Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one sixty nine.
Speaker 1: Nice episode one of the guys the production of I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness. It's Monday, January. Uh
Speaker 1: we we won't go through the club. Guess y'all know
Speaker 1: what it is. It's it's bad in America. It's better elsewhere.
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien a K. I play switch
Speaker 1: like a motherfucker. I'll put you under. I go hard
Speaker 1: in the paint. I do not show restraint. I find
Speaker 1: shells on the beach and I sell them for cheap.
Speaker 1: You know that asshole Tom Nook owes me some Monday.
Speaker 1: That is courtesy of Christie. I'm a Gucci man and
Speaker 1: I am thrilled to be joined as always buy my
Speaker 1: co host Mr Miles grag Drump out of Office and
Speaker 1: Bernie and Mitton's Blue State of Georgia Q Shaman in prison.
Speaker 1: Now all I need is my COVID vaccine. These are
Speaker 1: a few of my favorite things. When the blunt sparks,
Speaker 1: when the clouds go okay, I made up that last part,
Speaker 1: but shout out Rob Cunningham at math Demigod for that
Speaker 1: wonderful favorite few things classic. It was one I didn't
Speaker 1: even look Rob. I appreciate this. I see this happened
Speaker 1: on the discord where people are really conscious of syllable
Speaker 1: count on the A K s because the seamless ones
Speaker 1: are just syllabic. Lee locked in and there was a
Speaker 1: little bit of back and forth in this. But shout
Speaker 1: out to everybody, but Rob, thank you for that one.
Speaker 1: Needed nailed it well. We are thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: in our third seat by the brilliant the town Joel.
Speaker 1: He all that's up. Oh man, it's a brand new day.
Speaker 1: I would say, brand new day. Twitter hasn't got me
Speaker 1: twisted because they're like, listen to get too excited, kind
Speaker 1: of like old stuff, and that's how we got here
Speaker 1: in the first place. I'm like, right, but can I
Speaker 1: be a little bit What if I'm like just real
Speaker 1: happy that one guy is gone, you know, and and
Speaker 1: it's things are looking better. A lot happened to Day one,
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of moves were made. I'm optimistic, cautiously.
Speaker 1: It's like because it's those things where it's like here
Speaker 1: we go. It's like, yes, the Keystone pipeline, It's like,
Speaker 1: but what about the Dakota Access Pipeline? And it's like, yes,
Speaker 1: what about these other things? And you're like what about
Speaker 1: the children and cages that were done by executive order?
Speaker 1: You could all, Okay, let's look, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: other ship to get to, but I feel like these
Speaker 1: are the things we can also get to. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel the same way. I think more than anything,
Speaker 1: Like you know I was I was talking about last
Speaker 1: week is like it truly felt like coming out of
Speaker 1: a cave, like being so used to the darkness and
Speaker 1: then coming out and trying to like like have the
Speaker 1: wherewithal or understand like is sunlight good? Do I like this?
Speaker 1: Because I know it's good? But what the funk is this?
Speaker 1: So there's sometimes when I'll like, have something dangerous happened,
Speaker 1: or like live through a dangerous event and like look
Speaker 1: back years on and be like, man, I can't believe
Speaker 1: like that that was scary. I can't. Like I felt
Speaker 1: that way immediately. I was like I can't believe that
Speaker 1: motherfucker was president, Like at twelve oh one, like when
Speaker 1: he was no longer, Like, wow, this feels much better.
Speaker 1: I can't believe he is ever was president? Um yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's just shows so much on even on like
Speaker 1: you know, as much as people listen to show me like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys managed to keep the news like so listenable
Speaker 1: and upbeat and thank you for that. And while we're
Speaker 1: able to do that, it's I can't I can't tell
Speaker 1: even listeners how much of a burden is lifted when
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking. The first thing I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: discover is some fucking next level of cruelty or just
Speaker 1: terrible way of running things. And now that that's kind
Speaker 1: of like okay, so now I'm just gonna have to
Speaker 1: be as scared but just keep the eye open as
Speaker 1: it already has been. But yeah, I got hyped for
Speaker 1: a press briefing. I was like, we're having one of them.
Speaker 1: She pointed at the journalists said their name, allowed them
Speaker 1: to say their their piece, and then didn't clap back.
Speaker 1: M huh, weird, weird. But I'm curious to see, like
Speaker 1: how because everyone's I think we're all in this phase
Speaker 1: of trying to figure out what what this new thing
Speaker 1: is our new way of talking about politics or new
Speaker 1: we have interacting with politics, And yeah, it'll like what
Speaker 1: is the media do Like some you can tell some
Speaker 1: people are still like they can't quit Trump just quite yet.
Speaker 1: And I get that there's he's still relevant in terms
Speaker 1: of impeachment, but like making it all about that still
Speaker 1: and like we're gonna have to doat that pretty soon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, because there's real ship that has to be
Speaker 1: covered in the country much in the same way. I'm like,
Speaker 1: will that same level of intense focus be there for
Speaker 1: this administration as it was for Trump? And I think
Speaker 1: that's that will be telling, Like how quickly they just go,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Isn't it great that the the briefings
Speaker 1: aren't combative. M Yeah, we we can't get caught up
Speaker 1: in manners obviously, uh, and have to stay focused. But
Speaker 1: there there's some policy, there's some good policy ship happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just you know, just keep it coming, just build on it,
Speaker 1: just keep building and don't don't don't make it so
Speaker 1: people say you lied to us. That's all people money.
Speaker 1: Give people money, don't. Uh. That was one thing that
Speaker 1: no trick math, Yeah, the trick math the relaxing or
Speaker 1: like changing policies around food banks. It's like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: people could just use some money, give them the money
Speaker 1: like that. That is always better than yeah, we're two
Speaker 1: in the bush, right something you but got them all right,
Speaker 1: let's uh, we're gonna get to know you a bit
Speaker 1: better in a moment, Joel. First, a couple of things
Speaker 1: we're talking about. The articles of impeachment are being delivered
Speaker 1: today to the Senate. We will see how much wants
Speaker 1: to play it. We'll talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about how they're delivering help for medical workers
Speaker 1: via technology. We'll talk about a new instance of the
Speaker 1: British cold Gas study, the Walmart study less refined sounding,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the Hall of Presidents at Disney. And
Speaker 1: now we're just gonna do a general streaming content check.
Speaker 1: And we haven't really talked about we haven't been doing
Speaker 1: our weekly watches because everything was pretty pretty. But you know,
Speaker 1: we have watched Wonder Woman eighty four, We have watched
Speaker 1: a couple of other things. So, uh, well, we'll talk
Speaker 1: about that all of that plenty more. But first, Joel,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that is revealing
Speaker 1: about who you are? UM? I have researched every single
Speaker 1: dog adoption place in Los Angeles because at the time
Speaker 1: it's kind of moved into my space and we you know,
Speaker 1: the boxes are slowly leaving the space we're moving. Is
Speaker 1: so hard, guys. But once, once we're we're ready for
Speaker 1: a dog, We're ready. We've been ready. It's been about
Speaker 1: a year and a half since we decided we're gonna
Speaker 1: get one. We've research breeds, we've research names, genders, training puppies,
Speaker 1: older dogs. What are we gonna get now? We've just
Speaker 1: come to the point we're like, we'll just take anything
Speaker 1: what's available. Please give us a dog so that we
Speaker 1: can love on it and have a reason to leave
Speaker 1: the house. Um, please bring something that just is completely
Speaker 1: not aware of the world into our space just by
Speaker 1: We're just gonna steal its energy. We're gonna be energy highers.
Speaker 1: And you got a pile of bummed out dogs in
Speaker 1: the back. They're like, I don't know, man, I can't
Speaker 1: really be in there with them too. Gonna let him replenish, Okay,
Speaker 1: trying to drain is energy, but you know, just survive
Speaker 1: off like what we do in The Shadows. I just
Speaker 1: started watching that too. It was so good and the
Speaker 1: energy Vampire is so good. So it's done really well.
Speaker 1: Of thinking of like it's hard to sort of immediately
Speaker 1: think of what a good energy vampire representation is. But
Speaker 1: goodness it, Wait, so what kind of dog? Like what
Speaker 1: it's there? Are there is there a shortage of dogs
Speaker 1: because I know there's been a lot of pet adoptions
Speaker 1: in the so there is still plenty of animals available. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I'm like, no, we've solved it. Right.
Speaker 1: They're going quickly like they go up and then like
Speaker 1: five seconds later like that dog has been adopted. I
Speaker 1: might have personal phone numbers from adopted people who work
Speaker 1: in the adoption you see. I'm like, what I just
Speaker 1: saw it, you posted four hours ago, and they're like
Speaker 1: adoption pending paperwork already proud, Like damn it, I can't
Speaker 1: sit on the site and wait, um, that's really hard.
Speaker 1: We are hoping for, um, some kind of picnics. Um.
Speaker 1: We live in a new space, my brothers on the
Speaker 1: bottom flor and so we're like we want like a
Speaker 1: somewhat aggressive dog to be like hey, don't come in
Speaker 1: our space. Um, but you know also fun and loving
Speaker 1: and so pitchnics is have a good combination of both. Uh,
Speaker 1: they can tap into something. Yeah exactly, they're really sweet dogs.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly exactly. There there they used to be babysitting dogs,
Speaker 1: which I love about them. You can leave them with
Speaker 1: the baby and no one will attack the baby. That's
Speaker 1: the that's the history if you look if I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's their whole history, but certainly a history
Speaker 1: point for them is like uh like eighteenth century, no, sorry,
Speaker 1: nineteen centuries so the end of the early nine you
Speaker 1: can find pictures of them baby bonus like sitting yes,
Speaker 1: cut feel like, oh my god, it almost looks like
Speaker 1: you're like, it looks like the headline of like and
Speaker 1: this child was taken from his parents. Oh wow, wow,
Speaker 1: oh my god exactly. The pit bulls are so loving
Speaker 1: and almost like yo, fuck a parent, man, like, why
Speaker 1: do I have a pit bull? Crazily me in the bed? Also,
Speaker 1: what man was in charge of choosing the name for them,
Speaker 1: because like, this is a loving dog that like can babysit.
Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, but that one time it fun
Speaker 1: a pit We'll call my pit bull. Bad pr for
Speaker 1: whoever named them, Oh my god, yeah it did. It's
Speaker 1: a long time frin place, let us have a pit bull.
Speaker 1: And so then we were like, well we're going to
Speaker 1: be here, we should definitely try to get one. Um,
Speaker 1: and oh my gosh, they're just so sweet and their
Speaker 1: faces and when they're puppies, Oh my god, I can't
Speaker 1: all right, they're so great. So yeah, that's what we're
Speaker 1: on the hunt. We're looking for one. I'm hoping to
Speaker 1: have one very soon. I just applied for one this morning.
Speaker 1: Um no updates on their website, So fingers crossed getting
Speaker 1: a dog. Now. I'm just watching videos of dogs licking
Speaker 1: babies faces. Oh my god, my dog went by the
Speaker 1: time our kids was born, was it just too old?
Speaker 1: And he was just tired, just real tired about them.
Speaker 1: He was just like he's got to be fucking kidding me.
Speaker 1: He's like, now you want to bring children into the house. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: look at my knees. This this pit bull as nannything
Speaker 1: is like a very contentious thing and like the dog
Speaker 1: truth community, Yeah, I mean it's like it's not that
Speaker 1: like it happened or didn't, but they're talking about like
Speaker 1: this article that introduced the concept. It's it's what's interesting
Speaker 1: to me more than anything is that there's a lot
Speaker 1: of energy going into like understanding it, and then also
Speaker 1: the myth about like this pit bull that killed a
Speaker 1: two year old. That was like guarding them like a
Speaker 1: weed crop sort of kicked off this whole idea of
Speaker 1: like pit as baby eater in these remember that? So
Speaker 1: what wow? And all that to say, we just want
Speaker 1: a dog to love, yeah, and guard our weed also bonuses.
Speaker 1: We'll take it. Do you have a name? We've been
Speaker 1: tossing some things around. Justin was telling me this morning
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm just gonna call it cute.
Speaker 1: It was very long, and I was like, listen, I
Speaker 1: don't care what you name the dog because technically his dog.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to name it is five with me.
Speaker 1: I just want to hug the thing. I just I
Speaker 1: want to flop his ears and then take it outside
Speaker 1: for a walk, Like dogs, they're the best. Did you
Speaker 1: say you want to name it Q? Do you want
Speaker 1: to name it? Oh, my gosh, something after Cumberback for
Speaker 1: like a play on his words, like the Ricken Morty
Speaker 1: inside joke, if I remember correctly. And I was like,
Speaker 1: that's a really long name. I'm just going to call
Speaker 1: it Q. Simplify right, right, que? Because you you are
Speaker 1: that That's something I'm sure we'll get too later. But
Speaker 1: you are a Q on subscriber. Oh absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally, yeah,
Speaker 1: they were justified. Hey, when you take him for a walk,
Speaker 1: you'll be cleaning up his cue drops. Am I right,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Uh, started me start on this one.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Is the Internet?
Speaker 1: I have been without internet for almost a week, and
Speaker 1: let me tell you, absolutely essential to our existence as
Speaker 1: human beings. Now, I'm so lucky. My father sent me
Speaker 1: a like terabyte hard drive filled with movies. That's what
Speaker 1: I've had to watch lately. There is no streaming right
Speaker 1: now in my house. I'll grade my phone plan to
Speaker 1: a hot spot. That thing is slow as hell. Uh,
Speaker 1: Internet required for existence? Yeah, so I'm guessing your move.
Speaker 1: The monopoly of Spectrum hasn't home to bless your wires listen.
Speaker 1: So frustrating, I called the called the landlord and I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, we're wired for Internet, right. They were like,
Speaker 1: no doubt, great, we got I've set up internet since
Speaker 1: I was four. I know how to do this. This
Speaker 1: is great. I just set it up. They set it up.
Speaker 1: I get the NonStop boaking lights. Call Spectrum, you know,
Speaker 1: fix your stuff. They're like, oh, hey, we're seeing you.
Speaker 1: You're here, like we're not here. I promise you I
Speaker 1: know how to do this. Internet not there, So then
Speaker 1: they sent somebody over that guy total jerk was essentially like, oh,
Speaker 1: we have to set up an entire new box for
Speaker 1: you connected to your phone line because while you have
Speaker 1: an internet wire, you do not have our internet wire.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Still not quite sure, but they've
Speaker 1: got to do construction and ntil holes and walls and
Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy things, like we can come back
Speaker 1: in a week, right right, my corpse will let you
Speaker 1: in internet order groceries. What are we doing? I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know what, just go ahead, put the date down.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call other company and we'll see who can
Speaker 1: get here faster. Like wh're telling A T and T
Speaker 1: And they were like, we can do ten megabytes per
Speaker 1: second equipment. I was like, out the door, no ever
Speaker 1: talk to me again, a T and T. I can
Speaker 1: stream one thing a day. Don't talk to me or
Speaker 1: my son ever again. Fiber wire cables, but I'm getting
Speaker 1: ten megabents Like oh god, it in l A is
Speaker 1: just yeah, we'll randomly be like we can't get to
Speaker 1: your house. Sorry. It's like, oh yeah, I'm in the
Speaker 1: middle of the neighborhood. My neighbor has like very your
Speaker 1: highest high speed internet, but they're like, yeah, sorry, we
Speaker 1: we can't get there for some reason. It's mind blowing.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why we let internet companies. I had
Speaker 1: a person come and then tell me to get spect
Speaker 1: Rooms showed up. I'm like, yo, I need this ship now,
Speaker 1: like I needed fifteen minutes ago. Like my whole life
Speaker 1: is on the Internet, and like I like, whatever has
Speaker 1: to happen. And they're like, yeah, I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: with you, man, You're probably better off of Spectrum at
Speaker 1: this point. And I'm like, you're not even looking at
Speaker 1: the thing. He's like I can just tell I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to go up there, and if I'm like ship,
Speaker 1: then the Spectrum guy came. It was really nice, which
Speaker 1: is very un that's very not familiar on Spectrum of him,
Speaker 1: but like it was. Sometimes you have those tech people
Speaker 1: who like actually give a funk about their job and
Speaker 1: not to say like yeah whatever. It is, Like I
Speaker 1: just love when someone has enthusiasm about it and it's
Speaker 1: like over explaining like yeah, this is the reason blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. But I'm glad you're almost on the other
Speaker 1: side of your Internet list, like one more week ship
Speaker 1: it's uh yeah, it's an indictment any any time you're
Speaker 1: dealing with a telecom company, it's an indictment of capitalism.
Speaker 1: I feel like, because these should all be fucking public services,
Speaker 1: you know, like public utilities that are actually done in
Speaker 1: a humane way and like a portable rather than like
Speaker 1: how much can you afford where they're like, oh well
Speaker 1: you can't afford to stream your education, you can afford
Speaker 1: to like look at static documents like funk off, Joel,
Speaker 1: what movies are on the hard drive? What any forgot class?
Speaker 1: So you just so, first of every action movie between
Speaker 1: two thousand now is on there. For sure, we watched
Speaker 1: all the Fast and Furious. Is every Mission Impossible? H
Speaker 1: on the Planet of the Apes? If it blew up,
Speaker 1: it was on there. But then he also included a
Speaker 1: lot of like black American classes. Glory is on there,
Speaker 1: and so is the color purple. And I'm like, what
Speaker 1: mood were you in when you were were you like?
Speaker 1: Also things that blow up? But also education? And then
Speaker 1: he put a lot of girly movies on there for me,
Speaker 1: which I really appreciated. My atonement is on there um,
Speaker 1: but also Pride and Prejudice is on there, which baby movie?
Speaker 1: Watch it over and over again. Yeah, A nice, A
Speaker 1: nice combination. I will say this a movie for every
Speaker 1: mood because there has not been one time where we're like,
Speaker 1: there's nothing to watch on this thing, and that spilled
Speaker 1: through all of Netflix and found nothing to watch. So
Speaker 1: I was pretty pleased with it. That's some top notch
Speaker 1: dadding right there. That's like something that if you can,
Speaker 1: if you can like put a movie selection together that
Speaker 1: will entertain your kids for over a week. Like that's
Speaker 1: you go in the Dad Hall of Fame, right, no
Speaker 1: matter if you're three or thirty. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I was that we did also watch all
Speaker 1: the Kunku Pandas and all the Chrain Your Dragons, So yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta send my dad an award or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if most dads, it would just be a series of
Speaker 1: liam Nesson movies and probably some Sigal in there. But yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you don't understand it in color. Peter Jackson took all
Speaker 1: that World War One footage and made it so real.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is overrated? Um my controversial
Speaker 1: overrated that I may take back in a week when
Speaker 1: I have Internet, it's Twitter. I don't miss Twitter. It's
Speaker 1: really bizarre. I don't have it. I'm on a you know,
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit in the morning now, but since
Speaker 1: there's no like open tab of Twitter on my computer now, uh,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like, oh, is this also part
Speaker 1: of the likeness that I feel? Maybe it's not just
Speaker 1: a new president energy. Maybe this also you know, stupid
Speaker 1: controversy that I don't need to be involved in, and
Speaker 1: I'll forget in two seconds. But for some reason, let's
Speaker 1: overtake my life for a bit. For example, my friend
Speaker 1: texts me and she was like, Hey, we're seeing all
Speaker 1: this Gaga stuff happening on Twitter. I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: not on Twitter right now, what's going on? And she
Speaker 1: was like she wore m mocking j to the inauguration.
Speaker 1: And I was like, a bold choice, no, not seeing
Speaker 1: it get on. Everyone's in hysterics, just upset about it,
Speaker 1: or it's the most hilarious thing and it turns out
Speaker 1: it's a dove and then completely appropriate for now. But
Speaker 1: I was like, so this was a bit we spread
Speaker 1: a whole day on this bird that meant nothing ridiculous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize there was like criticism of her, like
Speaker 1: because I was saying she was extra but like that
Speaker 1: is I thought she was amazing and like very like
Speaker 1: her theatricality is like great and what makes her her
Speaker 1: and like is her artistic contribution to the world. But
Speaker 1: people got defensive because I guess people were being critical
Speaker 1: of her appearance. I thought it was like iconic. People
Speaker 1: thought she was perhaps buying into the Mocking series or
Speaker 1: trying to send some type of subtle message. Right capital,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, nothing is such. Everything's over, so you'd be like,
Speaker 1: what is she trying to do. I'm like, she's doing
Speaker 1: what she does full, so take what you will and
Speaker 1: keep it moving, right. Yeah. Her fashion sense has always
Speaker 1: seemed to be uh, you know the capital from that
Speaker 1: series adjacent, you know, like, oh, the capital from Hunger Games,
Speaker 1: Like the capital from that series that Jason Like what
Speaker 1: the is Jed happen when she was at Brain is Melting?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, the capital from Hunger Games ad Jason Twitter.
Speaker 1: I say this all the time, like as I try
Speaker 1: and ramp down my social media just like I have
Speaker 1: it in like sub sub folders to really make myself
Speaker 1: be like do you want to go there? Do you
Speaker 1: want to go inside there? Because I it does seem
Speaker 1: based on like, you know, just all of the media
Speaker 1: I interact with on there. I'm like, it's just it's
Speaker 1: a lot and most of the time, like I'm getting
Speaker 1: all this information already, but it's like do I want
Speaker 1: it like in real time? Because when I look at
Speaker 1: that like little icon on my home screen, it feels
Speaker 1: like it's like a door where on the other side
Speaker 1: you're hearing like screams and like fighting and like explosions,
Speaker 1: and I'm like looking at it like slow zooming on him,
Speaker 1: like do I want to open this door? And I'm like, nope, no,
Speaker 1: I feel getting news lately has definitely been like the
Speaker 1: penny Wise Doors. I don't know if you saw the
Speaker 1: latest it, but at the end of part one, the
Speaker 1: kids have to choose like one of three closet doors
Speaker 1: to enter, and they're all pretty terrible, and they're like,
Speaker 1: when do we choose the one with like the beheaded
Speaker 1: little girl or the one with the stabby guy, the
Speaker 1: one that appears empty, but we'll definitely swallow this hole
Speaker 1: if we close that door. Uh, And yeah, it's CNN
Speaker 1: has been pretty good, but they are also repetitive as hell,
Speaker 1: so that gets tiresome after not too long. Twitter it's
Speaker 1: like a constant stream of misinformation, and I won't bother
Speaker 1: to even suggest Facebook as a potential source because that's
Speaker 1: just chaos. So yeah, I feel like lately, to be honest,
Speaker 1: I there's so much research to do for some of
Speaker 1: my other pods that I've just been buried in Star
Speaker 1: Wars and x buch Nicer over there, uh surprisingly with
Speaker 1: a crazy fan base. Yeah, I'm into the Wikipedia. I'm
Speaker 1: actually going back and like reading a ton of the
Speaker 1: Star Wars novels because I want to interview a lot
Speaker 1: of those authors sort of like held up Star Wars
Speaker 1: in between the original series and the launch of the prequels.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I've just been deep into like really heavy
Speaker 1: research territory and like screening new podcasts and trying to
Speaker 1: see what's out there. Just I'm so much more into
Speaker 1: the work right now than I am into the rest
Speaker 1: of the world. I think not being outside for so long.
Speaker 1: Coming outside today was like very strange. Trying to leave
Speaker 1: the house is a crazy experiment in human conditioning. What
Speaker 1: I used to do every day is now like jacket
Speaker 1: you definitely need a jacket. Do I pack everything to go.
Speaker 1: I think it's like how parents feel when they have
Speaker 1: a new baby and they're like, we have to take
Speaker 1: everything because we don't know what's going to happen once
Speaker 1: we leave this. I just take it, Just take it.
Speaker 1: You never know. Yeah, never flip an egg in the pan.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back and impeachment is back in
Speaker 1: the Senate. We don't really know what's going to happen. Uh,
Speaker 1: the articles are being delivered today. Mitch wanted to delay,
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, it's not his it's not his
Speaker 1: decision anymore. Yeah, I mean there's a little negotiating. I
Speaker 1: think he wants to be like mid February was like
Speaker 1: a thing. I don't know what for. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: already trying to funk around in block nomination, so you
Speaker 1: know that, I think we know what to do. Uh
Speaker 1: can fully ignore this turtle fuck? So Uh yeah, it'll
Speaker 1: you know, if things still go according to plan as
Speaker 1: of right now, it would be Tuesday at one eastern
Speaker 1: would officially kick off the trial phase. So and we
Speaker 1: get to do it all over again. It's just so funny,
Speaker 1: how like we're still like caught in the fucking grips
Speaker 1: where the news I actually isn't changing, but this is
Speaker 1: like he has to be held accountable. But I'm curious
Speaker 1: to know how much you know, this actually takes up
Speaker 1: the news cycle because this is this will be a
Speaker 1: thing like can they do two things at once? Can
Speaker 1: it be we're covering this? And also what's happening with
Speaker 1: the Biden administration going into like this omni crisis that
Speaker 1: he's that he's like Waltston too, so M yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot of questions. Yeah, alright, let's talk about UH. Let's
Speaker 1: switch gears to the UH global pandemic that's currently devastating
Speaker 1: these United States. UH and solutions are are a thing
Speaker 1: that is being talked about and covered and actually proposed
Speaker 1: right now. We saw Fauci at the end of last
Speaker 1: week looking looking like a decade younger, just like it's
Speaker 1: just like he was like that private Ryan gift and
Speaker 1: reverse where man, it's like the old man turned it
Speaker 1: like I was. It was something I think I also
Speaker 1: got a bit of cathartic, Like it was cathartic for
Speaker 1: me to see him be like take his mask off
Speaker 1: when his first press conference and I'm like, he's back. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: but working in medicine right now, uh is very difficult,
Speaker 1: especially you know, the Los Angeles area is just being
Speaker 1: crushed crushed right now by COVID. Uh. I know people
Speaker 1: in medicine who are just you know, really struggling. You know, Miles,
Speaker 1: you were saying you have nurse friends who are just underwater. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just like trying to hear. You know. I have
Speaker 1: one really close friend. She's like in oncology, so she's
Speaker 1: not part of that that effort. But and she's also like,
Speaker 1: it feels it's really weird for me because she used
Speaker 1: to work in a trauma unit. She's like when things
Speaker 1: like this, I'm I was very malleable, but now she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, I see how bad it is,
Speaker 1: and I almost feel blessed that I'm like in oncology
Speaker 1: because these people also need help. But I'm not being
Speaker 1: because a lot of people are being you know, shuffled
Speaker 1: around to address the lack of like medical workers that
Speaker 1: we have. But yeah, hearing just about how just the
Speaker 1: disparities between how hospitals are treating nurses and doctors to
Speaker 1: how funding is being moved to like how places need to.
Speaker 1: It's it's just a really bad picture. And for anyone
Speaker 1: who knows anyone who's had to work during this pandemic,
Speaker 1: especially in the medical field, you know how traumatic this
Speaker 1: has been for people because they're dealing with levels of
Speaker 1: death and loss that are like unheard of, um in
Speaker 1: terms of like what they're what the normal flow is
Speaker 1: of like incidences in the hospital. So you know, like
Speaker 1: there's this whole so obviously there needs to be a
Speaker 1: push to actually address this. And when you just read
Speaker 1: from what it's like to be a nurse who works
Speaker 1: in like the long haul recovery ward of a COVID
Speaker 1: like at a hospital, not the people who are like
Speaker 1: in the midst of fighting the illness, like the people
Speaker 1: who have recovered he quote unquote, but are still dealing
Speaker 1: with like the terrible after effects. This is what one
Speaker 1: of the accounts of a nurse is like. And this
Speaker 1: is from Mount Sinai in New York. It's scary, she says.
Speaker 1: I see marathon runners who are unable to go up
Speaker 1: and downstairs, and attorneys unable to string proper sentences together
Speaker 1: without words searching due to severe brain fog we've seen
Speaker 1: thousands and have thousands more on the wait list. Uh.
Speaker 1: This Wired article goes on to say she's bracing for
Speaker 1: a surge of need in the coming months. Quote the
Speaker 1: worst is yet to come. She says, the hardest thing
Speaker 1: to say to these patients is that we don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on, but we were going to do our
Speaker 1: best to treat it. I'm not sure that was ever
Speaker 1: something we had to say to a patient that science
Speaker 1: has failed us and we can't figure out the pathology. So,
Speaker 1: you know, like on top of already having to take
Speaker 1: care of these people, many of whom are like will
Speaker 1: lose their lives, they're also like in this place, like
Speaker 1: the they feel doubly helpless because the the science is
Speaker 1: like it it needs time to catch up to everything,
Speaker 1: and and it's just really affecting a terrible environment. And
Speaker 1: the surveys that have gone out with health care workers
Speaker 1: just shows how much more of a you know, like
Speaker 1: depressive state this has put people in in the actual pain.
Speaker 1: And a lot of experts are looking at nine eleven
Speaker 1: UM and the research that was done with first responders
Speaker 1: there to see actually what effect this is going to
Speaker 1: have on medical workers long term um, because they said
Speaker 1: they after nine eleven, they found twenty six point eight
Speaker 1: percent of police and forty six percent of non traditional
Speaker 1: responders like construction workers, had PTSD symptoms twelve years after
Speaker 1: nine eleven. And so that even shows like that we
Speaker 1: have to actually focus too on the PTSD of the
Speaker 1: people who are taking care of all of the people
Speaker 1: that are dying. So that's where like the technology part
Speaker 1: comes in, right, Yeah, I mean they they've really found
Speaker 1: that PTSD like is like if you're not addressing it,
Speaker 1: if you're not talking about it, like that is a
Speaker 1: huge compounding factor. And so like the more that we
Speaker 1: can just like culturally and societally just like make it
Speaker 1: a thing that there's absolutely no stigma around, uh, and
Speaker 1: it's being proactively addressed. Uh. You know that that's just
Speaker 1: something that like studies have found more and more that
Speaker 1: people who are able to actually like I think that
Speaker 1: had like part. That's part of the dynamic with m
Speaker 1: d M A being like a thing that gets you
Speaker 1: to drop your you know, social programming too and like
Speaker 1: resistance to actually just confronting your feelings straight on. And
Speaker 1: that's why it's an effective therapy for people who are
Speaker 1: suffering from PTSD UH and just like societally, if we
Speaker 1: could all take a some m d M A around
Speaker 1: this subject, I feel like that would be you see
Speaker 1: it rapidly like we are having an evolution, you know,
Speaker 1: like when like even the Rock is like, yo have depression, folks,
Speaker 1: the rock people who look and be like, yeah, there
Speaker 1: goes a man who will suffer in silence, and let
Speaker 1: that turn into some other health condition down the road.
Speaker 1: Like it's yes, we have to talk about these things.
Speaker 1: And that's what's I think the benefit now is that
Speaker 1: because of that, we can look at these healthcare work
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, what are we doing to help their situation?
Speaker 1: Because their entire shift is just filled with chaos. So
Speaker 1: a lot of these UH like recharge rooms have been
Speaker 1: like set up across the country. I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: slowly catching on, but these are like these are essentially
Speaker 1: meant to be a place for ten to fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: these frontline workers can just take a second to be
Speaker 1: in an environment that isn't so sterile, that isn't like
Speaker 1: on the midst of the chaos of the hospital floor.
Speaker 1: And they were they these experts UH teamed up with
Speaker 1: like there's this woman named Morrel Phillips, who they designed
Speaker 1: like more aultisensory like experiences, but have now actually been like,
Speaker 1: how can we do this in a therapeutic way, And
Speaker 1: they're using biophilic design principles, so basically saying like, as much,
Speaker 1: how can we make this room feel like nature and
Speaker 1: natural as much as possible, and also working with like
Speaker 1: musicians and sound designers to really create sounds like of
Speaker 1: nature or like you know, certain types of music that
Speaker 1: are shown to like sort of bring people's stress levels
Speaker 1: down to make these rooms, and the results seemed pretty
Speaker 1: clear there. There was a study that was done and
Speaker 1: then they found that fifteen fifteen minutes in the restart
Speaker 1: recharge room at the end of the shift was reducing
Speaker 1: people's stress of these essential workers by up to six um.
Speaker 1: And that's really something that they're like, damn okay, even
Speaker 1: something as simple as like just a place to sort
Speaker 1: of transition out of your really intense work, uh work
Speaker 1: schedule to then be like, okay, let me sort of
Speaker 1: get back in touch like in my body, because you know,
Speaker 1: your limbic system is probably just hijacking your whole ship
Speaker 1: in the midst of all of what's going on. So Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's wild to see this effort kind of come together.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see like there there's so many
Speaker 1: studies that find a really profound link between mental and
Speaker 1: physical health, and there's so much we still don't know
Speaker 1: about that. Like that, I feel like this is a
Speaker 1: frontier that we're going to see people exploring more and
Speaker 1: more in in the healthcare field. Like I I could
Speaker 1: this seems like it could be just the beginning of
Speaker 1: a broader you know, like bring bring those two ideas
Speaker 1: together and get these people to redesign hospital rooms for
Speaker 1: for the patients too, so that you know, like we
Speaker 1: we've seen that somebody's mental health or like how they're feeling, uh,
Speaker 1: can totally change how how well they recover from surgery.
Speaker 1: So like, uh, you know, I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: feel like rooms are just famously so comforting and because
Speaker 1: it's all about yeah, it's all about utility, and that
Speaker 1: makes sense. That's like the framework that we've been kind
Speaker 1: of designing them within. But now like that, I I
Speaker 1: could see this becoming like a much broader thing. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna have to because if we think about
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're twelve years later you're still dealing
Speaker 1: with the effects of nine eleven. I mean, at one point,
Speaker 1: we're having like a nine eleven every day as far
Speaker 1: as just total death count for the country, and then
Speaker 1: stack on top of that just the duration of it.
Speaker 1: It's so long. It's still such like a long fight
Speaker 1: to go. I mean, we're gonna have to think about it,
Speaker 1: of course for a medical personnel, but also like somebody
Speaker 1: was talking the other day about how they their friend
Speaker 1: has like a one year old and the the kid
Speaker 1: outside and it was clear the kid was having like
Speaker 1: just overload from just being outside. Um, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of damage done to all of us just from in
Speaker 1: the past year. But four year old like covers his
Speaker 1: mouth when he's outside sometimes and I have to remind him, like,
Speaker 1: it's not that the outside is, you know, infected, it's
Speaker 1: that you know it's but it commits. It's very confusing,
Speaker 1: you know, for for young kids who this is now
Speaker 1: like over a quarter of their lives uh spent in
Speaker 1: in the pandemic. But it's uh. Also kids are resilient,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure it's like what you're talking about, Jack
Speaker 1: sort of too, about like recovery and like what that
Speaker 1: environment is for someone's physical because like we've since the
Speaker 1: beginning of like the Lockdown, we've read stories about how
Speaker 1: like being in nature has like helped people's stress levels
Speaker 1: or perceived happiness levels just by being out there. And like, okay,
Speaker 1: but it's like it's like we're fast approaching like a
Speaker 1: field of study and I'm where this already exists, so
Speaker 1: science that getting even shaming my mentions, but like it's
Speaker 1: like the like vibology, you know what I mean, We're
Speaker 1: like you can say like that there's this thing that
Speaker 1: seems intangible but people can perceive or it's like, oh
Speaker 1: this feels this, Oh wow, this feels good, or like
Speaker 1: this room feels nice or whatever that we're like having
Speaker 1: me like how can we we need to harness the
Speaker 1: power of the vibes to heal? Uh So you know,
Speaker 1: I mean that was one of the things that Fauci
Speaker 1: was saying, is that it's all about vibes man the
Speaker 1: press more so than masks. He was pretty clearly high.
Speaker 1: He was, Yeah, he was, he was. I mean, those
Speaker 1: his fucking pupils look like dinner plates. So I was like,
Speaker 1: but music therapy, it's obviously, you know, there's a I
Speaker 1: think stigma around things like vibes, and uh, you know
Speaker 1: that's why we're so uh you know, far behind with
Speaker 1: regards to unifying mental and physical hell. But and also
Speaker 1: the brain is just a complete mystery. So uh, it's
Speaker 1: a it's an uphill battle. But I do think it
Speaker 1: is a frontier of medicine that people will be more
Speaker 1: and more open to, hopefully uh by necessity the new
Speaker 1: quack doctors or bi biologists. Yeah, I could see it.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about my favorite subjects. Not really
Speaker 1: my favorite subject, but I got I get a lot
Speaker 1: of ship from bringing it up all the time. The
Speaker 1: British cold Gas study, which found that basically giving people
Speaker 1: access to or taking away their access to um, you know,
Speaker 1: methods of suicide actually affects whether people kill themselves. That's
Speaker 1: not a thing that like, where there's a will, there's
Speaker 1: a way. It's it's named after the fact that they
Speaker 1: changed the type of gas that was used in British
Speaker 1: ovens in the twentieth century, and once the method of
Speaker 1: putting it sticking your head in an oven was no
Speaker 1: longer lethal, Uh, the British suicide rate dropped by like
Speaker 1: a third. Because that's how a third of people were
Speaker 1: killing themselves. They just had a box they could stick
Speaker 1: their head in that would end their life. And so
Speaker 1: that was once that went away, people stopped just the
Speaker 1: suicides one way as opposed to people finding a different way. Um,
Speaker 1: so there's more evidence on I usually bring this up
Speaker 1: in relation to gun control, and there's now very specific
Speaker 1: evidence that proves that that is valid, that that's you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people bring it up. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't just bring it up, but a lot of people
Speaker 1: bring it up in relation to gun control. And new
Speaker 1: research has showed that a temporary decision by Walmart to
Speaker 1: stop selling firearms reduced the suicide rate by three point
Speaker 1: three to seven point five percent in counties with Walmart stores,
Speaker 1: which was an estimated five thousand to eleven thousand lives
Speaker 1: saved or five thousand too close to twelve thousand life saved.
Speaker 1: And so, you know, this is just one of those
Speaker 1: things that it seems like, it seems to me like
Speaker 1: the most straightforward case for gun control is like there
Speaker 1: are lives that are being lost explicitly because people are
Speaker 1: allowed to have guns in their house. Yeah, but how
Speaker 1: much do Walmart profits fall? Right at time? But beyond
Speaker 1: even that. I was like, the so many people in
Speaker 1: the pandemic here, like, well, people die, what can you do?
Speaker 1: They're gonna die, Like it's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: that same energy. And if you're things I've actually heard,
Speaker 1: if you're she would have to take your own minds
Speaker 1: and maybe you deserve to die. These just callous and
Speaker 1: completely uncaring about like, well, you know some people are
Speaker 1: sick and you'd help, and you could, we could easily
Speaker 1: give that to them as we could have gotten. Like
Speaker 1: it's pretty much the same amount of effort goes into
Speaker 1: like helping somebody as it does. It just be like
Speaker 1: while you're on your own, buddy. Comparing it to like
Speaker 1: mental like the connection between mental and physical health, it's
Speaker 1: like if getting a fever killed you, if you are
Speaker 1: going through a particularly difficult period of time and you
Speaker 1: have access to something that, uh, you know you're mentally
Speaker 1: you're not well, and you have access to something that
Speaker 1: locks that feeling in like that it's the same. It's
Speaker 1: like you know that that idea that suicide is a
Speaker 1: permanent solution to a temporary problem is I think unimportant,
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of a quippy thing, but it's also
Speaker 1: like these statistics bear out that that ends up being
Speaker 1: what it is a lot of the time. Like and
Speaker 1: you know, there have been longitudinal studies of people who
Speaker 1: jump off the Golden gate Bridge and survive, and there's like,
Speaker 1: I think nineties something per cent of them go on
Speaker 1: to not kill themselves. They go on to live normal lives. Uh.
Speaker 1: And so it's like the just because you make that
Speaker 1: decision in that moment doesn't mean that two minutes later
Speaker 1: you would have still wanted to make that decision. The
Speaker 1: very just rigid view of it, that doesn't that didn't
Speaker 1: help anyone at all. And having a button that ends
Speaker 1: your life, as which is what guns are, is like
Speaker 1: the most permanent and just the most drastic way of
Speaker 1: you know, uh, locking in that what is a sort
Speaker 1: of philosophical dilemma that people you know generally don't down
Speaker 1: the road don't want to have. Like that's what it makes, uh,
Speaker 1: the decision to take your own life so tragic to
Speaker 1: me that so often times the person would have wanted
Speaker 1: not to have done that if you had given them
Speaker 1: another day to think on it, if they just didn't
Speaker 1: have that means right there, Walmart is just like being
Speaker 1: you know, for most people know, Walmart is just the
Speaker 1: destroyer of a company and what it's done to just,
Speaker 1: you know, most small businesses across the land. But then
Speaker 1: like to add this on top of the thing about
Speaker 1: how Walmart and McDonald's, like are the two companies that
Speaker 1: employ so many Americans that still need are relying on
Speaker 1: public benefits because of their unwillingness to actually give people
Speaker 1: the things they need. Um, it's like, like, come on
Speaker 1: something that we're having the fifteen an hour argument? How
Speaker 1: is that still a conversation? Where have we started that
Speaker 1: conversation when I was in college? Should be twenty five
Speaker 1: that's at minimum, it should be twenty five dollars an hour.
Speaker 1: And you know the well are you going to pay
Speaker 1: for that? It's just it's called the people who you'll
Speaker 1: never be as rich as are going to be slightly less, right, right?
Speaker 1: Or the other argument we here all the time is like, oh,
Speaker 1: well then that will force them to like fire people,
Speaker 1: it'll bring more machines, Like that's already happening, Like you're
Speaker 1: already having machines taking over people jobs. Like here's I
Speaker 1: think machines don't consume products, So what do you do
Speaker 1: about that? You know, like it's like, oh, so then
Speaker 1: you have to do you have to have money for people,
Speaker 1: whether it's through a U, B I or something um,
Speaker 1: because we're not going to some weird like the Island
Speaker 1: type vibe where everyone's wearing like their white uniform and
Speaker 1: like here's your gruel and you know, growing your pelotona.
Speaker 1: It's holding back progress by you know, like allowing companies
Speaker 1: right well, because we're still like it's still it's like
Speaker 1: it's just wage slavery, you know, and that's because your
Speaker 1: only options. Okay, so you're not gonna work, then you'll die,
Speaker 1: right Well, that's a fund up. Why am I? What's
Speaker 1: this game? What's this game set up as? Exactly? So
Speaker 1: if I don't do this, if I don't work and
Speaker 1: toiled in my option, I there's nothing to rely on
Speaker 1: to help me. So my only option is to be
Speaker 1: have my labor exploited. Yes, the goal of capitalism you
Speaker 1: work or you die, which with everybody who is physically
Speaker 1: unable to work or people who have any kind of
Speaker 1: barrier to working. This woman who it's a brilliant writer,
Speaker 1: but she's deaf. It was having such a hard time
Speaker 1: finding a job that would make any kind of like
Speaker 1: accommodations for her. She's like, all want to be on zoom.
Speaker 1: I can't hear what you're saying and none of you
Speaker 1: sign So what am I doing here? What is the point?
Speaker 1: And that she can't she literally cannot participate in the work.
Speaker 1: She's proven herself time and time again to be good
Speaker 1: at that kind of stuff is so frustrating. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we live in a society where you you absolutely have
Speaker 1: to be productive in order to be valued, and I
Speaker 1: think that that's so disgusting. Yeah, and we're just we're
Speaker 1: not like shedding that like toxic philosophy quick enough, you know,
Speaker 1: because we still have we gotta work hard, even if
Speaker 1: your hands bleed. It's like that's fucking fucked up and cruel.
Speaker 1: Like there there has to be some like level that
Speaker 1: we can all come to an agree on, but I
Speaker 1: think that will take time. It's like it's just really
Speaker 1: we're just watching these companies like grind people out to
Speaker 1: the point where we're just like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: do we do it? But it's like, well, we have
Speaker 1: fucking you know, this is all we have to be
Speaker 1: in this together. Um, So that we have to look
Speaker 1: at that and say that's not a good situation. That's
Speaker 1: not a direction philosophically, societally I want to move in.
Speaker 1: But come on, well, day by day, just gotta keep
Speaker 1: that in the front of the mind because hopefully, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll reach a tipping point of people thinking in the
Speaker 1: same way and we can start I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: that's a little too optimistic, but hey, the last four
Speaker 1: years have at least got people are pretty focused on ships,
Speaker 1: so maybe something to do with it. Yeah. Uh, and
Speaker 1: just before we got a break, just going back to
Speaker 1: the suicide conversation, that it is a public health crisis
Speaker 1: in the United States. It is twice as common as homicide,
Speaker 1: which is the exact opposite of what people assume, because
Speaker 1: homicide gets you know, at least twice as much coverage
Speaker 1: when it happens, and it is that way because of guns.
Speaker 1: So it's a public health crisis that is being ignored
Speaker 1: every day in the country. So all right, let's on
Speaker 1: that note, take a break, and we'll be back to
Speaker 1: talk about things that aren't suicide. And we're back, and
Speaker 1: we haven't checked in with what people are streaming, what
Speaker 1: content people are consuming in a little while, because uh,
Speaker 1: there's been a lot going on. Um, but there have
Speaker 1: been you know, we we've kind of mentioned in passing
Speaker 1: that Wonder Woman eighty four was the most streamed piece
Speaker 1: of s vod as people uh in the industry cause
Speaker 1: screaming video on demand, streaming video on demand. I think
Speaker 1: ever it was definitely the most streamed piece content of Britain.
Speaker 1: Has taken the Netflix world by storm. Soul from Pixar
Speaker 1: also blew up. Um. So yeah, I just wanted to
Speaker 1: kind of give us a chance to talk about these
Speaker 1: things that are in the zeitgeist that we really haven't
Speaker 1: had a moment to yeah in a I mean normal world.
Speaker 1: Uh lot, what what is there to say about all
Speaker 1: of it? Wonder Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman came at such
Speaker 1: an important time. Uh if, Like Christmas was gonna be
Speaker 1: really hard for everybody this year. Actually I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: spand it beyond Christmas and go to the holiday season
Speaker 1: was a challenge. So many of us didn't get to
Speaker 1: go see people that we wanted to see. Uh. I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people who were single and have
Speaker 1: been quarantined by themselves continue to do so through the holidays.
Speaker 1: And here comes to Wonder Woman, Like out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: It's like a Christmas miracle, like something new to watch
Speaker 1: that you would have watched in theaters anyway. Probably, Um,
Speaker 1: it was gonna give you something to talk about, whether
Speaker 1: you liked it or didn't like it. It was really
Speaker 1: a moment of necessary normalness, like normalcy and a tide
Speaker 1: of craziness, just to be able to go on Twitter
Speaker 1: and be like, I did not like this movie. Tell
Speaker 1: me about why you did or did not like it
Speaker 1: was a flying didn't work for you, swinging from lightning,
Speaker 1: like oh god, reming not at all necessary conversation vital
Speaker 1: to my existence. I didn't like the movie that I'm
Speaker 1: so glad has that and like sold on a double
Speaker 1: feature on Christmas. It was awesome really like I liked
Speaker 1: Wonder Woman eight for I watched it after everybody come
Speaker 1: out and been like, what the funk was that? Like
Speaker 1: people were mad? Uh so I had extremely low expectations.
Speaker 1: I thought it was. I also knew that the uh
Speaker 1: central conceit of the movie was a monkey Paul wishing
Speaker 1: stone like that granted your wish and like so very silly. Uh.
Speaker 1: It like sort of took place. It took those superhero
Speaker 1: movies back to like the Christopher Reeves era Superman. Uh
Speaker 1: sort of level of sophistication, uh in that respect. But
Speaker 1: I just thought it was fun. Uh. And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought it was also like, you know, a nice
Speaker 1: childish but valid take on American capitalism that like, you know, people,
Speaker 1: I think that just by wanting thing, like having a
Speaker 1: want uh driven world is going to be okay. And
Speaker 1: then it's like, no, that's I thought it was a
Speaker 1: good like take on the eighties. Um, so I thought
Speaker 1: it was fun. I don't yeah, I think, like I
Speaker 1: said when it came out, it's like an airplane movie,
Speaker 1: I'm not invested enough in the franchise to have like
Speaker 1: a really strong feeling. I think it was more just
Speaker 1: like plot hole stuff that I think. The thing that
Speaker 1: bugged me the most was about that armor suit, like
Speaker 1: above all else, and I said it last time with
Speaker 1: first I'm like, how the fuck is that thing strong
Speaker 1: enough to take on like the collective power of mankind?
Speaker 1: But in a in like a fight with Christian Wig
Speaker 1: who's turned up to like fourteen, it's like it's just
Speaker 1: turning into like a paper sheet. But you know that
Speaker 1: yeah needed it. It was like to your point, Joel
Speaker 1: it was like nice to be like, uh, hey we
Speaker 1: have we haven't seen this fucking nobody has cool and
Speaker 1: not feel bad like like we're other films. I'm like,
Speaker 1: do I need to see this in a theater or whatever?
Speaker 1: I like, Yeah, fired up, let's go, let's just do it.
Speaker 1: Let's watch right, how please distract me from the craziness
Speaker 1: that was that time. Yeah, and you know, gosh, DC
Speaker 1: really knows how to do it first and second act
Speaker 1: and to get a movie, a superhero movie specifically, that
Speaker 1: is that tied into like the bright kind of fun
Speaker 1: comics we geared towards children like it hit a different
Speaker 1: type of nostalgia button for me that I really valued. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it reminded me of another superhero movie that I liked
Speaker 1: more than I think percent of the population, Superman Returns. Uh.
Speaker 1: I thought that was fun, but like it was it
Speaker 1: was like sort of a bright world that was dumb
Speaker 1: and like ultimately like a very flawed movie, but that
Speaker 1: I just for some reason, it just was a my
Speaker 1: eyes liked watching it entirely. Yeah. And then since we
Speaker 1: mentioned Soul came out on the same day, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't quite hit for me. I think in the
Speaker 1: same way like it was Wonder Woman eighty four. I
Speaker 1: watched after people had given me very low expectations Soul.
Speaker 1: I watched expecting it to be on level with like
Speaker 1: top Pixar movies, and it was. It was good, but
Speaker 1: it just wasn't like my favorite Pixar movie. Okay, but
Speaker 1: have you just listened to the John Baptiste soundtrack yet? No? God,
Speaker 1: that band can play a piano so good. It's really
Speaker 1: really good. I'm listening to it like as my nighttime music. Um,
Speaker 1: and it's been very helpful. It's just soothing, but also
Speaker 1: sort of like how's this up lifting? There's so many
Speaker 1: moments in that movie, the particularly when he gets into
Speaker 1: his groove, and it's sort of like describing like what
Speaker 1: it is to transcend herself in art, Like, wow, what
Speaker 1: a beautiful statement to make for children. I liked like
Speaker 1: the main character or the drive of all that I had.
Speaker 1: My issue was, um, I really wish we could have
Speaker 1: seen a heaven that resembled like a Black American ideal
Speaker 1: of heaven, um, because it would have been funky and
Speaker 1: fun as hell. Yeah, And I think that would have
Speaker 1: been like Coco got an interesting afterlife. I feel like
Speaker 1: we had an interesting afterlife too. That's right that it
Speaker 1: felt a little bit let Yeah, Myles, you mentioned that,
Speaker 1: like when we first talked about this, that you were
Speaker 1: hoping it to be a black black Cocoa. Yeah, I was,
Speaker 1: but then I like it, but then it got so existential,
Speaker 1: like okay, so then I can't really even judge it,
Speaker 1: like as anything aside from this narrative about our existence
Speaker 1: or whatever, because yeah, I was like, this feels like
Speaker 1: you could have where black Coco where I want that too,
Speaker 1: and that'll do fuck your numbers, y'all, are you fucking
Speaker 1: kidding me? The memes would be out of control, con
Speaker 1: troll out, it would have been insane. And the character
Speaker 1: design came pretty close to giving us like a lot
Speaker 1: of what was great about Cocoa, which was like, oh,
Speaker 1: here's a culture on display in a way that's easily accessible,
Speaker 1: similar to mo wanna um, and like the character design,
Speaker 1: and this is pretty great for a Pixar movie. Um,
Speaker 1: just a lot of details and stuff, but you can
Speaker 1: tell this was definitely the ways that we got made
Speaker 1: as a white guy pitched it, wrote it, and then
Speaker 1: they were like, we should probably bring in somebody black
Speaker 1: to like, right, and maybe co direct it. So they
Speaker 1: got the guy that did Um. He wrote the play
Speaker 1: One Night in Miami with Regina King, just launched on Amazon.
Speaker 1: Um fabulous writer. He put a beauty like he did
Speaker 1: the barbershop scene of course, and beaute a lot of
Speaker 1: his like father's like jazz heritage into the film. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like you can see
Speaker 1: where he got to touch the things on Earth and
Speaker 1: how they left and then sort of how they left
Speaker 1: the original script and contact with the yond Earth stuff.
Speaker 1: And I think they made it work. It's fine. They
Speaker 1: crossed the finish line and it was interesting and good,
Speaker 1: like really moved my parents. They really loved it. So
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna hit his audience. Okay, um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's definitely not up there on the top tier mantel
Speaker 1: of Pixar movies. It's no up or Finding Nemo Yeah,
Speaker 1: and pis are you still always Black Cocoa? Yeah, this
Speaker 1: doesn't take the box, just so you know, it doesn't
Speaker 1: take the box. But still I will say, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's scene about talking about like self expression and creative expression.
Speaker 1: I actually got kind of emotional when I saw because
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, this movie about sucking me up,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, like anybody who has any
Speaker 1: kind of creative medium, whatever they work through or like,
Speaker 1: has an outlet where you can truly go into that
Speaker 1: place where you're like I'm flowing, I'm zone in now
Speaker 1: and you can't you can't catch me like there that
Speaker 1: that's really like the way they described it connected. So
Speaker 1: immediately I was like, Oh, that was fucking really well done.
Speaker 1: But party is like our kids going to actually understand
Speaker 1: that this this ship is heavy, and like are they
Speaker 1: capable of taking all this ship on? But they got
Speaker 1: inside out, they'll be able to vibe with this. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's sort of a dividing line. If your
Speaker 1: kids were like, oh, inside out, I get it, we're
Speaker 1: having conversations about emotions, you would probably pick up on
Speaker 1: what's going down here. Yeah, there's a lot of good
Speaker 1: physical comedy too in the afterlife and people falling down
Speaker 1: and ship the and and when he is a talking
Speaker 1: cat that my kids really loved. I should also say
Speaker 1: I was like in and out on this because I
Speaker 1: was having to run around and do different ships, so
Speaker 1: I I didn't watch the sit down and just like
Speaker 1: take it in the way the filmmakers intended, so I
Speaker 1: also should my any criticism I have should be uh
Speaker 1: taken with a grain of salt. I would also say
Speaker 1: Bridgerton was also one that I was in and out on,
Speaker 1: so probably Yeah, it's a softcore porn, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like I need Netflix to acknowledge what it
Speaker 1: has created. Uh. That should come with a warning like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is a softcore porn, because this is definitely something
Speaker 1: I would have sat down and watch it like thirteen.
Speaker 1: It's not for your thirteen year olds. Uh. Inter teaming
Speaker 1: to a point, I always listened Pride and Prejudices, my bag.
Speaker 1: I love a Victorian era tail because and what makes
Speaker 1: those so good It's like it's just a long string
Speaker 1: of longing, like nobody is getting there's and it's just forever,
Speaker 1: like well they won't say uh, And this show was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, they will, and they'll do it again, and
Speaker 1: then they're a sexual assault in the middle of it
Speaker 1: that we're just gonna breathe by because it happened to
Speaker 1: a dude, uh, which was weird to me. I was like,
Speaker 1: we had to go back to that at some point
Speaker 1: because it's a problem and the whole romantic story following
Speaker 1: this event is now making me uncomfortable. Um, it was
Speaker 1: a wild ride. I would like more shows like this still,
Speaker 1: but maybe you know, a more thought in the actual
Speaker 1: structured writing of them. Yeah, it all ended on again,
Speaker 1: is he going to shoot the club up? And That's
Speaker 1: what I was like, And I found myself getting mad
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I'm only tuning in the next episode
Speaker 1: to see if he loves her via ejaculation. So I
Speaker 1: was like and then I was like, man, this is sucking.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like how it's been distilled to
Speaker 1: this one thing to describe how he feels about the person.
Speaker 1: And then I was arguing with her majesty. My partner
Speaker 1: was like, what then do you think? I mean he
Speaker 1: could still the dad's dead? What the fund does the
Speaker 1: dad know anymore? I was so frustrated by that. I
Speaker 1: was so frustrated by that character. But men are dumb,
Speaker 1: so like I could totally see that, like, man give
Speaker 1: a shit about silly stuff. And people have talked about
Speaker 1: it being like coming from a female gaze, which like,
Speaker 1: we definitely need, and I thought it was much more
Speaker 1: attractive than most softcore porn that has come in the past. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, like it reminded me. You know, it's a
Speaker 1: gossip like a gossip and fancy party driven society, and
Speaker 1: it reminded me of this tweet that I just have
Speaker 1: to somebody. Somebody said this tweet sums up liberal Twitter.
Speaker 1: Best d socialists said, this tweet sums up liberal Twitter.
Speaker 1: It's from Melanie Benjamin. She says in My Fantasies, Pete
Speaker 1: and Chason will have Kamala and Dougie over for weekly
Speaker 1: pot lux that Michelle Oh will crash with a bottle
Speaker 1: of wine and gossip, after which Dr Jill and Joe
Speaker 1: bring the dogs over along with some homemade brownies to
Speaker 1: enjoy while they all sing karaoke. Uh that that reminded
Speaker 1: me of Bridgetin for some reason. Can we talk just
Speaker 1: really quickly about a show that's actually good that's streaming
Speaker 1: right now that people can watch. Yeah, it's on Netflix.
Speaker 1: It's called Lupin. I don't know if you guys had
Speaker 1: chance to see it. It's originally a French but there's
Speaker 1: a really solid dub that won't tweak you out and
Speaker 1: take you out of the storyline. Um, yeah, if you
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it because we want we were watching
Speaker 1: Narcos Mexico and I got frustrated. I was just tired
Speaker 1: of not being able to look at my phone while
Speaker 1: I was watching a TV show, which is not but yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I need to take a
Speaker 1: break from subtitles for a little bit. I totally understand
Speaker 1: if you've seen the anime loop in the third, which
Speaker 1: is like very classic eighties like spy thriller that's based
Speaker 1: off of an old French book about um like a
Speaker 1: con artist slash Robin Hood type character who like steals
Speaker 1: from the ridge and gives to the poor and gets
Speaker 1: like he gets a real high off of like duping
Speaker 1: mean people or bad people. So this guy who's um
Speaker 1: Omar Si is his name. He's an immigrant from Africa,
Speaker 1: but he's been living in France for a long time.
Speaker 1: Great actor. You've definitely seen him in the background of
Speaker 1: a ton of your favorite movies. This is his first
Speaker 1: like stepping into his own like role in Space and
Speaker 1: he's crushing it. My brother keeps referring to him as
Speaker 1: a French interest Elba. He's definitely got that vibe of
Speaker 1: like cool black guy swagger trying to make it in
Speaker 1: a white man's world. And it's like super fun. It
Speaker 1: opens with him stealing up super expensive necklace from the
Speaker 1: louver Uh. There are car chases and and he breaks
Speaker 1: out of prison by pretending to hang like. There's so
Speaker 1: many cool like the old school spy things. Um, that's
Speaker 1: not once again Sherlock Holmes. It is so brilliant and funny,
Speaker 1: and the mystery is really well woven. I don't like
Speaker 1: a mystery where it's too hard. You're like, I'm so
Speaker 1: lost in this mystery. I don't even know what I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to be looking for. And I don't like a
Speaker 1: mystery that's spoon fed to you where you're like, well, okay,
Speaker 1: and now this happens. That's boring. It's really tightly woven
Speaker 1: mystery that keeps you guessing and on your feet. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to watch it without my brother, so
Speaker 1: we're only three episodes in, but I'm really excited to
Speaker 1: finish it when I have internet in a week. Brilliant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I used to watch like Upon the anime
Speaker 1: like back in because it was like the thing like
Speaker 1: my older because she was around like before I was born,
Speaker 1: and like you don't know what lu, And I'm like alright,
Speaker 1: that's how every black person gets into anime because he
Speaker 1: kind of because kind of has like a fade to
Speaker 1: your like is he does he have a lineup and
Speaker 1: a light scan what's Yeah? That was I remember looking
Speaker 1: at them like he doesn't look like the Japanese people
Speaker 1: I know, uh, but also kind of looks like the
Speaker 1: Yakas at the time that had perms and shipped to
Speaker 1: kind of have their hair curlier, so like it's kind
Speaker 1: of in line with that. But yeah, because now Lupin
Speaker 1: Is it's bigger than Bridgerton and Queen's Gambit, Like it's
Speaker 1: overtaking those on Netflix as the number one series and
Speaker 1: people are like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this ship is.
Speaker 1: This ship is a fully blown up So I'm definitely
Speaker 1: gonna watch that this weekend along with the other thing.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna point out, I can't Batman the
Speaker 1: animated series on HBO Max That ship I'm sucking that
Speaker 1: motherfucker is so good. Now I can people know if
Speaker 1: you know, look when, If you know, you know, And
Speaker 1: if you don't know, let me tell you probably remember
Speaker 1: when you were a kid, okay, because it was like
Speaker 1: the Batman cartoon in the nineties I remember that this
Speaker 1: this this season ended on my birthday, like in like
Speaker 1: ninety five or ninety four or something like that. I
Speaker 1: was like, it's over. But watching it again more so
Speaker 1: than like it being Batman or what ever, it was
Speaker 1: more the experience of getting back into something that I
Speaker 1: had not watched in at least eighteen years or something
Speaker 1: like that, and it was weird this The second the
Speaker 1: themes theme music came back up and the opening, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I like my brain started reconnecting, like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: the part where you're going to see the goons like
Speaker 1: their eyes widened because Batman is about to swoop on him.
Speaker 1: And then it was it was like time traveling watching it,
Speaker 1: and it was such a such a like wonderful time
Speaker 1: because I was just thinking of all kinds of memories
Speaker 1: and ship that was like really pleasant. It's also just
Speaker 1: fucking dope. Kevin Conroy is like the best Batman voice,
Speaker 1: and the animation is good, it holds up, it's you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's just some good ship to watch. I can't
Speaker 1: I can't recommend it enough because it's also it's like
Speaker 1: a it's really like as an adult, oh ship, look
Speaker 1: at what's Oh man Selena cole Wold not right now.
Speaker 1: It was like, really, it was amazing how I could
Speaker 1: still enjoy at the same level. So just another fun
Speaker 1: thing to to look back. But yeah, hell yeah, uh well,
Speaker 1: Joel as always so wonderful having you. Where can people
Speaker 1: find you and follow you? Yeah, I'm a Joel Money.
Speaker 1: You can find me all over the internet actual money
Speaker 1: gets j O E L E M O N I
Speaker 1: q U E M. And is there a show that
Speaker 1: you have coming out pretty soon? Oh? Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: Check around May the fourth for some Star Wars content
Speaker 1: coming your ways. Um sick interviews, some deep dies into
Speaker 1: the movies, the books, the comics, the animated series, which
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to talk about. If you have never
Speaker 1: seen a Star Wars, We're gonna start at the beginning
Speaker 1: for you. But if you're a Star Wars expert, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be going into all of your favorite characters. I'm
Speaker 1: talking Night Sisters, I'm talking Thrown, I'm talking people who
Speaker 1: have never seen a movie before. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Yes, And where can they get a
Speaker 1: sneak peek of what what that show might be like? Yeah,
Speaker 1: head over to the Fake Doctor's Real Friends thread and
Speaker 1: it's in all caps Star Wars Specials a surprise Star Wars. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's at the end of season three if you're looking
Speaker 1: for it. It's right for Christmas or not right after
Speaker 1: Christmas week Down uploaded it, so yeah, check it out there.
Speaker 1: It's basically that's just a me and Donald talking very
Speaker 1: broadly about some of our favorite Star Wars stuff. So
Speaker 1: give you a little taste before the actual series comes out. Nice.
Speaker 1: Uh And is there a tweet or some of the
Speaker 1: work of social media you've been enjoying? O crap, hold on,
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't been on Twitter as oh you know,
Speaker 1: but there was one from uh derren Nick Bird who
Speaker 1: tweeted Khalifa. Brower allegedly stole a backpack at sixteen, spent
Speaker 1: three years at Rikers Island without trial. Riley Williams stole
Speaker 1: a laptop and speaker post's office and tried selling it
Speaker 1: to the Russians. She was released to her mother. UM.
Speaker 1: If you don't know the story of Calif Browder, he
Speaker 1: killed himself out too long. UM. I believe after he
Speaker 1: was released from prison, he spent three years without going
Speaker 1: to trial. It was pretty tragic and so sweet by
Speaker 1: saying there are two justice systems in America. Black lives matter, um,
Speaker 1: and I read that to you just because you know,
Speaker 1: I think, as we talked about at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the show, there's a lot of people who were like,
Speaker 1: a new day, we're back to normal. We can all relax.
Speaker 1: Our normal was better before Trump. It was far from perfect,
Speaker 1: and so I don't want us to just go back
Speaker 1: to ignoring it. Yeah, it's yeah, truly, Like it's like, well,
Speaker 1: she looks like Daria, so then maybe we'll go easy.
Speaker 1: It's like she tried to sell the speaker's laptop to
Speaker 1: rush whatever. I mean. This is this is why like
Speaker 1: that whole insurrection ship was doubly exhausting, especially for people
Speaker 1: of color in this country, because you're like, Okay, here
Speaker 1: we go and watch them, watch them flex their whiteness
Speaker 1: to the point of like thing into the capital crazy
Speaker 1: miles work. Can people find you what the tweet you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying Twitter? Instagram at miles of gray and also
Speaker 1: four twenty day fiance just talking ninety day fiance the
Speaker 1: complete antithesis of the news. A tweet that I like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Christie Yamagucci Maine nudged me saying, hey, you
Speaker 1: might like this tweet, and I looked at it. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: let me see what this is. And this is from
Speaker 1: Chipped Front Teeth at Chipped Front Teeth. Uh. And it's
Speaker 1: like a like um screen cap of like a Wikipedia
Speaker 1: page for Ambassador of the United States to Jamaica. And
Speaker 1: you go down it's chat Hanks. Since January, I was like,
Speaker 1: this is so stupid Chat Hanks. Yeah, go go off
Speaker 1: the Hanks, Mandam pick them up. Uh. You can find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack underscore O. Brian a tweet
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying. Ellie Cram and Dal had a couple
Speaker 1: of tweets I've been enjoying one. She just reminded us
Speaker 1: that when the slebs made the Imagine video, we'd been
Speaker 1: inside for a week, which was shocking to me. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize that. Uh. And she also tweeted the idea
Speaker 1: of a quote cheat day is so dumb. I'll cheat
Speaker 1: on my husband whenever I want. Uh. Ken Clippenstein tweeted
Speaker 1: Buddha going outside wearing oven mitts and hopes of becoming
Speaker 1: a meme and then this is just a good idea
Speaker 1: at low underscore lifeer tweeted, it would be cool if
Speaker 1: you could just get a cup of hot broth the
Speaker 1: way you can coffee, um, which I know you can
Speaker 1: in some place, but like as omnipresent as that. Um.
Speaker 1: And then alight, that's fine, that's fine, that'll do uh oh.
Speaker 1: And then Steph McCann tweeted, oh is my eye cloud
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