Speaker 1: Hello the Internet end. Welcome to season to episode three
Speaker 1: of Daily Like Guys production of I Heart Radio. This
Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep path into
Speaker 1: America's your consciousness. It is Thursday, February. I don't need
Speaker 1: to tell you all what that means. It's toast day
Speaker 1: and chili day. Yeah, also that so it gets your
Speaker 1: combine your toast and chili. I guess I love a
Speaker 1: little Texas toast and my chilney, which is my vocal warmup. Also,
Speaker 1: will we say buckle warm up, vocal warm up? Texas
Speaker 1: toast in my children, is Texas toast just garlic bread
Speaker 1: on white bread. Yes, It's just garlic bread crutons basically, right,
Speaker 1: because that's what I feel like whenever you see it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it looks like white bread, like thick
Speaker 1: as white bread was just like the garlic butter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Texas toast is just yeah, it's garlic bread,
Speaker 1: but like with a Texas white bread spin on it.
Speaker 1: And then I like the Texas Toast crewtons because I think,
Speaker 1: where do you get that? I don't know, no clue.
Speaker 1: I just want to usually Ralphs or something. I guess
Speaker 1: Kroger for the non l a residence. Oh yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know the best garlic bread l a smoke house
Speaker 1: in Burbank? Oh really? Oh yeah, have you been there?
Speaker 1: Oh man? The smoke house is like it's right across
Speaker 1: the street from Warner Brothers. And the interior is like
Speaker 1: not changed since like the sixties, and they people like
Speaker 1: they've it's been in a few different shooting like we
Speaker 1: use the shooting location. But when you go in there,
Speaker 1: the vibe is real interesting because they have bands that play.
Speaker 1: There's sometimes it's weird Elvis impersonator, but the garlic bread
Speaker 1: like the impersonator. I don't know. I've never heard of
Speaker 1: a weird Elvis in person ever. Pretty pretty middle all right, Well,
Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien, a k who drank the
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Speaker 1: Suspects moment where I found I realized those those are
Speaker 1: the same person fucking blew my mind. Man. Anyways, I'm
Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
Speaker 1: Mr Miles Yes, the founder of Kobayashi Seramics Company, Hits
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Speaker 1: Appreciate it aful well. Miles were thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: by one of our favorite guests that comes on t
Speaker 1: d Z, very funny comedian from Good Mythical Morning and
Speaker 1: the Star Wars Show. He's the co creator of news
Speaker 1: Broke and the host of the podcast Frodcast and Pod
Speaker 1: Yourself a Gun. Please welcome the very funny, the very
Speaker 1: spread out man, spread the funk out. Uh. It's Matt
Speaker 1: through the ditches and burn through the witches and slam
Speaker 1: in the back of my Matt leaves car. What's up?
Speaker 1: I don't own a Dragula, but I do own a
Speaker 1: two thousand six Honda Civic. Hell yeah what it worked
Speaker 1: with Corolla in the back of mob Yeah yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know it's no no notes from the King of
Speaker 1: Parody songs with just like low energy punchline at the end,
Speaker 1: just like hide yourself a gun. That's what I do. Man,
Speaker 1: like this closure. Yeah. I don't know if we'll even
Speaker 1: put this on on the podcast. But so Jack and
Speaker 1: I were working on a basketball podcast and there was
Speaker 1: a title that we really loved and we couldn't stop
Speaker 1: saying it, like the pod Yourself a Gun intro And
Speaker 1: we're like, dude, do we like hit up Matt and
Speaker 1: just be like, hey man, we really funk with the
Speaker 1: construction of the got rejected, Got rejected? Oh damn, dude,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, it was Mama, there goes that podcast. I
Speaker 1: love a good just saying podcast randomly in a in
Speaker 1: a title bit. So yeah, I mean you're the inventor.
Speaker 1: You're the creator, of course, the first guy to ever
Speaker 1: do it, you know, me and yourself and the pod
Speaker 1: Save America guys. You know, wait, you're not from Positive America.
Speaker 1: I thought, no, No, that's a different that's a different podcast,
Speaker 1: uh America. I mean I was the original. I was
Speaker 1: actually the third John. They just called me John for
Speaker 1: some reason. It just that's the that's just the custom.
Speaker 1: When you go yeah, when you go on that show
Speaker 1: they change your name to John. And I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll do it. But then, you know, I
Speaker 1: called like Hillary Clinton a wench and then they kicked
Speaker 1: me off, and I know I shouldn't used the word
Speaker 1: when not in this house, I know. Yeah. It's like
Speaker 1: when Warren is hiring someone for SNL, I call him
Speaker 1: Warren because you were very close. Yeah, you guys are close. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when he's hiring for someone for us. And now he
Speaker 1: asked them how they are with wigs when someone's coming
Speaker 1: on Pots of America. They're like, how are you with
Speaker 1: changing your name to John? And I'm like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll do whatever to uh, you know,
Speaker 1: to do podcasting pretty much, I'll do whatever you guys need.
Speaker 1: You would do anything for podcasts. I would do anything.
Speaker 1: We'd love to give him his own show. He just
Speaker 1: won't change his name from Matt to John. That's the
Speaker 1: only thing holding the thing. Oh that's too bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that would have made my career
Speaker 1: has been there's too many mats. So I actually, John
Speaker 1: leeb that sounds good. I'll do it. Yeah. That would
Speaker 1: get a vote blue, no matter who backed at Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: I mean I told them I would get a vote blue,
Speaker 1: like unless they're only blue in name, but really they're red.
Speaker 1: And they were like, that's too long. You won't fit
Speaker 1: on your back. And I was like, but like if
Speaker 1: side by side, their policies basically look like a like
Speaker 1: a centrist Republican. I'm then a little conflicted and want
Speaker 1: to reserve my right to not be so rigid with
Speaker 1: how I vote. And yeah, and at that point, the
Speaker 1: tattoo has reached your taint and well, yeah, well, during
Speaker 1: while I was explaining that to them, the s C
Speaker 1: I a put a bag over my head and they
Speaker 1: drove me back home, and I was like a ship.
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't make the audition for Pod Save America.
Speaker 1: All right, Matt, we're going to get to know you
Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna
Speaker 1: tell our listeners a couple of the things that we're
Speaker 1: talking about today. We're gonna talk about the mass shooter
Speaker 1: in Portland that was undercovered, misrepresented early on in the
Speaker 1: reporting from the mainstream media. I didn't even know that happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a thing that they don't really want to I
Speaker 1: think only like CNN type news places are only now
Speaker 1: today beginning to have like full on reporting about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So anyways, we're gonna talk about that. We are going
Speaker 1: to talk about the fact that you had the distinct
Speaker 1: privilege of watching the first release from Ben Shapiro's film
Speaker 1: production company, filmed by the name of shut In. I
Speaker 1: just I want to know what, what is it like?
Speaker 1: It's it's unlike any experience I've ever experienced when it
Speaker 1: comes to a movie watching. Yeah, I mean, and you
Speaker 1: have been radicalized, oh completely, yes, all that plenty more.
Speaker 1: Before we get to any of that, ship, Matt, we
Speaker 1: do like to ask Uric, guess what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history? Yeah, my most recent search history was, um,
Speaker 1: four Big Guys and they bust on My Eyes. Now,
Speaker 1: so let me explain what so that. That's a song
Speaker 1: that I heard at one point and I was trying
Speaker 1: to find out what the name of it was so
Speaker 1: I could so I could make a little content and uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: the song is called four Big Guys, and uh it
Speaker 1: was it's just a song about well, it's a song
Speaker 1: about people busting on each other's eyes and having sex,
Speaker 1: and uh I spliced it into a video of did
Speaker 1: you guys see the sixty minutes profile? I'm glad you
Speaker 1: brought this up of Havana syndrome. So the sixty minutes
Speaker 1: to the story on havannas enter. This past weekend, a
Speaker 1: lot of people have been sharing this clip around where
Speaker 1: the it's very strange. We has, you know, sixty minutes
Speaker 1: has an elderly viewing audience, and so they are like,
Speaker 1: and he somebody got a recording of the noise that
Speaker 1: was causing the syndrome. We're about to play it for you,
Speaker 1: but just so you know, the noise will not give
Speaker 1: you havana syndrome, and then they will hurt you. They
Speaker 1: play it. It's the crickets that we've heard. Yes, it
Speaker 1: is buzzing cicadas. Yes, but you had a different take
Speaker 1: on it. Yeah. I spliced it with this song called
Speaker 1: four Big Guys and um, so there's the sixty minutes
Speaker 1: build up, letting you know this the sounds, do not worry.
Speaker 1: The sound will not hurt you. It is like the
Speaker 1: sound of a gun. It is not the sound that
Speaker 1: does the injury. Yeah, here's what he recorded, and he's
Speaker 1: like four Big guys and they bust on my eyes,
Speaker 1: they my ass just like apple pies. And then uh,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's a really great song. Can I suggest
Speaker 1: that that everyone? Um, you know, so it's a great song.
Speaker 1: At one point a guy's like, uh, he's Duncan his
Speaker 1: balls in my booty, like he's Scottie Pippen, which is like,
Speaker 1: I think, a nice shout out to Scottie Pippen. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't see that a lot in rap music these days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not really given praise to Scottie Pippen like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like people forget that he was He wasn't
Speaker 1: just the second best player on the Bulls, he was
Speaker 1: the second best player probably in the league at the time.
Speaker 1: So insertions. Yes, he's a king of Duncan Duncan and
Speaker 1: who's the artist that does four big guys? Okay, so
Speaker 1: it's is from the only where. The place where I
Speaker 1: got it was an album on Spotify called m v
Speaker 1: P Meme Music, So I don't know it has been purchased.
Speaker 1: I assume so it's been purchased by a consortium, which
Speaker 1: is too bad because I'd really like to know the
Speaker 1: artists because they're very good. I mean, they spit hot
Speaker 1: fire sounds great. Yeah, it's a great song. So you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by the way, I flew United back to Florida for
Speaker 1: my dad, see, and United has the direct TV things,
Speaker 1: So I got to watch the Dunk Contest again, which
Speaker 1: I had watched this ship out because like my like
Speaker 1: one of the three vhs is I had in my
Speaker 1: house when I was a kid, was dazzling dunks and
Speaker 1: basketball bloopers, and I was like sort of the climax
Speaker 1: of it. But I'd like forgotten how fucking cool some
Speaker 1: of the dunks are in that contest. Was it Moses
Speaker 1: Malone in that one? No, No, it's Jordan's Dominique. It's
Speaker 1: in Chicago, so like they really want Jordan to win.
Speaker 1: Dominique is doing wild ship, but Jordan's like, does one
Speaker 1: dunk that I had totally forgotten where he's like his
Speaker 1: cheek like brushes the rim. It's fucking wild. People forget Also,
Speaker 1: how good Dominic Wilkins was Like that dude was Dominic Wilkins. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well I'm sorry Dominique, excuse me on alright, alright, listen
Speaker 1: that Dominick Watkins guy, I call him Dominic Alright, he's
Speaker 1: domb m Yeah, too muchos everyone look dom wilkies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? Overrated planning a wedding?
Speaker 1: Weddings in general, like h it is an incredibly expensive
Speaker 1: party that the bride and groom don't get to enjoy.
Speaker 1: And to be honest, I'm not even sure who gets
Speaker 1: to enjoy it because most weddings I go to, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm here for the food and to see a couple
Speaker 1: of friends. But this feels very expensive and for no one.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say weddings. I'm I'm currently getting married
Speaker 1: to uh your previous guest Francesco Fiorentini, and uh we
Speaker 1: are just in the midst of, you know, trying to
Speaker 1: line up all of our vendors and you know, our
Speaker 1: guest lists and all that stuff, and uh, everyone just
Speaker 1: wants to just everyone wants to charge you too much
Speaker 1: for everything. This bullshit. Why do they charge you more
Speaker 1: if you're in love? That's the thing I cannot stand
Speaker 1: about the wedding industry. It's like it's so evil. They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you want to rent a fork, Normally that sixties cents
Speaker 1: to rent the fork. Oh wait, it's gonna go in
Speaker 1: the mount and I'm out of mouth at a wedding,
Speaker 1: Oh it's three dollars now, yeah, immediately they just like
Speaker 1: all the prices go up because everything is going to
Speaker 1: be touched with love, you know, so they're like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to get the good forks,
Speaker 1: it's gonna cost you ten dollars. Fu. You know it's
Speaker 1: funny when uh I because you know, I just got
Speaker 1: married a couple of weeks ago. On the wedding thank
Speaker 1: you man, we I was I was trying to find
Speaker 1: every single way to to like hack around it, to
Speaker 1: the point where I asked, you know, my now wife,
Speaker 1: her majesty, I said, what if we said we were
Speaker 1: having a business merger at a hotel and we kind
Speaker 1: of kept it fun and said everyone had to say
Speaker 1: they were there for the business merger, and like we
Speaker 1: would so that way, like it's just a catered meal,
Speaker 1: it's just the same banquet things because it's just a meeting,
Speaker 1: it's not a wedding. And then yeah, we're gonna dance outside.
Speaker 1: But like just see how corporate events, yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: There's DJs, there's you know. Yeah, Like at this point,
Speaker 1: I have now started referring to it just as an event.
Speaker 1: So like the ice cream people, I was like, we
Speaker 1: are going to have an eighty percent event in June.
Speaker 1: How much does it cost for you to do that?
Speaker 1: And they were like you could tell that they were
Speaker 1: going like okay, yeah, but like what kind of event
Speaker 1: is it? Where anniversary And I'm just saying anniversary party.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think they I feel like they'll
Speaker 1: charge you if love in there. I'm saying you'd be surprised,
Speaker 1: you'd be surprised. Oh man, well I funked up and
Speaker 1: said wedding most of the time. And now it's just
Speaker 1: the ice cream people are going to be relatively cheaper.
Speaker 1: But I'm worried they're gonna show up and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is a wedding, let's cost double now. And then yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: just like I thought. And then they let all the
Speaker 1: ice cream melt. Yeah. But yeah, So, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: planning a wedding is it's just uh, it's hard, dude.
Speaker 1: I just want to be in love. Yeah, why can't
Speaker 1: I just be in love? This piece of advice I
Speaker 1: got was like right before the wedding was someone said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: make sure you act like a guest at your wedding.
Speaker 1: Don't act like a host, because it's really easy to
Speaker 1: get in host mindset and like you're saying, it's like
Speaker 1: who this fucking thing for? Like if you can kind
Speaker 1: of resolutely say like, when the day comes, obviously you
Speaker 1: gotta have your ship together to make you know, make things.
Speaker 1: Everything is happening, we're in the plan. But when the
Speaker 1: day comes, just be a fucking guest because you got
Speaker 1: to enjoy the funk out of that day. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: me being a guest means just eating alone and going
Speaker 1: to the bathroom for too long. So I think my
Speaker 1: wife will be mad at that. Yeah. Yeah. The first
Speaker 1: dance music at Last shows that like starts playing and
Speaker 1: Frinjessica's just waiting for me, and I'm like, I'm taking
Speaker 1: a ship on the next dance, like dude, dude, daddy daughter,
Speaker 1: dance dad daughter. Yeah, this is gonna be a few minutes,
Speaker 1: so maybe do mommy daughter too. Knocking both out? What
Speaker 1: is something you think is underrated? Bro? You know what's
Speaker 1: underrated my Instagram? Uh at Matt Leap jokes. Here's the thing, guys,
Speaker 1: I've realized that in spending the last i don't know,
Speaker 1: eight years trying to get my Twitter following up. That
Speaker 1: Instagram is passed me by and because of that, my
Speaker 1: career is real stagnant. So what I need is number one,
Speaker 1: if anyone out there works at Instagram, hook with the
Speaker 1: blue check mark, dude, this time, I promise I won't
Speaker 1: lose it like I did with my Twitter blue check mark.
Speaker 1: And then also just the Twitter. No, I pretended to
Speaker 1: be the New York Times and I abused my my
Speaker 1: blue check mark and they won't give it back. And
Speaker 1: uh yeah, So, like you know, my Instagram is great.
Speaker 1: I got videos of me doing sopranos parody songs that
Speaker 1: at least you guys will like by you guys, I
Speaker 1: mean Jack and Miles, and uh you know, and I
Speaker 1: got amazing content like four big guys busting on eyes
Speaker 1: during the sixteen minutes things. So and occasionally there's a
Speaker 1: picture of my beautiful wife. So it is that's that's
Speaker 1: super underrated. And uh I think at Matt Leap jokes,
Speaker 1: it's very good. Go follow now, follow it please please? Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right, By the way, did you watch the whole
Speaker 1: sixty minutes thing or just enough to get the inspired?
Speaker 1: Get get inspired? I watched no I didn't. I just
Speaker 1: watched clips of it, and I'm dubious about the whole thing.
Speaker 1: So like the idea of watching the entire sixty minutes
Speaker 1: thing just to me seemed like I would just be
Speaker 1: making fun of it the whole time. And and part
Speaker 1: of me does feel like a little bit bad because
Speaker 1: I'm sure some of these people, like truly believe that
Speaker 1: something bad has happened to them. And and I, you know,
Speaker 1: I try to limit the amount of time I spend
Speaker 1: in my life just yelling at the TV and calling
Speaker 1: people liars whomember. Yeah, but I don't believe. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. It all sounds fake, and I, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to. So you're saying that you don't
Speaker 1: even think people are having experiencing symptoms at all, or
Speaker 1: you I believe there are people who are. I believe
Speaker 1: there are people who are legitimately experiencing some sort of
Speaker 1: symptoms of something right right right, but death right exactly,
Speaker 1: This microwave death beam that exists is sounds like uh C,
Speaker 1: I A up And I don't believe it. But you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's my bias, that's where that's where my biases.
Speaker 1: So that's that based off of a history of CIA
Speaker 1: ops that were No, no, no, this is just one
Speaker 1: time where I've decided that I don't believe the CIA.
Speaker 1: Every other time they've been right and doing good things, right,
Speaker 1: but no, I just decided this is the one I'm
Speaker 1: not going to believe. Uh No, Yeah, the CIA. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we all stand the CIA. Well, they're inclusive, they believe
Speaker 1: in gay rights. Sorry and uh and for that, I
Speaker 1: commend them and wish to join. Yeah. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: any either. I'm gonna I'll watch it and talk about
Speaker 1: it on a future episode. At the point, I'm very excited.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back and talk about Portland's And we're back, And a
Speaker 1: forty three year old man in Portland opened fire on
Speaker 1: a group of unarmed protesters that were marching a memory
Speaker 1: of a mare lock. And you know, one woman, a
Speaker 1: six year old who volunteers to do traffic control to
Speaker 1: protect fellow protesters, was killed. Multiple others were wounded. One
Speaker 1: is paralyzed from being shot in the neck. And then,
Speaker 1: you know, after the victims were screaming for help, another
Speaker 1: person at a nearby part of the protest came over,
Speaker 1: was lawfully carrying a gun and shot back at the
Speaker 1: mass shooter and wounded him, and that's what stopped the
Speaker 1: mass shooting. So it seems like kind of a big story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds like some right wing terror if I've ever
Speaker 1: heard of it. You know, if you again, if you're
Speaker 1: not on Twitter or more more specific like leftist Twitter,
Speaker 1: felt like you were completely uh, you would have not
Speaker 1: heard anything about this, you know, like there was like
Speaker 1: a headline of like some kind of shooting happening in Portland,
Speaker 1: and then that was about it. And then if you
Speaker 1: were solely relying on like local media and police reporting,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't know what the funk happened. Like the way
Speaker 1: the early reports, the way they were awarded, it sounded
Speaker 1: like they're like, yeah, man, it's like this resident gotten
Speaker 1: a dispute with like armed protesters and homeowner. Right they
Speaker 1: called homeowner to had like a layer of like he's
Speaker 1: just property base in his private property exactly. Yet it
Speaker 1: was a guy who was renting an apartment who was
Speaker 1: essentially not just some guy who was just you know,
Speaker 1: had enough of people just being loud in the park
Speaker 1: across the street. No, as like his roommate described him, said,
Speaker 1: you know, over the years, he's gotten more and more radicalized.
Speaker 1: Like it has started at the end of Obama's presidency
Speaker 1: and he started getting angrier and angrier. We would I
Speaker 1: would hear him yell like racial slurs and like like
Speaker 1: you know, misogynistic things from his room, just shouting or
Speaker 1: talking about how he wanted to shoot Kamis or Antifa
Speaker 1: and things like that, and even he was also part
Speaker 1: of the furry community, but he was more on the
Speaker 1: fast end of the furry spectrum. I'm sorry, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a fashion end of the furry spectrum that exists, well,
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of the more problem like
Speaker 1: you know, prominent furries that you hear that are involved
Speaker 1: in social justice are like anti fascist, anti racist, and
Speaker 1: they're absolutely like they're trying to purge people from the
Speaker 1: community because it's like it's not inclusive, like we're not
Speaker 1: working with this. And this guy was already going head
Speaker 1: to head even within the furry community. So like he
Speaker 1: had this reputation from having these conflicts becoming increasingly radicalized,
Speaker 1: and eventually it boiled over. It was just it went
Speaker 1: from being watching a lot of YouTube videos too now
Speaker 1: acting out his like violent fantasies in real life, and
Speaker 1: but initial reports kept it as sort of like, hey man,
Speaker 1: it sounds like some something weird happened at one of
Speaker 1: those protests when people started arguing, rather than what happened
Speaker 1: was this guy came up to this group of like
Speaker 1: traffic control volunteers who were all women and completely removed
Speaker 1: from like the main protest targeted these this group of
Speaker 1: people started yelling all kinds of wild shit, and when
Speaker 1: someone tried to de escalate, he just opened fire. Yea,
Speaker 1: and he's the right way free. I think like a
Speaker 1: lot of it is, you know, and this is just
Speaker 1: complete speculation, but like everything that's going on in Portland,
Speaker 1: or has been going on in Portland, seems to be
Speaker 1: completely only covered by right wing media. The right wing
Speaker 1: media is the only place where you get to see,
Speaker 1: you know, every other week you get to see them
Speaker 1: saying like Antifa has taken over Portland's and the second that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, all of this reporting culminates in the actual
Speaker 1: death of people by the hands of someone who's consumes
Speaker 1: their media, they're like, oh, well, we can't really, we
Speaker 1: can't really, this doesn't fit our narrative. You know, it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be Antifa who is killing everyone or you know,
Speaker 1: trying to trying to force old ladies to do crt.
Speaker 1: You know, so it's like this, uh, you know, this
Speaker 1: just doesn't fit the narrative. So who would cover it?
Speaker 1: And the question is why the mainstream media wouldn't cover
Speaker 1: this either, I think because they're not maybe not interested
Speaker 1: in just taking the you know, like the first sort
Speaker 1: of comments from the police described it as a confrontation
Speaker 1: between an armed resident and armed protesters. Yeah, so even now,
Speaker 1: that's how it's being reported that, like, like after an
Speaker 1: initial conflict, Smith reportedly pulled out a handgun and shot
Speaker 1: five people. Someone shot back at Smith, police said, hitting
Speaker 1: him nearest hip. So it does. Yeah, it sounds like
Speaker 1: it's fucking shootout at the Okay Corral instead of him
Speaker 1: somebody opening fire on a group of unarmed protesters, people
Speaker 1: who were peacefully protesting. He shot the woman, he killed,
Speaker 1: a six year old woman, he shot at close range
Speaker 1: in the head, Like yeah, yeah, and you know, at
Speaker 1: first they're like, you know, then now they're looking for
Speaker 1: the armed protester who fired back. Once the police saw
Speaker 1: the you know, one of the protesters who was in
Speaker 1: the group that was you know, fired on, they had
Speaker 1: a go pro on their helmet. Once the police saw
Speaker 1: the go pro footage, they were like, oh, yeah, we
Speaker 1: have like this guy completely was acting in self defense,
Speaker 1: Like this person just came at these people and started shooting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's a whole other dimension of the story that's
Speaker 1: completely missing to your point, Like whether it's right wing
Speaker 1: media or just general corporate media, they're like, you know,
Speaker 1: right wing media doesn't fit their narrative of like Antifa
Speaker 1: being the like uber violent aggressors that they need them
Speaker 1: to be in their like sort of manufactured worldview, whereas
Speaker 1: corporate media they're not interested in it because they're also
Speaker 1: custodians of like white supremacy. And to to be like
Speaker 1: full throw, to be like this is a right wing
Speaker 1: you know, terror attack, that's too much. You know, they're
Speaker 1: they're unwilling to actually go there when every single person
Speaker 1: who was at the event will just describe it as such.
Speaker 1: And you know, and clearly the video was clear enough
Speaker 1: to the police that they had no interest in charging
Speaker 1: or doing anything with the person who was defending these people. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder how much of the mainstream media is resistant
Speaker 1: is tied to the backlash on the right, like whether
Speaker 1: I think the right and you know, Tucker Carlson having
Speaker 1: that documentary claiming that like this is all Trump does.
Speaker 1: Like that, I think that that has had an effect
Speaker 1: for sure. I think so too, because it explains kind
Speaker 1: of a general media blackout when it comes to just
Speaker 1: things that happened in the Pacific Northwest that are like
Speaker 1: so egregious that should be a big deal, just aren't.
Speaker 1: Like the you know, Trump sanctioning the execution of that
Speaker 1: one guy that he liked shot or he had like
Speaker 1: shot and killed a policeman or something like that. He
Speaker 1: was like a left wing protester um, which is like,
Speaker 1: obviously that's murder. You should be arrested. But rather than
Speaker 1: arresting him, he was just executed by a group of
Speaker 1: like federally deputized policeman. Do you guys remember the story,
Speaker 1: you guys? Was this? I think it was it was
Speaker 1: either it was I think it was Oregon or Washington.
Speaker 1: It was Pacific Northwest. But in general, like the the
Speaker 1: right wing media's affect on I think the rest of
Speaker 1: the corporate media with regards to like Portland and the
Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest and all the like the actions that have happened,
Speaker 1: like the protests and and whatnot and like occupations. They
Speaker 1: look at that and they go like, well, those guys
Speaker 1: are the far left, so you know sometimes, like I
Speaker 1: personally think that they look at that and they kind
Speaker 1: of agree with the right wing take. I think, so
Speaker 1: without actually saying like that they agree with it. I think, well,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure from their perspective too, they're they're saying
Speaker 1: they're going too far in their pursuit of justice, right exactly,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I think that's where
Speaker 1: it makes people uncomfortable, especially if you're in a hedgemonic class.
Speaker 1: Then watching people take strides to pursue equality looks like
Speaker 1: terror to them, right, and that and like for they
Speaker 1: were doing it in a way that you know, they
Speaker 1: they're looking at it as like, oh, these guys are
Speaker 1: actual threats to us, you know, like if these people
Speaker 1: were in power, you know, then they would they would
Speaker 1: bring the guillotine out and stuff like that, rather than
Speaker 1: like looking at this as like a part of a
Speaker 1: greater whole where like literally the entire country was marching
Speaker 1: for justice. I feel like the mainstream media is still
Speaker 1: stuck in like sort of the Clintonian like my frame
Speaker 1: of like you know, corporations, like whatever is the most
Speaker 1: profitable will ultimately that be the most good. And like
Speaker 1: Clinton's main sort of like genius for politics was triangulation, right,
Speaker 1: he took he took whatever, like once I believed whatever
Speaker 1: the other side believed, and like would put himself right
Speaker 1: in the middle of those things. I feel like that
Speaker 1: is where the mainstream media is still like kind of fine,
Speaker 1: it's gravitational pool is like towards that, And so as
Speaker 1: things go further and further to the right and still
Speaker 1: claiming to be the center right because the right is
Speaker 1: for is moving further and further towards fucking Nazism, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's very very frustrating. I also think just as regards
Speaker 1: the right, there definitely seems to be like it's really
Speaker 1: not surprised to me that this person, the person that
Speaker 1: they shot at close range in the head and killed
Speaker 1: was an old woman. There there's like some real belieche
Speaker 1: ship that like I feel like goes under you know,
Speaker 1: anti woman like misogyny, obviously racism, but like I don't know,
Speaker 1: it just feels like that is so there's so much
Speaker 1: rage and anger towards women tied up in the right.
Speaker 1: I know that's like not news, but it really seems
Speaker 1: to be underreported because it's just I don't know, I
Speaker 1: guess we we've come to accept it, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is someone who was who was clearly looking for
Speaker 1: victims and not so much looking to get in like
Speaker 1: a shootout, you know. This is someone who's looking to
Speaker 1: just kill a bunch of people and be able to
Speaker 1: you know, run away. Yeah, it's still being described as
Speaker 1: looking for a fight. He wasn't looking for somebody to
Speaker 1: who's going to fight back. No, Yeah, he was looking
Speaker 1: to murder. This is what a mass shooter does. And uh,
Speaker 1: it's not being reported that way because everyone doesn't know
Speaker 1: how they feel, at least in the corporate media. About
Speaker 1: people who protest in the Pacific Northwest, they're all seen
Speaker 1: as like a bunch of communists, so they they're ambivalent
Speaker 1: towards like what are actual These are actual, like fascist
Speaker 1: movements that are happening in the Pacific Northwest, you know.
Speaker 1: And and Antifa is a response to those fascists. It's
Speaker 1: like literally they're going around screaming these guys are not
Speaker 1: and the corporate media goes, oh, these guys call everyone Nazies,
Speaker 1: and then uh, it's like, well they got the swastika
Speaker 1: a right, never mind exactly, No, no, they're saying it.
Speaker 1: They're saying I am Nazi, like they like Third Reich regalia. Exactly,
Speaker 1: they're into that. And again it's just about in general,
Speaker 1: the media is just ill equipped to be able to
Speaker 1: have a sober eyed analysis of white supremacy and just
Speaker 1: rampant inequality, because whenever stories like that pop up, it's
Speaker 1: always some weird fucking half step to acknowledging what's happening,
Speaker 1: rather than saying, like, no, this is actually what's happening.
Speaker 1: This is a problem because it's just like I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really like to talk about that stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's what it feels like. The media is
Speaker 1: like a very uncomfortable, rich person who would rather not
Speaker 1: get too bogged down on the dark ship that's happening,
Speaker 1: And for the rest of us, we look at it
Speaker 1: and you're going, like, you know, the halfway this like
Speaker 1: centrist point, this halfway point is you going like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, then maybe they deserve to die. That's that's
Speaker 1: what they're halfway point is like I'm going to be
Speaker 1: ambivalent about the literal death of people. That's insane. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's this old guy in my neighborhood who walks by
Speaker 1: her house every once in a while, and one time
Speaker 1: he started yelling at my wife while she was putting
Speaker 1: our kids in our car because we have a Black
Speaker 1: Lives Matter sign on our house. And and then so
Speaker 1: I was coming home as this was happening, and like
Speaker 1: found out after the fact I walked down the street
Speaker 1: he was just like still walking down the street accosting
Speaker 1: another young woman. And when I walked up to him,
Speaker 1: the degree to which he shut the funk up and
Speaker 1: was just like out of there and just did not
Speaker 1: want any sort of conflict when another white male was involved,
Speaker 1: presumably is was pretty and and he still walks by
Speaker 1: and like won't like look at me when he walks by,
Speaker 1: Like it's just but I don't know, man, Like the
Speaker 1: when they broke into the Capitol building, they went immediately
Speaker 1: for like Nancy Pelosi's office and wrote like a sword
Speaker 1: on her desk, And it's just like they are so
Speaker 1: mad at women. They really hate women, that's uh, you know.
Speaker 1: And whenever someone like ties all this stuff back to
Speaker 1: gamer Gate. I'm like, yeah, that's right, Yeah, that's that's correct.
Speaker 1: Like this is underlying this whole thing, is that like
Speaker 1: women are trying to change us and uh and it's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot of misogynous energy that comes
Speaker 1: from it, and they just kind of disguise it and
Speaker 1: other things, but you know, at the core, they're just uh,
Speaker 1: people who hate women and want to yell at someone
Speaker 1: who they think they are stronger than, which is uh
Speaker 1: peak fascism, right, yeah, exactly. But also like why do
Speaker 1: you have to put your politics like right here on
Speaker 1: the front of the front lawn of our neighborhood? You
Speaker 1: know why why did you do that? Jack? Oh? This
Speaker 1: isn't this isn't a political statement. This is this is
Speaker 1: this is a philosophical one. That's what I believe. Well,
Speaker 1: well you know what what I believe. His white lives matter? Okay,
Speaker 1: how about that? Yeah you want to box? Oh well
Speaker 1: I mean come on, come on, come on, do you
Speaker 1: have a wife. I could fight. I'll fight your wife.
Speaker 1: Your wife over like what he would He wouldn't even
Speaker 1: say a thing, like he was just like stunned silence
Speaker 1: when a man walked up and that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And I know we're about to talk about this military
Speaker 1: based story, but like it's it's the same way you
Speaker 1: see them going after like gay and trans kids or
Speaker 1: eat now. Oh yeah, it's a group that we feel
Speaker 1: is vulnerable that we can just fucking shove around and
Speaker 1: not and hope that there's minimal blowback for trying to
Speaker 1: completely terrorize these people. Yeah, that's what's happening with all
Speaker 1: these fucking Greg Abbott signed a bill on Wednesday or
Speaker 1: Tuesday night, um that that was essentially like deputizing school
Speaker 1: officials to become like hunters of trans kids and their people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's their whole sort of I think
Speaker 1: way of affirming their potency or power is to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but see, we can just we can funk up all
Speaker 1: these marginalized people. It's kind of hard ship set sail
Speaker 1: on doing that to most Americans. So we're going to
Speaker 1: pick at the margins, you know what. It It just
Speaker 1: reminds me of something that I saw. There was a
Speaker 1: representative I think from Kentucky. You know that he's like
Speaker 1: the libertarian one. I forget, I forget his name. It's
Speaker 1: not he's not Rand Paul, but he posted this meme.
Speaker 1: It's an old, old right wing meme with a miss
Speaker 1: attributed Voltaire quote that's as like, if you want to
Speaker 1: know who's in power, then it's the people who you
Speaker 1: can't criticize. And it's like this old like it's a
Speaker 1: cartoon of like a big hand crushing like all these
Speaker 1: like people, and it's it's an old anti semitic meme
Speaker 1: about the people you're not allowed to criticize are always
Speaker 1: the people in power. And someone else posted a different
Speaker 1: version of it where the big hand was children with leukemia.
Speaker 1: Uh and and for me, I was like, that is
Speaker 1: the perfect distillation of actually what is going on because
Speaker 1: they we live in this society in which we have
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's a certain like social contract with
Speaker 1: each other where we're like it's meme to make fun
Speaker 1: or to go after the small marginalized groups. That's why
Speaker 1: we don't do it, you know. And and the thing
Speaker 1: is is we have a his three of doing that.
Speaker 1: So in being told you are not allowed to, you know,
Speaker 1: discriminate against trans people. You know, you're not allowed to
Speaker 1: be misogynist, you know, you're not allowed to be racist,
Speaker 1: towards people. They look at that and they go like,
Speaker 1: that's how you know they're in power because I can't go,
Speaker 1: you know, up to a child with leukemi and slap
Speaker 1: them in the face. So like this idea of like
Speaker 1: going after weaker people is is or you know, people
Speaker 1: who they perceive as being like like, it's they perceive
Speaker 1: them as being in power. That's the whole thing. So
Speaker 1: they look at trans people and they go like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is all These are the people who are really
Speaker 1: in charge. Like every single marginalized group they think is
Speaker 1: more important than them. You know, it's like it's this
Speaker 1: zero sum game. So if these people are marginally doing better,
Speaker 1: I need to be like, let me check you real quick.
Speaker 1: Let me just let you know who's actually and like
Speaker 1: to your point, it's almost like this, actually, no, we're
Speaker 1: in charge. We will tell you when you can have rights.
Speaker 1: I will dictate to you, or we will define what
Speaker 1: equality is. And it isn't what the funk you're talking about.
Speaker 1: So the second you try and take up and pursue
Speaker 1: liberation on your own terms, no no, no, no no no,
Speaker 1: because that excludes us from this dynamic Ectly, we're insuing
Speaker 1: us from the decision to give you the rights were
Speaker 1: to give you any power at all, and and that's
Speaker 1: uh so that's what they're being told. They're like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's why white people, you know, are a lot
Speaker 1: of white people like talk about affirmative action in this
Speaker 1: way where they're like, oh, you know, they're getting special
Speaker 1: rights and and whatnot, and not at all looking at
Speaker 1: it in terms of like the from a historical perspective
Speaker 1: at all, or like from like just the protection, Like
Speaker 1: the idea that you would try to protect people who
Speaker 1: are marginalized should be a normal thing, but instead they
Speaker 1: look at at it as like a power struggle, right,
Speaker 1: and empathy has been weaponized. So now it's like, well
Speaker 1: why why is why are these people getting it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think people need to like really ask themselves, is
Speaker 1: what is the harm that's done when you make someone's
Speaker 1: life easier? Where is the fucking harm? Because that's essentially
Speaker 1: what all these people who have some kind of you know,
Speaker 1: they're they're using their energy to advocate for something that's
Speaker 1: a positive for somebody else. That's all this pursuit is in.
Speaker 1: It's it's just to make things easier to have to
Speaker 1: have healthcare, that doesn't bankrupt you, is made so your
Speaker 1: life can be easier and not begin having your like
Speaker 1: the heimis stots polet side two point oh, looking for
Speaker 1: trans kids isn't like the point of trying to give
Speaker 1: gender affirming care to kids to make their fucking life easier.
Speaker 1: So what the fuck or what's the fucking damage? And
Speaker 1: that's the thing that's the that's the that's always the
Speaker 1: thing that trouble articulating, and it has to be all
Speaker 1: these weird straw man arguments or what about is ms
Speaker 1: or total disinformation. It's always a secret plot to victimize
Speaker 1: them for being like quote normal. You know, it's like,
Speaker 1: this is what you're doing. You're victimizing my my straights,
Speaker 1: this gendered kid by giving you know, special consideration or
Speaker 1: any kind of like do you think that do you
Speaker 1: think people deserve just dignity in general and they deserve
Speaker 1: to have, you know, a life that isn't filled with pain,
Speaker 1: not if dignity is a zero sum game or pain,
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I mean. And that's all like,
Speaker 1: that's it because you see people, you know, especially you
Speaker 1: see evangelical people who are super close minded and again
Speaker 1: can find all these like logic holes to begin to
Speaker 1: justify why their their worldview is actually in direct opposition
Speaker 1: to their you know, purported savior Jesus Christ. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know, God, they're so horny to be the victim,
Speaker 1: and they want they got to be the victim. Like
Speaker 1: of course, that's why to me, that's why I thought.
Speaker 1: I think more people pulled up for that trucker ship
Speaker 1: because it gave them an opportunity to do victim cosplay exactly.
Speaker 1: Oppressed people aren't interested in victimhood cosplay. They experienced that
Speaker 1: ship all the time. There's need to go out there
Speaker 1: and be like, oh my God brings canisters. But also
Speaker 1: it is clearly a very potent organizing force for that
Speaker 1: group of people. M And I think that's an interesting
Speaker 1: dimension of it that you know, obviously not many people
Speaker 1: can be like what is it? Obviously, I mean people
Speaker 1: have been analyzing that the convoy and that, But it's
Speaker 1: that need to be a victim to that I think
Speaker 1: has a huge role in seeing a lot of the
Speaker 1: participation because it gives you the opportunity to be able
Speaker 1: to be like I was there and they took away
Speaker 1: my raincoat. Yeah right, these are people who have you know,
Speaker 1: they never protested in solidarity with anyone ever before, and
Speaker 1: it's the first time that they've ever encountered what protests
Speaker 1: are and uh, and they're like, wow, you know this
Speaker 1: is uh, this is some sort of police state. It's like, oh, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: ship actually police state, or at a normal protest, the
Speaker 1: police don't let you take selfies in the back seat
Speaker 1: of their car and then let you out. One thing
Speaker 1: with the trans kids thing is that I you know,
Speaker 1: have seen with other parents being like, well, how would
Speaker 1: you know, Like what what if your kid like did that? Like, hey,
Speaker 1: you can't trust a thing like my kid says they're
Speaker 1: like a mermaid some days. And just I understand that
Speaker 1: initial impulse if all you're seeing is a single social
Speaker 1: media post and trying to make your decision based on that,
Speaker 1: do just the smallest amount of fucking reading, dude, read
Speaker 1: an interview with somebody who was trans, who is trans,
Speaker 1: and whose parents listened to them. You never hear them
Speaker 1: say I wish my parents hadn't listened to me. All
Speaker 1: you hear is them say my parents saved my life
Speaker 1: in listening to me and taking me seriously. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that that's an initial sort of response there from people
Speaker 1: whose children aren't trans and so they haven't don't with
Speaker 1: it and don't understand. It. Was the same thing with
Speaker 1: like Prop eight or like Dolma, you know, like gay marriage.
Speaker 1: The first the mouth breather rebuttal was, well then what next? Then?
Speaker 1: What next? What's next? I don't know? Man. Do you
Speaker 1: know a guy who's married to a fucking cat? I
Speaker 1: love that. Let's say that ship. There's no one out
Speaker 1: of protests holding up a sign with a poodle and
Speaker 1: a question mark on it. It was just like time
Speaker 1: to animals know that's beast and that's fucked up nobody,
Speaker 1: but you keep mentioning it over and over. That's just
Speaker 1: someone who wants to That's just someone who really just
Speaker 1: wants that and doesn't know how to ask for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: read some of your posts. It does seem like a
Speaker 1: concerted This is the new frontier that they're fighting is
Speaker 1: against parents who help their children who are trans. That
Speaker 1: that's what they've moved on to from gay marriage. They're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we lost that one, right, and that's right. They'll keep retreating.
Speaker 1: They're like, okay, funk it. We can't segregate like like
Speaker 1: fully bring back Jim Crow, then let's go after critical
Speaker 1: race theory. The thing that even gave people an imagination
Speaker 1: to understand how complex this white supremacist capitalist patriarchy is
Speaker 1: that we live in this country. I think their foothold
Speaker 1: on the parents of trans children thing is entirely built
Speaker 1: on that initial like instinct of parents to be like, well,
Speaker 1: my kids, right, says the Wildest Ship. So all you
Speaker 1: have to do is just do It's not a lot
Speaker 1: of reading, it's just amount of reading. And you know
Speaker 1: what's so funny, I have I know more people who
Speaker 1: talk about how they wish their parents weren't so rigid
Speaker 1: about gender when they were kids than I've heard like
Speaker 1: and more, not in the sense of like, oh, they
Speaker 1: were too loose with me. I got so confused. I
Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on. It was like no,
Speaker 1: like I fucking didn't want to have long hair, and
Speaker 1: I remember like being so pissed my parents would let
Speaker 1: me cut my hair shorter because I was a girl
Speaker 1: or I looked like a girl is presenting as a girl.
Speaker 1: And rather than just you know the again, the thing
Speaker 1: that parents just need to understand is I just need
Speaker 1: to love your fucking kids. That's really what it is,
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna go wrong loving it. It's one
Speaker 1: thing to enable something, to be enabling, but that's not
Speaker 1: what we're talking about here. It's about providing an environment
Speaker 1: of acceptance, love, and support that's consistent enough that you
Speaker 1: raise a human being that doesn't go around with a
Speaker 1: massive black hole in their fucking, you know, soul and
Speaker 1: trying to find answers in the most destructive ways. And
Speaker 1: to think that again that with with these bills, not
Speaker 1: just that one, but these don't say gay bills that
Speaker 1: are popping up all over, you know, being led by Florida.
Speaker 1: It's about trying to say that being a empathetic parent
Speaker 1: is bad. That's what they're trying to push back against,
Speaker 1: is that you could be an understanding parent. And that's
Speaker 1: I think what all of this backlash around critical race theory,
Speaker 1: or perceive the perceived idea that it's being taught in
Speaker 1: schools when it's not. It's all about trying to fucking
Speaker 1: just fry out people's empathy circuits so they're willing to
Speaker 1: just stomach anything. Yeah. Oh wait one second, when when
Speaker 1: I asked one question, Becky, you said your friend who
Speaker 1: lived in New York is now afraid to live in Portland.
Speaker 1: You're saying, because what what what what? What's your what
Speaker 1: was your take on that? Uh? Yeah, So I have
Speaker 1: I lived in Portland for a couple of years, like
Speaker 1: almost three, and I moved right at the start of
Speaker 1: the pandemic to New York City. Crazy, I know. But
Speaker 1: I still have a lot of friends that live in
Speaker 1: the city of Portland, and they have said during their
Speaker 1: time in Portland, it's been super stressful, super chaotic and
Speaker 1: mind dude, these are all primarily like women of color,
Speaker 1: who's like really built up the community of color in Portland,
Speaker 1: and they have said that, you know, one of them,
Speaker 1: of my good friends, she lived in New York for
Speaker 1: about ten years. She's from Philly, she went to Howard,
Speaker 1: So she's like someone who is not like from a
Speaker 1: sheltered area, and yeah, she has that narrogate situations and
Speaker 1: she's lived in Portland. I mean, she hasn't left Portland,
Speaker 1: and she said it's been really tough, it's been really
Speaker 1: scary to be a black woman in Portland right now,
Speaker 1: and that she has felt more for the past couple
Speaker 1: of years with everything going on in Portland than she
Speaker 1: ever felt in New York, got it okay, Yeah, more
Speaker 1: that it's become this venue where like there's open the
Speaker 1: fascist people just trouncing around. And I thought I thought
Speaker 1: you were saying that. Like she's like, no, I an
Speaker 1: Tifa is really bad out here, but more so just
Speaker 1: how you know, like the other way, like the conflict,
Speaker 1: conflicts and shots, and she's like, I've been more afraid
Speaker 1: of shootings in Portland than I was ever in New
Speaker 1: York City. Like it's just been super, super bad. I mean,
Speaker 1: she went to Howard during nine eleven, Like you know,
Speaker 1: she's been through it, and the past couple of years
Speaker 1: in Portland have been super tough and her mental like
Speaker 1: she's just been like I don't know how much longer
Speaker 1: I can stay in Portland, even though she's built a
Speaker 1: life there, because it's just gotten so bad to just
Speaker 1: be a person of color in that city. M yeah,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. And I've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: my friends leave to in the past couple of years.
Speaker 1: As much as I've had a lot of friends and
Speaker 1: I made a really strong community of color there, I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of people leave just because it's desolate
Speaker 1: and scary. Mm hmm. I mean Robert Evans moved there
Speaker 1: because he was like, this is where the Civil War
Speaker 1: is gonna pop off. If it does, then like he's
Speaker 1: not wrong from a reporting standpoint, like this is like
Speaker 1: the level of fascism and organized fascism that is happening
Speaker 1: in Portland is something that I want to be there
Speaker 1: to cover. Yeah, it's scary. All right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and then we'll come back and talk about
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiros maybe and we're back and Ben Shapiro. The
Speaker 1: Daily Wire made the news a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: By they were they were like, We're we're coming for
Speaker 1: how Hollywood baby, No more Holly Weird. We're gonna start
Speaker 1: making movies for the rest of normal time. And they
Speaker 1: have released first of all, at their announcement they were
Speaker 1: in like tuxedo. I don't know, is it very strange,
Speaker 1: Like their version of what what Hollywood is the tuxedos
Speaker 1: and cigars seems to be like what they what they
Speaker 1: want to get into the side probably what they want
Speaker 1: to get into. But yeah, right, they saw the Aviator, uh,
Speaker 1: and they were you know, and they were just like, oh,
Speaker 1: this old, this whole you know, Samuel Goldwin and you know,
Speaker 1: Louis b. Mayor with their top hats and their long cigarettes,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I don't think you know what Hollywood
Speaker 1: looks like. But anyways, they we just got their first movie. Miles.
Speaker 1: You were mentioning, it's not like a homegrown like Ben
Speaker 1: Shapiro pitched an idea to a panel of fascists. This
Speaker 1: is actually movie that was in development for a little
Speaker 1: while at a different studio, right, he said, focus If First. Okay,
Speaker 1: it was first? How it was a blacklist script? Okay,
Speaker 1: you know that's insane. Shout out. Franklin and Kate have
Speaker 1: been on the show, and you know it was also
Speaker 1: on top of the blood list too, I think for
Speaker 1: a like sort of more like horror Center films. And
Speaker 1: then I remember If first or not. I remember I
Speaker 1: remember from looking at it because I was looking up
Speaker 1: the writer. New Line had first bid to get the script,
Speaker 1: and they won. A New Line Cinema was the people
Speaker 1: who got the script from this writer, Melanie Toast and
Speaker 1: by the way, yeah, happy toast you and Jason Bateman
Speaker 1: was initially I think, attached to direct this film, and
Speaker 1: then Jason Bateman, Yeah, Jason Bateman was going to direct it.
Speaker 1: And then directed anything a couple of episodes Ozark. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, but that's how get your that's how get
Speaker 1: your beek wey. You gotta start somewhere. I gotta start somewhere,
Speaker 1: Jason Bateman. First you become a huge movie star as
Speaker 1: a child and the TV star, do a cult comedy
Speaker 1: and you're back in Baby. But then, like all Hollywood deals,
Speaker 1: it did this thing where they didn't do anything during
Speaker 1: the option period, so the window closed. New line was like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, I guess we can't do anything with it.
Speaker 1: And then that's when one of the producers took it
Speaker 1: to The Daily Wire to be like, hey, how about
Speaker 1: this thing, much to the chagrin of the writer because
Speaker 1: they I've gone to Melanie toasts Twitter page and she
Speaker 1: hasn't tweeted like I think since it was announced the
Speaker 1: Daily Wire was going to be making the film, and
Speaker 1: the she's she liked a tweet recently, like in the
Speaker 1: last week, and some of the recent likes have been
Speaker 1: things about like sort of commiserating or being like, I
Speaker 1: feel so bad for anybody who's caught up with production
Speaker 1: company who had no fucking intention of working with these people,
Speaker 1: and now fucking Ben Shapiro is distributing your film, like,
Speaker 1: and those are the likes I see, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like like career ending bad luck, I know,
Speaker 1: especially since it was a Blacklist script. You know, You're like,
Speaker 1: she's for sure on top of the world. She's just
Speaker 1: like I can't believe this, and then Ben Shapiro gobbles
Speaker 1: it up and you're just like a fuck. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: aligned with Candice Owens because I made a fucking thriller
Speaker 1: about a lady stuck in a closet. She I mean,
Speaker 1: if you saw a Daily Wire. They made a fucking
Speaker 1: escape room modeled after like the pantry that the protagonist
Speaker 1: is throughout the film. Yes, and Candice Owens had to
Speaker 1: escape from it like they did like a who's who
Speaker 1: of right wing trash commentators to participate in the fucking
Speaker 1: escape room. And I was like, oh, I hate this
Speaker 1: kind of content. That sucks. I feel that I see.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that backstory about Melanie Toast because first
Speaker 1: of all, I've just been shortling at her name for
Speaker 1: a while because the Toast is a great last name
Speaker 1: just to pop up when you don't know what you're saying,
Speaker 1: especially since the director is DJ Caruso like a legit director.
Speaker 1: It's a legit director, a good a good director. But
Speaker 1: you know, written by Melanie Toast and directed by DJ
Speaker 1: Caruso just sounds like they're just sound like featured rappers
Speaker 1: on Dawn de right, right, like Melanie Toast sounds like
Speaker 1: a sick young like absolutely yeah. But yeah, so this,
Speaker 1: yeah that he did disturb you and okay not the
Speaker 1: original Triple X return of Yeah, yeah, pretty good too.
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, that's lesser Caruso for sure, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: how how did this hold up? Because you have seen it,
Speaker 1: Matt identations were presumably very high. Yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: Well I was very excited, first of all to see
Speaker 1: a movie that was finally going to stick it to Hollywood,
Speaker 1: you know, something where they're like, we're not gonna do
Speaker 1: any of this, like, you know, this is a movie
Speaker 1: that anyone can enjoy, regardless of political views. And then,
Speaker 1: of course, in order to watch the movie, my co
Speaker 1: host of the broadcast, he had to sign up to
Speaker 1: the Daily Wire in order to actually watch it, because
Speaker 1: they wouldn't send out screeners, and so in order to
Speaker 1: sign up for the Daily Wire to watch this movie
Speaker 1: you have to press the stand with us button rather
Speaker 1: than just subscribe, so he had to it immediately, like
Speaker 1: inundates you with with a bunch of right wing politics
Speaker 1: to even watch the fucking thing. Yeah, if you sign
Speaker 1: up for a year, which a hundred and four dollars
Speaker 1: because you have to be a subscriber to watch the film,
Speaker 1: you get a free tumbler that's labeled liberal Tears. You know. Uh, yes,
Speaker 1: I love my a political movies to come with a
Speaker 1: free right wing merch. So yeah, the movie is, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's a garbled mess. It's one of those like
Speaker 1: movies where because just the mere fact that it's like
Speaker 1: aligned with like the Daily Wire, you're kind of like
Speaker 1: you're waiting for the politics to come through, and it
Speaker 1: really is. It's both political and a political at the
Speaker 1: same time. Like none of it makes any sense. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of apple metaphors in this movie in which, like,
Speaker 1: so there's about a woman who is a single mother
Speaker 1: and she's taking care of her two kids in her
Speaker 1: dead mother's house. You know, her her mom has died
Speaker 1: or maybe it was her grandma, and the house is
Speaker 1: in shambles. She's an ex addict, she's trying to get
Speaker 1: you know, trying to stay clean for her kids, and
Speaker 1: there are all these apple trees, but they have all
Speaker 1: these rotten apples on them, so you're like, Okay, a
Speaker 1: metaphor is happening here, but the apple metaphor is so
Speaker 1: it's it's just so convoluted that you you end up
Speaker 1: at the end of the movie not knowing what they're
Speaker 1: trying to do with this apple metaphor. It's like it's
Speaker 1: it's completely it's just completely convoluted. She gets locked in
Speaker 1: a pantry accidentally, and then it's like a bottle episode movie.
Speaker 1: It's like one of those that, yeah, it's a single
Speaker 1: location thriller, you know, like like open water, right, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just the like blood, the blood life or the
Speaker 1: life blood of like a small studio. It just contained thrillers.
Speaker 1: You got to do a contained thriller exactly, which is
Speaker 1: which is like, that's that's fine. But what ends up
Speaker 1: happening is that her her ex, her her baby daddy,
Speaker 1: who was a still a meth head, locks her into
Speaker 1: a pantry and she proceeds to spend the rest of
Speaker 1: the movie trying to trying to escape the pantry by
Speaker 1: by digging into the floor rather than through the door
Speaker 1: that's right in front of her. And meanwhile, she's trying
Speaker 1: to at the same time protect her children from Vincent Gallo,
Speaker 1: who plays a pedophile who keeps showing up trying to
Speaker 1: presumably have sex with her children. And I do love
Speaker 1: the idea of like them sticking it to Hollywood by
Speaker 1: getting Vincent Gallo to play a Hollywood democrat who is
Speaker 1: like trying to have sex with children, which, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of how I looked at it, but um, yeah.
Speaker 1: And then it just proceeds to kind of have a
Speaker 1: religious message where she like kind of has to believe
Speaker 1: in Jesus in order to get out. But it's not
Speaker 1: like your regular like faith based type movie, because again,
Speaker 1: the metaphors are really mixed. It's like, at one point
Speaker 1: she opens the Bible and finds that her mother had
Speaker 1: put a bunch of hundred dollar bills in there, you know,
Speaker 1: so it's like, oh, you know, if you just opened
Speaker 1: that Bible, it could have helped you. And then at
Speaker 1: the same time, she uses a literal cross to like
Speaker 1: basically to to to like dig herself out, but she
Speaker 1: also hammers a nail through the pedophiles hand. It's just
Speaker 1: very confusing. Right at the very end, her meth head
Speaker 1: husband tries to force her to do meth by gunpoint,
Speaker 1: which as a drug addict, clean drug addict of twelve years,
Speaker 1: you know, no one who's addicted to drugs tries to
Speaker 1: give other people the drug. That's not that's not a
Speaker 1: thing that we've ever done. Ever. That was my biggest
Speaker 1: fear when I was a kid. I think I was
Speaker 1: going to somebody's gonna be like, you take these drugs
Speaker 1: the fuckers. Like when I was in the you know,
Speaker 1: mind space of like drugs kill, Like, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: if they kill, the only way that they'd be able
Speaker 1: to get me to take them is like by I
Speaker 1: remember having nightmares where somebody would like put a gun
Speaker 1: in my head and then cut my finger and like
Speaker 1: pour a white powder on the cut, and that was
Speaker 1: like how I got hooked. Oh, I think, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's I just I love the idea of you just
Speaker 1: sitting there going like I gotta prepare someday. There's my
Speaker 1: biggest fears quicksand exactly and guy trying to force me
Speaker 1: to do his his drugs that he paid for bullies
Speaker 1: all just wanted you to smoke smoke their weed kids.
Speaker 1: And why are people doing thrillers like that, like really
Speaker 1: seriously taking these like just hair brained fears fears and
Speaker 1: blowing them out like it is like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: the gay marriage thing happened, and now Bradley is with
Speaker 1: his hog. It's eating him alive, like you'd be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, like really play that out it really,
Speaker 1: I'm curious. It's just like in the movie It and
Speaker 1: the book It. How you know, it likes to transform
Speaker 1: into it like a children's biggest fear, or like people's
Speaker 1: biggest fear in general, But it transforms into like a
Speaker 1: mother accepting their their trans kid, you know, where it
Speaker 1: turns into quicksand or it turns into like someone holding
Speaker 1: a gun to your head and forcing you to do smack.
Speaker 1: Someone's like, dr thank you so much. It was really touching.
Speaker 1: Go there you were in a coma. We had to
Speaker 1: put you into a coma. But we've done, We've damaged
Speaker 1: or we've repaired all the damage to your organs, and
Speaker 1: we feel like you'll have a very normal life after this.
Speaker 1: Thank you. What do I owe you? Probably millions of dollars?
Speaker 1: You owe us nothing. The evil clown is at it again,
Speaker 1: giving people free surgeries, free surgeries. Also interesting to note
Speaker 1: that Rainy Quality who is Yeah, yeah, and Andy mcdonell's daughter,
Speaker 1: So the whole McDowell clan. They're just all knockouts. They're
Speaker 1: all beautiful. But what they're the most beautiful women in
Speaker 1: the world anyways. Sorry? Sorry? Can I be horny on
Speaker 1: your podcast for second? Married? Yet? I can be in
Speaker 1: love with the quality? Right? Hey, what's the matter the qualities? Hey? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like the qualities? What you kind of? By the way,
Speaker 1: what a career for Vincent gallow So for people who
Speaker 1: aren't familiar, he made a solid indie movie called Buffalo
Speaker 1: sixty six, used that momentum to make a movie called
Speaker 1: The Own Bunny, in which he filmed a unsimulated sex
Speaker 1: scene with Chloe's setting off, and then not much. But
Speaker 1: he's now a Republican so that's core. Yeah. He hasn't
Speaker 1: directed anything other than shorts since then. I'm going so
Speaker 1: he's now a republic As I was wondering, I was
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, like he because I don't know his politics,
Speaker 1: but I can absolutely see see him do that. He'll
Speaker 1: turn where he's just like Hollywood is sick. I would
Speaker 1: know I got my dick sucked, you know, like that
Speaker 1: is uh, that makes a lot of sense. Vincent Gallo,
Speaker 1: like I I saw a thing Vincent gallow On being
Speaker 1: a Republican, which could have easily been you know, him
Speaker 1: being like Republicans are fucking stupid, but no, the Hollywood
Speaker 1: Reporter and a long rambling open letter the actor, writer
Speaker 1: director producers settled scores with a number of people, and
Speaker 1: the opening line is Vincent Gallo likes Donald Trump quote
Speaker 1: a lot and is quote extremely proud he is the
Speaker 1: American president. So you know, yeah, I think he just
Speaker 1: sold he had a Trump Tower apartment that he just sold. Uh.
Speaker 1: And if you look, he has fucking like I mean
Speaker 1: it's more than that, Like he has some like wildly
Speaker 1: anti Semitic racist ship that he saw on his website. Wo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he has like a fucking like shirt that says like
Speaker 1: whites freed the blacks and ship what the fun? And
Speaker 1: then he like, I think there was something I don't
Speaker 1: know how true, was he was offering to sell his sperm,
Speaker 1: but he wouldn't do it for like black people, but
Speaker 1: Jewish women were okay because of He's like they will
Speaker 1: be guaranteed like safe passage through the desert, like you know,
Speaker 1: like saying just implying that Jews have like a lot
Speaker 1: of money, so it'll be okay, Jesus Christ totally, No,
Speaker 1: that'll make sense. No, I mean that's that's legit. That's legit.
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, you have this guy in your movie,
Speaker 1: come on now? Interesting? Also? He so my like every
Speaker 1: kid has their favorite like stuffed animal. My five year
Speaker 1: olds was, ohs is a little blue bear. My three
Speaker 1: year olds is brown bunny. Oh yeah, I get to
Speaker 1: think about Vincent Gallows non simulated world sex scene like
Speaker 1: four or five times a day. Well, you know, don't
Speaker 1: change the name. Just make the your next uh stuffed
Speaker 1: animal a buffalo and you can call it buffalo suxces. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not in control of the naming of the stuff.
Speaker 1: He's by the way, it's yeah alright, Well, Matt, such
Speaker 1: a pleasure having you as always. Where we'll find you,
Speaker 1: follow you all that good stuff. You can find me
Speaker 1: over at Instagram, uh at that leap jokes. It's a
Speaker 1: great website. Check out their app. I forget where I
Speaker 1: heard it. I heard your great follow on there though
Speaker 1: I'm a great fall Yeah, you've probably heard that from
Speaker 1: a lot of really important famous people, but also for me,
Speaker 1: so check that out. Also, I do a movie podcast
Speaker 1: with previous Daily se guy as Daily Site Geist guest.
Speaker 1: That's hard Daily's I guess, Vince Vince Mancini. We do
Speaker 1: a podcast called the Prodcast where we talk about movies,
Speaker 1: and uh, pod yourself, I've gotten where we talk about
Speaker 1: the Sopranos. It's the world's only Sopranos podcast right there.
Speaker 1: It is, um And is there a tweet or some
Speaker 1: of the work of social media you've been enjoying, Yes, recently.
Speaker 1: I think it was just today. Actually, this tweet came
Speaker 1: out and uh, I almost didn't choose it because I
Speaker 1: figured you guys might have chosen this one. But it's
Speaker 1: from a user at till the World. Why are all
Speaker 1: podcasts two best friends? I want a podcast that's two
Speaker 1: sworn enemies, just two bitches that absolutely hate each other,
Speaker 1: which shows like, yeah, that's that would be a good podcast.
Speaker 1: I check it. Yeah, I would love to hear it.
Speaker 1: Just like coworkers fighting. It's just like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's like it's I guess I just kind of let
Speaker 1: my voice notes app run wild during our lunch breaks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you should do it. I'm saying that what you guys
Speaker 1: should do is just start developing enmity for each other,
Speaker 1: like true true hatred and one thing on it for
Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, we have a couple of therapists that's
Speaker 1: trying to make us despise each other a little bit.
Speaker 1: I like that, the Daily Hate guyst Yeah. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then I like somebody pointed out the sub genre or
Speaker 1: I guess, like the thing that actually exists of that
Speaker 1: is two best friends who hate their listeners. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: which is one of my favorites. That's me and Vince.
Speaker 1: But we do it out of love. You were tagged
Speaker 1: in that we do call all of our listeners piggis
Speaker 1: and hogs, but it's not. But we love bigs and
Speaker 1: hogs like this thing. We we are very intelligent, they're
Speaker 1: empathetic and they're loving and they love their slop. And
Speaker 1: let's all be real, we all love slop. We're all
Speaker 1: piggies to someone else's you know, trough Like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm a big piggy for you know, Narcos Mexico. Great show.
Speaker 1: I would like more content, please, the new The new
Speaker 1: season is good. It's so good. It's so good, all right.
Speaker 1: It's it's always harder for me to get the momentum
Speaker 1: going on a show that's subtitled, because then I can't
Speaker 1: look at my phone, I know, and I shouldn't be
Speaker 1: doing anyways. Just fucking learn Spanish, bro, and then you
Speaker 1: can look at your phone at the end. Now. But
Speaker 1: even if you learn Spanish, they still speak real fast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it helps me to, like I I did, like let
Speaker 1: me go five minutes and no subtitles, just to try
Speaker 1: and immerse myself. It doesn't work all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get you begin to pick up on things I
Speaker 1: would say, not a proven way to learn any kind
Speaker 1: of like no, yeah, it turns out it's not like
Speaker 1: that that one Antonio Bendaris movie, like The Twelfth Warrior
Speaker 1: or whatever. I forget what the Twelfth Night. It's twelve.
Speaker 1: It's twelfth night. No, it's like, I forget what it's called.
Speaker 1: But it's like he's sitting around and everyone's speaking another language. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the words start turning into like English, yeah, and
Speaker 1: they learns the language by sitting there. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen I've been in French class for three years.
Speaker 1: You're talking right at me and pointing to the English words.
Speaker 1: They're saying, I'm still not connected. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the hell that means. Miles, Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter
Speaker 1: and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also the other pod
Speaker 1: four twenty day fiance with Sophia Alexandro We talked ninety
Speaker 1: day check that one out. Um. Some tweets that I like. Oh,
Speaker 1: let's see, um, this one is from at A Z
Speaker 1: D A z I E D. Dude. I want more
Speaker 1: Americans to spend time with odd so that they are
Speaker 1: more reasonably embarrassed about the state of their society. We
Speaker 1: are like the kid at school who doesn't realize they
Speaker 1: need to order it yet. Yeah, just just anywhere, just
Speaker 1: get it, get out a little bit. That perspective will
Speaker 1: do something to you. And then Kate Doyle at Doyle Schmoyle,
Speaker 1: what of Kate uh tweeted when Tim McGraw does crab
Speaker 1: magaw is called crab McGraw. Wow, that is good. I
Speaker 1: love that, But I just see him like teaching a class. Alright,
Speaker 1: y'all do some crab mcgrawl. Now. You can find me
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Jack Underscore, O'Brien, let's do this one dial
Speaker 1: h for a guy tweeted uh. Doctor says, treatment is simple.
Speaker 1: Johnny Knoxville is in town tonight with his new film Jackass.
Speaker 1: Go and see him. That should pick you up. Man
Speaker 1: burst into tears says, but doctor, I am Johnny Knoxville
Speaker 1: and this is Jack Oh. That's wonderful his checks. You
Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at
Speaker 1: the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan
Speaker 1: page and a website, Daily zeitgeist dot com, where we
Speaker 1: post our episodes and our footnotes. Were the link off
Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as this song that we think you should
Speaker 1: go check out. Miles, what song do we think people
Speaker 1: should go check out? I mean one of the greatest
Speaker 1: pieces of music of all time is the D'Angelo album
Speaker 1: Voodoo from two thousands and look, if you haven't heard
Speaker 1: the album, please do yourself a favor and listen to
Speaker 1: this album from the start to the end. It is fantastic.
Speaker 1: You have people like quest Love on drums, you know,
Speaker 1: Palladino on bass, and it's just a really really great album.
Speaker 1: But this track is sort of like this is sort
Speaker 1: of like the more poppy track that if for me
Speaker 1: as a hip hop head, got me into the Voodoo album,
Speaker 1: and that's the Devil's Pie. So it was also on
Speaker 1: the Badley soundtrack. So we're gonna write out on Devil's
Speaker 1: Pie by D'Angelo, you know, classically put that one on
Speaker 1: your brain. Yeah, I gotta teach people got if they
Speaker 1: don't know, they need to know. There we go, all right,
Speaker 1: well go check that out. The Daily Zey Guys is
Speaker 1: the production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts for
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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is
Speaker 1: going to do it for us this morning. We are
Speaker 1: back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you all then. Bye. B