Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fifteen, episode
Speaker 1: two of Jared Like you guys used to production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take
Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Monday, December,
Speaker 1: which I don't have to tell you all, but Miles
Speaker 1: might have to tell you, guys that it is of
Speaker 1: course national Oh you want to know what December four is?
Speaker 1: It's National bullya Base Day. So if you love that
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Speaker 1: to our gastronomic culture, celebrate by making I think, what
Speaker 1: is something very easy to funk up? I feel like
Speaker 1: a bullya base is not like mac and cheese, but anyway, celebrated.
Speaker 1: Just just toss some bulla base together. I love craft
Speaker 1: instant bullah base. That's one of my favorites. Right, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien, a K. Nancy Davis went
Speaker 1: to town with the dummy throat game, married a dumb
Speaker 1: guy named drown and which a war on co. Can't
Speaker 1: Nancy Reagan go away? Try some drugs, Old lady fire psychic,
Speaker 1: take a hit. You could have saved the eighties. That
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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host
Speaker 1: Mr Miles grab Jack popping through your window even if
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Speaker 1: We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: by a very funny writer, filmmaker actor who you've seen
Speaker 1: in the largely improvised roncom feature The End of Us,
Speaker 1: which premiered at South by One. She's a writer and
Speaker 1: producer on the morning show on Apple TV. Plus. You
Speaker 1: might have heard of it was a field producer on
Speaker 1: the opposition with Jordan Clapper. Probably seen her in short
Speaker 1: films that she wrote, directed and produced that are like
Speaker 1: actual short films but somehow managed to like goes super viral,
Speaker 1: which is pretty pretty impressive, the good kind of short film. Yeah,
Speaker 1: please welcome the brilliant and talented Ali Vingiano. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for having me. I am stunned by your songs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we try and keep things up top very morning
Speaker 1: Zoo and that includes bad parody songs, produce ourselves. Shout
Speaker 1: out to the people. You know, there are people like
Speaker 1: whose careers is like to to write those like Morning
Speaker 1: Zoo bits like I don't know if you've heard like
Speaker 1: another parts of the country you'll just hear random comedy
Speaker 1: bits And what the funk was that there those writer's rooms.
Speaker 1: Salute to that, you know, doing the I guess the
Speaker 1: lord's work. But yeah, I felt especially strong kinship with
Speaker 1: like a Morning Zoo parody song writer with with the
Speaker 1: Nancy Reagan blowjob reference. Yeah, yeah, I feel like that
Speaker 1: is uh that could literally be pulled from a Morning
Speaker 1: Zoo shoot. I just like how I was off the
Speaker 1: internet for two days because I was at a wedding,
Speaker 1: and then I come back to why are people calling
Speaker 1: Nancy Reagan the throat Goat? And I'm like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is happening. I turned my back on the computer
Speaker 1: for fucking forty eight hours, and I woke up and
Speaker 1: saw my phone and like, I was like, why are
Speaker 1: people talking about Nancy Reagan? And I literally shouted to
Speaker 1: my fiance to like in the other room. I was like,
Speaker 1: why are people tweeting about Nancy Reagan? And he just
Speaker 1: started laughing so loudly. Wait what Wait? What did happen? Though?
Speaker 1: I just know that she was being talked about, and
Speaker 1: I just saw a throat goat and I said, I
Speaker 1: don't have time. So Ben Shapiro's sister tweeted about like
Speaker 1: something to the event. She put a picture of Madonna
Speaker 1: at sixty eight next to a picture of Nancy Reagan
Speaker 1: at six and was like, Madonnas a piece of trash.
Speaker 1: This is like what conservativism is all about. And then
Speaker 1: somebody replied and was like, oh, you should check out
Speaker 1: this Kitty Kelly biography of Nancy Reagan Na Davis and
Speaker 1: how her she had made a name for herself for
Speaker 1: giving really good blow jobs on the MGM lot, Like
Speaker 1: that was that was her kind of calling card for
Speaker 1: a while before before Ronnie. And I think that's like
Speaker 1: implied that that's how she met him because he was
Speaker 1: an actor on the m JAM lot. Right. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like it's a wonderful meat cute. Yeah, and look at them, Taylor,
Speaker 1: as old as time and then you completely destroy the
Speaker 1: eighties just a fabric of American society. Yeah, exactly, Ali,
Speaker 1: you are first rate guest on our second rate podcast.
Speaker 1: How's it going with the with the Morning Show? That's
Speaker 1: the that's the show's golden globe today, Jesus, No big deal,
Speaker 1: No big deal. Although I feel like the Golden globes,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's like controversy surrounding them now. But
Speaker 1: we dig a nominated, which was cool. Season two was
Speaker 1: all out now yeah, and super fun to have to
Speaker 1: have written for. I mean, we've shotted during COVID, so
Speaker 1: I was not on set the way I was for
Speaker 1: season one, everyone having an iPad to watch about. But
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's very very fun season and I think
Speaker 1: they're just figuring out season three now. Cool, very cool. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: we are Team Golden Globes here in this household. My
Speaker 1: mom's on the board and full disclosure, and I've honestly
Speaker 1: to be honest, like I've watching the coverage of it.
Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting because in a way, I
Speaker 1: feel like the industry has found a way to escapegoat
Speaker 1: a group of foreign journalists by saying, like, where are
Speaker 1: the black journalists in this group? Where the qualifications to
Speaker 1: be in the h f p A s you you're
Speaker 1: published in a foreign country and you also live in
Speaker 1: the United States. So there are like many I think
Speaker 1: diverse journalists in like like in many countries that you know,
Speaker 1: they that are writing about film, but this, but the
Speaker 1: qualifications to be in the h f p A is
Speaker 1: then from Okay, are you foreign published and you're living
Speaker 1: in the United States. I think that shrinks the universe
Speaker 1: down well, also like disregarding like many members who like
Speaker 1: my mother who's from Japan and or others from like
Speaker 1: South America. And second, where's the diversity here? I like
Speaker 1: this very American lens, and I do think that they
Speaker 1: really should be helping to facilitate more journalists to say,
Speaker 1: for example, be like I would love to do that,
Speaker 1: but it's just impossible for me to move to the
Speaker 1: United States, get a visa, to have a job, to
Speaker 1: stay here for a long time, that you can have
Speaker 1: an endowment to like actually do that. But then I
Speaker 1: feel like we've completely avoided a much larger investigation or
Speaker 1: examination of the industry. The PETE, like the publicist machinery
Speaker 1: that we have, how they protect the lack of diversity overall,
Speaker 1: like that exists within the industry. So yes, while it
Speaker 1: is I think on paper looks one way. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of the coverage has stripped a lot of
Speaker 1: the nuance, just generally on how the industry as a
Speaker 1: whole could be improved without just saying like, hey man,
Speaker 1: the golden globes, huh. Anyway, don't look at our c suites,
Speaker 1: don't look at the people in development positions, don't look
Speaker 1: at the people who are directing, you know. And I
Speaker 1: think that's where I get a little emotional. But other
Speaker 1: than that, grets So I think, well deserved, Oh well,
Speaker 1: thank you. I do agree with you like award though, yeah,
Speaker 1: well we're thrilled, But I think that you are right
Speaker 1: where it's like there it's easy to hold up the
Speaker 1: golden globes. It's like, look at what this is bad.
Speaker 1: This is bad, but we can still go to the Oscars,
Speaker 1: the EMM these are cool. Like there is this issue
Speaker 1: where it's like there isn't one award show that is
Speaker 1: particularly good at analyzing diversity in Hollywood and actually getting
Speaker 1: to the crux of the issue. And a lot of
Speaker 1: times these studios use the award shows to celebrate their
Speaker 1: commitment to diversity. And at the same time, these are
Speaker 1: the same studios that are treating their assistance like crap
Speaker 1: under painting people making sure budgets are as low as possible,
Speaker 1: so the people who are less, who have the least
Speaker 1: protection fundset, get the worst treatments, the worst hours that
Speaker 1: were salary. Like, there's so many deep issues of diversity
Speaker 1: that the studios actually need to confront and instead a
Speaker 1: lot of times they'll use an award show to have
Speaker 1: a very performative celebration of diversity in terms of talent.
Speaker 1: But there are so many deeper issues that need to
Speaker 1: be analyzed. So I do think that the sort of
Speaker 1: filification of the Golden Clobes is I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: definitely not Ye that's a little pet Yeah, And I think,
Speaker 1: but it's it's like anything, right, even in politics, there's
Speaker 1: always the sort of revolving door, the villain du jour
Speaker 1: that sort of helps stop the conversation about going further
Speaker 1: to have a real reckoning, Like it's so easy to
Speaker 1: just blame Joe Manchin and Kirsten Cinema a lack of
Speaker 1: the infrastructure moves, but that now allows the conversation to
Speaker 1: only be about that and not like much larger layers
Speaker 1: of control and influence that really need to be assessed.
Speaker 1: All that to say, great, what a day. All that
Speaker 1: to say congratulation, congratulations, I mean, I think we covered
Speaker 1: everything right there. I don't think we over kind of
Speaker 1: the big problem. All right, we are going to get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment, Alle,
Speaker 1: But first we're gonna tell our listeners a few of
Speaker 1: the things we're talking about. We're just gonna check him
Speaker 1: with rand Paul, who is famously hates disaster relief, is
Speaker 1: just on record, fuck disaster relief. Oh you need disaster,
Speaker 1: fuck you pay me. Is kind of where he comes
Speaker 1: in on that, except now he wants disaster relief, which
Speaker 1: he absolutely she had. It was a fucking horrifying weekend
Speaker 1: in Kentucky. So we will talk about that it has
Speaker 1: been made official. We now can officially, you know, look
Speaker 1: up to Elon Musk as our greatest person. Time magazine
Speaker 1: has named him Person of the Year. So yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna read the first couple of paragraphs of
Speaker 1: that article just because I just want to see where
Speaker 1: we're at as a culture. The darkest thing is I
Speaker 1: actually think they got that right, Like I think that's
Speaker 1: the right pick. Not like he's the best person, but
Speaker 1: that he is like the person who makes sense for
Speaker 1: our time to choose as their person of the year.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. We'll look at how Fox
Speaker 1: News is getting ready for the new Reich. Chris Wallace left,
Speaker 1: so we'll we'll see, we'll see what's going on there.
Speaker 1: We will look at the big hockey game fundraiser. Before
Speaker 1: it was like feel good, watch these teachers get donations
Speaker 1: for school supplies, and it's just like one of those
Speaker 1: details it would be great, a great detail in a
Speaker 1: futuristic dystopia, and it happened this weekend and people are like,
Speaker 1: that's so nice, right, So we'll talk about that all
Speaker 1: that plenty more. But first Ali we do like to
Speaker 1: ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
Speaker 1: You know, I just looked as I was getting ready
Speaker 1: for this and it's about six articles on the Succession finale.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now there's a spoiler that I, uh, I
Speaker 1: actually don't give a ship. When it started, you fell asleep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was so tight again. I came back from a wedding.
Speaker 1: I had to finish the last episode, and I was
Speaker 1: watching with my partner, Her Majesty, and we were just
Speaker 1: speculating what happened to Jeremy Strong on that float. She's like,
Speaker 1: is he just he just died on that thing? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. I mean, like, if they did,
Speaker 1: they really didn't see that well enough for me to
Speaker 1: believe that he was like an addict to the point
Speaker 1: where he was gonna, you know, sort of perish in
Speaker 1: a shallow, sort of face down floaty death. All that
Speaker 1: to say, I have not seen it yet, so many
Speaker 1: questions will be answered about this season. And when I
Speaker 1: watched it later today, yeah, I like that seated it
Speaker 1: well enough. I think I could totally buy that. But okay, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I think that's why that episode was so
Speaker 1: like compelling to people because it's like it really could
Speaker 1: go either way, Like I feel like they've built to it,
Speaker 1: and on the other hand, it's like shocking and would
Speaker 1: be like surprising in so many ways, but also like
Speaker 1: very like the kind of show that is Prestige TV,
Speaker 1: where they're like, oh, you think everyone can just fucking live?
Speaker 1: Everything is temporary, They're gone, Well, I will say the finale.
Speaker 1: They stick the landing every fucking season like it's just
Speaker 1: so good. Like I won't say any spoilers except I
Speaker 1: did watch it at like midnight and then stayed up
Speaker 1: far too late reading everything I could find about it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: penultimate episode of season Three's that's when we've lost some
Speaker 1: of some of the greats in the history of TV.
Speaker 1: Your spoiler alert, your stringer, Bill you're oh, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm kind that was who else? I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: one that sticks out. It's the red wedding episode. I
Speaker 1: think it was. I think so too. I could be wrong,
Speaker 1: but in your faces, I mean, okay, no, I just
Speaker 1: didn't know what I didn't know we were talking about.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think those are always the That's what
Speaker 1: I love about a show when they they don't like
Speaker 1: there's no such thing as like sentimentality around a character,
Speaker 1: and it's for the purely for this is the story
Speaker 1: we're telling. They don't live, Okay, deal with it. What
Speaker 1: is something you think is overrated out New Year's Eve?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be my answer here, Like there's never for me,
Speaker 1: Like there's hardly ever a good New Year's Eve, because
Speaker 1: the expectations when you're young are like so high, like
Speaker 1: you wanted to be like the best sign of your life,
Speaker 1: a huge party the next day's jin where first like
Speaker 1: you have all these expectations where all this change that's
Speaker 1: going to magically happen, and like it's there's so much
Speaker 1: build to it, and because of that, you're either like
Speaker 1: drastically disappointed or it's just like fine. I feel like
Speaker 1: last year, even celebrating New Year's Eve in COVID, we
Speaker 1: just like made a nice dinner and like had a
Speaker 1: night's night in and you're still sort of like sad
Speaker 1: that you don't get to go out. But when you
Speaker 1: do go out, I feel like it's either like every
Speaker 1: you're either way too drunk or like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just feel like there's so much build around New
Speaker 1: Year's Eve and this year, I'm like trying to just
Speaker 1: do something like get some friends and like go to
Speaker 1: an airby in me or like take a trip or
Speaker 1: like do something that's like takes the pressure off, trying
Speaker 1: to like just wait around and hope there's like some
Speaker 1: party that is gonna make twenty two the best year
Speaker 1: of your life, right, I mean on the other side
Speaker 1: of spectrum. Last year I went to like a warehouse
Speaker 1: rave and that also wasn't that great well shut down
Speaker 1: by because it was illegal. Yeah, it was illegal. The
Speaker 1: power was cut off to the entire neighborhood halfway through.
Speaker 1: And but but you can't let the government tell you
Speaker 1: what to do. Go ahead, New Year's I know. It's truly,
Speaker 1: it's unlike succession finale is very hard to stick the
Speaker 1: landing when you when you release yourself from the parallel
Speaker 1: bars of planning the New Year's Eve night, because yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always like you think it's gonna go one way.
Speaker 1: Then one of your friends gets like morbidly drunk, and
Speaker 1: it's like, well, now this person is in that dire
Speaker 1: emergency and now that New Year's Eve, or someone fucking
Speaker 1: breaks up like on the way there, and you have
Speaker 1: one like morose friend who's like, can we fucking group me? Like,
Speaker 1: oh fuck? Or you end up spending way too much
Speaker 1: money at some stupid like back when I would do
Speaker 1: the when I was younger and doing that Hollywood kids ship,
Speaker 1: be like you're going to get a bottle over, here's
Speaker 1: gonna be litle cut too. You spent too much money,
Speaker 1: you had you didn't meet anyone because despite your idea
Speaker 1: of buying a bottle of champagne, it doesn't make up
Speaker 1: for your lack of communication skills with potential romantic partners.
Speaker 1: So I always like to do like the home, low
Speaker 1: key home thing. I think has been the one consistent
Speaker 1: sort of version of it where we can doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be a rager, but it's more about having a
Speaker 1: good time, you know, yeah, totally. I feel like the
Speaker 1: real villain here is just expectations, like too high expectations.
Speaker 1: That movie two Year's Eve. Uh have you seen the
Speaker 1: one that? No, but isn't that the one that had
Speaker 1: everyone in it? It's when they were like love actually worked.
Speaker 1: Let's try the six more times for holidays St. Patrick's
Speaker 1: there is a Valentine to Day for sure. I think
Speaker 1: Seth Myers isn't it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a classic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think low key has been like I
Speaker 1: have only started enjoying New Year's Eve since having kids
Speaker 1: and like having all pressure taken off to do anything.
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, yeah, that's why. Like in Japan it's
Speaker 1: nice too, like we we get together New Year's Day,
Speaker 1: like like on New Year's Eve. It's not a it's
Speaker 1: not like yo, you're gonna while out at midnight like
Speaker 1: people like, it's just whatever day, the day is, the
Speaker 1: next day, the next following few days to just be
Speaker 1: at home, don't leave. You've like pre made all this
Speaker 1: food so no one has to do anything and you
Speaker 1: just really just veg out with the family. And there's
Speaker 1: always ridiculous New Year's for like New Year's specials on TV.
Speaker 1: Most of the time when people see like viral clips
Speaker 1: of Japanese television, it's typically a New Year's special where
Speaker 1: they're just doing all kinds of wild stuff for celebrities
Speaker 1: show up to do like something weird. So yeah, we
Speaker 1: should do an episode soon about like the other countries
Speaker 1: that have like better holiday traditions, just so our listeners
Speaker 1: can steal them, because that sounds so much better than yeah, well,
Speaker 1: because everything kind of ends up being like about consumerism
Speaker 1: on some level, you know, like and not to say
Speaker 1: that eating a ton isn't, but it's like in our
Speaker 1: minds we have this like it's a party, man, Like
Speaker 1: you're gonna put on a fancy dress, and it's like
Speaker 1: you've got to do some next level shit for New
Speaker 1: Year's more than saying like, hey, it's been a whole year,
Speaker 1: like let's check in with everybody. And I guess like
Speaker 1: another version of Thanksgiving really, but yeah, it's like here,
Speaker 1: it's like the years over, like let's just get so
Speaker 1: drunk and like celebrate the past year. And I feel
Speaker 1: like what you're talking about. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is accurate for like but how it is in Japan,
Speaker 1: but like it's a celebration of the new year of
Speaker 1: like it's a new year, it's the first of January,
Speaker 1: Like let's celebrate today how we want to spend our year.
Speaker 1: And like exactly, like that's how I'm trying to shift
Speaker 1: it in my mind of like whatever I'm doing in
Speaker 1: New Years, it's just like a good way to like
Speaker 1: introduce my next year of my life. And like maybe
Speaker 1: I don't need to be like violently hungover on that day. America,
Speaker 1: New Years is like all about cognitive dissonance with like
Speaker 1: just treating yourself like absolute ship while being like this year,
Speaker 1: I'm going to treat myself incredibly well, oh my god.
Speaker 1: But that's like that's and just unrealistic ideals about self
Speaker 1: challenged listening. Imagine you you wake up on the first
Speaker 1: without a fucking hangover, and you don't spend that your
Speaker 1: first waking hours of a new year going like what
Speaker 1: the fund did I do? Try? You know, like in Japan,
Speaker 1: like you want to go and you want to greet
Speaker 1: the first sunrise of the new year. That's like a
Speaker 1: huge thing, so like in a way you have to
Speaker 1: be on top of your ship to wake up for
Speaker 1: the fucking sunrise and then start your Here, I thought
Speaker 1: you're gonna to imagine dragons. What what is something you
Speaker 1: think is underrated? There are so many things I think
Speaker 1: are underrated. Like I was thinking about rain in l
Speaker 1: A and how everyone plans about the rain and how
Speaker 1: the rain is like my favorite thing, and then I,
Speaker 1: you know, then I had this moment yesterday that I
Speaker 1: really cherished, which was when I went to the bathroom
Speaker 1: at a restaurant and I came back and my food
Speaker 1: was there, and I was like, is there a better
Speaker 1: feeling in the world best, especially like sometimes you you'll
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom hoping that that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, man, I thought it would be here
Speaker 1: fun and I'm just gonna go to the bathroom and
Speaker 1: maybe that will be the Yeah, like you're maybe can
Speaker 1: sort of catalyze the delivery by going to trying of
Speaker 1: like will it into the universe by lady to come
Speaker 1: back it's not there, and you're like, actually, sorry, I
Speaker 1: forgot to. I guess I forgot. Rain in l A
Speaker 1: is like a phenomenon that like I was not aware
Speaker 1: of until I started living out here. But the air
Speaker 1: is because it's usually so dry. The air is like
Speaker 1: thick with dust and smug and but it's like a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, just everything is is dusty. The
Speaker 1: reason that like you know, road cruise need a truck
Speaker 1: out there to like spray down the dust so that
Speaker 1: it's you know, there's just no water, so the dust
Speaker 1: is like hanging in the air. And then like you
Speaker 1: don't realize that like everything is like being like you're
Speaker 1: you're seeing everything through like a a screen of haze.
Speaker 1: And then it rains and like the air is like
Speaker 1: cleaned out of all of that, and it's like suddenly
Speaker 1: like five times prettier, and you're like, what have I
Speaker 1: been inhaling? Yeah exactly, dude, Like air quality in l A.
Speaker 1: I obsess over it in like an unhealthy way, probably,
Speaker 1: but we all are inhaling, Like it's just like the
Speaker 1: pollution is insane. I think clean air is another underrated
Speaker 1: thing because like when I go to New York where
Speaker 1: my family lives, I'm just like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is how I'm supposed to breathe, Like my skin is better.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, so when it rains, it's just like a
Speaker 1: sweet in l A. It's like a sweet day of
Speaker 1: just like incredible air quality and also just the rain.
Speaker 1: It's like so like needed, like and it's just like
Speaker 1: the way the plants react to it, like it's just
Speaker 1: like to have a gloomy l A day's I mean,
Speaker 1: I grew up in the East Coast, so I love
Speaker 1: like the snow, I love rain, and I love like
Speaker 1: just whether that changes. Yeah, oh I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, the rain is like to your point about
Speaker 1: like how we desk like we actually the earth around
Speaker 1: here needs it. It really is, like it's like that
Speaker 1: sip of water in the middle of a hangover, like
Speaker 1: in the middle of a yeah, and like that's how
Speaker 1: the sit, like the plants react like oh fucking thank God.
Speaker 1: So I do, like in some weird way, I feel
Speaker 1: the same. I'm like, oh, yeah, it's good because the
Speaker 1: earth needs this right now. It's like the Mad Max
Speaker 1: scene when he releases the water Fawcett and and like
Speaker 1: I just like, thanks, thank heavens. Yeah, yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about rand Paul. Unfortunately, and we're back, and just
Speaker 1: a horrifying weekend in Kentucky, Missouri, Illinois, Arkansas, and Tennessee,
Speaker 1: particularly Kentucky. Eighty people I think, I mean eighty people total.
Speaker 1: I think I think about sixty four in Kentucky at
Speaker 1: the moment. Yeah, we're we're killed in sixty four in
Speaker 1: Kentucky and uh yeah, just horrifying that devastation. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. It's just another reminder that
Speaker 1: we need help. We need a safety system there in
Speaker 1: place to help people and you know, combat pollution. You
Speaker 1: know what do that part two? And yeah, I'm bringing
Speaker 1: up rand Paul because the you know, he he he
Speaker 1: wrote this letter to Joe Biden that's like demanding like
Speaker 1: disaster relief for the state, as if he's like Trump,
Speaker 1: you know, like because as if Joe Biden's like, would
Speaker 1: you just sweep up all your tornado causing leaves or
Speaker 1: like whatever, you know, Trump would like condition aid on,
Speaker 1: like did you vote for this? Well, then maybe you're
Speaker 1: not a human who has been in a disaster. So
Speaker 1: the way he wrote his quote last night and early
Speaker 1: this morning, devastating storm swept across multiple states, including kidsucking,
Speaker 1: just sort of goes on, not really asking for the relief,
Speaker 1: but merely like demanding is like I'm urgently, you know,
Speaker 1: suggesting that you you know, listen to the governor's plea
Speaker 1: for assistance. You know. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: were just like, oh wow, it's very rich because again,
Speaker 1: this is someone who regularly votes against disaster relief, like
Speaker 1: to the point where you like, do you think nothing
Speaker 1: will ever happen to the Commonwealth of Kentucky that might
Speaker 1: warrant the need for disaster relief? Like in he was like, well,
Speaker 1: when the hurricane was going off in New Jersey, New York.
Speaker 1: He was like accusing Chris Christie is just like sort
Speaker 1: of being greedy and just trying to get his hands
Speaker 1: on money. And it's like also voted against like giving
Speaker 1: FEMA fucking money, so their budgets were like intact. So
Speaker 1: it was just a very odd turn where suddenly the
Speaker 1: person who regularly acts like he doesn't need anything has
Speaker 1: like this very you know, demanding attitude, hostile attitude, and
Speaker 1: like along alongside it, I think we also saw a
Speaker 1: lot of takes on like Twitter, especially of people like
Speaker 1: sort of laughing at Kentucky because like, you voted for
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell, and it's like kind of a similar thing
Speaker 1: like when Texas had their blackouts, like suddenly, especially if
Speaker 1: like many like you know, big d Democrat liberal Twitter
Speaker 1: accounts are like ha ha ha, and like this is
Speaker 1: don't replay the same like nonsense, like at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you please refocus everything to understand that
Speaker 1: people are fucking people and in a disaster, like they
Speaker 1: need to be helped. Don't don't condition that, and like, well,
Speaker 1: you voted for Mitch McConnell, therefore, and I get that
Speaker 1: you think that it's it's antithetical to somebody to vote
Speaker 1: for people who are regularly passing legislation that you know,
Speaker 1: our existential threats to them. But on some level, when
Speaker 1: you're looking at things like this, I don't know how
Speaker 1: like you look at that and go, yeah, if I
Speaker 1: was in that situation, I want people to like laugh
Speaker 1: at who's the governor of my state or something? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think empathy is probably the way to go on
Speaker 1: any any of these. They didn't in general. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's I think it's such a gross take
Speaker 1: seeing that on Twitter from like liberals and like it's
Speaker 1: as if there's this disconnect from the fact, like like
Speaker 1: there's this idea that of the people in Kentucky voted
Speaker 1: for Mitch McConnell, so they deserve this, and that's like,
Speaker 1: actually not how our system will works, And a lot
Speaker 1: of people didn't vote for Minch McConnell, and the Democrats
Speaker 1: put up spent all their money on Amy McGrath when
Speaker 1: Charles Booker was like an amazing candidate. Like there's so
Speaker 1: many other political things happening and none of that ship
Speaker 1: actually matters. Like what matters is just that people are
Speaker 1: dying and they deserve relief, and Rand Paul is also
Speaker 1: an idiot, and the point of the government is to
Speaker 1: help the people. So I think release eight is a
Speaker 1: good idea and disasters. The fact that he's like putting
Speaker 1: it in the tone of like that this is partisan politics,
Speaker 1: like that this is an episode of crossfire and he's
Speaker 1: like debating Joe Biden on whether or not to send
Speaker 1: the aid is pretty silly. Yeah, And I think just
Speaker 1: in general, people and think again speaks to the polarization
Speaker 1: that's happening because on you know, in both registered voters
Speaker 1: of both parties still are defaulting to like, well, they're
Speaker 1: not real people sort of thing. And I think that's
Speaker 1: precisely why we're kind of in the state that we're in.
Speaker 1: When I think you'd hope that sort of the first
Speaker 1: response out of people who seemingly think they're people of
Speaker 1: goodwill would be empathy to say that is so fucked up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we need to help them otherwise. But then it's just
Speaker 1: more a reflection like, well they laugh when bad things
Speaker 1: happen in these other states. Well, that's that's how they
Speaker 1: choose to look at the world. That's not that's not
Speaker 1: how we're going to get through anything. We actually have
Speaker 1: to work together, and you're seeing that in all these
Speaker 1: states like very quickly. You know, I think parties in
Speaker 1: ideologies begin to sort of disappear, like in the face
Speaker 1: of a disaster like that, and you're seeing people in
Speaker 1: all these states really you know, having to help each other.
Speaker 1: If there's a partisan angle to it, I would like,
Speaker 1: not that I think there is, But if I was
Speaker 1: like desperate to make a take on Twitter, like I
Speaker 1: think it would be like, Wow, look how Ramda Paul
Speaker 1: the government that you've elected in your state is not
Speaker 1: helping you, Like that's really sad. Like there's other people
Speaker 1: who want to help you, Like I feel like that
Speaker 1: is like maybe the only way in and like but again,
Speaker 1: like I don't think it matters, Like I think all
Speaker 1: that matters is that people are say if and we
Speaker 1: look out for each other when people are dying circumstances
Speaker 1: that they can't control, Yeah, I think yeah, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: the pandemic sort of blew open how America is going
Speaker 1: to respond to things like things that are out of
Speaker 1: people's control, where people needlessly lose their lives or there
Speaker 1: could be ways to keep people safe. Is immediately turns
Speaker 1: into a like, well, that's how those people think they're
Speaker 1: gonna stay safe, and that's how we think we're gonna
Speaker 1: stay safe, and that I think that's continuing deterioration of
Speaker 1: that is you know, I hope to blunt that momentum,
Speaker 1: but we shall see. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point
Speaker 1: that we I guess I shouldn't be surprised when they're
Speaker 1: politicizing a tornado that killed you know, ninety people, when
Speaker 1: they politicized something that killed more people than all American
Speaker 1: wars combined. So all onto better news. Our our hero
Speaker 1: has been officially coronated by the mainstream media. Time has
Speaker 1: announced their person of the Year Elon Musk. Baby, And
Speaker 1: I just want to read the opening paragraph because I
Speaker 1: think it's like a perfect tone poem for like what
Speaker 1: for our current moment and just the feeling I get
Speaker 1: when people quote Elon Musk to me, which and also
Speaker 1: when people attribute quotes by smarter people to Elon Musk,
Speaker 1: which I've seen it happen a couple of times. All Right,
Speaker 1: here's here's how it opens. The richest man in the
Speaker 1: world does not own a house and has recently been
Speaker 1: selling off his fortune. So he's basically like a hero,
Speaker 1: a philanthropist. He tosses satellites into orbit and harnesses the sun.
Speaker 1: He drives a car he created that uses no gas
Speaker 1: and barely needs a driver. With a flick of his finger.
Speaker 1: The stock market soars or swoons. An army of devotes
Speaker 1: hangs on his every utterance. He dreams of Mars as
Speaker 1: he bestrides Earth, square, jawed and indomitable. Lately, HeLa musk
Speaker 1: also live, likes to live, tweet his poops. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: is no say less time say less. We get it.
Speaker 1: That is that is our person of the year. Right,
Speaker 1: those opening sentences really just the way that they're like
Speaker 1: making like he doesn't own a house. He's been selling
Speaker 1: off his fortune. Like the awe that we're supposed to
Speaker 1: feel from these statements is he's a real people's hero. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's the richest person in the history of the fucking planet.
Speaker 1: Kind of him to sell his fortune all the other
Speaker 1: things you could do with it. I'm so happy that
Speaker 1: he's selling it and hustled money right to earn money
Speaker 1: from exactly. Yeah, he's so he sold his stuff for money.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we love him. What about what like no, oh,
Speaker 1: my god, there's so many issues I have with this
Speaker 1: opening line and every other line in it, but please Jack,
Speaker 1: give us more. They treat the so the comedy thing
Speaker 1: is one of the like just things that upsets me
Speaker 1: the most because people because he treats himself as like
Speaker 1: a serious, like funny person, like people treat him as
Speaker 1: that and that's what. So that's where it goes from
Speaker 1: the Lately La Musk likes to live tweet his poops,
Speaker 1: they say the next paragraph, just dropping some friends off
Speaker 1: at the pool, The fifth year old zillionaire informed his
Speaker 1: sixty six million Twitter followers on the evening of November
Speaker 1: twenty nine, having previously advised that at least half his
Speaker 1: tweets were made on a porcelain throne. After an interval
Speaker 1: twenty one minutes. If you must know an update, split
Speaker 1: splash and then this is Elon's response. Sometimes I do
Speaker 1: hit some resonant notes with respect to humor. M So
Speaker 1: I guess he's saying, like, I fucking nailed it with that?
Speaker 1: Is that? What is that? How I translate that? He's like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I am pretty fucking funny. Sometimes it's like
Speaker 1: a C three po version of the sentence. I nailed it,
Speaker 1: like it's like it was not written by our human
Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't hit some resonent notes with respect to
Speaker 1: humor jokes. As you know, brevity is the soul of wit,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I do hit some resonant notes with respect
Speaker 1: to humor. Okay, Yeah, I don't know like I got
Speaker 1: I don't think I have the like life in me
Speaker 1: to continue to read from the article. But like they
Speaker 1: just really fucking love him, as does everybody. I think
Speaker 1: they got it right, like with this pick, because I like,
Speaker 1: was Trump the person last year? Wasn't? Like don't they
Speaker 1: normally try to pick like controversial people. I think Biden
Speaker 1: was the person, yeah, which we didn't even know if
Speaker 1: he was gonna win at that point, right, I mean
Speaker 1: that the election was Yeah, I guess if you're saying, like,
Speaker 1: stop the steel in that sense, you know, I'm always saying,
Speaker 1: you know, that's the subtext of everything I said, is
Speaker 1: stop the fucking steel. Bro. No, h was joint Kamala
Speaker 1: and Joe and then Greta Thunberg. Yeah was Trump? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they just picked the winner whenever an election happens. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know like this They're used to
Speaker 1: like I like to think of like celebrities and like brands,
Speaker 1: and like I thought like Einstein had the market cornered
Speaker 1: for like smart quotes, Like people would attribute anything they
Speaker 1: thought was smart to Einstein. They'd be like Einstein actually
Speaker 1: once said and then like fucking tell you something that
Speaker 1: was in like a Kurtbonna get book or something. But
Speaker 1: like now I'm thing that happen with Elon Musk, Like
Speaker 1: he's our new like smart guy, super genius, and I
Speaker 1: think that's a step down because his intelligence is also
Speaker 1: paired with like globe destroying, fucking privilege and greed. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. And the people who are like into
Speaker 1: him are always like you know, people who aspire to
Speaker 1: be billionaires. I feel like not all of them, but
Speaker 1: for I don't think anyone who I know who's an
Speaker 1: Elon Musk stand has a happiness or fulfillment as like
Speaker 1: they're guiding principle. I don't. It's like it's like this
Speaker 1: sort of thing of like I'm the fucking smartest guy
Speaker 1: with all the money is sort of like and that's
Speaker 1: is that what you need to feel good? Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't know. You've never heard you say anything about your
Speaker 1: own your own needs as a person. But that's okay.
Speaker 1: We'll we'll map that onto Evon and hope that that
Speaker 1: will solve everything. It's like they can see him from
Speaker 1: a disconnect, that there's a disconnect between our actual worlds
Speaker 1: that he participates in, and it's yes, and like a
Speaker 1: character in a movie like, oh, I want to be
Speaker 1: like rich, like that guy. I want to be like
Speaker 1: have a zillion dollars like this guy, although I do
Speaker 1: think a zillion. In the article is like really, like
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say bad journalism, but I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: like disrespectful to the fact. It's just like he has
Speaker 1: a zillion dollars. This isn't a real amount. It's fake.
Speaker 1: And it's like, no, actually he has this amount of money.
Speaker 1: This is a problem. He won't let his workers unionize.
Speaker 1: And then you say, like he's like selling off his
Speaker 1: money and how cool is that? Like this is actually
Speaker 1: there's a lot of issues with joking about his money
Speaker 1: to me. Um, now I don't even remember what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. Oh that people like look at him
Speaker 1: in this vacuum as like in the character in a movie,
Speaker 1: have fun and cool is he? But in our actual
Speaker 1: world that we live in. He's actively destroying it and
Speaker 1: like causing so much environmental damage and could just probably
Speaker 1: fixed climate change with the amount of money he has.
Speaker 1: And there's like a disconnect from like the actual awful
Speaker 1: actions he's taking and how or they just don't care.
Speaker 1: And it's like, Okay, well, if you want to be
Speaker 1: the next Eland must like you also need a world
Speaker 1: to exist in to do that, So I'll buy enough
Speaker 1: rocket ships. Defference guys, thinking man's a wash. Also like
Speaker 1: calling him like square j square jawed and indomitable is
Speaker 1: like straight up that's how Super Marols described And I
Speaker 1: want to know how. I want to know how many
Speaker 1: revision passes? Yeah did he write this? There's no mention
Speaker 1: of his new haircut in it, and I feel like
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yah, his fast wave haircut. Yeah, very
Speaker 1: very aggressive haircut. Yeah, alright, well real quick. Chris Wallace
Speaker 1: has left Fox News. It was a surprise announcement at
Speaker 1: the end of his UH Sunday show. He's apparently going
Speaker 1: to CNN Plus, which is CNN subscription service that will
Speaker 1: I think pete to be the least subscribed to service
Speaker 1: of any sort that that anyone has ever launched, but
Speaker 1: maybe not. I just I don't I don't understand why
Speaker 1: you would subscribe to that instead of just he c
Speaker 1: n n on talking about whatever. But anyways, I I
Speaker 1: don't know the behind the scenes machinations. I do think
Speaker 1: we are seeing broadly, like people positioning for like the
Speaker 1: fourth Reich that is going to be out in the
Speaker 1: open white supremacy and fascism starting around election. And you know,
Speaker 1: Fox is putting themselves in in position to no longer
Speaker 1: really have that critical kind of news focused side of things,
Speaker 1: and you know, just be full Tucker Carlson ledge. I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess like his Tucker Carlson's Patriot Purge documentary and quotes.
Speaker 1: It was something that Chris Wallace had criticized, and so
Speaker 1: that that might have ledged to this it. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's had the unfortunate distinction of being like the one
Speaker 1: of the few people who would like would try to
Speaker 1: acknowledge like some level of how bad ship was with
Speaker 1: Trump and being objected like should a president do that?
Speaker 1: They're like, Okay, you fucking Democrats, get the funk out
Speaker 1: of here, and it's like, let's just say that's a
Speaker 1: real question. And yeah, I mean, I think it's it's
Speaker 1: really I think the fact that you have these sort
Speaker 1: of challengers to the throne in like oh a n
Speaker 1: and Newsmax, that's pulling them even further off the ledge
Speaker 1: because they're seeing that they were like hemorrhaging viewers to
Speaker 1: like Newsmax in certain like time time slots. And that's
Speaker 1: only bad for Fox quote unquote News because yeah, like
Speaker 1: as you see, Tucker Carlson isn't slowing down. R Ingram's
Speaker 1: not slowing down. It's just getting further and further into
Speaker 1: their sort of you know, white dominated fantasy world fascism
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, exactly. But I think that's I
Speaker 1: think people they're going to be surprised by how much
Speaker 1: a second Trump administration is. Like the lesson they will
Speaker 1: have learned is to just get rid of like anything
Speaker 1: resembling breaks on the Trump train and just go like
Speaker 1: full unadulterated like authoritarianism and fully like trying to make
Speaker 1: adjustments while he's in office to keep him in office
Speaker 1: and you know, make it so that he can't be
Speaker 1: voted out. So that's I think where we're headed. But
Speaker 1: hopefully CNN plus can save us, and N plus will
Speaker 1: get us our voting rights restored. Right. I definitely think
Speaker 1: cable news is what's going to save us. I'm glad
Speaker 1: because that's what I'm hoping. Person of the Year, how
Speaker 1: they told us the truth about Joe Biden. Thank you, Like,
Speaker 1: oh God, focusing on all the right story raise all
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, yeah, Time person of the Year will
Speaker 1: be like Donald Trump presents Time Person of the year,
Speaker 1: like dark Time person of the year. This year's Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Who's like the next person of the year, the next
Speaker 1: most personist of the year. I mean it's got to
Speaker 1: be Avonka, right, I'm not the only one who feels
Speaker 1: like it's got to be Alonka to suck full of
Speaker 1: loose bullets, Joe Rogan, Yeah, no, it's really dark. I'm
Speaker 1: just hoping there's something in that week that can happen
Speaker 1: that can prevent a Trump and I hope that's like
Speaker 1: the Democrats are able to at some point do things
Speaker 1: for people that really affect their day to day lives
Speaker 1: and in a positive way, so we can just avoid
Speaker 1: total fucking utter disaster in two years. Yeah, the data
Speaker 1: set and not looking too good, right, but we've gotta
Speaker 1: keep our eyes peeled and like yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: more and more. I hopefully more and more people actually
Speaker 1: get in touch with how Die or the situation, especially
Speaker 1: as it relates to like election boards, like you're already
Speaker 1: seeing like Georgia they're purging black members of elect county
Speaker 1: election boards. It's it's like it's they're they're very much
Speaker 1: fully positioning themselves to be able to flip a switch
Speaker 1: and just say like, no, man, the winners, whoever the
Speaker 1: funk we say it is, and you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: fucking accept that. And I think that's I don't think
Speaker 1: that reality has been communicated properly in the news. Two people.
Speaker 1: It's just always like wow, like they're doing a lot
Speaker 1: of news like a voter suppression right and saying like,
Speaker 1: hold the funk on this idea that you live in
Speaker 1: a country where you could go and vote. I mean
Speaker 1: even now, I mean many way would argue, you know, what,
Speaker 1: what what good does it do? Now? But even further so,
Speaker 1: we're talking about just absolute vapor wear and they're you know,
Speaker 1: even less accountability. Is that a fucking situation you want
Speaker 1: to be in? I mean it's already bad enough now,
Speaker 1: and to go deeper down that whole I think is
Speaker 1: a reality that I think Americans aren't able to fathom
Speaker 1: because voting has always been like a thing that's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you vote, and then like, whoever get some most votes
Speaker 1: you win? Since you're in school, are doing like school
Speaker 1: elections as a kid. But that's that idea of like,
Speaker 1: you know, whoever has more better, like more people supporting
Speaker 1: their ideas wins. That's uh more very quickly becoming a
Speaker 1: like an afterthought. It totally is an afterthought. And it's
Speaker 1: also just like, are the entire way that electoral politics
Speaker 1: work is based on the idea that it's not actually
Speaker 1: the amount of people who want something that wins. I mean,
Speaker 1: if that was true, Hillary would have won, right, Like
Speaker 1: it's sort of this idea that is part of our system,
Speaker 1: and we've sort of like I think because of that,
Speaker 1: there's this acceptance of like, yeah, well that's not how
Speaker 1: it works here, Like it's not about the most popular,
Speaker 1: it's about the system that we have that we don't
Speaker 1: totally understand. And I think it's sort of en grains
Speaker 1: this idea and you know that you don't have control
Speaker 1: over anything, um so like I think, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's sort of trickles down and the way
Speaker 1: that the voting suppression is happening right now. I think
Speaker 1: you're right where there is a disconnect from like, no,
Speaker 1: people actually are not going to be able to vote,
Speaker 1: and like this is ultimately going to change the fabric
Speaker 1: of electoral politics in our country. I do think there's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a disconnect from a lot of people,
Speaker 1: and like myself, including at times included at times, as
Speaker 1: I've learned about these issues, I think there is like
Speaker 1: a sense of well, how bad can it be? Like
Speaker 1: we all vote it, and yeah, even independent of the
Speaker 1: suppression and the like you know, rigging and changing that's
Speaker 1: happening at the local level. There's also the current the
Speaker 1: Democrats who are currently empower seem like they think, well,
Speaker 1: just that we'll get people to vote more now because
Speaker 1: they will recognize how bad it can get as as
Speaker 1: a strategy, and I don't which is so fun. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: they want to recognize that you can help them. They
Speaker 1: want to recognize that when you're in power and when
Speaker 1: you have all branches of the government, there can be
Speaker 1: actual actions that impact someone's life. Instead of learning that
Speaker 1: like the Senate Parliamentary and is a thing like we've
Speaker 1: never heard that ever, but now we can't put minimum wage. Sorry,
Speaker 1: Like that is not a winning strategy for Democrats. They
Speaker 1: actually have to do something to show people that when
Speaker 1: they're in power, their lives are improved. And it's just
Speaker 1: like shocking how little they've been able to achieve and
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, sorry, I won't get too much into it.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's a habit, a habit that both
Speaker 1: parties are unable to break because the line really does
Speaker 1: end with is this going to help people? Well, then
Speaker 1: we can't do that, you know, like that there, and
Speaker 1: I think the difference being is it you know, you
Speaker 1: see all those memes in the version of like what
Speaker 1: Republicans say, what democra at saying? The Democrats saying the
Speaker 1: same things after like better fonts and emojis around it,
Speaker 1: while though the substance of it is the exact same,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I I it is disheartening in that sense.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the sort of reality too that
Speaker 1: I think that it just can't be uttered on TV
Speaker 1: because it's like it's too real to say, I'm like
Speaker 1: fucking MSNBC. It's like, well, to be honest, like there's
Speaker 1: the will to really get things done is about around
Speaker 1: the same because when it comes to really fighting for
Speaker 1: things that are going to help people, they will is
Speaker 1: just not there. And there are you know, there are
Speaker 1: transformational things that were being proposed, but we're already seeing
Speaker 1: them get diminished and diminished and diminished. And yes, they
Speaker 1: are still meaningful. Also because the bar is so low,
Speaker 1: and I think we there's we really have to, you know,
Speaker 1: as it's hard to I think see Americans truly demand
Speaker 1: to get the things that they want out of their
Speaker 1: politicians because like to your point, Ali, like it's just
Speaker 1: it becomes a thing where you think, well, what's nothing's happened,
Speaker 1: so what good is it doing? And then you see
Speaker 1: how democrats want to motivate the base, and it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, if you guys don't vote something,
Speaker 1: it's gonna get bad. Well you're you're there, though, to
Speaker 1: do that for us? Where's that? Where's the fun is that?
Speaker 1: What are yall doing? The just vote like tweeting just
Speaker 1: vote whenever something bad happens is just not a winning
Speaker 1: strategy anymore. When you guys have power and we did
Speaker 1: vote and this is what's happening. So like you need
Speaker 1: to change your tune. We voted, yeah, try to act
Speaker 1: on it, like, yeah, I think bringing home, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna go real bad. I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: go real bad mid turn, probably slam age, and then
Speaker 1: they'll panic and then figure it out. Maybe it's just
Speaker 1: make good time. But I also see it happening like
Speaker 1: they doubled down on the nonsense, and you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well now they'll see now they'll be scared by the
Speaker 1: fact that we lost the mid turn, and then they'll
Speaker 1: really come out and like, oh, the Republicans are now
Speaker 1: controlling the House, and they stripped everyone of committee assignments.
Speaker 1: So now I feel like that's not the thing that's
Speaker 1: going to spur everyone to action they might think it is.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a disrespect of like the people
Speaker 1: of like well, like Democrats can't do anything because like
Speaker 1: Cinema and mansion, so like sorry, like we just need
Speaker 1: to vote for more Democrats. Whereas like there's this I
Speaker 1: I I don't know. I mean, not everyone in the
Speaker 1: country is politically informed, but I do think a lot
Speaker 1: of people understand that actually the Democrats could do so
Speaker 1: much more and are not and they continue to like
Speaker 1: just bank on the like ignorance of the people in
Speaker 1: a way that like I find is like really disgusting,
Speaker 1: like like a lot of the rhetoric or aut like
Speaker 1: the like Rob Wade also like was disturbing to me
Speaker 1: for that reason, where it's like when you got like
Speaker 1: there there were opportunities to actually like codify this into
Speaker 1: law that we just wasn't a priority because abortion rights are,
Speaker 1: how are a really important political issue for Democrats. So
Speaker 1: I do think there's like a few like gross rhetorical
Speaker 1: ways that the Democrats are operating right now and they're
Speaker 1: at reality is like things were sucking dire, like Trump's
Speaker 1: gonna win, Like we just need to like shut up
Speaker 1: and like not like pull Republican moves like with like
Speaker 1: Supreme Court, like do something that is actually going to
Speaker 1: change the way that people view the possibilities of what
Speaker 1: can happen when the Democrats in power. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about that hockey fundraiser and we're back and finally
Speaker 1: some field goods, you guys. Finally one of those little
Speaker 1: stories at a hockey game, was it what was it
Speaker 1: like a high school like a junior league hockey It
Speaker 1: wasn't like it wasn't you know, it was like a
Speaker 1: local hockey game, local hockey game. They did a fun
Speaker 1: thing where they rolled out a little piece of carpet
Speaker 1: on the ice, put out five thousand dollars in ones
Speaker 1: was that in yeah, sinkies, and then had teachers like
Speaker 1: crawl over each other to like stuff as many of
Speaker 1: the singles into their shirt as possible to buy supplies
Speaker 1: for for their school because we don't give them money
Speaker 1: to do that because they're wildly underpaid. The wild part
Speaker 1: is so this fun, this whole stunt, right. It was
Speaker 1: like in the intermission, I think between periods or something,
Speaker 1: but it was put on by See You Mortgage Direct,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my kind of wrote like it
Speaker 1: already makes you want to puke in your mouth. It
Speaker 1: really They put down the five thousand dollars and like
Speaker 1: the head of like their development and marketing was telling
Speaker 1: the local paper that it was quote an awesome group
Speaker 1: thing to do after a couple of difficult pandemic years
Speaker 1: for for educators. What in the holy funk are we
Speaker 1: talking about here? And I like, I feel like you
Speaker 1: literally just channeled whoever that person is, because awesome group
Speaker 1: thing to do, you know, Like, yes, someone who like,
Speaker 1: you know, they see a homeless person, they turn their
Speaker 1: radio up and look like the other direction immediately because
Speaker 1: they can't, like they can't fathom the fact that someone
Speaker 1: could be suffering. That's the same mentality I feel if
Speaker 1: someone was like, this is awesome, dude, to take these
Speaker 1: destitute teachers. We literally cut out like exact o knife
Speaker 1: out a piece of cardboard, like we're getting rid of
Speaker 1: a carpet, like we're getting rid of a body, and
Speaker 1: have them scramble for dollar bills on it for to
Speaker 1: educate our kids. And you know, normally this would be
Speaker 1: a story where we've seen these stories in the past,
Speaker 1: right where there'll be one about like a teacher on
Speaker 1: a plane was sitting next to someone who's like talked
Speaker 1: about how difficult it was, and then they started to
Speaker 1: kick like a go fund me or something like got
Speaker 1: to teach her twenty dollars. People like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's so great at such a feel good story rather
Speaker 1: than like we're failing educators and our education system has
Speaker 1: just been systematically gutted. That's what is happening. Not see
Speaker 1: you mortgage direct is like being making it fucking rain
Speaker 1: because they're like the you know, benevolent donat or whatever.
Speaker 1: So all that to say that the reactions normally have
Speaker 1: been like oh ah, but the reactions to this clip
Speaker 1: when it went viral most people, And I think this
Speaker 1: is where you're starting to see that sort of shift
Speaker 1: that's come along with I think increased sort of class
Speaker 1: awareness and just sort of the difficulty of life in
Speaker 1: America where most people were starting to be on the
Speaker 1: more confused or disgusted end of the spectrum, being like, dude,
Speaker 1: what the funk Like isn't that money, like like the
Speaker 1: government should be given them, like to fucking be able
Speaker 1: to pay for trash bags or you know, chalk. And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people also noted that, you know,
Speaker 1: South Dakota is only second to Mississippi, I believe, for
Speaker 1: like lowest pay for teachers, and on top of that,
Speaker 1: they're sitting on a hundreds of millions of unspent COVID
Speaker 1: relief funds that you know, you could probably funnel some
Speaker 1: of that into education, since that's a critical piece of
Speaker 1: infrastructure for your state to have people educated and teachers
Speaker 1: be safe. But I think the one hope is that
Speaker 1: the coverage of this moment wasn't like, oh wow, like
Speaker 1: they looked like they had a good time. It was
Speaker 1: more like it's wow, it's such a beautiful shift. Though.
Speaker 1: I worked as a reporter for BuzzFeed for two years
Speaker 1: in my early twenties, and we covered stories like this
Speaker 1: like often, and like it was accepted of like how
Speaker 1: wonderful is this? Everyone came together to like save this
Speaker 1: to buy this girl insulin, and it's like hold on, like, actually,
Speaker 1: this is deeply, deeply fucked, and this story, like being
Speaker 1: the reaction to it is at least a little bit
Speaker 1: of an inspiring shift where it's like, Okay, these teachers
Speaker 1: are deeply underfunded. This Morgan throwing five thousand dollars on
Speaker 1: the floor and say fight for it is ultimately not
Speaker 1: a nice, awesome thing to do for teachers. And so
Speaker 1: seeing that shift, I think is really cool and I
Speaker 1: think it sort of speaks to what we're talking about earlier,
Speaker 1: where it's like a big part of the political maneuverings
Speaker 1: are to convince people that like, sorry, this is just
Speaker 1: how much money of someone in this job makes like sorry,
Speaker 1: like you just don't get any of these rights. This
Speaker 1: is just how it is, like you're just gonna get
Speaker 1: paid this much forever and there it does take a
Speaker 1: cultural shift to be like wait a minute, like this
Speaker 1: is actually way too little money to make, Like this
Speaker 1: is not what a minimum wage should be, Like this
Speaker 1: is actually not the standard of living that I accept
Speaker 1: And it is cool to see workers and like people
Speaker 1: who are like wage earners have that shift of like,
Speaker 1: hold on a second, like this is not the way
Speaker 1: that things have to work, just because they've been the
Speaker 1: accepted way of the past. Yeah, And I think it
Speaker 1: also goes back to even just sort of how like
Speaker 1: why politicians are even like seem worse now because they're
Speaker 1: they've been so used to this pattern of just saying
Speaker 1: nonsense and like most people being so disconnected from like
Speaker 1: what the real like reality of inequality is that now
Speaker 1: with people having more awareness around it and you're seeing
Speaker 1: it with around them, like not being able to be
Speaker 1: like wait, so like are people really withholding their labor
Speaker 1: because they realize they can get more or deserve more,
Speaker 1: and then like not knowing how to message it around,
Speaker 1: like not shaming companies for raising like their wages and
Speaker 1: but saying nothing when they're raising their prices to basically
Speaker 1: offset any little bit of wage increase that's happened and
Speaker 1: not treating the situation like that, and people like, what's
Speaker 1: going on with all this? Like a lot of places
Speaker 1: are raising their prices as a way to recoup the
Speaker 1: money from the little bit of profit that was shaved
Speaker 1: off from paying more wages and not realizing that. I think,
Speaker 1: for especially if you're a politician or you know, leadership
Speaker 1: role where you're very much insulated from what it means
Speaker 1: is to like just be you know, having to pay
Speaker 1: your bills and not having like excess cash every month
Speaker 1: that you can sock away into savings. That there's a
Speaker 1: new there's a new reality that many people are acknowledging
Speaker 1: that they are not and that they think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of fat friction occurring now to just the sort
Speaker 1: of disconnect between the two. Is there anything in place though?
Speaker 1: For like, so the people who respond to this and
Speaker 1: are like that's fucking gross and looks like a scene
Speaker 1: from a like sci fi dystopia, I do feel like
Speaker 1: anyone who is writing sci fi dystopia like about the
Speaker 1: early two thousand's probably was like, fuck, it's a great scene.
Speaker 1: I should have I should have written this, but like,
Speaker 1: is there anything for them to do? Like, who, where
Speaker 1: does that go other than like disapproval on social media?
Speaker 1: You know? I mean, I think that's the first step, right.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like if you're if you have an
Speaker 1: issue with yourself and you're you know, going through therapy
Speaker 1: or something, you don't solve it in the first session.
Speaker 1: You have to bring awareness to something first, and you
Speaker 1: have to keep observing it to be able to really
Speaker 1: understand it. And I think more and more people are
Speaker 1: having that moment where the awareness is coming to a
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff and it's not just like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's great, Like this anonymous donor canceled this
Speaker 1: school's lunch debt. You're like, fucking lunch debt? What does
Speaker 1: that mean? Oh? Yeah, these kids owe a lot of
Speaker 1: money because they had to eat or some ship, and
Speaker 1: that in our problem. Like, I think people are starting
Speaker 1: to like, sort of these things aren't They don't feel
Speaker 1: normal anymore, it feels I think the cruelty of it
Speaker 1: all is becoming more and more transparent and visible to people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I do think that is a really meaningful shift
Speaker 1: of rejection of that narrative and demanding more from your politicians.
Speaker 1: And I think that whether it is like how you
Speaker 1: vote and like voting on policy and like actually paying
Speaker 1: attention to these issues of like funding or for schools
Speaker 1: or you know, like or if it's just you know,
Speaker 1: rejecting political narratives, Like I don't know. I do think
Speaker 1: it is an important place to start. And it's like
Speaker 1: you can always call your politicians, you can always like
Speaker 1: donate to go fund to me, but like, ultimately, nothing
Speaker 1: to me is more important than like a collective mindset,
Speaker 1: mindset shift of understanding that our government is supposed to
Speaker 1: take care of us. That is the point of a
Speaker 1: government is to Otherwise why would we have one right
Speaker 1: like it is to care for the citizens. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just wish America and like the American government and
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party was better at if the like cultural
Speaker 1: tone that we're reading and like the response to this
Speaker 1: clip was monetize herbal you would have companies like rushing
Speaker 1: in to try and like find a way to monetize it.
Speaker 1: But like, I don't feel like there is that same
Speaker 1: sort of instinct to coordinate and organize around the is
Speaker 1: that aren't monetize able in America. Yeah, which is where
Speaker 1: I get worried. Yeah, and I think, well, I think
Speaker 1: what's powerful too is like the image itself. Most people
Speaker 1: just saw it for what it was like. Hold on,
Speaker 1: you're putting a bunch of cash on a rug, and
Speaker 1: you're making teachers like fucking scramble for it in order
Speaker 1: to fund their like educational endeavors with bike helmets on,
Speaker 1: so that as they like crash, what's like hockey there?
Speaker 1: To be honest, more of an aesthetic choice is pretty safe.
Speaker 1: We just thought it as an awesome group thing to do,
Speaker 1: you know, would be really cool to watch these teachers
Speaker 1: just sort of demonstrate physically how desperate they are to
Speaker 1: provide for their students. I will say the there is
Speaker 1: what one of the people has a little like hat
Speaker 1: next to them, which suggests to me that they walked
Speaker 1: across the ice with the hat on, got the hockey helmet,
Speaker 1: and put the hockey helmet on as the like grabbed
Speaker 1: for cash started, because it was an attempt to not
Speaker 1: just like knock each other this They were going for
Speaker 1: the money. But yeah, I mean, I guess it is
Speaker 1: a hockey helmet on a hockey rank. But I also
Speaker 1: feel like it's like and man, they're gonna be so
Speaker 1: wild to try and get funding for markers that they're
Speaker 1: gonna like there's damage that could be done. Right, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, this is all money that
Speaker 1: should be available to the people who are educating the
Speaker 1: future of the earth. But again we also see what
Speaker 1: happens when with a lack of good education and not
Speaker 1: challenging students and being able to develop critical thinking skills,
Speaker 1: because you might just accept the first thing you hear
Speaker 1: that a friend says and be like, yeah, that's the truth, man,
Speaker 1: I think the vaccine is actually causing these mutations. You're like, huh,
Speaker 1: but well, Ali, it's been such a pleasure having you
Speaker 1: on the daily Zeitgeist. Oh thank you so much. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you and follow you? I'm on Instagram
Speaker 1: as the real Ali ven Giano and Twitter, which I've
Speaker 1: tried to stay off of but I do struggle with it.
Speaker 1: I'm just alivean Giano on Twitter. And I'm also the
Speaker 1: movie The End of Us just came out on December
Speaker 1: seventh on demand, so you can stream it on Amazon
Speaker 1: or iTunes, and yeah, I start in that, so that's
Speaker 1: where you can find me. Yeah, is there a tweet
Speaker 1: or something on Instagram or social media that you have
Speaker 1: been enjoying. Oh well, I picked a tweet. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys have already discussed this chast
Speaker 1: In Buddha Judge tweet. But I had to think I
Speaker 1: had to go to that. I don't even know what
Speaker 1: it is, Okay, so Chaston, Oh no, he he posted
Speaker 1: it on his story, but I found it on Twitter
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a screenshot of his student loan payment.
Speaker 1: It's a screenshot from I guess I don't know who
Speaker 1: the government to student people who have his loans. That says,
Speaker 1: chat in your student loan payments restart after January two
Speaker 1: thousand and twenty two. You'll soon receive a bill from
Speaker 1: your student loan service. And he posted it L O
Speaker 1: L no, thank you, Merry Christmas next, and it's just
Speaker 1: such a beautiful tweet to me. You know, it is
Speaker 1: a problem. I think that Joe Biden is now we
Speaker 1: all have to start paying our loans again. You know,
Speaker 1: we're still in this pandemic and it's just not the
Speaker 1: best electoral strategy, I would say, But there's also what
Speaker 1: else is he supposed to do? Although he did say
Speaker 1: he'd cancel some students that so it's just and you know,
Speaker 1: and that would be one thing he could do. But um,
Speaker 1: chaps and Buddha. Judge publicly posting this. Whether or not
Speaker 1: he has awareness of what exactly he did, I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but either way, I think it's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I feel like people are starting to think pee Judge
Speaker 1: is like the answer to the like that he's going
Speaker 1: to step in and be the Democratic candidate that people
Speaker 1: can elect because Biden and Harris are not it. I
Speaker 1: don't know, well, so lucky, I mean he he at
Speaker 1: least people voted for him him, like, you know, at
Speaker 1: least it seems like there was some response to him.
Speaker 1: So I mean, yes, no, I I am, I do not.
Speaker 1: I am not here supporting peep bo to Judge, That's
Speaker 1: not why I picked up this tweet. He's not for me,
Speaker 1: He's not it. He is not it. But at the
Speaker 1: least at least some people voted for him, whereas like Kamonga,
Speaker 1: like although I understand why she was picked as vice president,
Speaker 1: like did really struggle to get votes And so yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's a harder sell for president. But hopefully
Speaker 1: someone else will come through. I really, I really, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be out here standing people to judge. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's I don't know what it's going to take, honestly,
Speaker 1: because like you'd have to abandon all of the accepted
Speaker 1: wisdom of the Democratic Party to like actually do something
Speaker 1: that is what we're talking about to help people, you know,
Speaker 1: to put someone out there who's not trying to constantly
Speaker 1: figure out like a triangulation, but just speak very directly
Speaker 1: about the problems that exists and not shy away from them.
Speaker 1: Because I think that's another issue that American politicians. I
Speaker 1: was like, don't diagnose the problem too deep, because then
Speaker 1: you sound like you hate America. Like if we need
Speaker 1: people with the skills to be able to communicate that
Speaker 1: there are problems that can be solved, rather than like
Speaker 1: you hate America. Because your point and stuff felt, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is so true that anytime you try to help people,
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you hate, you hate, you hate our country,
Speaker 1: And it's like I wish it could be reframed a
Speaker 1: little bit of like, no, I love the people here,
Speaker 1: so I want to try to do something that actually
Speaker 1: benefits their lives so much so that I acknowledge the
Speaker 1: need for something quite drastic right for people to have
Speaker 1: a better lived outcomes. People should have teeth when they're
Speaker 1: on medicare, Like you hate your communist and it's real.
Speaker 1: My parents was a dental surgery and it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it was like almost like ten tho dollars and like
Speaker 1: it's they don't they it wasn't on their healthcare and
Speaker 1: it's like fucking insane that that's just like you out
Speaker 1: a reality miles Where can people find you and follow you?
Speaker 1: As the tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, you can find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray and
Speaker 1: also the other pod for twenty Day Fiance with Sophie
Speaker 1: Alexandra where we talk about our favorite ninety day fiance
Speaker 1: off that loud. Okay, now some tweets that I like. First,
Speaker 1: one is from at Silly ass Hole tweeted please don't
Speaker 1: eat edibles While watching Law and Order, I thought I
Speaker 1: was the damn suspect. Okay, do do you know if
Speaker 1: that's if that's how you react yet, maybe you don't
Speaker 1: watch an intense show like that. And one more from
Speaker 1: Ryan and Geary at Geary, Ryan tweeted, why do we
Speaker 1: need to make West Side Story Like, bitch, do you
Speaker 1: know how many times I've watched Batman's parents die? So yeah,
Speaker 1: let the remake West Side Story ship. You can find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore ol Brian a couple
Speaker 1: of tweets I've been enjoying. Some guy named Andy Richter tweeted,
Speaker 1: every year, when I get the Christmas lights out of
Speaker 1: the garage, I'm struck by how little respect last year's
Speaker 1: me has for this year's may. I feel that. I
Speaker 1: feel that so rude, I'm so snarled like rat king
Speaker 1: of Christmas lights. And I also have a higher respect
Speaker 1: for my ability to like make sense of it. Then,
Speaker 1: like I sometimes do this thing. We're all like tie ribbon, Like,
Speaker 1: I'll do a small role thie ribbon around that, do
Speaker 1: a small role thie ribbon around that, but it's still
Speaker 1: a complete fucking mass than the ribbon never lasts, and
Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, that's so optimistic. And then Jack
Speaker 1: Crosby tweeted, maybe a controversial take, but car headlights are
Speaker 1: too bright these days. Every single suv is equipped with
Speaker 1: like military grade halogen Retina destroyers. Jeep Grand Cherokee driving
Speaker 1: around with the nine leven memorial spotlights on the front
Speaker 1: lighthouse as Chevy Tahose grow up. I just feel that
Speaker 1: so plea. I feel that. Like at the time, I'm
Speaker 1: always like this, ask what got their high beams on? Right,
Speaker 1: and like when in my rear view, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. I think it's just all
Speaker 1: these fucking super hyper white lights that are yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you flick your high beams at them, and then
Speaker 1: they flick there's at you and like like those weren't
Speaker 1: the hyping Your hat spins around on your head. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: as us song that we think you might enjoy Miles
Speaker 1: Lit song do we think people might enjoy? Oh? Man, Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm going going more more background music. I love
Speaker 1: B g M background music. It's just a good wallpaper
Speaker 1: for your home. The music is relaxing, it's not complex
Speaker 1: enough that it's distracting and I just want to go
Speaker 1: out from This is a different BGM artist on Spotify
Speaker 1: called Cafe Music b GM channel. Okay, And this is
Speaker 1: from the album Christmas Jazz. And this is the track
Speaker 1: the old the all time favorite Silent Night, but the
Speaker 1: old jazz background music version. And I know you people like, well,
Speaker 1: this is weird compared to most of the stuff I recommend.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you keep background music at a low
Speaker 1: hum in your house. It does some ship. It helps
Speaker 1: kind of alleviate the environment. It doesn't always have to
Speaker 1: be music you love, because I find that to be
Speaker 1: really distracting sometimes, like laboring over a playlist. Just try
Speaker 1: some BGM these holidays, Okay, Yeah, all right, Well, The
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Speaker 1: but we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending.
Speaker 1: A We'll talk to you all then, Bye bye. Fell