like
Speaker 1: leading a team of heavily armed robots. Yeah, let's see
Speaker 1: a tweet I've been enjoying one dozen rats in a
Speaker 1: pear tree. At Panasonic d X four or five four
Speaker 1: we did Seinfeld episode where George has the same jacket
Speaker 1: as the guy who shot the CEO and vaguely alludes
Speaker 1: to being him to pick up women.
Speaker 2: The one the one tweet. One tweet that really struck
Speaker 2: me while I was out and about yesterday's shopping and
Speaker 2: seeing all the Christmas stuff was this, I'm so sorry
Speaker 2: for the screen name. Milky White Tits tweeted, I've a
Speaker 2: Milky White Twists before gid jingle horse pick up your feet.
Speaker 2: Sounds like something a homophobic Jim teacher would say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have that too, But I feel like I
Speaker 1: heard that tweet like lat I hear that, and I
Speaker 1: didn't truly Milky White Tits of stealing that. They must
Speaker 1: be right, but that is absolutely that.
Speaker 2: Line continues to amaze.
Speaker 1: It really is something that your Jim teacher would yell
Speaker 1: at you while you're doing laps. Anyways, you can find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien and on Blue
Speaker 1: Sky at jack ob the Number one. There's also somebody
Speaker 1: on there, jack ob Wan pretending to be me.
Speaker 2: So that's fun.
Speaker 1: Tweeting writing a lot more than I do, so hopefully
Speaker 1: I don't do anything terrible. You can find us on
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Speaker 1: our footnote. We link off to the information that we
Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that.
Speaker 2: We think you might enjoy. We also link off to
Speaker 2: all that stuff in the show notes.
Speaker 1: At Miles Yes, Hey, Miles, Hey Miles, is there a
Speaker 1: song you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, Yes Yes, and and an accompanying video The
Speaker 3: Ezra Collective. They are a really fantastic like new jazz
Speaker 3: group from the UK. If you like Tom Mish or
Speaker 3: like Yusuf Days, those guys you're definitely gonna like. They're
Speaker 3: fucking fantastic. This is a track called N twenty nine
Speaker 3: to Berlin and this is the Colors Show version I
Speaker 3: typically see. I love the Color Show. It's a great
Speaker 3: YouTube channel, or you can see really good live performances.
Speaker 3: This one is fantastic. I mean the album version is
Speaker 3: cool too, but watching it with the video is really awesome.
Speaker 3: So end twenty nine to Berlin by Ezra Collective.
Speaker 1: All right, well, we will link off to that in
Speaker 1: the footnotes.
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Speaker 3: Bye bye,