Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, Episode one
Speaker 1: after Daily's like guys to production of Heart Radio. Wow Uh.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. And it is Monday, July. My
Speaker 1: name is Jack O'Brien a k. Jack Butt is white,
Speaker 1: and I cannot lie. Ah, you volleyballers can't deny that
Speaker 1: when Jack digs for the ball with his little sweaty
Speaker 1: hands and that white things in your face, you go blind.
Speaker 1: That is courtesy of official Dickhead imagining the world, as
Speaker 1: we did on recent episode where I am forced to
Speaker 1: adhere to the beach Volleyball shorts guidelines and how bad
Speaker 1: that would be for everyone, just everyone. That's an intense
Speaker 1: fan fix. That's nice. Yeah, yeah, I kind of enjoyed it. Well, Hey,
Speaker 1: who's that? Who's that voice? I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: by today's special guest co host, a hilarious comedian, Emmy
Speaker 1: nominative writer, all around brilliant artist who co hosts The
Speaker 1: Bechdel Cast and created the podcast My Year in Mensa
Speaker 1: Lolita Podcast and at Cast, which is in Act four.
Speaker 1: I think Act five might be dropping pretty soon. Just
Speaker 1: digging into the cultural history of the Kathy Comics. She
Speaker 1: is Jamie laft k Live lofed Love, a k eat
Speaker 1: pray Love. How are you, Jamie? I'm good. I'm in
Speaker 1: a basement in Wisconsin. I have never been better. Good
Speaker 1: is that you? You went out there for the Milwaukee
Speaker 1: Bucks championship just to celebrate. Yeah, I was. I went
Speaker 1: out into the middle of Milwaukee and begged someone to
Speaker 1: sneeze into my mouth. I've never seen a more a
Speaker 1: less COVID safe looking environment than so sinister. Yeah. Very
Speaker 1: it was far away from that. Watching the game, the game,
Speaker 1: which also I begin the Big Game, I didn't even
Speaker 1: realize it was the big game. When they won, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, when is the next game? And then
Speaker 1: they brought the trophy out. I was like, oh, that
Speaker 1: was the game. Well that's very exciting and humiliated myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the world is revolving around Wisconsin these days. Jamie Loftus
Speaker 1: is there and the Bucks are the world champs. Well, Jamie.
Speaker 1: We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: by the extremely talented digital activist and podcast host of
Speaker 1: the brilliant podcast There Are No Girls on the Internet,
Speaker 1: which did a special mini series on disinformation in our
Speaker 1: modern disinformation age called disinformed. That want to shorty and
Speaker 1: that is especially timely right now as disinformation is killing us. Literally,
Speaker 1: Please welcome brit I love the airhorn introduction. P. How
Speaker 1: are you? I am doing well. I'm not lucky enough
Speaker 1: to be in a basement in Wisconsin. I am in
Speaker 1: a kitchen in Washington, d C. I am in recovery
Speaker 1: for a broken ankle, which but other than that, I
Speaker 1: am good. I wish it was like a good story.
Speaker 1: I was on a three night canoe trip on the
Speaker 1: Delaware Water Reserve, and that's a good story, a good story. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what's funny is that like I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be kind of a test of my
Speaker 1: outdoor skills. And then first night I was like so
Speaker 1: so overconfident on the river. We'll just say this. It
Speaker 1: was a combination of stormy weather, over confidence, and alcohol.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I that's story is great, being drunk
Speaker 1: in a storm on a like on a canoe trip.
Speaker 1: The last time I was like, my life was like
Speaker 1: suspended by an injury. I think it was from like
Speaker 1: a sneeze like throughout my back. Yeah, that's what sucks
Speaker 1: about getting older, it's like you get injured. It it's like,
Speaker 1: oh I just like got up too fast or I
Speaker 1: just like sat down weird, and now my back is
Speaker 1: a out. I have a hip, like I always thought
Speaker 1: like knees. It was like a bad old person thing,
Speaker 1: but like my hip is starting to hurt. When I after,
Speaker 1: I like go for a run and that that makes
Speaker 1: you feel real, real fucking old man. God, I hurt
Speaker 1: my I hurt my neck comforting my brother on a
Speaker 1: roller coaster. My brother's twenty four years old, but he
Speaker 1: was really scared. What coaster was it? Do you remember? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was in um it was at six Flags, New
Speaker 1: England and it was the Wicked Cyclone. We went on
Speaker 1: the most New England roller core it was, and it
Speaker 1: was awesome. It was so good. But I forgot. My
Speaker 1: brother is like has historically for his entire life been
Speaker 1: terrified of roller coasters and was kind of going on
Speaker 1: to appease me, and yeah, he was upset. Roller coasters
Speaker 1: are so fun, they're so good. I was like, your
Speaker 1: coaster head, I'm starting to be a coaster had I
Speaker 1: was when I was a kid, And then I just
Speaker 1: did a bunch of roller coasters recently and that they
Speaker 1: were really fun. All right, I really missed him and
Speaker 1: didn't realize it. Yeah, same cool. Well, Bridget, we are
Speaker 1: going to get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 1: in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about.
Speaker 1: A legal expert has asked and answered the question, can
Speaker 1: Fox News be sued for killing all these people with
Speaker 1: their anti vax coverage? Turns out they can. So that's exciting.
Speaker 1: So apparently Trump had to file his earnings are explained
Speaker 1: what he did with all the money he raised during
Speaker 1: the Stop the Steel thing in late July, So we're
Speaker 1: gonna find out what he spent that money on. God, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good. It's good. It's good stuff, good stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really fun stuff. We're gonna talk about things that
Speaker 1: we love that will be ruined by wildfires or at
Speaker 1: least affected negatively by them. We'll look at what we
Speaker 1: are have to look forward to with music festival season
Speaker 1: right around the corner and COVID not going anywhere. We
Speaker 1: will check in with the Tokyo Ship Show. We will
Speaker 1: look at streaming numbers, all of that plenty more. But first, Bridget,
Speaker 1: we like to ask our guests, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history. This is a little bit of a
Speaker 1: weird one if you kind of grew up around the
Speaker 1: time that I did. Do you remember the show Barney
Speaker 1: the Kids Show? Yeah, it was my favorite show right up?
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember this? Like very specific kind of
Speaker 1: humor are like anti Barney humor where people will make
Speaker 1: up songs to the in the vein of the Barney
Speaker 1: theme song, but it will be like I love I
Speaker 1: love me. Let's all go and kill Barney. Let's all
Speaker 1: go and kill Barney. I mean that just came off
Speaker 1: the dome right there. But really, okay, yeah, I'm talented.
Speaker 1: That is talent. I was like, wow, fitting absolute fire
Speaker 1: over there. New Verse, just drop, new Verse, just drop.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sell out an arena in Atlanta and people
Speaker 1: can watch me. Just kind of vibe to my Barney tracks,
Speaker 1: my Barney riffs. So what are you? Are you? What's
Speaker 1: going on with Barney? So my last my last thing
Speaker 1: I had Google searched was the Wikipedia page for anti
Speaker 1: Barney humor because I got to thinking I saw this
Speaker 1: thing on TikTok. I was like, I used to we
Speaker 1: used to sing that anti Barney song when I was
Speaker 1: growing up and it turns out that kids all over
Speaker 1: the country were and this you know, in the comments
Speaker 1: people of this TikTok video, people were like, how did
Speaker 1: we all know the same niche? Like anti Barney song.
Speaker 1: Somebody in the comments speaking of like feeling old was
Speaker 1: like obviously YouTube, Well that was like many many, many,
Speaker 1: many many years before YouTube. Yeah, I felt very humbled
Speaker 1: and old. But it really got me thinking, like those
Speaker 1: kind of things where every middle school or no matter
Speaker 1: where you grew up, he knows about them, Like that
Speaker 1: rum where that Marilyn Manson removed his rib to to
Speaker 1: give himself blow jobs, Like how did we all? How
Speaker 1: did we all kind of like latched onto that when
Speaker 1: there wasn't the internet? Like where did that all come from?
Speaker 1: Are interesting because it's always like a mad lib, just
Speaker 1: depending on where you were, because I heard Prince removed
Speaker 1: his rib to suck his own dick. There's also the
Speaker 1: one where various celebrities had to have their stomach pumped
Speaker 1: because it was so full of semen. I've heard those
Speaker 1: and like that one it like started as Rod Stewart
Speaker 1: for some reason, where did you go to school? Who? University? Wait?
Speaker 1: You had you not heard that one? Jamie the stomach
Speaker 1: pump thing, I'd never heard. I'd heard there, I'd heard
Speaker 1: about different celebrities removing their ribs to suck their own dicks.
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard about the semen pump. This is I
Speaker 1: think that one. Maybe like people just got too smart
Speaker 1: to believe that one, because it's just like an ungodly
Speaker 1: amount of semen that that would require. But it was
Speaker 1: like Rod Stewart New Kids on the Block, Britney spears
Speaker 1: Little Kim and like it's just weird. They don't have
Speaker 1: anything in common, but the song one is really good.
Speaker 1: I actually had that thought around Christmas with the jingle
Speaker 1: bells Batman smells Robins. Do you guys know that one? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Of course, yeah yeah. But like how did they spread
Speaker 1: like such? What? Like were people just like calling their
Speaker 1: cousin on the other side of the country being like, yo,
Speaker 1: you're looking for yea to this? How is it that
Speaker 1: like you growing up in you grew up in Wisconsin? Right?
Speaker 1: Who did? I thought you did? Maybe not? I grew
Speaker 1: up like all over but Ohio. I never lived in Wisconsin, Okay,
Speaker 1: I said, Ohio and Wisconsin are the same in my head. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like how are we all like like singing the
Speaker 1: same niche dirty songs like me and Virginia as a
Speaker 1: middle schooler you in Ohio, Like how where are we
Speaker 1: getting this? Like I'm just so curious, Like how this
Speaker 1: particular niche kind of cultural thing spread like wildfire when
Speaker 1: we were kids. My theory is cousins from out of town. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because we are around our cousins around the holidays. So
Speaker 1: maybe that's why that one is like universal. I remember
Speaker 1: my cousin from Baltimore, like who I thought? She was
Speaker 1: like so cool and sophisticated because she was just from
Speaker 1: somewhere that I wasn't from. And she showed me what
Speaker 1: smash Mouth was when I when we went down to
Speaker 1: meet her, and I was like, what is this. This
Speaker 1: is amazing and she's like, yeah, it's more than just Shrek,
Speaker 1: And it was really more than just Shrek. It's like
Speaker 1: she was the peak of sophistication from Baltimore. Like everything
Speaker 1: being from Baltimore is the sophistication. Because my older cousins
Speaker 1: were from Newark, and I remember we didn't have Nintendo
Speaker 1: in our house and my the first time that we
Speaker 1: played Nintendo was visiting my my older cousins in Newark,
Speaker 1: and it was the best thing I'd ever seen. I'd
Speaker 1: never seen anything so cool in my life. Cousin pilgrimages
Speaker 1: are exciting. Yeah. I was just thinking about my cousin's
Speaker 1: bullying me when I was like nine years old, Like
Speaker 1: something they made fun of me about when I was nine,
Speaker 1: just like recurred in my head just this morning. So
Speaker 1: oh wow, isn't that just on a loop? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: get them, where are they and I'll be I'll be
Speaker 1: seeing them very soon. So Tim and Mike A yeah,
Speaker 1: but the power of the pre internet meme is is
Speaker 1: no joke. That's a good one. What is something you
Speaker 1: think is overrated? Something that I think is overrated is
Speaker 1: something that I think a lot of folks can maybe
Speaker 1: identify with, which is just general fashion. I feel like
Speaker 1: with COVID, you know, all of us staying home, I
Speaker 1: know that I have kind of leaned into, leaned away from,
Speaker 1: like any kind of fashion trend that I'm just I
Speaker 1: feel like we're all just dressing like the way that
Speaker 1: we wanted to when we were fourteen, and that's cool. Um.
Speaker 1: The other day, I was out, you know, at a
Speaker 1: bar or something, and I was like, Wow, I'm wearing
Speaker 1: a Duran Duran T shirt over denim overalls that I
Speaker 1: have cut into shorts and like clogs, and I think
Speaker 1: I look great. I think everybody given up on fashion advice.
Speaker 1: We're just doing our thing, and I think it's great.
Speaker 1: Hard agree. I haven't like, I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: visited home and found a bunch of like old like
Speaker 1: oversight is closed from high school. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we're just gonna We're just gonna bring them back,
Speaker 1: and I have no interest in involving. I feel like
Speaker 1: there is like a good fashion regression trend going on
Speaker 1: that I'm very very here for. Yeah. So I've been
Speaker 1: recording from the studio recently because of some technical issues
Speaker 1: at my home studio, and there are people here and
Speaker 1: I've found that I like, for the first time in
Speaker 1: two years, I was like, oh, maybe I shouldn't wear
Speaker 1: shorts every day, Like this is like uh, super producer
Speaker 1: soph he was here. She was like, you look like
Speaker 1: such a dead right now. I have like shorts on
Speaker 1: a fucking Fannie peck. Did you have your phone clipped
Speaker 1: on a holster? There's like reflective sunglasses, polarized please. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just got off book. You've reached, You've reached your
Speaker 1: final form. It's a good thing. This is what I
Speaker 1: was meant to be. Yeah, what is something you think
Speaker 1: is underrated? Bridge? Something I think is underrated is trashy books,
Speaker 1: like trashy novels, trashy thrillers. Since I've been injured, I've
Speaker 1: had a lot of time on my hands, and so
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get back into reading. And I
Speaker 1: sort of had this weird relationship with reading where I
Speaker 1: always felt like I should be reading more, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't really a big reader, and I felt like I
Speaker 1: wanted to be the kind of person that like read
Speaker 1: like very serious nonfiction books. And I mentioned The Beach
Speaker 1: not that long ago on vacation, and the two books
Speaker 1: that I brought with me were The Body Keeps Score,
Speaker 1: which is just like very good but like very heavy
Speaker 1: book about trauma, and I think it was the New
Speaker 1: Gym Crows of the book about like Yeah. And then
Speaker 1: on this vacation, I did not crack either of these books,
Speaker 1: and they took up a lot of space in my bag.
Speaker 1: It's almost like, wait, people don't want to read like
Speaker 1: heavy dense stuff on vacation. You want to read like
Speaker 1: a beach read, something that's you know, just a page turner.
Speaker 1: So recently I've been reading a lot of kind of
Speaker 1: trashy books and they're the best. It's so much fun.
Speaker 1: I will never I will never struggle through another like
Speaker 1: dense nonfiction read because I feel like I have to
Speaker 1: when I could be demolishing, you know, trashy romance novels
Speaker 1: or Tom Clancy thrillers, things that maybe aren't you know, highbrow,
Speaker 1: but they're good, right, They're very good. They're page turners. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I read. What like when I loved reading
Speaker 1: when I was you know, twelve thirteen, I was like
Speaker 1: a Michael Creighton like extra like that sort of thing
Speaker 1: that I was like really into and I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't give a shit if like, yeah, reading doesn't need
Speaker 1: to be good for you like reading reading. I remember reading, yeah,
Speaker 1: the the what is it called the Prey in like
Speaker 1: the bathtub over a period of months about the tiny
Speaker 1: little computers, Yeah, the nan know, the nano butt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was actually post post Creighton for me that I
Speaker 1: didn't read that one. That was like I was more
Speaker 1: the Spear era. Oh you think Jurassic Park is good
Speaker 1: you got. Oh, what's the best Michael Crichton book? Like,
Speaker 1: where should I start? I've ever read The Lost World.
Speaker 1: It's been a long time. The Lost World, Well, Jurassic
Speaker 1: Park is better than the Lost World. And Spear, I
Speaker 1: think is probably the best of his novels. Was like
Speaker 1: a big time climate change denier, wasn't him? Star? I
Speaker 1: just wouldn't. I don't know why I wouldn't expect that
Speaker 1: of him, but I wouldn't. I was very surprised because
Speaker 1: he went to medical school, Like yeah, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: because I thought of him as Mr. Smart guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but nothing, uh, nothing can trump being a rich white
Speaker 1: guy for like twenty years than you fus you up.
Speaker 1: It's true. I remember having an argument with a like
Speaker 1: a friend of a friend about climate change and hit
Speaker 1: me with the well the Michael Crichton school of thought
Speaker 1: is and I was like, oh my there, like all right, wait,
Speaker 1: what have you been reading? Bridget? Okay, So I just
Speaker 1: finished the this is Please don't make fun of me.
Speaker 1: The novel version of the Netflix show you Oh my God.
Speaker 1: The show based on the novel, or so it was
Speaker 1: a novel for It's actually three novels. It's called The
Speaker 1: first one is You, the second one is Hidden Bodies.
Speaker 1: The third one I have not read. I forget what
Speaker 1: it's called, but so like, the show is not very good,
Speaker 1: but I watched it all in two days, right, So,
Speaker 1: like you tell me the novel is the same way.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it's a good book. But
Speaker 1: did I finish it in one day? Yes? I did?
Speaker 1: Did Did I stay up every night reading it? Yes?
Speaker 1: I did? What That phenomenon is always so interesting to me,
Speaker 1: where it's like it can take you months to get
Speaker 1: through something that you know is good, but then something
Speaker 1: that is, like You're like, this is bad for me,
Speaker 1: and I don't even know if I'm fully enjoying it,
Speaker 1: but I need to consume it as quickly as possible.
Speaker 1: And honestly, that's totally changed my relationship with reading, because
Speaker 1: books that I feel like I quote should read, I
Speaker 1: will be reading it. It'll hit me a month to
Speaker 1: get through, and when I'm finally done with it, I'm
Speaker 1: like citing it every day like a goddamn egg time
Speaker 1: because I'm just so happy that I finished a book.
Speaker 1: To make it worthwhile, yeah, I gotta bring it up
Speaker 1: every party, every reference. I gotta bring it up if
Speaker 1: my money is worth Oh yeah, of course. I will
Speaker 1: never throw out a book that I've actually read. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that is a trophy that someone comes over and you
Speaker 1: need to be like, yeah, read it, definitely read. Oh
Speaker 1: ever heard of books? I definitely read. The first book
Speaker 1: I read all the way through was the novelization of
Speaker 1: Jaws Too. Not the novel Jaws is based on the
Speaker 1: novelization of Joe's Too. So I respect a novelization. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's aassic literature and I still have it on my bookshelf.
Speaker 1: Nobody will take that away from me. I don't, but
Speaker 1: I wish I did. All right, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll come back and talk about the news.
Speaker 1: And we're back and Fox News. Let's talk about Fox News.
Speaker 1: We've been speculating for the past Like last week there
Speaker 1: was this turn right where suddenly Sean Hannity fucked with
Speaker 1: a vaccine. Like some of the people on the Fox
Speaker 1: Morning Show. We're talking about how the vaccine works, which
Speaker 1: was new, you know, like their party line had been
Speaker 1: like we're just asking questions here, but who's to say
Speaker 1: if the vaccine works, are not like just real like
Speaker 1: the same the same ship you hear from anti baxers.
Speaker 1: It's just a difference of opinion. What you you guys
Speaker 1: are gonna thought control. Ben Shapiro, Oh, thanks, I was
Speaker 1: trying to do Tucker Carlson sore for Charlie Kirk, whoa okay,
Speaker 1: like open to interpretation. They share a voice. So anyways,
Speaker 1: we were wondering, like, did somebody threaten them with a lawsuit,
Speaker 1: because that's like what made them change their tune when
Speaker 1: it came to the big lie and like but whether
Speaker 1: the voting machines had like stolen votes from Trump and
Speaker 1: then you know that they were open to that story
Speaker 1: until the voting machine company was like, hey, we're suing
Speaker 1: you for two billion dollars and then suddenly they were
Speaker 1: just like reading statements on air. So we were wondering
Speaker 1: if that happened with COVID and with vaccinations. We still
Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that, but we do know
Speaker 1: that they can be sued. A legal expert for Slate
Speaker 1: it was basically explaining that they're open to a lawsuit
Speaker 1: if somebody dies from COVID because they didn't get vaccinated
Speaker 1: after watching Tucker Carlson's show, they can be sued under
Speaker 1: the common law theory of fraud. So basically you just
Speaker 1: have to prove that the defendant made a misstatement of
Speaker 1: fact knowing that it was false, or with reckless disregard
Speaker 1: as to whether it was true or false. Okay, So
Speaker 1: that so it's like contingent on them being too being
Speaker 1: able to prove that Fox News knew it was bullshit
Speaker 1: when they were saying it, yeah, or just didn't do
Speaker 1: the work to find it out, like reckless disregard the
Speaker 1: defendant did no investigation at all, but just put the
Speaker 1: statement out there. Yeah, And I mean we in addition
Speaker 1: to you know, being obvious that they like the information
Speaker 1: is just everywhere and they're supposed to be a journalistic institution.
Speaker 1: We talked last week about how they have a clear
Speaker 1: pass that they are using behind the scenes at Fox
Speaker 1: News that like shows that like you can you can
Speaker 1: only work if you have had the vaccine, so they know,
Speaker 1: like they're operating on a day to day basis and
Speaker 1: in a world where the vaccine works, and then coming
Speaker 1: on the air and uh saying things like just a
Speaker 1: list of a couple of the things we have Tucker
Speaker 1: Carlson saying that COVID is really about social control and
Speaker 1: questioning whether the vaccine works. Since those who are vaccinated
Speaker 1: are still urged to take precautions, maybe it doesn't work
Speaker 1: and they're simply not telling you that. So, yeah, that
Speaker 1: man needs to be put through a shredder, just like
Speaker 1: the industrial shredder. Very midwest of you to go far.
Speaker 1: It's everyone, it's weird and everyone everyone's backyard here there's
Speaker 1: a gigantic shredder. So it's just saying on my mind
Speaker 1: with a leg hanging out of it in case you sin? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how what is the kind of COVID masking vibe where
Speaker 1: you guys are? And California, it seems like people have
Speaker 1: gotten the message. They've also like changed the law in
Speaker 1: southern California or in l A County saying that you
Speaker 1: have to wear a mask? Are you is? Are people
Speaker 1: still wearing masks? And Wisconsin and d C? No, it
Speaker 1: as demonstrated by the Bucks game the other night, no
Speaker 1: one is wearing a mask. You can't like I have
Speaker 1: seen people choosing to wear masks, like at the gas
Speaker 1: station and stuff. And unlike the last time I was here,
Speaker 1: people are no longer making fun of you if you
Speaker 1: are wearing a mask In public, So I view that
Speaker 1: as um as progress. That's pretty cool. Yeah, I get
Speaker 1: relentlessly bullied. Jesus Christ, that's so like who cares if
Speaker 1: if you if you're a stranger is wearing a mask,
Speaker 1: who cares? And also, even way before COVID, people who
Speaker 1: had like, um, you know, like who are you know compromised?
Speaker 1: Were mask My dad were masks to travel way before COVID,
Speaker 1: Like who cares? Like, what is it your business? Somebody
Speaker 1: you got to bully them or have have an opinion
Speaker 1: about it? What do you care if someone that you
Speaker 1: don't know in public is wearing a mask? How does
Speaker 1: it impact your life? It's very bizarre. Yeah, there was
Speaker 1: like a remember a guy giving me just a minute long,
Speaker 1: little little song and dance about like are you going
Speaker 1: to rob my business? Because bandits wear masks? And I
Speaker 1: was like, do you want me to buy a diapepsi
Speaker 1: here or not? They're like, I don't know what your
Speaker 1: end game is. I mean that is when there's a
Speaker 1: One of our listeners said that their favorite wing place
Speaker 1: now prohibits masks because of the risk of robbery, which
Speaker 1: is there. There's just very It seems like things have
Speaker 1: turned to the anti vaccing and anti masking people now
Speaker 1: like going on the offensive, like being like you can't
Speaker 1: you you can't stay at our Airbnb if you are vaccinated,
Speaker 1: and like being aggressively against mask because I think Tucker
Speaker 1: Carlson another thing where he was like, if you see
Speaker 1: somebody wearing a mask around your child, you should call
Speaker 1: the police. Sure. Yeah, it's responsibly advocating for the misuse
Speaker 1: of public services. Totally very responsible. Great. How is DC?
Speaker 1: DC is interesting? I will say DC like we are
Speaker 1: by and large a city of people who just want
Speaker 1: to follow the rules. We're like, fine, whatever it is
Speaker 1: we're supposed to do. Fine. I do think with the masking,
Speaker 1: I think people are confused, right, Like I don't. DC
Speaker 1: is not a place where people are gonna where most people,
Speaker 1: I should say, are gonna be anti mask or for
Speaker 1: the sake of being anti masker. I think that when
Speaker 1: we got that federal guidance that you didn't have to
Speaker 1: wear masks indoors if you were vaccinated, I think that
Speaker 1: that frankly, I mean, I'm no medical professional, but I
Speaker 1: think that that probably confused a lot of people. So mean,
Speaker 1: like when you go to Target and stores. In my
Speaker 1: neighborhood in d C and Columbia Heights, they still have
Speaker 1: the signs like please wear a mask. I don't think
Speaker 1: that people are trying to pooh pooh, you know that
Speaker 1: that guidance. But I just think the federal guidance be
Speaker 1: or the federal messaging being that oh, you don't need
Speaker 1: to wear a masks has just confused everybody. So I
Speaker 1: would say, when I go into the grocery store in
Speaker 1: DC now, it's probably half people wearing masks and have
Speaker 1: people not. I don't think the people who are not
Speaker 1: wearing masks, I don't think they're trying to be like
Speaker 1: anti mask whatever, because that's not really a prevalent thing,
Speaker 1: particularly in my area of DC. I just think people
Speaker 1: are confused, and we've got too much conflicting guidance and
Speaker 1: people don't know what to do. Like we we don't
Speaker 1: really have one unifying message, even though our local guidance
Speaker 1: still is like wear a mask inside. It's just I
Speaker 1: think people are confused. Yeah, no, for sure, I I
Speaker 1: think that's totally fair about it about the masking. But
Speaker 1: the the vaccine stuff seems pretty it seems like now
Speaker 1: everybody is being pretty clear about that, even Alabama Governor
Speaker 1: k i Vy is saying, folks are supposed to have
Speaker 1: common sense, but it's time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks,
Speaker 1: not the regular folks. It's the unvaccinated folks that are
Speaker 1: letting us down. You know, she's somebody who ended the
Speaker 1: state's mask mandate early and it's chosen not to spend
Speaker 1: the state emergency COVID funds on like incentive programs. So like,
Speaker 1: this is definitely another situation where like Republicans are coming
Speaker 1: around on something that like should not have required any
Speaker 1: convincing but oh yeah, and to that point, this is
Speaker 1: the same person who in you know, not too long ago,
Speaker 1: was spreading unfounded fears about things like vaccine passports. Right, Like,
Speaker 1: let's not pretend like k Ivy did not spend a
Speaker 1: good portion of the year politicizing vaccines and you know,
Speaker 1: downplaying the need to get them and really spreading irresponsible hysteria,
Speaker 1: putting her own constituents at risk by spreading unfounded claims
Speaker 1: about vaccines and how they were going to be administered.
Speaker 1: And so, you know, I'm happy to see that she's
Speaker 1: come around to the side of common sense. But instead
Speaker 1: of blaming her unvaccinated constituents. She might want to look
Speaker 1: in the mirror and wonder where folks are getting kind
Speaker 1: of panic and hysteria from and what maybe did she
Speaker 1: do that that actually caused that. And you know, Jack,
Speaker 1: earlier you were talking about Fox News and you use
Speaker 1: the word fraud. I think that more and more we
Speaker 1: need to see people that push nonsense about our public health,
Speaker 1: about our elections as the fraudsters and the scammers that
Speaker 1: they are. Tuckra Carausson, he knows that vaccines are safe.
Speaker 1: If that if the vaccine guidance from you know, Fox
Speaker 1: News as an organization to work for is correct, he
Speaker 1: probably has been vaccinated himself. I saw him doing a
Speaker 1: whole song and dance abo how it was the most
Speaker 1: offensive question to ask he was vaccinated. But the bottom
Speaker 1: line is people like Tucker Carlson are making money by
Speaker 1: pushing dangerous lies. And we have a word for that.
Speaker 1: It's a scammer. It's a fraudster. And so this is
Speaker 1: not a you know, a debate or two sides issue.
Speaker 1: These people are scammers and fraudsters and they're making money
Speaker 1: off of pushing people dangerous, dangerous anti science ideas to
Speaker 1: people that can get people killed, and I really am
Speaker 1: happy to see people using language like fraud and scam
Speaker 1: to call out these obvious scammers and fraudsters. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean this thing with k Ivy is it's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not the world, but it's it's way too late
Speaker 1: for her to try to do, you know, like a
Speaker 1: face turn at this point in the way she's handled
Speaker 1: this where there's an absolutely I mean, it's ridiculous to
Speaker 1: expect a public official to take accountability for anything, but yeah,
Speaker 1: just to act like the reason that people are unvaccinated
Speaker 1: in her state exists entirely in a void that has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with her. It's just nothing ridiculous, Like
Speaker 1: it's yeah, I mean, it's the Republican ideal of everything
Speaker 1: is like personal accountability and like personal like and nothing
Speaker 1: has to do with any sort of group based or
Speaker 1: like public Uh, it's such a double like it's like
Speaker 1: you have to trust Republican leadership implicitly or leadership implicitly
Speaker 1: in general, but if you are misguided by leadership, it's
Speaker 1: your fault whatever happens to Like, yeah, it seems unfair.
Speaker 1: It's probably better that she is doing this than her
Speaker 1: you know, staying on the same path she was on before,
Speaker 1: but obviously not somebody who belongs in a position making
Speaker 1: public policy. One other story, Um, so I guess Lallapaluza
Speaker 1: is still a thing, first of all, like that is
Speaker 1: still a music festival that happens on a regular basis.
Speaker 1: A hundred thousand attendees are expected in Chicago every day
Speaker 1: for Lallapaluza starting this week. I think, oh no, yeah,
Speaker 1: And so people are pointing to this Dutch music festival
Speaker 1: verke nipped. I can't believe. I can't imagine that's how
Speaker 1: it's actually pronounced. But so they basically did a music
Speaker 1: festival in the Netherlands required a vaccination card or proof
Speaker 1: of a negative test result it I think it was
Speaker 1: twenty people, uh total at the festival, and now they're
Speaker 1: reporting over a thousand people who attended the festival have
Speaker 1: now tested positive for COVID. And I mean I read
Speaker 1: something like that the delta variant can like have ten
Speaker 1: thousand times or one thousand times as much virus in
Speaker 1: like the nasal passageway than the previous version. So it
Speaker 1: just seems like it's so much more communicable. And so
Speaker 1: I think the big thing that they're trying to. Like,
Speaker 1: the takeaway from that is that the negative test within
Speaker 1: forty hours is like the loophole that people are using
Speaker 1: to get in and like still spread the disease. Basically
Speaker 1: that like forty hours is not enough, like it it
Speaker 1: should be twenty four hours, or you should just force
Speaker 1: people to have been vaccinated. Yeah, and Lallapaluza as of
Speaker 1: right now hasn't learned anything from that, and their window
Speaker 1: is seventy two hours, so yeah, probably not great. The
Speaker 1: first thing that happens when you google Lallapalooza is people
Speaker 1: also ask how could Lollapalooza one happen, which is a
Speaker 1: valid question. Yeah, you're in the Midwest right now? Are
Speaker 1: you planning on going? I mean, yeah, of course I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go. Must Like I was begging someone to sneeze
Speaker 1: in my mouth at the Bucks game, I will be
Speaker 1: doing the same at Lallapaluza. Can't even imagine, like who
Speaker 1: is playing Lallapaluza, like smashed mouth? Probably right, do you
Speaker 1: remember that? I mean, it's it's I I still feel like,
Speaker 1: I mean, it stresses me out looking at packed sports
Speaker 1: games still as well, Like it's just a stressful thing
Speaker 1: to see. Well, well, it still feels like information is
Speaker 1: like no, there's no you know, through line of information whatsoever.
Speaker 1: It freaks me out in general. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: actually have a question this is we're not even really
Speaker 1: a questions, sort of a philosophical issue I've been wrestling with,
Speaker 1: which is that, like, you know, how in the beginning,
Speaker 1: there was a time during COVID where if you were
Speaker 1: still going out to the bar and if you were
Speaker 1: still going out to like events, you were an asshole.
Speaker 1: And then the messaging was well, as long as you're
Speaker 1: fully vaccinated, you can do whatever you want. And so
Speaker 1: I feel like we all were like whoa, parties are back,
Speaker 1: things are back, So are we? So are we now
Speaker 1: to the point where today if you if you go
Speaker 1: to a concert or go out, you're an asshole the
Speaker 1: same way that it was, like like where are we?
Speaker 1: Because I just feel I feel so personally confused by
Speaker 1: the messaging, and I also feel like we cannot count
Speaker 1: on our our leaders to give us clear guidance, and
Speaker 1: so there's always going to be a contention folks who
Speaker 1: are just gonna do what they want. But if you're
Speaker 1: someone who is trying to make responsible choices. I feel
Speaker 1: like we're largely being left up to our own consciousnes
Speaker 1: and like our own understanding of the guidance and the
Speaker 1: and the science and the cases and all of that,
Speaker 1: which is not a good place to be if you're
Speaker 1: just trying to have a hawk girl summer after your
Speaker 1: ankle heels. You know, yeah that, I mean, that's an
Speaker 1: incredibly good question. I I feel conflicted about it all
Speaker 1: the time because it's like, I, you know, I've I've
Speaker 1: been out and doing stuff and trying to I mean
Speaker 1: not even split the difference, but you know, just be
Speaker 1: out and wearing a mask, and if you know, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to stick to things that have that, I know
Speaker 1: that they're that the people there will be vaccinated or like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, there there are still at sports games
Speaker 1: right now. They're still like vaccinated sections that you can
Speaker 1: sit in, which doesn't I mean, which I feel like
Speaker 1: it's almost a band aid because it's like you're going
Speaker 1: to be sharing bathrooms with there's not vaccinated. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I on actually have no fucking clue. I very the
Speaker 1: it just really it really seems like there is a
Speaker 1: a level of like to answer your question, like I
Speaker 1: I am equally confused, so not to not answer your question,
Speaker 1: I'm equally confused. I don't have an answer for how
Speaker 1: we're supposed to judge people because we don't know if
Speaker 1: they've been vaccinated. I do. I'm just like the fact
Speaker 1: the fact that sporting that would have a vaccinated versus
Speaker 1: not vaccinated section, Like why the fact that like they're
Speaker 1: making do at these music festivals for people who haven't
Speaker 1: been vaccinated, like the especially in America, where like I
Speaker 1: feel like there's been the time to be vaccinated and
Speaker 1: like this is the one that blows my mind. At
Speaker 1: least one hundred US Olympic athletes are unvaccinated, Like how
Speaker 1: is that allowed? Like that? Ah? But like what how? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't understand how we're Like the health lead for
Speaker 1: the U. S Olympic Committee was like, we're actually pretty
Speaker 1: happy with that number because it's like a pretty small
Speaker 1: percentage of of our athletes. But I just don't understand.
Speaker 1: I feel like there is you know, we talked last
Speaker 1: week about how to make this to kind of shift
Speaker 1: the direction we're going with all the disinformation that's out there,
Speaker 1: we need to make it the hard choice to remain
Speaker 1: on vaccinated rather than the easy choice, which seems like
Speaker 1: what it is now, and it just feels like we're
Speaker 1: we're not doing that. We're still just like being like yeah, no, okay,
Speaker 1: up to you, up to you, guys. It feels kind
Speaker 1: of bizarre too, because I feel like now that everyone
Speaker 1: is kind of back out vaccinated or unvaccinated largely, there
Speaker 1: was once this really public push for like we need someone,
Speaker 1: you know, we need leadership here, Like what the funk
Speaker 1: is going on? What is like, is there some standard
Speaker 1: to how we can keep each other safe? And now
Speaker 1: it's like we're in a different version of the same situation,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't even feel like there's really that same
Speaker 1: demand for leadership and it's still not happening, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like people are as I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: not as top of mind because everyone's just out and
Speaker 1: like relieved that they can be out it. I don't know,
Speaker 1: saying it out loud like well, this sounds like a
Speaker 1: recipe for a disaster, which if you look at the
Speaker 1: like way that COVID cases are going in some parts
Speaker 1: of the United States, that's exactly where we're headed. And Jack,
Speaker 1: what's so interesting about what you said about the Olympics,
Speaker 1: about how there's still a hundred or so Olympians who
Speaker 1: have not been vaccinated. The Olympics can police so many
Speaker 1: aspects of what the athletes do and don't do, from
Speaker 1: the hormones and their body, from their hair, whether or
Speaker 1: not they were shorty shorts or bikins or whatever, and
Speaker 1: yet when it comes to vaccination, they're like, whatever you'll
Speaker 1: want to do, you know, like it just that so interesting,
Speaker 1: the fact that you can't smoke weed but you can
Speaker 1: be unvaccinated. It's like, what, what make it makes sense? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it truly does not. All right, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back. And we're back, and
Speaker 1: just a real quick check in with Donald Trump. So
Speaker 1: he and his associated packs, you know, used breathless appeals
Speaker 1: about stopping the steel and like the urgency of preserving
Speaker 1: American democracy while he was trying to like steal the
Speaker 1: election and the aftermath of like he's losing the election,
Speaker 1: but he, you know, successfully use these email please to
Speaker 1: raise hundreds of millions of dollars from just like small
Speaker 1: donations from Americans, and apparently at the end of this
Speaker 1: month he has to like do a filing where he
Speaker 1: shows what he spent the money on, and it turns
Speaker 1: out he didn't spend any of it, like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So the Washington Post reports that Trump's Save America Leadership pack,
Speaker 1: which raised some seventy five million dollars on the back
Speaker 1: of like his barrage of lies, has yet to spend
Speaker 1: any of that money in support of the recounts. And
Speaker 1: he's just which suggests he's just going to keep it
Speaker 1: for himself. He just has the money now. But it
Speaker 1: was like explicitly he was asking people explicitly to give
Speaker 1: him money so he could like pursue like recounts and
Speaker 1: like do all these things. And it's just like we
Speaker 1: we already know that was a lie. Like we we
Speaker 1: can just like point to this information that it's a lie.
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's gonna change literally a single mind,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's just so fucking transparent. It's frustrating.
Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, if you give money to Trump,
Speaker 1: I mean, on the one hand, I feel bad for
Speaker 1: these people because I know that he prays on his
Speaker 1: supporters who are elderly or you know, working class who
Speaker 1: like don't really have a ton of money. So I
Speaker 1: feel for them in that way. But he's a scammer.
Speaker 1: Like he he has a whole long history of not
Speaker 1: paying people, running out on bills, and stealing money from
Speaker 1: his own supporters, and so this is not surprising to me.
Speaker 1: He's definitely he was going to keep that money for
Speaker 1: personal enrichment, you know, And I'm not It's not surprising.
Speaker 1: This is what he does. This is his thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's going to turn Barren into a transformer with it.
Speaker 1: Baron is tall man. That's the word on the street.
Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about the tallest son who no longer lives
Speaker 1: in the White House. All right, let's talk about the
Speaker 1: consequences of wildfires. You know, as fun as it is
Speaker 1: to walk through Times Square and have it smell like
Speaker 1: a camp fire because of fires that are happening in
Speaker 1: ore Agaon and like all the smoke just blowing across
Speaker 1: the country, there are some less cool things that are
Speaker 1: gonna be happening because of the fact that we now
Speaker 1: have like a global fire season. So we've got so
Speaker 1: here are some of the things that are going to
Speaker 1: be ruined. We'll start with the very basic. Going outside.
Speaker 1: We have a little more experience in California with what
Speaker 1: that future looks like. Like I took a trip with
Speaker 1: my kids into like California Wilderness last year during fire season,
Speaker 1: and like it's, you know, some days you can't go outside.
Speaker 1: It's it's like going somewhere during rainy season, where like
Speaker 1: half the days you can't go outside. You just have
Speaker 1: to like bring puzzles and board games because it's gonna
Speaker 1: be too smoky and like to breathe basically, and then
Speaker 1: like on the good days, the sky will be pale gray,
Speaker 1: but the sunsets, though really cool sunsets, makes it all
Speaker 1: worth it. They're saying, even as far north as Minnesota's
Speaker 1: Boundary Waters Canoe area, the air quality is it's considered
Speaker 1: safe to be thirty or below and on Tuesday it
Speaker 1: was fifty in Minneapolis and two nine further north. So
Speaker 1: weed is going to be affected. So apparently they're seeing fire,
Speaker 1: tornadoes and what's known as the Emerald Triangle, which is
Speaker 1: like where most of the weed in California has grown.
Speaker 1: And it's not just that like the fire and drought
Speaker 1: might burn the crop up. The stuff actually like makes
Speaker 1: it so you're going to the the flower is going
Speaker 1: to be like very smoky and sooty like flavored, and
Speaker 1: who knows like what that is actually doing too. Everything
Speaker 1: like a thing that you're putting into your body is
Speaker 1: covered with like a fine dusting of just like whatever
Speaker 1: happens to catch on fire. Awesome. So basically everything good,
Speaker 1: the outgoing outside and being high. Forget about it. Wine also, uh,
Speaker 1: like you know a lot of that comes from the
Speaker 1: northern California area, and you'll you'll be getting a rich
Speaker 1: like stone fruit with hints of chocolate behind the overpowering
Speaker 1: taste of bong water because it's gonna just it's gonna
Speaker 1: taste ashy. It's gonna taste like an ashtray because the
Speaker 1: grapes are gonna have smoke kind of infused throughout them. God,
Speaker 1: I honestly had I mean, the big picture stuff is
Speaker 1: so horrifying that I hadn't even thought about how that's gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, trickle down to two crops and consumer products
Speaker 1: and and and stuff like that. Yeah, Like seafood, they're
Speaker 1: saying the clams are literally cooking and their shells and
Speaker 1: the Pacific they're surfacing with their shells popped open like
Speaker 1: they've been steamed. That sounds like a page from the
Speaker 1: Lower Ax that sounds terrible. Coffee is just because of
Speaker 1: the drought conditions hurting Brazil, their coffee is gonna be
Speaker 1: more expensive this this fall. And also apparently like it
Speaker 1: just makes COVID nineteen like worse, Like you're more likely
Speaker 1: to die from COVID in an area with worse air quality.
Speaker 1: Oh that makes sense. Yeah, that's I mean, there have
Speaker 1: been a number of pieces coming out in the past
Speaker 1: couple of weeks about, yeah, like that the class and
Speaker 1: racial implications of climate change and how how it's going
Speaker 1: to you know, disproportionately affect working class and black and
Speaker 1: brown communities, and it's it's just I don't know. I
Speaker 1: I wish that that angle as well, we're a more
Speaker 1: common talking point with climate change, because I feel like
Speaker 1: it comes up but not with the amount of Like
Speaker 1: I don't think that my parents have heard of that
Speaker 1: angle of climate change, and it seems like it's still
Speaker 1: a pretty under discussed thing. But you know, if I
Speaker 1: told my aunts their wine would be affected, maybe they
Speaker 1: would care. It's just it's just awful. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's a good point, like the the who of it,
Speaker 1: like rather than like the because the abstract science clearly
Speaker 1: isn't like convincing anybody, but the who of it? Like who,
Speaker 1: first of all, who is doing the polluting that is
Speaker 1: changing the climate? Is like, you know, majority of it
Speaker 1: has been done by massive corporations, by like a handful
Speaker 1: of very rich people. And then like who is going
Speaker 1: to be hurt by it? Like is yeah, majority like
Speaker 1: poor and persons of color and nations that don't have
Speaker 1: the ability to like make changes and adapt on the
Speaker 1: fly are going to be hurt. Like I I really
Speaker 1: do feel like like emphasizing the who of it is
Speaker 1: probably a better strategy or underused strategy completely. And I
Speaker 1: think another way to say that that really helps me
Speaker 1: conceptualize it is the people who did the most to
Speaker 1: cause the problem are being the least impacted by it,
Speaker 1: and the people who are most directly impacted by it
Speaker 1: did the least to cause the problem. And I think,
Speaker 1: really think and and so when people will use the
Speaker 1: word in like climate injustice, that's really how I think
Speaker 1: of it, because it is an injustice, you know, that's
Speaker 1: you know, like billionaire like largely white lead billionaire corporations
Speaker 1: are the ones causing the problem and are doing the
Speaker 1: least to solve that problem, all while trying to distract
Speaker 1: us by over emphasizing individual choices like you know, whether
Speaker 1: or not you recycle as part of the a as
Speaker 1: as part of the problem, and obviously everybody should be
Speaker 1: making responsible choices. I'm not saying those those things don't matter.
Speaker 1: But it's so interesting to me how corporations will stamp
Speaker 1: like please recite go on their bottle. But it's like,
Speaker 1: y'all are the corporations. You'all can change us if you
Speaker 1: want to worry, why are you Why are you bringing
Speaker 1: me into it? Like why don't y'all look in the
Speaker 1: mirror and do something? You know? And so it really
Speaker 1: it's one of those issues that I just think is
Speaker 1: the way the way we talk about it is perhaps misleading.
Speaker 1: The way we think about it is perhaps misleading. And
Speaker 1: it's a real problem because it's it's not coming. It's here,
Speaker 1: like climate climate collapse is like I think we're in it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like five years, ten years, a
Speaker 1: hundred years. I think what we are experiencing now, the
Speaker 1: kinds of intense heats and droughts and things of that nature,
Speaker 1: I think it's here. It does kind of remind me.
Speaker 1: I mean just of how we were talking about the
Speaker 1: the vaccination versus unvaccination conversation early of you know, making
Speaker 1: it an individual failure and not really you know, the
Speaker 1: governor of Alabama just avoiding the possibility that it was
Speaker 1: a systemic failure that she was like a really big
Speaker 1: part of it. Feels like there's kind of a different
Speaker 1: version of that going on when we're talking about climate
Speaker 1: where you know, it's you you see that the crisis
Speaker 1: is getting worse with each year that passes, and it's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I it is humbling, Like the first time
Speaker 1: I learned that even if every single person in the
Speaker 1: world was doing what they could to reduce their carbon footprint,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't move the needle as much as if there
Speaker 1: was some sort of regulation put on these billion dollar companies.
Speaker 1: Like it's just and but but they don't give a
Speaker 1: ship because they're just going to go to space or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's part of it, Like America is addicted to individualism
Speaker 1: and and like you know, whether it's the the origin
Speaker 1: story of a company like giving all the credit to
Speaker 1: like one person just like gritting their way through it
Speaker 1: instead of like the hundreds of people who like work
Speaker 1: together and helped that person. Like that. We we love
Speaker 1: just writing the the other people out of a success story,
Speaker 1: and like the same goes for like casting the blame.
Speaker 1: We we just want to it all to be about
Speaker 1: individual choices and like we are all the heroes of
Speaker 1: our own narrative and we can we can fix this
Speaker 1: because movies told us we could. That said, though I
Speaker 1: will be bummed if my Francis starts tasting like an
Speaker 1: ash tray. That is also something to keep in mind. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's talk about streaming. So there's this new study out
Speaker 1: from Nielsen now that Nielsen is actually like measuring streaming
Speaker 1: they like via people's servers, so it's not just like
Speaker 1: a only if you stream stuff on your computer, which
Speaker 1: is what it was at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 1: They've recently unveiled a thing that actually checks through servers
Speaker 1: like how much data is being downloaded and like matches
Speaker 1: that up to the streaming so that they know how
Speaker 1: much content is actually being streamed. I know it's very invasive,
Speaker 1: but it's I was. I was surprised. So they kind
Speaker 1: of released like just total amount of like how people
Speaker 1: are consuming entertainment at home, and it's cable still broadcast,
Speaker 1: so like it's still sixt like traditional like TV ship
Speaker 1: and then all streaming like that's like that files, YouTube, Hulu, Prime,
Speaker 1: Disney Plus, like all of those add up to I'm
Speaker 1: very interested in the streaming. There's like something labeled eight
Speaker 1: percent other streaming, Like is that what? Like twitch? Like
Speaker 1: what is that? Yeah? Yeah, I'm not sure, but like
Speaker 1: maybe it's just like kind of the long tail of
Speaker 1: like all the other like Peacock and HBO Max other
Speaker 1: ones that aren't on here. But yeah, and there also
Speaker 1: as a chunk of other other that's people like staring
Speaker 1: at like roadkill. Maybe it's people who read books, Jamie
Speaker 1: everything about that. I just totally I told them myself.
Speaker 1: I'm more likely to stare at road killman rate a book.
Speaker 1: Where do you all get? Like do you do you
Speaker 1: have cable? Do you streaming? Like what's going on in
Speaker 1: your house? Is like the only time we have non
Speaker 1: streaming stuff on is if it's live sports. That's that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we don't have we don't have cable. We just
Speaker 1: have streaming. I'm like, yeah, just watching roller coaster videos
Speaker 1: on YouTube most of the time. Are those p o
Speaker 1: V roller coaster videos where you get to experience. Then
Speaker 1: they're roller coaster documentaries. Yeah, there's uh yeah, defunct Land.
Speaker 1: If you want to watch a bunch of like forty
Speaker 1: five minute doc memories about the history of roller coasters
Speaker 1: that no longer exist. It's niche, but there's millions of
Speaker 1: us watching. Yeah, you ask for what the other streaming is,
Speaker 1: it's a roller coaster documents. What about you, bridget do
Speaker 1: you have do you have cable? We have cable, which
Speaker 1: it's so silly because we really don't need to have cable.
Speaker 1: I guess I feel that flipping channels, just mindlessly flipping
Speaker 1: channels is such a big part of my life and
Speaker 1: I love it so much. It brings me so much
Speaker 1: comfort and joy that I and I have yet to
Speaker 1: find a streaming experience that like can mimic the feeling
Speaker 1: of just mindly mindlessly flipping panels and then being like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this random movie that I like swim fans on. I
Speaker 1: haven't thought about that movie in years. I'm gonna watch
Speaker 1: it right like that feeling of random discovery. If I
Speaker 1: could find a streaming platform that could mimic that, I
Speaker 1: will be in business. But that's what I'm wondering is
Speaker 1: if this, like if streaming platforms will use the two
Speaker 1: as like an indication that they should go harder on
Speaker 1: that like always on model, or if they should even
Speaker 1: like I don't know, like if Netflix had a bunch
Speaker 1: of channels that were like, okay, here, all movies curated
Speaker 1: by like your favorite director here like that are just
Speaker 1: you just turn it on and there's something playing and
Speaker 1: you know, you just can kind of like Pluto TV Model. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I don't have Pluto TV, but got to
Speaker 1: get Pluto TV. They have a Degrassi channel. Oh well,
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, Like what would people be more
Speaker 1: likely to like stream if they just like didn't have
Speaker 1: to make any decisions at all? Well, Netflix does have
Speaker 1: that thing now just like watch something now where I
Speaker 1: think they it's like I'm aggregate of the things that
Speaker 1: you watch or that you like, and then you just
Speaker 1: hit the button and they just pick for you. Which
Speaker 1: I don't know how you all feel, but I when
Speaker 1: I'm trying to start for something to watch, I can
Speaker 1: just watch documentary trailers for hours and I'm kind of
Speaker 1: stressed out about what to pick and so so I
Speaker 1: can see it. I don't use that feature, but I
Speaker 1: can see it being useful for folks who have just
Speaker 1: like have decision paralysis and don't know what to watch.
Speaker 1: I've felt some luck with that feature. But then I
Speaker 1: also I think they're also just being like they also
Speaker 1: pump into that feature, like movies that they have just
Speaker 1: released that aren't doing as well as they want them
Speaker 1: to do. Because I kept getting the Zack Snyder movie
Speaker 1: that I was like, there's nothing in my viewing history
Speaker 1: that would indicate I want this, but they're like, but
Speaker 1: you you want this, it's fun up and you want it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm interested. I'm always so interested in like there algorithms
Speaker 1: when they when you go on the Netflix and it's
Speaker 1: like the top ten trending things versus the like the
Speaker 1: popular I'm so curious, like how they've come to surface
Speaker 1: these these titles. Sometimes I think there they really are
Speaker 1: playing fast and loose, like they're just their new releases.
Speaker 1: They are pushing the boundary of what you could consider
Speaker 1: a new release. Every time I go on there, I'm like,
Speaker 1: this has been out for a year, how are you
Speaker 1: calling it releases? And why is coco melon always in
Speaker 1: the top ten? What does cocoa melon? I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: I'm not a baby, And isn't Coco melon? Jack? You
Speaker 1: you have kids, do they don't watch Coco Melon? Right?
Speaker 1: We There is a Coco Melon video on YouTube about
Speaker 1: potty training that they really enjoy. Is it the same
Speaker 1: company that does Johnny Johnny, Yes, Papa or am I? Oh?
Speaker 1: I have no idea that that sounds like you're just
Speaker 1: having a stroke. I know Johnny Johnny. My my little
Speaker 1: nephew loves it. Really yes, I just I mean I
Speaker 1: Netflix claims to know me, and yet it keeps trying
Speaker 1: to get me to watch Coco Melon at all. You
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna like Cocoa melon, Like I know
Speaker 1: you just finished watching The Circle again, Like you know
Speaker 1: what's coming on next, Zack Snyder. Cocoa Melon. Yeah, Coco
Speaker 1: Melon is just like one of those things. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of children's entertainment online is just
Speaker 1: like there were a million people on computers trying to
Speaker 1: make like computer animated children's entertainment at the same time
Speaker 1: and then like just through like a natural like survival
Speaker 1: of the fittest like darwin like YouTube Darwinism, Like a
Speaker 1: handful of them were just like randomly like fired really
Speaker 1: well in kids brains. And that's like how Coco Melon
Speaker 1: came about. It's just like people were like, oh ship,
Speaker 1: they really like this shape of a baby and like
Speaker 1: this type of music combined with it, and that's the
Speaker 1: same thing. Like there's there's other like pink Fong, which
Speaker 1: is the baby shark. People like it's just randomly hit
Speaker 1: on one thing and then they're just like more more
Speaker 1: of that. Um. But it's that like it's really like
Speaker 1: as a parent, you have to like I were very
Speaker 1: careful about like YouTube, because YouTube is just sure, it's
Speaker 1: not there's nothing being There's no like person who is
Speaker 1: making sure that if I turn around, like my kids
Speaker 1: not watching a fucking Ben Shapiro. Yeah, I mean, don't
Speaker 1: let algorithms raise your kids, right and right. And for
Speaker 1: a while there was that thing where I think there
Speaker 1: was an expose in the New York Times, and then
Speaker 1: YouTube try to take some measures to fix it. But
Speaker 1: particularly with children's programming, where you would be watching your kid,
Speaker 1: you would watching your kid would be watching a totally
Speaker 1: normal video, and then a few videos later the videos
Speaker 1: would seem like kids videos, but just would be very
Speaker 1: weird and dark and demented and then where it's like
Speaker 1: Spider Man got hit by a car or something. There
Speaker 1: were some like really dark ones. Oh that's so sorry
Speaker 1: to worry. Sorry, don't worry, wait Spider Man, that's oh man,
Speaker 1: I really wanted to just open up Netflix and like
Speaker 1: do the play random thing and see what I got.
Speaker 1: But it's not. It's not given it to me right now,
Speaker 1: it's not. But yeah, I feel like that, Like, isn't
Speaker 1: that just a like shuffle icon, Like it's just the
Speaker 1: shuffle icon? And then yeah, I feel like, yeah, they
Speaker 1: they're not putting a ton into that, like sort of
Speaker 1: always on the algorithm will choose for you type thing.
Speaker 1: And I think I think eventually they'll probably have like
Speaker 1: some Pluto TV style offering. But do you think you'd
Speaker 1: be like more likely to like watch a channel that
Speaker 1: was like all all of the teen dramas that are
Speaker 1: on Netflix, just like kind of always playing one or
Speaker 1: the other. That's a kind of question. I don't like.
Speaker 1: My instinct is no. But when you say it like that,
Speaker 1: like just oh, this is a genre the algorithm knows
Speaker 1: I like, and they're just going to randomize stuff, I
Speaker 1: would I would try it. Yeah, Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: I would too. If they had it always on channel
Speaker 1: for like fucked up documentary or like niche documentary, I
Speaker 1: would I would have it on all the time. I
Speaker 1: would like it would always be on in my home
Speaker 1: if that existed. Yeah, nature, nature documentaries like for me,
Speaker 1: like that's such great like background stuff to have on
Speaker 1: and like it doesn't damage your children. I hate that
Speaker 1: that's something you need to be like absolutely sure of
Speaker 1: in a streaming platform. But it makes sense nails to
Speaker 1: get bored by it so they don't just sit there
Speaker 1: like with their mouth agapem Well, Bridget and Jamie, it's
Speaker 1: been so fun having you guys on t DZ today. Bridget,
Speaker 1: where can people find you and follow you? You can
Speaker 1: find me on the I Heart Radio podcast. There are
Speaker 1: no girls on the internet where we would be happy
Speaker 1: to have you. We talked about all things Internet culture, technology,
Speaker 1: underrepresented voices, feminism, all that fun stuff. You can follow
Speaker 1: me on Instagram at Bridget Marie in d C or
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Bridget Marie. Yeah. Yeah. And is there
Speaker 1: a tweet or some of the work of social media
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? So I have a tweet from Morning
Speaker 1: Gloria Aaron Ryan. She says, I'm such a carry me
Speaker 1: every time I get revenge using my telekinesis. That's awesome, Jamie.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you? And what's tweet
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Jamie loft as help Instagram, Jamie christ Superstar. Listen to
Speaker 1: ac cast. It's we're halfway done with the series right now,
Speaker 1: and it's all about the Kathy comics, and this coming
Speaker 1: week we're gonna be talking about how she's very reflective
Speaker 1: of all of the frustrating qualities of boomers. And I
Speaker 1: interviewed my mom for a long time the whole thing.
Speaker 1: So listen to that. And then the tweet I've and
Speaker 1: enjoying is from meg Zie at by Meg and it's
Speaker 1: can't talk right now. I'm doing hot girl shit asterisk
Speaker 1: eating salt and vinegar chips to the point of causing
Speaker 1: dozens of cuts along the roof of my mouth, and go,
Speaker 1: maybe I have to tell you. When I was preparing
Speaker 1: for this interview, my initial underrated was gonna be Kathy
Speaker 1: because I feel like, listening to act Cast, I feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like Kathy got a real bad rap.
Speaker 1: But Kathy fucking slaps and I feel like we all
Speaker 1: we I'm happy that you're unearthing how awesome Kathy actually
Speaker 1: is and her cultural impact because I feel like we
Speaker 1: kind of let that one slide. We didn't really we
Speaker 1: didn't really celebrate Kathy for the icon that she is.
Speaker 1: So I almost was going to use that, but then
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that might be I don't know,
Speaker 1: you were gonna be the guest host, so like that
Speaker 1: might be like putting around the spot. Thank you. I'm
Speaker 1: so I'm so excited Kathy has been um. She was
Speaker 1: very nervous to listen to the show, but so far,
Speaker 1: so good. The creator of Kathy, oh yeah, not like
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, Jamie's really and people are gonna
Speaker 1: be like, James really in the creation of this show.
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, Kathy the is in deep. She's finally
Speaker 1: she's finally left her body. No, yeah, Kathy's a real
Speaker 1: person who lives in l A. You know, she's local.
Speaker 1: M alright tweet. I've been enjoying Luke Moans tweet. If
Speaker 1: you go forty five minutes outside of any city, Everyone's like,
Speaker 1: let's all pretend us this out And Sarah Hog tweeted,
Speaker 1: I want to drink from the hair salon French press
Speaker 1: and showed you know those barb side things they are
Speaker 1: why are they French presses? But yeah, that makes it
Speaker 1: look extra delicious. I've always wanted to drink from that thing.
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Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as a song we think
Speaker 1: you should go check out. And Miles is not here
Speaker 1: to recommend a song, but Bridget, you're telling us about
Speaker 1: a band that a friend of yours is in that
Speaker 1: has both a very great band name and is also
Speaker 1: going on tourist Japanese breakfast. Yes, they're awesome. They're called
Speaker 1: Full Bush. You could use the song raise. I think
Speaker 1: that's one of our best song and it's about Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: so we can write after that, all right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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