Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, Episode four
Speaker 1: of Dally's Like Guys. The production by Heart Radio. This
Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
Speaker 1: America's share consciousness. It is Thursday, March eleven, a happy
Speaker 1: Hanks Gobert day to you all. Three eleven day, Uh,
Speaker 1: the day that shall live on an infamy when we
Speaker 1: found out that we as a world had covid um
Speaker 1: and everything shut down. My name is Jack O'Brien, a
Speaker 1: k key lime juice Graham cracker who excited excite old
Speaker 1: Jack here condensed milk, some egg yolks. Come on. This
Speaker 1: is no joke, marangue or some whip cream mis This
Speaker 1: is my dream. Oh, I wanna eat me up some
Speaker 1: key lime pie. That's what I wanna try. Get me
Speaker 1: some key fine pie that is courtesy Dick Abs, true soul.
Speaker 1: And I am thrilled to be joined as always by
Speaker 1: my co host, Mr Miles Gray Miles Gray, which is
Speaker 1: dar a Miles Gray and you smoke too. But because
Speaker 1: you hit the dad brick all day, you can rely
Speaker 1: on a ditsy honey. You can rely on a ditsy honey. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you for to Hank Skypio Skipio however you want
Speaker 1: to put that down. But I love a good little
Speaker 1: Hall and Oates. It's totally one of my favorite vocal
Speaker 1: performances of years. I was those beautiful. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: something about when you when you have to become Darryl Hall,
Speaker 1: it brings something out of you. And I've I've I
Speaker 1: mean I have stories about this, what things I've done
Speaker 1: at Hall and Oates shows. Yeah, I've gone out of body.
Speaker 1: And it's been like the youngest person where people were
Speaker 1: like circling around be like, go off, young man, sing
Speaker 1: this ship, saying I can't go for that with all
Speaker 1: the movements. Wait, you were singing like so loud at
Speaker 1: a concert. This is outside Lands that music festival up
Speaker 1: in the Golden Gate Park. I dude, I was so
Speaker 1: drunk but so stoked to see Holland Oates and I
Speaker 1: was dragging my friends like we're gonna going with something
Speaker 1: like I'm going to Holland notes and I'm in tears
Speaker 1: like singing and it was just a whole vibe and
Speaker 1: shout out to Darryl Hall or that sounds like a
Speaker 1: whole last vibe. It is. It's and entire vibration. As
Speaker 1: we say in the scientific community, there's a elderly gentleman
Speaker 1: who uh is always sort of taking over at least
Speaker 1: my experiences of concerts at the Hollywood Bowl. Uh. He
Speaker 1: has like he just like does this weird interpretive dance
Speaker 1: right next to the stage the whole time. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I always admire that somebody who's willing to
Speaker 1: just make the concert their own. Hey, Miles, we are fortunate,
Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined by the brilliant, the talented, the
Speaker 1: hilarious Caitlin Duranto. Ow, it's me and you know that
Speaker 1: I would not come on this show if I didn't
Speaker 1: have another anagram of my name. I'm not ready so
Speaker 1: this Jack, this also comes from at As. I don't
Speaker 1: think i've I've shared this one before. So brace yourself
Speaker 1: for Caitlin Durante anagramming two alien tain't crud Alien tint crud.
Speaker 1: They're so evocative names. Your name is like it's like
Speaker 1: like lost or something like we. I can't explain this
Speaker 1: collection of letters and the powers that it has to
Speaker 1: be so malleable. Well, um, official dickhead who who came
Speaker 1: up with this shared a whole slew of these. Let
Speaker 1: me let me open up my doc because I have
Speaker 1: an anagram's Google doc. Of course, um runic tit and
Speaker 1: ale unclean arid tit, annual tit, cider, uncle, tain't raid nail.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, uncle Uncle, that sounds like a John Corn.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Uncle opening for Uncle Chris cold uncle
Speaker 1: tain't raid and then he gives you a little grab. Wait,
Speaker 1: there's more nail, nail, crude, taint, lauren, taint acne you're
Speaker 1: in clad taint remember taint. I feel like that was
Speaker 1: one of the last ones I remember. Um lunar taint, dice,
Speaker 1: alien taint, tread on, plain tit raid and an iced
Speaker 1: lunar tit so and then um as also said, yes,
Speaker 1: they all seem to be about taints, tits, and urine.
Speaker 1: I mean, the holy trinity of things that a name
Speaker 1: can antagram to lunar tit um. It's unbelievable, how how
Speaker 1: many um just dirty thing, dirty and evocative things your
Speaker 1: name anagrams to, of course, Dracula being nine Dracula. That's
Speaker 1: one of my Latin answer t I and nine pit Dracula.
Speaker 1: I think I think we have not a new like
Speaker 1: nothing's ever gonna defeat those, but the we might have
Speaker 1: a couple of new entries in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Um Jesus, what's uh ho ship even the wild things
Speaker 1: like they'd be really interesting. Abstract art piece is like
Speaker 1: the price pieces called lunar tit dice, And what I
Speaker 1: did here was sort of playing with the female memory
Speaker 1: glands along with the gaming cubes of dice in a
Speaker 1: moon context. That's that was the inspiration for this. So basically,
Speaker 1: so all any any visual artists out there, you have
Speaker 1: all these wonderful names for pieces, and I expect or
Speaker 1: it's it's aliens on the moon playing celo like throwing dice,
Speaker 1: but the dice are tits. Oh you mean the aliens
Speaker 1: that have tank crewd Yeah, the ones that are have
Speaker 1: credit old tape, Yeah, and they're playing for tank crud.
Speaker 1: So this is all This is like a Norman Rockwell
Speaker 1: piece is making itself possible right now. Alright, Caitlin, we're
Speaker 1: going to get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 1: in a moment um, but first we're going to tell
Speaker 1: our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. It
Speaker 1: is the one year anniversary of the world shutting down,
Speaker 1: So uh, I just went back through, looked at some
Speaker 1: emails that were sent on that day, listened to the
Speaker 1: episode we dropped on that day, just to put myself
Speaker 1: back in that mind frame. I'm wearing jeans in honor
Speaker 1: of the before times. Oh no, jeans are violence. Jeans
Speaker 1: are violence, they are. But I mean it's the same
Speaker 1: as like people dressing up an old timing clothes to honor.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess, so, yeah, it's a recreate.
Speaker 1: It's a historical recreation that what we do from now
Speaker 1: and like everyone dresses like a slob, it's like a
Speaker 1: man's three eleven, put on your what you used to
Speaker 1: wear in public in your sweatsuits. Um. So we'll talk
Speaker 1: about that. We'll talk about how Donald Trump might just
Speaker 1: get hit with the RICO. Uh. We'll talk about a
Speaker 1: new article that says modern America uh might be replacing
Speaker 1: God with politics, might be a replacing religion with politics,
Speaker 1: and just that being kind of an interest resting framework
Speaker 1: to view the modern, our modern condition through. Uh. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about COVID relief. We'll talk about Elizabeth Banks's new
Speaker 1: movie which is called is this an anagram for something?
Speaker 1: It's called cocaine bear. Yeah, all right, we'll talk about that,
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Avatar heading back to movie theaters in China,
Speaker 1: all of that, plenty more. But first, Caitlin, we like
Speaker 1: to ask our guest, what is something from your search
Speaker 1: history that is revealing about who you are or what
Speaker 1: you're up to. Just googled tubal ligation recovery because I
Speaker 1: am next week having my tubes tied. Please and thank you,
Speaker 1: please and thank you. So kids are off the table. Huh,
Speaker 1: kids are off the table. Yes, every medical professional that
Speaker 1: I've talked to about this, I was like, hey, I
Speaker 1: would like I don't want children. They're like, oh, what
Speaker 1: have you seen the world? It's awesome right now. You
Speaker 1: don't want to bring someone into this. Or they assume
Speaker 1: that I've already had children, so they're like, oh, how
Speaker 1: many children do you already have? And I'm like zero
Speaker 1: and they're like, I'm sorry you what did you did
Speaker 1: you mean to? And do you mean how much money
Speaker 1: you have as a result of having kids? So um,
Speaker 1: and I mean I get these responses from you know,
Speaker 1: non medical people as well, but um, yeah, I I
Speaker 1: am childless and I will be childless from here on
Speaker 1: out thanks to my tubes getting all tied up. What's
Speaker 1: the so what is the recovery like? Is it a
Speaker 1: pretty sort of severe procedure or not too bad? No,
Speaker 1: it's Um, it's I'm pretty sure outpatient. So I'll be
Speaker 1: able to go home the same day. I think I'll
Speaker 1: just like have some I can't like lift heavy boxes
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks after and what you can
Speaker 1: do then? What do you can do with your time?
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's pretty it's minimally invasive. I think
Speaker 1: it's it's a pretty easy recovery, but I didn't totally
Speaker 1: know until I googled it. What was your sort of
Speaker 1: path too? Because I'm sure you know, thinking of like
Speaker 1: our own like our mortality and that like evolutionary itch
Speaker 1: that some most humans have to procreate. What was your
Speaker 1: path to? Yeah? So I've known since I was a
Speaker 1: child that I did not want to have children, um,
Speaker 1: which is again very people. But you have a uterus?
Speaker 1: Don't you want to use it? Uh? And no, thanks,
Speaker 1: I really don't. In fact, I'd like to get rid
Speaker 1: of it entirely, but couldn't figure out a way or like, no,
Speaker 1: surgeons won't be like, yeah, I have a hysterectomy a
Speaker 1: propelled of nothing. Um so, so the next best thing
Speaker 1: basically was to get um my tubes tied. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I've always known that I don't want to
Speaker 1: be a parent, and I you know, I was like
Speaker 1: on birth control for a long time, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I just like want to be
Speaker 1: on because I mean, not to get into some gory
Speaker 1: family history or anything like that, but um my mom
Speaker 1: was on birth control like in her forties and it
Speaker 1: gave her a blood clot in her leg. So I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to, like from like adolescents
Speaker 1: to like into my like forties or whatever be on
Speaker 1: like hormonal birth control. So I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's just chop chop me up down there, just up.
Speaker 1: Just by the way you're expressing this, I may say
Speaker 1: you're not the best candidate for this person. Just uh
Speaker 1: just damn it up. Huh. Well, good, I mean good
Speaker 1: for you. I'm just must feel good to take that
Speaker 1: power into your hands and and be able to finally
Speaker 1: have that decision and feel liberated from like having to
Speaker 1: you know, have other forms of birth control and ship.
Speaker 1: It feels so good, especially because I mean I've been
Speaker 1: exploring this for several years, and every doctor I talked
Speaker 1: to they're like, well, you won't find a surgeon if
Speaker 1: you don't already have children. You won't find a surgeon
Speaker 1: who will do this procedure unless until you're like thirty five.
Speaker 1: I guess who's about to turn thirty five? People know
Speaker 1: about the turning twenty six being able to rent a car.
Speaker 1: Very few people know that doctors won't give you autonomy
Speaker 1: over your own body until you turn thirty five. What
Speaker 1: what's even the reason, Like you're at risk for being younger,
Speaker 1: and they're like, but you you'll regret it, probably it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. It's literally the patriarchy. They just assume that
Speaker 1: if if you have a uterus, you're going then you're
Speaker 1: a baby making factory and that's your only life goal.
Speaker 1: Um so yeah, there's no The only legality is that
Speaker 1: you have to be I think eighteen or older and
Speaker 1: of sound mind, and um that's like those are the
Speaker 1: legal stipulations, but not so many doctors don't follow that
Speaker 1: and they say, well, you're going to change your mind,
Speaker 1: or you just haven't met the right man yet, or
Speaker 1: like any number of like really like heteronormative, and I'm
Speaker 1: sorry you'd even like deal with that when you're trying
Speaker 1: to make a real decision on your own behalf and
Speaker 1: they're like, well, let me just throw this bullshit that
Speaker 1: you you've considered this and don't give a funk about
Speaker 1: Therefore you're here, but just in case, you know, Prince
Speaker 1: Charming will come along and then I can't wait for
Speaker 1: like the day after my surgery to meet my Prince
Speaker 1: Charming and then oh my, oh no, I'm going to
Speaker 1: change my mind. You gotta romcom to right. Oh yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Called all tied up, and it has so many meanings
Speaker 1: because I'm like tied up romantically, right, But you're also
Speaker 1: because you're not tethered to birth control, you're not tethered
Speaker 1: to the expectation of motherhood. I mean, it's it's I mean, guys,
Speaker 1: that's why I leave it to you, someone with a
Speaker 1: master's in screenwriting. Yeah. I was just gonna say, if
Speaker 1: only we had somebody who was a master's a master
Speaker 1: of screenwriting. I didn't want to be the one to
Speaker 1: bring it up because I hate to mention it. Of course, right,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? Okay? I think
Speaker 1: that frosting, icing, whipped cream, basically anything that you might
Speaker 1: put on like a cupcake or any really any dessert
Speaker 1: of any kind. I hate it. I think it's it's wow,
Speaker 1: we're having some back to back dessert takes on this show.
Speaker 1: Yesterday pie was a lie. Today icing is all tridash apparently,
Speaker 1: so you like it? So you just want straight up cake.
Speaker 1: If you're having a cake, I want like the tiniest layer,
Speaker 1: Like I'm talking a millimeter layer put on like a
Speaker 1: razor ing exactly. Someone will give me a cupcake that
Speaker 1: has more like taller icing, So I just scrape all
Speaker 1: of that off and then whatever is like leftover is
Speaker 1: what I deem tolerable, fantastic. I'm whipped cream, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: whip Wow, you don't wait. Whipped cream is disgusting. I
Speaker 1: hate it. Yeah, I mean it must be a consistency
Speaker 1: thing because whipped cream is like less sweet than Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's like they're all different flavors, right, I mean
Speaker 1: they're all I guess sugar, but it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: whipped like sugar. I don't, but I like sugar. I
Speaker 1: like sweets and pans, but I like straight sugar with
Speaker 1: a spoon. Do you eat ice cream? Are you a
Speaker 1: fan of ice cream? Yes? I love ice cream? Okay,
Speaker 1: but no, but you would never deign to put whipped
Speaker 1: cream on that disgusting Yeah, it would ruin the whole
Speaker 1: thing for me. I will take all your icing. The
Speaker 1: next time we're around each other and needing cupcakes, you
Speaker 1: just give me the icing. I'll double it up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then your wife's gonna be like, stop giving Jack ice
Speaker 1: icing or whatever the funk you guys are doing when
Speaker 1: he's out of the house. What is happening is all
Speaker 1: his teeth are loose. Oh man, I love icing. A
Speaker 1: little icing bucket you like, yeah, the side of your bed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: most people don't notice, but I just like occasionally reach
Speaker 1: out of the zoom and pull in a handful of icing.
Speaker 1: We noticed your face is pink and blue. You do,
Speaker 1: but the listeners don't aren't aware? Um right, and our
Speaker 1: guests have to be uncomfortable and polite throughout that we
Speaker 1: have just signed an n d A. I'm texting them
Speaker 1: on the side. Please just ignore this. If if you
Speaker 1: bring it up, it's going to derail the entire show.
Speaker 1: So let's just keep this moving. I'm not comfortable unless
Speaker 1: my lips are crystalline with Amazon, which is something I noticed. Caitlin,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is underrated? I think that
Speaker 1: fake house plants are underrated and good. They're right, they're
Speaker 1: getting good and as much as I I mean, I
Speaker 1: think the real house plants are also underrated. But I
Speaker 1: which one the real house plants of Orange County or
Speaker 1: real house plants? One of us was going to make
Speaker 1: that jo I prefer Atlanta. I think we all do.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's she's a legend. Yeah, I um, I
Speaker 1: am not able to keep real house plants alive. So
Speaker 1: people like a little bit like fake house plants are
Speaker 1: TACKI they look like ship, but they look better than
Speaker 1: the dead real ones. I've encountered three fake plants like
Speaker 1: recently that I've just like been in a building or
Speaker 1: like just stopping by someone's house to grab something and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, damn that fucking monsters that ship look good.
Speaker 1: They're like it's fake or like other ones I've like
Speaker 1: brushed up against and I'm like, oh, this is beautiful
Speaker 1: and it's fake. So I'm getting fooled on the regular
Speaker 1: by these plants. Like they look they have the waxy sheen.
Speaker 1: It's just when you don't dust them. That's when I
Speaker 1: think we'll figure out. Sometimes you dusty, ask when you rely, No, no,
Speaker 1: this isn't at it. Yeah, you need the gloss. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're Yeah, they're getting really good. Even if you
Speaker 1: can keep your house plants alive. Like there's it. We
Speaker 1: have one, uh where we mix and match. We have
Speaker 1: some living ones so we can use those as cover
Speaker 1: for the ones that are fake. But we have one
Speaker 1: that is just making the floor like within a six
Speaker 1: degree or a six foot radius just incredibly sticky and
Speaker 1: like I can't figure out why it's just the floor
Speaker 1: around that, but but it's like it must be like
Speaker 1: missing out because it's not like noticeable. This is a
Speaker 1: real one. But it's like I'm just saying one of
Speaker 1: the one of the hazards of real plants is that
Speaker 1: when you said you were getting to grow real big
Speaker 1: because you're watering it with maple syrup. Yeah, is that?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Jack, I would taste the floor next time, Jack,
Speaker 1: stop feeding icing to look how big it can't be stopped? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that? Gang? Let us know if what's jack? For
Speaker 1: your photo for the episode, take a photo of the
Speaker 1: plant so people can so is that gag can clock
Speaker 1: in and say what the fun is going on with
Speaker 1: the vapor sap that's coming out of there? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: there's just like there's socks stuck to that part of
Speaker 1: the floor. Our kid was stuck there the other day,
Speaker 1: kids school because we couldn't get them and pry them
Speaker 1: off the floorboards. Caitlin, how many fake? How many do
Speaker 1: you have a lot of fake plans right now? Or
Speaker 1: is it something you like you're admiring from a far
Speaker 1: and you're like, I think I want to get in. Well,
Speaker 1: like I just got my first one recently because I
Speaker 1: had held off for so long because I just felt
Speaker 1: so much shame around buying fake plans because people will
Speaker 1: make you feel so ashamed and I don't know why,
Speaker 1: I just I should have just whatever. Anyway, So I
Speaker 1: got my first one, I was like, Oh, this looks
Speaker 1: this is good. I'm gonna so now I'm I'm going
Speaker 1: to continue to go find Yeah, but like, yeah, your
Speaker 1: your house just most like polyvinyl because it's too many
Speaker 1: fake like it's a very plastic alright, uh, Caitlin, that
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for letting us get to know
Speaker 1: you better. We are going to take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll come back and talk about the news and
Speaker 1: we're back, and yeah, it's it's March eleventh, one year,
Speaker 1: one year on from I think it was the day
Speaker 1: that a lot of people were like, Okay, the our
Speaker 1: lives are going to be fairly different for the foreseeable future. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that was the day that I went to
Speaker 1: the grocery store and bought like everything I could find,
Speaker 1: things that I never even bought before, but I was like,
Speaker 1: this isn't a can, so I'm gonna need it, right Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like it was just the chaos the store and
Speaker 1: just every Yeah, everyone was just like kind of in
Speaker 1: panic mode because no one knew what to expect. It was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was surreal too, because I remember prior to that,
Speaker 1: we in the studio, we were like getting all this
Speaker 1: stuff for the studio, Like there was wipes everywhere. We're
Speaker 1: wiping everything down and trying to make the surfaces as
Speaker 1: clean as possible. And but it was almost the second
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, we're gonna have to like shut
Speaker 1: everything down. It was a weird moment where I was
Speaker 1: like half ready for it, but then it was sort
Speaker 1: of surreal. Like how immediately I was like, Okay, now
Speaker 1: we're in survival mode and like these are things we
Speaker 1: have to do. But then like in the process of it,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is this is this is happening
Speaker 1: right now, Like this is this We're in the midst
Speaker 1: of it. I was listening back to the episode that
Speaker 1: dropped on March eleventh last year through eleven day last year,
Speaker 1: and like we opened up and I'm like, yeah, it's weird,
Speaker 1: like people are worried about the mic covers and like
Speaker 1: coming in and just talking into a mic cover that's
Speaker 1: like drenched with someone else's like breath, right, And I
Speaker 1: was like talking about how I like sometimes find myself
Speaker 1: touching my mouth against the mic cover. Is just like
Speaker 1: a totally different, disgusting reality that I at least I
Speaker 1: was operating with him. Right, We're still emailing about like
Speaker 1: all right, so we'll we'll meet on Thursday in person.
Speaker 1: It's it's wild, man, Yeah, how quickly things uh change,
Speaker 1: is just like our understanding, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like how it was kind of like all right, we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens two weeks and we'll flatten the curve, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh man? And then that was, of course the day
Speaker 1: that we found out Tom Hanks tested positive and that
Speaker 1: a Utah Jazz Oklahoma City Thunder game was like about
Speaker 1: to start, and then all the players like left the
Speaker 1: court and they announced over the lad speaker that the
Speaker 1: game was going to be uh postponed, And it was
Speaker 1: like a full stadium of people, and it was like,
Speaker 1: this is not safe, this is never going to happen again.
Speaker 1: Was that the day? Also, I think Disneyland closed. It
Speaker 1: was like within one or two days of that. Also, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, that was depending on where you were culturally,
Speaker 1: something happened that made it real for you. Tom Hanks
Speaker 1: got it, That made it real for some people. The
Speaker 1: NBA shutting down made it real for other people. Disneyland
Speaker 1: shutting down and has definitely made it real for some people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now it's I'm almost suspicious about how exactly to like,
Speaker 1: you know how sometimes you'll be like I had a
Speaker 1: twenty four hour bug and it was like almost like
Speaker 1: the timer went off at twenty four hours, and like
Speaker 1: you felt better. It almost feels like that's happening with
Speaker 1: the pandemic, or like we're trying to make that happen
Speaker 1: with the pandemic that it's like on the one year anniversary.
Speaker 1: Like one of my friends who's like a big sports fan,
Speaker 1: was just like, I just heard that they're going to
Speaker 1: be opening with like forty thou people in sports stadiums
Speaker 1: within four weeks for like Major League Baseball, which is
Speaker 1: you know, it seems very significant and like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable doing that, but uh, what is it? CDC know,
Speaker 1: you know, what the hell do they know? I trust?
Speaker 1: I just think like how the evolution of like how
Speaker 1: we were even protecting ourselves like sort of emotionally psychologically
Speaker 1: from an oncoming pandemic was like, oh, man, like who
Speaker 1: knows like it could be cool? And then like how
Speaker 1: that's slowly sort of like withered away, and we're like,
Speaker 1: this is so fucked up, Like nothing of substances coming
Speaker 1: from the government in terms of like support and where
Speaker 1: people are being fed. This completely backwards narrative of that
Speaker 1: businesses need to open rather than the government needs to
Speaker 1: support people through this pandemic. And yeah, and now we're
Speaker 1: here still talking on zoom mm hmm. But yeah, the
Speaker 1: NBA thing made it real for me. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I don't know why well it's what Yeah, because that
Speaker 1: was one thing that I feel like I had in
Speaker 1: the back of my mind that like, well, there's all
Speaker 1: these people in stadiums together, Like that's one of those
Speaker 1: things that you just see just you know, on you
Speaker 1: can't help but see it on TV, like if if
Speaker 1: you're just walking by a TV there's like stadium is
Speaker 1: full of people crowded in together, and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: it can't be like that, like if that's a llab
Speaker 1: to happen and there's not like massive outbreaks. And then
Speaker 1: the fact that they were just like, oh, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is this is a terrible idea. Everybody run for your
Speaker 1: life announcement is like really, unfortunately, have to cancel today's
Speaker 1: game and get the funk out now, move calmly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That just felt very very surreal to like just see
Speaker 1: like an abrupt end to uh life as we knew
Speaker 1: it um. And then the struggle to remind people how
Speaker 1: we can't go back to just ignoring everything like before times,
Speaker 1: which seems like there's a you know, uh, pretty big
Speaker 1: movement for people to kind of get on with it
Speaker 1: and just be like, don't forget all the ab ject
Speaker 1: you know, uh strife you saw from people. It's just
Speaker 1: I mean, we got we can get people into into
Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium. Yeah, all right, let's talk about somebody who
Speaker 1: was much closer to the front of our minds back when,
Speaker 1: uh one year ago that ish the guy was the
Speaker 1: president back then, Donald Trump. Uh there's a chance that
Speaker 1: he might just get hit with the RICO. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: racketeering what is it? Racketeering? Racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have gotten that if you gave me tries um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, typically for gangsters, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like that was like the way they were able to
Speaker 1: get mobsters rounded up in other like really nefarious crimes.
Speaker 1: But so we've talked about how the d A. Fannie
Speaker 1: Willis UM in Georgia is going for the throat, you know,
Speaker 1: to the point where the UM State Senate in Georgia
Speaker 1: tried to like change the laws to be like you
Speaker 1: can't in panel a jury like in the county because
Speaker 1: it would be too uh diverse and not pro Trump enough.
Speaker 1: But they missed their opportunity for that. And now well
Speaker 1: we're finding out, like, so what's going on because clearly
Speaker 1: most of it is all kicking around that call where
Speaker 1: he's like, find me twelve votes now so I can
Speaker 1: overturn the will of the people, And that call and
Speaker 1: many other events are now like you know, factoring into
Speaker 1: this investigation. But the biggest thing we just heard is
Speaker 1: that there's this inclusion of an attorney named John Floyd
Speaker 1: to the prosecution team, and he is known as the
Speaker 1: racketeering expert. He literally wrote the guide on how to
Speaker 1: pursue state racketeering charges. And Willis, um Fannie Willis has
Speaker 1: mentioned like racketeering charges before, like in passing, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't really connecting because we're mostly thinking, like, this is
Speaker 1: election fraud, like what does racketeering have to do with it?
Speaker 1: But that's because Georgia has broader racketeering laws that basically
Speaker 1: seemed to describe everything that Trump and his little gang did.
Speaker 1: Um So they're saying, if she pursues racketeering charges, she
Speaker 1: will need to quote prove a pattern of corruption by
Speaker 1: Trump alone or with his allies aimed at overturning the
Speaker 1: election results to stay in power. And Georgia's statute defines
Speaker 1: racketeering more broadly to include false statements made to state officials.
Speaker 1: M H. So it's looking pretty pretty or rough. I mean,
Speaker 1: just to kind of give you some background, like, racketeering
Speaker 1: charges happen a lot more often in Georgia than you'd realize.
Speaker 1: And the last time like Willis and Floyd you know,
Speaker 1: collabed was six years ago when there was a school
Speaker 1: when school officials were falsifying standardized test scores to try
Speaker 1: and make the Georgia education system looking like more robust
Speaker 1: than it actually was. They got them all on racketeering charges.
Speaker 1: They get like, this duo seems to really get racketeering
Speaker 1: ship done. So I think a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: legal people were like, this is very interesting because once
Speaker 1: they proved I think like two violations within this Rico statute,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to to say otherwise. But you
Speaker 1: never know what this with this with this country, so
Speaker 1: I don't know every time. Yeah. On the other hand,
Speaker 1: Trump's defense team is probably going to be full of
Speaker 1: some cracker jack you know, lawyers like Rudy Giuliani and
Speaker 1: uh now he might be Yeah. I mean it's bad
Speaker 1: because if you think of all the people, man, it's
Speaker 1: not just him. It is Rudy, you know, it is
Speaker 1: Lady Graham, it is this, you can point to this
Speaker 1: pattern of corruption of people leaning on other officials and
Speaker 1: then of like spouting falsehoods. Yeah, I remember total landscaping
Speaker 1: four seasons. It's it's like really it's I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's comforting to be like, oh, this might be a
Speaker 1: really good uh pursuit of justice here. But then at
Speaker 1: the same time, like as I keep saying, there's like
Speaker 1: two or three legal systems depending on who you are.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, big news that came through
Speaker 1: yesterday is that the relief package was passed, and so
Speaker 1: now it is time for Republicans to figure out how
Speaker 1: to spin actual like concrete relief for people who are
Speaker 1: struggling as a bad thing. Let's see how they do
Speaker 1: Why why do this as a sport to like subjectively
Speaker 1: a thing to help people in a pandemic? So that
Speaker 1: takes are all over the place From the right. Rick
Speaker 1: Scott from Florida said, who so Jesus quote who hurts
Speaker 1: get who hurts gets hurt? I don't know what that means?
Speaker 1: Who hurts? Wait? I don't what does this sentence mean?
Speaker 1: Who who hurt? Getting gets hurt? Hurt? Poor families? Oh okay,
Speaker 1: that's very conversational and confusing. So poor families are the
Speaker 1: ones who will be funcked over by help. Apparently they're
Speaker 1: not helping poor families with this, they're hurting poor family
Speaker 1: Please point to how that works, because every study talks
Speaker 1: about how these stimulus bills will lift people out of
Speaker 1: poverty on some level. Obviously, so much more could be done.
Speaker 1: But did I say that this hurts poor people or
Speaker 1: poor families? Right? Finish your state? Like what? How? Like
Speaker 1: what this is? You can't just make a statement and
Speaker 1: then be like, but that it's true. I don't know
Speaker 1: to back at well that is that? That's the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's being a politician for the most Like, that's what
Speaker 1: I said. Don't follow up or else I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: you're harassing me. Okay. How Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy's called
Speaker 1: this uh During a debate on the bill, he said,
Speaker 1: it's a socialist laundry list of left wing priorities. Okay,
Speaker 1: helping people. M h uh huh sounds good to me.
Speaker 1: What are you saying? What are you saying? keV? Let
Speaker 1: me know? In the comments, Representative Marjorie Green described this
Speaker 1: as quote massive woke progressive Democrat wish list, and then
Speaker 1: Mitt Romney just went with all reliable, which was we
Speaker 1: shouldn't be spending any money's ever on people, So that
Speaker 1: was at least more consistent. But I don't understand like
Speaker 1: this this bill has bipartisan support of Republicans have realized
Speaker 1: that they are human beings that need help from the
Speaker 1: federal government and are supporting this bill. But even if
Speaker 1: a majority of your voters, it's like, it's just so odd.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to do. They're just so
Speaker 1: hooked on like these woke attacks and socialist attacks. Man,
Speaker 1: they get so concerned, and not just Republicans, even the
Speaker 1: mainstream media gets so concerned about spending and the federal
Speaker 1: deficit whenever a democratism power, but they do not give
Speaker 1: a fuck whenever a Republican is usually because the Republican
Speaker 1: is sucking up so many other things that that's just
Speaker 1: not a priority. And I think they also understand that,
Speaker 1: like that's not a priority for a lot of the readers,
Speaker 1: right it's like, well, that's that's not the worst thing
Speaker 1: they're doing, that's not the thing that's going to resonate
Speaker 1: with people. But with Democrats, that just it always becomes
Speaker 1: spending too much. Guys can't add to that huge deficit
Speaker 1: number because then I mean, ignore the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: But I'm working, which is the you know, the ebb
Speaker 1: and flow of their rhetoric when it comes to this stuff.
Speaker 1: But it just again, it's so weird, like when you're
Speaker 1: having to just do these really superficial attacks that are
Speaker 1: so transparently um intellectually bankrupt, like to just be like
Speaker 1: it's a laundry list of woke agenda items, okay, but
Speaker 1: you're not. No one is actually going for the substance
Speaker 1: of it, which is why I'm like, that's probably why
Speaker 1: of Republicans are on board, because this ship isn't even
Speaker 1: like appealing to them, you know what I mean, Because
Speaker 1: on some level they're like they can recognize a helping
Speaker 1: hand when it's offered, but this their attempts to try
Speaker 1: of completely be like, no, God's humanity is overrated. Come
Speaker 1: over here with the ignorant racist squad, like the I
Speaker 1: R S got you. Uh, It's I don't know, We'll see,
Speaker 1: We'll see how much longer like this happens, until like
Speaker 1: it starts getting old even for their own audience. M
Speaker 1: all right, I just read an article that introduced me
Speaker 1: to a concept that I wanted to kind of talk
Speaker 1: through with you guys. See what you guys thoughts are.
Speaker 1: So the the idea is called the law of conservation
Speaker 1: of religion. Um. There's a political theorist called Samuel Goldman
Speaker 1: who observed this as basically a law that more or
Speaker 1: less there's a constant level of religious fervor in a
Speaker 1: in any society, and it just changes like in terms
Speaker 1: of where and how it's expressed. So like there's just
Speaker 1: a you know, it makes sense from a standpoint of
Speaker 1: what when you look back at human history, like the
Speaker 1: constant throughout no matter what point in history you're looking at,
Speaker 1: there is a need for religion among people. Like it's
Speaker 1: just it's not like one person lying and uh and
Speaker 1: then like tricking everybody, And it just seems like there
Speaker 1: is an organic need for people, uh, for a certain
Speaker 1: number of people to to believe in a religion that
Speaker 1: like takes them out of the day to day and
Speaker 1: like the the real time concerns of being a human basically,
Speaker 1: so yeah, they basically this theory that this writer for
Speaker 1: The Atlantic is making the point that you can kind
Speaker 1: of view America as transferring its religious fervor from religion
Speaker 1: over to pop politics. Over the past basically, uh, he says,
Speaker 1: was the year that religious kind of commitment and belief
Speaker 1: started dropping. Uh. And now we're at a place where
Speaker 1: a lot of the same sort of ideals and practices
Speaker 1: are being practiced in the political landscape. And I feel
Speaker 1: like it wasn't right at ninety eight. I feel like
Speaker 1: there was a like techno utopian kind of fifteen years
Speaker 1: there where we were like, Okay, we're gonna like put
Speaker 1: our religious fervor into like building the separate reality where
Speaker 1: everybody's connected on the web. And then like suddenly we
Speaker 1: kind of realized that was that was not what was happening.
Speaker 1: We should have been connecting with the Holy Spirit, thank you.
Speaker 1: That's anyways, that's what that's my point is, just like,
Speaker 1: let's get back to the Holy Spirit. Uh, come on, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to log on, log on to God. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I'm really hoping once you connect with the Holy Spirit,
Speaker 1: you will rethink the procedure you're about to take. Consider
Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit and adding more Christians to this earth. Please,
Speaker 1: for the sake of Christ, for the sake of his
Speaker 1: absolutely right, my duty is to just have millions of
Speaker 1: babies to honor Christ with my uterus. Um, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean is this because now we're seeing there's a lot
Speaker 1: of reports to about how now evangelical Christianity is fusing
Speaker 1: with Q and on and how that is becoming a
Speaker 1: really dangerous combination because like in that same way, if
Speaker 1: it's religious fervor, I mean, facts don't fucking apply. You're
Speaker 1: fucking with a different energy source at that point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's he the author would kind of it
Speaker 1: and let me find his name. But the author would
Speaker 1: basically see this at that as part of this overall trend.
Speaker 1: His point is that like from ninety seven to church
Speaker 1: membership remained relatively constant at about seventy in America, which
Speaker 1: is very uncommon for like a wealthy democracy. Uh. And
Speaker 1: then over the past two decades that numbers dropped to
Speaker 1: less than fifty which is the sharpest recorded decline in
Speaker 1: American history. And meanwhile, the like atheist signostics and those
Speaker 1: claiming no religion have grown to represent a quarter of
Speaker 1: the population. And so it's not it's not like the
Speaker 1: entire society has like gone away from religion. It's just
Speaker 1: that there is now a much larger portion of the
Speaker 1: population that is looking for that thing that they can
Speaker 1: kind of sublimate themselves too and like feel relief from
Speaker 1: the day to day. And this author's perspective is basically
Speaker 1: that if this continues in this direction, we're in a
Speaker 1: bad way because politics is a terrible it's a terrible
Speaker 1: substitute for religion. Um. In the article, he points out that,
Speaker 1: like religion is about distancing yourself from the temporal world
Speaker 1: and like all the imperfection of day to day life. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it's also about like conferring final judgment and like
Speaker 1: ultimate judgment to another time, another being that like you
Speaker 1: don't have control over. And this new kind of form
Speaker 1: of religion like brings that judgment like down into like
Speaker 1: the here and now, and that's where you're getting like
Speaker 1: the Q and on where it's like our political opponents
Speaker 1: are evil and demonic demonic exactly. And he also makes
Speaker 1: the point that like some of the cancel culture things
Speaker 1: are you know, part of like he he uses wokeness
Speaker 1: in quotes a bunch and talks about like cancel culture
Speaker 1: being part of like sort of in line with like
Speaker 1: excommunication and the sort of thing that you see in
Speaker 1: religious cultures, uh, which you know, it's in the Atlantic,
Speaker 1: so it's a it's it's yeah read it with an
Speaker 1: accent exactly. Um, but I don't know. It is just
Speaker 1: an interesting way to kind of look at our current
Speaker 1: moment and a lot of the things that we're trying
Speaker 1: to explain that are that are new to our culture,
Speaker 1: like Q and on, like uh, the political violence that
Speaker 1: we're starting to see, or like celebrity worship too, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because that's another version where you're
Speaker 1: replacing like, well, fuck religion but like I'll buy everything
Speaker 1: Kempbell Jenner puts out, or kind of Jenner puts out,
Speaker 1: and sort of this lack of self awareness like hyper
Speaker 1: consumption culture to which in a way is like its
Speaker 1: own you know, religion. Um, that people are so caught
Speaker 1: up in that you can't see sort of the realities
Speaker 1: of of your world because your church is like you know,
Speaker 1: the drip and like showing out on your social media too.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's interesting to see and like I'm sure
Speaker 1: those people be like, oh, I'm not religious at all,
Speaker 1: but like I must post three times a day looking
Speaker 1: sick as fuck. Um, I mean I am not religious
Speaker 1: at all. I grew. I was like raised in a
Speaker 1: very secular atheist household, and now I've turned to Paddington's.
Speaker 1: So I like, I agree with the just I mean
Speaker 1: the general need for for humans to something like an
Speaker 1: alien for humans, for the human to understand pattying Tony
Speaker 1: in theory. I mean, my perspective on religion is that
Speaker 1: it I think just generally provides some sense of just
Speaker 1: kind of comfort and way to understand the world um
Speaker 1: around us. I feel like, well, I don't want to
Speaker 1: say too much for fear of everyone yelling at me,
Speaker 1: but I'll need I need like a day to collect
Speaker 1: my thoughts on this. But I guess so I'll just
Speaker 1: conclude by saying, um, long live Paddington. What what do
Speaker 1: you what do you take umbradge with exactly? I mean
Speaker 1: the shift from like like following a religion to I
Speaker 1: guess more following a political ideology. I don't, Yeah, I guess,
Speaker 1: but I think that has more to do with just
Speaker 1: are advanced advances in like society and culture and science
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are just They're like, well,
Speaker 1: religion isn't, like I don't I don't know anything that
Speaker 1: explains more than the Bible called science and Wikipedia. You
Speaker 1: should check this ship out. Man. The moon is something else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, I would need a whole I need
Speaker 1: to like, I need several days too. Yeah. But you're
Speaker 1: saying it's not as simple as now, because that's happening.
Speaker 1: It's just it's flowing to another thing sort of immediately. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then also, like, I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: people's political alignment is informed by their religion. So I mean, first,
Speaker 1: I mean for some people, um, obviously not everyone. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just I think this is just
Speaker 1: like I guess it's an interesting take that I don't
Speaker 1: really get. Hey, so the author, Shaddihammed, is a contributing
Speaker 1: writer at The Atlantic, as I mentioned, but he's also
Speaker 1: a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. Hey, in the building.
Speaker 1: That's like very neolibum establishment angel investor type ship. I
Speaker 1: feel like, So, I don't know, it's an interesting thought experiment. Well,
Speaker 1: I think I mean the very least we are witnessing
Speaker 1: a phenomenon at the very least of this combination melding
Speaker 1: of the two into this other thing. Or like maybe
Speaker 1: it's that's part of the American religious evolution is that naturally,
Speaker 1: you know, ei're going from people who just we're trying
Speaker 1: to have their values in their churches to now being like,
Speaker 1: we want this for all of you, because that's sort
Speaker 1: of the that's sort of what is happening, is they're
Speaker 1: using biblical law as they see it from their religion
Speaker 1: to try and put that into it, like in the
Speaker 1: laws of our country as well by just saying like
Speaker 1: oh yeah no abortion, no no, no, we're not going
Speaker 1: to do that, or other things that will feel our
Speaker 1: counter to our religion, like uh, a thing having to
Speaker 1: do with the LGBTQ community as well. Yeah, alright, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll come back and talk
Speaker 1: about Cocaine Bear, Paddington's fucked up cousin, and we're back. Uh,
Speaker 1: and alright, let's talk about Elizabeth Banks's new movie. Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Banks directed Pitch Perfect I think yeah, one of the
Speaker 1: Charlie's Angels was the latest one, right, so, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: she's also a famous actress who you would know from
Speaker 1: many A nine anybody. Yeah, the Hunger Games would be
Speaker 1: our younger listeners would probably recognize her from. But so
Speaker 1: her latest movie is called Cocaine Bear, m hm, that
Speaker 1: is that really? Like I'm I'm looking at her IMDb
Speaker 1: filmography and they might be using a different name for it.
Speaker 1: Uh really under director, Yeah, under director they've Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know, or they're just I think, no, what
Speaker 1: hasn't gone into production yet, so maybe they are um
Speaker 1: waiting to actually like fully fully announced that got it?
Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, she's got the she's got the new
Speaker 1: movie coming out. And I thought Cocaine Bear was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe this will be a hilarious comedy uh and maybe
Speaker 1: or a really ridiculous film something. It's a fucking true
Speaker 1: story about a bear that ate a bunch of cocaine
Speaker 1: in the eighties and died. So I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: so it's a short movie. But the whole thing is
Speaker 1: they say in decemb bear was walking around the Chattahoochia
Speaker 1: Coney National Forest in Georgia, minding its own business made
Speaker 1: up when it found forty plastic bags of cocaine worth
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars, ate them and then died. The medical
Speaker 1: examiner who performed an autopsy on the bear said the
Speaker 1: cause of death was cerebral hemorrhaging, respiratory failure, hyperthermia, renal failure,
Speaker 1: heart failure, stroke, you name it. The bear had it.
Speaker 1: Its stomach was quote literally packed to the brim with
Speaker 1: cocaine end quote. There wasn't a mammal on the planet
Speaker 1: who could survive that. That makes me feel so bad, said,
Speaker 1: I'm also wondering what our plot is here, right, well,
Speaker 1: a screenwriter, let me tell you what I would do.
Speaker 1: The citing incident when the coke falls on the bear's
Speaker 1: head from this guy. Um oh, I'm also seeing here that,
Speaker 1: um you, I'm looking at a Hollywood Reporter article. Universal
Speaker 1: is behind Cocaine Bear, which is based on an untitled
Speaker 1: spec script. So yeah, I think they probably just are
Speaker 1: like untitled Cocaine Bear project. But I think they should
Speaker 1: just keep the title Cocaine Bear. Why not? I mean,
Speaker 1: so the origin story. I think that's why the film
Speaker 1: will probably center around how that blow got to the bear,
Speaker 1: and it turns out that it was a man named
Speaker 1: Andrew Thornton who was like a corrupt narcotics cop who
Speaker 1: then transitioned to international drug smuggling kingpin. Amazing how those
Speaker 1: things happened sometimes, And so it all happened when one
Speaker 1: day he was doing I guess a massive transport of
Speaker 1: cocaine and there's some engine trouble occurred, and so he
Speaker 1: got spooked and started dumping as much as the blow
Speaker 1: out the planes doors as he could. And that's when
Speaker 1: I think the ship got into the forest or the
Speaker 1: bear got to it, and then he tried to jump
Speaker 1: out with a parachute, but unfortunately he was holding seventy
Speaker 1: pounds of cocaine, a ton of cash and guns that
Speaker 1: the weight was sucked up and his his shoot didn't
Speaker 1: deploy properly because the load was too much, and then
Speaker 1: he died and they've discovered him literally like with next
Speaker 1: to a seventy pound pilot blow with guns and like money,
Speaker 1: dead in the forest. Wow, I'm still not sure what
Speaker 1: the like, what how do we center the bear in this?
Speaker 1: Maybe the cocaine bear was inside all of us all along.
Speaker 1: Like here's what I would do. I would really take
Speaker 1: a lot of liberties with the story and do some
Speaker 1: pretty major world building where the bear comes upon the cocaine,
Speaker 1: eats it and then rather than dies a tragic death,
Speaker 1: um develops superpowers and then becomes a superhero bear super bear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the spec script was actually written by the
Speaker 1: bear before it died of a cocaine over there, so
Speaker 1: that might it was etched into a tree trunk with
Speaker 1: his cloth and then oh yeah, man, and I can
Speaker 1: see so good at night now, so then I get
Speaker 1: night vision and then yeah, I mean unfortunately, and it
Speaker 1: launched three restaurants in the Yeah, some sick underground bear speakeasies. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like world building. I would like some world building
Speaker 1: around there. I just the I get. I mean, like
Speaker 1: the story of this Andrew Thornton person seems fine, but
Speaker 1: I mean, what of this bear? Like I think I
Speaker 1: think the movie will be great if the entire film
Speaker 1: is about the bear and the last shot is the
Speaker 1: cocaine coming down from the sky. So it's just the bear.
Speaker 1: That movie where it's like following a bear around the forest, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Or that one movie Um with Danny de Vito, Jack
Speaker 1: the Bear. Wasn't that right with wo And Yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought I knew my bear movies. I thought that was
Speaker 1: a porn Jack the Bear. That's a different one, okay, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the the Marshall Hurskovitz direct could also be
Speaker 1: Um Brother Bear, that Disney vehicle from the early two thousands.
Speaker 1: I don't know and love. Um, maybe maybe it's The
Speaker 1: Revenant right there, from The Revenant. Rent. Could be it's
Speaker 1: just going through different movies because it's in its own mind,
Speaker 1: because it's so yeah again it's and we're still talking
Speaker 1: about a fucking animal that interested forty pounds of cocaine
Speaker 1: and it's a mess. Its body was a mess. It's wild.
Speaker 1: How quickly the bear because cocaine is it? I can't
Speaker 1: imagine it tastes good to bears? Uh, but it very
Speaker 1: quickly was like, holy sh it, I gotta get more.
Speaker 1: You know, You're like, man, I don't want to I'm
Speaker 1: coming down bro mo. Yeah yeah, forty pounds worth. How
Speaker 1: about it? Gosh um, unless maybe it was cut with
Speaker 1: like nutra sweet or sweet lower yeah, or like baby laxative,
Speaker 1: baby laxative. Yeah. I think, I mean this is this
Speaker 1: is Elizabeth Banks is third or well actually know she's not.
Speaker 1: She's directed a few things, but I'm I'm really curious
Speaker 1: to see what this how this all turns up Like
Speaker 1: it's just it's compelling and that it's so vague but
Speaker 1: has these odd specifics where how where where can we
Speaker 1: go with this guide me? Cocaine bear that is a
Speaker 1: wild true story. I mean you could it could literally
Speaker 1: go in so many directions. But did you see um
Speaker 1: Robert Evans's tweet about it? Um He said, this is
Speaker 1: the only movie we have needed since Fury Rode. So
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah? Alright, Well, speaking of the early two thousand's,
Speaker 1: Avatar is heading back. When did Avatar come out? Was
Speaker 1: that early two thousands? That was two nine? Right? Okay?
Speaker 1: Eight or nine? The late odds? Uh, Avatar. As we've discussed,
Speaker 1: it's it feels like Avatar didn't necessarily have the impact
Speaker 1: on the cultural consciousness that a lot of other movie did,
Speaker 1: At least at first. It wasn't like a It felt
Speaker 1: like a movie that never happened, even though it was
Speaker 1: for a time the most successful movie of all time
Speaker 1: and kicked off all three D everything right, but it
Speaker 1: but all three D after Avatar was bad and so
Speaker 1: it was just like so, China's Film Bureau has approved
Speaker 1: a surprise plan for Avatar to get a wide re
Speaker 1: release on Friday. It's like coming out now, and that
Speaker 1: is kind of big news because in addition to having
Speaker 1: been pretty popular, there was also an attempt to kind
Speaker 1: of shut it down like once it was at peak popularity,
Speaker 1: they like started taking it out of theaters uh and
Speaker 1: putting out like more uh, I guess China focused movies.
Speaker 1: There was there was a Confucius biopic that they like
Speaker 1: put out in a bunch of theaters instead of Avatar,
Speaker 1: like to try to artificially like control the culture and
Speaker 1: make it less like Western. And the Confucius biopic flapped
Speaker 1: big time. So there's like racist sketch with Chris Farley
Speaker 1: from SNL. It was starring Chow Young Fat. Uh Oh
Speaker 1: chaoyung Fat was confusus? Is he like shooting guns? Said
Speaker 1: John Woo cons Yeah, so there there's probably going to
Speaker 1: be like a bunch of excess demand. It was a
Speaker 1: huge deal back in two thousand nine. People waited in
Speaker 1: line for hours. Some people paid a hundred dollars per
Speaker 1: ticket to see Avatar. Whoa, and it was not worth it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was such a phenomenon that a local official renamed
Speaker 1: part of the Yellow Mountains after the floating mountains in
Speaker 1: the movie We Weren't they inspired by those mountains too?
Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, Like I feel like James Cameron
Speaker 1: was like or maybe it was there Vietnam or somewhere,
Speaker 1: but very much Okay, cool, Yeah, so that'll that'll be interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, you know, as we've discussed in previous episodes,
Speaker 1: the Chinese box office has now completely surpassed the American
Speaker 1: box office had a record setting day for a movie
Speaker 1: earlier this year. The all the economists forecasts are seeming
Speaker 1: are pretty spot on from the eighties and nineties when
Speaker 1: they're saying China will be the biggest uh you know,
Speaker 1: economic powerhouse by and now. Yeah, because they're movies are
Speaker 1: even like movies that aren't that great or just blowing
Speaker 1: out endgame for numbers, right yeah, yeah, anyway, so maybe
Speaker 1: maybe Avatar will have its chance to have more of
Speaker 1: a cultural impact. But wait, we still haven't heard about
Speaker 1: the sequels, and when is that happening? What is going
Speaker 1: on there? Didn't you release a teaser or something. I
Speaker 1: feel like I've read that somewhere. I've not been paying
Speaker 1: attention the only I mean, if it's Titanic or nothing,
Speaker 1: I don't care. You are Aronian film scholar I am,
Speaker 1: and I do really like Terminator and Terminator to Aliens
Speaker 1: is a great my goodness. Um yeah, but so I
Speaker 1: just I think he needs to shift his focus from
Speaker 1: all these Avatar sequels to some Titanic sequels. Yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: honestly watch it tight. I'm just interested in Conceptually, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're doing a sequel. I don't even know what the
Speaker 1: fun that would be, but I like it. It would
Speaker 1: just be about James Cameron diving Titanic. I feel like
Speaker 1: you could do just another person's story on the Titanic,
Speaker 1: not like focus on not Jack and Rose, but or
Speaker 1: anyone we've covered, because they would have aged. I mean,
Speaker 1: Danny Nucci does not look the same anymore as Fabrizio.
Speaker 1: He looks even better these days. Yeah, I used it's funny.
Speaker 1: I know his sister and the day I found out
Speaker 1: that her brother was Danny Nucci, Like, it blew my mind.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like the dude from Crimson Tide, that's
Speaker 1: your brother. Oh my god. The Rock he's in the Rock.
Speaker 1: He is in everything. Oh yeah. Shout out to the
Speaker 1: anniverse of his wife. Did she pass away March ninth? Again?
Speaker 1: According to The Rock, Yes, Barbara Hummel his wife from Okay,
Speaker 1: do you remember in the Rock? Where? Um, why are
Speaker 1: we being so gleeful about this woman passing away? No?
Speaker 1: Ed Harris's character in The Rock, right before he takes
Speaker 1: over the island, he goes to the graveyard where his
Speaker 1: wife is buried. But the tombstone it just says Barbara Hummel.
Speaker 1: But at the top it just says his wife all aggressively,
Speaker 1: and like when I did an episode, the first episode
Speaker 1: of Bechdel Costs I did was we were talking about
Speaker 1: the Rock and we just could not get over the
Speaker 1: Barbara hum even though this motherfucker's not buried, it's just
Speaker 1: still his whose wife? Wow? Which, like everyone will be
Speaker 1: like that's standard, like military cemetery. Yeah, we know that
Speaker 1: is wild m hm must be defined through husband. Yes,
Speaker 1: what um need? Cool? Uh? Well, Caitlin has been such
Speaker 1: a pleasure as always, Thank you so much. Where can
Speaker 1: people find you and follow you? You can follow me
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at Caitlin Durante and you know,
Speaker 1: scoot on over to my website Caitlin Durante dot com
Speaker 1: for information about upcoming screenwriting classes that I have because
Speaker 1: I use my master's degree in screenwriting. That again hate
Speaker 1: to mention to impart my knowledge to other people in
Speaker 1: my classes. So yeah, that's an a lum nye of
Speaker 1: your screenwriting courses. Have written such films as Cocaine Bear
Speaker 1: So Titanic. Uh, not the dialogue, just the overall Uh yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: the dialogue for Titanic. What when it was happening? I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it was happening. I was just like, James
Speaker 1: Cameron is not a good screen You're not good at
Speaker 1: writing how people talk. Just stop like with the the
Speaker 1: coked out idea and then let a screenwriter be like,
Speaker 1: that's an interesting idea, James. I will take it from
Speaker 1: here though. Just no shut up about no shut up
Speaker 1: about that other ship? Please? Uh? And is there a
Speaker 1: tweet or some of the work of social media you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying. Yes, I'll shout out Solomon Georgio, who recently
Speaker 1: tweeted my great My greatest fear is showing up anywhere
Speaker 1: and having to do something. Yeah, I do. Not relatable,
Speaker 1: And that's where we're headed. It seems like, yeah, Miles,
Speaker 1: where can people find you? What tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram,
Speaker 1: PlayStation network, Miles of Gray Um getting into Destiny too.
Speaker 1: Didn't think I would like the game, but it's kind
Speaker 1: of tight. Um. Also the other podcast for Twenty Day
Speaker 1: Fiance talking ninety day, So check that out and hit
Speaker 1: up the twitter streams the party. Some tweets that I like.
Speaker 1: First one is from Amelia Ellis All Day at Amilia
Speaker 1: Ellis all Day tweets you should be able to get
Speaker 1: buried alive, but just for an hour to rest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of cool. Another one from at your Underscore
Speaker 1: tweeting I was just about done with skating and then
Speaker 1: I landed a pop shove it while demonstrating that I've
Speaker 1: never landed one. Why is life like this? Uh? See?
Speaker 1: Because that just keep believing in yourself. And then another
Speaker 1: one is from Lauriel Simone at La Rielle Simone tweets
Speaker 1: there's a PTSD that comes from being poor that nobody
Speaker 1: he talks about when you start getting money and boy
Speaker 1: of the truth there the thinking will it all be gone?
Speaker 1: Will I be back to having no money? That's just
Speaker 1: that tweet I think resonated with a lot of people,
Speaker 1: especially if you were anyone millennial or gen Z when
Speaker 1: you thought you were about to start your life out
Speaker 1: of college and you're like, where's the where the jobs at? Uh?
Speaker 1: There is a tweet I was enjoying from Eve Forward.
Speaker 1: Uh to sign on a like? Uh? Custodial door that
Speaker 1: says refused to be stored in black plastic sacks and
Speaker 1: placed in the containers provided. But it looks like refused
Speaker 1: to be stored in the black plastics, and she wrote, rage,
Speaker 1: rage against the dying of the lake. Refused to be
Speaker 1: stored in the plastics. Do not go into that plastics. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you can find me on Twitter liking tweets like that
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