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Speaker 1: of Chicago, focusing on ecological social movements in Chinese capitalism.
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Speaker 1: to the show, Christopher Wall. What's happy to be here? So?
Speaker 1: What was how's the Daily Show grind treating you? You know? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think yeah. In week two, was when I just
Speaker 1: lost all sensive time and yeah, you know, well we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see how week like two hundred goes when I
Speaker 1: just like have forgotten that calendars exist and haven't slept
Speaker 1: in one trillion years. It's gonna it's gonna be great.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. Yeah. Look, it blurs together. First.
Speaker 1: It could be very uh, nervy experience, and then you
Speaker 1: settle in, you know, like a nice warm bath, and
Speaker 1: you don't realize that you're slowly sinking in deeper and
Speaker 1: deeper like it's been now many years, two seasons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then pretty soon all you can do is, uh,
Speaker 1: it's been. And my wife and friends and those you know,
Speaker 1: my wife leaves me, Yeah, because that's the only thing
Speaker 1: I can do when interacting with her. It's bored, impressed
Speaker 1: at least, the family's falling apart, my wife Alright. September,
Speaker 1: how September treating everyone so far? Oh my god, Wow,
Speaker 1: couldn't be better? First day of school for the for
Speaker 1: the young uns today? Absolute chaos, mate for your children's yeah,
Speaker 1: for your children's Okay, it was wild. It was like
Speaker 1: just a massive mass of screaming children with their parents
Speaker 1: dropping them off and then like we went around the
Speaker 1: corner to drop our preschooler off at the preschool, walked back.
Speaker 1: It was it was like a ghost. It was just
Speaker 1: completely empty. They just it was it was like in
Speaker 1: It's like in the movies, you know when they the
Speaker 1: bell rings and suddenly the hall is empty, right right right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so school, you know, I hear you. Those were the days. Anyways, kindergarten, big,
Speaker 1: big kindergarten for Ramsey. So we're we're excited, Chris. We're
Speaker 1: going to get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 1: in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a
Speaker 1: couple of the things we're talking about today. The Supreme
Speaker 1: Court has basically allowed abortion to become functionally illegal in Texas,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: Florida getting tricky with the COVID maths. We're going to
Speaker 1: talk about a town in Alabama that is in the
Speaker 1: find out phase of having a Trump rally during a pandemic.
Speaker 1: They fucked around in a very specific way. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: look at the background of some of the Afghanistan war
Speaker 1: expert that have been all over cable news for the
Speaker 1: past month. Basically and just you know what, what are
Speaker 1: their jobs when they're not talk talking about how the
Speaker 1: removal the end of this war is a is a
Speaker 1: disaster for American honor and other specific things. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about Seinfeld going to Netflix. We'll talk about pumpkin spice madness,
Speaker 1: all that plenty more. But first, Christopher, we like to
Speaker 1: ask our guest, what is something from your search history?
Speaker 1: Oh God, So yesterday I wound up searching postners selling babies,
Speaker 1: which is a fun time. So something something that that
Speaker 1: that I learned about at the Verse of Chicago is
Speaker 1: that anyone who gets like true into markets eventually like
Speaker 1: reaches a phase where they go, you have to sell
Speaker 1: babies and so and there's a lot of people who
Speaker 1: could do this. Post near specifically is this guy named
Speaker 1: Richard Postner. Who this guy was like he was he
Speaker 1: was it was. He was on the Seventh Circuit Court
Speaker 1: of Appeals for like forty years. He's like like one
Speaker 1: of the most influential like legal scholars of the scent
Speaker 1: for century. Actually he's written two articles now about like
Speaker 1: how you need to have like adoption agencies being able
Speaker 1: to sell babies and that like basically the adoption industry
Speaker 1: without the market has like an unfair monopoly, and so
Speaker 1: need to break the monopoly. You have to let them
Speaker 1: sell children, right, because the people who are willing to
Speaker 1: pay the highest are definitely inherently the most worthy humans.
Speaker 1: So it makes sense. It's it's you know, the specific thing.
Speaker 1: So I remembering this and like Murray rothbarg who was
Speaker 1: like the big narcro capitalist guy, is huge on this,
Speaker 1: and I was trying to remember because I had to
Speaker 1: read like both of them in college and I shouldn't remember.
Speaker 1: One of the two argued that he would end racism
Speaker 1: because everyone would see that there were like different values
Speaker 1: on like prices of babies, because like if I buy
Speaker 1: race and that this would show everyone that racism was real,
Speaker 1: would end racism. And I was like, but creating a
Speaker 1: baby market, wow, yeah, it's libertarianism is a is a time.
Speaker 1: So this is the thing that basically all libertarian like economists,
Speaker 1: like people who are just like let the market decide
Speaker 1: like kind of end up that is like, well, babies,
Speaker 1: what's their issue with the current system? Is just that
Speaker 1: too much bureaucracy? Yeah, Well, basically the problem is that
Speaker 1: that there's a like the adoption agencies have have a monopoly,
Speaker 1: and you know, monopolies are inefficient, and so to have
Speaker 1: efficient like exchange of babies, you have to have markets.
Speaker 1: And this is the kind of stuff where like you knows,
Speaker 1: at a certain point the people actually empower look at
Speaker 1: the idea like that, you know, the people who believe
Speaker 1: there's like the hardcore idealogues, right, they're like the people
Speaker 1: who are really committed to the market is the most
Speaker 1: efficient way to do anything. And at some point the
Speaker 1: people in charge like stop them, and like this is
Speaker 1: where the line gets drawn. It's like this and like
Speaker 1: when when they tried the nuclear that they tried to
Speaker 1: like have an auction between the different branches of the
Speaker 1: military to see like who would run the nuclear program
Speaker 1: like that, that's when the that's the point where they
Speaker 1: one tells him to stop. But like this is this
Speaker 1: is a thing that a lot of a disturbing number
Speaker 1: of people who are very influential believe should happen. But
Speaker 1: we'll never talk about publicly because basically it's just it's
Speaker 1: a weird, weird look, right, And you know, Texas about
Speaker 1: to have a bumper crop of babies for sale, so
Speaker 1: that's gonna be great for the markets for babies are
Speaker 1: us post are like Legit talks about this in in
Speaker 1: his thing about how like an abortion is affecting the
Speaker 1: supply of babies and how this place and it's just
Speaker 1: it's yeah, m hmm. Sometimes a little thinking can go
Speaker 1: a little too far. Yeah, a little thinking. It's a
Speaker 1: little bit, just just any sliver of very specific thinking
Speaker 1: without being anchored to any sort of humanity, right well,
Speaker 1: trying to prove your point like that your sense is
Speaker 1: saying like, oh, yeah, like babies are like Honda preludes,
Speaker 1: you know, like people just got to know that there's
Speaker 1: like certain ones get a little more money, but you
Speaker 1: and that's how we'll be able to melt our biases. Jesus.
Speaker 1: Oh and you're you're just looking at that too, because
Speaker 1: you were wondering way our markets the most efficient way
Speaker 1: to distribute babies, or you were doing that for a
Speaker 1: it was kind of reason Robert Robert Evans was like, Chris,
Speaker 1: you're doing it as punishment. You're doing a thing on
Speaker 1: on libertarians and their weird distinction between like pedophilia and
Speaker 1: the baby aphilia, the one that's like slightly older or whatever.
Speaker 1: So that that that that set me down the selling
Speaker 1: baby train. Then I was like, wait, okay, hold on
Speaker 1: which which one of these people was the selling babies
Speaker 1: will solve racism of people, in which one of them
Speaker 1: was just it's pretto efficient, right, and then yeah, this
Speaker 1: is that was just my list. I was not aware
Speaker 1: of the libertarian pro pedophilia. That was a I mean
Speaker 1: kind of makes sense based on everything else they believe.
Speaker 1: It's it's just a theory. It's just a theory, you know,
Speaker 1: just looking into it. That's that's libertarianism. Hell of a truck.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, what is something you think is overrated besides libertarianism? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do another controversial one and say that pizza
Speaker 1: is overrated. It's like like it's like fine, right, but
Speaker 1: like okay, so compare the average slice of pizza in
Speaker 1: the world to like the world's average dumpling. Right, Like
Speaker 1: you're okay, you think look at this, right, you have
Speaker 1: the average slice of pizza and comparing it to like
Speaker 1: soup dumplings or like geos there like semosis are provin
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's okay. It's like it's a good food,
Speaker 1: but it's just not as good as everyone thinks it
Speaker 1: is here. It's right, You're so, you're it's I think
Speaker 1: the reason we love it is because it's of just
Speaker 1: a crowd pleaser. You know, it's hard to say no,
Speaker 1: but like, is it the be all end all of foods?
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not in that camp. I mean, I love pizza,
Speaker 1: but not like in this sense, Like if you gave
Speaker 1: me a choice of like maybe some other delicious foods too,
Speaker 1: I'm be like, yeah, no, I'm good for pizza. You know,
Speaker 1: pizza's that time and place. Are you also saying that
Speaker 1: dumplings are kind of harder to funk up, because like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I've had some really good frozen dumplings.
Speaker 1: It's like not eating them well frozen, but frozen dumplings
Speaker 1: like that you then heat up and they're still pretty good.
Speaker 1: I have not had as much success with frozen pizza.
Speaker 1: Frozen pizza generally sucks. Yeah, I mean they're probably, I
Speaker 1: mean they're it is possible to like screw up a dumpling,
Speaker 1: but I feel like the people who are doing it
Speaker 1: are better at it than just like the average just
Speaker 1: absolutely awful, like weird, just like probably like six week old,
Speaker 1: like home running pizza that comes out of like that.
Speaker 1: He's sort of in a box. It was like seven
Speaker 1: minutes before in a freeze pace. Yeah, yeah, it's just right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, pizza has is has become so popular that
Speaker 1: you know, they churn them out. Now there's they'll they'll
Speaker 1: just you know, start adding cheese to pizza if there's
Speaker 1: a cheese surplus. Has happened in the I think in
Speaker 1: the eighties or nineties, What will be next? When what's
Speaker 1: the next surplus that they're gonna start forcing onto pizza
Speaker 1: And they're like, oh yeah, just grapes, man, get a
Speaker 1: load of these. I mean, super producer on a Jsnie
Speaker 1: was sent on Twitter the other day that we should
Speaker 1: put corn on pizza more often, which, yeah, oh man,
Speaker 1: in Japan, the fucking corn is like on pizza out there,
Speaker 1: and I used to think it was very strange as
Speaker 1: a kid, but you know, yeah, there's really nothing a
Speaker 1: couple of corn kernels on a pizza. You're not going
Speaker 1: to be like, what the fun's just like everything's sucking corn.
Speaker 1: So true to me, pineapple still more jarring, Like corn
Speaker 1: doesn't really have as much like a flavor that it's
Speaker 1: going to fully inform the rest of the experience. But yeah,
Speaker 1: a little ham and corn, why not. I'm surprised that
Speaker 1: corn hasn't been forced down our throat more as as
Speaker 1: a pizza topping in the United States since that is,
Speaker 1: I guess we've found found ways to use corn Otherwise.
Speaker 1: I think everything that I'm currently touching, including my computer,
Speaker 1: is actually at least thirty percent made of corn. Corn everything.
Speaker 1: I wonder how much of the pizza is already just corn,
Speaker 1: probably like like with the corn sur like in the song.
Speaker 1: I mean, is it is that? Is it gonna make
Speaker 1: its way into the dough? Probably? Not right, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I hope not. But yeah, what is something you take?
Speaker 1: Is underrated? The show Leverage you have you just seen leverage,
Speaker 1: I have not. Okay, leverage, leverage rules, Leverage is. But
Speaker 1: basically the premise of the show is every episode is
Speaker 1: It's It's It's It's a forty minute heist movie with
Speaker 1: con artists, except they basically like they they steal from
Speaker 1: the risch and give it to the poor people, and
Speaker 1: they do it by just running incredibly elaborate and absurd
Speaker 1: cons on people who suck and it's it is an
Speaker 1: extremely good time and more people should know about it
Speaker 1: because it's just it's it's just fun. Where where can
Speaker 1: you watch it? Is a show? Oh yeah, it was
Speaker 1: on from oh eight to two. Yeah, there's a new
Speaker 1: season two that I I think you can wash an
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime or something. But yeah, it was originally and
Speaker 1: it's like a very it's a very like post two
Speaker 1: eight show in like the best way that I only
Speaker 1: sort of vaguely reber because I was like twelve, but like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's very post to a thousand and
Speaker 1: eight in that like there's a bunch of rich people
Speaker 1: and they're all bad and the goal of the show
Speaker 1: was to screw those people over. And it's okay, right
Speaker 1: right right, just like anger about the the session and
Speaker 1: the subprime lending ship. Yeah, yeah, you know, and it
Speaker 1: holds up right like even even when they brought the
Speaker 1: show back, Like a lot of the sort of old
Speaker 1: shows that they reboot like are bad because they don't
Speaker 1: you know, the premise of whatever was about is like
Speaker 1: and like, you know, is it that that Robin hood
Speaker 1: nous that you really speaks to you? Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: Robin hoodness. And then also this I just I like
Speaker 1: heist movies and this is like, this is like five
Speaker 1: seasons of heist movie that's also con artists, which is
Speaker 1: just extremely fun. Okay, yeah, it's funny because that was
Speaker 1: one of those shows too where I just saw the
Speaker 1: poster and I'm like, I don't know what that's about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's about. It's vague. Looks like
Speaker 1: people stand ending in front of a truck. Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: they're truckers. But now, okay, this is interesting. Maybe I
Speaker 1: have to check this one. Yeah, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: good time. It was a t n T original. It
Speaker 1: looks like, yeah, that's when I was. I would never
Speaker 1: cast my eyes upon anything from t n T. So yeah,
Speaker 1: just all tracks from me back then. If you had
Speaker 1: suggested a t NT original, we would have cut your feed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not allowed out. I do feel like there are
Speaker 1: a number of shows like from that tier of cable, Like, um,
Speaker 1: I think Suits is one of these that I I
Speaker 1: just don't I never gave a chance, purely because they
Speaker 1: were on t NT or USA and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well yeah, okay, yeah, like I'm gonna watch that White
Speaker 1: Collar and they're probably I probably should have, so I
Speaker 1: will check it out. Leverage, which you can want Shawn
Speaker 1: Apple TV for free if you have an Apple or
Speaker 1: the is that what it's called Apple TV or Apple
Speaker 1: plus whatever that is. They have replaced from the main
Speaker 1: characters with an iPad. However, as we talked about on
Speaker 1: yesterday's episode, the Apple Original programming is all just shot
Speaker 1: through with like kind of the most aggressive product placement
Speaker 1: of all time. But all right, well, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back.
Speaker 1: And so in Texas, the Supreme Court basically chose not
Speaker 1: to block a law, or hasn't blocked it yet, even
Speaker 1: though the law is now enforced, so like it seems
Speaker 1: like the sort of thing that would have blocked by now.
Speaker 1: But it's basically this, It makes abortion something that is
Speaker 1: suitable after how many weeks? Is it? Six weeks into
Speaker 1: a pregnancy, which is before most women realize they're pregnant.
Speaker 1: And it's a it's a really wild law in the
Speaker 1: sense that it deputizes citizens to file civil suits against
Speaker 1: abortion providers or anyone who helps facilitate the procedure, such
Speaker 1: as a person who drives a pregnant person to the clinic.
Speaker 1: So it's basically making it so that you can be
Speaker 1: like financially ruined for having any involvement in helping somebody
Speaker 1: get an abortion after after six weeks. It's a bad
Speaker 1: it's the it's like the height of fucked up abortion laws.
Speaker 1: I mean, this one is the different because it's actually
Speaker 1: gone into effect. A lot of times we see things
Speaker 1: that are proposed and then they'll get caught up in
Speaker 1: courts and then struck down and things like that, but
Speaker 1: this was allowed to go into effect. And you know
Speaker 1: a lot of advocates who would talk about birth control
Speaker 1: access and abortion access that you know, this isn't just
Speaker 1: meant to punish the people who are seeking abortions, but
Speaker 1: to basically kneecap the entire infrastructure that supports someone who
Speaker 1: is seeking to exercise any kind of agency over their
Speaker 1: own bodies. So yeah, by doing that saying well, now,
Speaker 1: if oh I saw this person get dropped off in
Speaker 1: this card to walk into a women's clinic coming to
Speaker 1: write down, I'm gonna do my own fucking investigating and
Speaker 1: go to court. And it's just wild because if they
Speaker 1: it's like basically just giving ten thousand dollars away to
Speaker 1: someone who is suing someone because they suspect them of
Speaker 1: having an abortion, and even if the person defends themselves
Speaker 1: successfully in court against this like whatever vigil anti suit,
Speaker 1: there's like no way for them to coop anything. It's
Speaker 1: just sort of it is what it is. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's a fucking grim grim moment,
Speaker 1: you know. And right now there's pretty much as this
Speaker 1: as this law is, the only option you really have
Speaker 1: is to go out of state. And to your point
Speaker 1: about like the six week thing, that's they're saying that's
Speaker 1: the women who seek abortions in the state of Texas,
Speaker 1: Like if it's that as after that six week point,
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're looking at just a really you know, draconian,
Speaker 1: just outright ban on abortion there. Basically, yeah, there's something
Speaker 1: so American conservative about like deputizing people to like spy
Speaker 1: on and like enforce the fucking law against their neighbors.
Speaker 1: Like just in my experience where living in communities that
Speaker 1: were like strongly Baptist Southern Baptists, that is that is
Speaker 1: the culture is people talking shit about each other's like
Speaker 1: whether they're saved or not and whether like what actions
Speaker 1: they've taken that they think is like you know, sinful
Speaker 1: and yeah, this is um worried for for a country,
Speaker 1: especially because I mean this is people are saying, like, well,
Speaker 1: if if they're not going to stop this law, they're
Speaker 1: certainly you know, and when it actually comes up for
Speaker 1: Supreme Court judgment like this, this is another one of
Speaker 1: the cases that's kind of shadow docket where they like
Speaker 1: push it through on an emergency basis and the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court just hasn't done anything about it, even though it's
Speaker 1: clearly a constitutional emergency. But when the actual Roe v.
Speaker 1: Wade case comes up, I mean it's not Roe v.
Speaker 1: Wade coming up, but there's a actual case in Mississippi,
Speaker 1: I believe coming up for Supreme Court judgment. I mean
Speaker 1: this this indicates that they're going to essentially overturned, right
Speaker 1: or you know. And the thing with this one is
Speaker 1: it's this bill as the as the law is now
Speaker 1: is unconstitutional and so and it's and yeah, it is
Speaker 1: a reminder that, yeah, we have a six three conservative
Speaker 1: fucking majority supermajority essentially in the Supreme Court. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean like, and this is one of those things too.
Speaker 1: What a lot of states do is they see a
Speaker 1: little bit of like, you know, especially states that are
Speaker 1: hell bent on taking away people's access to abortions and
Speaker 1: things like that. They look at what other states are doing,
Speaker 1: what they've got gotten away with, and they'll immediately start
Speaker 1: mimicking that locally too. So yeah, it's just a very
Speaker 1: very awful, awful time. And yeah there's a there's clearly
Speaker 1: a ton of litigation around this, but it really doesn't
Speaker 1: bode well for you know, the road vieway it as
Speaker 1: it stands. You know. Well, one thing I will say
Speaker 1: about this though, is that like, well, I mean, on
Speaker 1: the one hand, we have the thing that we're you know,
Speaker 1: we're all just ruled by a junta. Now, like this
Speaker 1: is literally like we we we are we are being
Speaker 1: governed by fiat by like a junta of like random
Speaker 1: people from harvardar and Gale. And it's like you know,
Speaker 1: but then their hand like you know this this this
Speaker 1: cuts in a lot of different directions. But the Supreme
Speaker 1: Courts power is fake, like like like they basically the
Speaker 1: Supreme Courts power of just review is something they just
Speaker 1: declared that they had in the early in the I
Speaker 1: think it's late seventy nationally Agian hundreds, they just like
Speaker 1: unilaterally and marbarous Madagic Meadson just said, like we have
Speaker 1: the ability to do this, and you know, the state
Speaker 1: can just ignore them. Like this is this is something
Speaker 1: that like you only see it every once in a while.
Speaker 1: It's usually only done for like absolutely terrible evil. But
Speaker 1: like you can just tell the Supreme Court to funk
Speaker 1: off and there's nothing they can do about it. Like
Speaker 1: like legally they do, like the powers that they claim
Speaker 1: to have are not in the Constitution. They just gave
Speaker 1: it to themselves. And so you know, I mean, like
Speaker 1: this is the point we're at now, right, like being
Speaker 1: ruled by a junta. They're just you know, they're they're
Speaker 1: evicting millions of people by weird fiat there about to
Speaker 1: just take everyone's ability to abortions away, and like that's
Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff that like, right, we have
Speaker 1: to actually be thinking about because we we've we've reached
Speaker 1: the sort of like fascism level where they've created like
Speaker 1: just the abortion gestapo where it's like like like one
Speaker 1: of the things I was reading about on on you know,
Speaker 1: the Last Nights where abortions were legal, like a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of these people like showed up to the abortion
Speaker 1: clinics and were like shining spotlights through the windows of
Speaker 1: the like like of of the hospital. Just yeah, just
Speaker 1: absolute horror show. Yeah. But yeah, and I'm wondering, you know,
Speaker 1: that's where we have to arrive at a point where
Speaker 1: it's like we're adjudicating these monumentally important societal issues with
Speaker 1: a group of people that like can like with a
Speaker 1: system that can be gang aimed essentially with how you
Speaker 1: how you make up the Supreme Court and then still
Speaker 1: being like right, based on like the rigid interpretation of
Speaker 1: the Constitution, we decide to not give people civil rights. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's that. So where where where is the you know,
Speaker 1: where the remedies for that? And where you know, at
Speaker 1: what point are we going to begin to really actually
Speaker 1: trying to think of how to perform this sort of
Speaker 1: form of oversized power that they have and typically goes
Speaker 1: against the well being of most people, right, Like, even
Speaker 1: even though constitutionally you can argue that they don't have
Speaker 1: the power to do this, like practically speaking, they you know,
Speaker 1: in a state like Texas where Republicans and conservatives kind
Speaker 1: of run everything, like they'll if you ignore this ruling
Speaker 1: and you know, get or perform an abortion, like they
Speaker 1: can still suit you and take a bunch of take
Speaker 1: like lots of your money, right so if not all
Speaker 1: you know, in some instances, And that's what's really vile
Speaker 1: about this is that it incentivizes people to just be
Speaker 1: probably pretty frivolous. I'm sure there's someone who's going to
Speaker 1: figure out a way to do math and be like, well,
Speaker 1: if I take these many lawsuits and this many hit
Speaker 1: then I can actually have a good income just harassing
Speaker 1: people who are trying to get an abortion. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and even weren't just that, like you know, people are
Speaker 1: at any time you have a system that's just like hey,
Speaker 1: you can stitch on your neighbors now and then and
Speaker 1: some people will pay you. Like people will just use
Speaker 1: this against random people like that. That's that's going to
Speaker 1: just start happening right like this, you know, this is
Speaker 1: what happens when you create these like there's just just
Speaker 1: like weird STOTSI like everyone's in inform it now, like
Speaker 1: we will pay you for informing ship. It's you know,
Speaker 1: it degrades to not even degrades like that. The point
Speaker 1: of it is just to create this absolutely nightmare surveillance
Speaker 1: state where everyone around you is turning you into the
Speaker 1: states like right and now, and has a chilling effect
Speaker 1: on anyone, not just a person who's seeking an abortion,
Speaker 1: but just anyone around them, you know, if they need
Speaker 1: help in any way now that they could be potentially
Speaker 1: caught up in you know what can turn into a
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollar legal thing and plus whatever else other
Speaker 1: you know, damages or penalties that are included with that.
Speaker 1: So like at this point, when they're trying to turn
Speaker 1: the entire state of Texas into like footloose, like do
Speaker 1: why why wouldn't Joe Biden and the Democrats who have
Speaker 1: the power to do something like what wouldn't this be
Speaker 1: the time to just be like, Okay, fuck the filibuster,
Speaker 1: Like look at look at what they're trying to do.
Speaker 1: Like the majority of Americans are not for this sort
Speaker 1: of anti choice legislation, so like we we are beholden,
Speaker 1: like we have to do this or else they're basically
Speaker 1: hijacking the country from us, Like isn't isn't wouldn't that
Speaker 1: make sense? And like is what is stopping them from
Speaker 1: doing that? Other than just the fact that they also
Speaker 1: benefit from the status quo? I mean, I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, in the comments from Biden have been that.
Speaker 1: He's saying that, you know, this administration is committed to
Speaker 1: these things and they will do what it takes to
Speaker 1: defend it. So I mean, whether that means that they're
Speaker 1: going to bring a suit or something is possible, but
Speaker 1: I don't know right now. The most immediate thing would
Speaker 1: be if the Supreme Court issued a stay on the
Speaker 1: band in the next few days. But you'd think, like
Speaker 1: if they really believed it was unconstitutional, they wouldn't have
Speaker 1: allowed in the first place. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that there's two things with this. One is
Speaker 1: that you know, like short like okay, the like short
Speaker 1: of like Biden actually taking seriously the packing the court stuff,
Speaker 1: which is not going to like there you know, even
Speaker 1: if they do a lawsuit, they're gonna lose, right, So
Speaker 1: there's not much like they're they're probably not gonna do anything,
Speaker 1: and they don't really have I don't think they have
Speaker 1: much incentive to because you know, fundamentally, the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: cares about abortion insofar as it's a good fundraising issue,
Speaker 1: right and you know, and like the like the more
Speaker 1: dire the threat, the better the fundraising issue is. Right. No, none,
Speaker 1: you know, none of that money actually will will go
Speaker 1: back into like defending abortions, you know, and abortions already
Speaker 1: been almost functionally legal in a lot of places before
Speaker 1: this right like they care about as the political prop
Speaker 1: they don't care about like actually helping people get abortions.
Speaker 1: And you know, and least the second thing, it's like
Speaker 1: the only thing that is going to get any of
Speaker 1: these people to do anything is if they're scared. And
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and then the and the right
Speaker 1: was extremely effective about this, right, Like the right did
Speaker 1: bombing campaigns. The right did like they shot people, like
Speaker 1: they you know, they waged an enormous terror campaign and
Speaker 1: it worked. And so you know, at a certain point
Speaker 1: you have to start looking at like, okay, so how
Speaker 1: how do you actually, like, how do you actually pressure
Speaker 1: any of the people who are supposed to care about
Speaker 1: this to do literally anything? Right, And it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's probably it's not terrorism, Like that doesn't work. It
Speaker 1: doesn't work for us, right, but you know you didn't
Speaker 1: like it's it. I think I think it comes down
Speaker 1: to a combination of like we have to do it ourselves,
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of protecting people, in terms of
Speaker 1: helping people get abortions in terms of you know, I
Speaker 1: guess we're gonna have to pride access now because and
Speaker 1: then also like it's it's up to us to scare
Speaker 1: them enough that they do the right thing, otherwise they won't. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: That's that's why I'm really curious to see what happens
Speaker 1: in the next couple of days, because aside from just
Speaker 1: stating the obvious, like the President has by saying like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is uncon this is fucked up. Well, what are
Speaker 1: you going to do about it? Are you going to
Speaker 1: articulate as a plan to begin to try and offset that?
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people will be looking
Speaker 1: closely because are already like in a situation where you
Speaker 1: look at your like, you guys have all this power
Speaker 1: and majorities and things like that, but I don't. We
Speaker 1: don't see much movement, And you're allowing a lot of
Speaker 1: things like just saying like pinning it all on mansion
Speaker 1: in cinema to be like, well, god, if they weren't there,
Speaker 1: you know, that's just such an easy out, and it
Speaker 1: really does smack of just the will's not there if
Speaker 1: it's purely just two people, or you know, it's much
Speaker 1: larger than that. But if you're gonna if the narrative
Speaker 1: that you're constructing is like this one guy, I mean
Speaker 1: god right, folks America, huh, Like that's that doesn't communicate
Speaker 1: the will to me that you really trying to do
Speaker 1: everything you can to to further this agenda forward. That
Speaker 1: would actually be a benefit to you know, the majority
Speaker 1: of the country, and the Supreme Court may have put
Speaker 1: a stay on this like law or like suspended this
Speaker 1: law by the time you're listening to this episode. But
Speaker 1: even if that happens, a lot of people are saying
Speaker 1: that they suspect what's happening here is that the Supreme
Speaker 1: is letting this law go into effect as sort of
Speaker 1: a weather balloon to see what the reaction is. Because they're,
Speaker 1: like we've talked about before, the they are not a
Speaker 1: you know, an abstract body of like higher beings who
Speaker 1: just judge based on pure reason. They are political actors.
Speaker 1: That is a political part it is. It is the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court is political, and so um people suspect that,
Speaker 1: you know, as there getting ready to make the decision
Speaker 1: to try and functionally overturned Row, this is a helpful,
Speaker 1: like kind of early weather balloon to see like how
Speaker 1: what the reaction is, how bad the blowback is before
Speaker 1: they do that, and also will probably help them strategize
Speaker 1: when they ultimately do what they're what they're talking about doing.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure they're also aware that if it goes
Speaker 1: over badly enough then and people start talking about packing
Speaker 1: the court, then that would be bad for their power.
Speaker 1: And so, you know, because they're essentially like the parent
Speaker 1: in the middle of a culture war argument where it's like,
Speaker 1: I think you abortions. I don't think you show abortions, dad,
Speaker 1: And then they what is it? Well, guess what, we're
Speaker 1: a six three conservative majority. Guess how we're gonna side
Speaker 1: with it and move on. And that's really like how
Speaker 1: all this ship is playing out constantly. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean between you know, the media has been a very
Speaker 1: like soft touch. I feel like with like what they've
Speaker 1: been saying, they're like, oh wow, it's extreme, but like
Speaker 1: not a lot of outrage, you know, but just merely
Speaker 1: describing it as unconstitutional, rather than saying like this is
Speaker 1: completely against everything you know that you thought whatever whatever
Speaker 1: you thought of America was, but just in general what
Speaker 1: a civil society would do. This is not it and
Speaker 1: this should not be happening at all. And this is
Speaker 1: the most extreme bill that we have on the books
Speaker 1: right now. But you know, again, it's just a it's
Speaker 1: a slow moving process. But I'm really curious toe what
Speaker 1: happens over the next twenty four hours. Really yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think it's like, you know, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: the thing like that there probably will be protests, but
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, if if people if if a
Speaker 1: month of people get in the street and like walk
Speaker 1: from A to B, it doesn't matter, like it just
Speaker 1: doesn't like you know, and you know, so and if
Speaker 1: the reaction is there's a few protests but people sort
Speaker 1: of give up, like you know, it about nothing will happen.
Speaker 1: But if the reaction is like I don't know, like
Speaker 1: people start shutting down airports or like you know, like
Speaker 1: happening like teen or you know, God God helped them,
Speaker 1: like people like you know, people decided to like shut
Speaker 1: down the Port of Los Angeles or something right right,
Speaker 1: which is which is the thing that is like that
Speaker 1: is possible, you know, it is extremely unlikely like if
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff starts happening, like yeah, they're gonna
Speaker 1: they will roll it back less like more damage happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is something you guys talked about on one of
Speaker 1: the episodes that it could happen here that you know,
Speaker 1: people underestimate the effectiveness of a general strike, and like
Speaker 1: the media really keeps keeps that. Yeah, like they don't
Speaker 1: really talk that much about it. But when the flight
Speaker 1: attendants threatened to strike, like when during the government shut down,
Speaker 1: the government was opened back up and like a few
Speaker 1: hours after after being shut down for how many days,
Speaker 1: like an unprecedented like link, because you know, they knew
Speaker 1: how wildly unpopular it was going to be for people
Speaker 1: to have their vacations taken away from them. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think one more thing on that is that like
Speaker 1: you know, specifically, like the reason it worked with that
Speaker 1: flight attendants could do this is because they're they're specific
Speaker 1: like logistics sectors that are extremely vulnerable, like specifically like
Speaker 1: air transport and then also shipping and you know rail
Speaker 1: lines and stuff like that. And you know, like large,
Speaker 1: large scale general strikes are really hard, but you can
Speaker 1: effectively get rid of like a similar number of people's
Speaker 1: labor by just blocking the products from getting anywhere and
Speaker 1: so or you know, like stop stopping the trying the
Speaker 1: system you can. You can you can effectively stop enormous
Speaker 1: numbers of people of labor, even if enormous numbers of
Speaker 1: people people's labor, even if you don't have like the
Speaker 1: resources you need to like immediately carry out of general strike. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that that kind of stuff is I guess, like, yeah, possible,
Speaker 1: and you know, probably what's necessary if this isn't just
Speaker 1: gonna run through and steamroll us all mhmm. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just happening at a time where people it's you know,
Speaker 1: the timing couldn't be worse or more perfect, depending on
Speaker 1: how you're looking at because you're already just the level
Speaker 1: of despair that's just generally being felt throughout the fucking
Speaker 1: planet really all time high, and you know, I think
Speaker 1: people are more hopeless, but I don't know. No recent
Speaker 1: like pandemic Pole, it teemed like people were more like
Speaker 1: resilient or more aware of what they had to do
Speaker 1: in terms of getting through a pandemic. So I don't
Speaker 1: know how much that translates here, but you'd hope on
Speaker 1: some level there's enough outrage left in the tank. That
Speaker 1: was my favorite. I mean, I I don't put any
Speaker 1: stock in polls, but just the idea of people being
Speaker 1: less hopeful, more energized like those that I think that
Speaker 1: needs to be what America is. It is not like
Speaker 1: hope implies like you know, things are going to get
Speaker 1: better into like independent of what we do, and like
Speaker 1: that has been proven time and again that that's not true.
Speaker 1: Like there needs to be all right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back
Speaker 1: and a Albaace, an Alabama town. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I said, I like that town in Alabama where Trump
Speaker 1: had his rally ten days ago, is you know, struggling
Speaker 1: a little bit. We we said at the time that
Speaker 1: experts were saying, cancel this ship. The surge is too bad.
Speaker 1: And they were like, yeah, okay, experts, And how's that
Speaker 1: working out for the months? I mean, it's just fucked up.
Speaker 1: In ten days or so after they had this huge rally,
Speaker 1: you're just seeing now there's just a big increase. The
Speaker 1: state saw a sixtent increase in hospitalizations. The Coleman County
Speaker 1: where this rally was saw increase. And you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's just a situation where the schools are even like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're with the masks come on now, Like that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a choice for the parents to decide if they
Speaker 1: want that for their kids. And when you hear like
Speaker 1: there were like local health advocates and experts who were saying, like,
Speaker 1: you know, can you tie these increased hospitalizations and things
Speaker 1: like that to this rally? They said, quote, there were
Speaker 1: people I can assure you that said, by golly, I'm
Speaker 1: going to see that Trump rally. I've been way on
Speaker 1: this forever. I guarantee you there were people there that
Speaker 1: were sick. I mean in the vaccination rate in that
Speaker 1: specific places about thirty. So all those things coupled together,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, this is kind of a bad outcome.
Speaker 1: But interestingly enough, first for an area where they're like, well,
Speaker 1: we're never going to make people wear masks like or
Speaker 1: like you know, vaccines, like we're not going to really
Speaker 1: talk about it. Suddenly the school board explained, like you
Speaker 1: know facebook post, he said, quote, where we respect the
Speaker 1: choice of parents in regards to masks, these preventative steps
Speaker 1: are necessary to slow the spread of COVID. This mandate
Speaker 1: will be for two weeks, beginning Monday, August and expiring
Speaker 1: on Friday, September tent at the end of the school day.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, wow, okay, because one week would
Speaker 1: have been overkilled to have masks going on in the
Speaker 1: middle of the pandemic. But yeah, it's just one of
Speaker 1: those things where suddenly it's sort it's hard to keep
Speaker 1: up with that same rhetoric when you're looking at just
Speaker 1: the real life outcomes that are happening in their dealing
Speaker 1: with that. By the way, kids are the least resistant
Speaker 1: people to masks, like in in the country, by the way,
Speaker 1: they're like they because it's just like yeah, they they're adaptable.
Speaker 1: They don't give a ship like there, oh this is
Speaker 1: gonna keep me from getting sick. Okay, I'll wear a
Speaker 1: mask and deal with it. It's in my experience, it's
Speaker 1: the anyone over the age of fifty really seems to
Speaker 1: have a very difficult time with it. So, well, that's
Speaker 1: that's horrible, very predictable, unfortunately. So let's talk about Seinfeld,
Speaker 1: the show about Nothing, the show that occupies a large
Speaker 1: part of my brain just remembering Seinfeld and Simpson's jokes.
Speaker 1: Are you know that that's just like there on a
Speaker 1: cycle somewhere in the back of my brain at all
Speaker 1: times and just like sometimes my brain burps it up
Speaker 1: like from my unconscious and it's like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: do remember that, and that it has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with anything that I'm thinking about right now what is
Speaker 1: wrong with me? But a new generation is going to
Speaker 1: get introduced to Seinfeld because Seinfeld's time on Hulu is
Speaker 1: nearing an end this summer, and I guess it vanished
Speaker 1: off the platform in June and people were like, what happened?
Speaker 1: But next millennials, Yeah, you know, especially like my stories whatever,
Speaker 1: they go. Yeah, I I had no idea because I
Speaker 1: wasn't really keeping track of the bidding wars over Seinfeld.
Speaker 1: But Netflix paid five million dollars to get that on
Speaker 1: their old platform. That's the office money. Now. I don't
Speaker 1: know is that have the same appeal. I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 1: I'm really curious what that actually if that's a good
Speaker 1: business decision or just nearly because it's on Netflix, people
Speaker 1: are just gonna be like, oh cool, have you seen
Speaker 1: this show? Signed Netflix? Now? It's pretty fun. I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like what do they I don't I'm I guess the
Speaker 1: projections are strong enough that they felt it was worth that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I hope a part of me is like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'd watch that, But then I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: do you have the energy where I would like navigate
Speaker 1: to Netflix to watch Seinfeld because I damn sure I
Speaker 1: didn't do it with Hulu. But yeah, no, wonder maybe
Speaker 1: this would be Billie Eilish's new favorite show because the like,
Speaker 1: when you look at the streaming numbers, like Netflix is like,
Speaker 1: I I feel like there's a big part of people,
Speaker 1: a big part of the country where they when they
Speaker 1: think streaming, they just think Netflix. Like that's just Netflix
Speaker 1: has like taken that corner of people's brain and so
Speaker 1: it just always they always go to Netflix and they
Speaker 1: only have Netflix of the streaming services that that's what
Speaker 1: the numbers seem to indicate. There's Netflix really dwarfs the competition.
Speaker 1: So it'll be it'll be interesting to see if this,
Speaker 1: you know, combo Seinfeld on Netflix is is going to
Speaker 1: like make Seinfeld Davy National Institution again. Right the press release,
Speaker 1: it was really interesting they said, like the credits that
Speaker 1: they gave their like it's including Julia Louis Dreyfus from
Speaker 1: Troll and Family Ties and Jason Alexander from Pretty Woman.
Speaker 1: I'm like, is this from the fucking eight Like who
Speaker 1: is that? A bit like are they doing it like
Speaker 1: this is what it said back then or they just
Speaker 1: really I forgot about deep it could be. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm this is just like an extract from
Speaker 1: like an excerpt from like an article I was reading.
Speaker 1: But I mean they're saying like you know, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be like they're giving them the whole run of like
Speaker 1: when it started to when it ended, and like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be on starting October one. It's just a very
Speaker 1: odd Maybe someone just didn't give a funk when they're
Speaker 1: putting the press release together. Yeah, it's really weird because
Speaker 1: like I figured it was like, oh, this is like
Speaker 1: this is people like me who were like either like
Speaker 1: very very young. I'm like like I'm like on the
Speaker 1: border of like millennial GenZ and like I wonder if
Speaker 1: it's because my usually something like oh this is this
Speaker 1: is the zoomers to watch this, But like why that
Speaker 1: the press release makes no sense with the trying to
Speaker 1: get the boomers to watch I mean the zoomors to
Speaker 1: watch it. It completely the funneled, you know, Jason Alexander
Speaker 1: from Pretty Woman, Like I mean, in my mind, I'm like, sure,
Speaker 1: Jason Alexander from I mean he was always playing bit
Speaker 1: parts and things, so it was like a monster right
Speaker 1: like him Pretty Woman, wasn't he like just a complete
Speaker 1: misogynistic piece of shit? So it's like, uh, you know
Speaker 1: he was in that one sexual predator from Curb. That
Speaker 1: would be funny if they were thrown out Curb. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean he like he was the gargoyle, Hugo,
Speaker 1: and hunchback of Notre Dame. He was a voice of like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you what credits you really put
Speaker 1: for Jason Alexander, You're like, oh shit, right him the
Speaker 1: guy from Cone Heads who was the neighbor who had
Speaker 1: the two pay like sure. But for Michael Richards, they
Speaker 1: did cite his performance at the Laugh Factory as his
Speaker 1: one credit that everybody hears, but they didn't go post
Speaker 1: because Seinfeld. All right, well, it is officially September, which
Speaker 1: means it's time to bring on the pumpkin spice madness baby.
Speaker 1: Starbucks already rolled out their fall menu, including the Pumpkin
Speaker 1: Spice Latte back at the end of August. They also
Speaker 1: unveiled a new Pumpkin Love Ometer. Pumpkin love omter, what
Speaker 1: is I think it's just mas how much people want
Speaker 1: to suck pumpkins. Probably, what do you even do? How
Speaker 1: does this meter function? Dude? Stipped? You touch it? You
Speaker 1: just fucking declare your love for pumpkin anything. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: headed there right now, Miles, So I can tell you
Speaker 1: are not supported great side. So they're going for you.
Speaker 1: Biquity huh find out where you fall? Okay, I will,
Speaker 1: So you go on here. It says, oh, take the quiz,
Speaker 1: buzz quiz. I'm good. Yeah, there's two things that everybody's
Speaker 1: talking about loving is BuzzFeed quizzes and pumpkin spice latte,
Speaker 1: and everything's just coming out. I just also to like dunking,
Speaker 1: there's their ships coming out earlier than normal, because I
Speaker 1: remember it last year in the middle of the pandemic
Speaker 1: when pumpkin spice everything season came around. I feel like
Speaker 1: everyone was like, dude, what what day is it? Pumpkin who?
Speaker 1: And I think maybe this time, since we had somewhat
Speaker 1: of we were outside more like I'm I'm realizing it's
Speaker 1: fall again. But they feel I feel like they just
Speaker 1: keep starting it earlier and earlier and earlier, Like it's
Speaker 1: it's like it's large, it's longer than the actual season
Speaker 1: of fall or winter combined. Right, Yeah, they go they
Speaker 1: go deep. The quiz sucks, so I'll just put it
Speaker 1: at that. They're like, how much do you love pumpkin spices?
Speaker 1: Is it like so much? Do you like do you
Speaker 1: have wet dreams about pumpkin spice lattees? Bro come on, like,
Speaker 1: there's no option that's not that has that is like
Speaker 1: a tasteful, non pumpkin spice horny version. So that's the fun.
Speaker 1: They're Duncan rolled out there, pumpkinywhares even earlier Starbucks on
Speaker 1: August and one of the kind of wild new products.
Speaker 1: We've got what We'll give you two in reverse order
Speaker 1: of how ill conceived they are. So we have Hungry
Speaker 1: Howie's Pizza releasing pumpkin spice Howie Bread, which is just
Speaker 1: like kind of a sweet you know, how Hungry how He's. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like a pizza place. It's around Oh really, Yeah, damn,
Speaker 1: I've never desecrated my insides with a Hungry Howi's pizza.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's not great. Anyone anyone who's doing pumpkin spice.
Speaker 1: Howee bread, I'm like that business. Yeah, get over there,
Speaker 1: But it doesn't it doesn't seem that bad because it
Speaker 1: is a sweet like a sweetbread, and they're giving you
Speaker 1: the photo looks like it comes with a ranch dip.
Speaker 1: But I guess that's how you saying. So that's good.
Speaker 1: Fuck you just do a ranch. Yeah you know that's
Speaker 1: just got full ranch America's two favorite flavors combined. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where's pumpkin spice? Ranch? Thank you? Budweiser announced a new
Speaker 1: pumpkin spice flavor of Bud Light Seltzer. So yeah, because
Speaker 1: I mean, their customer base is mostly given up, so
Speaker 1: it makes makes sense. What uh that's that's a bridge
Speaker 1: too far for me. I think you don't. We don't
Speaker 1: have to. Don't funk with the seltzers making it all
Speaker 1: flanneled out with your pumpkin spice. The Seltzers are supposed
Speaker 1: to be like light and crisp, not like warm and savory, right, Like,
Speaker 1: does anybody want a like warm feeling from their seltzer? No?
Speaker 1: Certainly not something that like I associate with like dairy.
Speaker 1: I mean, as a seltzer, you're like, I don't know
Speaker 1: thing I envision a lot of creaminess or something like
Speaker 1: that to that flavor. So they also have a flannel
Speaker 1: pack that also includes other like Fall inspired flavors for
Speaker 1: the bud Light Seltz including apple maple, toasted marshmallow, toasted smellow.
Speaker 1: Now when they say fall inspired, they're talking about this
Speaker 1: season and not the general just fall of America of mankind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like this goes very bread and
Speaker 1: pumpkin spice. Pumpkin spice, bread and circuses were get This
Speaker 1: next product is Fall of the human species inspired. It
Speaker 1: is the winner of the year of worst idea for
Speaker 1: a pumpkin spice product. A Cup of Noodles is releasing
Speaker 1: Pumpkin Spice Ramen Noodles. The promo photo has a cup
Speaker 1: in the hand of a reanimated corpse whose arm is
Speaker 1: poking through their own marked grave, poking through a bunch
Speaker 1: of leaves. And I'm just gonna read the description of
Speaker 1: the product that came from the company. There's a fine
Speaker 1: line between genius and insanity. Care to cross it with
Speaker 1: us Cup Noodles? So it's not Cup of noodle is
Speaker 1: it's just cup noodles Noodles. Cup Noodles jumps on the
Speaker 1: Pumpkin Spice Crazy Train with a special pumpkin seasoning that's
Speaker 1: the perfect blend of sweet, savory and spiced. These saucy
Speaker 1: noodles are ready with just a splash of water in
Speaker 1: four minutes in the microwave for the full pumpkin spice experience.
Speaker 1: Top it with whipped cream for the quickest, tastiest, and
Speaker 1: most outlandish pumpkin spice, and a cup experience you never
Speaker 1: knew you needed coming to select Walmart's in October, and
Speaker 1: then in parentheses to close it out. Yes, really, I'm
Speaker 1: really I have a problem with this image because it's
Speaker 1: meant to evoke some like Night of the Living Dead ship,
Speaker 1: but it's like that's what so you wanna evoke like
Speaker 1: corpses coming out of the ground. Being like, we love
Speaker 1: this product because it's certainly not supposed to be like
Speaker 1: HALLOWEENI I guess, or maybe it is. It's it's they're
Speaker 1: doing a lot, doing a lot. Yeah. The only explanation
Speaker 1: I could think of is like that's the hands of
Speaker 1: the person who invented Ramen and they're like trying to
Speaker 1: drag it back to hell with them, right the original
Speaker 1: like the guy who came up with cup noodles like
Speaker 1: instant noodle thing. He's like, this isn't what it was
Speaker 1: meant for. It's Jonathan Gold the food critic. Sorry he's not,
Speaker 1: he's just you know, but yeah, this is a but
Speaker 1: you know what the funny thing is, I remember when
Speaker 1: the takeout they got like a promo box and this
Speaker 1: ship they said it was good cup noodles. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I I will take the takeouts enthusiasm for junk food
Speaker 1: to a point. And this is that point. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they had if I don't know
Speaker 1: if they topped their noodles with whipped cream like you
Speaker 1: know all you know all Asian people love to top
Speaker 1: their noodles with whipped cream. Behind that really easily. Like
Speaker 1: my grandmother saw this, she would, you know what those noodles,
Speaker 1: You know what this noodle dish needs lactose, some LATAs
Speaker 1: and sugar. And then Native Deodorant actually scrapped their pumpkin
Speaker 1: spice products and announced the decision with a giant ad
Speaker 1: in the New York Times a few weeks ago. So
Speaker 1: that's how you know it's fully like run its course?
Speaker 1: Is that just canceling a pumpkin spice like a gimmick
Speaker 1: product gets you. It is actually like a marketing campaign.
Speaker 1: So oh, but their whole thing is like, we don't
Speaker 1: funk with it, right, We're off this ship by Native
Speaker 1: Deodorant clever Lean. The other way, the that says you
Speaker 1: have bad taste pumpkins stinking like pumpkin spice latte over
Speaker 1: our clean bodies. Who was your idea in the first place?
Speaker 1: We didn't like make you do it? What are you
Speaker 1: talking about? All right? Boy? Wow, it's I'm just like
Speaker 1: trying to read like the fine print of it. It's
Speaker 1: like they're really trying to be like, we did you
Speaker 1: a solid dude. Yeah, I I this is It's just
Speaker 1: so funny like how like over the years when this
Speaker 1: time of year comes around, how I just get like
Speaker 1: more and more dejected by it. Like it's not like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, right, because it used to just be this
Speaker 1: thing where like I remember back at the at the
Speaker 1: old office, DJ Daniel was like, it's pumpkin spice season, baby,
Speaker 1: and that was just more like okay, right, he's working
Speaker 1: with it. And then the next year like it started
Speaker 1: being like oh my god man, we got pumpkin spice. Everything.
Speaker 1: Nineteen was like we're moving it up three weeks and
Speaker 1: we got pumpkin spice socks, and then like no one
Speaker 1: gave a funk, but like they're still like trying to
Speaker 1: ramp the volume up. And then this year it's like, please,
Speaker 1: pumpkin spice, you're fucked up getting your uber and go home.
Speaker 1: You don't need to, you're just anything. You're making me
Speaker 1: sad by showing up every year, reminding me of the
Speaker 1: lack of other progress we have. But that's the That's
Speaker 1: how American capitalism works. Is it like defines a like
Speaker 1: good feeling and then finds a way to like graft
Speaker 1: some sort of product onto it and like kind of
Speaker 1: commoditize it until we feel like it's cheap. And the
Speaker 1: love of fall now feels cheap right right, season of
Speaker 1: time passing and enjoying that we've turned it into a
Speaker 1: flavor that you can desecrate your noodles with. Now you
Speaker 1: can't look at like pictures of viewing your family and
Speaker 1: like changing leaves without being like that looks like a
Speaker 1: pumpkin spice latte. Ad. Oh my god, save us. We
Speaker 1: will with market economy. With market economics, baby, just sell
Speaker 1: us your kid and we'll be good. Christopher. Such a
Speaker 1: pleasure having you, ma'am. Where can people find you and
Speaker 1: follow you? Yeah, I'm at me c hr three on
Speaker 1: Twitter or I must be destroyed. Guy, I yeah, I
Speaker 1: worked for clothes on media now so follow them on Twitter. Yes,
Speaker 1: at cools on media. Um, I'm also yeah, I work
Speaker 1: upon the pastards that working. It could happen here and
Speaker 1: yeah it was fine. Fine, shows that everybody should be
Speaker 1: checking out listening to Yah. Is there a tweet or
Speaker 1: some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh? Man, okay,
Speaker 1: so did you see there? There's there's this reddit post.
Speaker 1: There were a bunch of a bunch of provacts. People
Speaker 1: took over the art slash. This is the this is
Speaker 1: the mote worm realizing I've never actually heard the name
Speaker 1: of the horse drug set out loud, I ever mectioned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they took of it the arch and I mection sub reddit.
Speaker 1: And there there's the one post that was raged against
Speaker 1: the vaccine. Some of those that work forces want the
Speaker 1: paces for horses. Yes, what did they do? They took
Speaker 1: over the the subreddit and just like what did they do?
Speaker 1: They just post it? Yeah, just like ship posted like
Speaker 1: proceed pro vaccine stuff and posted some of those that workforces.
Speaker 1: What the pace that's for horses. It's good stuff, It's
Speaker 1: that's great. And they're also there uh subs that are
Speaker 1: like basically boycotting Reddit for the day to get try
Speaker 1: and get them to take down all the misleading bullshit.
Speaker 1: I think the actors they apparently when I reloaded the
Speaker 1: page for this memeless, I think they rented that the
Speaker 1: subred has been quarantined, so I guess it's maybe working,
Speaker 1: but Ernie who knows. Yeah, we had quite to quarantine
Speaker 1: the subreddit for ten days till they got a negative test.
Speaker 1: Miles where can people find you? What's the tweet you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Find me Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 1: Also the other show for twenty Day Fiance a with
Speaker 1: Sophia Alexander. If you like ninety day Fiance, come through.
Speaker 1: Got our takes weekly And a tweet that I like
Speaker 1: is from at Rossi Songo. It says Tyra used to
Speaker 1: chop girl's hair off and we'd be at home, like, girl,
Speaker 1: stop crying? Do you want to be on top or not?
Speaker 1: Just a very dark time, truly, like it was just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the way be abused to get to the top. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's see. Uh. Swamp Monster tweeted, my uncle lives in
Speaker 1: the place and we hadn't been able to contact him
Speaker 1: since landfall of Hurricane Ida. Motherfucker just walked in our
Speaker 1: front door and said, I'm alive, bitches and so. In
Speaker 1: response to this news story about upon reviewing her vaccination card,
Speaker 1: twenty four year old Chloe Razac allegedly misspelled maderna m
Speaker 1: m A d e r n a mad drrenrna mad derna,
Speaker 1: and Tara Dublin said mad Derna is literally what my
Speaker 1: grandma Dorothy called Madonna in the eighties, Marna, Oh my god.
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Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a song that we think
Speaker 1: you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, what song do we think
Speaker 1: people might enjoy on this fine Thursday? Okay, so this
Speaker 1: is a track called Wolf by Still Woozy. It's just
Speaker 1: interesting interesting music. I mean, like it's like this guy
Speaker 1: is kind of like on his It's like it's like
Speaker 1: a genre. It's hard to put your finger on, but
Speaker 1: it's a fun us and it's got good singing in it.
Speaker 1: It's got a little lovely, lovely beat to it, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I just just just try something new on This is
Speaker 1: called still Woozy with the track wolf w o o
Speaker 1: app it's lovely m hm. Alright, Well real quick, y'all.
Speaker 1: We're gonna finally do on a streaming corner on tomorrow's
Speaker 1: episode Friday episode where we're gonna discuss the season one
Speaker 1: of White Lotus. Now that everybody is at a chance
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