Speaker 1: We're back, and so is Joel Embiid because his dominance
Speaker 1: has the Sixers back in the mix. Joel Embiid ever
Speaker 1: heard of him? Famous Arsenal fan and happens to play
Speaker 1: basketball for the Philadelphia most famously. Also rookie Benedict Matherin
Speaker 1: looks so impressive and the Nets may have figured some
Speaker 1: things out over on the defensive end of the court
Speaker 1: over there. We'll get into all of that and more
Speaker 1: with meeting and co host of the round Ball Rock
Speaker 1: podcast Shaun Keene on today's episode, I am Miles Gray
Speaker 1: and I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is Miles and you
Speaker 1: beat me. It's not a race. It's not a race,
Speaker 1: but guess what that time it was and you admit
Speaker 1: it and I win? Yeah he did. Um Sean Keene, Welcome,
Speaker 1: Welcome to Miles and Jack on Bad Boostie's Man. Thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on. Hey, thanks for having me on Fast anytime, anytime,
Speaker 1: anytime we're talking. Before we were trying to dial dial
Speaker 1: in your random lock it in, he said, you're a
Speaker 1: Warriors fan who has transcended into general fandom. I always
Speaker 1: like when people take this route. Yeah, it's because if
Speaker 1: you were a Golden State Warriors fan between like and uh,
Speaker 1: you kind of had to find someone else to full
Speaker 1: four when like April fifteen haastened and the Warriors season ended,
Speaker 1: and you can only think about which failed draft pick
Speaker 1: you were going to get for so long, so you
Speaker 1: just kind of had to watch just basketball in general,
Speaker 1: if you like, right, right right? I mean I was
Speaker 1: a big Chris Gatling fan myself, so yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: those years very fondly. Yeah. They they the Warriors used
Speaker 1: to have Marv Albert's little brothers, Steve, and he would
Speaker 1: always awkwardly call him the Energizer, and the nickname never
Speaker 1: ever caught on because people are like, hey, he's the
Speaker 1: Gatling gun like that. Yeah, that's a big one just
Speaker 1: sitting there for you. But hey man, you know probably
Speaker 1: all about gun control and decided to just go with
Speaker 1: some Yeah. Yeah, So Golden State came through and turned
Speaker 1: things around. And what were you sort of on board
Speaker 1: for the for the rise and was it was that
Speaker 1: particularly fun for you as a as a fan from
Speaker 1: way back? Did you get annoyed by the Golden State
Speaker 1: fans as well? Where where where were you at? I
Speaker 1: mean the individual thing that bothers me the most is
Speaker 1: obviously the fan base is just insane. But I really
Speaker 1: hate that there's so many venture capital tectro dudes who
Speaker 1: wear super crisp button down shirts to games, like they
Speaker 1: don't know there's gonna be a T shirt on the seat.
Speaker 1: And then you just got these guys like awkwardly trying
Speaker 1: to squeeze into you know, these like three dollar T
Speaker 1: shirts and like, you know what's gonna happen. You don't
Speaker 1: have to wear the crisp shirt to the game. Like,
Speaker 1: my favorite is the tech guy who last second bought
Speaker 1: a jersey to put over his butt up shirt. Better
Speaker 1: put one of these on when I go in. It's like, fam,
Speaker 1: if you would have pulled up in your jersey appropriate
Speaker 1: to tire rather than clearly looking like and I put
Speaker 1: this fan smock over my dress where yeah but yeah,
Speaker 1: oh the tax are still on? Yeah? Can you get
Speaker 1: that for me? Thanks? I gotta can I get this
Speaker 1: one with extra start actually be putting a T shirt
Speaker 1: on over it? And I don't know, I'm sorry, who's curi? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What thirty? That seems like a weird number to have.
Speaker 1: All right, cool, but Jack, you want to talk about
Speaker 1: the sixers a little bit? Over the last seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Harden went down with an injury. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it fully coincided, but the Sixers have over the
Speaker 1: last seven looked like Sixers of old, or at at
Speaker 1: least at the beginning of last season, with everything running
Speaker 1: through and d and Embiid doing quite a bit with that. Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw. He played against the
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz and hung fifty nine points on them, eleven boards,
Speaker 1: eight assists, uh, seven blocks and is that right in
Speaker 1: a single game? First player with plus ten, plus five
Speaker 1: plus and plus five blocks since blocks became official in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three seventy four. So so we say he
Speaker 1: put in a bit of a shift, huh. And he
Speaker 1: was blocking shots at the end of that game. It
Speaker 1: was like it wasn't cheap. There were five in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter though. One. Yeah, man, he he looks great.
Speaker 1: His turnaround is super locked in. I was saying that
Speaker 1: Jabari before, like it's not like he's added any new
Speaker 1: move this season, but like just the stuff that he
Speaker 1: does that is unguardable, seems like he just has them
Speaker 1: really locked in, which I think is good for him
Speaker 1: and the philadelp seventy six ers. He also against the Hawks,
Speaker 1: which they lost against the Hawks, but put up for
Speaker 1: you two ten and six, and Miles, you pulled the
Speaker 1: stat that Philly has outscored its opponents by fifty seven
Speaker 1: points in and beads on eight minutes and has been
Speaker 1: outscored by forty seven points in his thirty six minutes
Speaker 1: on the bench. So, yeah, this was my first time
Speaker 1: getting to see the Jazz in their full glory. Um,
Speaker 1: i'd probably I'm sure Jazz fans aren't going to be
Speaker 1: psyched that we're judging them based on a loss. But
Speaker 1: they are formidable. They are tough man, they uh Lori
Speaker 1: marketing hitting just everything that he puts up. He's got
Speaker 1: like a little hitch in his shot. He reminded me
Speaker 1: of Billy from White Men. Can't jump a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but just seven footer with super high release and it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to matter if anybody's on him. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say, Utah has been waiting for that type of
Speaker 1: players since Scordon. Hey, sure the one that was promised,
Speaker 1: and he has the one was promised is here. It's
Speaker 1: just wild to to watch now, how like every teams
Speaker 1: like oh okay, so now we got to address Lori
Speaker 1: Marken and and that's part of the plans now, and
Speaker 1: like that's I'm wondering how much they benefited. We're talking
Speaker 1: about this little bit before we started recording from like
Speaker 1: the perception of like, man, don't worry about them, We're
Speaker 1: gonna roll right through them, like we can show up
Speaker 1: ten minutes late to this one and still be fine,
Speaker 1: and like sort of having a reconciliation of like, well,
Speaker 1: this is what we thought we were up against versus
Speaker 1: them really playing now or you think a lot a
Speaker 1: lot of teams were prepared and we're just kind of seeing,
Speaker 1: like I'm saying, like, is there are they benefiting a
Speaker 1: little bit from up like slept on? Maybe yeah, they're
Speaker 1: being slept on. Not to take anything away, because they're
Speaker 1: clearly still like they're being pretty consistent, but I'm wondering
Speaker 1: if how much of that has fed into the whole thing,
Speaker 1: because going into this season, we're like, good night, Utah.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe at the beginning of the season, but
Speaker 1: at this point, I don't I don't think anybody. I mean,
Speaker 1: their third in the best and yeah, their point differential
Speaker 1: is second best in the West. Like they're they're pretty
Speaker 1: impossible to doubt at this point. I mean, sure, sure,
Speaker 1: I mean there's got to be something not great about them,
Speaker 1: right And I can't be saying that as a salty
Speaker 1: Laker fan. I just can't believe what I'm seeing right now.
Speaker 1: I just I just think there's something else going on here,
Speaker 1: but not it's it's nice to see the big finn
Speaker 1: doing it. I really think they're There's just such a
Speaker 1: vibes upgrade from not having your two best players loathe
Speaker 1: each other the way they did last year, and they
Speaker 1: were really not good after maybe like January last year,
Speaker 1: like they started very fast and then they stunk and
Speaker 1: it really didn't look like they were thinking. But they
Speaker 1: never got to the point where they got rid of
Speaker 1: the useful player, you know, like everybody got back in
Speaker 1: the Gilbert trade was a real NBA role player, and
Speaker 1: suddenly they had seven of them, you know, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it does raise the question I do. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people assumed heading into the season,
Speaker 1: their overall strategy for the long term, you know, strength
Speaker 1: of their squadron was going to be to tank it,
Speaker 1: try and get wem Ban Yama, And now I feel
Speaker 1: like they've crossed the point of untank ability at this point, right, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're too good. But yeah, I mean, I do think
Speaker 1: that we're seeing some sort of see change in the
Speaker 1: overall strategy of the league. And like you just pointed out,
Speaker 1: and Jabari was like reiterating, it was like all these
Speaker 1: rotational guys who are kind of plug and play and
Speaker 1: they just are making it work by being really great
Speaker 1: shooters and just like all playing unselfishly and we're I
Speaker 1: don't know, something just feels different about the the NBA
Speaker 1: this season, which is a very dumb take for our
Speaker 1: dumb podcast, but it just feels like we we used
Speaker 1: to have these gravitational like stars who all all the
Speaker 1: winds just kind of accumulated around, and we still definitely
Speaker 1: have that, but we're also seeing a lot of things
Speaker 1: work that hadn't hadn't really worked before. It just all
Speaker 1: bets are off, I feel like, and youth helps. The
Speaker 1: fresh legs seem to be helping. Yeah, and also just
Speaker 1: having a twenty four year old playing instead of a
Speaker 1: twenty one year old, you know, like those teams that
Speaker 1: aren't white tearing it down all the way makes it
Speaker 1: very different. Yeah. The nets are also so I mean
Speaker 1: we'll we'll lump them in with the sixers. But they
Speaker 1: started showing some signs of life after the Steve Nash
Speaker 1: coaching change and Kyrie's removal from the lineup. Obviously, um,
Speaker 1: but they hadn't given up a hundred points over that
Speaker 1: stretch prior to Sunday's loss to somebody. I forget who
Speaker 1: it was, but um, the l A l A Leakers,
Speaker 1: Oh the Lakers. Yeah, A d looking. I mean there
Speaker 1: are signs of life there too. Yes, that's what we need.
Speaker 1: We just if well, I like I was saying, I
Speaker 1: think in one of our pre production meetings, I was like,
Speaker 1: if Lebron can just take him aside and be like, look, man,
Speaker 1: I'm nearing, I'm going towards the light, and it's okay
Speaker 1: if you take up and play to the best of
Speaker 1: your abilities, I will not take offense to it. In fact,
Speaker 1: it is vital for this team that you play out
Speaker 1: of your mind. And he did say what did he say?
Speaker 1: He saw like an NFL game where like Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: through a touchdown pass, and he's like, I realized I
Speaker 1: had a lot of people counting on me, so I
Speaker 1: came out strong in that game. I was like, look,
Speaker 1: wherever you get this break, but please please get it somewhere.
Speaker 1: He's a Green Bay Packers fan. Yeah, and the Packers
Speaker 1: had an unexpected upset win over the Cowboys, and yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's what it took. Um. Yeah, he's he's had
Speaker 1: a lot of years where he's before the season, announced
Speaker 1: that he was gonna turn over the reins to someone else,
Speaker 1: like way back in the Kyrie days. He was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's Kyrie show, and this is the first time where
Speaker 1: I think Lebron really believes it in. It's like, it's honestly,
Speaker 1: it's got to be someone else's show right now. How
Speaker 1: how long do I have to carry I'm carrying to
Speaker 1: twenty years? Like, can I just be a playmaker for
Speaker 1: a couple of months? Yeah? Right, yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: just back back to the next defense. Yeah, well, first
Speaker 1: of all, Curry's returning to form. But yeah, Nick Claxton
Speaker 1: that there was an amazing block that I think we
Speaker 1: have a clip of of him blocking Paul George at
Speaker 1: the rim. Here we go fourteen rebounds. It's Paul George
Speaker 1: Claxton up block. It lasted George and Durants like all
Speaker 1: bought in on the defensive end durants like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I really love that's good. He's he's so good and
Speaker 1: he's such a great scores guy, but he's he also
Speaker 1: is just like bought in, like really cares about winning
Speaker 1: and whooping as he calls it. There was an awesome
Speaker 1: sequence they lost to the MAVs, but in the third
Speaker 1: four he just decided he was gonna shut down Luca
Speaker 1: and he just kind of did for twelve minutes. It
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I guess when this guy knows his
Speaker 1: job is this he can Uh, he's still seven feet
Speaker 1: tall and really really smart about best. Yeah, because like
Speaker 1: since Kyrie hasn't been on the roster their first in
Speaker 1: what defensive rating and net rating and how I mean
Speaker 1: like how much of it Because a lot of people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, this is you know, when Kyrie is
Speaker 1: not on a team, like sometimes the teams will get
Speaker 1: a nice bump and confidence or they're playing better or
Speaker 1: is it that Jacque Vaughan is just coming up with
Speaker 1: some nice defensive schemes as well, And you know how
Speaker 1: much what's the balance you think there? Um? You know,
Speaker 1: I think I think not I think Kyrie is maybe
Speaker 1: not the strongest and most intense defender. But sometimes when
Speaker 1: you have those like Multistar arrangements, it doesn't work as
Speaker 1: well when both guys don't completely buy in. Because Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant is kind of enough of an offense by stuff.
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and a bunch of guys who play hard
Speaker 1: defense and can make threes, that's a pretty good you know,
Speaker 1: you kind of want Kyrie for backup when Duran sought in.
Speaker 1: We does episodere thirty five every game. But uh, I
Speaker 1: think it's more just that they've got guys with defensive
Speaker 1: mentalities and um, you know this is sad to say,
Speaker 1: but Ben Simmons keeps getting in Finnel trouble, so he's
Speaker 1: not on the court that much. I think he'll probably
Speaker 1: get back. He's just really rescued. Yeah, a d and
Speaker 1: that Lakers went by the Way had ten offensive boards,
Speaker 1: which is just kind of like, I don't know the
Speaker 1: last time the Nets had nine as a team. And
Speaker 1: currently just under sixty nine percent of his points are
Speaker 1: coming from within the paint, and his previous career high
Speaker 1: with six as a rookie, So I mean he's getting
Speaker 1: in there, he's getting his hands dirty. I keep waiting
Speaker 1: for the Lakers to just like go on a tear
Speaker 1: um and maybe maybe I will keep waiting, but I'd
Speaker 1: like to see it. Yeah, but I hope it. I'd
Speaker 1: like to believe that I am. I too, am waiting
Speaker 1: for this tear you speak of. I really talked myself
Speaker 1: into Dennis Shrewder and Thomas Bryant really changing things when
Speaker 1: they come back this week, just because it's like it's
Speaker 1: none of those guys are awesome or anything. It's that
Speaker 1: they're basically knocking a G League or out of the
Speaker 1: rotation when they come back. And that's like Thomas Bryant's
Speaker 1: skill is that he's not Damien Joe, you know, like
Speaker 1: he's like, they're just adding more grown up to the team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at its stability, right, Yeah, and they're they just shouldn't
Speaker 1: be that bad, you know. Yeah, there's just you know
Speaker 1: what they think some there's some continued soul searching will
Speaker 1: look there and eventually they we'll figure it out. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk real briefly about our underrated performers of
Speaker 1: the week. We get a handful of really good candidates,
Speaker 1: you know, people who are bawling out and like maybe
Speaker 1: not getting headlines necessarily might be worth checking out for
Speaker 1: your daily fantasy or you know, redraft fantasy league if
Speaker 1: they're available, if you're in like a four team league
Speaker 1: like that show was that fantasy the league where they
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, it's an eight team league of us
Speaker 1: old pals um, but uh yeah, Janice is out. So
Speaker 1: Javon Carter put up career high thirty six, grabbed twelve boards,
Speaker 1: and a double o t win over the Thunder. Probably
Speaker 1: not a lot of people had that. Emmanuel Quickly twenty
Speaker 1: four point five assists, three steals off the bench in
Speaker 1: a game against Okay, see maybe be targeting, Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't know, yeah step one, are y'all playing? Okay? See tonight? Okay, right,
Speaker 1: But finally somebody that we'll we'll talk about a little
Speaker 1: more when we come back. Benedict Mathurin put up thirty points,
Speaker 1: including six of nine from deep, in twenty five minutes
Speaker 1: off the bench against the Nuggets. Um. This rookie who
Speaker 1: a lot of people have pegged for Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: It seems like he's paying off on that promise. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we can talk a little bit more about that. It's
Speaker 1: funny to see they quickly got to finally play just
Speaker 1: because the Knicks gave up so many points in that game.
Speaker 1: I think they gave up forty three points of the
Speaker 1: second and third quarter, And eventually Thibodeau was just like,
Speaker 1: I'm just not bringing these starters back in RJ. Barrets
Speaker 1: just gotta like sit on the bench. And then all
Speaker 1: the Knicks fans are excited because they're like, oh, Thibodeaux,
Speaker 1: he's gonna play these young guys. Finally he's gonna Benj
Speaker 1: havan Fort and play these hopeful young guys. And it
Speaker 1: was really because I don't think it's indicated to get
Speaker 1: a game. They gave up in that game, which is
Speaker 1: not great. All right, should we take a quick break
Speaker 1: and then come back and talk about Benny Math. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Benny Math, and we're back and it's time to talk
Speaker 1: about be Math. You know, first of all, Indiana is
Speaker 1: very are you exciting? Fun team to watch? You know,
Speaker 1: up and down, they make great plays. Haliburton is a
Speaker 1: great passer and it's great to see him like working
Speaker 1: with this new toy that he has in ma Thurn.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean there's a there's a great sequence
Speaker 1: where Haliburton comes down throws an oop to Mathur, and
Speaker 1: Mathurn blocks a shot at the other end and then
Speaker 1: hits Haliburton for a deep tray. Here we go. There
Speaker 1: the game's first nine points, led by ten and the
Speaker 1: first quarter. There's something about his leap on that allue
Speaker 1: that is just like he gets up so quickly and effortlessly,
Speaker 1: just all the wrong and I pushed you up quickly?
Speaker 1: Did the cowl because they missed it? Yeah, He's trying
Speaker 1: to get math and think of the game and they're
Speaker 1: doing just fizzing around. The ball is just fizzing around
Speaker 1: out there for the pacers making blocks. Haliburton and Mather
Speaker 1: and Mather and Haliburton. Oh oh man, there's some There
Speaker 1: are some guys on that team I'd like to see
Speaker 1: in different uniforms. But they look great. There's nothing I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about anything. I love Benedict matherin because Haliburton
Speaker 1: also is zero, right is that his number? Does he
Speaker 1: double zero? No? Mather and his double zero? Right? Oh?
Speaker 1: Haliburton zero? Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah, And I always like
Speaker 1: whenever I see that, I'm was like, I don't know
Speaker 1: why I get the biggest gig out of seen zero
Speaker 1: and double zero on the court, but I do. It's
Speaker 1: the small things for me. Um, he's shooting top five
Speaker 1: in the league of people taking six or more threes
Speaker 1: a game. The list is is is shooting fifty percent
Speaker 1: well taking six or more threes a game. Michael Porter Jr.
Speaker 1: Six Spencer dim Woody. Uh, Benedict Matherin. I've been calling
Speaker 1: him Mathurin for some reason. I think it's Look, it's
Speaker 1: a grab bag of pronunciations. It's good. I lived in
Speaker 1: mass when one of my best friends was from Methuen
Speaker 1: and so that's how I got And then Desmond Bain
Speaker 1: the Bain train forty five week. We'll give Bain. I mean,
Speaker 1: Bain just went down with a couple of week injury.
Speaker 1: But uh, like his injury is going to keep him
Speaker 1: out for a couple of weeks. Not it's a it's
Speaker 1: a week injury. Um, but we got to talk about
Speaker 1: him because that backcourt is devastation. I feel bad. I mean,
Speaker 1: just when like Triple J is coming back, then Desmond
Speaker 1: Bain goes out and I'm just like, oh, come on now,
Speaker 1: I want to see it all. I want to see
Speaker 1: them with all the shiny things playing together, because yeah, man,
Speaker 1: he's he's playing incredibly five and five jaws, putting up
Speaker 1: like almost thirty Like that's yeah, they're they're good. They're good.
Speaker 1: What do you think of that night? Yeah? I love
Speaker 1: that they made such a weird move this year when
Speaker 1: it was like they basically had, you know, like a
Speaker 1: win team last year and everyone kind of talked about like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, they could pull their assets together and you know,
Speaker 1: make a move for a veteran. They're like, no. Four rookies,
Speaker 1: the widest rookies we can find, just like we're just
Speaker 1: adding a bunch of beef to this roster. Basically, that
Speaker 1: seems like it's their their their m O is like
Speaker 1: just big beefy dudes who can shoot and dribble. And
Speaker 1: that's really the strategy you here coming down draft for Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just want bodies bouncing off of it. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: um but yeah, that's so. I mean, they remained super exciting.
Speaker 1: Portland's looks super exciting. The Celtics. I gotta give it
Speaker 1: to them, Mark, Like they I think they're like now
Speaker 1: atop of the East with Janic's going down. They're a
Speaker 1: evan and three as of this recording, and Marcus Smart
Speaker 1: just keeps like he he seems to. I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever heard somebody talk about somebody being really good
Speaker 1: at saves, like saving the ball as it's going out
Speaker 1: of bounds and like turning it into just a sick
Speaker 1: pass that is like leads directly to an open look um.
Speaker 1: But he had a couple against Detroit. One was like
Speaker 1: he's falling, like he's literally horizontal to the court, falling
Speaker 1: out of bounds and throws a bounce pass between the
Speaker 1: defender's legs that's like also an outlet pass somehow. It's
Speaker 1: so it's like disorienting to defend because like on the
Speaker 1: Pistons and like, man, this dude is about to fall
Speaker 1: out of bounds and then last gasp, he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's disorienting to watch, like I almost don't know what's
Speaker 1: happening as he does it. The Celtics got really like
Speaker 1: it was like, the Celtics are going to be what
Speaker 1: they are and they'll probably be good, but they were
Speaker 1: boring in the off season to talk about. And it's like,
Speaker 1: actually their two best players got noticeably better. Ye since
Speaker 1: they were in the finals last year. They're impossible to play.
Speaker 1: They have the best offense in the league, and last
Speaker 1: year they had the best defense in the league and
Speaker 1: feel like they could turn that back on whenever they want. Um,
Speaker 1: so that's a little terrifying to be in the East
Speaker 1: with them. Um Yeah, I just did you see that,
Speaker 1: Like that tech that Tatum got for clapping, like the
Speaker 1: last night it was such a weak tech day that
Speaker 1: they got overturned the next day. But I was just
Speaker 1: sort of like, I was like, wow, they that did
Speaker 1: not seem like the kind of tech I would normally
Speaker 1: be seeing given, But okay, I'm glad you can see
Speaker 1: guys getting text for clapping. Literally he did like a
Speaker 1: clapp It was like yeah, yeah, And he wasn't really
Speaker 1: even fear the rev either. It just seemed like it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It also wasn't like he was complaining about it was
Speaker 1: like a pretty obvious call. It wasn't really complaining about
Speaker 1: the call. He was more like, come on, Jason, you're
Speaker 1: better than that. Like team up, team up for that.
Speaker 1: Tatum is now the Vegas favorite for MVP. MVP. I
Speaker 1: mean deservedly so, because they look like they might have
Speaker 1: the best record in the league when it's all said
Speaker 1: and done at this early stage. Obviously, but um, and
Speaker 1: he's playing like top three best in the league. What's
Speaker 1: he averaging He's like in the thirties, I think still um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean they're they're scary. He also really
Speaker 1: wants to win MVP two. That's the difference between Janice
Speaker 1: is gonna rest and things like that. Hatum. It feels
Speaker 1: like this really has some group on this big team,
Speaker 1: right Yeah, Like every night he's like, I got boxes
Speaker 1: to tick Man. Yet one point nine is what Tatum's averaging.
Speaker 1: And he's also one of the best wing defenders in
Speaker 1: the league. I mean, I would say I would wager
Speaker 1: just because, like the league is honoring Bill Russell, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like reminds me of when Kobe passed.
Speaker 1: Like I think there's added I feel like there may
Speaker 1: be a bit of an X factor to how like
Speaker 1: a team plays when you're like, you know what, like
Speaker 1: let's let's do something for the for the franchise here.
Speaker 1: But not to say that that's the only thing that
Speaker 1: will motivate, but I feel like that feels like a
Speaker 1: little bit of added uh sauce in the mix too.
Speaker 1: For sure, Ye Miami, there's been some regression to the
Speaker 1: mean and in terms of you know, I mean Boston
Speaker 1: continues to win. Uh, San Antonio after a hot start
Speaker 1: has like kind of regressed too. They're still very good,
Speaker 1: they're still looking better than I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people expected, but they've kind of regressed down to where
Speaker 1: people might have thought they would end up. Miami just
Speaker 1: tore off three wins in a row. Jimmy Butler with
Speaker 1: a big defense to play on Booker block was so
Speaker 1: satisfying to watch. There's the final play Jimmy right squares
Speaker 1: up on Jimmy but Smart with his hands so close,
Speaker 1: like how close he is? Oh? No seconds? Why don't
Speaker 1: time out here? Yeah? That was my goodness. That is
Speaker 1: some sticky. That's some that you're glued on at that point.
Speaker 1: Like it looked like they were doing like the Lambada
Speaker 1: at certain point because they're hip. They were like hip
Speaker 1: to hip almost when he went up for that shot,
Speaker 1: it was a you know, Booker has been eating off
Speaker 1: of that move, just like you know, people guard him
Speaker 1: closely because he's a great three point shooter. Got one
Speaker 1: quick step and then you know, pull up jumper. He's
Speaker 1: a great mid rain shooter as well. And Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 1: It's to the point that the second Booker leaves the
Speaker 1: floor are with the shot, he's already kind of giving
Speaker 1: up on it because Butler is like so over him.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, this is getting blocked, alright, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna shoot this in such a way that I'll get
Speaker 1: the rebound off the block because yeah, well it also
Speaker 1: felt like the block almost broke his brain because he
Speaker 1: they had a time out and it kind of looked
Speaker 1: like to set up another another shot there, but he
Speaker 1: was almost just like panicked and yeah right, Butler chased
Speaker 1: him into another terrible shot at the buzzer. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's interesting when you see those
Speaker 1: guys kind of break down a little bit right there,
Speaker 1: because I'd imagine that block just completely just was like, well,
Speaker 1: that completely destroyed. I don't even know where to go
Speaker 1: from here because I was not expecting to be absolutely
Speaker 1: stuffed cross pizza by Jimmy Butler. But there he goes.
Speaker 1: It's that preseason wig That's what I'm saying. He's wigging out,
Speaker 1: speaking of just staying icy at the end of the game. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're starting to see or at least we're really starting
Speaker 1: to appreciate the at the death of a game, just
Speaker 1: some trash talking to a free throw shooter just to say,
Speaker 1: you know, you don't got to make these Let's get
Speaker 1: out of here. This is our this is our dumb
Speaker 1: pitch to the NBA for the week. And I think
Speaker 1: I think it's our our dumbest and best yet. So
Speaker 1: this is based on Embid talking trash to Laurie Marking
Speaker 1: in most recently, yeah, and Dame to Eat And really
Speaker 1: it's based on Dame to Eating and one of the
Speaker 1: first games of the season, do you want to play
Speaker 1: the clip? Yeah, let's play the clips? Okay, So the original,
Speaker 1: the original one this season was Dame Lillard getting in
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayden's ear just basically saying, you don't want to
Speaker 1: take these shots. And you know it didn't seem like
Speaker 1: eton did. So at the end of the game, he
Speaker 1: was asked, well, so what exactly did you say? Because
Speaker 1: anybody who saw the broadcast were like, you were in
Speaker 1: his ear? What was going on there? And this is
Speaker 1: what Damian said, only have you ever been in a
Speaker 1: situation before? Because it was not easy. You know, when
Speaker 1: you when you have to make the free throwers, that's
Speaker 1: not in because it's the whole game doesn't come down
Speaker 1: to one possession. You know, there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: that happened, but in a way, you know, you're looking
Speaker 1: at it like this is a chance to tie the game.
Speaker 1: So I just asked him, like I just wanted them
Speaker 1: to think about it a little bit, like, you know,
Speaker 1: have you ever been in this situation? And he ignored me.
Speaker 1: And when he ignored me, I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's thinking about it, like these these
Speaker 1: big free throws that There were also reports that he
Speaker 1: also mentioned something about like do you think your team
Speaker 1: wants you in this situation? Which you think you kind
Speaker 1: of think that next level. That's brutal because the implication
Speaker 1: is also kind of like do you think yeah, It's
Speaker 1: like the NBA equivalent of was like you know you're adopted,
Speaker 1: right like what like why are you saying that right now?
Speaker 1: And going from that like this And the latest one
Speaker 1: was Joel e Andbid, who I think had a much
Speaker 1: nicer version of getting in someone's head before crucial free throws.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we have audio of it, but
Speaker 1: in the final stretch of the game, and Be did
Speaker 1: his thing. Looked real confused and it looks like he's
Speaker 1: he's saying, hey, do you know how to get to
Speaker 1: the stage? Can we get out of here? Do you
Speaker 1: mind if we get out of here real quick? Uh?
Speaker 1: And it turns out he said, hey, I gotta get
Speaker 1: home to put my son Arthur to bed because he
Speaker 1: has a strict bedtime Lori Marken and ended up obliging
Speaker 1: and missing those two free throws. And it was funny
Speaker 1: because afterwards people were like, but the thing is Joel
Speaker 1: lied his son doesn't have a strict bed Like that
Speaker 1: second layer of commentary from people, I'm like, Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 1: That doesn't seem the most deceptive part. He just did
Speaker 1: a nice way of being like appealing to maybe his
Speaker 1: sensibilities as a father or someone you know, like like
Speaker 1: going to hear that and be like he lied to me,
Speaker 1: Like I take it back. Um, wait, you don't even
Speaker 1: have a son. No, Like that's kind of what it
Speaker 1: felt like. But yeah, so here's our pitch jack. What
Speaker 1: do we think? How are we turning this up? Each
Speaker 1: team gets one moment like every week, maybe it's every
Speaker 1: month if they don't love the idea, but those are
Speaker 1: our terms. That's it can be somewhere between. Once a week.
Speaker 1: Once a month, each team gets one moment where they
Speaker 1: get to take the mic for the stadium, the p
Speaker 1: A and talk trash to a player for fifteen seconds
Speaker 1: on the p A, presumably ahead of some big free
Speaker 1: throws or or just whenever. But you you almost like
Speaker 1: start having a position on your roster for whoever is
Speaker 1: the best at like getting inside people's head, like you're
Speaker 1: doing oppo research and you're like, oh, Lori marketing, I
Speaker 1: got some hold on. Let me go on my file.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, say the name Rachel to him over and
Speaker 1: Rachel thinks you won't make these based on some research
Speaker 1: and past field relationships or like or doing something more spectacular,
Speaker 1: like before the free throws, like the stadium lights go black,
Speaker 1: spotlight on one seat and it's like the person, like
Speaker 1: someone from this player's history, personal history that they can
Speaker 1: believe is there. It's like and here's your fifth grade
Speaker 1: bully mark and it's like, what's up? What's up? Stinct head?
Speaker 1: Still doing? Good man, He's like what and then good? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like stuff. We don't have to get fully toxic,
Speaker 1: but it's those subtle things. I mean, what other ways
Speaker 1: you think Sean are good? Just to throw someone off
Speaker 1: like efficiently at the last minute, what what kind of
Speaker 1: what kind of strategies would you deploy? You know, I
Speaker 1: think I think like the deep author research is good,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't even have to necessarily be real as
Speaker 1: much as just shocking. So I had a friend who
Speaker 1: did a roast battle and he's a he's a real
Speaker 1: good roaster, and then a guying went up there and
Speaker 1: just started doing jokes about how his wife was barren
Speaker 1: and couldn't conceive children, which was not true, but it
Speaker 1: disturbed him so much that he was like talking about
Speaker 1: it's so matter of factly, and the jokes were apparently
Speaker 1: killing but the whole time he was like, wait, she
Speaker 1: don't they don't And then like he got in this
Speaker 1: head and he was like, maybe, I mean we don't
Speaker 1: on any kids? Did she did? She tell me? Did
Speaker 1: this guy somehow? I mean, like really thing that just
Speaker 1: pretend you've done, like usingly specifically that yeah. Oh, they'd
Speaker 1: be like, you know you have three half brothers, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and need you right and guess what, I'm your brother.
Speaker 1: Then they hug for a long time. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: they come together like I know he wasn't there for either, man.
Speaker 1: I know, I know exactly what you've been through, and
Speaker 1: then he goes away. It's like, I'm not related to
Speaker 1: you at all, man, I would yeah, right, is he's
Speaker 1: taking the thoughts like that was all a joke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of professional wrestling that I think we
Speaker 1: end up pitching to the NBA. But I do think
Speaker 1: you could pitch a trade rumor that would be that
Speaker 1: would maybe bother him a little bit, just like, oh, right,
Speaker 1: you getting shopped at Detroit. That's kind of what Dame
Speaker 1: was doing, right with being like assuming he would say,
Speaker 1: like do you think they want you shooting? Like they're like, whoa, oh,
Speaker 1: we got a woes bomb. Look up at the screen, man,
Speaker 1: what's that say? You've been traded? Do these free throws
Speaker 1: even count right at this point? I mean, they've been
Speaker 1: so disloyal to you, what do you even know them? Anyway?
Speaker 1: Fun man, have fun? Alright, Well, we'll give the league
Speaker 1: some time to think that over while we take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll come back with the fastest segment
Speaker 1: in podcasting rapid fire. And we're back, and it's time,
Speaker 1: Sean for you to participate in the fastest segment in
Speaker 1: NBA podcast history. This is the rapid fire round of questions.
Speaker 1: This is how we close out the show. Just so
Speaker 1: you know, it's about answering as quickly as possible. Don't meander.
Speaker 1: Don't even allow us to meander. If we started to
Speaker 1: some buns in the hot seat, Yes exactly, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: So back to it. Don't think, just respond. You've got
Speaker 1: to keep this segment on point and fact paced. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, start the clock. Do you want to
Speaker 1: go first? You want? You want me to go first?
Speaker 1: I'll go first. Okay, here we go. Great, straight up, Sean,
Speaker 1: are you ready? Here we go? Doesn't matter because I'm
Speaker 1: giving you the first question. What is the best hypothetical
Speaker 1: slash not in game? NBA Jam Squad if you could
Speaker 1: bring some some duo in, who is it going to be?
Speaker 1: We did a little APO research of ourselves. Your shirt
Speaker 1: wearing right now? Uh, Benny the Bull in Dell Curry.
Speaker 1: That's fun, I mean deep threat Dell and then Benny
Speaker 1: the Bull is just chaos. He's a probably knocking people
Speaker 1: out of the way. Wow, you got the splash Brothers
Speaker 1: on an NBA JAM shirt on your on your person? Right?
Speaker 1: You know I do I do that? That would be
Speaker 1: pretty dangerous too. Okay, what to imaginary basketball players from film, TV,
Speaker 1: popular culture? Would you put any NBA jam squad EXTENSI?
Speaker 1: Oh that is good. Um, okay, the ghost from The
Speaker 1: Sixth Man Hardison's character. Yes, yeah, the ghosts just because
Speaker 1: you need the power of the supernatural. And then I guess, yeah,
Speaker 1: Dr J from the Fish you saved Pittsburgh, he's just
Speaker 1: Dr J. Really yeah. But then as partner, right, I
Speaker 1: was saying the kid from Thunderstruck, But I don't really
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the height even though he does have powers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there are supernatural things that actually not supernatural. I don't wanna,
Speaker 1: you know, distractor or antagonize any of our fans who
Speaker 1: are who are big into astronomy or astrology. But isn't
Speaker 1: isn't that like they start coming together with the help
Speaker 1: of astrology a little bit. Isn't the fish that saves
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh like a Pisces? Oh maybe he is? Um? Oh
Speaker 1: I think that is right? Yeah? Okay, so yeah, so yeah, right,
Speaker 1: And the coach of that team is Susan Miller from
Speaker 1: Astrology Zone, the famous astrology website. I do that is
Speaker 1: Neon Budo Shack from Blue trips. Yes, I couldn't remember
Speaker 1: the character's name, but yeah, he'd be a good super producer.
Speaker 1: Jabari picked Billy Ho and Dion Budo. That's very good Budo.
Speaker 1: All right, let him know, uh, Sean, we gotta keep
Speaker 1: this going on that it was like a half hour
Speaker 1: yet all right, most fun and impressive early season storyline?
Speaker 1: Is it the resilience Celtics team eleven and three? Is
Speaker 1: it Portland's leading the West at the time of this recording?
Speaker 1: Is it rookie head coach Will Hardy's Jazz at ten
Speaker 1: and five, even though many anticipated a complete tank other
Speaker 1: surprise us. I think it's I think it's the Jazz
Speaker 1: so far. Like it's it's such a fun, weird group
Speaker 1: of guys. And um. I also like that Malik easily
Speaker 1: got a revenge game against the Timberwolves where he basically
Speaker 1: just said I'm gonna kill them, all right, charming? Yeah, Sean,
Speaker 1: what are your top three basketball movies of all time? Um? Okay,
Speaker 1: white Man Can't Jump, um Love and Basketball Okay, and
Speaker 1: then I don't give me, give me some some options
Speaker 1: for number three? The Room h Yeah he got yeah, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: good good picks good picks, good picks. I'd had teams
Speaker 1: in there, but that is because I am broken, because
Speaker 1: I saw it too young, too many times, and now
Speaker 1: it is all movies are viewed through a team with Sean.
Speaker 1: What did we say about bringing up old stuff from
Speaker 1: the eighties? Keep keep me on track? Um, all right,
Speaker 1: you can travel back in time and attend any NBA
Speaker 1: game from history. Was the first match upper game that
Speaker 1: comes to mind? Um, I want to see I want
Speaker 1: to see the game in eight five where the Lakers
Speaker 1: to finally beat the Celtics. So I don't I don't
Speaker 1: remember if that's game seven of the finals, that's one
Speaker 1: of them. Other than that, it would be the Uh.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see that play Thompson Game six and
Speaker 1: so home tw Yeah. Yeah, it's like being present for
Speaker 1: a magic trick. Yes, yeah, ah man, there's something cool.
Speaker 1: But wait, wait, can you keep the secment going? Sean?
Speaker 1: Come on, sorry, I'm sorry me now as a convincing sidebar.
Speaker 1: Oh man, there's something cool about impedily snapped out of it?
Speaker 1: What the hell the heck's going on here? Shine? Keep
Speaker 1: their segment going? Man? What is a new rule you'd
Speaker 1: like to see implemented? Altered or whatever. What have you
Speaker 1: effective immediately in the league. And it can be realistic
Speaker 1: or it can be fantasy. But tell us what are
Speaker 1: you passionate about. I think that um, once a month
Speaker 1: a team should be able to lower in a rock
Speaker 1: and jock south basket. Thank you. This is the correct
Speaker 1: answer technology, and we've had the technology, so you know,
Speaker 1: you can't do it every game, but you get a
Speaker 1: couple in your pocket, and yeah, you know what they
Speaker 1: you know what they call it when a solution is
Speaker 1: right in front of you, yet you are just unable
Speaker 1: to to approach it and you just repeat the same
Speaker 1: mistake over and over. It's called cowardice. And I think
Speaker 1: that's what they' league is experiencing right now. Yeah, finally,
Speaker 1: tacos are pizza. The other one's gone forever. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I'm taking pizza. Yeah, Okay, there's other there's other cousins
Speaker 1: to tacos that are close enough. Oh so you think
Speaker 1: you can hack you found a loop? Okay, so what's
Speaker 1: your tacos? The tacos? I think it's maybe that I
Speaker 1: lived in Northern California too long before moving to l A.
Speaker 1: And I've just been a burrito person and so I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like, yeah I could, I could deal with
Speaker 1: like as tata instead, you know, right right right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: but what if it was pizzas or burritos, then that's tough.
Speaker 1: I think I might still choose pizza, only only just
Speaker 1: because I'm at a different point in my life where
Speaker 1: it is uh less, it just destress my body too much. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's all the style. Yeah right right, But if
Speaker 1: you don't mind, I don't think you realize I asked
Speaker 1: a question right after Jack's and that is not allowed.
Speaker 1: Really really get your head in the game. Man, finally
Speaker 1: got to ask you this, Sean Jack for Miles. Oh Man,
Speaker 1: can I pick Japari? Is that is that? I feel
Speaker 1: like that's taken the referee? Yea, it seems like it's allowed.
Speaker 1: Other people have done it. Um, so that's cool. I
Speaker 1: thought that was more. I thought it was more original.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, it would be real, you know, would
Speaker 1: be real original picking me some oh and thirty three. Um,
Speaker 1: we haven't done the segment that many times, and Sean
Speaker 1: didn't know. You know. It's it's cool, man, It's just
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to inflate these balloons all over again.
Speaker 1: That I have above me waiting to drop down when
Speaker 1: somebody finally picks me. It like you're Jerry West in
Speaker 1: the finals moment looking at those balloons that aren't gonna drop,
Speaker 1: and when you finally get that you're gonna is it
Speaker 1: gonna feel as good? Who knows? You're just gonna throw
Speaker 1: your memphist these m v P three year office window exactly. Well,
Speaker 1: Sean Keen, thank you so much for stopping by. Miles
Speaker 1: and Jack got mad boosts. It was a pleasure having
Speaker 1: you on. Man. Where can people find you and listen
Speaker 1: to you? And and all that. Round Ball Rock is
Speaker 1: the podcast that's at Round Rock on on Twitter. I'm
Speaker 1: at Sean Keen on Twitter. I read about the words
Speaker 1: Golden state of Mind. I read about basketball and Guard
Speaker 1: Barker and you can see me at the Hotel Paradox
Speaker 1: in Santa Cruz speak on Thursday. They're just staying there,
Speaker 1: just hanging out by the boots, hanging out by the
Speaker 1: pool up. I'm just partying. I got a room. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna trash. It's gonna be great. Come on so you
Speaker 1: can they can see you there tonight. It is that
Speaker 1: the day of the release. If you're in Santa Cruz.
Speaker 1: Get out there you can obviously. Oh I got to him.
Speaker 1: Where do you find us? Jack? You know? Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I was. I was just gonna say, make sure you
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Speaker 1: the Boosti's listener of the week at Maxwell. Jimenez wants
Speaker 1: to know why haven't we discussed the Spurs? You know what?
Speaker 1: He's right, yeah, right, we blew it. We love the jerseys.
Speaker 1: The jerseys are so I gotta say, I did not
Speaker 1: have the Spurs City edition as like the City edition
Speaker 1: jersey that I wanted to see. But it's it's dope.
Speaker 1: It's it's a very cool jersey. I like the you know,
Speaker 1: just a few simple choices. They're not overdoing it, but
Speaker 1: very so. How can we forget Peartle our favorite NBA
Speaker 1: word game and also plays for the Spurs. I means
Speaker 1: we got it. We'll get to them purd in the season.
Speaker 1: Josh Richardson like, I think I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people talk about some of the Jazz players being you know,
Speaker 1: spare parts from other teams. But Josh Richardson has been
Speaker 1: on every team in the past few seasons and he's
Speaker 1: but he's playing well. Um, we'll definitely to be discussing
Speaker 1: them further as the season continues, so you can't worry
Speaker 1: stick around Maxwell him and is worry not? Yeah, but
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