fyyd: : Chris Crofton: Mob Ties 11.28.23

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It is giving, isn't it It is? Yeah? Wasn't that

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that was like literally giving, wasn't that was like a

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it's Giving Tuesdays. Yeah, anyway, it's Giving Tuesday because it

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to be joined as always by my co host, mister

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Miles Grass. It's Miles Gray Gay, myster Miles. My blood

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type is grave V because man, Thanksgiving gravy stuffing. I

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need to see a doctor immediately. Yeah, it's uh, miles

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of gravy, piles of gravy exactly. I don't know if

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you can pile it, but hey, we'll work, we'll work. Hey,

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when the gravy is good, you can pile it. When

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it's been in the refrigerator for a little bit, you

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can you can like use it an ice cream scoop

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on it. That's when that's when it's good. You can

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do the little canal thing with the spoon technique like

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in the Bear you know what I mean, Denmark and Ship, Yeah,

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with the gravy anyway, it's the Denmark Denmark episodes at

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the end of season one, right, No, I think too, No, no,

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it's in two. It's in two. Yeah, yeah, yes, that

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episode with like Will Poultz plays like the like British

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dude that anyway? Yeah, I skip around. Yeah, that's good.

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I skip it around. Miles. It's time in our third

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It's dear but everyone. It's a hilarious stand up comedian, actor,

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musician with a seven point six rated album on pitch Fork. Yeah,

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you can listen to his podcast, Colbrew got me like, uh.

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You can read his book, The Advice King Anthology, available

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now anywhere fine books are sold. Poetry window is open. Motherfuckers,

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it's Chris motherfucking Craft. Hey, what's up? Oh my god?

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That that rating. I love how the rating for Pitchfork

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keeps getting higher. Real, he's got a class like a

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ten point zero classic in eleven eleven point three from Pitchfork. Yeah,

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so I just keep yeah, you keep doing what you're doing, Jack,

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Thank you very much. On the phones it right though,

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that feels seven point four man from a regular website

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to be you know, that'd be a fourteen at Spin

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dot com or whatever if that still exists dot com

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may spin. They're real stingy. A Pitchfork man, that review

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was like, this is the greatest album ever and they

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give it a seven point four. I mean that's like,

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that's a seventy four. You know, you get that on

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an essay in seventh grade and you get in trouble. Well,

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there's the Harvard of Music. I'm not putting them down.

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They're my daddy. They are my daddy. They liked the

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Andre album, by the way, they gave Andrea's flute music.

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Oh right, man eight point something. I like it too, Miles.

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Have we talked since it came out? No? No, no,

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how are you feeling? It's cool? I mean it's it's

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like it's it's experimental music. I don't listen to a

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lot of exper I mean it's interesting, but I don't.

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I never put experimental on. I'm like, you know what,

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crack my knuckles and sit back, like getting some experimental

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right now. But it's cool. Yeah. Like the first song

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on the album is the first experimental music song I've

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ever had stuck in my head. So that's all I said.

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The whole time I was listening to it. I was like,

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some if a producer is smart enough, they should just

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be sampling this album and then putting Andrea Acapella's over this.

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That's what I was saying. I was saying, somebody's gonna

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somebody's gonna, you know, sample this, turn it into the

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type of music I normally like, if you guys heard

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Ozzy Osbourne singing, looks like we made it. The song

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by no the song by them, what do you that's

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not it's not called look looks like we made it.

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It's that's a Barry Manlow Shuniswain song. Still the one,

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Oh You're still the one? Have you heard the Ozzy

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Osbourne version of that? They do? Ai? I swear to

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god it's good. It gave me. It gave me fresh

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appreciation for that song, which I always so. Anyway, if

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they could do that with Andre three thousand, Oh it's

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it's Oh. That one's a I didn't like. I'm like,

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in a way, I'm like, oh, Ozzie covered still the

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one that sounds like maybe something Ozzie would do. But

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you know it's a he's not well enough anymore. Yeah,

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the tonality these days. You give him a couple of

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hundred bucks, you do that, Christ hold on, no, no,

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I gotta hear this. Oh it's so good. It's so

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fucking good. It's actually good. The only time I've been

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thankful for a I We're gonna get sued by Big Daddy. AI, Okay, okay,

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it's incredible. It's like giving me. It's like when someone

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covers the song that you like it again and h

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that song used to be good but then it got overplayed. Anyway,

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so I like, what so Pasi on the Flute album? Anyway.

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I think the Flute Album's fine, but I also am

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like annoyed by like young I work with young people

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now because I work at like a vintage store, and

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they're all like, this is my zone, and I'm like, yeah,

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your zone is like stoned and checked out. Like instead

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of punk rock, we get flu a further retreat. We're

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going into a new age now. I did not expect

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that the response to like fascism would be new age music,

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but that's what's basically happening. Well, it's one response yeah, yeah, yeah,

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it's like stone. It's connected to stone though, you know,

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which is not good. Revolution is not good. Weed is

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not the right drug for could you imagine? Though, Like

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that's the new thing. You just see like just people

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in the streets. Now the flute brigade comes out and

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they're like, oh shit, yeah, it's time, it's time. Could

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be the millennials with gen Z, they're always like, I'm tired,

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you know, like I'm already tired, like you know what

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I mean, because they're tired everyone with social media, you know.

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I mean yeah, but even like gen Z they're like

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twenty eight years old or whatever, and they're like, thank god,

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it's flute music. I can't take any more. Tell you

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one person a revolution with a flute, little gap by

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the name of the Pied Piper. So yeah, yeah, that

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was a caffeine type flute that was a caffeinated, hyper

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caffeinated butterfly fluttering that was trying to catch wasn't sixty vpm,

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That shit was like one eighty. That was back when

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the flute was like the electric guitar. That's right. Oh

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my god, see that dude shredding out. Yeah, that was happening.

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That's a big thing that we've developed. Yeah, because I

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want to lead some kids over a cliff. I don't

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even know what he did or led the rats out

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of Sweden or whatever. Believe you got the rats out

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of Sweden. What am I gonna do? I gotta get

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rid of these rats. What's our loudest instrument? Flute? Jesus

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give me one. Fuck, it's only been a few years.

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That's what we've come up with. All right, Chris, We're

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gonna get to know you a little bit better in

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a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about.

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I mean, it's a crofton episode. I don't know if

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we're going to talk about any of this ship. But

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I'm much more mature you are. I know that is

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not a complaint. We love a we love a good cross.

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Since I ran for office, I've been a lot more

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on topic. Okay, all right, all right? Yeah, and you

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did hand us a power point. You handed us a

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power point. You have a one sheet that you would

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full of topics that you would like us to stick

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to me. Yeah, and you already you messed up by

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bringing up the pitchfork thing. Me, me and me, That's

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what we're gonna talk about people how frequently people kids

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these damn days are checking the damn phone. Dang, everybody,

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not just kids, everybody's checking our phone during sex and

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other times that we shouldn't be doing that. Talk about

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that we might check them with private equity. From a

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previous Tuesday episode, we are of course going to talk

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about Hall getting restraining order against Oats. I feel like

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if I'm like ranking these in the order of like

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what what we will get to Hall getting restraining order

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against Oats is probably I need criss craft. That's pretty incredible. Yeah,

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that's like, yeah, that's like soup getting mad at nuts

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or something. But Darryl Halls is kind of a he

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looks like a like an ego maniac. That guy. Yeah,

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I saw him in the supermarket in like nineteen eighty five.

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He looked completely out of place because he was in

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his rock and roll you know, like Daryl Hall a

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video mill, had like the black tights on, and yeah,

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maybe he was in town for some kind of event

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or something, but he was like buying milk, wearing like

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his rock and roll clothes, and he looked ridiculous, incredible.

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I think people who like are larger than life. Personalities

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like that should be forced to always like have their

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look on. Yeah, I mean should come with it, yeah,

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like part of them. Yeah yeah, those like baseball caps

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pulled low over the eyes. You know, no, because you

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got to keep up the mystique of this celebrity myth,

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you know what I mean, Like they look like that

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all the time. Yeah, and they hate it. We might

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even talk about the Squid Game reality show all of that,

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maybe none of that, some of that, but before we

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get to it, Chris crofton, we do like to ask hello, yes, hello,

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Chris Hello. We like to say hello, toodles. And also

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what is something from your search history that's revealing about

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who you are? Well, it's become a tradition on here

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for me to tell you about weird stuff on the YouTube.

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And I've been into lately because I'm still very much

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into YouTube, but I'm still not paying for the ad

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free so I'm starting to lose it because they're really

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making the ads long. They're trying to wait, wait, i

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mean look ad blockers, ad blockers on YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Chris,

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there's ad blockers. That's someone you hire. Yeah, yeah, you

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hire them. You give look, you give me sixty bucks

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a month. I'll make sure you get no ads man,

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trust me. No. But there's like there're extensions that you

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put in a browser. I'll walk you through it later.

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Hold on. Fuck yeah, extensions in a browser? Do I

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have to write my congressman? No? No, no, you can

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do it all from the privacy of your own home.

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That's all right. So I'm a fool anyway. I know

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I'm a fool. Let should just be paying paying for it,

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but I anyway, that's what's caused. Like this has been

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a huge thing because they're like some creators who are

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like I don't care if people are using ad blockers

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to watch my content, Like I don't want to. I

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don't I don't want to prevent people from watching what

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I see. And YouTube has now been like fighting like

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the people who have ad blockers in their browsers or

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to be like we've suspecting that you, like we can

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tell you're using an ad blocker. If you do it

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three more times, you will get like you can't use

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your account anymore. Oh okay, And it's caused Like what's

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great though, is like it just made the like ad

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blocking movement even more aggressive. We're like now they're like, oh,

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that's how you want to play. Then we're like, we're

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gonna make sure our shit's real tight. So now you

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can't sense even when we're using ad blockers. Wow, I

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love that. Yeah, Okay, so I'm like one of these guys.

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It's just stuck because I'm old, you know that. I'm like, oh,

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no way around this. I gotta watch thirty seconds of

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ads for Capital one or whatever, right, and then then

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you can watch your mother and then I get to

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watch my mind exploring video. Yeah. So I'm still stuck up.

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But they've also been trying to break me. I really

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feel like they've like this guy's been going for a

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long time and it's time to amp it up. We're

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gonna make these ads really long, you know, because for

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a while it was like you can skip the ads,

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you know, they skip ads like that button doesn't even

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come up for me anymore. So they're trying to get

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me to pay. But I'm standing think they've got you

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like targeted, and some they're like this this is the

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one guy who this is all insane. This is like

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I like the idea that they're personally attacking me, like

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they're getting track of like, we're gonna get this guy

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to pay, and I'm like, no, you're not. I'll watch ads.

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I'll watch them. I don't care. They see their earnings

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going down and they're like, what's crofting up to? I'm

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not paying. I mean, That's what I'm doing over here.

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So I found a couple of things that were really good.

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One is mob Facts, like what like stats like a

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pack all caps. It's an account called mob Facts m

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O B F A X, and a lot of it.

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A lot of it's just like like old TV shows,

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or like it's not TV shows. It's always like news,

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like old news reports about the mob or biker gangs

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and stuff. Oh whoa. But there's also a lot of

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b roll that they put up unedited from like news

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reports from nineteen eighty two from like Daytona Beach about

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biker gangs, where it's just them filming them in their clubhouse,

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just like with no narration, just you're just basically hanging

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out in a biker clubhouse in Daytona in nineteen eighty two.

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You know. And I've talked to I know Miles is talking.

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We've talked about the payphones, Like I don't know if

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we like that kind of thing where I was a

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long time ago, I said, I used to search on

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YouTube like for like wild sound from a diner nineteen

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sixty two, you know, and it's like there's no there's none,

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and and anyway, it turns out like anyway, it doesn't matter.

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You can hang out in a biker bar in real

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time on these things. Like it's just like tons of

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b ye roll of just like of Daytona in nineteen

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eighty two, or like Tampa or or or even Charlotte,

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North Carolina, like everywhere was like rural back then, so

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like Charlotte, North Carolina looked like the mob. The first

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to like do spring Break is that like it sounds

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very very much like I don't know why they focus

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on Broward County or whatever. That was one of the

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ones I watched. It's like three hours of b roll

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unedited footage of bikers hanging out. Yeah, this one's like

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Florida Florida part one. Oh yeah, I watched one. Yeah,

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that's the one I watched. Like that's that's the good one.

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I mean that's there's like three episodes of it, and

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so someone just like aggregating, like they use the term loosely. Oh,

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this is my favorite episode in this tape. It's local

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news and the procession of motorcycles, some not as the

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Outlaws bury one of their own. The funeral is for

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Henry Wow, and a little bit well can they hear

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this on the on the show? Yeah? Yeah, oh they can't.

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Oh is this them in their club now? Oh yeah,

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just silent film with them, like yeah, yeah, yeah, So

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we're really into Iron Crosses. Okay, so this is where

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you're like, yeah, this is not seeing the politics of

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nineteen eighty two Outlaws out Motorcycle Gang. I just think

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it's interesting to see people hanging out like in the

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bar before there were phones, right right, No, and it's

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really boring. It turns out it's really boring. All people

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did was tackle each other. Oh really, there's people. So

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when they're hanging out in the bar, they're tackling one another. No,

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there's one guy on the payphone already, so they can't

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use the payphone. And then and there's no other phones,

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so they're playing pool and then and then usually they

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just get drunk and then they just start tackling each other.

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So I will say that, you know, for all the

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trouble phones have caused we are of living in a

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better time for like, you know how you know there's

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an upside to we can read a Wikipedia about Alexander

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Graham Bell instead of tackling our friend Onion. Yeah, at

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the clubhouse or whatever. I mean, that's all they do.

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At a certain point, they just get so drunk they

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start just helping each other around the barroom. They're like, oh,

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get onion, he fell down. Oh my god, animal or

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you know what. They're all named things like like scallion

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boy or whatever. Cricket good for good form, Hey, rat man,

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rat Man, ratman, Scallion Larry got hit by a dart.

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Like they're all just causing their own trouble. They're like,

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you know, they're like trying to fight themselves, Like where

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did you come from? They're like looking in a mirror.

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You know, it's like that guy, it's like that kind

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of it's like headbutting it. It definitely doesn't look as

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like interesting as you know, you imagine. You know, it's

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like it must have been much harder to be sober

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back then, like because there's just nothing to do, right, Yeah,

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you just had to like get really serious about like

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seeing how many of your friends you could cram into

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a phone booth like that wasn't it wasn't that one

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of the hobbies, one of the other hobbies besides just

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getting drunk at noon, that's like way yeah, yeah, it

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was like kids seeing how many people they could cram

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into a phone booth. Yeah, oh definitely, and you get

18:20

you get, yeah, swallowing goldfish or whatever. Also, it's you

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can really get a sense of how unsafe the world

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was back then. Sure, you know, I mean there was

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just one phone and somebody was usually on it, and

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if you couldn't get to it, yeah, and everyone was.

18:36

You could just to assume that everybody you encountered was

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drunk like it throughout the day. For the most part,

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I feel like if they weren't drunk, they were all

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for their whole head and body was full of leaded gasoline,

18:51

which I think is actually a secret reason why America

18:53

has gone to hell. It's because for like, well I

18:55

think maybe every nation, but you know, I think that

18:58

we all were like, we must be stupid, and we're

19:03

not like gonna analyze ourselves well, because we were we're

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already you know what I mean, Like we already got

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poisoned by lead so how can people who are poisoned

19:12

by lead assume that they're not doing that bad? You

19:15

know what I mean, Like, like you can't assess yourself

19:18

if you've already been poisoned by like, oh, well, I

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think we had leaded gasoline in the air for like

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forty years, but I don't think it had much of

19:24

an impact. Meanwhile, everything's going crazy, but they're like, of

19:27

course the person who's poisoned by lead is gonna say

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it didn't have much of an impact. An alcoholics saying

19:31

they're not an alcoholic, yeah, which is one of my favorite,

19:35

Uh that Norm McDonald's story where he says he got

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drunk at the bar and it was like a second

19:39

time ever getting drunk, and he got put in a rehab.

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He said, he told him he wasn't an alcoholic, and

19:46

they said, he said, but the thing is, that's what

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alcoholics say. That's exactly what alcoholics. So you just like

19:52

can't get out. Yeah. But I mean, there is the

19:56

big lead crime hypothesis that's I don't know. This basically

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says that, you know, there's been this massive drop off

20:05

in crime throughout a lot of the world, and it

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happens to coincide with the removal of lead from gasoline

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and every pain. Yeah, that's possible. In formula, I feel

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like it seemed like it was in everything. People aren't. Yeah,

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it was in everything, because it was like coming out

20:24

of everywhere you looked. I mean, oh, I remember A

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big part of my childhood was like car exhaust, you

20:31

know that doesn't exist anymore. That was everywhere you went.

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I mean you stood in parking lots getting led straight

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in your young face. Yeah, I mean everywhere you went. Yeah,

20:42

I mean that that must have had an impact. And

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now we these lead poison people, do these studies that

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say nothing happened to us, right, and also the positions

20:52

of power we look around the world. Yeah, meanwhile, we

20:55

look around the world and like, you know, Mitch McConnell

20:58

like is shutting down talking. It's not the gasoline, like

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someone from another galaxy's like that's classic lead. He leaded

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fucking freak. He grew up in Kentucky in the nineteen fifties.

21:09

Holy ship, that guy's like ninety percent lead. He's mostly lead.

21:13

At this point, he actually thinks he's doing good things. Yeah.

21:17

The only people who are like still clinging to power

21:19

who still have power and wealth in this country. Are

21:22

all like the most the most lead boys and the

21:27

Koch brothers been like hanging around like fucking yard ship. Yeah,

21:33

they're like, Yeah. I used to be the pencil sharp

21:35

the designated pencil sharpener in class for every grade I

21:38

was in. I would take all the lead pencils and

21:40

grind them up right there and take big old whiffs

21:43

of it, and you got like ct just doing lines

21:46

of pencil shavings. Do you guys like the smell of gasoline?

21:51

I'm sorry, what do you like the smell of gasoline?

21:54

You mean like on some like motor head type ship,

21:56

like a man, just like when you're pumping gas if

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I waded in, Yes, Miles exactly. He's never heard of this,

22:05

which means uff, I think this explains a lot about

22:08

it was. Obviously, I don't think what you're talking about. Like,

22:13

I think in the early eighties they still had lead

22:16

in the gas, and I think I huffing that ship

22:19

as like a four year old dude. I think I

22:21

feel like because I know they started to phase it

22:23

out in the eighties, and I feel like I have

22:25

vivid memories of my mom specifically asking for unleaded gasoline. Yeah,

22:30

that was the thing. Unleaded please right, you decaf in

22:35

the morning. That wasn't like a choice like you were vegetarians,

22:42

just according to what kind of car you had. I

22:43

don't think you could use unleaded in a leaded gas car,

22:46

could you? Oh? Is that right? I don't remember like

22:49

hearing that specifical. I don't think it was like maga

22:53

person was like, I'll take leaded. Your car doesn't take leaded?

22:58

Well that engine not destroy my fucking car, then I

23:01

don't give a shit. That's the big thing that that's

23:04

why they added the lead to the gasoline was to

23:06

cure engine knock and are you serious? That was like

23:10

when when cars first started, they would like be running

23:14

smoothly for five minutes and then the engine would just

23:16

start being like should everybody in the car be like

23:20

what the fucking just happened? And they could never like

23:23

figure it out. And then they added lead. And then

23:26

there was that famous inventor who was like, this is nothing,

23:31

it's going everybody's gonna be safe. Look, I'm going to

23:34

like huff it or this guy's gonna huff it at

23:37

this press conference, and like the guy died. Yeah, boy,

23:43

what a time. Yeah. So that's mob backs if you

23:45

want to watch, like I really do, I mean like

23:48

a bunch of it's like mob trials. Like it's just

23:50

like like really long takes of mob mob trials like

23:54

often just like you know, the stuff they had footage,

23:56

the footage they had laying around the newsroom from like

23:58

or you know, in the archives of low stations. But

24:00

I love that ship. I love that too, because that's

24:03

like the most like you're really transported to another time

24:07

when you have like you can see the grain of

24:09

like the video and like the audio quality and just

24:12

like the shitty just everything, and it's like the opening

24:16

arguments have began and John Gotti's like Jeno Vese crime family,

24:20

That's what it is. And then there's just like the

24:22

stuff they shot in the hallway with like no commentary

24:25

on it. Yeah, people like walk zero. Yeah, like people

24:28

in slacks going out, going out for a smoke, Yeah,

24:33

going out to smoke a vantage, going out to hav

24:35

an affair, oh yeah, yeah, whatever horrible ship you did then,

24:38

because all you had to do is go like one

24:40

town over Cretes and you have an affair, have a

24:44

second family, put a wig on and go one block

24:47

over and started doing life. Unless you like back back then,

24:52

were they just showing like these like shot up mobsters,

24:55

like when they would like a hit, like like one

24:57

of these guys got fucking snuffed out, because like I

25:00

feel like in so many mob documentaries, there would be

25:02

moments they would cut to like footage from the eighties

25:04

and like, oh, ship that guy. Yeah, just a guy

25:07

in his sit with his ass in the air on

25:09

the paved for some reason that they show that one.

25:13

Particularly that's Paul Castellano, the one who got shot on

25:16

the on the on the patio and he's tangled up

25:18

on the tablecloth with a cigar between his teeth or

25:21

whatever between. Yeah, that's a good picture. But I don't

25:23

know why they showed that picture, right, And that's that's

25:26

tonight's news all right here? Yeah, correct with the weather.

25:29

I guess they hated it was like when Lenny Bruce

25:32

died and they put his dead body all over the

25:34

news because the cops hated him. So it may have

25:36

been like one of those things where they're just like,

25:38

we're releasing it's just because we hate this guy so much.

25:41

But okay, so mob backs is one thing. Then there's

25:44

this other channel I've been watching called below the Wait,

25:48

let's hat let's take it quick break. So we're getting

25:50

we're getting more search history from Chris Craft. We'll be

25:54

right back and we're back. This is this is the

26:07

Crofton Expert episode. Just okay, well no, I'll just go

26:10

quick on this one. It's not that you have an

26:13

expertise in obscure YouTube. This one is not that obscure

26:17

because the numbers on mob backs I think are pretty

26:19

low as far as views. Have you heard of scribed?

26:22

Have you guys heard of vivo v e v Oh?

26:25

They have a lot of music videos, a tremendous number

26:27

of ads on there, though there's no way to block them.

26:30

You just have to watch them. So the other one

26:33

is this this channel called below the Planes, Below the Planes,

26:37

where it's this guy named Tom asked Jim who goes

26:40

to fields in North Dakota or like old properties. He

26:44

finds old properties from old maps from the nineteenth century

26:47

and he finds out where there used to be a

26:48

saloon and then he looks around the yard because usually

26:52

the saloons like long gone, like the saloon. Right, this

26:55

is like late night, late eighteen hundreds North Dakota. So

26:58

like all that got well, I don't know what the

27:00

fuck that's supposed to mean. Like everybody knows, you got

27:02

a picture this, this is late. Everyone knows it's late

27:05

eighteen hundreds North Dakota. So those buildings aren't gonna be

27:07

around anymore. I have no idea what that means. But

27:10

he just shows up to a field, yeah, and he's like,

27:12

there's a depression there, and there's a depression there, and

27:15

that could be like an outhouse pit or a garbage pit,

27:18

but he's looking at basically what we or you would

27:20

see as a field. And then he goes over and

27:22

he starts poking it with a big prod and he

27:25

feels glass in the ground, and then he just digs

27:28

and then there's like six hundred bottles in the ground.

27:31

And every show he just pulls out so many fucking bottles.

27:36

And look how many views he has on his goddamn channel.

27:38

He has like eight hundred thousands on some of these things.

27:41

The wild thing is like to your point, like the

27:43

thumbnails for the videos are literally a picture of like well,

27:46

like again, we'd be like, okay, it's some fucking field,

27:48

but then there's like an arrow where there's like a

27:50

like a weird small patch of grass, and it's like

27:53

buried beside the tracks, hundreds of rare bottles, right, and

27:57

it's all outhouse pits. And he all so like digs

28:00

in these outhouse bits. And finally he said something I've

28:03

always wandered, they still stink. I was wondering if that

28:08

like you know what I mean, like I was. They

28:10

don't usually mention it, but he said, and they show

28:14

there's lime in some layers, because that's the through lime

28:17

on the on the outhouse contents, you know, right, you

28:20

know one and forty two year old map found in

28:23

an old library led us to an absolute jackpot. He

28:28

overdoes the jackpot shit a little bit. But anyway, he's

28:31

a he's a fucking wizard, the guy's and he has

28:34

like a team like someone someone No, this guy is digging.

28:38

You get the impression now that if you just go

28:40

out in your yard and just dig, you're gonna find

28:42

hundreds of bottles. Like the whole earth is made of bottles.

28:44

If you like this guy picks the place is obviously

28:48

they're not. The whole earth isn't made of bottles. But

28:49

that's what this guy makes it look like. I just

28:51

be like, I think there's some bottles here, and then

28:52

next thing you know, he he is down six feet

28:55

and there's like one hundred bottles on the ground and

28:57

they're all like from anyway, and he knows what they

29:00

all are, and they're all tool top. He says, tool top. Now,

29:04

if you want to have a drinking game, say you

29:05

were really into blow the planes, the man says, tooltop

29:09

so much that it can drive you top. Yeah, well

29:14

there's you know, Chris, this look like it was like

29:22

one of those where an adult you don't even know

29:31

what a tool top is. Huh, never heard of Tom

29:33

ask jem My Goodness, So yeah, Tom asked. Jim says

29:36

tooltop because tooltop means to hand blown bottle or like

29:39

a blown like I don't even they used to blow bottles,

29:42

you know, bottles. They used to blow glass up to

29:47

up to like the century, okay up until like so

29:50

like it's machine made or it's a tool top, and

29:53

a tooltop means they cut the lip with a tool

29:56

or there's a blob top, which is an older kind

29:59

of bottle where they just applied the top. It's where

30:01

they call it a blob top or an applied top

30:03

where it's like they add the top after it's done

30:05

because they didn't know how to do a better top.

30:09

So it's like he's he knows every bottle. He's like, oh,

30:11

this is a fucking flap jack style, you know, cosmetics

30:16

bottle from nineteen ten, and he pulls them out one

30:19

after the other like valuable, Like when he says the

30:22

jackpot is like a jackpot for him. Yes, their bottles, no,

30:26

their bottle freaks out there that he's found some bottles

30:29

in North Dakota where it's like the only he finds

30:31

the only example of this certain kind of soda. Oh wow,

30:35

soda bottles are really valuable, like soda water, Like back

30:38

then everybody drank soda water because maybe because the water

30:41

was bad, because this was like North Dakota in the

30:43

late eighteen hundreds is like Nowheresville, Yeah, I mean it

30:47

probably still is, but you know it really was back then.

30:49

That's like what's it called the show on HBO Dead

30:53

with right, Like, isn't that the Dakota's Yeah, Dakota Territory. Yeah. Yeah.

30:57

So he's out there a lot, and that's where he

30:59

does a lot of his hunting. I mean, it's it's

31:01

kind of incredible. It does get repetitive because he finds

31:03

so many bottles and he knows what they are so fast.

31:06

So he's just like, that's another that's another Mecato style

31:09

liquor flask. That's a sheet shoe fly liquor flash with

31:13

a with a with a double cut bottom or whatever.

31:15

You know. He just keeps going and then he always

31:18

says tool top tooltop tooltop tool to see like with

31:21

the with these finds, like when like, is he kind

31:24

of motivated by the monetary gains of finding this stuff?

31:28

And does he and is he like doing well? Like

31:31

if he's digging out, if he's constantly digging this ship,

31:33

you must have a lot of money, right, Yeah, America's

31:36

youngest billionaire. He's a billionaire the old fashioned way bottles. Yeah,

31:45

so he the other billionaires like, don't take him seriously. Whoa,

31:50

it's nice to meet you, Elon, we're the same. Yeah, Hey, hey,

31:55

you want to dig in one of my fields, loser,

31:57

And he's like, you try, I can't find an mud.

32:00

You're a rascal. Ask him. There's just something cool about

32:04

a guy who like looks at our world and like

32:07

sees music, you know, like see like it's just like, oh,

32:11

I see, I see the secret code. I see the

32:15

history of this landscape. It's incredible just underneath it, just

32:18

just below the surface. And I bet everybody's digging up

32:21

their mom's yard because of this guy. Yeah, somebody's finding like, oh,

32:24

there's a depression right there, and then they dig it

32:26

up and it's like the it's probably like you know,

32:28

the main power grid or whatever, you know, yeah, but

32:32

basically right you know, it's like the worthy above ground

32:34

pool used to be and there's nothing down there at all.

32:36

You know, Oh, there's an impression in the ground. Yeah,

32:39

that's from our old above ground pool. No it isn't, Mom,

32:41

shut up, mom. You know, even seen below the planes,

32:45

there's bottles everywhere. This guy just like I'm watching a clip.

32:48

This guy is like had like a treasure map and

32:50

then it's like a hard cut and he's like pulling

32:52

out like an immaculate ceramic bowl from the insane. It's

32:56

insane and it makes you want to dig everywhere. But

32:59

here's a mass of figuring out where to dig. And

33:02

this person who runs his channel because he has like

33:05

a production team someone obviously knew this guy and said, okay,

33:09

you're doing this like tooltop, knife edge, coffin style liquor flask.

33:12

Just pulled it, cir k. So he's just like and

33:15

he old hat to him. If I found one of those,

33:17

I would I would die happy, you know what I mean?

33:19

If I found one whatever you said, coffin style. He's

33:21

always talking about that coffin style liquor flask. If I

33:24

found one of those. Oh he just found a tooltop

33:26

drug store bottle excels your drug store yank. Oh yeah,

33:28

he's so sick of drug store bottles. That makes him angry.

33:31

He could tell a drug store bottle no embossing. He

33:35

gets really mad. But it's not a boss. He's like

33:36

sometimes he goes that should be a boss. That's the

33:38

right period for it to be a boss. Is it

33:40

always like loosen the dirt or is he like finding

33:43

like a room down there? No, he's just like he's

33:46

just like just using like a trowel and kind of

33:48

being like, oh, here's a little here's a little something. Here,

33:51

here's a little buddy, and then like an out house pit.

33:54

He's usually founding it and he calls the use layer

33:56

and the use layer of the outhouse pit means ship. Yeah,

33:59

and he's always talking about, uh, we know, we know

34:02

we're in an outhouse pit because there's undigested seeds all

34:05

over the place. He always says that too. Then then

34:08

he just like but then he said one time he

34:09

said it's stank, like you could tell this is an

34:12

outhouse pit, which I was wondering because he's like, this

34:14

brown stuff is human waste. And I also wondered that

34:17

because I thought maybe it was a kind of soil

34:18

or something like that human waste. So he's like, yeah,

34:21

and I got hepatitis from the last jackpot I hit,

34:24

So that was fun. Yeah. He The most exciting thing

34:28

that happened with some old wine bottle from like nineteen

34:31

hundred still had fermented wine in it or like still

34:35

had a little bit of product left in it. So

34:37

when he took the bottle out of the soil and

34:39

exploded in his face because the pressure had been had

34:42

been kept in the so he got old wine. Yeah,

34:45

he got old wine in his eye from like the

34:47

last person who drank it was like pie. It also

34:51

just like makes me realize, like how how little I

34:53

understand about the passage of time, you know, like you're like, okay,

34:57

so there was a saloon there and then what like

35:00

the building probably gets raised and then like do they

35:03

just leave the Like there's like all right, threw some

35:05

dirt on top of what used to be here, basically

35:08

like the like there's no like real excavation way to

35:12

be like you got to clear all this crap. It's

35:14

like junk. Like they won't even do it. Like they

35:17

find like the remains of a Native American village and

35:20

ship and they just want to cover it up because

35:22

they just want to get on with buildings. Yeah's next

35:24

one of the greatest like American archaeological sites Cochia Mound

35:29

in Saint Louis. Like they discovered it as they were

35:32

turning it like it it's like as impressive as like

35:35

the Pyramids in Egypt. It was like wild. It had

35:39

like all these different layers of like multicolored earth and

35:43

they were in the process of turning it into a

35:46

parking lot when somebody stopped them and was like, actually,

35:49

this is like, well maybe one of the most impressive

35:52

structures you've seen on this content. Like they imported like

35:56

red clay from the fucking Mississippi, like from from like

36:02

Louisiana all the way up here just to like make

36:05

this giant mound. Yeah. So when they pave like a highway,

36:10

and they usually push back really hard against any archaeologists

36:14

to get these projects done. They they they even have

36:17

you know, destroy sites just because they want to keep

36:19

the project on schedule. So you know, it's very hard.

36:22

So bottles this is considered just trash. But but what's

36:25

neat about it is that this guy's finding, you know,

36:28

bottles that say Dakota Territory on them, and I guess

36:30

people collect these. So he's found a couple of bottles

36:32

where he set out loud like this is worth sixteen

36:34

thousand dollars. Most of the time he doesn't talk about price,

36:36

but so he's making money off that. But the real

36:38

genius is the person genius. I mean, uh, but the

36:42

real the smart guys the guy has says produced by

36:45

that channel, they're making fortune off that channel. Some of

36:48

those almost all those things have two hundred thousand views

36:50

on him and some of them eight hundred thousand, and

36:53

so I think just someone said, like, man, Tom, we

36:56

got to get you on film doing this. This is insane.

36:58

You know, and he's said he's on camera. He said

37:01

he's dug thousands of outhouse pits. And then in his

37:04

spare time he restores like carriages from the nineteenth century.

37:09

He's some kind of a I mean, I think Tom

37:12

Asked him is some kind sort of nineteenth century fucking freak.

37:15

He's like a multie like restores old stoves, like he

37:19

had a stove. They showed him in his warehouse. I

37:21

found it a separate video because I was just poking

37:22

around looking for Tom Asked Jem videos like on its own,

37:24

to see if they had any background in this guy.

37:27

And they showed him in his like he's like, I'm

37:29

not digging bottles right now because I forget why. He said,

37:31

like I hurt my knee or something. And he's like,

37:33

I'm hanging around the warehouse working on this other project

37:37

is to restore this late nineteenth century stove. And he's

37:43

like getting a stove back to mint condition, like the

37:46

way people restore cars. Yeah, do you imagine what kind

37:49

of weirdo you got to be? What if he's just

37:51

a time traveler from like back then. Yeah, I used

37:55

to ship right here. Oh man, I bet a lot

38:01

of corn that day. I remember that one. I bet

38:03

he's I bet he's single, though, Oh yeah, imagine being

38:06

his girlfriend. Oh god, you're storing a stove. Holy fuck,

38:13

what are you an idiot? I bet there's a person

38:17

out there for him. I bet no, he probably he probably,

38:19

I mean he's probably a rock starto like yeah, stove

38:22

restoration groupies. Oh, like the hottest bottle collector likely got

38:27

her hear about the number, even just to get the stuff. Yeah,

38:31

if you're like the hottest bottle collector, you're gonna want

38:33

to hang with him because he's just gonna you could

38:35

probably slip a sixteen thousand dollars SEWDA bottle into your

38:38

pocket when he's not looking. All right, let's take one

38:42

more break and we'll come back and hear either an

38:44

overrated or an underrated and we're bad. Just one more

39:01

thing about that last segment. Don't don't, seriously, don't do

39:06

the drinking game tooltop. If you that guy will drive

39:09

you and sane saying tooltop, I mean that you'll you

39:11

know you would die, I mean tooltop, tooltop, tool will

39:14

drug store bottle, drug store bottle, drunk store bottle, drunk

39:16

store bottle. Yeah, I said tooltop, tooltop tools, I mean, unbelievable.

39:21

My friend said I recommended the channel or my friend

39:24

was watching it separately or something like because I have

39:27

friends that like are into the same kind of stuff,

39:29

And she was like, have you seen this? And I

39:30

was like, yeah, I watched it all the time. She's like, man,

39:32

that guy. Imagine. I think she might have said, like,

39:34

imagine a drinking game where you said, every time he

39:36

says tool top, you'd just die. So I'm not the

39:39

only one. Everyone who watches that channels Like, I kind

39:42

of wish you would just if it is a tooltop,

39:44

you would just put it to the side and not

39:45

say it, because we're assuming it is a tool we know, Yeah,

39:50

why don't you say when it's not a tooltop? How

39:52

about that only when it's not a top? That's like,

39:55

that's what I would say in the comments. I want

39:57

to get in the comments like guy trolling, Oh, come on,

40:02

ask gentlemen another if you said tool top fucking forty three,

40:06

please respond, please respond to put like my phone number

40:10

you like an old guy in the YouTube comments like

40:14

I would respond, I've read left fifty of these messages.

40:17

Here's my phone number again, what's the matter with you? Please?

40:19

We need to discuss this urgently. I also want to

40:22

talk to you about my divorce. You seem like you

40:24

might know something about divorce. It's like stand but even sadder.

40:28

Do you like Crossby Stills and Nash? Anyway, I'm getting

40:30

off topic. Please stop saying tool top so much, but

40:32

also call me up. What Chris? What's do you think

40:36

is overrated? Or underrated? Okay, underrated real quick? Just just

40:39

a flat out recommendation because I want to get to

40:41

some stuff. I mean I want to get you guys

40:43

to get to some stuff. Underrated. This great documentary about

40:48

a jazz trumpeter on the Criterion channel right now, but

40:51

I'm sure you can rent it from Amazon or whatever.

40:53

But it's called I called Him Morgan and it's about

40:56

jazz trumpeter Lee Morgan. And first of all, it's absolutely

41:00

beautifully made documentary, beautiful, like I mean, like like just

41:05

to watch, like visually spectacular. And then the story is unbelievable.

41:09

It's about a trumpet player who became a junkie, ended

41:12

up on the street, was rehabilitated by this woman, and

41:15

then this humongous twist sort of not a twist because

41:19

it's a real story, but like you know, something unexpected happens. Wow.

41:23

But it's just a beautiful documentary. And I watched it

41:25

again last night, and I probably watched this is probably

41:26

the third time I've watched it. So that's on their

41:29

last time you recommended a documentary. All the Beauty in

41:33

the Bloodshed was one of my favorite things. Oh, I'm glad,

41:36

So I'm glad. I called him Morgan is so beautiful

41:39

and it's it's based on this guy who met this

41:42

woman who was taking a class from him at like

41:45

a community college and I can't Mississippi or South Carolina

41:50

or somewhere, and she was like in in her fifties

41:53

or something, and he just became friends with her and

41:56

asked her what her history was, and she just told

42:00

him the story and he was like, what you know,

42:03

like can I record you? Saying? Can I interview you?

42:05

And he had an audio cassette And this whole documentary

42:08

is based around this audio cassette of this interview he

42:11

got with this woman. And if he hadn't taken the

42:13

time to ask her where she came from, because I

42:15

think it was like a maybe it was a musical

42:17

appreciation class or something at a community college. I'm probably

42:20

getting that wrong, but it was something where he was like, oh,

42:22

what makes you interested in jazz or something? And then

42:24

she told him this story, and and Lee Morgan's music's

42:28

incredible too, and just also just getting into like how

42:31

sad it is that, you know, the Internet has shattered

42:35

like culture to the point where there's no more like

42:38

little ecosystems that exist, Like jazz was such a fucking

42:41

awesome yeah in the fifties and sixties, like forties, fifties, sixties, thirties, whatever,

42:47

just like a place you know where it's just an

42:50

amazing place where where you know, yeah, I don't know,

42:55

it's just yeah, avant garde musical exploration was like a

42:59

lot of that was really happen. Yeah, and run by

43:02

African Americans, like fucking you know, like like an unbelievable

43:06

like a subculture, like cultures, different cultures, like you know, yeah,

43:10

in the same country or I mean, it doesn't matter,

43:13

you'll get it from the from the documentary. It's a

43:15

beautiful documentary. So then the little like local community colleges

43:19

and city colleges. Yeah, and that professor, and the professor

43:23

just said, hey man, you're an older lady. What are

43:25

you doing taking this class or whatever. It's like, well

43:28

this happened, and he's like, oh my god. And then

43:30

he has this one dusty cassette and they show him

43:33

in his house, the professor guy with dreadlocks and stuff,

43:38

and his he has the dustiest boom box. It made

43:44

me like, I was like, my god, this makes me

43:46

feel better about how dusty my shit is. I mean,

43:47

he has the dustiest tape and the dustiest boom box

43:50

I ever saw, and right, and like the only things

43:52

that don't have dust on it are the play pause,

43:54

stop button and volume. Mae's unbelievable. Unbelievable. I mean, the

43:58

thing was like coated and dust so overrated. I was

44:01

just gonna say, federal politics as opposed to local federal

44:04

politics at this point is just like a full on

44:07

distraction of people just yelling at each other. They're not

44:09

even legislating. So everything should be local. Everybody should be

44:13

invested in local politics and state politics. And that's just

44:17

to tie into like talking about I have this new

44:20

thing on NPR and Nashville which we can talk about later.

44:24

Through the through the election, I kind of ended up

44:26

on an NPR show, a local NPR show with a

44:29

with my own like little feature called Nashville Confidential with

44:34

Chris Crofton and it's on twice a month on this

44:39

daily show here in Nashville called This is Nashville, but

44:41

it's it's on NPR, you know. So I'm like, yeah,

44:44

I'm like reaching a lot of people. Yeah. So I

44:49

did a whole one about my election that comes out

44:52

tomorrow and it's twenty five minutes long. So for twenty

44:55

five minutes, I'm going to be the only thing on

44:57

Nashville NPR. Oh wow, which is pretty I mean it's

45:00

a million person sort of reach. Yeah, oh yeah, Yeah,

45:04

that's a big universe of listeners. Radio is still real, man,

45:07

still reaching people. And I love hearing that, Chris. But

45:10

so where's our cut? Well, you know we can talk

45:17

about that off the air, some pale dude. That's so wait.

45:21

So just from when you were like obviously you were

45:26

getting a lot of attention because you're so outspoken and

45:29

of completely shattering the mold of like yeah, no person

45:32

pursuing office like that, like just by virtue of that,

45:35

they were like, hey, we would love to hear more

45:37

from you. Is that kind of how it worked out, well,

45:39

it was really through the book originally, but when I

45:41

came back to Nashville, I was a featured author at

45:43

the Southern Festival Books, which is what I used as

45:45

like my sort of gold date to be back in

45:47

Nashville from LA because I was dragging my feet about

45:49

just like fucking packing, right, So I was like, I

45:51

have to be back in Nashville by October sixteenth for

45:54

this Southern Festival Books, which I you can only imaginehe

45:57

I had in my head that I was going to

45:58

ride it on an elephant the Keys to the City

46:01

or something. Instead of spoke, I spoke in an upstairs

46:05

conference room at the library to like eleven people, two

46:08

of which were my mom and my brother. You know,

46:10

it's actually a pretty good turnout for it. Yeah, it

46:12

was like, you know, it was like I forgot it.

46:14

It's like books, so you know what's gonna come so

46:19

unless you're like Oprah or whatever. But after it was over,

46:22

I met this woman who ran the show This is Nashville,

46:24

which was this new it's like the flagship. They're trying

46:27

to basically make a show in Nashville that would maybe

46:30

even be picked up nationally. It's called This is Nashville.

46:33

It's a live, five day a week at noon talk show,

46:37

call in show, having guests live. It's live. It's the

46:40

main thing. It's like a live daily show. They fired

46:44

the lady who originally got me involved in the show.

46:48

She was the executive producer, so it was like this

46:50

big thing. I was not a part of the show

46:52

at that point. I had done one report for her.

46:55

I ended up doing a report on Mule Day because

46:57

I said to this woman Andrea, she like my book,

47:00

so I said, hey, do you guys need a correspondent

47:03

for the show like that would do stuff that's kind

47:05

of odd, you know, like Mule Day or the catfish

47:08

races in Paris, Tennessee, or like the bell Witch Cave.

47:13

And she was like, I don't know what any of

47:15

that is because she had just come in to run

47:16

that show from Kansas City. So I saw an opening

47:19

because I was like, you're this is a person from

47:20

Kansas City, so she's not going to know this like

47:22

Nationville stuff. So she was nice enough to bring me

47:24

on for Mule Day, which you guys can find. I

47:28

could share it somehow or when I post the show

47:30

on my on my Instagram. I'll put links to it

47:32

or whatever. But yeah, yeah, I've already promoted it on

47:35

my show. But it's me going to Mule Day and

47:36

interviewing people with a with a you know, just like

47:38

a fucking zoom recorder. What is Mule Day. It's a festival.

47:42

It's been going on since the eighteen forties in rural

47:46

like an hour outside of Nashville. And it's just like

47:48

a mule parade, and like, yeah, people camp out all

47:51

week and they have like cover bands and stuff. You know.

47:54

It's just kind of a jamboree that I always read

47:56

about when I lived here in the early two thousands,

47:59

and I want wonder what it was about. So anyway,

48:02

the new guy, the guy who's in charge of the

48:04

show now, just said, hey, I love that Mule Day thing.

48:06

Would you like to do a regular thing? So I said,

48:09

hell yeah. And I think the election helped, just in

48:12

the sense that thirteen thousand votes meant I had an audience.

48:15

I think, you know, I think that was just sort

48:18

of a I don't think they maybe looked at it

48:20

that cynically, but I mean, I think you could say

48:23

my whole report tomorrow is about fascism and it's going

48:25

to be on the fucking radio. Wow. And it's it's

48:28

very very because that's what I ran on. But the

48:30

thing is, when I ran on it, people loved that message.

48:35

I mean they were dying for it, you know what

48:36

I mean. That's the thing is like if I just

48:38

went to them, I think if I hadn't run with this, like, oh,

48:42

I just want to talk to talk about fascism for

48:44

twenty five minutes, They're like, who the fuck are you? Yeah,

48:46

they might say like, well, well, you know, but I

48:49

had people thanking me for saying the things we took,

48:53

the things you talk about on this show all the time,

48:55

just like that. Billionaires have corrupted things to the point

48:58

where if you are dealing with the definition of fascism,

49:03

like the economic version of fascism is just private interest

49:07

taking over the ostensibly public government. And you know, we

49:11

couldn't have that worse right, And that's why the federal

49:13

government is like such a joke. I mean, it's just

49:15

like been everyone there has been paid to do nothing,

49:17

I mean, just to jam stuff up, so there's just

49:19

no way to even legislate. So now I realized, shit,

49:24

I'm doing this report about why I ran for office.

49:26

That's what the one that's coming out tomorrow is, And

49:29

why I ran for office is because I looked at

49:31

the roads in my neighborhood, and I looked at the

49:33

unhoused people in my neighborhood. And then I realized that

49:35

they were giving you know, like over a billion dollars

49:39

in public money to the NFL to build a new stadium.

49:42

And I was just like, this doesn't compute, you know

49:44

what I mean. That was how it really started for me.

49:46

So I went and asked this guy. I just parked

49:49

my car. I was like, I'm going to talk to

49:51

this guy. So I ran down there with this microphone.

49:53

They gave me this all in one microphone that has

49:55

a what do you call it, a SD card in

49:58

the bottom of it. It's like a standalone levels itself.

50:01

It's called a yellow Tech. I don't know anyways, just

50:04

a one for me. It's like you know, old man journalists.

50:07

I mean, it's like press one button and you don't

50:09

have to do anything right right, and it's all in there,

50:11

I mean except forget someone to take the SD card

50:13

out with a pair of tweezers or whatever and put

50:14

it in them in the in the beat tradition, whatever

50:17

happens to those SD cards after you've taken out of

50:19

the I have no idea. Whatever you have to make, yeah,

50:22

and then you put it in, Yeah, you drop it

50:24

in the federal nail box. What kind of SD card

50:25

is it? Tool top? Who knows? Yeah, it could be.

50:28

I think it's a toll charge. I think it's a

50:29

large Yeah. Yeah, it's like a standard super dupe. I

50:33

was the stands for super Dupa, right, yeah? Yeah, yeah,

50:36

standard super duper cards. So I just yeah, I send

50:38

that straight to I take it to either photo mat

50:41

or and I asked the kind guy there to help me,

50:45

please here, Yeah, I'd like to develop this SD card.

50:49

Oh jeez, he's back. Yeah, the guy who has the

50:52

audio files on the SD card, Yeah, I don't know.

50:55

He doesn't have an email, he says. So if you

50:58

guys listen, I will send you guys the thing for

51:01

tomorrow when it's when it's out and they tomorrow being

51:04

Friday or tomorrow tomorrow being you guys are this show

51:07

is going to be on next tuesdayisoe? Yeah? This is

51:09

tomorrow's Thursday in real life, tomorrow's Thanksgiving, So it's coming

51:13

out on Thanksgiving and then there's a and the show

51:16

is called This is Nashville and the host is named

51:18

Khalil Echlone. Well we'll link off to this on Tuesday. Yeah. Well, Christy,

51:23

now there's there's some really I think consequential news in

51:28

the world of music that we also really we must

51:30

get your take. We have to get your take on

51:34

you remember Hall and Oats, we and yeahs I've seen

51:42

Oats is mustache and a bag at the Rock and

51:45

Roll Hall of Fame. Is that real? No, it's not.

51:51

That would be But then you're like dismantled, so it

51:56

just looks like a bag of hair. It is like

52:00

he didn't want it reconstructed. Our writer JM calls Hall

52:04

of Notes your parents dentist's favorite musical duo. I it's not,

52:11

I think right, Well then I'm guessing I'm your parents'

52:15

favorite dentist. Or case that was like a seventeen year

52:20

old who's never done anything separate play video games. Yeah

52:22

that's right. Hall and Oates are no Minecraft. No, but

52:28

all of Notes have some hits. What happened to jazz man,

52:31

holloas jazz and yacht rock? Baby? But right now, Hall

52:37

is suing Oats, though nobody knows exactly why. Court documents

52:41

are sealed, but it's just been revealed that Hall filed

52:44

emotion for a temporary restraining order against Oates and Darryl

52:49

Hall apparently went on Bill Maher's Club random show last year,

52:54

Switch Again. It looks like, yeah, just an anthropomorphic can

52:59

of XE bodies right, the renovated suburb room. It's so awful.

53:06

But anyways, it's like Bill Maher and his other really friends,

53:13

like famous friends who are like everyone else is a

53:15

fucking idiot except us, right right right, Daryl Hall narcissist exactly. Man.

53:23

Every single version was like that has gotten into like

53:25

cancel culture, Like you know, I'm sure yeah Hall is

53:27

probably like I'm so tired of being told what to do? Yes,

53:30

of course, I mean was it. I mean, from my perspective, right,

53:34

Daryl Hall, I was like just narrowly. I was like, well,

53:37

he was the one whose voice was killing it all

53:40

the time, so I'm like, that's that's the guy. And

53:43

what we're just saying, like John Oates was just kind

53:45

of like they get like you're just playing guitar right

53:47

and backing them up, Like is there like was the

53:51

perception like John Oates wasn't doing much like Daryl Hall was,

53:54

because like the way Daryl Hall talks, he talks like

53:56

he talks like he's like I was doing all the

53:58

heavy lifting. Okay, we were just making some ship. You've

54:01

heard him say that he's acting like that for real.

54:04

Darryl Hall said, you think John Oates is my partner.

54:07

He's my business partner. He's not my creative partner. Okay, yeah,

54:13

oh my god. Yeah, So like he's treating he's treating

54:18

John Oates like he's our Garfunkle. Yeah, I guess. So, yeah,

54:21

he's trying to do how it has gone down in

54:25

pop culture. His like there's that comedy band Garfunkle and Oates,

54:30

that's like these are the also rams right famous duos.

54:34

But oh right, I didn't even get that. Oh my god.

54:37

I just you just explained that I've never understood that.

54:39

I was like Garfunkle and Oates is somehow just because

54:41

I was involved in the Los Angeles comedy scene. They

54:44

were in my you know, yeah never, but I was like,

54:46

I get it. Kate mccoochee and Ricky Lindhome, right, you

54:50

never got it. I never understood. Man, that's one those

55:00

graduate school jokes. Yeah, to your point, like Darryl Hills

55:05

or Darryl Hall always seemed like both the one who

55:10

gets the most credit and also the one who's probably

55:14

the most has the most public facing sociopathic tendencies and right,

55:20

so it's always interesting to take a step back and

55:23

be like, is he really deserves the credit? Did they

55:26

say why oats or no? Everyone's like it's completely flabbergasted. Two. Yeah,

55:34

it's just like he's getting a restraining order and they're

55:37

like everyone's just describing as like mysterious. I don't know

55:40

if it's under seal. Okay, well I don't Darryl Hall,

55:45

you know, I think at one time was was was

55:48

probably a nice person, but I mean, he seems like

55:51

ever since he started having that show live at Darryl's house,

55:54

I think was off the air now for a while,

55:56

but it was on time six years from I'm not

56:00

familiar with us. It was a fucking it was like

56:03

come fucking worship me at my house and we'll perform

56:07

a little bit. But also like see low like all

56:10

kinds of artists would go and perform and like they

56:13

would maybe do one of their songs, you do what

56:14

maybe do a Holland Oaates cover and then just like

56:17

talk about like just talking like with Darryl and his

56:20

like you know session guys that he's with. Yeah, and

56:23

like some sort of like studio made of repossessed barnwood

56:27

or you know, ress repurposed, repurpose repossessed barn woods a

56:33

different thing. That's when you get to take it back.

56:37

But you know, it was a nasty show in the

56:39

sense that it was like I saw the side of

56:41

Darryl Hall where it's like he won't he thinks people

56:43

want to watch meat dinner, you know, like they ate

56:46

dinner on the show and drank wine on the show.

56:48

And it's the same way I felt about watching that

56:49

show with any any show where rich people eat food

56:53

and that's the show. Is like I can't even make

56:56

me so angry. I can't even Who's the guy who

56:58

directed like Spider Man and all also like Swingers, John

57:02

John Favreau. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that guy, Like he had

57:05

a show where it was like dinner with John Favreau

57:07

And I immediately I had nothing against John favreaull and

57:09

I immediately hated, Like I was like that motherfucker right

57:14

that you get and the podcasting. Yeah, no, just like

57:19

I'm a rich person and people will necessarily be interested

57:23

in seeing me hang out with my friends, and because

57:27

like you know, my other friends are also rich and

57:28

famous too, so like in that way they could hang out. Yeah,

57:31

just Daryl, No, Daryl Hall, just Daryl Hall. In that

57:34

on that show, you realized he had become so surrounded

57:37

with douchebags that he obviously thought he was like the

57:41

ruler of the earth. He was so surrounded by yes people,

57:43

and he's in his bubble. He probably never hasked to

57:45

leave his compound, and then just people, famous people come

57:48

visit him, like yeah, promo show. You know, you'd be

57:51

on Darryl Hall's show, and John Oates was nowhere to

57:54

be seen on that show. So I don't know where

57:55

John Oates was, but he was not getting any of

57:58

that money, I don't think from a live at Darryl's house.

58:02

He pitched live at Oates's house and nobody's like sorry, sorry, Yeah,

58:06

they're like what's called called bowl of oats with John

58:10

Oates's meal, live with his back house, right and Oates's

58:17

grain shed. Oh boy. But like the fucking the Darryl.

58:22

There's one Live at Daryl's House episode that I will

58:25

never like. Back when there was like DVR t VO

58:28

type shit, I always kept it on there because there's

58:30

an episode where se Lo is performing at his house

58:33

and se Lo is a fucking obviously like his he's

58:36

like a great like he can sing right and they're

58:39

singing I can't go for that, and like Selo is

58:42

just like doing his own version, put a little spice

58:45

on it, and then you can tell Darryl Hall is

58:48

kind of like he's like, this fucking guy thinks he's

58:51

gonna fucking outdo me. This shit's called Live at Darryl's House.

58:55

And then Darryl Hall comes in for like the second verse,

58:57

and the way he comes in, it's like you can

59:00

tell he's like, I gotta summon every bit of energy.

59:02

I have to fucking just blow out se Loo right

59:05

now because he's out doing me on my own show.

59:07

And I was like, ah, but when I saw that,

59:09

I was like, Okay, you can't even. You can't even

59:11

just the monitors pointing to his headphones being like take

59:15

me up, take me out, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I

59:18

can't go no. Yeah. He goes, I can't go for

59:21

being and like he just tried. Yeah anyway, so you

59:27

hate to see it, but who knows. I'm sure it

59:29

all it's probably all boiling down to some disagreement over

59:31

like rights and Royal going to get more money or so,

59:34

or maybe John Oates like like performed a songs. What

59:38

I fucking say, John? Or yeah, John Oates said, like

59:41

John Oates implied that he Well, I guess you couldn't

59:45

sue someone for just implying that they wrote more than

59:47

or something, right, But John Oates is probably the victim here,

59:52

I'm guessing. I mean, the guy's been second banana already,

59:55

and for this guy to sue him on top of

59:56

that just seems cruel and unusual, especially when he has

59:59

all that Darryl Garrel's house money and he's been eating

1:00:03

lobster on TV while while Oats is at home eating

1:00:06

TV dinners. Yeah yeah, you know, with this half the

1:00:09

money nothing more humbles. Yeah, So come Hall versus Oats loser? Yeah,

1:00:22

you want to hang out, You want to have a

1:00:26

drink in this hall or you want to hang out

1:00:28

in some Oats, so Hall said. So Hall and Oates

1:00:33

have this song called don't I'm just a kid. Don't

1:00:35

make me feel like a man on one of their

1:00:37

earlier records, which is a I think it's on Abandoned

1:00:39

luncheon At. Their early stuff is great. I think they

1:00:42

were probably nice back then, both of them, maybe because

1:00:44

they were like came up from you know, nothing, really.

1:00:47

I don't think any of them like their dad was

1:00:49

anybody or anything. I think they just came up from

1:00:51

Philadelphia and they loved R and B and they they

1:00:54

you know, they made some good R and B songs,

1:00:57

and then they they were also kind of a little

1:00:59

folk here and the beginning and that that's Abandoned Luncheonet,

1:01:02

which is my shit. It's kind of like easy listening

1:01:03

kind of stuff. When the morning comes, there's a song

1:01:06

I recommend highly off of band in Lunchonet. Anyway, they

1:01:10

the hell am I talking about brain wipe? Remember when

1:01:15

I had a brain wipe? We had to stop the

1:01:16

show and I'd eat a hard John Oates, is that

1:01:22

where you're gonna say? Oh? So I had a radio

1:01:25

show in Nashville and I was always trying to get

1:01:27

the guys from Bread to call in the band Bread Ye.

1:01:29

The show was called Yah Yes, It was on from

1:01:32

two thousand and five thousand and nine, and we realized

1:01:35

we had no nobody listening to us, like nobody from management,

1:01:38

so we just went crazy. And anyway, they I was

1:01:41

just trying to get Bread to call in because I

1:01:42

knew a couple of the guys from the band Bread

1:01:44

lived in Nashville, and no one ever did. But one

1:01:46

time I played I'm just a kid, Don't make Me

1:01:48

Feel like a man, and I was like, that sounds creepy.

1:01:51

And we got a phone call from one of the

1:01:53

guys who played in the Hall and Oates band, and

1:01:56

he said, we were all like thirty and we had

1:01:59

to play that song and it gave us the creeps,

1:02:01

and we we also think that sounds creepy. That was

1:02:04

that was like for me, that felt like, I don't know,

1:02:06

they agreed, that felt like finding a whole teapot under

1:02:10

the planes, a tool top tea pot, tool top, teapot

1:02:15

top Pothecary from the Dakota Territories Chris crofton amazing having

1:02:20

you as always so fun. I miss you, guys, but

1:02:23

I'm so glad to be back on And you guys

1:02:24

are looking good. You guys are looking good. Yeah, it's

1:02:28

just like preserved an amber, thank you like a mosquito

1:02:31

from Joined and said that you were surprised that we

1:02:34

were still alive. Yeah, that's a great way to enter

1:02:37

any conversation, you old son of a bitch. I can't

1:02:42

believe you're still seeing you only in these little cube screens.

1:02:46

I don't know where you are. You're not watching Welcome

1:02:50

to Jack's House on YouTube. Yeah, you're not catching me there.

1:02:54

Oh you gotta check it out, man. This is like

1:02:56

you eating lobster with like me eating tom Ardold or whatever.

1:03:01

It's meeting lobster with various canceled celebrity friends of mine.

1:03:05

Oh wow, that's a good show. Oh yeah, Oh that's

1:03:09

just like a total hate watch. It's Tucker Carlson, Roseanne

1:03:15

and like Doja Cat eating lobster or something. You're like,

1:03:18

what the fuck is? And Jack be like, I'm not

1:03:20

with these guys, but this is my house and I

1:03:23

didn't fight them. Where Chris can people find you and

1:03:27

follow you? You can find me at the crofton show

1:03:30

on Twitter and you can find me well Twitter, what's

1:03:33

left a twitter x? You can find me in aux Yeah,

1:03:36

at the crofton Show at at Instagram whatever Instagram at

1:03:41

the Crofton Show. And then you can go find my book,

1:03:44

The Advice King Anthology. Just get it from Amazon. You

1:03:47

don't have to buy it from Vanderbilt University. Just please

1:03:49

get it in your hands. I went on a tour

1:03:51

with Neil Hamburger recently and I sold twenty books in

1:03:54

four days to dive Barrow people. You would get a

1:03:57

dive bar person buying a book a hell of an

1:04:00

experience like this guy. I know I don't look like

1:04:04

I read, but I'm like, you know, I'll read it

1:04:06

right now. So exactly, he was so drunk he said

1:04:15

he read books and bought a book. So go buy

1:04:19

The Advice King Anthology. I don't care how you get it.

1:04:21

It's a great Christmas present, great Christmas present. So, uh,

1:04:25

The Advice King Anthology. And I don't care if you

1:04:27

buy from Amazon. Go ahead, and uh, I mean, because

1:04:30

it's got the information in it that will overthrow Amazon.

1:04:33

And also that's it. Just go listen to This is

1:04:36

Nashville and I'll link to that and all my I'll

1:04:39

send Jack and Miles the links. Yeah, and go overthrow Amazon.

1:04:46

Is there work a media that you've been enjoying you know,

1:04:50

I'm just going to say, because I'm never good at

1:04:52

finding that the things anymore, I'm just gonna say, check

1:04:55

out Neil Hamburger's new record because he's he's made a

1:04:58

record with like he wrote the lyrics and his friend

1:05:01

Eric Poparosi, who plays drums sorry guitar in the Cat

1:05:04

Power Band, wrote the music, and he has guest vocalists,

1:05:08

so like he has like a Bonnie Prince Billy and

1:05:10

that Puddles the clown guy And anyway, it's just kind

1:05:13

of a really interesting, really interesting record, and it's a

1:05:18

sweet it's like a theme album about spending Christmas in

1:05:22

a cheap motel and it's called Seasonal Depression. Sweet. And

1:05:26

I just did this tour with Greg Turkington for one

1:05:29

five day tour in October and it was the greatest

1:05:32

experience ever. And just to let people know that Greg

1:05:35

is such a nice guy and I want to support

1:05:38

his project. Amazing Miles. Where can people find you as

1:05:41

their workidmedia you've been enjoying, Uh, find me on the

1:05:46

at base places like Twitter, Instagram, threads, even at Miles

1:05:52

Gray threads, even cutting Edge. You know you know what

1:05:56

it is and let's see you find Jack and I

1:05:58

obviously on the basketball podcast the NBA Boosties, where we

1:06:03

were talking all kinds of basketball going on fresh smack,

1:06:09

you know, cool stuff, neat cool stuff, neat stuff. Is

1:06:13

it Bowfinger where it's I think it's Steve Martin says,

1:06:16

your smack is so fresh. I don't know you so

1:06:22

fresh man. That Eddie like the nerd version of Eddie

1:06:27

or the other route. Let me see if I just

1:06:29

I just love that scene where we have to cross

1:06:31

the freeway. Yeah, anyway, and then you can find me

1:06:36

on four twenty with Sophia Alexander or we talk about

1:06:39

ninety day Fiance and hey, if you're taking you know

1:06:42

you're hitting the road, you want to listen to some

1:06:44

easy true crime stuff that's not about people getting murdered

1:06:46

and it's actually cool. Check out The Good Thief. I

1:06:48

host that, and it's about our search for the Greek

1:06:50

robin Hood. Let's see I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:06:54

it's about this guy who's broke out of greases like

1:06:59

equip of Alcatraze many times by helicopter and then would

1:07:03

like kidnap billionaires. The helicopter prison escape. Underrated art that

1:07:09

Europe is really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's

1:07:12

just weird. I think because it's everything is so militarized

1:07:15

here that like you can get away with me, Like yeah,

1:07:16

you just fly a fucking helicopter into a prison yard

1:07:19

and take off with somebody and then let's see a

1:07:22

piece of media. Like I don't know if I'm gonna

1:07:24

like it, but I believe the squid Game, the real

1:07:28

life Squid Game, fucking TV challenge shows is out and

1:07:33

I'm going to watch that on Wednesday. I think, Oh,

1:07:36

did you see it? No, Jam, start watching it though,

1:07:40

oh oh yes, we talked about it together, Miles. I know,

1:07:43

but I'm saying I'm going to watch it, like now

1:07:46

I know that, I know, I know what the talk

1:07:48

about it is, but now I need to see with

1:07:51

my own eyes, myne own eyes, exactly exactly. So yeah,

1:07:55

I'm gonna well, I'm gonna check in on that probably.

1:07:59

By the way, you're sa So Fresh is from John

1:08:02

mcginley's performance as the Jim Rome character in Any Given

1:08:08

Sunday talking to Willie Beamon so fresh, so long time

1:08:14

and truthful, give me a pound dog, and Willy Bean's like,

1:08:17

what the fuck that should have been? In my head.

1:08:25

We went from Bowfinger to Oliver Stones football movie. Hey man,

1:08:30

there's some there's some brilliant moments in any given Sunday

1:08:33

and also overall not a great movie. No. But you

1:08:36

can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien some

1:08:40

tweets I've been enjoying. Obviously, I've been liking a lot

1:08:44

of Dan White just generally, Damn White never steers me wrong.

1:08:49

And I also liked this tweet in regards to the

1:08:52

story that we talked about. You know, Variety posted Darryl

1:08:56

Hall gets her staying order against John Oates and Hall

1:08:59

of Oates legal battle, and then Sam Stefanik retweeted that

1:09:03

and said, Ryan Murphy types the words Haul versus Oh,

1:09:06

it's so hard that all his fingers fracture. Probably half mate. Uh.

1:09:12

You can find us on Twitter at daily zeikes ad D,

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episodes and our footnote. We look off the information that

1:09:23

we talked about in today's episode, as well as a

1:09:25

song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there

1:09:30

a song that you think people might enjoy. I think

1:09:32

there're gonna enjoy this one. This is an artist called

1:09:34

jazz Tronic t r n O I t r o

1:09:38

n I k Uh and he's this Japanese DJ who's

1:09:41

like just putting together like fusiony jazz beats together repurposed

1:09:46

and it's like really really interesting. This track is called

1:09:49

kee Zudu h I zu are you and it's the

1:09:53

jazz Tronic remix. So just try that on, you know,

1:09:56

some some wacky stuff. So what happened to jazz? Well,

1:09:58

it's people flipping it making stuff with it today. All right,

1:10:02

Well we will link off to that in the footnotes.

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episode 2: Chris Crofton: Mob Ties 11.28.23
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The Daily Zeitgeist

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episode 2: Chris Crofton: Mob Ties 11.28.23 [transcript]

episode 2: Chris Crofton: Mob Ties 11.28.23
[transcript]