Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two sixty five,
Speaker 1: Episode one of Daly Like Guys Day production of I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Tuesday,
Speaker 1: November two, which of course means, oh Jack, it's it's
Speaker 1: the National Day of Giving, obviously on the n and
Speaker 1: then also Electronic Greetings Day. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: That means like a robot pulls up to you and
Speaker 1: it's like greetings, but it just says just it encourages
Speaker 1: you to send an electronic greeting. This feels like like
Speaker 1: this from or something. This was like to try and
Speaker 1: train baby boomers for the coming like email apocalypse. They
Speaker 1: weren't ready for sending an electronic greetings. Okay, what do
Speaker 1: you tell me? What what year you think this this began?
Speaker 1: Because they the answer is here in the description two thousand.
Speaker 1: In two thousands, it looks like it is coming around around. Wow,
Speaker 1: they were talking about Yeah, I said, not long, not long,
Speaker 1: not long after the advent of the electronic email in
Speaker 1: ninety three. The electronic greeting came along in ninety four.
Speaker 1: So then they were like, okay, we got something. No
Speaker 1: wonder baby boomers are so good at the Internet and
Speaker 1: you know understand doing things on Facebook and stuff. They've
Speaker 1: been training, they've been in the cutting edge. Well, my
Speaker 1: name is Jack O'Brien a K. I am ten percent
Speaker 1: gravycent yams percent concentrated honey, baked damn five percent stuff in,
Speaker 1: fifty percent pie, and a percent reasons I could lay
Speaker 1: down and die. That is courtesy a Scotty macdou and
Speaker 1: the Discord. Shout out to discord Zy Gang for surfacing
Speaker 1: it on Twitter. Man, I ate so much, so much
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving this weekend. I walked about it. I mean I
Speaker 1: must not about it. I was actually kind of impressed.
Speaker 1: I actually went out and bought extra gravy and stuffing
Speaker 1: the day after Thanksgiving to just like kind of keep
Speaker 1: the turkey rolling, you know, like it wasn't oh because
Speaker 1: you're like, I ran out of the other parts and
Speaker 1: I ran out of good parts to make the turkey delicious,
Speaker 1: and so I highly recommend add a little cranberry. It's yeah.
Speaker 1: I also kind of sucked up Thanksgiving dinner. It wasn't
Speaker 1: that good, so I had to I had to augment. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co
Speaker 1: host Mr Miles. Yes, straight from his uh turkey into slumber,
Speaker 1: he is up, woke up on miracle status. It's Miles
Speaker 1: full of gravy. I made my first turkey this Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: turned out really well. Actually, shout out, shout out, brining
Speaker 1: your turkey and that the secret. Yes, and then you
Speaker 1: got to put the foil. You gotta protect the breast
Speaker 1: meat because it overcooks. For easily learned. And made my
Speaker 1: own gravy, which I drank very diligently, so straight to
Speaker 1: the dome. Yeah, yeah, always yeah. I made Thanksgiving turkey
Speaker 1: the past two Thanksgivings, but didn't make it this year.
Speaker 1: And I am retroactively impressed with my great my turkey
Speaker 1: making skills because the turkey that we got from the
Speaker 1: grocery store didn't live up to the standards. Miles. We're
Speaker 1: through to be joined in our third seat by one
Speaker 1: of the funniest comedians doing it. You can check out
Speaker 1: his hour special on HBO Max Now. It premiered November eleventh.
Speaker 1: It's called Romantic Comedy. He's called Ian. Look what's up, hey, guys? Uh?
Speaker 1: Nothing much man, Thank you guys. For having me. I
Speaker 1: was a great intro. Hey, it's good to have you.
Speaker 1: It's good to have you. How's your Thanksgiving man energy?
Speaker 1: It was good. It was good. My brother just purchased
Speaker 1: a new home, so he wanted to hold Thanksgiving, so
Speaker 1: we went out there. I'm from New York. It was
Speaker 1: in Jersey. We did this. It was the first time
Speaker 1: we did this because if we are like a big family.
Speaker 1: We rented a tent, a heated tent, and it was
Speaker 1: just in the backyard. It was only like yeah, like
Speaker 1: a wedding style. Yeah, which was good because we all fit.
Speaker 1: But it's very hard to get like outdoor tent to
Speaker 1: room temperature, like it s either way too hot or
Speaker 1: way too cold. So like it was we were battling
Speaker 1: that all night, like because it has a heater, but
Speaker 1: the heater makes it a hundred degrees and you turn
Speaker 1: off the heater and it's thirty degrees right right right,
Speaker 1: So what what did you end up settling on? Like
Speaker 1: half like coat half on and then like keep half
Speaker 1: your body out the tent like every five minutes sort
Speaker 1: of thing. We never settled. We were just all uncomfortable
Speaker 1: the whole night. Like a turkey you were in a
Speaker 1: roasting bag. Yeah right, yeah, no one was comfortable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: outdoor tent okay, how many? How many? But I recommend
Speaker 1: I recommend outdoor tent if you want to keep people
Speaker 1: out of your home. Yeah, right, was about dirty people?
Speaker 1: Maybe thirty five people? Which is that? Because he was like,
Speaker 1: he was like, come see my home, but from the outside,
Speaker 1: right right, I'll give you the tour through the windows.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, is yeah, I respect Give me your phone,
Speaker 1: Give me your phone real quick. I'll record a video
Speaker 1: while I'm in there, and I'll bring it back out
Speaker 1: to you can look at it. Rude, tactical Thanksgiving hosting.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, all right, Ian, We're gonna get to
Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things
Speaker 1: we're talking about today. I felt like fascism had had
Speaker 1: a good Thanksgiving break for some reason, Like Elon Musk,
Speaker 1: just more and more masks off all about this fascism.
Speaker 1: You know, the ethical or no effective altruism continues to
Speaker 1: be a thing. So we're gonna talk about that. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about Trump's Thanksgiving dinner with Kanye and Nick
Speaker 1: fuent Tis as it relates to that, you know, plenty
Speaker 1: of that stuff that we're also going to talk about
Speaker 1: the latest addition to the Mandela Effect, a film by
Speaker 1: the name of Goncharov Goncharov, which I didn't know didn't exist,
Speaker 1: but apparently it's a movie that doesn't exist, but that
Speaker 1: Tumbler has put into the ether as like the latest
Speaker 1: you know, Shazam. I guess that's the most popular Mandela
Speaker 1: effect movie movie that doesn't exist. That right, that that's
Speaker 1: the one that's the one Mandela Effect thing that actually
Speaker 1: got me, like I I was able to picture the
Speaker 1: Sinbad but it's just you're just miss saying the name.
Speaker 1: But is there is there Sinbad Genie movie? Because I am,
Speaker 1: m hmmm, No, that's no. That's like, isn't it. Wait?
Speaker 1: Where you saying? Wait? Who? Who? Who's I'm always right
Speaker 1: right right, that's that. I don't know, you know what
Speaker 1: it was. I think because we were just talking about
Speaker 1: Simbad and how he had a stroke two or two
Speaker 1: years ago and we hadn't heard from him, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I forgot about him, to the point
Speaker 1: that I think I completely even misremembered the misremembering, but
Speaker 1: I'll always remember Kazam. Yeah, yeah, Kauseam for sure. I
Speaker 1: think I had subbed Sinbad in four Shack and changed
Speaker 1: the title of that because I I definitely see Simbad
Speaker 1: with his arms crossed out in front of him like
Speaker 1: a like a genie for some reason, even though I've
Speaker 1: probably never seen him do that. Anyways. Well, that's the thing, though,
Speaker 1: you you guys, that's like a thing. There's like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna get I thought it too, But I
Speaker 1: think that's the one, Like I think we should focus
Speaker 1: on that that it shouldn't be the Mandela effect. It
Speaker 1: should be the Simbad genie movie effect, because that's the
Speaker 1: that's that bearn saying bears gets brought up a lot,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that, But that that's the least
Speaker 1: interesting one to me because it's just to spell the pronunciation. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a spelling. It's yeah, I misspelled a lot of ship.
Speaker 1: And when I was a kid, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I loved Shock opposite Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jingle all the way.
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. Yeah, yeahs like they neither of them
Speaker 1: should be associated with the other but for some reason,
Speaker 1: my brain just made that switch. Anyways, all of that
Speaker 1: plenty more, But first Ian, we do like to ask
Speaker 1: eric guests, what is something from your search history that
Speaker 1: is revealing about who you are? Well, this is like
Speaker 1: a weird one because I I was told I need
Speaker 1: to get one. So I looked at like my search
Speaker 1: history long story showing I had my battery died in
Speaker 1: my car, like it just ran out, like the battery
Speaker 1: just died, and I didn't have a portable battery pack.
Speaker 1: And I was with a lady at the time, and
Speaker 1: she told me that every man should have a portable
Speaker 1: battery pack in their car to give themselves a boost.
Speaker 1: So I actually googled should a man have a port Fellas,
Speaker 1: isn't gay to have battery pack in the car? Yeah? Right,
Speaker 1: So that was my last search last night. Turns out yes,
Speaker 1: I ordered one and it just got here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember, like I remember in the early days when
Speaker 1: like my smartphone usage went up, and like I used
Speaker 1: to have a case that had a battery on it
Speaker 1: because I just remember there's no way I could be
Speaker 1: out and about get through my whole day and then
Speaker 1: have my phone make it and then as like the
Speaker 1: those like little battery packs became smaller and smaller. I
Speaker 1: definitely converted to have like I just have like whenever
Speaker 1: I travels, have one in my bag or whatever. It's
Speaker 1: it's very Yeah, it's useful. I'm talking about a big one,
Speaker 1: like to give your battery of your car battery and
Speaker 1: jump oh oh oh that big oh, like one of
Speaker 1: those emergency start emergency. I don't know why I pivoted
Speaker 1: to fucking cell phone anyway, It shows you how blue
Speaker 1: you were. You were saying, yeah, I've got an anchor
Speaker 1: external battery charger. I was when I dude, I got
Speaker 1: so mixed up. I'm thinking about my own phone battery
Speaker 1: was gonna be a dead battery, a car with a
Speaker 1: dead battery. Like, no, don't worry, I got this letter.
Speaker 1: We're good, I got this right here. Bring that truck
Speaker 1: over here, Like, where's the USB port for it? I
Speaker 1: do feel like a woman should have a portable external
Speaker 1: emergency battery charger too, maybe even more so so the
Speaker 1: so that they don't have to rely on some creep.
Speaker 1: So you're oh in that sense, yeah, yeah, she made
Speaker 1: it like a gender thing. I know it shouldn't be
Speaker 1: a gender humans just have a portable battery back. Yea
Speaker 1: man's got to have a code, and so so should
Speaker 1: a woman. Yeah, yeah, it feels it feels like one
Speaker 1: of those lessons like my mom would teach me, like
Speaker 1: as a kid, where it's just like and that's why
Speaker 1: you funked up again basically thing right, Oh wow, your
Speaker 1: battery went out where my mom was like, I told
Speaker 1: you to get that battery. Yeah, you don't know, but
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a lifesaver, like as I mean,
Speaker 1: I recommend everybody going Amazon hire of portable battery pack
Speaker 1: your battery. Guys, you don't gotta ask nothing. You look
Speaker 1: like such a man just going into your trunk putting
Speaker 1: out a thing like they about take care of this
Speaker 1: and you're up and running. Yeah, we don't save lives
Speaker 1: often on this podcast, but it feels good when we do,
Speaker 1: so I appreciate it. What is uh what something you
Speaker 1: think is overrated? All right? I've been on a thing
Speaker 1: about this. I think that people who order their steak
Speaker 1: rare like the Raws Farm, it's like very overrated. I
Speaker 1: don't actually believe anyone enjoys it. I think it's a
Speaker 1: pretentious thing where like you have to say you enjoy
Speaker 1: it to show how liquick your palette is. But I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone actually thinks it tastes good, like to
Speaker 1: eat a like a like a blue steak, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: like anything anything under medium. I don't think people enjoy
Speaker 1: oh so meat, so medium rare. You're taking that into
Speaker 1: so you're saying like, yeah, I'm like, you're this, you're
Speaker 1: eating you don't like this? Wow, Wow, I'm seeing I'm
Speaker 1: mid rare. I'm Mr mid Rare, and I have sometimes
Speaker 1: I used to be the opposite. I'm like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you're fooling around over cooking your steaks and things like that.
Speaker 1: Then my life became a little more complex and I
Speaker 1: realized there are bigger things to give a funk about them,
Speaker 1: being like how you get your movie, how to get
Speaker 1: your meat cooked. But I do think for me, it's
Speaker 1: more of the texture, because when it gets the more
Speaker 1: you cook it, it's just harder to chew. And that's sure.
Speaker 1: I'll take from there the flavor that's to each their own.
Speaker 1: I think I could take the texture I prefer. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think I think well done is crazy too.
Speaker 1: I think that's like there's no flavor or in the texture.
Speaker 1: But like, I think there's a middle balance for everyone,
Speaker 1: but people just try like and I like, I went,
Speaker 1: I've been on acause because like I've been going on
Speaker 1: these dinners like these you go on dinners with like
Speaker 1: agents or whatever, and you like see people try to
Speaker 1: outrare each other, like to show how sophisticated day hawk
Speaker 1: right right, right, So he asked for it extremely unhealthily rare,
Speaker 1: rarer than that for me whatever he did three minutes earlier.
Speaker 1: Take minds off, and like, I'm like, you guys, don't
Speaker 1: need to do this just right. We can order it
Speaker 1: how you want it. I do feel like that the
Speaker 1: cook is what like gives it a lot of the flavor,
Speaker 1: like that when when it gets cooked, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I am a medium rare person, but all the flavor
Speaker 1: comes from the parts that are cooked on the outside,
Speaker 1: and then I like the softness on the in the middle.
Speaker 1: I've had steak that's so rare. And this is again
Speaker 1: me just bragging and showing I've had steaks so rare
Speaker 1: though that like it's the rare part isn't even like
Speaker 1: soft because it's so do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like it it hasn't even been cooked enough to get rare.
Speaker 1: Like you still like you're like wolf mode. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: still like it's like chewy and like hasn't been broken down.
Speaker 1: I need it to be cooked, like I need needs
Speaker 1: to hit every part of the meat a little bit,
Speaker 1: just a little yeah, just a little bit. I don't
Speaker 1: want the fat to be like white. And did any
Speaker 1: heat get in here? Like the juices, you know, the juice, Well,
Speaker 1: I'll say, I'll say it's just overrated. It's not like
Speaker 1: medium is fine mediunco but yeah, let's not let's not
Speaker 1: race you who can get it more bloody either? Like
Speaker 1: some people like, yeah, how would you like your sir
Speaker 1: just called the health department on yourself. That's how Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's apparently I learned this. I mean I went down
Speaker 1: a rabbit hole with the steak stuff. I learned this
Speaker 1: the red stuff that to me, it's not blood. People
Speaker 1: think it's blood. It's not blood. It's just like water
Speaker 1: eat juice, like, yeah, yeah, it's beyond blood. What's what
Speaker 1: something you think is underrated? Oh I think I'm a
Speaker 1: I think cranberry juice is underrated. Like I'll order a
Speaker 1: cranbery juice people always think think you have a U
Speaker 1: t I when you just order crampberry juice. But but
Speaker 1: I I enjoyed just drinking a cranberry juice. I feel
Speaker 1: like we need to normalize ordering cranberry juices without ut eyes.
Speaker 1: Yeah wait, just on ice, little soda, Yeah, just on ice.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, just on ice. Okay. And then is that
Speaker 1: like is that you at a bar and then you're like,
Speaker 1: you don't want to drink, so you get the mixer
Speaker 1: or do you even look You're like, no, there's this one.
Speaker 1: I'll go to the store to get a kind of
Speaker 1: cranberry juice. That's a nice zipper. Both both like if
Speaker 1: I don't want to drink, I'll get a cranberry juice.
Speaker 1: I'll have a cranberry juice with like dinner, I'll have
Speaker 1: a Like anytime juice is around, I'm like, it's your
Speaker 1: cranberry juice. Wow, it's like wine or something. You're like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm putting in a chalice. Yeah yeah, he's cranberries coming
Speaker 1: from Boston. Notes of the bog there's yeah. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's definitely one of the more complex juice. There's
Speaker 1: definitely one of the more allowable juices, Like you can't
Speaker 1: order apple juice at a steak restaurant, I feel like,
Speaker 1: but oh yeah no unless you're a child, you know.
Speaker 1: But even then, even then they're like, get the wine. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. I'm gonna try that. I just want
Speaker 1: to have a glass of cranberry juice and a wine
Speaker 1: goblet and wine. Yeah, just you know, because we just
Speaker 1: are our last guest too. That was on yesterday Row
Speaker 1: and he was talking about how like he's like, man,
Speaker 1: red wine is so overrated. He's like, it's just too complex.
Speaker 1: You drink it with stuff. And he's like a big
Speaker 1: food guy to say, like the experience of like having
Speaker 1: to drink super complex red wine with food is just
Speaker 1: a little weird and like kind of you know, there's
Speaker 1: there's better ways. There's better ways to enjoy wine. And
Speaker 1: you're a red wine guy, right, I'm a I'm a
Speaker 1: red wine guy. Yeah. Talked about that especial Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I uh yeah. I love a red wine. I got
Speaker 1: into it during the pandemic, okay see, and like just
Speaker 1: like you understanding when will when will the rappers embrace
Speaker 1: their wine drinking and let that let that come out
Speaker 1: in the lyrics because we see like so many players
Speaker 1: in the NBA, they're like, we love red, like they're
Speaker 1: becoming wine. Yeah it's a thing now yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: to this point, I feel like the Beastie Boys are
Speaker 1: only people to wrap Chateauneuf to pop in their lyrics.
Speaker 1: So maybe you know, we can have I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what snow Oh he does. Yeah he
Speaker 1: has nineteen He has a thing of nineteen crimes. He
Speaker 1: has his own. Uh yeah that's right. See bring that
Speaker 1: in the verses, Snoop Yeah, yeah, Snoop can get away
Speaker 1: with whatever he wants because he's like such a connoisseur
Speaker 1: of of weed that everyone's just like, yeah, has anyone
Speaker 1: actually tasted nineteen Crimes? It's might be drinking it. I
Speaker 1: I like nineteen Crimes. There's like my favorite, like low
Speaker 1: like sheep. So it is good, Okay, that's what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to find out. Yeah, yeah, it's it's good. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good. It's good. Yeah, people drinking people like it.
Speaker 1: Mhm alright, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about some news, and we're back and yeah,
Speaker 1: so over over the long weekend over Thanksgiving, I just
Speaker 1: felt like, I don't know, this isn't like a lot
Speaker 1: of people are reacting to the fact that Elon Musk
Speaker 1: is kind of coming out and starting to ban anti
Speaker 1: fascist groups, let all the fascists back on, just like
Speaker 1: basically coming coming out of the closets a full fledged
Speaker 1: like right wing. Some people are calling him a right
Speaker 1: wing troll, but it really feels like he's at the
Speaker 1: spearhead now of this like new fascist movement. We also
Speaker 1: talked about the effective altruism, which is basically a giant
Speaker 1: venture capital backed philosophy that focuses on the potential dangers
Speaker 1: of the robot apocalypse instead of climate change because people
Speaker 1: from poor countries lives don't matter as much according to
Speaker 1: their philosophy. Any Lamas came out and has said, like,
Speaker 1: that's actually one of this is a pretty good match
Speaker 1: for my philosophy, And it all just feels like it
Speaker 1: is this big superstructure of like extremely wealthy people like intermingling.
Speaker 1: You know, the venture capital's philosophy is obviously going to
Speaker 1: be influenced by the fact that the people who make
Speaker 1: the most money to this day are fossil fuel companies,
Speaker 1: and so you know, the wherever the money is that
Speaker 1: is that's where like the gravitational pool of truth goes
Speaker 1: full or a lot of people. And you know, that
Speaker 1: brings us to Elon Musk, who's the wealthiest person in
Speaker 1: the world, and according to American philosophy, you know, America's
Speaker 1: mythos is basically like, well, if he's the richest, then
Speaker 1: he's the most right. And he's you know, if you
Speaker 1: if you were so smart, why aren't you as rich
Speaker 1: as him? And I do it's easy to like dismiss
Speaker 1: all the super famous people who are either like flirting
Speaker 1: with or like fully embracing fascism, but it it just
Speaker 1: it does feel like we're in a worst place than
Speaker 1: we were than we've ever been with regards to the
Speaker 1: rise of fascism. Now that he's taken over Twitter is
Speaker 1: like openly using Twitter as a tool to kind of
Speaker 1: institute instill his values. Has still has a huge following
Speaker 1: of people who, you know, I've had relatives who are
Speaker 1: like Elan Musk is talking about the brain on that guy.
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're not they're not like, I'm all
Speaker 1: about his philosophy and his politics, but they do think
Speaker 1: because of how rich he is, he is like the
Speaker 1: smartest among us. And it's just like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of really significant, powerful people who are kind of coming
Speaker 1: together and cohering around this overall fascist movement. I think
Speaker 1: it's yeah, there's so much of it. To me. That's
Speaker 1: like like especially from people like the effect of Altruism
Speaker 1: movement and other like hyper wealthy people. It's more I
Speaker 1: don't even they don't realize what that they're they're sort
Speaker 1: of drifting towards fascism. I think the way they look
Speaker 1: at it is, man, poor people are tripping, right, and
Speaker 1: we got to figure out how to get ahead of
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff. Like and that's why like
Speaker 1: effective altruism is a way to be like, well, when
Speaker 1: automation takes all their jobs, what do we do with
Speaker 1: all the poor people that will be tripping because there's
Speaker 1: not going to be the same levels of opportunity, etcetera.
Speaker 1: So we need to find a way to to sort
Speaker 1: of I don't know, soften that landing because that is
Speaker 1: the like that is the nightmare scenario or a lot
Speaker 1: of these industries that are like trying to automate and
Speaker 1: then with a flick of a switch, they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to mostly automated and we don't really have
Speaker 1: a plan for all the people who don't have jobs anymore.
Speaker 1: Or like with Twitter, it's like you see how a
Speaker 1: lot of like activists people on Twitter are bringing more
Speaker 1: you know, consciousness to like cash bail problems in New York,
Speaker 1: or police brutality in l A deputy gangs and things
Speaker 1: like that, and just in general, it's like, I think
Speaker 1: they want to really rebalance the scales in terms of
Speaker 1: who's getting to speak, so it's easier now, like they're
Speaker 1: all sort of coalescing around each other who are similarly
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, there's a there is sort of a
Speaker 1: movement we need to blunt because whether it's look people
Speaker 1: looking for increased wages or just equitable rights and things
Speaker 1: like that, that there's that there's like a there's momentum
Speaker 1: that they're up a sense that clearly is you know,
Speaker 1: something they want to push back against. Yeah, at the
Speaker 1: very least, they're giving the wealthiest people and like wealthiest
Speaker 1: companies in the world, like giant fossil fuel companies, a
Speaker 1: fashionable and acceptable and already extremely well funded alternative to
Speaker 1: the version of reality where they have caused the vast
Speaker 1: majority of climate change that is like killing you know,
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people, and you know, this is
Speaker 1: an alternative where it's like, no, it's actually not that bad.
Speaker 1: And you know this this worldview has has come through
Speaker 1: that will support those ideals. And in the same way
Speaker 1: that eugenics was very popular at the turn of the
Speaker 1: twentieth century, even in like academic circles, like in the
Speaker 1: early nineteen hundreds, like that was the thing that was
Speaker 1: popular with academics at like these major highly respected institutions.
Speaker 1: And the head of this effective altruism movement is like
Speaker 1: at Oxford and is you know, the youngest philosophy professor
Speaker 1: at Oxford that that the Oxford has ever like granted
Speaker 1: that position. Also he he just released his new book,
Speaker 1: or I guess he released it a while back, but
Speaker 1: somebody did a review of his because they were like,
Speaker 1: it's weird how much how quickly he like blows past
Speaker 1: climate change as a threat to humanity, and they like
Speaker 1: went and reached out to all of his sources for
Speaker 1: all those claims, like he he's like and I consulted
Speaker 1: all these major climate scientists on to back me up here,
Speaker 1: and they actually reached out to those climate scientists, and
Speaker 1: they're like, we don't know this guy. We we have
Speaker 1: no no clue who he is. He didn't reach out
Speaker 1: to us for any of he didn't reach out to
Speaker 1: us about the important claim that, like, you know, even
Speaker 1: ten degrees of warming is not big deal. So I
Speaker 1: mean he's he's a fraud, but again not one who
Speaker 1: will be found out anymore than Elon Musk will be.
Speaker 1: Elon Musk is just retweeting right wing talking points, like
Speaker 1: he had the one about like stay work, stay woke
Speaker 1: shirts stem from the Ferguson protests. Obama's own d o
Speaker 1: J proved this and exonerated the cop hands up, don't
Speaker 1: shoot with shoot was made up. The whole thing was
Speaker 1: a fiction, like just like straightforward right wing shit, like
Speaker 1: some some ship about you know, he responded to a
Speaker 1: story about immigration with like a right wing talking point.
Speaker 1: He and then he's just banning all these anti fascists
Speaker 1: like accounts in a way that's like, yeah, he's not
Speaker 1: even really trying to hide it, and it is tough
Speaker 1: to take seriously because it's like he's so he's just
Speaker 1: the worst poster in the history of Twitter, Like he
Speaker 1: just like responds with crying laughing emojis over and over.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I like, growing up in
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties, it was always one of the
Speaker 1: weirdest possibilities to imagine is that like famous mainstream pop
Speaker 1: culture icons who host SNL would be embracing fascism or
Speaker 1: at least would be like, you know, not willing to
Speaker 1: disavow it and you know, getting on board. And I guess,
Speaker 1: like early twentieth century you had like Henry Ford and
Speaker 1: Charles Lindberg and possibly Walt Disney. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's time to admit that that's where we're at.
Speaker 1: We're kind of at the height of fascism's popularity in
Speaker 1: the U S. And it's it's like a growing movement.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well that's time. I think that's why it's
Speaker 1: able to it's it's not it doesn't have like big
Speaker 1: capital f fascism, like the look to it where a
Speaker 1: lot of people are just splintering offers like I like
Speaker 1: this guy, oh and they don't. Okay, I'm I'm with
Speaker 1: this guy because I like what he says, I like
Speaker 1: what they do. Then that's I'm more focused on that
Speaker 1: than what is it's what it's actually encompassing, like the
Speaker 1: fact that Elon Musk like has no real consistent definition
Speaker 1: of what like freedom of speech or censorship is, and
Speaker 1: he's just acting, you know, he's just reacting to ship
Speaker 1: based on people talking on him on his own map,
Speaker 1: and then suddenly people get these twenty four hour bands.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow. But I mean I think the jet the
Speaker 1: broad like mainstream media narrative right now is like that
Speaker 1: the energy is flagging, right, that like Trump, the mainstream
Speaker 1: Republican party doesn't want Trump around, and that there was
Speaker 1: some meal where he met with Nick Fuentes, who is
Speaker 1: like all the all the parts of fascism like anti
Speaker 1: semi hate speech, pro authoritarian, and yeah, this is he.
Speaker 1: He just had had a meal with him, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: They So the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, Nick Flintes and Kanye
Speaker 1: West go over there to have dinner. This is apparently
Speaker 1: where I don't know if you saw Kanye posted like
Speaker 1: some post like meet up video where allegedly Trump, I guess,
Speaker 1: get up on him and he's like, Yo, you don't
Speaker 1: want to run for president and basically you will you
Speaker 1: would just get crushed, my man. And he was like,
Speaker 1: and why would he do that, you know, because I'm
Speaker 1: a loyalist, and then he went on ranting about some nonsense.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm so I'm not really surprised that Trump
Speaker 1: met with them, because it's further into indication he's just
Speaker 1: trying to see what kind of base he can create
Speaker 1: on his way to another presidential run. And I think
Speaker 1: most people know obviously about Kanye's worldview at this point,
Speaker 1: but Nick Flinte is a completely different quantity altogether. Like
Speaker 1: he is a consistent holocaust denier. Recently said we played
Speaker 1: a clip of him recently after the mid terms or
Speaker 1: he would like when the Republicans didn't win, He's like,
Speaker 1: you know what, if they're not with what the Republicans think,
Speaker 1: we just need to we just need to force them
Speaker 1: into believe in what we believe, and we just need
Speaker 1: to take the power back. And I don't care if
Speaker 1: they outnumber us. We just need to force people into
Speaker 1: believing this so we can just move forward with our
Speaker 1: like sort of ethno nationalistic worldview. And you know, apparently
Speaker 1: the meeting went really well because Nick Flinta is just
Speaker 1: like yes and died everything Trump said and then praised
Speaker 1: everything he did, like this was an actual actual exchange
Speaker 1: based on some of the reporting from what happened at
Speaker 1: mar Lago. Like Trump was, I guess complaining about man,
Speaker 1: my all these advisors, they want me to speak on
Speaker 1: a teleprompter. They don't let me just they don't let
Speaker 1: me freestyle like I used to when I would just
Speaker 1: say all the kind of off the wild stuff. And
Speaker 1: apparently he he asked Wins quote you like it better
Speaker 1: when I just speak off the cuff, like he asked
Speaker 1: nick as that you didn't do that, and apparently Flina
Speaker 1: said it wasn't It was amazing when the president was
Speaker 1: quote unrestrained. So meanwhile, like the other politicians on the
Speaker 1: right acted surprise, presumably because they got confused whether or
Speaker 1: not they were speaking in public or not about you know,
Speaker 1: discrimination or things like that. Mike Pompeo was like, anti
Speaker 1: Semitism is a cancer. Asa Hutchinson, who's also running for president,
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't think it's a good idea for
Speaker 1: a leader that's setting an example for the country or
Speaker 1: a party to meet with an avowed racist or anti
Speaker 1: semit Kevin McCarthy potential speaker crick gets but Trump, he
Speaker 1: did just say anything he'd just say, And a lot
Speaker 1: of people are just like, well, you know, we did.
Speaker 1: We do this all the time with him when he
Speaker 1: meets with like literal like clan members or like you know,
Speaker 1: the ghost of Hitler. But Trump defended the meeting. He's
Speaker 1: saying he didn't know Flintest. He's like, oh, I don't
Speaker 1: know him. But Trump does that all the time when
Speaker 1: he meets with like white supremacies, like, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I've never seen this person before, the person who I
Speaker 1: posed with the pictures all the time, which is obviously
Speaker 1: bullshit because you can't just pull up to eat tenner
Speaker 1: with a president without the fucking secret surface like knowing
Speaker 1: who doing deep bund on it. And then this was
Speaker 1: they've all they've met before, so it's not yeah, and
Speaker 1: he's retweeted his videos. Then Trump said this too, because
Speaker 1: they're time man you met up with Kanye was going
Speaker 1: on with that, he said quote he said, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to help this trouble young man out. He said, quote,
Speaker 1: So I helped the seriously troubled man who just happens
Speaker 1: to be black. I'm wait, what what is that part
Speaker 1: of the quote? And then he said, yea who has
Speaker 1: been decimated in his business and virtually everything else. And
Speaker 1: it's always been good to me by allowing his request
Speaker 1: for me to meet marl Lago alone. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: He said you wanted to give him advice. So yeah,
Speaker 1: very very very wild things going on. But it looks
Speaker 1: like these power hungry, like people like Nick flent As,
Speaker 1: who again he said Trump wasn't extreme enough. That used
Speaker 1: to be his complaint when Trump was in power, was like,
Speaker 1: he's like, man, Trump's playing around with all this ship,
Speaker 1: like he needs to turn it up. Now. They found
Speaker 1: a way to charm the old man who's going to
Speaker 1: be running for president. So you know, starting to see
Speaker 1: things alive. Mm hmm. So hey, Kanye Trump ticket like
Speaker 1: them them running together, probably says unlikely at this point.
Speaker 1: He's apparently that's what Kanye said to him. He's like,
Speaker 1: you should, we should run together, and Trump's like, no,
Speaker 1: you will, you would be destroyed the way. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't believe anybody when they say
Speaker 1: what happened in this meeting, But like it seems like
Speaker 1: the one consistent thing based on the reporting is Trump
Speaker 1: tried to very much discourage him from running mm hmm, yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I think they have the same kind of
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think the bases into torn with
Speaker 1: each other's ride. I think Trump is like, hey man,
Speaker 1: you're just gonna take votes away from me and you're
Speaker 1: not gonna win, so and Kandie is like votes, who
Speaker 1: needs Yeah, He's like I'm on a Vibe ticket, Like okay,
Speaker 1: uh sure, But I mean I think we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens because you can also see like if Nick Fuentez
Speaker 1: is now looking at Kanye and thinking, oh, I can
Speaker 1: use this, you know, this person as another vessel to
Speaker 1: spread like whatever my messaging is, and like maybe I
Speaker 1: can run with him whatever. But it's just a very
Speaker 1: You've got an interesting mix of people who are looking
Speaker 1: for power or ways to maintain it. And when you
Speaker 1: have people like Nick Fuentez who like apparently just knows
Speaker 1: how to charm Donald Trump, when like the previous White
Speaker 1: House they had like entire departments built on like keeping
Speaker 1: these people away from Trump because he's so easily flattered.
Speaker 1: You don't know, you know, who knows what the rhetoric
Speaker 1: looks like this next campaign. It's not that difficult of
Speaker 1: an art to master. You just agree with everything he
Speaker 1: says and tell tell him he's the greatest. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I think it's a low I think it's a
Speaker 1: very low bar to like charm, like an elderly old
Speaker 1: white man who's like somewhat powerful. Who Donald, Baby, whoa? Whoa?
Speaker 1: I want to get like you, Donald, toilet the toilet
Speaker 1: gold man? Hold, I get my phone now, man, the
Speaker 1: toilet gold in here. Man. You're doing it right, Donald, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm doing it right. You know, you know fairness. I
Speaker 1: feel like it hasn't been tested like against Donald has
Speaker 1: been tested, like because we see people just complex, like
Speaker 1: you have to give him three compliments before you actually
Speaker 1: say any type of opinion on anything he's done. You
Speaker 1: have to congratulate him and get three compliments to compliment
Speaker 1: dag Wood. Right, you've never seen it applied to somebody else, Like,
Speaker 1: what if that actually works with everyone? We just never
Speaker 1: seen it. We just think we just think it's only Trump.
Speaker 1: But what if I was like, you know, this is like,
Speaker 1: you guys are the king of podcasting. I the best
Speaker 1: thing other than part have you just opened up every
Speaker 1: interview just giving a thousand compliments and see how heart
Speaker 1: it is for you not to feel flattered and be like,
Speaker 1: I like this guy. He's not a bad guy. Oh,
Speaker 1: it definitely works. It's just it's at a certain point
Speaker 1: you have to be able to differentiate somebody just telling
Speaker 1: you what you want to hear while manipulating you. And
Speaker 1: it does seem like he's kind of incapable of that.
Speaker 1: But well, because that's why all those people with the
Speaker 1: cracking lawsuits they run up they ran up in there
Speaker 1: and they were just like they just told him everything
Speaker 1: he wanted to hear, and then they suddenly became his
Speaker 1: legal team. He was like on the verge of being
Speaker 1: disbarged from practicing law at all. So like, it's just
Speaker 1: wild how it's just like that level of babysitting or like,
Speaker 1: don't it's like somebody's like old homies from like when
Speaker 1: he was like in high school come back to like
Speaker 1: he was doing so much better, but the second these
Speaker 1: motherfucker's get in here, he's gonna be right back to
Speaker 1: his bullshit. I don't know what the funk they say
Speaker 1: to him, but he will. We made so much progress
Speaker 1: and now he's he went to the story and he's
Speaker 1: I think he's just wrapping up a eight and a
Speaker 1: fonta leaf he quit smoking. Well, I think you you
Speaker 1: you literally have to like find out what his advisors
Speaker 1: are telling him and just say the opposite, like because
Speaker 1: he believes the opposite, So you just have to go
Speaker 1: with whatever they're saying. They're wrong here, right, which just
Speaker 1: a little bit like it's not just flattering, it's like
Speaker 1: you have to make him think his views and perspective
Speaker 1: are grounded and right yea, and yet doing like the
Speaker 1: man like the Will Smith like parents just don't understand
Speaker 1: kind of energy. Like when talking about his advisors, he's like,
Speaker 1: what the lawyers say, man, they don't get it exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: Then you're off to the racist. These attorneys have been
Speaker 1: in politics their whole entire lives, have no idea what
Speaker 1: they're talking all right, we we don't, we don't. We're
Speaker 1: talking about but Ellen coming out as fascist like on
Speaker 1: Twitter and as the head of Twitter, like that's definitely
Speaker 1: gonna empower him to ignore the the advisors more like
Speaker 1: I feel like we're about to see a more unhinged version. Well,
Speaker 1: he's already coming at Apple. Elon Musk is coming like,
Speaker 1: so part of me is like, oh, I think I
Speaker 1: think honestly for him too. He just wants to be
Speaker 1: the main character, Yeah, Elon Musky. And right now by
Speaker 1: by messing around in Twitter, like it keeps like Twitter
Speaker 1: isn't even Twitter anymore, like in the sense or like
Speaker 1: I don't think Twitter died in that like, man, it's
Speaker 1: nothing like it used to be. Twitter has just become
Speaker 1: like about Elon Musk, like for the last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks in that sense, like it's he's very much centered himself,
Speaker 1: Like now is there no rules? Now? Could you just
Speaker 1: say anything it looks like it anything except criticizing Elon Musk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't say it seems to be the thing that
Speaker 1: now don't or or anything that is anti fascist in
Speaker 1: a in a way that it that catches their attention,
Speaker 1: which is why you don't want to say, like don't
Speaker 1: bring up like Tesla auto pilot crashes and post a
Speaker 1: video about it. That's like I remember early on it
Speaker 1: seemed like that's how people and like, let me see
Speaker 1: if I can get this this thread viral and if
Speaker 1: it will affect me, and sometimes like things disappear, etcetera.
Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, now he's I think every single
Speaker 1: thing he does he realizes how much like it reverberates
Speaker 1: and gets media coverage. So he's sort of like when
Speaker 1: Trump was in office, he's like, wow, look at this,
Speaker 1: like I moved my arm, and then everybody's writing about it,
Speaker 1: and he's completely has like lost track of I think
Speaker 1: whatever he thought he was going to be doing there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think it kind of shows innately, like
Speaker 1: there's like a if you look, it's like a such
Speaker 1: a humanness to it, the fact that we're like we
Speaker 1: try to different branch of our views by the way
Speaker 1: we love, how we or whatever, but at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, we're just humans that have like the
Speaker 1: same feelings. Like so it's like Elon bought Twitter to
Speaker 1: make it like some free speech say whatever you want,
Speaker 1: but then he buys it and if you say anything
Speaker 1: bad about him, he kicks you off, which is like
Speaker 1: this is, uh, this is what you were fighting against,
Speaker 1: right this is like the thing that you were going against,
Speaker 1: but now you're the owner and you're like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't like him when they talk about me. You can
Speaker 1: talk about anything else, just not about like the same
Speaker 1: thing with both sides. Right in comedy, like there's a
Speaker 1: right wing side that's like Oh, these left wing they're
Speaker 1: so sensitive. You can't joke about anything. If you make
Speaker 1: a joke about them, they all get offended. But do
Speaker 1: a Trump joke and a right wing audience and you
Speaker 1: lose all of them completely. Right, don't start booing you
Speaker 1: you saw the video that went viral, went through a
Speaker 1: beer on stage, like everyone is the same, Like we're
Speaker 1: all the same. Yeah, they're very they're very thin skinned,
Speaker 1: and they really don't like if a if a woman
Speaker 1: disagrees with them. It seems like for some reason, I
Speaker 1: don't know, no clue, why might be in built in
Speaker 1: that Yeah there will Yeah, well what's going on with
Speaker 1: herschel Walker though, because the I know voting has opened
Speaker 1: for the run. So the youth vote clearly helped augment
Speaker 1: the support of the Democrats in the mid terms. Right,
Speaker 1: And we talked about how these Republicans where they're like, man,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be able to fucking vote until you at
Speaker 1: least twenty seven. This life changing power that you're gonna
Speaker 1: have about voting, this is this is nonsense. We can't
Speaker 1: trust these kids to fucking vote. So we've seen that
Speaker 1: that's that's been that's even bubbling on the service this
Speaker 1: whole time for it. But then herschel Walker, who was
Speaker 1: very much a resident of Texas. That was like the
Speaker 1: last bit of news that came out of last week
Speaker 1: is like he was like claiming tax benefits for his
Speaker 1: like residents in Texas, but like the only benefit, but
Speaker 1: like it's the only kind of tax benefit you can
Speaker 1: claim if you say, that's my primary residence. So that's
Speaker 1: been a whole thing in the background and trying to
Speaker 1: determine is he actually electrical to run as a sent
Speaker 1: for like for the office of Senate in the state
Speaker 1: of Georgia. TVD there, But he's already off to you know,
Speaker 1: a bungling start to his runoff campaign. I just want
Speaker 1: to play one clip where he's just talking about again
Speaker 1: like this is sort of the latest sort of rhetorical
Speaker 1: stance for Republicans, especially when talking about young people. It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: if you don't like America and you want to complain
Speaker 1: about it, hey get the funk out of here. Basically,
Speaker 1: So here's just this is how he's sort of kicking
Speaker 1: off his his runoff campaign. And I'm just it's a
Speaker 1: it's a shame, it's horrible, and I said it is sad.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you love America, if you love America,
Speaker 1: you gotta fight for America. I told people this, and
Speaker 1: I want all the African Americans out there to here,
Speaker 1: all the white America, all the Latino America, all America.
Speaker 1: If you don't like America, you can go to the
Speaker 1: country you like, because we don't. We're not gonna hold
Speaker 1: you here. We're not gonna hold you. You can go somewhere. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: does that work the other way to what if the
Speaker 1: people don't like where they're at, can they come here? Right? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: that episode And it's just I'm just I want to
Speaker 1: make sure we we we're keeping it as consistent as
Speaker 1: as possible here with that policy. So again he's just saying,
Speaker 1: if you don't like it, get out of here. These
Speaker 1: young kids don't know what they're talking about. And the
Speaker 1: Republican they did there, they did their darndest to prevent
Speaker 1: people from voting over the holiday weekend, you know, because
Speaker 1: people like are less likely to have to go to
Speaker 1: work and might have more time to like vote in
Speaker 1: a runoff election. But the courts prevailed, and many people,
Speaker 1: especially college kids, waited in long lines to try and
Speaker 1: you know, vote in this runoff. And while this was happening,
Speaker 1: he the media tour continued and herschel Walker goes on
Speaker 1: this podcast with some right wing lady of I'm not
Speaker 1: too sure of, but they go on to just talk
Speaker 1: about how out of touch young maybe how out of
Speaker 1: touch they are, but also how out of touch these
Speaker 1: young people are. And this is just a really interesting
Speaker 1: clip because you're watching these three older people who are
Speaker 1: like raw raw for the Republican Party, like come to
Speaker 1: grips with understanding how young people think or that their
Speaker 1: lives could be different. I'll play like a bit of
Speaker 1: this clip because it is it is interesting to hear
Speaker 1: them sort of be confused and try and figure out
Speaker 1: like what what's with young people though? And what's going
Speaker 1: on with them? Kirschell, how do you feel about people
Speaker 1: that want to change America from when you and I
Speaker 1: were kids? I mean, I mean there's you know, we
Speaker 1: have I guess it's eighty to ninety or seventy to
Speaker 1: eighty million people in America that were born after So
Speaker 1: these are kids who you know, who grew up, you know,
Speaker 1: when they were ten years of age with the with
Speaker 1: the real beginning of the computers and the internet at home,
Speaker 1: so they don't know the world that we know pre internet.
Speaker 1: They don't know that the bullying was not really We
Speaker 1: may have been bullied when we were kids, you know,
Speaker 1: in a class or tease and things like that, but
Speaker 1: not not the type of culture that these kids have
Speaker 1: with the Internet today. What do you say to those
Speaker 1: kids and those young people that are voting, Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, they don't know that the grass is not green.
Speaker 1: On the other side, that they think they're somewhere better
Speaker 1: and if they know another place is better than the
Speaker 1: United States, South America, my thing is, why don't you
Speaker 1: go there or tell me let me know who that is,
Speaker 1: because I can tell them right now that's not I
Speaker 1: think our biggest problem is we're not showing our kids
Speaker 1: that most of the people today hadn't earned the right
Speaker 1: to change American And what I mean by that, there's
Speaker 1: people that have died, don't giving their life up. There
Speaker 1: are people that are given their life up for this flag.
Speaker 1: They're given this life up that for the national anthem.
Speaker 1: They've given that their life up for our freedom and
Speaker 1: the liberties that we have in this country today, and
Speaker 1: we're taking it for it for for granted, well I
Speaker 1: don't want that to happen. And I'm saying, and I'm
Speaker 1: not being tough, I'm saying, if you know a place better,
Speaker 1: you go there, but you lose your citizenship here in
Speaker 1: the United States South American. Okay, So that seems like
Speaker 1: a consistent talking point. It's I mean, it's as consistent
Speaker 1: as like that like uncle and your family, who's like,
Speaker 1: if you don't like it, they go somewhere else kind
Speaker 1: of then where it's like an easy argument. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: like I can't believe apologist making an argument such like
Speaker 1: a flawed and simplistic amplification of But it's like, but again,
Speaker 1: is that is that same logic or level of understanding
Speaker 1: applied to people who are trying to like escape their
Speaker 1: countries and seek stability in the United States? Is it
Speaker 1: the same thing that in that instance where it's like, well,
Speaker 1: if you don't like it, you can get out of here,
Speaker 1: unless you're trying to come here, in which case, don't
Speaker 1: come fucking here. But it's like a one in, one
Speaker 1: out kind of situation. It's really it's like it's it's
Speaker 1: it's I think just the papers over the fact that
Speaker 1: their whole thing is like I think they're reducing a
Speaker 1: lot of younger voters who are saying, like things can
Speaker 1: be better in this country to just sort of saying, man,
Speaker 1: they think everything is so bad here, they should check
Speaker 1: somewhere else out, I mean. And also like, don't they
Speaker 1: remember the the America we grew up in? No, because
Speaker 1: I didn't fucking grow up in the time you fucking
Speaker 1: grew up. Like do they understand even like the passage
Speaker 1: of time at all? Like as a concept, do they
Speaker 1: think whatever experiences they had our universal because they're sort
Speaker 1: of like, man, if they had what I had, they
Speaker 1: would have thinked this because they had this Internet and
Speaker 1: all this, and it's that's why there. It's just it really,
Speaker 1: it just shows how confused they are. It's like it
Speaker 1: kind of even hurts me to try and understand the
Speaker 1: confusion over there. Their complaints seems to be Yeah, with
Speaker 1: the passage of time and the fact the demographic makeup
Speaker 1: of the country, the fact that there are so many
Speaker 1: young people. So I would just invite them to go
Speaker 1: to a different country that has a different demographic makeup,
Speaker 1: or you know, there are plenty of retirement communities in
Speaker 1: Florida where they can just kind of go and not
Speaker 1: deal with the Internet and ignore Facebook, and you know,
Speaker 1: like that, they seem to have their fair share complaints.
Speaker 1: They seem to think that the country is being taken
Speaker 1: over by demon possession. So I don't know why we
Speaker 1: you're being told we have to you know, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't imagine being like I mean, I'm only two. I
Speaker 1: was born in nine, so I'm literally one of the
Speaker 1: people they're talking about. But I can't imagine being like
Speaker 1: sixty five years old or in my six or whatever
Speaker 1: and thinking like the youth. We have to stop the
Speaker 1: youth what they like. We have to make it what
Speaker 1: we had sixty years ago. We need that. We have
Speaker 1: to stop the young people who have their entire lives
Speaker 1: ahead of them. We have to stop them so we
Speaker 1: can live how I grew up. When I have my
Speaker 1: whole life behind me, not my whole life, but you know,
Speaker 1: I mean my later years of life. We have to
Speaker 1: go back to what I And it happens with every generation,
Speaker 1: like every generation is like scared of the technology that's
Speaker 1: and the young people that are coming up behind them,
Speaker 1: but they usually don't like make it their entire political
Speaker 1: stance and belief that like, well, because these kids listen
Speaker 1: to rock music and dance at soccer, that we should
Speaker 1: like take over, have a fascist takeover of the government
Speaker 1: and become authoritarians. They usually just you know, sit back
Speaker 1: and complain on their front porch and eventually like the
Speaker 1: like good Americans. Whatever happened to just giving up after
Speaker 1: a certain age, like I'm done, I'm not fighting this anymore, right,
Speaker 1: They're like, why haven't they given the funk up? Fund?
Speaker 1: Is wrong with the kids? I like, you see, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm Millennia, but you see, like sometimes gen Z some stuff.
Speaker 1: I look at him like that's not me. I'm I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm only thirty two, but I'm like, I'm not, I'm
Speaker 1: not part of that. This is there like their thing.
Speaker 1: Now they're in their twenties, they do this. I don't
Speaker 1: do that anymore, right, you know, I grew up in
Speaker 1: that middle time of the nineties, was like I'm giving
Speaker 1: up at thirty two. I encouraged people, right see, like
Speaker 1: holding on exactly do you just have to? There's a
Speaker 1: process of being like, you know, what I'm fucking was okay,
Speaker 1: And it's a relief. There's a relief to it, and
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, good. I'm glad these kids with all
Speaker 1: the tight eye and crocs on are taking up the
Speaker 1: mantle and driving the shift forward because I'm tired. And
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm fine wearing the same hoodie and
Speaker 1: jeans combo with sneakers that I've been wearing since the nineties.
Speaker 1: I'm good. They're comfortable, and I respect the children. I
Speaker 1: do not want to get in their way. Like it
Speaker 1: is this wild as a philosophy, when you're like, as
Speaker 1: a political party, your your your your vision for the
Speaker 1: future is we gotta stop these young motherfucker's right, Like
Speaker 1: we gotta stop them until they get old, and we
Speaker 1: let them vote, like on a sertday they joints their
Speaker 1: old we let them vote these things. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just it's it's it's crazy to see like where where
Speaker 1: where we are, I mean, everybody lives in their own
Speaker 1: like reality. Like when I mean, and I'm sure I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that, you know, every young person has the
Speaker 1: right thing. We're humans. Some people have good ideas, some
Speaker 1: people have bad ideas. But what confuses me is like,
Speaker 1: as a political party, to like your whole platform is
Speaker 1: based on people not voting. That is inherently strange, like
Speaker 1: like if to when you have to stop your population
Speaker 1: from voting, because if everyone voted, it would be a
Speaker 1: landslide loss, right, And that in itself should be like, Hey,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe I'll take it easy on Yeah, maybe we're
Speaker 1: the bad guys. Yeah, I mean, young people are motivated
Speaker 1: to vote more now than they were when these old
Speaker 1: as people were young, because when they were young, they
Speaker 1: were busy just changing from you know, being hippies or
Speaker 1: a generation associated with hippies to being you know, capitalists,
Speaker 1: yuppies and like, so that's how they dealt with it.
Speaker 1: And they're like, why can't you guys be realistic And
Speaker 1: the answer is, because we have to live on this
Speaker 1: planet that you that you have fucked up so so badly.
Speaker 1: So we're we're dealing with different We're we're dealing with
Speaker 1: different motivating factors like you're you're out of here in
Speaker 1: twenty years. We're still deal with like trying to clean
Speaker 1: up the trash. You know. I think the Republican Party,
Speaker 1: I think I think they messed up with Rob Wade.
Speaker 1: I mean I think they literally gave a battery to
Speaker 1: a you know, a group that wasn't that motivated. I
Speaker 1: don't believe that the mid terms would have been the
Speaker 1: same way if Roby Wade was repealed. They gave them motivation.
Speaker 1: There's nobody I don't know, Like I mean, I'm I
Speaker 1: know young people, I don't I don't know anyone excited
Speaker 1: about Biden. I don't know anybody with a Biden flag
Speaker 1: on their truck. I don't know anybody that's like out
Speaker 1: there for Biden. Like literally, the thing that everyone I
Speaker 1: know that's out there voting they held on was the
Speaker 1: roe By Wade situation, which they gave us like a
Speaker 1: reason to go out, which like I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: come back to haunt them. I mean it did in
Speaker 1: the mid terms, and I think it will again again.
Speaker 1: I think it shows how confused are. Like, well, in
Speaker 1: my day, we didn't have legal abortions, and it's like
Speaker 1: that day, I wasn't a legal person. In your day,
Speaker 1: I wasn't a legal person, right, exactly right, And then
Speaker 1: in my day my parents would have been arrested for
Speaker 1: getting married because they're they're they're their race didn't match
Speaker 1: up on a fucking application, Like what are we talking about?
Speaker 1: And yeah, it is it is again. They've just like
Speaker 1: there's this continued thing even with Democrats, Like just in general,
Speaker 1: there's a party the the generation that's in power has
Speaker 1: like this real hard time of not understanding that, like
Speaker 1: millennials and younger do not look at our lives through
Speaker 1: the same like Reagan boom Year's tinted lenses that they do.
Speaker 1: Like to your point, Jack, like they were able to
Speaker 1: move into the eighties, like, yeah, man, I started making out,
Speaker 1: I started making good money when I was working in
Speaker 1: the eighties, and I got this house for three bucks,
Speaker 1: and I have my six kids with my one job,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And now they're like, what's
Speaker 1: wrong with y'all? They're like, did you see the fucking
Speaker 1: article that said most millennial or most millennials will probably
Speaker 1: be renters for life. Does that not spell a problem
Speaker 1: that so we're looking at things. We're not looking at
Speaker 1: this as like a chill party. We got to a
Speaker 1: little bit late. We came at the part where y'all
Speaker 1: ate up all the food, drank up all the drink,
Speaker 1: and then be like, hey, how come y'all not having
Speaker 1: a good time here. It's like there's a shift here
Speaker 1: left for it. What the are you talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Completely different. We weren't at the same party, and now
Speaker 1: you want to sure it wasn't the same location, but
Speaker 1: it's not the same party anymore. So don't start. Don't
Speaker 1: act confused when people are like, we have real chains.
Speaker 1: That has to come right. All right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll come back and talk about sindbad
Speaker 1: movies that didn't even And we're back. And you may
Speaker 1: have seen the title Gone Charov, Gone Charov on the
Speaker 1: internet a lot recently. It's a nine three Scorsese movies
Speaker 1: starring Robert de Niro, Sybil Shepherd, and al Pacino. And
Speaker 1: it doesn't actually exist. It's it's a tumble meme that's
Speaker 1: become more popular because Twitter is dying and so people
Speaker 1: are going to Tumbler for their memes. And yeah, it's
Speaker 1: basically they're trying to create a Mandela effect thing and
Speaker 1: it's fun. I mean that somebody made a poster for it.
Speaker 1: The movie looks like it would be good. When his
Speaker 1: daughter texted him, Martin Scorsese responded, yes, I made that
Speaker 1: film years ago, which he's chest passing the meme right
Speaker 1: back to I guess, so yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1: It began when somebody this this actually has more of
Speaker 1: a basis in reality than I thought. So years ago,
Speaker 1: someone bought some knockoff boots with a tag advertising something
Speaker 1: called Martin Scorsese Presents Goncharov, which is odd but arguably
Speaker 1: just as odd as if a real movie was randomly
Speaker 1: advertised on a pair of boots, Like someone went to
Speaker 1: Canal Street bought some off brand boots and it had
Speaker 1: like a movie like on the tongue, where like the
Speaker 1: Jordan logo would go on a pair of like Jordan's
Speaker 1: four it has Martin Scorsese Presents Goncharov. And so that's
Speaker 1: that's where it started. People were like, huh, that's weird.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that movie. People you know, started posting
Speaker 1: about it on tumbler, and then from there people just
Speaker 1: invented all the details, like like I mean, people would
Speaker 1: remember if DeNiro and Pacino were in a movie, like
Speaker 1: that's that's where they lost me, like that. The big
Speaker 1: thing with heat was that like they had never been
Speaker 1: in a movie since Godfather two together. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's basically it started with that, And what what people
Speaker 1: have realized is that it was a misspelling. As knockoff
Speaker 1: gear is want to do they took the title of
Speaker 1: a real movie, Go Mora, and just misspelled it on
Speaker 1: these knockoff boots and wait, so they were supposed to
Speaker 1: spell go Mora and they spell gon Gonchov. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Martin Scorsese did lend his name to this movie. It
Speaker 1: was basically a foreign movie that he lent his name
Speaker 1: to for the US release. Like the most famous example
Speaker 1: that would be like Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Christmas, where
Speaker 1: people like the Tim Burton brand was really strong, so
Speaker 1: they just let him kind of put his name on
Speaker 1: it and everybody thought he directed it. So they were
Speaker 1: trying to do that back in the seventies with this
Speaker 1: movie Go Mora. It didn't work out because I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody remembers it, but it created this weird Barren
Speaker 1: Stain Bears Barren Stein Bears theory. So is that is
Speaker 1: that I feel like it's believable now because I'm sorry interrupt,
Speaker 1: I feel like, uh, like just a couple of months ago,
Speaker 1: you saw that HBO Max did the Catwoman movie, but
Speaker 1: they just they never aired it, like right, like shelved
Speaker 1: it right, shelved. Yeah, So like you see that and
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, well, I guess is believable. I
Speaker 1: could be movies out there that we're made in Hollywood
Speaker 1: just took them away, you know, right. So the overall
Speaker 1: Mandela effect idea is that like we live in a
Speaker 1: parallel universe or like there there's infinite universes. Every every
Speaker 1: time you make a decision that could have gone the
Speaker 1: other way, it creates this branching reality. And because there
Speaker 1: are you know, eight billion of us on the planet,
Speaker 1: that there are just an infinite number, and like these
Speaker 1: things Mandela dying in the eighties, you know, the spelling
Speaker 1: of Barren Stain Bears, Berenstein Bears being different, the Sinbad
Speaker 1: Genie movie and this movie all existed in a some
Speaker 1: other parallel reality branch of reality and then like somehow
Speaker 1: made the leap back over into our timeline. Which I
Speaker 1: believe that that is a viable explanation of how reality
Speaker 1: we're It's based on quantum physics. I don't think this
Speaker 1: is where we're finding the evidence though in in movies
Speaker 1: or people misremembering ship Yeah. Oh man, well, I mean
Speaker 1: well it can jump, and the realities can jump. Realities
Speaker 1: like that stands up in quantum physics. No, that doesn't
Speaker 1: stand up because I know there's the postibility of infinite
Speaker 1: realities does stand up? I know that, but I don't
Speaker 1: know I could jump. Yeah, because when you look at
Speaker 1: like at the quantum level, like things seem to be
Speaker 1: doing two things at the same time, and so like
Speaker 1: a lot. I think it's the majority of quantum scientists,
Speaker 1: like quantum physicists, actually subscribe to a multiverse theory on
Speaker 1: the universe, but nobody thinks that they are just haphazardly
Speaker 1: like some bearn Stame Bears toys are haphazardly leaping back
Speaker 1: and forth between the branching realities. But the only one
Speaker 1: that really resonated with me, like we were saying earlier,
Speaker 1: is the Kazam Shazam thing, which now people are saying
Speaker 1: is like just down to the spelling. I see the
Speaker 1: spelling or like that being a different name being the
Speaker 1: thing that people point to. But it's not. It's the
Speaker 1: simbad never started in a genie movie, right, No, I
Speaker 1: think it's. I wonder if it also has to do
Speaker 1: with like the idea of just like sin Bad, like
Speaker 1: the more broadly the character of sin Bad, you know what,
Speaker 1: because like you know, like what is it like the
Speaker 1: seven voyages of sinbad kind of thing. Like his vibe
Speaker 1: is a little that era seems a little more like
Speaker 1: it could look like a genie who like Fox with
Speaker 1: swords and stuff like that. But I just can't not
Speaker 1: have I have Symbad in my head dressed up as
Speaker 1: a genie. I don't know why. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: he but he's there. I don't know. I think it
Speaker 1: must have happened. It must, I don't know. Like even
Speaker 1: when you look his snopes, they're even like we have
Speaker 1: no clue what the funk happened, Like where this mix
Speaker 1: up even comes from? And I wonder if there's something
Speaker 1: because I feel like a lot of us are like
Speaker 1: I can. I can picture Simbad, you know, like a
Speaker 1: shiny gold outfit, I know, and I'm like, isn't that
Speaker 1: one of his stand up specials? And with the baggy
Speaker 1: pants to him, like the big baggy pants billowing, They're
Speaker 1: like kind of yeah, usually beige. I don't know it
Speaker 1: all fits together. I think in the version the VHS
Speaker 1: cover that I see in my head, he has a
Speaker 1: like offensive turban on. So yeah, yeah, I'm like, I see,
Speaker 1: So this is insane, I know, isn't it? Weird. That's
Speaker 1: when it's it's something's there. I don't know. I feel
Speaker 1: like we're not someone seeds to sit down with everything
Speaker 1: Simbad has made and just go frame by frame because
Speaker 1: I feel like we're gonna see something where he was
Speaker 1: dressed up. Maybe is it from like a different world
Speaker 1: or some ship, Like is it that maybe it was
Speaker 1: an s n L sketch. It was something like like
Speaker 1: there needs to be like a Netflix documentary, Like we
Speaker 1: need to sit down and launch a full fledged investigation
Speaker 1: because there's no way we can all have this picture,
Speaker 1: all of us simultaneously and it would be nothing. And
Speaker 1: like people people are pointing to, well, they're like some
Speaker 1: people someone said that their mom actually wrote down the
Speaker 1: name on the VHS tape as Kausam or Shazam instead
Speaker 1: of Kazam. But it's it's not the thing that needs
Speaker 1: to be explained for me is the image of Simbad
Speaker 1: with his arms crossed with the offensive turbune on the
Speaker 1: barn stain bears barrens Steinbar's thing actually has an explanation,
Speaker 1: which is that a lot of the merch that was
Speaker 1: made for them, or like not a lot, but some
Speaker 1: of the merch that was made for those characters actually
Speaker 1: misspelled the name so like you could see it out
Speaker 1: there spelled that way. And also E I n Stein
Speaker 1: is a more common spelling, like last name spelling for
Speaker 1: that like last name, so it makes sense to me,
Speaker 1: Like that would make sense to me. The Mandel effect
Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense to me because I I never
Speaker 1: had that memory, but like that, we I do feel
Speaker 1: like we need to focus on the Kazam Shazam one
Speaker 1: and and really dig into that. That's the one that's
Speaker 1: most compelling to me, maybe just because I have it.
Speaker 1: This is I just put something in the chat where
Speaker 1: someone found Sinbad in a genie like has a turban
Speaker 1: on I just put in the chat. Apparently that was
Speaker 1: him promoting like like ah, they were running back or
Speaker 1: they were playing the original Sinbad films and Sinbad was
Speaker 1: like doing an intro talking about how much he'd like
Speaker 1: Sinbad and that's why he was wearing it, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people like it. Threaded threat threat or like
Speaker 1: debating whether or not it would have like reached the
Speaker 1: lovell to give this many people this same like pop
Speaker 1: culture memory. No, that's not where it comes from from me,
Speaker 1: because I'm looking at the image and that's not that's
Speaker 1: not the image that I see in my head. I'm like,
Speaker 1: there's more gold than the one I'm thinking about. More
Speaker 1: gold in the turban is lightly colored, it's not dark
Speaker 1: red like in this one. So uh well, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm also I am very curious about this other
Speaker 1: other like false memories people have that, you know, the
Speaker 1: beyond the most famous ones, and the Goncharov one doesn't
Speaker 1: like you guys don't have a memory of that, right,
Speaker 1: like that this isn't what it resonates with you, right,
Speaker 1: no Goncharov. No. But I like anything that like starts
Speaker 1: off with someone buying knockoff boots and off the best
Speaker 1: of Yeah, because the best we'll do with like knockoff
Speaker 1: Jordan's is like when people like photoshop, because sometimes on
Speaker 1: knockoff Jordan's he looks like he got the big butt
Speaker 1: cheeks on it. People people will edit like dunk contest.
Speaker 1: Does I don't know if you remember MJ like I did.
Speaker 1: He had the yeeks out on this one. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the closest I've come from. Uh uh an off brand
Speaker 1: shoe giving me a false memory. Yeah, I had an
Speaker 1: off brand pair that were the boar Danes. They were
Speaker 1: the I guess they had Anthony Bourdine and the on
Speaker 1: the logo, but oh yeah those boarding three yea three yeah.
Speaker 1: I such a pleasure having you. Thank you for hanging
Speaker 1: out with us. Where can people find you? Follow you
Speaker 1: all that good stuff? Thank you, brother. I appreciate you
Speaker 1: guys having me. I'm at Ian Laura Live. That's my Instagram,
Speaker 1: my Twitter, and my website. My specialist streaming on HBO
Speaker 1: Max is called Romantic Comedy. Make sure you guys check
Speaker 1: that out and check out my uh website for dates.
Speaker 1: I'm going back on tour next year, so I'll be
Speaker 1: coming all over the country. Nice. There you go. Is
Speaker 1: there a tweet or some of the work of social media?
Speaker 1: You've been enjoying social media just like I'll be honest, Well,
Speaker 1: you know, Twitter, it's a sple I've been. I've been
Speaker 1: avoiding a Twitter. Um, I don't think I have a
Speaker 1: social media but it's because I've been trying to lay
Speaker 1: off of it. My phone. My screen time has been
Speaker 1: out of this and it's a weird thing because I
Speaker 1: try to compare you know, how your iPhone give you
Speaker 1: your screen time. I try to like compare with people,
Speaker 1: but nobody wants to talk about it, like it's your acts,
Speaker 1: what their screen time is. They're like, I don't really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I can't compare. I don't know if mine is
Speaker 1: crazy or not because nobody will give me their time.
Speaker 1: But anyways, I've been off of it. I've been trying
Speaker 1: to be off Twitter, Instagram and now not indulging trying
Speaker 1: to put down my screen time. My ship said, I
Speaker 1: spent two and a half hours and I read it
Speaker 1: last week. Yeah there you go. All right, well now
Speaker 1: I need to just add your Instagram time and your
Speaker 1: Twitter time. Oh see, that's what I did. I got
Speaker 1: so I got sickened by my other apps. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll combine all of that time. I'm
Speaker 1: into one app, and that's called from page of the
Speaker 1: Internet miles Where can people find you? And what is
Speaker 1: the tweet you've been enjoying? May can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at miles of Gray and shoot even
Speaker 1: on Hive. I know some of y'all were like, someone's
Speaker 1: suiting all your handle now. I I got my Hive
Speaker 1: handle pretty early, but thank you for pointing that out.
Speaker 1: Although I do not know how to use it. And
Speaker 1: I did one thing on there and nobody responded, So
Speaker 1: I'm like, I will go back to my dumpster of Twitter.
Speaker 1: But anyway, also find Jack and I on our basketball podcast,
Speaker 1: Miles and Jack Got Matt an official NBA podcast, Number
Speaker 1: one top rated. That's the thing I just made up
Speaker 1: right now. Also, if you like ninety day Fiance, uh,
Speaker 1: check me and Sophia Alexander out on four twenty day Fiance.
Speaker 1: And let's see some tweets that I like. Mmmmmm man,
Speaker 1: there's there's really not any good ones. Oh you know what.
Speaker 1: There was this interesting one from Ellerie Smith, pass guest at.
Speaker 1: Ellerie Smith tweeted, like Ellen posted this weird ass picture
Speaker 1: of like he said, my bedside table. Again more ship posting,
Speaker 1: but it was like four empty cans of like diet
Speaker 1: caffeine free coke and like a revolver and like fucking
Speaker 1: Washington carvent are crossing the Delaware or Potomac or whatever
Speaker 1: the funk that was, and it's this, it said my
Speaker 1: bedside table. But Ellerie Sweet just said he might be
Speaker 1: the most divorced man in the history of divorce. Uh,
Speaker 1: and like that just kind of felt, Yeah, it's big,
Speaker 1: big check me out energy anyway. Yeah, you can find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien just riding it
Speaker 1: all the way to the ground, like all the way
Speaker 1: to the bottom of the Marriott this trench. But some
Speaker 1: tweets I've been enjoying. An Arco bodist tweeted giving him
Speaker 1: the old JFK parentheses. Messy head in the back seat
Speaker 1: of my car. Just dark and that's great. Todd in
Speaker 1: the Shadow is tweeted sobering to realize that even Donald
Speaker 1: Trump has the wellpower to stay off Twitter, but I
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Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode, as well as a song
Speaker 1: that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do
Speaker 1: we think people might enjoy? I was listening to uh
Speaker 1: Monifa's hit song touch It, and I was just thinking of, like,
Speaker 1: you know what, that beat is really really good, and
Speaker 1: I was like, and I know that's a sample and
Speaker 1: it's a sample of the group laid Back and their
Speaker 1: song white Horse, because that just has that like I
Speaker 1: don't know eighties sent creeper vibe to it. The instrumentals
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