Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season episode five of
Speaker 1: Like Guys, the production of I Heart Radio. This is
Speaker 1: a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's
Speaker 1: shared consciousness. It is Friday, June eight, Happy birthday to
Speaker 1: my wife, the love of my life. My name is
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien a ka. I read the news today, oh boy,
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Speaker 1: was rather read well, I just had to laugh on
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Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
Speaker 1: co host, Mr Miles Grag. Here we go. Well, now,
Speaker 1: now you know I am mild, I'm well knowing for
Speaker 1: my cannabis stout. My list of interest goes oh wow,
Speaker 1: maybe because I'm so versta tile style shoot fout. I
Speaker 1: said soon was always take me back when I hear
Speaker 1: Chucky miles from the l A River out to Vanna.
Speaker 1: I'm on all the spot to the very last mile. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now that I can just keep going, I mean I
Speaker 1: can't keep going because the lyrics stopped, but I will
Speaker 1: stop going because bo you did it beast boys. Fun fact,
Speaker 1: I saw them shoot that video in Japan when I
Speaker 1: was when I was a kid, I was there when
Speaker 1: they were shooting around Shinju and she BULLI you and
Speaker 1: stuff uh, And I was like these people doing and
Speaker 1: then I realized, Oh, that was the beast Buss the
Speaker 1: Beasty Boy. Yeah, that that was dope. You gotta give
Speaker 1: me the lyrics next time so I can do the
Speaker 1: hype man thing. Uh. We are thrilled. Miles fortunate blessed
Speaker 1: to be joined by one of the funniest stand up
Speaker 1: comics in the world, Comedy Central presents of the classic Uh.
Speaker 1: She was voted Portland's Funniest comic ultiple times. You know
Speaker 1: her from laft comes standing her own podcast Who's Your Gut?
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Speaker 1: for Daith. Please welcome Amy Miller's wife. And it's my birthday.
Speaker 1: Here's what I wanted. Hey, guys, what do you want
Speaker 1: for your birthday? You have a good what's your birthday?
Speaker 1: December thirty one, New Year's Eve? Baby? So this one?
Speaker 1: Did you have a kind of birthday this time or
Speaker 1: you think this is this next year? This is no?
Speaker 1: Well I had it was my fortie birthday, this last
Speaker 1: one and my friends made me accounting Crows video. I
Speaker 1: mean a bunch of my friends sang long December and
Speaker 1: cut it together and I watched. I was alone in
Speaker 1: a hotel room, but I had a zoom party. It
Speaker 1: was weird but fun. You know, It's something I'm never
Speaker 1: going to forget for sure. Did anybody have Adam Derwitz
Speaker 1: dreads in the you? Okay? Yes, one person did, and
Speaker 1: I think it was probably not okay because it was
Speaker 1: a white man. He did like he like, he didn't
Speaker 1: wear them, you know, he did it with a computer.
Speaker 1: But then they were you're imitating of the problematic Adam Derwitz,
Speaker 1: you're runing the source material. Unless he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been growing these act. They tried to
Speaker 1: contact him many times because for a birthday message or
Speaker 1: to be in the video, because you know, we're all
Speaker 1: from the East Bay, so like they did have connections
Speaker 1: they could call in. And then he didn't respond. And
Speaker 1: then someone was like, oh, he's on cameo, so we
Speaker 1: can just pay him. And so he made a cameo
Speaker 1: for my fort and he said, please stop having your
Speaker 1: friends contact my dad. I didn't know about any of it.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah, it was a weird birthday. But is
Speaker 1: it just because you guys are kind of area of
Speaker 1: origin or are you a big can of crows? Yes?
Speaker 1: I am a pretty big crow head. Um. Also, it
Speaker 1: was just it was just funny because yeah, we're all
Speaker 1: from like we all met in Berkeley where he's from,
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know, it's long December. It's
Speaker 1: a classic about December and how things are going to
Speaker 1: be better next year. Like it was, it was just amazing.
Speaker 1: I'll send you the video. You're gonna blown away by
Speaker 1: the effort. I mean I felt very loved, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: So you are the opposite of the baby like those
Speaker 1: first baby born, like you are the last baby born. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was born at like six am, So I don't
Speaker 1: think my mom could have waited until the new year. Right,
Speaker 1: where are your headlines? You know where the headlines for
Speaker 1: the six am on December thirty one babies? I know,
Speaker 1: I think the headline should be that my mom lived
Speaker 1: in the Spay and got a doctor in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: so I was officially born in San Francisco. Why would
Speaker 1: you do Why would you plan to cross the bridge
Speaker 1: when you're in labor? That's what I don't understand. What
Speaker 1: if there's traffic, My god, what if there's a I
Speaker 1: won't even say it. Yeah, if I had been born
Speaker 1: two hours later, you know, I would have been born
Speaker 1: on the bridge. That would be very tight. And then
Speaker 1: they'd be singing a different song for you. I think
Speaker 1: Water another East Bay band. Yeah, all right, Amy, We're
Speaker 1: going to get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 1: in a moment. Christ We're gonna tell our listeners a
Speaker 1: couple of things we're talking about today. Joe Manchin is
Speaker 1: possibly coming to the table a little bit, possibly maybe
Speaker 1: scooting his chair. He's bringing some bullshit to the table
Speaker 1: with him, but he's coming. He's coming to the table.
Speaker 1: He's scotching in. Oh, look who decided to come out
Speaker 1: of their bedroom. We're gonna talk about some of these
Speaker 1: concerned parents that you see on Fox. They will often
Speaker 1: be introduced as just a concerned parent who decided to
Speaker 1: get involved in politics because they were so outraged and
Speaker 1: maybe not the truth, which is shocking, I know for
Speaker 1: a Fox News. We'll talk about the Victoria's Secret Angels
Speaker 1: and twins. Uh. On top of that, we will talk
Speaker 1: about those twins. You can actually get an Airbnb at
Speaker 1: the Dungeon where at Aliens and Quim and I were recorded,
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. I finally found some compelling
Speaker 1: UFO debunking material that I will talk about. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a podcast that a few people had sent us
Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks. I realized, and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: I've seen this, make right. This is the one thing
Speaker 1: everyone was like, listen to this one, try this one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this one. Somebody finally gave me the time code, or
Speaker 1: at least I found the time code. So appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to all of that plenty more. But
Speaker 1: first Amy, we like to ask our guests, what is
Speaker 1: thing from your search history? Oh, you know, I've been
Speaker 1: in Denver too long, as I told you, guys, And um,
Speaker 1: I did look up green. They're so crazy about their
Speaker 1: green chili and it's like your state, you have one food,
Speaker 1: You guys got one food. And so I was looking
Speaker 1: at recipes for green chili and it seems pretty easy
Speaker 1: to make. I don't know. Every time I've had it here,
Speaker 1: it's been kind of bland. So I really don't know
Speaker 1: what all the buzzes about. But I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: make it. It's like they put it on ship like
Speaker 1: like no, it's made with yeah, but i'mo they like
Speaker 1: lay claim to it, which is really weird because you
Speaker 1: know of Mexico, um, and they put it on everything
Speaker 1: fries and sandwiches and pasta's like yeah, it's their food.
Speaker 1: So I just looked it up and it was really underwhelming.
Speaker 1: The rest to beee itself. So I don't know, it's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's fine. Yeah, is that gang? If you know?
Speaker 1: Is is there a difference between Colorado green chili and
Speaker 1: like what I know? It was just like I think
Speaker 1: that in Colorado is bland, right. They had to like
Speaker 1: it a little bit. They don't use any salt or spice.
Speaker 1: Green catchup. It's like a good food but without salt.
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize they had like a thing that
Speaker 1: they were yeah oh yeah, oh yeah yeah, because like green,
Speaker 1: I think of like New Mexico, right right right, that's
Speaker 1: where like I think of it being like a thing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, Colorado, Okay, they needed something before they
Speaker 1: were America's Amsterdam, you know, so they this was something
Speaker 1: that they could put put on their resume. Green stuff
Speaker 1: for green things. Yeah. What else have you been doing
Speaker 1: while you while you're in Denver? Anything? Anything? Just a
Speaker 1: lot of comedy pretty much like A hundred and four
Speaker 1: degrees so there too, huh Yeah. Typically I would be out,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll go to the zoo or something, make
Speaker 1: the most of my time on the road. But no,
Speaker 1: I'm staying in hot I did go to a Rockies
Speaker 1: game that was really fun. Yeah. I went to a
Speaker 1: Dodger game recently. Getting a baseball game's nice. Uh, Like
Speaker 1: it just feels like good, safe and easy fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: are super cheap there, I mean, even post pandemic. They're
Speaker 1: like seven dollars to go see the Rockies, so it
Speaker 1: was super fun. I had a hot dog Rocky dog. No,
Speaker 1: but I bet you they would do it. I bet you.
Speaker 1: Do you see any dangers? Yeah? I did, we saw too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well they're playing the Padres so I can't remember who
Speaker 1: it wasn't Machado, but yeah, I would know. It was
Speaker 1: a really great game. It's nice to be back out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the first interesting act I've ever heard about golf.
Speaker 1: My friends were texting each other about how much they
Speaker 1: like Mountain golf, and I assumed that was just like
Speaker 1: something boring, but apparently you can hit it like twice
Speaker 1: as far like golfing in the mountains because the air
Speaker 1: being thin. Yeah, that's why I went Hitdeo Nomo threw
Speaker 1: a no hitter against the Rockies. It was really impressive
Speaker 1: because that stadium really favors, uh the offensive play. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the balls carry for sure. Yeah, that's pretty cool and
Speaker 1: I remember that. Just to bring it back to the normal,
Speaker 1: I made my mom let me miss school the next
Speaker 1: day to celebrate the historical moment the Japanese got through
Speaker 1: the no hitter. So yeah, I would just find ways
Speaker 1: to be like, yo, I can't we can't go to
Speaker 1: school today, like not after that, Mom, Like I can't
Speaker 1: like what you want me to do, like we got
Speaker 1: to honor this. She's like fine, fool, Like just oh
Speaker 1: she really let you stay. Yeah yeah, she's just say
Speaker 1: you're sick. But I told my friends like full because
Speaker 1: no More threw that no hitter. Mom, Yeah, sick, sick
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, my dad used to let me stay
Speaker 1: home from school for the first two days of the
Speaker 1: n C Double A Tournament. Oh we all got a
Speaker 1: little weird ways that we Uh, you know, disenfranchised our
Speaker 1: children from getting I didn't really ask, I just nobody
Speaker 1: seemed to care. What what's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 1: Roasts comedy, roasts tired of him? I did a show
Speaker 1: the other nine in Colorado that was like had a
Speaker 1: roast element, but like I had headphones on and then
Speaker 1: people said mean things about me. I don't know what
Speaker 1: they said. I'm just tired of roasting. So it was
Speaker 1: just like, hey, don't face your tormentors and you don't
Speaker 1: know everyone's laughing at you. Pretty much. Yeah, I offered
Speaker 1: someone in the crowd twenty bucks cash to tell me
Speaker 1: the meanest things that they said. But I'm just like listen,
Speaker 1: Like it's a good it's a good vehicle for writing jokes,
Speaker 1: and I do like that. But I'm just tired, tired
Speaker 1: of roast culture. I want to get down with night comedy,
Speaker 1: sweet sweet sweetheart comedy. I think it's harder. I think
Speaker 1: it's because I think so much of our comedy was
Speaker 1: just about being like cleverly mean early on, which is
Speaker 1: why I think a lot of like mean, what's happening now?
Speaker 1: This used to kill And it's like, well, that's because
Speaker 1: you were just like the cleverest bullet like verbal bully,
Speaker 1: and you canna a lot of things like that, but
Speaker 1: on top of it all, it's very toxic. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: feel like Kylaire's show that the compliment ross those are
Speaker 1: always really fun. She's still right jokes and uh it's
Speaker 1: competitive and do you feel so nice after? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: think it's a good exercise, right to think of how
Speaker 1: can I make being so kind actually just as funny
Speaker 1: as like the traditional thing of like let me point
Speaker 1: out what's different about this asshole? Absolutely, I feel like that.
Speaker 1: So you were sitting on stage with headphones on, blindfold
Speaker 1: and a blind Oh wow, the blindfold adds an extra
Speaker 1: element of I guess that's less firing squad or something.
Speaker 1: H Yeah, and they were playing the band static X.
Speaker 1: In my ears, it was really horrific. You couldn't even
Speaker 1: choose your own that's terrible. I was going to ask, like,
Speaker 1: what were they playing to try and blast out the sounds,
Speaker 1: and it's it's static X. Good to know. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was weird. I feel like that is like a night
Speaker 1: like an actual nightmare that somebody had and was like,
Speaker 1: I have to make this reel for a comedian. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the nightmare is I flew to Colorado to have my
Speaker 1: good friends say mean things about me. Doesn't make any sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're still going strong though. You know, Comedy Central is
Speaker 1: still heavily committed to roast culture. Yeah, overleveraged. I'd say,
Speaker 1: I think they're a little overlaved there. They're upside down
Speaker 1: on the roast culture. It's funny too, like when you
Speaker 1: see like I've seen reality shows or like like on
Speaker 1: a you know, the format of shows, there's like a
Speaker 1: bunch of people in the house like without TV, so
Speaker 1: they resort to doing their own like entertainment. I'll see
Speaker 1: them be like, we're gonna do a roast tonight, and
Speaker 1: then you see the amateur version of it and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, like this is actually you guys are
Speaker 1: just just like very hostily insulting each other. And then
Speaker 1: some people are laughing like oh they don't get what
Speaker 1: it is, and I'm like, that's why. Yeah, maybe roast culture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they roast on. They try to roast on drag Race
Speaker 1: sometimes and it's always really funny. That's some some unfunny
Speaker 1: queen like couldn't write jokes, and then she just calls
Speaker 1: RuPaul old and irrelevant, and then RuPaul is like sash away, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, you fucking fracker, motherfucker. No one mentions
Speaker 1: the fracking. Yeah, that's pracking off the table. They'll get
Speaker 1: to edit it out. You say the F word on
Speaker 1: the show, we'll get canceled. What the fuck, no fracking, fracking.
Speaker 1: You can say funk all you want. What is something
Speaker 1: you think is underrated? Amy pot roasts? Delicious keeping I mean, yeah, roast.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's all these sort of classic foods
Speaker 1: that we put in this category of like oh this
Speaker 1: is like a sixties housewife food or whatever, but like
Speaker 1: a pot roast is so good. Put veggies in there,
Speaker 1: slow cook it. I mean you're eating for a week.
Speaker 1: It's delicious. Heavily support pot roast culture. Yeah, don't throw
Speaker 1: that in there with like dry meat loaf and fucking
Speaker 1: jello molds with Yeah those pot roast a delicious Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah good. And the thing is that the people who
Speaker 1: don't realize too A lot of times you might go
Speaker 1: in the term like that big gas hunk of meats
Speaker 1: probably like man, chuck, roast is cheap, and when it's
Speaker 1: not special, I buy the funk out of it for
Speaker 1: the same reason to just slow cook it because yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's a tougher cut. But there's a lot of
Speaker 1: connective tissue in it too that when you cook it
Speaker 1: down over time, it like makes whatever you're making have
Speaker 1: a little more of this like meat quality to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I get I get behind that one. It's the tendons.
Speaker 1: The tendons make it all soft and moist. I make
Speaker 1: my guinness stew with a chuck ross. Oh that sounds good. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little uh pressure cooker right now, just old school
Speaker 1: baby for people who are bad at cooking like me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the pressure cooker is like it's like a magic trick.
Speaker 1: It's like holy ship. Yeah. I still don't have one,
Speaker 1: but for the amount of like canned beans I eat,
Speaker 1: I feel like I owe it to myself to just
Speaker 1: get a like a pressure cooker so I can just
Speaker 1: make my own black beans. You're a big bean Boy,
Speaker 1: Oh you know him, a B B B Big Bean Boy,
Speaker 1: Big Baller brand. Oh yeah, I love being you gotta
Speaker 1: make your own beans. I always buy dry beans, put
Speaker 1: them in the insta pot. See see that's what a
Speaker 1: How long does it take? I mean a couple of hours?
Speaker 1: People should know that you could do it intues right
Speaker 1: Amy and I can see it. But for the listeners,
Speaker 1: Miles is recording this over a trash can fire with
Speaker 1: a can of baked that he's eating just out of
Speaker 1: the can. And I got these cuts on the corner
Speaker 1: of my mouth because I don't take the lid off
Speaker 1: on the side, because I just sip them out to can.
Speaker 1: It was nice to hear trash can fire. And it's
Speaker 1: a literal meeting, you know. It's like I'm tired of
Speaker 1: dumpster fire, like trash fire in general. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: on Twitter or whatever. It's nice. Hated a picture, also
Speaker 1: get a bad name, A little nice little trash camp
Speaker 1: fire down by the tracks. Another Creedence clear Water song
Speaker 1: that I enjoy. It's trash can Alright, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be back to talk about Joe
Speaker 1: Mansion more. Yea, and we're back, And Joe Mansion is
Speaker 1: a senator, Democratic senator apparently, what is the democratic in name? Only?
Speaker 1: Would that be a dino? Dino just fitting? I think
Speaker 1: for most Democrats in general, dinnosaurs who are all millionaires'
Speaker 1: I think, like, what is it of congresses millionaires? Think
Speaker 1: about that anyway? Joe Mansion. Yes, he's been one of
Speaker 1: the people, along with Christian Cinema from Arizona, to really
Speaker 1: drag his feet and hold up a ton of legislation
Speaker 1: that could occur. And I'm sure it's that you know,
Speaker 1: it must be nice for Joe Biden to use that
Speaker 1: as an excuse to it to be like, why I
Speaker 1: can't do anything because a Joe Mansion. But now he's
Speaker 1: beginning to change his stance a little bit on voting
Speaker 1: rights and the Filipbuster, not in a way that I
Speaker 1: would say hooray, Joe Mansion has them to the table,
Speaker 1: more like, oh, this dude is trying to okay jumpings
Speaker 1: in what is this exactly? He introduced a compromise bill
Speaker 1: that he said he could vote for because a lot
Speaker 1: of people like, why would you vote for the for
Speaker 1: the people actually like the thing that you know would
Speaker 1: help keep our votes safe and you know, a dual
Speaker 1: or at least protect us from all the funk re
Speaker 1: we see in a lot of Republican controlled states where
Speaker 1: their sense he's trying to be like, dude, votes don't
Speaker 1: count unless you're like white and you're voting for Republican
Speaker 1: and even if you guys do vote and when we'll
Speaker 1: find a way to just overturn it, so he doesn't.
Speaker 1: He wasn't supporting that version because there weren't enough Republicans supporting.
Speaker 1: Now he has his new bill, which has things like
Speaker 1: mandates for early voting, like automatic voter registration when people
Speaker 1: turn eighteen, and I think most importantly a ban on
Speaker 1: partisan jerrymandering, because a lot of ship is born out
Speaker 1: of like just like this really crude jerrymandering that is
Speaker 1: going on in many states, actually all states. So the
Speaker 1: other thing is he he opposed as though, things like
Speaker 1: the ability to have like a no excuse absentee vote,
Speaker 1: like just to be like, no, I don't need next years.
Speaker 1: I just want to vote absentee. And he's also just
Speaker 1: watering down other a ton of other things. And while
Speaker 1: Stacy Abrams supports it, a lot of people are like,
Speaker 1: there's this is fucking bullshit, dude. It's like you suck,
Speaker 1: Isn't that Like he's like still trying to push for voting.
Speaker 1: I d difference being it would be slightly less draconian
Speaker 1: in the types of idea that would now be accepted,
Speaker 1: so but still obviously, like I mean, in general, you
Speaker 1: have to prove who you are when you vote. But
Speaker 1: rather than making like it has to be this kind
Speaker 1: of idea blah blah blah, you can't take this. That's
Speaker 1: loosening somewhat. But at the end of the day, if
Speaker 1: you're not you know, philosophically, if you can't offer the
Speaker 1: people the ideas that they need and it's not free
Speaker 1: or like a very easy process, then we're getting into
Speaker 1: a poll tax territory because you'resensely saying like, oh, you
Speaker 1: gotta pay to do this or whatever. So yeah, it's uh,
Speaker 1: is far from perfect. And and Abrams supports the compromise
Speaker 1: because it's what she wants or because she thinks it
Speaker 1: has a better chance of passing. I don't know. That's
Speaker 1: the other hard part is that what are the chances
Speaker 1: of passing? Because even with this, it's gonna need ten
Speaker 1: Republicans to get over the line. And unless because the
Speaker 1: fucking filibuster, that's it's only making things more complicated. Which
Speaker 1: brings us to this other thing is that he said
Speaker 1: he's open to changing some of the rules around the
Speaker 1: filibuster or not doing away with it completely. But even then,
Speaker 1: I don't know, You know what who's in his head.
Speaker 1: Clearly he's he's getting pressure from like every fucking dimension
Speaker 1: and angle possible, So it's hard to know like what
Speaker 1: where he's actually at with this. But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: Stacy Abrams is saying. I think looking at things like
Speaker 1: the jerrymandering being gone, like well, that's a pretty significant
Speaker 1: thing to be taken out. But then the voter I
Speaker 1: D ship is just kind of like the like, let's
Speaker 1: get there's not a voter fraud problem. There's no, there's
Speaker 1: just not like there. We we have the evidence that
Speaker 1: that's not a problem. This only serves to disenfranchise like
Speaker 1: young people, poor people, and in my case, the disorganized
Speaker 1: and lazy who like will not go out and get
Speaker 1: real specific idea. Yeah that I'm like, funk it, I'll
Speaker 1: take my passport everyone. I know. I was so glad
Speaker 1: when it got extended, great pandemic we had because it
Speaker 1: was supposed to be I think this October and now
Speaker 1: it's next year, so we had some more time to
Speaker 1: get those real I D s folks think three months.
Speaker 1: I guess. Fuck. That actually just made me anxious. But
Speaker 1: maybe that's what I like to do here. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe if like he gets this gets enough support, and
Speaker 1: then like, I have no hope that this is going
Speaker 1: to actually get Republican support, but maybe us well help jerrymandering.
Speaker 1: The Republican is gonna fucking side there, like that's the
Speaker 1: only that's their lifeblood. But if he's showing his hand
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, this is what I'm for, and he
Speaker 1: sees that the Republicans are just straight up like block obstructionists,
Speaker 1: then maybe he'll kind of come come around a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is like all thinking twenty steps down
Speaker 1: the line, and who the funk knows what's gonna I mean,
Speaker 1: And to what Stacy Aver specifically said, she said, what
Speaker 1: Senator Mansion, this is a direct quote quote what Senator
Speaker 1: Mansion is putting forward, or some basic building blocks that
Speaker 1: we need to ensure that democracy is accessible no matter
Speaker 1: your geography. And then that the tenants of the proposal
Speaker 1: were quote strong ones that will create a level playing field,
Speaker 1: will create standards that do not vary from state to state,
Speaker 1: and I think we'll ensure that every American has improved
Speaker 1: access to the right to vote. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: activists and other people who are looking at the original
Speaker 1: legislation would be like can't we get this version? But
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, like we may very well
Speaker 1: be in a place where there's not much else can
Speaker 1: be done, right, But yeah, I guess that's my question
Speaker 1: is like this bill would it make things better from
Speaker 1: where we are right now? Like in some instances it
Speaker 1: would make it better, and then some it would be
Speaker 1: like stricter voting ID laws where like the things in
Speaker 1: this bill are are definitely going to be a difference
Speaker 1: in what the laws that we have on the books
Speaker 1: now for sure. So like, yes, I think on some level,
Speaker 1: if you're like a Democrat who's counting votes, your your
Speaker 1: mentality is don't let the perfect be the enemy of
Speaker 1: the good, etcetera. But you know, I think when you
Speaker 1: look at just sort of how severe and how intense
Speaker 1: the campaign is on the right to disenfranchise voters, it's
Speaker 1: almost like I feel like we should be firing back
Speaker 1: harder than this. But that's why I'm a podcaster who
Speaker 1: left politics. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of
Speaker 1: the not completely disastrous. We're dying come. It's just like
Speaker 1: a buttering up of mansion, right, Like it probably won't pass,
Speaker 1: but if it did, it's like, oh, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: clearly power hungry, like he loves to be in this
Speaker 1: pivotal position, and uh, you know this is something that
Speaker 1: if it got if it passed, it would be like
Speaker 1: sea buddy, Yeah, your little thing at me? Okay, it's okay?
Speaker 1: Is it wasn't there something where he was making noise
Speaker 1: about like possibly getting this to get people to come
Speaker 1: around on the January six like looking into what actually happened.
Speaker 1: And then I haven't actually even read about that because
Speaker 1: every time I read it so depressing when it's like
Speaker 1: Capital Police being like that coward Republican wouldn't shake my
Speaker 1: hand and I protected him on January six, and you're like,
Speaker 1: this is a whole big yeah. Look man, if it's
Speaker 1: an omni crisis constantly in this country. M hmm, alright,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the concerned parents and teach is on
Speaker 1: Fox News. Yeah, this probably shouldn't surprise people, but given
Speaker 1: the rights new obsession with critical race theory, it's it
Speaker 1: turns out that some of the quote parents and teachers
Speaker 1: who are most alarmed about the possibility of critical race
Speaker 1: theory are just actually like act right wing activist straight
Speaker 1: up out of the fucking goblin swamp. Putting on a
Speaker 1: disguise that's not even a disguise, it's just a different
Speaker 1: lower third to be like I am concerned parent. There's
Speaker 1: like we talked about how critical race theory has been
Speaker 1: just completely all over the place on right wing media
Speaker 1: mentioned since March. There's this one guest who appears a lot.
Speaker 1: His names Ian Pryor, and whenever they have him on
Speaker 1: as like a guest like this is a Loudon County
Speaker 1: parent who has gone from concerned parents like many of you,
Speaker 1: to legal activist and they're like and he's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, you know, like I'm just a parent. And
Speaker 1: then you know, I saw how bad this critical race
Speaker 1: theory stuff was and I how to get involved. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing. The Daily Beasts just sort of kind of
Speaker 1: did a very basic analysis of just like googling these people,
Speaker 1: and Ian Prior first of all, has been on Fox
Speaker 1: like dozens of times just before like the before the uh,
Speaker 1: critical race theory hysteria. He just does an unconcerned parent
Speaker 1: or what was doing. Well, here's the deal, parent, Ian,
Speaker 1: he did launch a pack opposing critical race theory, but
Speaker 1: he's also an ex spokesperson at the Department of Justice
Speaker 1: and has also worked for very many high profile Republican groups.
Speaker 1: So this is a guy who's straight out of this like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's an operative, this is he's yeah, we know we
Speaker 1: see him. Yeah. And one more is this concerned teacher
Speaker 1: where they're just like, oh, look at this teacher says
Speaker 1: quote one of the teachers who was at that school
Speaker 1: board meeting, Like that's how they introduced this one guest,
Speaker 1: because you know all their footages of people being like
Speaker 1: this is this is crazy. My kid is gonna learn
Speaker 1: bad stuff and it will make it will harm him.
Speaker 1: That person is liltt Venetsian, who is actually affiliated with
Speaker 1: a pro Trump political group as we all know, or
Speaker 1: Charlie kirkste Turning Point USA also runs a Teachers for
Speaker 1: Trump social media group and has worked as a reporter
Speaker 1: for an outlet, right Side Broadcasting Network, who you've probably
Speaker 1: seen on YouTube where they do like non news. That's
Speaker 1: another person who goes on to kick and scream about
Speaker 1: person is still teaching. Like this all sounds like the
Speaker 1: biggest conflict of interest I've ever heard. I can't imagine
Speaker 1: they are right. It's like it's almost like once you teach,
Speaker 1: then you can go parading around on TV saying you're
Speaker 1: a teacher. You know, like where people in their mind
Speaker 1: it's like irrelevant if they're actually teaching, and the like
Speaker 1: this person is a teacher, they're like, yeah, I've I've
Speaker 1: been ousted from many districts about five years ago. But
Speaker 1: now I just sort of used this title to help
Speaker 1: bolster right wing talking points. So she was not a
Speaker 1: teacher her in Loudon County schools. I don't know specifically
Speaker 1: if she was, but that's just that's that's why it's
Speaker 1: so insidious because the description one of the teachers who
Speaker 1: was at that school board meeting. You could be a
Speaker 1: teacher from fucking any town, USA, but you were at
Speaker 1: that meeting. And then I guess that still holds and
Speaker 1: you're saying that's one of the teachers at that meeting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean both sides are very guilty of like
Speaker 1: being selective when it comes to they're like the talking
Speaker 1: heads they bring on. We talked about how we had
Speaker 1: sort of a warped view of how likely it was
Speaker 1: that Mueller was gonna like lead Trump out of the
Speaker 1: White House and handcuffs because they had all prosecutors on
Speaker 1: and no defense attorneys who are like, actually, this isn't
Speaker 1: like the stuff that everybody's freaking out about is not
Speaker 1: as damning as y'all think it is. But to actually
Speaker 1: like fully just like fabric ate talking heads is pretty
Speaker 1: pretty whack and bad faith. It's interesting that it's so
Speaker 1: much more effective, Like what I don't I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't have kids, but I don't feel like just because
Speaker 1: someone else also has children that they're now an expert
Speaker 1: on whatever. I think keeping my kids safe means, in
Speaker 1: this case, teaching them the truth American history. And then
Speaker 1: on top of that critical race theory. I think that's
Speaker 1: the other thing that the whole conversation is hijacked, is
Speaker 1: that it's not even taught in the elementary schools, this
Speaker 1: concept of critical race theory again graduate level, at the
Speaker 1: university level. That's where this kind of actual academic discipline
Speaker 1: is where someone in you know, in school is going
Speaker 1: to intersect with this, not because you can. They're not
Speaker 1: teaching it to to like kindergarteners, although in Texas I
Speaker 1: think yeah, and in Texas so I think they're they've
Speaker 1: just Abbot is now signing a bill that will ban
Speaker 1: like discussion about race or something like teachers can't talk
Speaker 1: about it. So, I mean, I went to Christian school,
Speaker 1: so I was like earning the Bible in kindergarten, which
Speaker 1: is a way crazier thing to teach a little kid.
Speaker 1: But Jack, like, you have kids, do you just are you? Like, Well,
Speaker 1: that guy's a parent too, so I'm gonna listen to him.
Speaker 1: I don't only trust people who have kids. Everybody else
Speaker 1: totally childless demons. I'm fully aware, and I went into
Speaker 1: parenting fully aware that parenting gives you a form of
Speaker 1: temporary like insanity. That that's why we all That's why
Speaker 1: I like AD executives like they target eighteen to thirty
Speaker 1: four because thirty five is the average age of Americans
Speaker 1: that have kids. It's like they're like, after that, You're
Speaker 1: just like that, we can't. I can't really respect anything
Speaker 1: that you have to say. So I actually trust people
Speaker 1: who have kids less because I think they're just we're
Speaker 1: inherently by by like whatever happens to be going on
Speaker 1: with our kids. So but I think I'm somewhat unique.
Speaker 1: And now I also want to see the papers on
Speaker 1: that on that guy's kids. I want to or I
Speaker 1: want to see the like three years of planning that
Speaker 1: they got for like they're like, we need somebody to
Speaker 1: procreate with this activist. Oh god right, the network Network
Speaker 1: finds like some person willing to carry their child, and
Speaker 1: you will procreate with this person that will give you
Speaker 1: the cover for our fifteen year critical race theory campaign.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about what we're all really thinking about,
Speaker 1: and that is when are we going to get to
Speaker 1: see the Victoria's Secret Angels again? Baby? Never? Never they
Speaker 1: look Victoria's Secret. I think they got the message because
Speaker 1: their business has been like declining for years that you
Speaker 1: know they're they've they've altered their marketing and they've ditched
Speaker 1: the Angels and they're replacing them with the VS Collective.
Speaker 1: And this collective isn't a group of you know, sis
Speaker 1: women with impossible proportions. This is a you know, a
Speaker 1: diverse group including soccer star Megan Rapino, actress Prianka Chopra,
Speaker 1: South Sudanese Australian runway model, A dude, I catch a
Speaker 1: part of me if I've mispronounced the name Amanda de
Speaker 1: Catanet of The Conversation, skier Eileen Google, plus size model
Speaker 1: Paloma Elcessor and transmodel Valentinus empio and yeah this they're
Speaker 1: just trying to get away from this other thing. They
Speaker 1: can't call them, you guys probably don't. I don't know this,
Speaker 1: but I think their business also has been declining because
Speaker 1: their underwear falls apart, Like everything is useless once you
Speaker 1: put it wear at one time on your body, Like
Speaker 1: it's not a good product, and it's it feels very dated,
Speaker 1: you know, like Victoria's Secret is such a like nineties situation.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I'm alone in that. I
Speaker 1: think so their main demograph if it just grew up
Speaker 1: like it's me, you know, it's like forty year old
Speaker 1: women who are like, remember the nineties when you're hyper sexualized?
Speaker 1: Where will you go now? It's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I fucking woke up out of that case and realize
Speaker 1: what the world was, just soaking myself and they're like
Speaker 1: pair lotion and wearing braws that didn't hold up literally anything, yeah,
Speaker 1: and didn't fit and they're over Christ. Yeah, that pair
Speaker 1: of lotion just gave me such a sense memory. Oh
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, slather himself in it. Yeah, well it
Speaker 1: was from when I was twelve thirteen, so that what
Speaker 1: was it? Garden not fruit herbal Lessences shampoo, I mean
Speaker 1: scent kit going. You're like, that's Lessences with warm vanilla
Speaker 1: sugar from Bath and body Works. Yeah, our hair is
Speaker 1: not clean if you're not having an orgasm in the shower.
Speaker 1: Which is what makes this sort of like aside from
Speaker 1: this departure from the you know, the impossible angels model
Speaker 1: that they had going, you know, it's it's the outrage
Speaker 1: that this is obviously caused from where else conservative media
Speaker 1: about what this all means to have to to leave
Speaker 1: the over sexualized waters of nineties and eighties marketing for
Speaker 1: something that is a little more inclusive. And there's this
Speaker 1: guy at the Federalist who it just shows you again
Speaker 1: it reinforces this conservative worldview of like what this sort
Speaker 1: of very gender normative, heteronormative like male female dynamic is. Quote.
Speaker 1: It was less than twenty years ago that a series
Speaker 1: of beer commercials featured two busty blonde sisters, Diane and
Speaker 1: Elane Klimazowski. The two were branded as the Coors Light
Speaker 1: Twins and became controversial in the two thousand four Colorado
Speaker 1: Senate Republican campaign of Pete Kore's, then the chairman of
Speaker 1: the brewing company goes on to say, at the time
Speaker 1: it was a scandal for a conserva of politician to
Speaker 1: endorse the ads and what used to be a red state.
Speaker 1: Now it's conservatives mocking Victoria's secrets, abandonment of the busty
Speaker 1: blonde stereotype as a perfectly legitimate source of sexual attraction
Speaker 1: as the progressive movement seeks to eliminate gender differences altogether.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, yeah, that's clearly what they're doing. Do you
Speaker 1: know what Victoria's secret is? Like? First of all, like,
Speaker 1: because it's not a strip club, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's they sell underwear for people, it's not a But again,
Speaker 1: I think this shows like the the brainwashing of marketing
Speaker 1: that occurs to where even this man is like, what
Speaker 1: the hecks going on? This? What? What's what happened to
Speaker 1: just be getting off to busty blonde women. I don't
Speaker 1: get where the fucking earth has gone? He goes on
Speaker 1: to say, quote the rules now appear reversed. It's liberals
Speaker 1: who seem to be repulsed by the unapologetic sex appeal
Speaker 1: of twin blondes at a football game sponsored by a
Speaker 1: patriotic American beer company. Uh. Then he goes on to
Speaker 1: say like Washington football team and then says, formerly the
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins talked about how they got rid of their
Speaker 1: cheerleading squad um and they would probably prefer like the
Speaker 1: new squad be transgender, minority and overweight. Quote as a
Speaker 1: righteous rejection of basic beauty standards, demanding viewers reject their
Speaker 1: primal inhibitions. What the fuck is going on? He's been
Speaker 1: turned down a lot, I think for sex, and he's
Speaker 1: what if we I would love if the company came
Speaker 1: out and was like, okay, so we've never actually told
Speaker 1: you what Victoria's secret is, and the secret is she's trans,
Speaker 1: she's mixed race. God, I knew something was wrong. I
Speaker 1: knew with this whole time. But like this whole thing too,
Speaker 1: this idea of like that there, like the rejection of
Speaker 1: quote basic beauty standards. First of all, what the fuck
Speaker 1: does that mean? The Corps Light Twins couldn't be more basic? Like,
Speaker 1: m where's my aryan? Fat material? That's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1: But this is also the thing. It's like back to
Speaker 1: this sort of strip club comparison, because it's it is
Speaker 1: this notion that women are the playthings of men that
Speaker 1: is fueling this outrage where he's realizing he's like, well,
Speaker 1: what gets me off isn't what society is like even
Speaker 1: trying to market anymore. So now he's like, what's going on?
Speaker 1: What does that mean about my power to say? No,
Speaker 1: it's got to be big breast blonde women. Yeah. They
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the whole conservative thing is they
Speaker 1: have to create straw men and then act like it's
Speaker 1: a thing they have to defend, Like they have to
Speaker 1: defend traditionally attractive blonde women like that they're being attacked
Speaker 1: because God forbid. People have other ideas of how to
Speaker 1: feel good about themselves. Yeah, I mean, you're gonna make
Speaker 1: me look at her? Come on, what who are you?
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's interesting too for conservatives that are like
Speaker 1: evangelical Christians, because there's not I mean, it's very anti
Speaker 1: gets a sin too over sexualized women. I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: like keep them from power. Of course, the Bible is
Speaker 1: very misogynistic, but like, yeah, you're not supposed to just
Speaker 1: see women as sexual beings. So it's interesting. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean shockingly hypocritical for conservatives. I can't believe it, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that's where you see, especially with evangelicals,
Speaker 1: how quickly they're willing to pivot away from things that
Speaker 1: you thought were like foundational to their religion in service
Speaker 1: of this more like ethno nationalistic, paternalistic agenda, which is
Speaker 1: like white men were number one. We tell the ladies
Speaker 1: how to dress, they listen, and we're good forever. Let's
Speaker 1: not do this. I'm sorry I was using God has
Speaker 1: covered to make it seem like I wasn't just a
Speaker 1: toxic ship pile. But yeah, I guess now that my
Speaker 1: backs against the wall, I will say, you know what,
Speaker 1: Jesus would have liked the twins too. You would have
Speaker 1: jerked off to that commercial like this was a blonde
Speaker 1: with big tits everybody. Can you imagine wearing a T
Speaker 1: shirt with a new version of the Crucifixion, with that
Speaker 1: version of Jesus, that would that would sell some. He's
Speaker 1: just stacked, it's got a huge dong just dangling blow
Speaker 1: his sash. I guess it's not that underwear whatever. I
Speaker 1: guess it's not a loincloth either. And my now, you
Speaker 1: guys know what kind of church I went to. Jesus
Speaker 1: was just very Yeah, Jesus he wore he had like
Speaker 1: Jewelry on two and Ship. He's like, yeah, he was,
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back, and there's a possibility, let's say,
Speaker 1: if you're really quick on the trigger, that you could
Speaker 1: stay in the Dungeon where Outcasts recorded like two of
Speaker 1: the great rap albums of all time according to geriatric millennials.
Speaker 1: And yeah, just a bunch of ship where TLCS Waterfalls
Speaker 1: was produced, organized noise there, that's where it all started.
Speaker 1: They I mean you remember Jack, you were you would
Speaker 1: be in class out in school and I would just
Speaker 1: be in the Dungeon shooting pool. Yeah, you know, thinking
Speaker 1: of the second album, like yes to the p N.
Speaker 1: I mean that the Dungeon if if you are familiar
Speaker 1: at all, like it's constantly mentioned, the Dungeon family. It's
Speaker 1: all because of this basement studio um in the Lakewood
Speaker 1: area of Atlanta where all of this stuff was recorded.
Speaker 1: And I got so excited because to me, it's always
Speaker 1: a thing I've heard reference or I've seen like old
Speaker 1: pictures of when you look at like retrospectives about like
Speaker 1: Atlanta hip hop or Outcast. And apparently Big Boy bought
Speaker 1: the house back in and it's like been just renovated
Speaker 1: now and done up to sort of aesthetically mirror like
Speaker 1: elements of like outcast lore, Like there's like a stankonia clearly,
Speaker 1: like a reference reference to stankonia, like painting on the
Speaker 1: wall and like speaker box, love below room type things.
Speaker 1: But they're gonna have three overnight stays okay at the
Speaker 1: house in June or July for only twenty five dollars
Speaker 1: a night because the twenty anniversary of a t aliens
Speaker 1: shout out to geriatric millennials. Um. Yeah, once it goes live,
Speaker 1: it's first come, first served, So I don't know if
Speaker 1: bots are going to get to it, but I'm I
Speaker 1: just love this kind of ship because more than like
Speaker 1: a dope ass fucking luxury hotel, like, I'm also kind
Speaker 1: of interested in like, hey, you want to go to
Speaker 1: like pop culture like significant place us us to stay,
Speaker 1: like you know, the fucking Walter White's House or some
Speaker 1: ship like that. I feel like that's a new wave
Speaker 1: that's slowly starting to emerge. Yeah there. I think they're
Speaker 1: also like putting little trailers like by the Love Shack
Speaker 1: that you can like rent out in Athens Georgia. And
Speaker 1: then I know, actually for I planned my best friend's
Speaker 1: special art party like eight years ago or something, and
Speaker 1: we rented out Fat Mike's house in Vegas, which he'll
Speaker 1: do for like thirty days at a time. He just
Speaker 1: goes to stay somewhere else or something. So it's like
Speaker 1: it's not cheap because you have to rent the whole month,
Speaker 1: but like it's you know, it's like the Grotto. There's
Speaker 1: like a weird you know, a hot tub Fat Mike Tyson,
Speaker 1: Fat Mike of of No Effects. Yeah, it's in Vegas,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I love I love this trend. Like it's
Speaker 1: you know, I mean you can stay in a hotel whenever.
Speaker 1: It's like being a part of history is really cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and also like just to like quite literally you're in
Speaker 1: the building with this energy was exchanged to create these albums,
Speaker 1: like and in the basement, you know a lot of
Speaker 1: people they signed, like the rafters and things, and they
Speaker 1: said all those signatures like are intact, Like when you
Speaker 1: go there, like you're gonna see like when you know,
Speaker 1: Andre signed it like in or something, and it's ship's
Speaker 1: still there and you're like, this is the fucking space
Speaker 1: they did it I don't know, there's something really I
Speaker 1: love something like that, and it's the same thing we
Speaker 1: saw with who was trying to do, Like I forget
Speaker 1: what other huge I p thing they're trying to to
Speaker 1: rent out. I feels like the Fresh Prince House was
Speaker 1: a thing a couple of years ago, but a lot
Speaker 1: of times the exteriors are not the same as the interiors, right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe you would have to like carve it
Speaker 1: up a little bit. Like this feels like the perfect
Speaker 1: one because it's not like a thing that we've seen.
Speaker 1: We've only imagined it in our minds. So what other
Speaker 1: house you want to say? I want to stay at
Speaker 1: the Soprano House And oh yeah that I'm surprised they
Speaker 1: haven't opened up Paisley Park yet, like you can tour,
Speaker 1: but they haven't rented it out to my knowledge, that
Speaker 1: would be dope. The is the Manson House still standing?
Speaker 1: The Murder House sharing tape Murder House? Yeah, someone just
Speaker 1: bought it, I think, yeah, like that, that's what would
Speaker 1: be the other side of that coin, like as like
Speaker 1: a dare if you can like stay in there for
Speaker 1: a whole night. Oh yeah, like you can say, like
Speaker 1: the Shining Hotel, is a big one. People just rent
Speaker 1: that entire thing out with three with your family in
Speaker 1: the winter. Yeah, one point nine millions for the Manson house.
Speaker 1: That seems cheap for l a right now, gruesome murder happening.
Speaker 1: I got some weird vibes in there. Yeah, it said
Speaker 1: after eight months on the market, they sold it at
Speaker 1: a discounted price. Huh wait yeah, wait were the La Bianca's.
Speaker 1: Is that another family that got killed? No, I think
Speaker 1: that might be. No, that's that's Oh, that's not the same.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a big like murder person, so
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I just know that there's a
Speaker 1: headline saying that Charles Manson murder house. Finally, Oh, I
Speaker 1: think there was another family that got killed. That okay,
Speaker 1: so there's another terrible, gruesome murder where you can now
Speaker 1: you your family can grow up, you too can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's probably not a great place to raise a family,
Speaker 1: but like you could definitely rent it out and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just do like fucking true crime hotel weird ship for
Speaker 1: people who do that, and then just like go in
Speaker 1: and funk with people in the middle of the night
Speaker 1: and it will be legendary like that. You know that's what.
Speaker 1: So we are developing podcast with a YouTube channel that
Speaker 1: does like haunted house ship and like so when you
Speaker 1: go like watch their videos, they go like on the
Speaker 1: Queen Mary and like all these different they go to
Speaker 1: these haunted locations and like the stuff that happens. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: so these people like have a very elaborate like business model,
Speaker 1: like the people who run the hotels where they like
Speaker 1: do weird ship that is like we'll freak you out
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. M hm. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a hotel in Tucson, Hotel Congress, where
Speaker 1: they there's one room they never rent out allegedly because
Speaker 1: it's so haunted, but they'll like let you go in
Speaker 1: there and like here's some ship and sometimes they're like, well,
Speaker 1: we're super sold out. So we had to rent the
Speaker 1: ghost room for cheap, and according to the manager, people
Speaker 1: never end up staying the whole night, like they'll be
Speaker 1: like I can do it, I don't believe this ship,
Speaker 1: and then they end up checking out like two hours later.
Speaker 1: I'm constantly filled with regret over when I moved to Portland,
Speaker 1: I found this house is a three bedroom house Victorian gorgeous.
Speaker 1: It was right by work where I was going to work.
Speaker 1: It was nine dollars a month in two thousand twelve,
Speaker 1: and I was like, something's up so and there had
Speaker 1: been a murder suicide just a couple of months before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were renting it at a discount, and it was
Speaker 1: like in the news and everything, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm too creeped out to live here by myself.
Speaker 1: And then you know, three years later, I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I could just be written out the other rooms. I
Speaker 1: could be air being being nine a month, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: I grew up and like one of the houses we
Speaker 1: lived in was like the neighbors that we lived next
Speaker 1: to were the first family to live there after somebody
Speaker 1: had killed themselves in that house and like that it
Speaker 1: was all I could think. Like when we lived in
Speaker 1: that house, I was just like that blew me away,
Speaker 1: Like I could not in my mind. I thought they
Speaker 1: destroyed houses. People even naturally died in living there. Now
Speaker 1: like you know, there's like cleaning services. That was my
Speaker 1: child brain. But it was just like it was a
Speaker 1: house on the side with a basketball hoop and every
Speaker 1: time I like missed a shot and it rolled over
Speaker 1: there like that's what I was thinking about. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh damn, I wonder if it was that room, right,
Speaker 1: Sardine and Bretzel the I will say this, um Amy,
Speaker 1: this might be relevant to you. Would you be down
Speaker 1: to go drink at the New Amsterdam from Mr Jones
Speaker 1: was down at the New amsterdawn staring at just yell
Speaker 1: so apparently it's International Sports Bar. It's it was. I
Speaker 1: was just reading this thing about this guy. Didn't realize
Speaker 1: he was working in the bar that used to be
Speaker 1: the New Amsterdam from Mr Jones And it's a it's
Speaker 1: a bar in I think the Mission or no, it's
Speaker 1: on Columbus and it used to be called the New Amsterdam.
Speaker 1: It's now called the International Sports Bar. You want to
Speaker 1: yellow that dang yellow haired girl. Yeah, it was one
Speaker 1: of the Cores Light Twins. Actually the thing was he was,
Speaker 1: I guess, actually in a Flamenco group. Like so that
Speaker 1: line about the Flamenco dancing wasn't just some weird lyrical thing.
Speaker 1: I was also going to say, it's been too long
Speaker 1: in Denver earlier, it's been on my mind everything. Els Ben. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's talk about some u a p debunking material. Uh
Speaker 1: listener Amanda Price, I think other listeners had shared this
Speaker 1: podcast with us. Amanda shared the time code that included
Speaker 1: the relevant interview shout out to the lazy and disorganized. Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you, I need it, uh and if you could
Speaker 1: actually start the video for me that the second here.
Speaker 1: But so, I think they just did a really good
Speaker 1: job of presenting the information that skeptics are trying to
Speaker 1: get across. So the videos that they're particularly debunking are
Speaker 1: the tic tac videos, like the one where the people
Speaker 1: are like whoa, like we locked onto it, we got it,
Speaker 1: And the person do the debunking is a former video
Speaker 1: game programmer who therefore has tons of experience doing three
Speaker 1: D modeling and like so has a really good sense
Speaker 1: of like perspective and like what something would look like.
Speaker 1: And he points out that like broadly, for the same
Speaker 1: reason that Biden Jimmy Carter picture looked so wild. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: just like perspective and lens distortion, that the tic TACs
Speaker 1: only look like they're moving extremely fast. And he said
Speaker 1: that like if you look at so, if you look
Speaker 1: at all of the information that's like contained in the video,
Speaker 1: it is actually probably way up in the sky. The
Speaker 1: actual tic TAC is way up in the sky, looks
Speaker 1: like it's speeding over the water. But and I think
Speaker 1: I got this right, but I'm he I think he's
Speaker 1: saying that the horizon of the water is actually in
Speaker 1: the foreground and the tic TAC is like beyond it,
Speaker 1: and so as it's moving slowly, it looks like it's
Speaker 1: speeding over the water, and it's it's not. It's just moving.
Speaker 1: So what is it's seeing? Then he's basically saying that
Speaker 1: it's moving the speed of like when you look at
Speaker 1: how high up it is, that's how fast the wind
Speaker 1: moves at that level, like with this perspective shift. And
Speaker 1: he also said it's because it's a black white infrared
Speaker 1: targeting camera and this it's on a black hot setting
Speaker 1: that the fact that it's white just means that it's
Speaker 1: extremely cold. And so he's saying that it's probably and
Speaker 1: this is like the standard answer for all U A
Speaker 1: p S or UFOs weather balloom, but like that that
Speaker 1: makes sense. It's big enough to like see at a
Speaker 1: distance to like create weird perspective distortion, and it would
Speaker 1: kind of look like a tic TAC at that distance,
Speaker 1: and the reason that it's like kind of fucking with
Speaker 1: everybody who looks at it is because the we're looking
Speaker 1: at it through a camera that is extremely classified that
Speaker 1: you've never seen anything through. It's like a targeting I
Speaker 1: think it's made by Raytheon and it's like a targeting
Speaker 1: camera that is super powerful, and we don't typically see
Speaker 1: video from those targeting cameras, so it's just like not
Speaker 1: something we're used to looking at. So I, you know,
Speaker 1: he he definitely presents a compelling case. And so my
Speaker 1: thing is that the tic TAC has never been the
Speaker 1: most compelling like thing for me. It's more the eyewitness
Speaker 1: testimony of that fighter pilot and the two fighter pilots
Speaker 1: who are in the same plane, and for that, their
Speaker 1: explanation just seems to be like there are people who
Speaker 1: believe in UFOs who work in the military and like
Speaker 1: are lying basically, and that's so we got all these
Speaker 1: boring asks that we was boring as jets and propulsion systems,
Speaker 1: and yeah, exactly. I did an episode of a podcast
Speaker 1: with Jason Pargeon recently from the executive editor from back
Speaker 1: when I was at Cracked, and he's he's both interested
Speaker 1: in like paranormal stuff but also like fully skeptical. So
Speaker 1: I was I've been like, oh, we gotta get you
Speaker 1: on to like talk about the tic TACs, And first
Speaker 1: of all, I didn't know what I was talking about,
Speaker 1: but then when I further explained, he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that story is so annoying. Just because like someone knows
Speaker 1: how to fly a plane doesn't mean they're not completely
Speaker 1: full of ship, which I was like, huh, I guess
Speaker 1: I can. Like he's basically saying like they're there are
Speaker 1: people in the Pentagon and in the Air Force who
Speaker 1: just are lying who wants lying? So that's the thing
Speaker 1: that don't don't lie. So that's the one thing that
Speaker 1: we can kind of point to. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I still I don't think this like fully debunked it.
Speaker 1: I just think it in terms of the tic TAC videos,
Speaker 1: I think it is a plausible explanation. Mhm. Definitely brings
Speaker 1: my enthusiasm down a little bit. But I'm also like,
Speaker 1: all always, you know, I always believe the truth is
Speaker 1: out there, so that's just me. Yeah. So the thing
Speaker 1: that I kind of objected to about the this podcast
Speaker 1: called like the Skeptic Podcast or something Uh, they dismiss
Speaker 1: the people who like think this stuff is interesting as
Speaker 1: just being people who like want to have some inside
Speaker 1: information and like seems smart and I don't. I think
Speaker 1: that's like not giving it enough credence. Like I think
Speaker 1: that's that's how That's what I used to say when
Speaker 1: I was just like assuming that like we know everything
Speaker 1: there is to know, and uh, anything else is stupid
Speaker 1: and people need to shut up. Like I feel like
Speaker 1: it's just too dismissive. And I'm always interest interested in
Speaker 1: people who actively want aliens to exist, like what why,
Speaker 1: Like I need it. I need it passionately. I have
Speaker 1: the perspective of, like I'm always open to acknowledging that
Speaker 1: there's things we just don't know just in general, is
Speaker 1: like a human being, like that's try to have that
Speaker 1: mindset to be open to like learning things and not
Speaker 1: be so like that they're absolutes in terms of like
Speaker 1: what we can or can't know and so yeah, so
Speaker 1: I think in those instances, I'm like, oh, ship maybe,
Speaker 1: but I'm definitely not like come on, like I cashed
Speaker 1: out my proh one k and I'm going you a
Speaker 1: B hunting or you a B hunting or whatever. You
Speaker 1: a p hunting Alabama, Birmingham, Yeah, you a be hunting exactly.
Speaker 1: I think it. I like there's a spiritual aspect to
Speaker 1: my wanting to believe in it like the same. I
Speaker 1: think it's akin to people wanting to believe in gods
Speaker 1: are higher powers. Okay, so your religion is UFOs, is
Speaker 1: what you're saying. I'm not saying that's my religion, saying
Speaker 1: that I think there is like and it's also we
Speaker 1: saw a lot of the really interest and belief in
Speaker 1: UFOs like going up as people became i think less
Speaker 1: religious and went to church less and less. Like it
Speaker 1: just creates a like big vast framework for the universe.
Speaker 1: And like I could see a version where, you know,
Speaker 1: if they are friendly aliens who are just deciding not
Speaker 1: to kill us, which it seems like they could if
Speaker 1: they had this technology, then we are on a progressive
Speaker 1: path towards you want just to believe in the universe.
Speaker 1: I want to believe in the Star Trek version of
Speaker 1: the the universe where they're just like they're not quite
Speaker 1: there yet, but like once they stopped killing each other,
Speaker 1: then we can let them into the class. If we're
Speaker 1: just on a germ rock. That's utter relief. Fucked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is big news. I didn't know Jack was part
Speaker 1: of the alien Church, and it's I mean, I think
Speaker 1: it's time for you to do my podcasts. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: just want there to be something more than this daily sludge. Like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I'm psychoanalyzing, like why I'm open to it, I
Speaker 1: think that's probably at least part of it, your openness
Speaker 1: rather than your strict But you're not saying it's a
Speaker 1: strict belief. Yeah, it's definitely not my strict belief. And
Speaker 1: I yeah, I just think it's interesting, and I think
Speaker 1: it's like I used to dismiss it because of a
Speaker 1: assumption that like we knew everything there was to know,
Speaker 1: and I just don't think that's true. Oh no, that
Speaker 1: can't be true. I mean we're very dumb as a
Speaker 1: species exactly. Yeah, And I think, yeah, but that as
Speaker 1: the foundation. Then you're like, if that's true, then many
Speaker 1: other things are possible if we're dumb as fucked on
Speaker 1: this planet, right right? Well, Amy, it's been such a pleasure,
Speaker 1: haven't you on the daily zeitgeist where people posures all
Speaker 1: mine folks, where can people find you and follow you?
Speaker 1: And also see you live. Oh yeah, go to Amy
Speaker 1: Miller Comedy dot com. I'm going to be in San
Speaker 1: Diego up tonight. I think Friday night. This is coming
Speaker 1: out Yeah tonight. Um. I'm doing a tour with Johnny
Speaker 1: Pemberton for most of July, so we're gonna go yeah
Speaker 1: to SF in Portland and Seattle and Vegas and all
Speaker 1: kinds of places. Just go to my website and check
Speaker 1: it out and follow me on Instagram at Emay Miller
Speaker 1: Comedy and what's and what star system is that? Okay, asshole,
Speaker 1: I'm in the same boat. I just think I think
Speaker 1: people are starting to conflate your openness with being like
Speaker 1: Jack fucking thinks aliens are like in his yard. Did
Speaker 1: you see that his medium post about forget the VS Collective,
Speaker 1: We're the hot aliens I wanted to get Yo, And
Speaker 1: aliens are invited to my shows as well. Just buy
Speaker 1: a ticket. Okay, I was sneaking in the back door,
Speaker 1: you sneaky. Please don't watch the sky. People think ALF
Speaker 1: stands for alien life form. It's actually aliens. I'd like
Speaker 1: to fuck ulf Helff. Shopped posters make so much sense, now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is a tweet or some of the work of
Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying. Oh well, it's unfortunately a
Speaker 1: visual one, so you will have to go to my
Speaker 1: Twitter to find it. Yeah. So there's this picture of
Speaker 1: a tree that got hit by lightning and so all
Speaker 1: of it's like veins were exposed and it looks like
Speaker 1: red noodles kind of in Kai Choice, who's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite follows. You gotta follow Kay so so funny.
Speaker 1: Um just says chef boyar tree and that made me
Speaker 1: laugh because it does look exactly like spaghetti as Yeah,
Speaker 1: k I C h O y c E. Very very funny,
Speaker 1: very funny. Twitter miles where can people find you? What's
Speaker 1: a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter? Instagram miles of gray
Speaker 1: in the Milky Way galaxy on planet Earth, northern hemisphere
Speaker 1: around thirty three degrees in the Los Angeles area. Um.
Speaker 1: Also my other podcast Fiance. If you want to talk
Speaker 1: ninety day Fiance, come check that out. Not not not
Speaker 1: that you'll talk about it. If you want to hear
Speaker 1: me talk to you about it, that's where you go.
Speaker 1: Some tweets I like, first one is from at man
Speaker 1: katon k A t t A n. This is just
Speaker 1: a little reference to the postseason of basketball. It says
Speaker 1: Ben Ms is a free throw and the crowd goes
Speaker 1: on like it's an episode of Full House, and that
Speaker 1: just was I felt that it's just can't escape this game.
Speaker 1: I cannot escape this game. It's yeah, you'll be happy
Speaker 1: to know that I did actually watch this one did
Speaker 1: and the off yet, Oh my god, I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: start wearing the hat too. For new listeners and amy,
Speaker 1: I have a hat that I stopped wearing because I
Speaker 1: thought it cursed the seventies sixers. But they are irrevocably
Speaker 1: thoroughly cursed. Based on some there's this proximity to like
Speaker 1: the the perceived divine power we would have as sports
Speaker 1: fans through like our own singular actions affecting an entire
Speaker 1: sports team, like does feel like we don't. We're also
Speaker 1: very open to like alien life. It's like, well, I'm omnipotent.
Speaker 1: Also based on my hat used No, it's so stupid,
Speaker 1: It's no, I love it. I mean, I'm the same
Speaker 1: with the guilt that I had about yelling at the
Speaker 1: Suns after I'm like, that's that's why we lost, because
Speaker 1: I went to I went too hard on them after
Speaker 1: the game. And another one is from It's making Graves tweeting,
Speaker 1: I need someone to film and only fans bide with me.
Speaker 1: You pretend to be a mover helping me get my
Speaker 1: things from one apartment to the other. I were a
Speaker 1: tiny soundress and you don't touch me, you just move
Speaker 1: my things. This does not pay. That's a good idea,
Speaker 1: it's solid. And so many people were like, where you located,
Speaker 1: I'd be down to shoot this video. I'm down, Legit replies,
Speaker 1: Let's see some tweets. Josh Dondleman tweeted, the human body
Speaker 1: is incredible. If I were designing a person, there's no
Speaker 1: way I would have thought to put a pancreas in there.
Speaker 1: I would have thrown in a fish tank or something
Speaker 1: like exhibit. Matt Leap tweeted, I'm more of a limb.
Speaker 1: Manuel Samantha and I also liked the bend the free
Speaker 1: throam tweet. Then Eric ray Hill tweeted, whoever invented the
Speaker 1: violin is a legend. It sounds so good. It just
Speaker 1: sounds good, beautiful. You can find me on Twitter at
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Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode, as well as the song
Speaker 1: we think you might enjoy checking out, Miles, what songs
Speaker 1: should they go check out? You know, going into this
Speaker 1: Juneteenth weekend, Let's do this track from San Soucis s
Speaker 1: A n S space s O U c I S.
Speaker 1: She is an artist from England and this like track
Speaker 1: is like very Bobby mcfarrenny because it's a lot of
Speaker 1: layered vocal parts and harmony with each other, but like
Speaker 1: with really nice production underneath, so it makes for a
Speaker 1: very soothing, easy listening. Also, I thought at first this
Speaker 1: person was named after a bar on Harson's Island in
Speaker 1: Michigan's called Stan Susy, but that's a different thing completely,
Speaker 1: so I messed that up. But anyway, check this track out.
Speaker 1: I'm on I would love it if people went to
Speaker 1: check it out. And it was just a really straightforward
Speaker 1: college acapella group crack and I'm on one whoa, I'm
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