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Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by very funny stand up comedian, writer, actor,
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Speaker 1: breakout star by Time Out New York. He created and
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Speaker 1: eight comedians for eight hours about the show Making a Murderer,
Speaker 1: but didn't tell his guests that he'd never seen Making
Speaker 1: a Murderer. Uh. He also wrote and put on a
Speaker 1: satirical plague Glingarry Glenn Beck was the writer behind the
Speaker 1: Twitter hashtag roof Breakup, which was a viral sensation that
Speaker 1: was read by ten million people and hansome to this day.
Speaker 1: Please welcome to the show, the hilarious Kyle, thank you
Speaker 1: for having me again, Welcome, Welcome up with the song
Speaker 1: but I couldn't think of any I was just gonna go.
Speaker 1: It's been one Week since I got in a fight
Speaker 1: with someone in a Twitter reply, but it has banks
Speaker 1: about ironically, their avatar was a bar Naked lady, so
Speaker 1: that's probably there you go. I find it hard to
Speaker 1: believe that you would struggle to come up with a
Speaker 1: musical A k A. You seem very musical, Kyle. I
Speaker 1: see the instruments behind you. We've spoken about your love
Speaker 1: of music. I do. Was it really that hard? Dozens
Speaker 1: of It was hard to come up with one that
Speaker 1: wasn't One Week by Barnaked Ladies. I guess, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you've got. That's the only song I know how to
Speaker 1: plan on all of these harmonicas. I have a blues
Speaker 1: traveler singer vest but just to play the first four
Speaker 1: seconds of one Week by bar Naked Waves by harmonicas.
Speaker 1: So the have you talked about hashtag roof breakup on
Speaker 1: on this? I don't know it. It is such a
Speaker 1: bizarre thing in my life. Yeah, it is a Twitter
Speaker 1: thing that I did that went wildly viral but superseded
Speaker 1: threads and retweets and like it was hard. So it
Speaker 1: was just like a series of tweets of people breaking
Speaker 1: up on my roof in Brooklyn, and it like got
Speaker 1: picked up by like BuzzFeed and like Jerry Springer was
Speaker 1: doing re enactments and like Ellen was calling me to
Speaker 1: come do like weird sideshows. It was crazy, but it
Speaker 1: was like before threads and before you know, virality happened
Speaker 1: eight hundred times a day to everything and people. I
Speaker 1: worked at the Apple store and people were coming in
Speaker 1: there like you're the face from the BuzzFeed thing I
Speaker 1: saw today. Wow, I'm like, I'm like, yeah, you spilled
Speaker 1: water on your computer and it's gonna be yeah, And
Speaker 1: it was. So it was just a very you know,
Speaker 1: got a lot of Twitter followers, lost a lot of
Speaker 1: them the moment I tweeted about anything else and hurt
Speaker 1: me because I think, you know, they robots follow these
Speaker 1: like viral people and stuff and it's great. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a crazy thing and every once in a
Speaker 1: while still pops up. I don't remember what year it happened,
Speaker 1: seen maybe, but every once in a while, like it'll
Speaker 1: hit a new pocket of the Internet and everyone or
Speaker 1: like a TikTok will recap. Do you remember? Internet things
Speaker 1: are like I like live in the wheelhouse? What color
Speaker 1: was the dress? Do you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: every once in a while, I pop up on like
Speaker 1: if there was an I love those, I think that
Speaker 1: it would probably circle back into that every once in
Speaker 1: a while. I yeah, that's very cool. It was just
Speaker 1: it was just a a twisty tourney break up, just
Speaker 1: some people screaming at each other and I was just
Speaker 1: tweeting what they said, and on a rooftop, on a
Speaker 1: rooftop where I lived, people sent me like a pillow
Speaker 1: like merch they made with like quotes of it embroidered
Speaker 1: in there, and like it became just do you ever
Speaker 1: worked really hard for a really long time and think
Speaker 1: any of that's what will pay off? You ever worked
Speaker 1: really hard for a really long time. I think that's
Speaker 1: what'll do it. And then instead it's not like I
Speaker 1: like work my whole career to like get on Cone
Speaker 1: and right and do this late night set and I
Speaker 1: see it's like, oh, I got seventy thou views, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, us still what BuzzFeed gets from quote
Speaker 1: tweeting me nine weeks ago or whatever? Right? Right, right,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. It's never what you think. Yeah, all right, well, Kyle,
Speaker 1: we're going to get to know you a little bit
Speaker 1: better in a moment. First, just a pre cap of
Speaker 1: a few of the things we're talking about. We're gonna
Speaker 1: check in with the states of Texas and with Governor
Speaker 1: Ron death santence. I don't know, I was trying to
Speaker 1: make it work. Yeah, that's what I see on the
Speaker 1: internet that calm ran the death sentence. Now the and
Speaker 1: Florida and just how how things are going there where
Speaker 1: the vaccine is not even really encouraged but definitely not mandated.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about where we are with kids getting
Speaker 1: vaccinated because the vaccine is still not to prove for
Speaker 1: kids under twelve. They're going back to school, so we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that. It's really like the the anti bactors
Speaker 1: are about to really start fucking things up. Makes me angry.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden got sixty nine votes bro Bipartisan Infrastructure Framework,
Speaker 1: so that's tight. We'll talk about just another story of
Speaker 1: l ap D being completely unaccountable. We'll talk about whether
Speaker 1: Ross and Rachel are owning in real life. I need
Speaker 1: this to be true. We'll talk about we'll talk about
Speaker 1: that that Simbad Genie movie that everybody thinks happened and
Speaker 1: how it has affected the lives of his children, they
Speaker 1: have family friends who insists that it happened to them.
Speaker 1: They're like, no, people who like know our family insists
Speaker 1: that they saw that ship. All of that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first, Kyle, we like to ask our guests, what
Speaker 1: is something from your search history? The last thing I
Speaker 1: searched was did Jackie Kennedy really hate the Queen of England?
Speaker 1: You're you're just watching The Crown, just now making it
Speaker 1: through The Crown. Could not be more fascinated by the
Speaker 1: fact that I'm watching a show that takes place over
Speaker 1: a whole century and this person it's based on is
Speaker 1: still around. Like, just could not be more blown away
Speaker 1: by how irrelevant they've known the monarchy is the entire
Speaker 1: time it's existed. Yeah. Yeah. At the start of her career,
Speaker 1: people are like, yeah, I know this doesn't matter anymore.
Speaker 1: It's like it's dumping you into like two years per
Speaker 1: decade of people saying we have to keep tricking everybody, right,
Speaker 1: And then I watched was the last episode She's like,
Speaker 1: you know what will make sure I'm queen forever if
Speaker 1: I dance with a black person? Right? Yeah, Like, wait,
Speaker 1: what season of The Crown is I've only seen the
Speaker 1: Princess Diana one because for the most one or two,
Speaker 1: I can't remember if it's late one, maybe early second
Speaker 1: season where she needs Ghana is talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: not being part of their whatever giant little conglomerate of
Speaker 1: countries and so empire. Yeah, their empire. Yeah, I'm guessing
Speaker 1: that's what they. Ghana was independent in nineteen fifty seven,
Speaker 1: so it's around then, yes, so somewhere around because it's
Speaker 1: like right when she meets Jackie Kennedy and so Jackie Kennedy,
Speaker 1: everyone's like, she's so charismatic, and the Queen is like
Speaker 1: not tory a sleep not and sort of takes offense
Speaker 1: and so this thing was gone is happening and she
Speaker 1: goes against all of the everyone's instructions and she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Ghana and everyone's like what, and
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm gonna go there, Go there, and then
Speaker 1: she dances with like, uh, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: name of the head of state of Ghana in the
Speaker 1: fifties was, but she dances with them, and it becomes
Speaker 1: like front page, can you believe the queen danced with
Speaker 1: this African person. They're like, she's woke. As fuck to
Speaker 1: do with Ghana either, They're like, she danced with this
Speaker 1: black guy, so that'll show Russia, And I'm like, what
Speaker 1: is there's too many or the Soviet Union. I guess
Speaker 1: it was at the time. Sorry if I offended any Soviets.
Speaker 1: The whole thing is crazy. It's also fake. The real
Speaker 1: world is like happening behind them in the show. And
Speaker 1: I don't think And but I want to know if
Speaker 1: Jackie Kennedy and the Queen really had like a little
Speaker 1: tiff m I did day and no one really knew
Speaker 1: she danced within Chroma that I read all these articles
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, could have been And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: learned nothing. That's great, thank you. Yeah. And the show,
Speaker 1: Jackie Kennedy like gets drunk at a party and is
Speaker 1: just talking about how pathetic the Queen is. Um, She's
Speaker 1: like she got the funniest thing you could say is
Speaker 1: I was at Buckinging Palace. The art is so old,
Speaker 1: that's like, what's like, yeah, it's a huge part of
Speaker 1: its kind of she's like consulting it. She's like that
Speaker 1: queen is so traditional, right, Yeah. Man, she's named after
Speaker 1: a chess piece. Yeah, became because of the way narrative works.
Speaker 1: I'm like, she better shut up about the queen. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm like for the queen whole time. I hope that.
Speaker 1: I hope the Queen gets a little more attention. Right,
Speaker 1: she's trapped by the monarchy. Guys, you have to understand
Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? I overrated? I
Speaker 1: wrote quote tweet dragging political pundits because then I got
Speaker 1: to see it. But I still do it, but then
Speaker 1: I gotta see it. It's like a throwing a softball. Due.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, Can we just relaxed? Can I
Speaker 1: if if I go forever without Ben Shapiro being directed,
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's is he gonna read one
Speaker 1: and just be like that's a good fuck. They're right,
Speaker 1: this is a good point. I am sure, or like whatever, yeah,
Speaker 1: now's I do what. I'm guilty of it and trying
Speaker 1: to not do it as hey man, it's like, look,
Speaker 1: you're you're a sluther man. When you got that bat
Speaker 1: in your hands, it doesn't matter if it's just a
Speaker 1: fastball right over the plate or a nice underhander for
Speaker 1: you to crush out of the park. You're swinging, baby,
Speaker 1: You're sure, I would say a Ben Shapiro tweet would
Speaker 1: be steroids in this metaphor, then let me just continue
Speaker 1: to try and have the first half of Barry Bond's
Speaker 1: career right, needing these and crushing a Ben Shapiro tweet,
Speaker 1: is you on performance enhancing drugs with a corked bat
Speaker 1: and like a rubber cord ball that will and then
Speaker 1: like someone I grew up with seeing his tweets and
Speaker 1: agreeing with him. That's like Mark McGuire in front of Congress.
Speaker 1: So just or that's the home run ball bouncing off
Speaker 1: of Jose Canseco's head, right right right, just unasked for
Speaker 1: consequence of the entire thing. Yeah, it wouldn't it be
Speaker 1: great if we just never saw another tweet from him?
Speaker 1: And then in like seven years people treated it like
Speaker 1: this in bed thing, They're just like, yeah, no, nobody
Speaker 1: named Ben shapirover because yeah, they're like what he's like, No,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very much real. I'm the guy would who
Speaker 1: said whap was bad? Remember what? And me and no,
Speaker 1: it's an outrage anyway, I'm here at home depot to
Speaker 1: buy my plank of wood. Do you remember that part?
Speaker 1: That one? He that one we had some fun with Wait,
Speaker 1: what was the plague? Would I mean you? He went
Speaker 1: to home Depot in some stunt because Home Depot donated
Speaker 1: to Trump's campaign, So everyone was like, so he went
Speaker 1: to home Depot and bought one plank of wood and
Speaker 1: carried it out in a plastic bag like a literal,
Speaker 1: like a shelf, like an unfinished shelf, not a human being,
Speaker 1: and was just like, I I went, I went to
Speaker 1: home Depot, and you you have to support this business
Speaker 1: part of patriotic company. And he holds up a board. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you couldn't. It's just weird, how okay, Like I
Speaker 1: get you have to. I'm not no shame and not
Speaker 1: knowing what to get at a home depot or that
Speaker 1: you've ever been in a home depot. But like the
Speaker 1: thought process is so funny. He's like, I will demonstrate
Speaker 1: that I'm doing ship at home depot. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: they still just pieces of loose wood here. Okay, you
Speaker 1: know he called it one loose wood? Yeah. Can I
Speaker 1: get a Lucy Lucy real quick? I gotta get a pack. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh you're saying, guys are showing Lucy's around the corner.
Speaker 1: All right, maybe I'll just do that. Can I get
Speaker 1: a bag, then just a bag, put it in there.
Speaker 1: Then it's just in one bag and he's holding the
Speaker 1: plastic wellsh it doesn't fit at all because it's a
Speaker 1: giant board and it's in it's in a you know
Speaker 1: if you carried like I can't even use another exam
Speaker 1: people to describe it because we can all picture this
Speaker 1: in his absolutely nuts and he's just like you gotta
Speaker 1: support him. Yeah, hey, he's keeping he's keeping that young, plucky,
Speaker 1: up start home depot business. The other thing is, I'm
Speaker 1: actually now that I'm looking at it, it's just this
Speaker 1: plank of wood that he's not He can't even use
Speaker 1: the bag handles to carry it. It's just like a
Speaker 1: like a dick tip condom on this fucking wood. It's
Speaker 1: like the first third of it has a home depot
Speaker 1: plastic bag and he's just holding it on the other end.
Speaker 1: So it's like, what is this back? Even if it
Speaker 1: really looks like how people in l A wear beanies
Speaker 1: in August there, like this is an aesthetic beanie right
Speaker 1: right right, it's more of a yamica than anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's something, but it's definitely not functioning as a bag.
Speaker 1: And just like the grip of it. It's just bless him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had too much fun negating my overrated here by
Speaker 1: doing it after winddle on the wood plank. What what's
Speaker 1: something you think is underrated? Right? Underrated? And then I'm
Speaker 1: gon lest you guys know, I wrote one thing that
Speaker 1: I think is under an overrated, simultaneous perfect underrated, likek
Speaker 1: in popular stuff, that's all right. You could like Marvel
Speaker 1: TV shows. You could like the stuff that everyone likes.
Speaker 1: That's fine, keep doing it. You could like I can't
Speaker 1: think of music. You could like Gaga is gonna beat
Speaker 1: My example, Billie Eilish, Lady Gaga, old my. But you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's fine. You can like Billy Joel. Yeah
Speaker 1: you can. You guys do like the popular stuff. You
Speaker 1: guys could like Elvis. You guys could like this new
Speaker 1: artist Dolly Parton. You could like whoever. But it's fine.
Speaker 1: Just like the popular stuff. It's fun to like because
Speaker 1: then you get to talk about it with everybody. You
Speaker 1: could like the NBA finals, Watch the NBA Finals and
Speaker 1: like the thing with everybody. It's fine. What's a specific
Speaker 1: thing that sort of inspired this? I think it was
Speaker 1: like everyone was immediately turning on and I haven't watched
Speaker 1: the new Marvel, but everyone's like turning on the Marvel
Speaker 1: TV shows and there is a lot of comic book
Speaker 1: stuff and it's like, but that's okay because everyone likes
Speaker 1: it and it's kind of a nice story, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, there's probably a reason that we're turning to
Speaker 1: like a fantastical version of our own world that does
Speaker 1: get saved. I think there's probably a reason that we're
Speaker 1: all excited about thinking there's some sort of one thing
Speaker 1: that can save the world. And you know, that's all right,
Speaker 1: let him keep making it. People like it enough, it's fine,
Speaker 1: and it's it's interesting because it tells us something about
Speaker 1: people when it's popular that we feel absolutely the work
Speaker 1: of art that nobody pays attention to. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: definitely something too. Everyone's fascination right now. You know, the
Speaker 1: fact that superheroes are so popular is clearly something's going
Speaker 1: on with everybody. Yeah, right, are feelings of hopelessness all
Speaker 1: wrapped into one, do you? I really it's got to
Speaker 1: be something too. You watch a superhero thing and it's
Speaker 1: completely out of your control, and something you've never seen
Speaker 1: shows up and fixes it and you're just like, like
Speaker 1: if if there's like a Marvel, what if like that's
Speaker 1: their show, right, the new one where it's hypotheticals that
Speaker 1: the other stories like a Marvel. What if we're like
Speaker 1: like Tony Stark fixed this climate change or something like that,
Speaker 1: and he's just like, Oh, I found this actually this
Speaker 1: new carbon filter. I think that's sort of whatever one is, like,
Speaker 1: there's gotta be like that thing, where's that unknown science
Speaker 1: or an unknown entity like thor or something that just
Speaker 1: shows up. Sadly, there's only been known science that's been
Speaker 1: telling us for death right, right, I know, some sort
Speaker 1: of like reverse magnifying glass, a big old fan or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's that Simpsons where they blow you
Speaker 1: know What's funny though, I feel like if there were
Speaker 1: in an m c U film, like part of the
Speaker 1: story was about humanity taking this like just gigantic undertaking
Speaker 1: of like changing human global infrastructure to come back. Climate
Speaker 1: change is like a narrative that like that little bit
Speaker 1: of imagination. We're kind of like, so we gotta work
Speaker 1: together to do with the something radical to save our
Speaker 1: plan it. M hm, Let's let's keep going with this.
Speaker 1: Let's keep going with this, but then you have to
Speaker 1: they'd have to have the devil's advocate in there, because
Speaker 1: you've gotta have them. That's a necessary thing that makes
Speaker 1: everything better, is someone making sure the devil has a
Speaker 1: seat at the table. Yeah, who's advocating for the devil here? Right?
Speaker 1: He couldn't make it. He couldn't make it. He tried
Speaker 1: to call in, but he's in a tunnel right now.
Speaker 1: I don't know. This just feels really this feels really
Speaker 1: wrong to be having these conversations without Satan present. But
Speaker 1: even a proxy, if he can even just have a
Speaker 1: proxy here, even if someone can give us a phone
Speaker 1: that we can he can text into and I can
Speaker 1: just act as an agent for on his okay whatever.
Speaker 1: I remember, I felt okay about climate change for like
Speaker 1: a month when I read there was like this. I
Speaker 1: think it was freaking omics. The freakonomics guys were like,
Speaker 1: you know, people used to think that the nd of
Speaker 1: the world was coming because of horse ship being everywhere,
Speaker 1: and then they invented the car. So we'll just have
Speaker 1: like some invention that's gonna like say us. And they
Speaker 1: used like the example of putting things in the atmosphere
Speaker 1: that like reflect the sun light back and then like
Speaker 1: a few months later snow Bears are came out, in
Speaker 1: which like that very thing is like the idea that
Speaker 1: turns into like a ice planet apocalypse, the catalyst that
Speaker 1: pushes us beyond any return. What's You're overrated and underrated?
Speaker 1: So I wrote Nuance. I for I thought nuance was
Speaker 1: underrated at first, and I was like, you know, because
Speaker 1: we spend so much time online. Everyone's like hyper online,
Speaker 1: especially now it feels like a super hyper online, and
Speaker 1: there seems to be no nuance. But really, then you
Speaker 1: meet a person in person, there's like nuance involved. And
Speaker 1: then I was like, man, maybe there's no nuance. Just
Speaker 1: get a vaccine. I don't care, because then I start
Speaker 1: thinking about you listen to there's all these people who
Speaker 1: are anti vax folks like will be like, well and
Speaker 1: and and this happened with this and this, and if
Speaker 1: there's like some tiny nugget of truth involved in something
Speaker 1: that becomes like the pulled thread of not getting a vaccine,
Speaker 1: then I'm like, now there's no nuance. Just get the vaccine.
Speaker 1: I don't care. If you're like grasping onto the tiny
Speaker 1: end of the straw at the bottom of that it's
Speaker 1: not relevant, and so I couldn't figure out where to
Speaker 1: put nuance and so instead I I we talked about
Speaker 1: the crown for seven minutes. Yeah. Uh. Natalie Sure, who's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite like kind of reporter, researcher people
Speaker 1: and just a great follow on Twitter, was pointing out
Speaker 1: that there are like a small, small, small number of
Speaker 1: people who like can't get the vaccine, but like the
Speaker 1: there's also a lot of people who are claiming they
Speaker 1: can't get the vaccine based on like junk science and
Speaker 1: basically like within the world of chronic diseases, like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of junk science being circulated, and so like
Speaker 1: almost everybody can get the vaccine. Like there's a thing
Speaker 1: about live like if there's a live vaccine, like a
Speaker 1: live culture in the vaccine that is like not compatible
Speaker 1: with people who are have like immune issues, but this
Speaker 1: is not one of those, so like that, it's actually
Speaker 1: like basically everybody can get in synthetic RNA with a
Speaker 1: nano lipid layer. Jack, do you know what happens after
Speaker 1: three months or three years with that nanolipid layer. I'm
Speaker 1: making a TikTok that's going to get stitched I'm learning
Speaker 1: about TikTok. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely do deeper research and
Speaker 1: don't do research, actually reach out to a doctor. And
Speaker 1: your research should be finding the smartest person who's devoted
Speaker 1: their life to this and trusting them. That's a lot
Speaker 1: of my frustrations lie in this sort of like a
Speaker 1: no longer having a favorable outlook of education, and it's
Speaker 1: it seems very bizarre to me, And I have jokingly said,
Speaker 1: but I honestly think if you distrust so the nugget
Speaker 1: of nuance, if someone's like I don't trust the government,
Speaker 1: I kind of get that, But if you're using that
Speaker 1: to not get a vaccine, then I'm like, actually, there's
Speaker 1: no nuance. Just get the vaccine. It doesn't count, right,
Speaker 1: I have said ingest and honestly believe, if you hate
Speaker 1: teachers and you hate nurses and you don't trust doctors
Speaker 1: and science is fake, what do you want your kids
Speaker 1: to be? What are they supposed to do? What do
Speaker 1: you want your kid to like? Also just like have
Speaker 1: a hateful YouTube channel like or like and we didn't
Speaker 1: go to space and the moon is fake and I
Speaker 1: just don't understand, like where what are the jobs? What
Speaker 1: do you want your kid to possibly be doing besides
Speaker 1: just being angry like you and and I don't think
Speaker 1: you can like yell at a barista on for work,
Speaker 1: so don't pay that. Well, I don't understand. Maybe he'll
Speaker 1: get a sponsorship from Black Rifle Coffee to yell at
Speaker 1: people in public spaces. I don't know. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think to your point about education, right, like, we've done
Speaker 1: such a great job of making it impossible for people
Speaker 1: to get educated that by virtue of that becoming the
Speaker 1: only way into the middle class or having any kind
Speaker 1: of upwards social mobility in most instances, that that's just
Speaker 1: created a natural resentment for it. And without understanding that
Speaker 1: by design, many people are being shut out of the
Speaker 1: opportunity to be educated. So then it just turns into
Speaker 1: this thing over time of being like, well that's for
Speaker 1: these fucking people who think they're so smart at that
Speaker 1: that that that that, and that's like truly we're seeing
Speaker 1: like all of the machinations and the manifestations of like
Speaker 1: this very concerted effort to defund public education because now
Speaker 1: it's become so unattainable people fucking hate it. And now
Speaker 1: you see people on TikTok just say or wherever, claiming
Speaker 1: to know all this ship or whatever and be so contrarian,
Speaker 1: because you know, that's just the way that this cruel
Speaker 1: fucking society set up too. So just like at every
Speaker 1: turn you're like, oh my god, everything is just a
Speaker 1: reflection of how we're failing people. It really seemed like
Speaker 1: it could just fester just below the surface as long
Speaker 1: as we didn't need everyone to agree on something. Ever again,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately we and even the way that conversations happen
Speaker 1: about it are so is so wildly frustrating because it's
Speaker 1: it's almost like robots are having the conversation. So I
Speaker 1: saw the video that I think you were referencing where
Speaker 1: it's like someone giving this crazy terrible information, like a scientist,
Speaker 1: where there's like playing in the background and a scientist
Speaker 1: is sort of like then there's like the it's like
Speaker 1: stitch next to one of them with a scientists who's
Speaker 1: saying that's true. This is not just like fact checking it.
Speaker 1: But you read and I hate this, Like you read
Speaker 1: the comments on the scientist fact checking it, and people
Speaker 1: are like, well, you're allowed to. There are two sides
Speaker 1: to what you believe, and there is very wrong this
Speaker 1: person is entitled what she thinks about it, but you're
Speaker 1: not if it's facts, like that's what's everything has just
Speaker 1: become equal weight and it just says and how it works,
Speaker 1: and it makes it insane and you can tell any
Speaker 1: won't talk to a lot of people most days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm curious to also figure out, like, at what point
Speaker 1: then they they're able to trust something about science, Like
Speaker 1: you're using a microwave, you use WiFi, you use a
Speaker 1: self so, like you got a lot of vaccines. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep exploring that you're eating processed food, at
Speaker 1: what point do you put your sort of lens or
Speaker 1: spotlight of suspicion on these other things? And if you're not,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand why you don't do it in
Speaker 1: those instances too, because you could you could open up
Speaker 1: all kinds of theories about many of the things that
Speaker 1: we have to interact with on a daily basis, not
Speaker 1: just medical advice or you know, research that at which
Speaker 1: point he goes, yeah, well, I trust that, like I
Speaker 1: trust a T and T I guess I trust corporations.
Speaker 1: I just don't trust this. I think that the end,
Speaker 1: the beginning of the end might have just been one
Speaker 1: loud man who's not around as much anymore, telling people
Speaker 1: what people do and not do. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the although, you know, we we covered that there was
Speaker 1: a lot of vaccine skepticism and resistance after the nineteen
Speaker 1: a leve Than flu that killed more people than this
Speaker 1: one is, and they were just willing to like go
Speaker 1: door to door and be like, let me see the
Speaker 1: vaccine scar on your arm. All right, you have to go.
Speaker 1: You have to get the vaccine. Yeah. Well, the thing
Speaker 1: is that anyone telling me what to do in any
Speaker 1: way is exactly the Holocaust. So right, oh are you
Speaker 1: are you a European historian? Right? Yeah, well I did
Speaker 1: my own research and where is that? Where did you
Speaker 1: do your research? I wrote this down. I just sat down.
Speaker 1: I wrote my feelings down on the back of this.
Speaker 1: But that is like it just has becomes so like
Speaker 1: history is now weaponized in an inaccurate way, and simultaneously
Speaker 1: people believe it didn't happen, and also that it's the
Speaker 1: reason we can't do It's like, yeah, I just feel crazy,
Speaker 1: and so you know that's why sometimes I don't I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's get rid of he wants to make everybody get it,
Speaker 1: but you do feel a little weird saying that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's just because it's we've never been at it
Speaker 1: and lived like this before. We're we're looking at clear
Speaker 1: some biological phenomenon. We're like, it's gonna take radical action
Speaker 1: to actually keep people safe. And when people just aren't
Speaker 1: used to that or don't have the mind for any
Speaker 1: kind of like like reciprocity or sense of community or
Speaker 1: owing something to each other or feeling part of a
Speaker 1: larger community, then yeah, people suddenly immediately go into their
Speaker 1: self interested corners and figure out whatever rationality are, like,
Speaker 1: lock onto whatever rationalization they need to to preserve. They're like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this, yeah, right, I love
Speaker 1: people tell me what to do. Yeah, I make I
Speaker 1: get more time to do other stuff. Well that's because
Speaker 1: you're a sub, right, Yeah, that's fair. I was going
Speaker 1: to say that, I was gonna let you know that
Speaker 1: you're a sub, like just from the start. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to, Yeah, make sure you knew, make sure now
Speaker 1: both tell me I am at the same time. Well
Speaker 1: hold on, now, hold on, no, that's not very You're right,
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, right, all right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break, we'll come back and talk about what's happening
Speaker 1: right now. And we're back. And so I guess, I
Speaker 1: guess that this news just isn't reaching the people who
Speaker 1: we needed to reach. But it's just very clear like
Speaker 1: the states that are like, yeah, you can't tell me
Speaker 1: to get a vaccine, like you can't tell my people
Speaker 1: to mask up are doing very badly now. They're running
Speaker 1: out of hospital beds there having after telling the federal
Speaker 1: government they can't tell them what to do, they are
Speaker 1: then having to ask the federal government for ventilators. And Ye,
Speaker 1: it's just objectively a bad look for for those people,
Speaker 1: a very predictable bad look. But I guess, I guess
Speaker 1: it's just not reaching them. Yeah, it's I don't know
Speaker 1: that this is in Texas and Florida, they have the
Speaker 1: very unfortunate distinction of having governors that like almost seemed like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like they had some fucking vision from
Speaker 1: God to like be on the side of COVID and
Speaker 1: like like it almost like it's like almost truly they're
Speaker 1: on this side of COVID, Like if COVID had a
Speaker 1: seat at the table, they'd be like, hey, man, don't
Speaker 1: make them more masks and ship then I can't get
Speaker 1: my ship on. Don't get funk. They're like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I got you, I got you, got you. Like that's
Speaker 1: quite that's the logic that they're following, like they are
Speaker 1: caping for COVID. So in Texas they've stopped ELEXA elective
Speaker 1: procedures because the hospitals are getting overwhelmed or like, dude,
Speaker 1: we can't even bring people in that aren't like we
Speaker 1: have to focus on the people that are so sick
Speaker 1: with this delta variant that it has to be the priority.
Speaker 1: I see you. Beds are slowly running out at the
Speaker 1: current rate of hospitalization, and they're even less beds for
Speaker 1: like the pediatric intensive care units. Only two beds were
Speaker 1: available out of the two eight five in the North
Speaker 1: Texas area. So in the Dallas area they only had
Speaker 1: two pediatric i CU beds available. Additionally, only about twenty
Speaker 1: eight adult i CU beds are available as hospitals reach
Speaker 1: capacity on Tuesday. So this is uh, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: getting worse and worse. And now they're saying fifteen percent
Speaker 1: of COVID cases are now children in Texas. Not to
Speaker 1: say that fift of hospitalizations are but fifteen percent of
Speaker 1: the positive cases now are children. Yeah, there's something too
Speaker 1: soft about the terminology and people can ignore it. And
Speaker 1: this is I don't even really mean this is a joke,
Speaker 1: but sounds like I'm making pediatric I see. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: resonate with people as much as like almost dying kids
Speaker 1: way child death wards. I know it's absolutely I don't
Speaker 1: think people understand like the severe pty of anything until
Speaker 1: and you know, not to be uh insensitive, but if
Speaker 1: I read one more article about a person who died
Speaker 1: and wish they had got the vaccine on their deathbed, um,
Speaker 1: probably just gonna shot. My god, I don't care. I'm
Speaker 1: losing care for that. But because yeah, because you're our
Speaker 1: empathy goes towards people who are trying to stay safe
Speaker 1: and maybe are unable to be vaccinated or just are
Speaker 1: built bodies are built that they might succumb to the virus,
Speaker 1: and not for those who are just stunting on Instagram
Speaker 1: to say like we're getting the fucking shot and Florida. Also,
Speaker 1: you know, fucking de santists like you know, at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the years, like declaring flawless victory over COVID
Speaker 1: when he's like, hey, dude, I didn't shut down anything.
Speaker 1: Look at the unemployment like we're doing all right. Look
Speaker 1: at me like I think, I think I kind of
Speaker 1: do something right here, And a lot of people are like,
Speaker 1: what the funk is going how? But then the delta
Speaker 1: variants coming through and now it's clear that it's just
Speaker 1: burning through the state. The number of people that are
Speaker 1: requiring hospitalization, that number looks pretty bleak now, which, like
Speaker 1: you're saying, Jack, it got to the point where the
Speaker 1: state was like requesting from Healthy Human Services from the FEDS,
Speaker 1: like we need more ventilators and breathing machines for people.
Speaker 1: Rhonda Santis. He acted again, he knows that's not a
Speaker 1: good headline, saying we're running out of machines that help
Speaker 1: people fucking breathe because their health is so poor. That
Speaker 1: he at a press conference he started, he decided to
Speaker 1: feign ignorance over the whole thing. He said, quote, I've
Speaker 1: not heard about that, so I have to check to
Speaker 1: see if that's true or not. That's what quote. I
Speaker 1: would honestly doubt that that's true. But all look, we
Speaker 1: have a lot of stuff that we stockpiled over the
Speaker 1: last year and a half through the Department of Emergency Management.
Speaker 1: I have not had any requests across my desk. I
Speaker 1: haven't been notified of that. Well, that might be true
Speaker 1: because they know you are caping for fucking COVID, so
Speaker 1: you would probably say, we don't need it. Can't we
Speaker 1: just get people to come up to leaf blowers or
Speaker 1: some ship? Why does that sound like Tim Robinson in
Speaker 1: the Hotdog Costumes sort of being like, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know who knows. It really feels like that exact
Speaker 1: speech feels exactly like, really, what are we always Why
Speaker 1: are we always on our ventilators? Why can't we live life? Yeah,
Speaker 1: as he's like putting federal dollars into a suitcase in
Speaker 1: front of everyone. Can't we all just you know, worry
Speaker 1: about what's important. We're really looking for the disease that
Speaker 1: did this, And he's like in a giant COVID particle
Speaker 1: cost him and then he takes off on like a
Speaker 1: bike with like a sidecar with COVID. I assume it
Speaker 1: would just be any cruise ship, right, But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and so you have these situations now where like doctors
Speaker 1: in these states, most even like some even Republican officially, like,
Speaker 1: what the funk are they doing the same? What the
Speaker 1: funk is this to the point where now you have
Speaker 1: counties that are going rogue despite what the governors are
Speaker 1: saying or saying like you can't remend a mass. You
Speaker 1: bet don't know many people wear masks. They're like, funk that, dude,
Speaker 1: We're looking at what is actually happening, and we can't
Speaker 1: do that, especially as it relates to schools. So the
Speaker 1: school boards in like Austin, Dallas, Fort Worth, Houston, San Antonio,
Speaker 1: they're all about to vote on requiring masks despite Governor Abbott,
Speaker 1: they're saying, like, you can't make people, we can't end
Speaker 1: a mass. Okay, you're gonna be in trouble if you
Speaker 1: do that, because a judge has granted a temporary restraining order,
Speaker 1: so allowing counties in two counties now to make their
Speaker 1: own decisions. But the same is also happening in Broward
Speaker 1: County in Florida. They don't care what the fucking governor
Speaker 1: is saying because they know what the real outcomes are
Speaker 1: and they're like, what the funk, Like, we don't give
Speaker 1: a funk this. So this is absurd, And you see
Speaker 1: videos of people standing outside of these school board meetings
Speaker 1: like yelling at nurses who are testifying about COVID being bad,
Speaker 1: and I cannot and I get in rage. My sister
Speaker 1: is a second grade teacher in Missouri, which is probably
Speaker 1: the bronze medal on your podium of this conversation. If
Speaker 1: Texas and Florida are are are bringing home the rest
Speaker 1: of the metals, and you, if you are screaming at
Speaker 1: a nurse for talking to a school board, what happened?
Speaker 1: How did you get here? I mean, I know none
Speaker 1: of those people are listening, because I don't think they
Speaker 1: can get this on their iPod shuffle, but I just
Speaker 1: want to know how they are listening, Like how I
Speaker 1: don't know how you can get to such a point
Speaker 1: where you're screaming at a nurse because they have the
Speaker 1: right has very and I'm not definitely crafted a narrative,
Speaker 1: but they've tied economic chaos to the shutdown, So any
Speaker 1: threat of acknowledging that how bad the diseases and that
Speaker 1: action needs to be taken begins to resonate in these
Speaker 1: people out of frequency, which is like oh, my my
Speaker 1: job or my livelihood or these other things rather than like,
Speaker 1: this is what we have to do to be safe.
Speaker 1: There's some people go, this is what we have to
Speaker 1: do to be safe. Other people go, this is what
Speaker 1: they're trying to do to fucking get us out of
Speaker 1: our houses or whatever. Because everyone, no matter what side
Speaker 1: of the political spectrum, Iran is feeling the crunch of
Speaker 1: of American capitalism on some level, like where they don't
Speaker 1: feel that there's any moment to rest or that they
Speaker 1: can feel that something is going to be provided for them.
Speaker 1: So they've really tied this idea into the acknowledging how
Speaker 1: bad the disease is as being like it's going to
Speaker 1: create more economic cards. You remember the shutdown, remember all
Speaker 1: those business and it's it's about this like completely other
Speaker 1: thing because clearly the the science aspect is just completely
Speaker 1: decoupled from it to just be more about this like
Speaker 1: larger existential like hegemonic you know, like thing that they're
Speaker 1: all blombing onto. I think we're so far down the
Speaker 1: rabbit hole of like social media just creating you know,
Speaker 1: the the reality where you were talking about earlier, Kyle,
Speaker 1: of just like there is no objective truth that I
Speaker 1: just think that like that that is such a such
Speaker 1: a huge part of this and so surreal if you
Speaker 1: just go back ten years and look at our present reality,
Speaker 1: Like just the de Santist response, I have not heard
Speaker 1: about that, so I have to check to see if
Speaker 1: that's true or not. Like the I'm gonna do my
Speaker 1: own research in the face of somebody like showing him
Speaker 1: that you don't have to. Health and Human Services confirmed
Speaker 1: that they sent hundreds of pieces of machinery to the
Speaker 1: state just some other research then the last food cases
Speaker 1: or whatever the number there or something. I would honestly
Speaker 1: doubt that's true, but I'll look like it's just do
Speaker 1: do your own research type ship. It's all, you know.
Speaker 1: I keep going back to the how much the Trump
Speaker 1: band changed things, and just like social media is so
Speaker 1: deadly to like it's really you know, Biden got a
Speaker 1: lot of ship for saying that it's killing people, but
Speaker 1: it's legitimately at this point killing people. I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: killing children soon. I don't even think it is a
Speaker 1: that's like a known I mean, this is even separat
Speaker 1: of everything if you're talking about the vaccine or COVID
Speaker 1: at all. Social media is also like what do you
Speaker 1: call like simmering and then overboard like boiling like the
Speaker 1: insurrection and you know, coups and like terrorist activity and
Speaker 1: countries just all to to create ad revenue and own
Speaker 1: people's data. And that's you know, that's even separate like
Speaker 1: anything that's happening with misinformation and COVID and things like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and again, like for places like Facebook and YouTube, they're like, man,
Speaker 1: I know this COVID video is getting ninety million interactions
Speaker 1: like in three days that you know, people are like,
Speaker 1: what is this thing still doing up there? But they're like, man,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of impressions. They're really getting a lot
Speaker 1: of people watch eight seconds about stream Yard because we're
Speaker 1: because we're in a fucking culture of infinite growth business.
Speaker 1: There's no end to it. They can't turn it off
Speaker 1: because it's absolutely antithetical to like their mission as a
Speaker 1: you know, like a capitalist enterprise. It's not to be like,
Speaker 1: our mission is to get to a point and then
Speaker 1: whatever extras there are will kind of reinvest that down
Speaker 1: the ladder. It's just like no, no no, no, we just
Speaker 1: want to go to the balloon. Fucking pops go ahead.
Speaker 1: We've seen Facebook ignore massive panics that resulted in riots
Speaker 1: that killed people in other countries, until right up until
Speaker 1: it becomes a news story, a media story, and then
Speaker 1: they will do as much damage control as they can
Speaker 1: without actually fixing the problem, until just to make the
Speaker 1: story go away. But like that's literally the only thing
Speaker 1: that they responded to is negative press. But it's hard
Speaker 1: to press take videos down while you're kite surfing, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's kind of like on a
Speaker 1: fucking hydrofoil. Bro I'm happy my boy's face didn't get burned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone made front of him for that, But I kind
Speaker 1: of look similar and I got scars. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: not get permanently sun burned on my head, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Unfortunately you don't have access to the skin that Mark
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg can just buy. Right. That wasn't even sunscreen, that
Speaker 1: was just someone else put there. Yeah. Yeah, that's someone's
Speaker 1: complete epidermist that just wore it as a mask, like
Speaker 1: some fucked up water sports loving hannibal lector. He just
Speaker 1: watched twenty minutes of Silence of the Lambs, agreed with
Speaker 1: the guy, turned it off and was like like that,
Speaker 1: give me that movie with all good guy staring at
Speaker 1: my face over there, over there eating all those beans
Speaker 1: out of it. Can I love this guy? He makes
Speaker 1: eye contact and yet feels nothing. That's my hero right there. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: I mean we were talking about kids. The fact that
Speaker 1: this is the Delta variant is shown to be more
Speaker 1: deadly and more infectious with children than any version before.
Speaker 1: FDA administrators are starting to sound the arm and it's
Speaker 1: I think I think there visor is playing to submit
Speaker 1: data for kids under twelve to the f d A
Speaker 1: in September, at which point will need to go through
Speaker 1: the approval process. So like that's as soon as we're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get kids to even have the
Speaker 1: option to get vaccinated. So it's just this, this is
Speaker 1: the point at which you know, this whole thing. I
Speaker 1: just feel like we've been watching somebody have uh an
Speaker 1: embarrassing temper tantrum for the past five years, just over
Speaker 1: and over and just waiting for them to shut the
Speaker 1: funk up, And now they're starting to like put kids
Speaker 1: at risk. And I don't know, it's I don't know
Speaker 1: the answer, but we'll have to see the math on uh,
Speaker 1: whether it was like the kids versus the dow Jones,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? What's more important. If it's
Speaker 1: like two kids per point, you gotta then be like,
Speaker 1: you know, what were the kids scores? And do we
Speaker 1: care about that? And you figure out if we fit's
Speaker 1: okay if they live and profit the Nasdaq, which affects
Speaker 1: me and I know you guys on a daily basis.
Speaker 1: We can't like let that go. If that goes down,
Speaker 1: that's bad. If I sound down on the dumps, it
Speaker 1: is because of the my nasdack portfolio. Yeah, putting the
Speaker 1: down and down on the dumps. You know, my endorsement
Speaker 1: levels are tied to the stock market. Right, I got
Speaker 1: a Robin Hood referral that I'm really hoping pays off.
Speaker 1: So if these kids die, I mean, who who really
Speaker 1: is that on? Yeah, it's everything that you see like
Speaker 1: it's it's but from especially Republican governors, you don't know
Speaker 1: like if they understand the concept of the value of
Speaker 1: human life or like what it would mean for a
Speaker 1: parent to like lose their child to this, because there's
Speaker 1: not that. It's almost that thought process is completely absent
Speaker 1: from this decision making. Like Asa Hutchinson of Arkansas, it
Speaker 1: seems to be the one like one one Republican government
Speaker 1: who's like, I pretty much I sucked up, Like not
Speaker 1: in those harsh words, but he's definitely like voicing regret
Speaker 1: over certain things that has happened. Not to say that
Speaker 1: that excuses anything, but on some level it feels like
Speaker 1: for him, he's like, yeah, it's kind of hard to
Speaker 1: like keep keep this up, like it's it's getting bad, folks.
Speaker 1: And yeah, when you see that this, you know, mindset
Speaker 1: is now seeping into the realm of parents trying to
Speaker 1: protect their children. I mean, I feel like that's probably
Speaker 1: where we're gonna see more people start coming to the
Speaker 1: side of like, we need more mandates, we need more vaccines,
Speaker 1: because it's one thing when you feel like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: an adult, and there was like this fallacy of like
Speaker 1: and kids are immune, so we're good, like that's not
Speaker 1: a danger. But now when you're seeing that cases for
Speaker 1: kids are going up and up and up, and you
Speaker 1: have doctors like in Florida like crying in these p
Speaker 1: s a s like because they're trying to tell people
Speaker 1: like it's getting bad and we're seeing more kids yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean there's lawsuits right now where parents of
Speaker 1: disabled students are like suing the governor to to be like,
Speaker 1: my kids need to be protected. Like, don't the funk
Speaker 1: you think this is because it's not a game for
Speaker 1: me as a parent, right, But I even find like
Speaker 1: people who are like we when you're talking about how
Speaker 1: this this a lot of this is fought out of
Speaker 1: like hyper capitalism not being a viable solution, and the
Speaker 1: people who let's like these people who hate masks and
Speaker 1: these people who want to ignore everything, even they are
Speaker 1: screaming about it because they're like, well, I I have
Speaker 1: to drop my kid off at school because I have
Speaker 1: to go do this work, and I want to take
Speaker 1: these people big. So you are so close. You are
Speaker 1: like I need school to have no changes because otherwise
Speaker 1: I can't do my job in life. I require it.
Speaker 1: You're so close to being like so, yeah, we need
Speaker 1: to just get rid of this. This system is what
Speaker 1: is holding all a lot of this back as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're the fact that you without school, you will lose
Speaker 1: your job because you can't go in because you have
Speaker 1: to take care of your And these are people who
Speaker 1: are like, so that's why we shouldn't wear masks. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, but you're just so you're so close. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you again you are right at the door. The
Speaker 1: most propagandized people on the planet, you know, living live
Speaker 1: in this country. So it's just yeah, they're so close,
Speaker 1: but they're in like it seems like an an impenetrable
Speaker 1: bubble that they've swapped out there capitalism frustrations with COVID frustrations,
Speaker 1: and are just know that's the problem. It's not that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's nothing shout out to Freud. There's nothing like that too,
Speaker 1: you know, there's nothing that's connecting the dots because it's
Speaker 1: just been so effectively hijacked like this, you know, and
Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough to like even what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to talk, I don't feel like I'm fully getting across
Speaker 1: what I think even now I think about it. Let alone,
Speaker 1: if I'm trying to talk to someone I know who
Speaker 1: I think maybe I could get through too. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel frustrated about it, and I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people do. Where you're just like you just wanna
Speaker 1: be no like, but that's not You're like, if give
Speaker 1: me six hours and let me find smarter people, and
Speaker 1: I just I can't even I get frustrated myself, Like
Speaker 1: I can't explain well now with ideas and how I
Speaker 1: feel about it and how and all this sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: And the one time I got into it with like
Speaker 1: a guy was just like, I don't know, man, There's
Speaker 1: been a lot of I've heard from a lot of
Speaker 1: people who said, like, I just couldn't be like, I know,
Speaker 1: I know it's not a effective way to win an argument,
Speaker 1: but I just like got so piste off. It's just
Speaker 1: like it was just over like I immediately. But it's
Speaker 1: the most important thing. We don't and I know it
Speaker 1: wasn't in the dock, but if one NFL player kneels
Speaker 1: during the anthem this year, I am going I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be pissedy real quick. Do you think Joe Biden said
Speaker 1: when when he saw that his infrastructure built got sixty
Speaker 1: nine bos Do you think he said, nice, that's something
Speaker 1: I need to know. I don't think he would never
Speaker 1: sixty nine. He doesn't know what that is. Okay, he'd
Speaker 1: be like, what explaining that to Joe? But come on, Jack,
Speaker 1: people don't do that gross stuff. Put your mouth down there, Okay,
Speaker 1: what do you a veterinarian? It's yeah, I know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Yeah, I mean, he he definitely he he
Speaker 1: pulled off his bipartisan fucking magic show, and like the
Speaker 1: Washington Posts, like Joe Biden stunts again, he surprises us
Speaker 1: again with his Bipartisan Infrastructure Framework. Yeah. I got sixty
Speaker 1: nine votes. It got over that uh filibuster proof. You know,
Speaker 1: I gotta get over that sixty sixty vote mark. And
Speaker 1: at one trillion dollars, the largest bill of its kind.
Speaker 1: Nineteen Republicans got on board. But don't worry, it's not
Speaker 1: for good reasons. I think many saw this as an
Speaker 1: opportunity to support, like to put throw their support behind
Speaker 1: something that just broadly pulls well. It's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you want less sucked up roads, you want a bridge,
Speaker 1: you want a better airport. Okay, good. I mean that's
Speaker 1: still people who think that's the what the government's whole
Speaker 1: purpose is a pothole, you know what I mean. They're like,
Speaker 1: look at the pothole outside my building. Yeah, exactly. And
Speaker 1: so that was definitely like a plus for them, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can vote for this because it's also popular. And
Speaker 1: also the nineteen that supported it, they were kind of
Speaker 1: like in this place where they felt a little bit
Speaker 1: more insulated from like the maga outrage mobs of constituents
Speaker 1: that would normally be like the four steps, Like, actually,
Speaker 1: I can't because Trump is yelling at us to not
Speaker 1: support this because he doesn't want buying into have an
Speaker 1: optics win. But I think the real reason behind it
Speaker 1: is that they wanted to pretend bipartisan ship works to
Speaker 1: sort of take the fucking momentum out of the filibuster
Speaker 1: reform talk that's happening right now, because if they do
Speaker 1: that and go, you see, like we figured it out,
Speaker 1: we did a one trillion dollar we voted for that.
Speaker 1: But then we have this three point five trillion dollar
Speaker 1: reconciliation bill that has the real ship in it, like
Speaker 1: the real, real big programs that people are like saying like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a kind of investment we eating people that
Speaker 1: they can come around for that time like oh this
Speaker 1: is too much? Is too much? You saw we were
Speaker 1: able to do that, but this stuff, there's a line
Speaker 1: with it, And don't say it's not bipartisanship because we
Speaker 1: were there for that vote. M h. And they're sort
Speaker 1: of loading the whole deck for that kind of showdown
Speaker 1: because right now, yeah, I got this one trillion dollar
Speaker 1: thing goes to the house. Pelosi says, we're not going
Speaker 1: to vote on it until you also passed the three
Speaker 1: point five trillion bill and see what happens then. And
Speaker 1: but already we have like Joe Manson on his fainting
Speaker 1: couch being like, it's so, I don't know, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of money, so there's a lot of work to
Speaker 1: be done. It's and it's just again frustrating because they
Speaker 1: maybe they'll figure it out. But yeah, look at what
Speaker 1: happens when democrats like actually take the filibuster like seriously
Speaker 1: that that scares them. And I just feel like this
Speaker 1: is democrats behaving like Republicans and in the good way
Speaker 1: that it's like shrewd and just forcing people hand a
Speaker 1: little bit. I wish I wish they were like that
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, I I think about I don't know,
Speaker 1: I get free. I think about the filibuster. I think
Speaker 1: about how the whole I wish we could just take
Speaker 1: a look at it, like would we invent this today
Speaker 1: or is it just already here? Or we just want
Speaker 1: these guys with wooden teeth, ghosts with wooden teeth to
Speaker 1: tell us what we want from centuries ago. If we
Speaker 1: came up with healthcare today and you walked into the
Speaker 1: room and you said, Okay, first off, what's your job?
Speaker 1: I know you want to go to the doctor. I
Speaker 1: just have to know what you do for your job.
Speaker 1: How long have you been there, how often do you work? Also,
Speaker 1: your job is now at least part time dealing with
Speaker 1: a health insurance company, right, and and how little your
Speaker 1: job spends on you makes other people money. Um? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you guys are writing this all down. This healthcare
Speaker 1: is gonna work. So you have to tell you your
Speaker 1: doctor where you work, so a company can talk to
Speaker 1: a company. That way, if you've paid every month, you
Speaker 1: can pay a little bit more and then if you
Speaker 1: pay enough, you won't have to pay as much. If
Speaker 1: your taxes are the same, well, it's a good question though.
Speaker 1: In the back, good question your taxes. We have thirty
Speaker 1: helicopters that need to circle at water village, so, um,
Speaker 1: we got to keep those up. Or would someone just
Speaker 1: say maybe taxes make people feel better? Mm hmm yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think the same with the filibuster, if you like,
Speaker 1: if you're writing it all out now, what if one
Speaker 1: guy is loud? I don't know, it's an episode of
Speaker 1: Smart Guy. This isn't what this is right. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk
Speaker 1: about important stuff. And we're back. And there were twenty
Speaker 1: four hours. They're a beautiful twenty four hours where people
Speaker 1: thought Ross and Rachel were boning in real life. So good,
Speaker 1: gious time it was. It was a great day people.
Speaker 1: I don't know. People. I feel like right now, we're
Speaker 1: so fucking hopped up on nostalgia, you know, benefit they're
Speaker 1: back together and like house hunting and a Rod is
Speaker 1: just pathetically trying to get her attention with his Instagram
Speaker 1: stories that I think it makes sense that a lot
Speaker 1: of people are just immediately just jumped on any room
Speaker 1: and that Jennifer Andiston and David Swimmer might be dating.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if did any of y'all see
Speaker 1: the Friends reunion at all? Okay, well I saw that.
Speaker 1: I saw most of it, and there was this one
Speaker 1: part I think that fueled a lot of this speculation,
Speaker 1: is that because there's a certain point where Jennifer Andiston
Speaker 1: and David Swimmer both were like, hey, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie like we definitely I had a crush on He's
Speaker 1: like I had a crush on we We were into
Speaker 1: each other, but our dating lives never quite aligned, like
Speaker 1: we were never single at the same time, so it
Speaker 1: just kind of never really worked out, although we definitely
Speaker 1: had feelings for each other, so instead we just focused
Speaker 1: all that horny into the performances on this show, which
Speaker 1: is why I think y'all felt it. It was hitting
Speaker 1: a little bit differently because underneath that we were really vibing.
Speaker 1: And then they were spotted together in Santa Barbara, and
Speaker 1: then all it took was one like fake fucking quote
Speaker 1: someone quoted. Someone was like, yeah, she has been cooking
Speaker 1: dinners for him and he traveled all the way from
Speaker 1: New York to visit her. That then immediately, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, together, thank God. Like you
Speaker 1: can't deal with global warming, but Tony Ross and Rachel
Speaker 1: will be happy. I'm okay. If he took a private plane,
Speaker 1: if it was to Santa Barbara to see her. I
Speaker 1: sometimes this was a story. I missed the time where
Speaker 1: we all thought they were together. It felt like I
Speaker 1: was binge watching Breaking Bad and couldn't talk about it
Speaker 1: week to week. I got I was late. I knew,
Speaker 1: I knew the end, and I wish I was in
Speaker 1: the little happy world where everyone was like, had the hypothetical,
Speaker 1: even if it was just for a day, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's then like all it took was just one
Speaker 1: of his like sort of pr poll be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's absolutely not true. It's not true they're
Speaker 1: just friends. But that would be the perfect cover though,
Speaker 1: especially if they said they are just friends with a
Speaker 1: little trademark symbol after the word friends and they're just
Speaker 1: actually talking about friends. I have this poster that's I
Speaker 1: want to believe, but it's just a picture of them
Speaker 1: having graphics sex, but instead of a UFO like in
Speaker 1: the next one. Another thing I want to believe in
Speaker 1: is Shazam, that Genie movie that we I don't know,
Speaker 1: did y'all have this memory that Simbad was alive? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was, no. No, this should have been foreshadowing that
Speaker 1: we couldn't agree on the vaccine. I don't think. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I believe it happened. I think it's just
Speaker 1: interesting that all of our collective unconscious created the same
Speaker 1: image of him with his arms fold and Genie out
Speaker 1: that that never never happened. Yeah, I mean it's I
Speaker 1: Am Kazam and shack Baby, So is it because because
Speaker 1: Simbad war like Genie esque pants a lot, So I
Speaker 1: think that's part of it, you know, as somebody who
Speaker 1: he would do a lot of vests and sort of
Speaker 1: like patterned vests and pants and pattern vests, big billowy,
Speaker 1: you know Genie pants. I mean, hammer were what we're
Speaker 1: called genie pants at the time. And I don't know.
Speaker 1: So his his son, so his kids are kind of
Speaker 1: the front line of this. They're saying that people the
Speaker 1: closest to us, who know everything about our family have
Speaker 1: sometimes second guests whether the movie exists, and they have
Speaker 1: to be like, no, motherfucker. Again, the people are saying
Speaker 1: that the movie Kazam starting Shaquille O'Neal and where he's
Speaker 1: a Genie, it was actually there was a movie called
Speaker 1: Shazam with sind And they're saying, stop lying to us,
Speaker 1: You fucking what if we all found out the movie
Speaker 1: Deep Impact never happened and it was just Armageddon and
Speaker 1: some people were misremembering details and like faking this entire second,
Speaker 1: right right, No, And so she also said, my dad
Speaker 1: and Scheck, people confuse them all the time. People do
Speaker 1: not look the same, They do not look the same,
Speaker 1: and do they not look the same. One of them
Speaker 1: is the most distinct looking human who exists, the most
Speaker 1: famous looking person, and their delivery on cadence couldn't be
Speaker 1: more different, you know what I mean, there's nothing even
Speaker 1: like sonically, you're like, they're not even remotely the same age, like,
Speaker 1: none of it's the same. Our debt, So this is
Speaker 1: a quote from his daughter. Our dad has been making
Speaker 1: mistaken for Shaquille O'Neil more times than makes logical sense. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's so fucking true. So well put that would be
Speaker 1: once or twice is more times than make a logical sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But I people just are they really doing this thing
Speaker 1: where they just think black people look the thing, because
Speaker 1: there's no way you're looking at the two of that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, the faw the funk? Are you mistaken these two?
Speaker 1: And unless you're truly awesome other we're ignorant And you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think that's are you Shaquille O'Neil.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm fucking Sinbad. I think it's that he
Speaker 1: Sinbad should have been in that role. It doesn't really
Speaker 1: make sense that Shaquille O'Neal would play a Genie and
Speaker 1: like the Shaquille O'Neil is just very like charming in person,
Speaker 1: and I think he gets put into things that don't
Speaker 1: always make sense for him. Like there, I think I've
Speaker 1: told the story about that show where people were like
Speaker 1: trying to beat Shack at like various athletic feats that
Speaker 1: was actually supposed to be Steve Nash, because Steve Nash
Speaker 1: can like beat people in like he can just do
Speaker 1: insane stuff, like he can make thirty three pointers in
Speaker 1: a row with a softball, Like he's just like one
Speaker 1: of those freak athletes that there's two people that look
Speaker 1: the same now, thank you, um. But because like when
Speaker 1: the ABC producers were hanging out with Steve Nash, he
Speaker 1: was on the Phoenix Suns with Shack, and Shack just
Speaker 1: like kind of would them over to his side and
Speaker 1: made the show about him. So I'm wondering, like if
Speaker 1: we just recast Kazam as Sinbad because it just like
Speaker 1: makes more sense, like we just thought he should have
Speaker 1: been in that role. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of twisting and turning we have to
Speaker 1: do to make it all makes sense when it's just
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. It's a it's a completely irrational thing.
Speaker 1: I just think it's an interesting sinda also so funny.
Speaker 1: I don't this has nothing to do with it. That
Speaker 1: man is so funny. Still if you can go, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't need this is where you want to risk
Speaker 1: your COVID exposures to go see Sinbad. But some day
Speaker 1: if you like stand up, and you might think I'm
Speaker 1: joking because he's not the generation you like. He's so funny. Oh,
Speaker 1: I remember, like back on airplanes when there was no
Speaker 1: back in my day. I remember the old air headphones
Speaker 1: that were just like air tubes that you would like
Speaker 1: plug into this little stethoscope and the only entertainment on
Speaker 1: a fucking plane was like the ten radio stations like
Speaker 1: that would just play music. And I remember as a kid,
Speaker 1: I would always listen to whatever the stand up comedy
Speaker 1: one was, Like that was like my favorite thing. I
Speaker 1: remember hearing Simbad for the first time, like on an
Speaker 1: album and I could I was fucking killing me, and
Speaker 1: like that was. And so I've always had really good
Speaker 1: memories of his stand up to the point where, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just always kept watching it because he's always been
Speaker 1: kind of this like wholesome comedian dude. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: second that suggestion. Even young Miles, who was listening with
Speaker 1: his weird rubber tube headphones, became a fan very right.
Speaker 1: One of the first stand up shows ever went to
Speaker 1: was like to go see him at a some when
Speaker 1: I was like eighteen or nineteen, and he only did
Speaker 1: stand up about the cab ride from the airport to
Speaker 1: the casino in Kansas City for an hour and talk
Speaker 1: to people in the crowd and just crushed so hard
Speaker 1: that you're like, this is It's like a different sport.
Speaker 1: It's it's an absolutely different thing happening. Anyways, I don't
Speaker 1: think he was naturally the funniest person. I think there
Speaker 1: will be like a thesis, there'll be this will be
Speaker 1: a was isn't The Berenstein Bears another example of this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Mandela effect. This is the one that is very
Speaker 1: that actually got me that. I definitely have the image
Speaker 1: in my head of him on the in a movie
Speaker 1: poster folding his arms like a Genie and a Genie
Speaker 1: outfit for some reason. But yeah, it's so this is
Speaker 1: where it turns from. I feel like this is a
Speaker 1: good metaphor for the current state of America because then
Speaker 1: they say it's very end of the article. Even when
Speaker 1: faced with facts, people don't want to be told they're wrong.
Speaker 1: When they debunk the Shazam theory, people get upset claiming
Speaker 1: the movie was quote so influential on their childhood, says Atkins. Strangely,
Speaker 1: Adkins said that in order to prove their point, some
Speaker 1: of these same people will later claim the influential movie
Speaker 1: was so bad Simbad wanted to get rid of it. Sense,
Speaker 1: like the fucking E t any S Game or something
Speaker 1: like that. There's someone's going to discover a stockpile of
Speaker 1: old Simbad Shazam tapes, like in a dump in Arizona
Speaker 1: or something. That's the thing about stuff is you can't
Speaker 1: get rid of it anymore, right, They're can't hide. So they,
Speaker 1: rather than admitting they're wrong about this completely inconsequential thing,
Speaker 1: they will accuse people of being part of a vast conspiracy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can see where that would apply to other stuff.
Speaker 1: I just can't help with any examples. Kyle, It's been
Speaker 1: a pleasure of having you man as always. Where can
Speaker 1: people find you and follow you? I'm at Kyle airs
Speaker 1: on the most of the stuff, so you can find
Speaker 1: me on there. Uh, and that's when I'll post if
Speaker 1: you know, stand up shows and things like that are happening,
Speaker 1: but you know at Kyle Aers on Instagram. Nice And
Speaker 1: is there a tweet or some of the work of
Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying. I saw this tweet someone said,
Speaker 1: if you've seen one bear attack, you've seen a mall
Speaker 1: y I left it was it's fro underscore vo vo.
Speaker 1: It made me laugh a lot. If you've seen it,
Speaker 1: very good. If you've seen one bear attack, you've seen
Speaker 1: a mall. I like that they apologize for it immediately
Speaker 1: to which also bet me happy. Miles Where can people
Speaker 1: find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh? You
Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also, um,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna check out. The other podcast for twenty
Speaker 1: Day Fiance was Sophia Alexandro. We talked ninety day over.
Speaker 1: There some tweets that I like, damn fucking like so
Speaker 1: many right now. First one is from soul Nate at
Speaker 1: m M Nate Shamalan saying, I can't believe the only
Speaker 1: political options in America are we have to catch and
Speaker 1: spread a deadly virus to defeat the satanic pedophile elite,
Speaker 1: or we spent nine months trying to make the bus
Speaker 1: five dollars cheaper and we did not succeed. Comes up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sadly that is the thing. And then at the way
Speaker 1: of the it tweeted today's generation will never know the
Speaker 1: sweet embarrassment of your mother picking up the phone and
Speaker 1: interrupting your conversation to tell you it's time for bed
Speaker 1: m hm, which I remember, like, oh, Mike, it was
Speaker 1: crushing my mom phone speak Japanese and people what the
Speaker 1: fund was that? Dude, I don't not do My house
Speaker 1: is haunted. I gotta go. I didn't hear anything. You
Speaker 1: heard something? Yeah. Uh. The other annoying thing would be
Speaker 1: when somebody picks up the phone and just like starts
Speaker 1: dialing and like you're just like, I'm not listening. She's
Speaker 1: like I have to send a facts and you're like, fuck,
Speaker 1: that's that used to be the when there was facts machines.
Speaker 1: I would I try to use that as my phone line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then my moms like I have facts that are
Speaker 1: coming in. I'm like, fuck, you can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien a tweet I've been enjoying
Speaker 1: at Sam Grittner tweeted, I've officially been diagnosed with Havana syndrome.
Speaker 1: I can't stop havana a good time and I like
Speaker 1: anything Havanna syndrome. But except you're like, shouldn't joke about that?
Speaker 1: You really shouldn't joke about that. Really shouldn't joke about that?
Speaker 1: That was from uh leash Shut tweeted that at at
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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: well as the song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 1: what song are we sending people to check out? Okay,
Speaker 1: the song that we're going to go out on UM. Recently,
Speaker 1: uh DT from cool In the Gang, the saxophonists from
Speaker 1: Cooling the Gang Dennis Thomas, he passed away, so I
Speaker 1: wanted to do this one track from Cooling the Gang
Speaker 1: from the album Wild and Peaceful. It's the tinsular track.
Speaker 1: It's called Wild and Peaceful. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people obviously know them from like their big hits. But
Speaker 1: Wild and Peaceful it is just like a really nice
Speaker 1: big song. It's like a very ambitious track with all
Speaker 1: kinds of textures and rhythms and and good musicality, and
Speaker 1: it's easy listening in the background that will keep your attention.
Speaker 1: So check out Wild and Peaceful from Cool in the Gang.
Speaker 1: Very cool. Alright, that's very cool, very cool. Alright. Alright,
Speaker 1: well we're gonna suggest you go check that out The
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