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In episode 1617, Jack and Miles are joined by writer and comedian, Laurie Kilmartin, to discuss… In This Edition of You Hate to See It Folks… Elon Musk Loses Out On $55 Billion Payday & For Some Reason Nobody Wants To Give Krysten Sinema Any Money, ZYNsurrection!!!!, Suck It Titanic: The World’s Largest Cruise Ship Is Here and more!

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 February 1, 2024  1h4m
 
 
00:00   Speaker 1
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, twenty three,
00:03
Episode four of Dally's Like Ice Day.
00:06   Speaker 2
Production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take
00:10
a deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it is Thursday,
00:14
February first, twenty twenty four.
00:17   Speaker 1
Black History Months. Made it through, he made it through
00:20
Jebruary and guess what else it is. It's a little
00:23
interesting because it's Black History Month. I'm like sort of
00:25
looking at some of these days. Is also National Dark
00:27
Chocolate Day. I'm like, this was wait, what the fuck?
00:30
What's the chocolate Loby trying to do right now? It's
00:32
also like National Freedom Day.
00:35   Speaker 3
I get that.
00:36   Speaker 4
Also National Get Up Day, and not like in a
00:39
James Brown kind of way. It's just it's a picture
00:41
of someone who's a figure skater who's falling, and I
00:44
think it's about just dusting yourself off and getting back up.
00:47
It's also Optimist Day, It's National Texas Day, It's National
00:52
Serpent Day.
00:53   Speaker 3
So you got a little bit of everything.
00:55   Speaker 1
Okay, Well, happy those days to all of you. My
00:59
name's Jacko ban aka Elmo. Gonna Knock Bird Out. Elmo
01:04
say knock you out? Or I guess you could do
01:07
it as Elmo if you had a good Almo I
01:10
do yeah, but Miles does. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be
01:13
joined as always by my co.
01:15   Speaker 4
Host, mister Miles Gray Miles Gray aka Elmo.
01:20   Speaker 1
He would lose in a fight, I said, Big Bird,
01:24
he don't need a fucking knife. I said, Rocco, Big Bird,
01:28
defend this rock. Let's put ma need on this bra
01:34
all Bro says some He Street Fight Club Big Bird.
01:39
Elmo says some He street by Club Elmo, big Bird Bird.
01:45   Speaker 3
What what t shirt contest or not for watching you die?
01:50   Speaker 1
You can battle this pup and my guy Okay shout
01:53
out to h E's Secret Full twelve twenty nine, because
01:56
again all the trauma dumping on Elmo really brought us
01:59
to a a much more in depth debate about can
02:03
Big Bird beat up? Who would win in just a
02:05
no holds barred deathmatch? Would be a Bird triumph over Elmo?
02:09
Does Almo fight dirty? And that's how Almo triumphs?
02:12   Speaker 4
And we spent not even enough time really trying to
02:15
get to the bottom of that question.
02:16   Speaker 1
I mean, Elmo came through. Big Bird was trying to
02:19
do something on social media. He had like five days
02:22
where he was no longer big. He was the size
02:23
of an insect. He was picking up some traction and
02:27
then Elmo comes through and is just like, hey, how's
02:32
anyone we're doing, and like the internet breaks, Everyone's just like, oh,
02:37
so I think this fight is like not far off,
02:41
because like that had to have been humiliating.
02:44   Speaker 3
For Big Bird.
02:46   Speaker 1
The engagement, the engagement for Elmo after Big Bird put
02:49
in so much work to metamorphosis his self TOFKA style. Also,
02:56
Willie Kay was my aka courtesy of Willy Kem.
03:00   Speaker 3
Yeah.
03:01   Speaker 1
Anyways, we are thrilled, blessed to be joined once again,
03:06
yes in our third seat by an Emmy nominated writer,
03:10
a New York Times bestselling author, podcast host, one of
03:14
the best stand up comics doing it anywhere. It's Laurie
03:17
kil Marta.
03:18   Speaker 5
La. Oh my god, I'm so excited. Thanks for having
03:22
me back. Guys.
03:23   Speaker 3
Oh no, god, thanks for literally been too long.
03:26   Speaker 1
May twenty ninth, twenty eighteen, was the last time we
03:30
were engaged in.
03:31   Speaker 5
Yeah, wasn't I on a rooftop?
03:35   Speaker 3
Correct?
03:35   Speaker 4
Yes, yes, exactly in Hollywood and we took up just
03:39
an iconic photo together. It's just weird, the things we
03:43
were talking about just you know, this is these were
03:45
the things we were talking about that episode. The cancelation
03:48
of Roseanne.
03:49   Speaker 3
Okay, wow, Ted.
03:51   Speaker 1
Cruise, it just doesn't seem that long ago.
03:53   Speaker 3
Yeah.
03:54   Speaker 4
Oh, the Ted Cruz sports curse came back around on
03:57
that one, cursing the Houston Rockets.
04:00   Speaker 3
Oh wow, we just talked about that again.
04:02   Speaker 1
Yeah, Rudy Giuliani being booed on his birthday at a
04:05
Yankees game, and just grim facts about Hurricane Maria and
04:08
Puerto Rico.
04:09   Speaker 4
So yeah, this is fuck and the news come back.
04:13   Speaker 5
Yeah, welcome, Thank you more more Rudy news. Apparently in
04:17
the last last year, he made eighteen thousand dollars. That
04:21
was how much he earned.
04:22   Speaker 1
That was that's what he met, That's what he me.
04:25
Because I feel like he's probably underwater a little. It
04:27
didn't get sued for like one hundred million dollars a.
04:30   Speaker 3
Lot of book.
04:31   Speaker 5
I think that info is part of like the revelations,
04:34
you know, like how he's gonna he's gonna have to
04:36
sell some stuff obviously. Yeah, pieces of the towers. I'm
04:41
sure that he kept.
04:44   Speaker 1
Pet yes, right, coming home with pockets full of rubble
04:50
every day.
04:50   Speaker 5
Ground he's wearing cargo pants to the pile and just
04:53
putting stuff in.
04:54   Speaker 1
Yeah, that man looks strange. In short, I will say
05:01
you should not be wearing cargo pants.
05:02   Speaker 4
Or really truly truly and you got and you got
05:05
the special Cis Will Grief Slut too.
05:07   Speaker 5
I do. I have a new special that dropped on
05:11
on Tuesday the thirtieth. Yeah. Yeah, it's called Cis Grief
05:14
Slut and uh it's available on my website Lori Kilmartin
05:18
dot com on all platforms. Comedy Dynamic pushed it out
05:21
to you know, like when you do one of those specials,
05:24
you sort of do a lot of promo ads afterwards.
05:26
And it was like Apple TV, Amazon Plus, and then
05:29
I was like Samsung TV Plus and then it just
05:33
got into like Niner Appliances and a four. But any
05:36
place you can see something, you can probably catch it.
05:39   Speaker 4
Watch this on your LG washing machine.
05:42   Speaker 3
Yes, I watched it.
05:43   Speaker 1
On my refrigerator.
05:44   Speaker 3
It was good.
05:47   Speaker 1
The tiny little screen that tells you when it's time
05:49
to buy new Eggs and also you can watch special.
05:53   Speaker 3
Wait is that a thing they'll tell you when to
05:55
buy new Eggs?
05:56   Speaker 1
I think that's one of the promises of the smart
05:58
refrigerator is that it will like remind you to order
06:02
new ship.
06:03   Speaker 3
Oh okay, I think I meant.
06:07   Speaker 4
I don't know, like it had some kind of egg
06:09
sensor technology, like, hey, hey these eggs, these get.
06:12   Speaker 3
On getting laid on eggs.
06:14   Speaker 5
Brother, Yeah, if you put your maybe if you put
06:16
your them in the egg place. I don't know anyone
06:18
that does that. Actually, I just put them in there
06:21
and then the egg place I leave change or Nikeys
06:24
or whatever.
06:24   Speaker 1
That ship's full of ketchup packets my end, yes, right,
06:29
full of ketchup pockets butter packets, so in case we
06:34
have a run out of butter, you know, yeah, oh
06:36
just foil wrapped pads butter. But you're like every time
06:41
you're on a plane, you're like, yes, a couple more.
06:46
It's the currency of the future. Yeah, they're shiny. Look
06:50
how shiny they are, Laurie. We're going to get to
06:53
know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
06:55
we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things
06:57
we're talking about today. It's this is this is hard
07:01
to take. Okay, there's a couple of stories up top
07:03
that are hard to take. It's not just Rudy who's struggling.
07:07
Elon Musk was was due for a fifty five billion
07:13
dollar payday.
07:15   Speaker 3
Like he that was a.
07:17   Speaker 1
Fifty five billion dollar compensation package designed by let me
07:20
read this, Elon Musk. Elon Musk designed and he a
07:30
judge just reached out and was like, that seems like
07:33
a lot, guys, maybe we should rethink this, which kind
07:37
of gets me excited for a future where judges are
07:39
on the ground with the rest of us just like
07:41
looking up and being like, that's that seems like too much? Maybe, Yeah, Yeah,
07:49
the pages of fifty five billion. Anyways, we're gonna talk
07:53
about that. We're also going to talk about in more
07:56
You hate to see it, don't we, folks news, Kristen
07:59
Cinema is having trouble fundraising for her latest campaign, so
08:04
we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the Zinsurrection, the
08:07
nicotine delivery pouches, not tobacco, they're just like little powdered nicotine.
08:14   Speaker 4
Yeah, but kicking off the new culture War.
08:16   Speaker 1
Yeah, the latest, the latest front in the culture war.
08:21   Speaker 3
Somehow.
08:21   Speaker 1
We'll talk about the world's largest cruise ship, which is
08:24
now prowling the oceans deep right now. It's been described
08:29
as a monstrosity and human lasagna, so all of that
08:35
plenty more. But first, Laurie, we do like to ask
08:38
our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh?
08:43   Speaker 5
I guess right now, I'm very obsessed with what's happening
08:47
in the Royal family and Kate Middleton. I don't know
08:51
if you guys have been, She's in my search history.
08:54
I look for Kate Middleton constantly right now, as do
08:58
actual people looking for the actual Kate Middleton.
09:02   Speaker 4
Wait, did she have some kind of like medical procedure.
09:05   Speaker 6
I think the last surgery was like, here's what I know,
09:08
sink Charles and now Kate are in hospital and I'm like,
09:11
what in the hospital.
09:14   Speaker 5
If you like conspiracy theories, you got to go down
09:17
this rabbit hole. On December twenty eighth, no one's seen
09:20
her since Christmas? Okay, December twenty eighth, there was massive
09:25
ambulances leaving the area where Kensington Palace is where she lives, right, okay,
09:30
And then a couple of weeks later she was announced
09:33
as being in the hospital for a planned surgery that
09:36
was so planned that they had to they had to
09:38
cancel a bunch of things that she had scheduled.
09:40   Speaker 1
Oh no, and they think.
09:42   Speaker 5
Prince Charles announced his surgery to deflect from from like
09:47
the sense of what's what happened to Kate. The theories
09:51
are Prince William is an abuser and he attacked her
09:55
and she's hospitalized for that, or she had a break,
09:59
she had a break down, she has an eating disorder
10:01
or slash breakdown, or he filed for divorce and she
10:05
had a break and she just left because the whole
10:09
time she was in the hospital, none of her family
10:11
visited her. And he went to see her once for
10:13
fifteen minutes. Prince William and the kids are her mom, nobody.
10:18
It's so strange and they won't announce what's yeah so
10:22
and their explanation doesn't really make any sense. And now
10:25
they're like, well, she'll be out till past Easter, which
10:29
I don't know till No. Now she's recuperating at home.
10:34
But the press that like counts everybody all the time
10:38
somehow missciputating. Yes, So it's it's a real weird, weird
10:45
situation over there, and nobody, it's like the tabloids in
10:49
Britain are not presenting it that way. It's because they
10:52
suck up so much to the royal family.
10:54   Speaker 3
They're part of this ecosystem.
10:57   Speaker 5
Yes, so it's all it's all out like outsiders, you know,
11:01
Americans and a few, but yeah, yes, exactly.
11:08   Speaker 3
On the path.
11:11   Speaker 1
I don't know what abdominal surgery means to you, but.
11:15   Speaker 5
Oh I'm obsessed. I'm dying to know what's going on
11:19
over there.
11:19   Speaker 4
What do you think in your heart of hearts? What
11:22
do you think is going on?
11:23   Speaker 5
She is super thin. And here's the thing. She's not
11:27
likable either, because she's seems to have been really mean
11:30
to Mega Markle and slightly racist at least asking about
11:33
the skin color of Prince Archie. So she's not likable.
11:36
But she I would guess that she has an eating
11:39
disorder and she just and maybe the abdominal surgery has
11:44
something to do with that. The other thing is they
11:46
there's lots of photographs of her with her fingers covered
11:48
in bandages and as a former bliemix, that's those are
11:52
the the when she stick down and sometimes you do
11:55
have cuts on them.
11:56   Speaker 3
Oh my god.
11:57   Speaker 5
So that's my guess about Kate Middleton is she is
12:00
getting treatment for an nian disorder. She may have collapsed
12:03
from just weakness or something. Wow.
12:05   Speaker 4
Yeah, I mean the Shelley Misscabbage version is also intriguing
12:09
to where they're like she was disappeared.
12:12   Speaker 1
I have question mark written in my notes here two
12:16
miles really whenever.
12:19   Speaker 4
Yeah, like someone the like a spouse of someone very
12:22
powerful prominent, disappears dark suddenly. I'm like shage shows.
12:29   Speaker 1
Now, Like I feel like sometimes it's like maybe the
12:32
person just wants to be out of the public eye
12:34
and we should grant them that. In this case, it's
12:37
just weird that her family is not coming to visit
12:40
like that.
12:40   Speaker 5
Yeah, her mother, her sister, not, none of the kids
12:44
that like a mental breakdown.
12:46   Speaker 1
None of the kids is like fucked up. That's cruelty
12:49
to not let like not have your kids visit you
12:52
while you're in the hospital. Like that's that's a part
12:56
of healthcare, would be like being able to be around
12:59
your kids.
13:00   Speaker 5
Yeah, So if they if they don't want the kids
13:03
to see her in whatever state she's in you or
13:06
they're trying to just separate the kids from her. You know,
13:09
there's again so many little paths you can go down.
13:12
People people in certain Twitter circles that I follow are
13:16
post there. You know, there's a lot of positioning of
13:19
Prince William as a single dad now, and it's like
13:21
they're trying to get the public use to the fact
13:23
that she's not going to be part of it anymore.
13:25   Speaker 7
And so right, Yeah, it's weird because the kids, the
13:31
crown owns the kids, you know, like once she has
13:35
the kids, she's.
13:37   Speaker 4
Like, yeah, yeah, so they can go. They don't have
13:42
last names, miss.
13:50   Speaker 3
That she is.
13:52   Speaker 5
She does. She does not have the same rights with
13:53
their kids that I do with my kid, which is
13:57
really weird.
13:58   Speaker 4
You know, that's got to be r that's grim too,
14:01
because like, yeah, Princess Diana, right, also, like what had
14:04
trouble with eating disorders and like with her in her
14:06
time ascending to being in the royal family and all
14:09
the stress that comes along with.
14:11   Speaker 3
That's the thing.
14:11   Speaker 4
It's like there's so much dark shit going on with
14:14
the Royal family too that it feels like it could
14:16
be anything like honestly, and they may have traded her
14:19
like with aliens for some technology or some shit and
14:22
be like, yeah, I don't know, man, like they wanted
14:25
an infinite fuel source that they traded aliens for her
14:28
for they were big fans, I guess.
14:29   Speaker 1
Give us your princess, Yes, what is something you think
14:34
is overrated?
14:36   Speaker 5
Right now, I'm gonna say yoga is overrated because I've
14:40
been doing it a long time and I'm still really
14:42
tight in my hips and i do everything I'm supposed
14:45
to do, and I'm a little annoyed, like when does this?
14:48
When does this change?
14:50   Speaker 4
Is there is there a specific like is someone selling
14:54
you sham yoga and just kind of being like, yeah,
14:56
and that's yoga, Laurie.
14:57   Speaker 3
I'll be back next week and we'll just can then,
15:02
Like the.
15:02   Speaker 5
Teachers always, as you're doing the poses they promise you know,
15:06
this does this, this does this, and I do like
15:08
hot yoga and uh and I haven't improved on any
15:12
of my poses in years, no matter how how hard
15:14
I try. And it's really the hip tightness. And yeah,
15:18
i feel like I've been duped, but I'm also addicted,
15:21
so it won't end. I'll just be unsatisfied.
15:25   Speaker 1
I have a friend who is a yoga like teacher,
15:30
has been on the cover of like yoga magazines, is
15:32
like really like a yoga influencer and has had to
15:36
have hip surgery like multiple times because yoga is like
15:40
really fucking hard on the hips. I guess really.
15:45   Speaker 4
Those are and those are yoga yoga based injuries.
15:48   Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, wows like, man, you gotta quit the yoga, man, right,
15:54
you got to knock it off with the yoga.
15:56   Speaker 5
Is it possible? My hips are trying to save me.
15:58   Speaker 1
Yeah. Not like get us out of the hot room, right,
16:04
sit down on.
16:04   Speaker 5
A chair, try the lottis.
16:08   Speaker 1
Yeah yeah.
16:08   Speaker 3
They're like, yeah, reformer will work. Wonders.
16:10   Speaker 4
They're like, the hips are telling you, like Laurie, where
16:13
this is it for us? We're where we're at it,
16:15
so let's not let's not go any further standing.
16:18   Speaker 5
Bow is not for you, so stop drying. Yo. It's interesting.
16:21
I didn't realize that.
16:23   Speaker 4
I wonder if you could seek damages like that.
16:25   Speaker 1
We're like, you know, I've been doing yoga for years,
16:28
look at my range of motion. It has not improved.
16:31
I feel like I should get some money back on
16:33
some level.
16:34   Speaker 5
But I guess maybe, you know, like all yoga teachers
16:38
only have yoga clothes to offer, Like I would just
16:41
get some some old short.
16:43   Speaker 6
Used yoga mats and some blocks. They're like, hey, I
16:46
got well, I got some new blocks. There they're still
16:48
in the there's on the packaging, so that's gotta be
16:50
worth like like thirty bucks, yeah, a couple of Yeah.
16:54   Speaker 1
I was just talking to my friend about how inflexible
16:58
I am, and like there's part of me that's like
17:00
this is this is when you're supposed to start like
17:02
stretching and really get flexible or else I'm gonna be injured.
17:06
But like I still I just like can't get myself
17:09
to do that because the results just like aren't. I
17:13
don't know, you should try. The results are not getting injured.
17:17   Speaker 4
Yeah, well, but also too, you will really it does
17:20
like it it sort of reverberates through your body.
17:31   Speaker 1
Yeah, well tight and doing that has relieved like some
17:41
tightness here and there.
17:42   Speaker 3
So I don't know. There's look into mobility. Man, it's
17:46
about the mobility too.
17:47   Speaker 5
Man.
17:47   Speaker 3
You gotta keep those keep those joints.
17:48   Speaker 1
I'm very mobile. I walk a lot.
17:50   Speaker 3
I just can't bend my knees.
17:52   Speaker 4
Yeah, so walking it's like walking on stilt.
17:54   Speaker 5
Yeah, it's the same way. He can't touch his toes
17:58
without betting his knees. And he's only said team. I
18:01
do feel like flexibility is like something you are born
18:04
with or maybe if you do gymnastics when you're eight. Yeah,
18:08
you know, really hardcore maybe you'll keep it, but it's
18:11
hard to get more.
18:12   Speaker 3
Yeah.
18:13   Speaker 1
I mean, plus I've got these really strong hammis, you know,
18:17
just like quaking with energy at all times.
18:22   Speaker 5
Yeah.
18:22   Speaker 1
No, I was going to say, miles of somebody who
18:26
can like pull his foot over his head, so it's
18:29
rich for him to be like, oh yeah, dude.
18:35   Speaker 3
Sorry, I saw someone in the bottom. It's the zoom. Yeah, yeah,
18:43
it is what it is.
18:44   Speaker 1
You should try it, man, Jack, go ahead, let's see
18:47
what you got, dude, it is what it is.
18:50   Speaker 3
You don't read your own You don't read.
18:51   Speaker 4
You're the soul of your foot like a palm reading.
18:56   Speaker 5
Did you when you were a kid, did you do
18:58
like a stretchy kind of sport?
19:00   Speaker 3
No, No, I played.
19:02   Speaker 4
I played ice hockey, for that's like the sport I
19:04
played the most as a kid.
19:07   Speaker 3
So nothing like it.
19:07   Speaker 4
But I always I just remember like my cousin's doing
19:11
it when I was like four years three or four
19:13
years old, and I was like, let me see if
19:14
I can do that, and that shit just went and
19:16
yeah yeah, and then ever since then it's but then
19:20
like in like my mom would always just be like kids'
19:22
bodies are just flexible. Kid's bodies are just flexible. But
19:25
she's also really flexible too, like.
19:27   Speaker 1
My mom can also get I think she could bite
19:29
her own tone nails if she wanted to.
19:31   Speaker 4
So that's that's really the mark. Can you bite your
19:34
own tone? And why would you not want to exactly
19:38
test how strong those teeth are?
19:42   Speaker 1
Laurie, what's something you think is underrated?
19:44   Speaker 5
I guess well, if I'm going to go sports wise,
19:47
let's say swimming is underrated, you know, as an Olympic sport,
19:51
Synchronized swimming is underrated. Yeah, It's absolutely my favorite thing.
19:55
It's so beautiful and difficult and anytime you post a
19:58
clip so and post the clip of Martin Short and
20:00
Harry Sheer from SNL and it's like, guys, can can
20:05
these athletes just do one Olympic? One Olympics for that
20:08
happing to see that clip? Please?
20:12   Speaker 4
It is I mean, it's iconic, but it's it's one
20:14
of those things that I remember you the second you try.
20:18
That's when you have respect for synchronized swimmers because you're like, oh, okay,
20:21
what they're doing under well, okay, I can stay inverted underwater.
20:24
And then you're you're like fucking flailing because you can't
20:27
do like those like micro balance paddles that they do
20:30
like their hands and yeah, respect believe that.
20:32   Speaker 5
But they all have to do them exactly the same, so,
20:36
you know, but the eight of them and their hands
20:38
are right next to each other and they can't mess up,
20:40
and their legs have to say, their feet have to
20:43
you know, meet at the top that you can have
20:45
one foot you know, one person's feed higher than the other.
20:48
So it's so hard.
20:50   Speaker 3
The team, the team.
20:51   Speaker 5
Version of it, you know, just the individual stuff on
20:53
its own is really difficult too.
20:55   Speaker 3
But man, is.
20:55   Speaker 4
There individual like dancing kind of it used to be.
21:01   Speaker 5
Like synchronized with the music. That's what they That's what
21:04
they meant.
21:04   Speaker 3
But like, oh right, got it?
21:05   Speaker 5
No, I mean like individually learning to do all those
21:08
skills and then there's eight of you together learning to
21:12
do it so that you're all you're you're as.
21:14   Speaker 3
One, right right right? Holy shit, there's eight.
21:18   Speaker 5
Of them there.
21:20   Speaker 3
I think they're lost powers.
21:24   Speaker 5
I'm trying to remember. It seems like at least six
21:27
to eight on the in the team.
21:28   Speaker 1
Team.
21:29   Speaker 3
That's unbelievable.
21:30   Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, that ship might as well be like a
21:33
magic trick to me. I'm just like there's something I
21:35
don't understand because that is looks completely impossible to me.
21:39   Speaker 3
Yeah, it is really impressive.
21:41   Speaker 1
Synchronized diving. Yeah, that was pretty fun. That's like very
21:46
meditative to just like watch people do that over and
21:49
over again. I got into like the last Olympics. I
21:52
would just like sit there and watch that for like
21:54
an hour straight.
21:55   Speaker 5
Yeah, that's very cool looking. I like when they let
21:59
these little sneak the sports in the Olympics, you know.
22:01   Speaker 1
Yeah, somebody made up four years ago.
22:07   Speaker 5
By accident when they did the same sim as your friend.
22:10   Speaker 1
Yeah, it got invented, like when somebody was trying to
22:12
break againness Book of World Records, just like trying to
22:16
I don't know, maybe most dives together. Yeah yeah, I
22:21
mean because in twenty twenty eight, isn't we're gonna have
22:24
flag football, aren't we?
22:26   Speaker 3
In the LA Olympics? So is that right?
22:28   Speaker 1
Yeah?
22:29   Speaker 3
Flag?
22:30   Speaker 4
Yeah, it's out there, so and I means, like America,
22:34
you better clean the fuck up.
22:39   Speaker 1
I mean, that's what kids are playing these days. I
22:42
feel like like young kids aren't playing like Pop Warner football,
22:45
at least not the ones who grow up in New
22:48
York City, Like I have nephews who just play like
22:51
flag football, that's the version of football that they play.
22:54   Speaker 3
Yeah, why not?
22:54   Speaker 1
I mean, which makes sense to me.
22:56   Speaker 4
A lot of cautionary tales out there for banging your
22:59
fucking skull all over and over and you know turns
23:02
out yeah, not being able to like navigate your own neighborhood.
23:05
Did you ever see that that one that like ct
23:07
documentary there's like the one soccer player, this woman who
23:10
just headed the ball so many times, like it affected
23:13
like she needed like GPS to get around her town
23:16
because it was just like affecting so many things like that.
23:18   Speaker 3
And that's when I was like, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
23:20   Speaker 5
I read but I didn't. I didn't know that documentary.
23:23
That's terrible. Was that ever gonna get better or she
23:26
just permanently.
23:27   Speaker 4
I'm not did not feel hopeful.
23:30   Speaker 1
It was sort of like it was it was sort
23:32
of covering like all kinds of sort of content. It
23:35
was just like a it was sort of showing many
23:37
different contact sports athletes and just sort of the varying
23:40
degrees in which like these like repetitive head impacts kind
23:43
of like were affecting people because it doesn't seem like
23:45
across the board thing with heading the soccer ball at
23:48
least I'm not. I didn't know about that, but that
23:50
was like the first time I saw him, I was like,
23:52
that makes sense. Yeah, Hey he got his bell rung.
23:56   Speaker 3
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's all. That's all.
23:58   Speaker 4
You just got all Get back up there, man, Back
24:00
up there.
24:01   Speaker 1
Man. This kid can take a lick and keep on
24:02
ticking those stars you're seeing. That's your future, kid, when
24:05
you're a superstar, Lean into it.
24:08   Speaker 3
Lean into it.
24:09   Speaker 5
Man.
24:09   Speaker 3
It's so brutal.
24:11   Speaker 1
By the way, I can't navigate my neighborhood without GPS.
24:14   Speaker 3
But that's another star.
24:16   Speaker 1
We'll talk about that another time. Maybe I need a
24:19
documentary crew.
24:20   Speaker 3
Follow me here.
24:22   Speaker 1
Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
24:35
And we're back. We're back for a segment we call
24:39
we hate to see It, del We folks, we don't
24:41
hate to see it. So two stories in this segment.
24:44
We got Elon Musk losing out them fifty five billion
24:48
dollar payday because a Delaware judge ruled to strike down
24:54
the payment package. Now the company will have to propose
24:58
a new, less whe wildly deranged compensation package unless he appeals,
25:03
which he will and probably when. But people are pointing
25:06
out this leaves a large chunk of his fortune hanging
25:09
in limbo. Yes, buddy, oh man.
25:14   Speaker 5
Yeah, is that why he tweeted, don't incorporate in Delaware?
25:19
And I didn't know that's that's probably why. But I mean,
25:21
the reason he incorporated in Delaware, that's why all the
25:24
credit card companies are they have barely they're very corporate friendly.
25:29
So he must have been quite shocked that a judge wasn't.
25:32
I mean, I guess it's because it's a publicly traded company, Tesla.
25:36   Speaker 1
Right, So yeah, and also it's a flagrant abuse of
25:40
Oh it's crazy money.
25:41   Speaker 3
Yeah it is.
25:45   Speaker 1
If you can't get away with that shil in Delaware.
25:47
If there's a financial crime, you can't get away with Delaware. Man,
25:51
Like you're up, bud.
25:53   Speaker 5
That's like Monaco going, come on, that's a.
25:56   Speaker 1
Bit much sense, really, that much like, yeah, the concept
26:02
of having too much dip on your chip, I do
26:04
not see that happening there. It's funny because like I
26:06
was reading like Barons and other financial news to just
26:08
to see what like their take is, and one of
26:10
them just says it wasn't. This from Barons said quote
26:12
it wasn't clear what options Tesla or Musk might have.
26:14   Speaker 3
In terms of pursuing an appeal.
26:16   Speaker 1
Oh good, so they have to like it, says, yeah,
26:19
they would need to create a new comp package from
26:21
us that can supersede this. Looking ahead in locked Muskin
26:24
for Tesla through twenty thirty, I mean, that's just more
26:26
stuff that don't understand. But the judge, it's interesting how
26:29
the judge was just like, y'all, like what are you
26:32
what are you guys doing here? Yeah, I mean this
26:36
like something's going to have to give at some point,
26:39
Like we can't just let the richest people in the
26:41
world keep getting paying themselves more and more money. So
26:46
I was not aware of this as an option of
26:48
a judge just being like, no, well.
26:51   Speaker 4
It's because someone had to sue. A shareholder had to
26:53
sue for that to happen.
26:54   Speaker 1
But maybe this will cause other shareholders to sue and
26:59
you know, do like inject like a small sliver of
27:04
sanity into the financial system that we're living under. His
27:09
defense of the payday is and this is like truly wild.
27:14
Like I've heard people say that he's doing this like
27:17
space thing as a grift to like distract from just
27:20
how much he's robbing everybody of money. But he literally
27:24
said it's a way to get humanity to Mars when
27:27
describing his fifty five billion dollar payday.
27:30   Speaker 5
Oh my god, So just straight up that's that's the
27:34
thing only he wants. I don't know anyone who wants
27:39
to go to Mars, right, you know, man, you guys
27:42
do either.
27:43   Speaker 3
No, not at all.
27:44   Speaker 1
I mean we even saw what happened to people who
27:46
want to go see the fucking Titanic. I'm like, we're good, Yeah,
27:52
I'm fine.
27:52   Speaker 4
Here, just toiling on Terra Firma, okay, yes. And it's
27:57
just like also interesting because like the way he said
27:59
it too, is like he it up the way to
28:00
get the humanity with to Mar's line with so Tesla
28:03
can assist in potentially achieving that, like as if Oh,
28:07
I'm sorry, Elon right, okay, so we're good here then yeah.
28:12   Speaker 1
The criticisms from this judge, it's aid the judge McCormick
28:15
criticized the board's quote deeply flawed process and pointed out
28:19
that the members of the compensation committee had long standing
28:22
relationships with Musk. Tesla was quote unable to prove that
28:26
the stockholder vault was fully informed because the proxy statement
28:29
inaccurately described key directors as independent and misleadingly omitted details
28:35
about the process, in which is just like elon being like,
28:38
just help me out.
28:40   Speaker 5
So was it like May Musk and kimbro Musk right
28:45
his family?
28:46   Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, I mean he's doing financial crimes. But all
28:49
these people are doing financial crimes all the time to
28:52
pay themselves billions of dollars. So I mean at times
28:56
I've been like, I don't know, like could a judge
28:59
who like knows how much a banana costs down here,
29:03
like with the rest of us who's like been grocery
29:05
shopping in the past ten years, Like could they reach
29:09
out and just be like, all, right, after fifteen billion,
29:12
Like can we say that's enough? You're right, you have
29:14
more money than you'll ever be able to you know,
29:17
like some legal ruling. It seems like for now it's
29:20
just going to be like when they flagrantly try to
29:23
do just pay themselves the entire GDP of a small
29:28
European nation in one like in one check, they're gonna
29:33
be like, I don't think we can do that.
29:37   Speaker 5
And I don't know, I mean, Tesla, how do they
29:41
have that much money. Is that money borrowed from a bank? Like,
29:46
are they making that much of a profit. They seem
29:48
to be, you know, collapsing and being recalled all the time.
29:52   Speaker 3
Yeah, I don't get it.
29:53   Speaker 4
It's so I mean, like, I mean that they are
29:55
selling cars, you know, and I think but apparently that
29:58
that package would have fluctuated based on the stock price apparently,
30:04
but it's all based off the company's valuation as well.
30:07
But it's interesting to see that the people that are
30:08
defending and be like, no Elon should get that, like
30:11
sort of the line there is that it basically keeps
30:14
him focused. It's like incentivizing him to focus on Tesla
30:19
rather than all this other shit, which is so wild.
30:21
You're like, that's the dumbest excuse I've ever heard. It's like, well,
30:24
we got to pay him this much or else he's
30:26
gonna like have his head literally in the fucking clouds
30:28
trying to get to Mars or fucking up X or
30:30
whatever the fuck.
30:32   Speaker 1
So it's like an enabling parent whose son is on
30:35
drugs trying to like, yeah, we gotta get it, Like
30:38
we're gonna give him a bunch of money for getting
30:41
an a in math and that'll keep his keep him straight.
30:44   Speaker 3
He just told you he'd use that money on drugs.
30:50
The drugs actually helped me keep my head straight.
30:53   Speaker 1
So yeah, so this, I mean, this is you could
30:56
potential mom and dad, you could potentially help achieve my
30:58
goal of yeah, of being fucking high as fuck all
31:01
the time, slash going to Mars.
31:03   Speaker 5
I'm just distracted. There's still bros that support him as
31:08
much as they did before he took over Twitter. You know,
31:10
it's been such a such a mess, and and I
31:15
feel like we all see he's in competent and incapable
31:19
of doing what he says he wants to do, but
31:21
there's still people like super behind him. I think they
31:23
have a lot of Sheiba coins and they're really hoping
31:26
that turns around.
31:27   Speaker 4
Yeah, they are upside down on doge coin and they're.
31:30   Speaker 5
Like, oh, yes, that's right.
31:32   Speaker 4
So ro Ron, Hey, you know, you know your ship coins,
31:35
so but you knew it was also a fucking ship coin.
31:39
But yeah, I mean it's like, I think it's also
31:42
he sort of serves as like this aspirational place to go,
31:45
as like a mediocre white guy, and yeah, with enough.
31:49
I mean, if your dad owns an Emerald mind, then
31:52
the sky is the fucking limit. But I think for
31:53
many of that gets yeah exactly, We're like, he just
31:57
did it on his own, despite this the his father's
32:00
dynastic wealth. But I think that's the other thing is
32:02
like you see these guys excuse it all the time.
32:04
It's like, yeah, but he's like trying to do this,
32:06
and like you were just haters and da da, And
32:08
I think, you know, we're in an era where people
32:11
just worship these sort of like fucking they think he's
32:14
like Iron Man from the Marvel movies.
32:16   Speaker 3
And they're like, yeah, man, dude, he's fucking he's got it.
32:20
This is the yea nice level shit.
32:22   Speaker 5
The problem with America is everyone thinks they're just one
32:25
lottery to get away from being that, you know, And
32:28
so they're like, well, I don't want I don't want
32:30
those taxes. I don't want him to be text because
32:32
what if I become a billionaire.
32:36   Speaker 1
I'd want to have more than fifteen billion dollars.
32:39   Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah, Okay, here's a quick test for you aspirational billionaire.
32:43
And if you don't answer yes to the first question,
32:46
the answer is you are not going to be a billionaire.
32:48
Question number one do your parents have five hundred thousand
32:52
dollars in liquid assets they can just give you to
32:54
start a little project. No, okay, then your your odds
32:58
just went down to yeah, very low lower and snake titties.
33:08   Speaker 3
Nipples?
33:09   Speaker 5
Is your the day of the snake or is it
33:11
day that.
33:12   Speaker 3
We said serpent?
33:14   Speaker 1
Yeah, in that serpent's nippbles, in that you ain't.
33:19   Speaker 5
Bore the more formal serpents nipples, Yeah.
33:22   Speaker 3
Exactly low and the medical term all right.
33:29   Speaker 1
Uh. And then also sad news for Christen Cinema. I mean,
33:32
she's not out, but she is down at the moment.
33:35
She raised five hundred and ninety five thousand dollars in
33:38
the final three months of twenty twenty three, which sounds
33:40
like a lot of money to me. It is less
33:43
than one fifth of the total that her main Democratic challenger,
33:49
Representative Ruben Diego, said his campaign raised during that same period.
33:55
If like, for an incumbent to get like destroyed by
34:00
five five x like with a challenger is pretty pretty bad.
34:05   Speaker 4
Yeah, well, she put she put all of her effort
34:08
into guaranteeing that everyone would absolutely be like, get out
34:13
of my face, you absolute disgrace, because except corporations yeah. Yeah,
34:18
well the second she went second she left the Democratic Party,
34:21
like come on here, like what do you expect you
34:24
know what I mean, Like you're an independent now, so
34:26
of course, all the donors that had put you on
34:29
your way to the Senate the first time, they're just
34:31
getting behind gyego.
34:33   Speaker 1
What was a strategy? What was your plan? Yeah, dumb, dumb,
34:39
I don't know. All these like corporations and like rich
34:42
people who are really nice to me all the time,
34:44
like they probably will help me stay in power.
34:47   Speaker 5
It's like, I mean, if she is not re elected,
34:51
she gets escorted to the you know, boards of these places,
34:55
you know what I mean, like take care of each
34:57
other afterwards.
34:58   Speaker 3
So yeah, that's right.
34:59   Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, so I mean probably smart in the long run,
35:02
but it looks bad for her political aspirations and smart
35:06
like in a very self certain way throwing the world.
35:10   Speaker 8
Yeah, a serpent move, some might say a serpenteen move, absolutely,
35:15
because yeah, I think now with the way that race
35:19
is shaking up, she's trying to tack to the right
35:23
kind of because the problem is with Carrie Lake.
35:27   Speaker 1
If you remember the bizarro gubernatorial candidate who refused to
35:31
like be like it was stolen from me and annoyed everyone.
35:34   Speaker 4
Also, yes, like the Republicans on that side of the
35:37
race are like attacking cinema to be like, she voted
35:40
for ninety four percent of the Biden agenda, which is true.
35:43
It's like she just she just dug her heels in
35:45
for certain things that completely watered down a lot of bills,
35:49
and a lot of people remember her for that. So
35:51
I think because recently she for the first time voted
35:54
against a judicial pick that Biden put forward, and everyone's like,
35:58
what the fuck, Like you've been one hundred percent on
36:01
those and then suddenly this like black magistrate judge. She
36:05
was just like, no, I guess not, and was like thinking,
36:08
like maybe that will change my percentages a little bit,
36:11
maybe to ninety two percent. Yeah, so people will see
36:14
me as a quote independent.
36:15   Speaker 1
But yeah, she's she serves herself so she can see
36:19
herself out the door. Does not seem to be going
36:21
according to plan because during that same period she spent
36:26
way more than she raised, so raised five hundred and
36:29
ninety five thousand, spent seven hundred and forty nine thousand,
36:33
including hundreds of thousands on fundraising, consulting, and digital advertising.
36:39   Speaker 5
And probably cute outfits. I mean she dressed in a
36:42
fun way. Yes, that that that I think that that
36:46
led everyone to think she'd be cool, you know.
36:48   Speaker 3
Just cool. Yeah.
36:50   Speaker 1
Also, only seven seven hundred on paying campaign staff, so my.
36:55   Speaker 4
God, I mean she's trying to raise money. Does you
36:58
remember there was like that story like the beginning of
37:00
last year about how she was like selling her clothes
37:02
on Facebook marketplace?
37:04   Speaker 1
Oh real? Yeah? Yeah, So she's fun. She's got a
37:07
few different gigs. You know, she got some stuff in
37:10
the air, she got some irons in the fire, so
37:12
don't worry about her. She does still have nearly eleven
37:15
million dollars in her campaign account, so she's probably gonna
37:18
be okay.
37:20   Speaker 5
Unfortunately, unless she decides to keep it, right, Could she
37:23
figure out a way to keep it if she decides
37:25
I'm not going to win anyway, and why put up
37:28
with this? Isn't there I mean, it's a violation, but
37:31
there's probably legal ways to keep that money.
37:34   Speaker 4
Yeah, but it's not that easy when it's all in
37:36
a campaign account. So she'd have to like be engaged
37:40
in a campaign to be able to get through a
37:41
lot of it. And that's when people are like, I
37:43
need it for my clothing. I need it for this
37:45
and then sure there'll be some ethics violations going up,
37:48
But what's an ethics violation these days?
37:51   Speaker 1
You know?
37:51   Speaker 3
Yeah?
37:52   Speaker 1
Or Donald Trump gets elected president makes everything legal. It's
37:56
just like the perge twenty four hours a day, three
37:59
hundred and sixty five days a year. All right. The
38:02
Z insurrection is upon us. Yeah, As somebody who used
38:07
to be addicted to nicotine, I have dabbled with Zen.
38:11   Speaker 3
Yeah in the past.
38:12   Speaker 4
You know about that pure nicotina pouch.
38:14   Speaker 3
Huh.
38:15   Speaker 1
I do know about Zen. It's not I did not
38:17
find it very satisfying.
38:19   Speaker 4
Well, it's it's a tobacco free, just all nicotine pouch.
38:23   Speaker 3
You know. They can just pack right there in your lip. Yeah.
38:26   Speaker 4
And apparently it's like one of the fastest grow like
38:29
one of the faster growing nicotine products in terms of popularity,
38:33
and it seems to be attracting more and more younger users.
38:36
And there's like an entire subculture of like video reviews
38:40
or like fucking this term Z influencers. Yes, that kids
38:44
are being proposed to on TikTok, and that concerned Senator
38:47
Chuck Schumer, and he basically made a statement calling on
38:50
the FDA and the FDC just like you want to
38:53
look into this, like maybe we need some more oversight
38:56
in products like this. If kids are just like seeing
38:58
this stuff and like watching videos of a dud been
39:00
like how many fucking zin bombs.
39:01   Speaker 3
Can I pack in my mouth? It won't go?
39:04   Speaker 4
And you know, like like maybe there's something going on,
39:07
and that just that statement about being like, can we
39:10
look into this product that like young kids are kind
39:12
of miners are getting into just set off a bunch
39:15
of just a right wing screen fest. The terms insurrection.
39:18
I wish I had coined that. That was actually Marjorie
39:20
Taylor Green who said that she said, Wow, this calls
39:24
for a z insurrection and then like other people are
39:27
saying she's talking about just because Democrats want to legalize
39:29
all drugs.
39:30   Speaker 1
Representative Richard Hudson said that quote, big brother Schumer doesn't
39:34
want us to chew or smoke.
39:37   Speaker 4
John Federman, Yeah, John Fetterman, who has recently, you know,
39:41
shown his independent streak or his you know, when he's
39:44
not cosplaying as Apac Shakur basically said tobacco is legal,
39:49
and he's got more of like a freedom aspect about
39:52
you like increased oversight he's the male cinema.
39:56   Speaker 3
Yeah.
39:57   Speaker 4
Like there's like a nicotine subreddit where some dude, like
40:01
a highly upvoted post was like, dude, if they get
40:04
if they fucking try and take this in, I'll make
40:06
January sixth look like a tea party, which I think
40:09
was a bit hyper hyperbolic, but still a lot of
40:12
people were like, dude, they better not, Man, they better not.
40:15   Speaker 1
People get mad when you fuck with their nicotine, you know,
40:18
Like it's so I could I could see there being
40:21
just a lot of very pathetic insurrections happening, just like
40:26
the just most depressing temper tantrums you've ever seen. Well,
40:30
because you even see like how the tobacco lobby like
40:32
they deploy like these astro turf like smokers' rights groups
40:36
like back in the day and like these like people
40:39
to sort of create these outrage campaigns like on behalf
40:42
of the industry. And clearly many of these people are
40:45
open to donations from that industry, so of course they're
40:48
gonna be.
40:48   Speaker 3
Up here and be like, it's just what the fuck's
40:50
going on with this?
40:51   Speaker 1
And like the research in terms of what nicotine only
40:55
products do is pretty slim because most of our understanding
40:58
with nicotine is like through tobacco products, So this is
41:01
like a tobacco free nicotine product, which is I think
41:04
created this sort of like sort of gray area where
41:07
people can claim all.
41:08   Speaker 4
Kinds of shit because it's just nicotine. Because like Peter
41:11
Teal has said that using nicotine patches will raise your
41:15
IQ ten fucking points.
41:17   Speaker 3
He's like, that's that's true.
41:19   Speaker 1
Oh well, yes, are pretty problematic, but well I'll probably
41:23
talking about the wrong guy.
41:23   Speaker 3
Peter Teal aren't.
41:24   Speaker 4
Yeah, it's you know, it's like a stimulant, so you
41:27
can see how that might create like you know, kind
41:30
of get your your head going. This other guy who
41:32
works for the communications director for the State Freedom Caucus
41:35
Network just a bunch of just right wing nonsense network,
41:39
so quote it gets a creative juice is flowing during
41:41
the day when I'm working and shit posting and whatnot.
41:47
But I think Tucker Carlson seems to be the biggest
41:52
influencer when it comes to the rights love of nicotine,
41:55
because like we've heard him say this like all the time.
41:57
He's always talked up nicotine is like this wonder thing,
42:00
and he was recently, dude, he was recently on the
42:02
Full Send podcast actually about ten months ago, talking about
42:07
his love for zins and just I just want you
42:10
to listen to the way this guy is like preaching
42:13
the fucking Zin gospel in this interview.
42:15   Speaker 3
This is Tucker Carlson.
42:17   Speaker 9
Don't get me going.
42:18   Speaker 3
So I use it.
42:18   Speaker 9
You know, every second I'm awake and in bed. I'm
42:22
not embarrassed of it. Sleep with one in or no,
42:24
I don't because I don't want to choke on it.
42:25
But seconds I read in bed, so seconds before I
42:28
fall asleep, I take it out. I've never had one
42:30
of my dogs eat a zin pouch, though I'm not
42:32
against it.
42:34   Speaker 3
Because I think they would take it. But yeah, I'm
42:36
not embarrassed of it at all.
42:37   Speaker 5
I can't answer.
42:38   Speaker 9
And what I find so interesting back to my and
42:41
I don't want to like reveal myself as a crackpot
42:43
on your show. No, no, But I think the hostility
42:46
to nicotine is crying telling. I mean, obviously cigarette smoking
42:50
can be.
42:51   Speaker 3
Bad for you.
42:52   Speaker 9
It's not bad for everybody, but over time it can
42:54
hurt cigarette smoking for loved ones die from it. Nicotine
43:00
it's not a carcinogen. Actually, they're all kinds of medical benefits.
43:04
Of it which are documented.
43:05   Speaker 3
Buckle up.
43:06   Speaker 9
It increases mental acuity, raises your testosterone level. It may
43:10
be a prophylactic against Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.
43:15   Speaker 1
Cut to full sen Prodcasts Full said podcast. Okay, we
43:18
don't want to We don't want to get dinged for
43:20
medical misinformation here. Yeah, so you hear that shit, libs.
43:25
It will protect you from Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. Sleep dimulents
43:30
are good for you, and being addicted to a thing
43:34
is good for you. It's good for your mental health,
43:36
your spiritual health.
43:38   Speaker 3
It's good.
43:39   Speaker 1
You're gonna be a better person when you're addicted to
43:41
this product.
43:43   Speaker 5
It doesn't look like it's making him exercise.
43:45   Speaker 1
Though, like, oh he's gotten I want.
43:48   Speaker 5
To stimulate something that gets me on a treadmill a
43:51
little bit. But also, there's such shortages of RIDDLING and
43:55
ad add and ADHD drugs that I mean, some people
43:59
have to turn to some thing, right is that? Is
44:01
this a viable replacement.
44:03   Speaker 3
For you know what?
44:04   Speaker 4
You should probably right there the lobby's talking points there,
44:07
because I haven't heard anyone be like and.
44:09   Speaker 1
With eighty HD shortage, what else are we supposed to have?
44:13
Our nation students used to stay focused so they can
44:16
achieve their dreams.
44:17   Speaker 5
It's ry, guys, I just got one hundred dollars for saying.
44:20   Speaker 1
Yeah, your price is way too low.
44:23   Speaker 4
But wait, Lori just changed Lurie just changed her display
44:28
name on Twitter. You're Lori kill martins In Okay. Very
44:33
interesting but coincidence.
44:35   Speaker 1
I was say I was addicted to like smoking cessation
44:39
nicotine delivery things for like a decade basically recently got
44:44
off them. I have to say I'm much better. I
44:47
feel like I'm much healthier and happier without them. But
44:50
I I was definitely like somebody who like had nicotine
44:54
gum in a lot of the time, like right the
44:56
Tucker Carlson. Yeah, it's a little like it actually calmed
45:01
me down, Like I would do it before bed, like Tucker. Uh.
45:06
I get most of my health regimens from Tucker Carlston.
45:10
But yeah, no, I would do it to relax because
45:13
I do. I. Yeah, I think there's like some add
45:15
stuff in there.
45:16   Speaker 3
Right.
45:16   Speaker 4
Well, the fact that you said it actually calms me down,
45:18
I was like, yeah, notedants calmed me down.
45:25   Speaker 1
But I've been such an asshole for the past year.
45:30   Speaker 4
But it's just interesting because this is just part of
45:32
like the culture war battle to like sort of paint
45:34
the left or Democrats is like wanting to legalize all drugs.
45:38   Speaker 3
But nicotine bad.
45:40   Speaker 4
And they also have like this like really idealized view
45:43
of like that like coincided with like this American like
45:46
this great era of American innovation when like all the
45:50
great inventors were fucking chaining it up, man like, and
45:53
look what happened to us.
45:54   Speaker 3
We're fucking chicken shit.
45:56   Speaker 4
Now it's because we don't smoke cigarettes.
45:58   Speaker 3
Yeah, it's that easy.
45:59   Speaker 4
It's the it's the fucking cigarettes that may have contributed
46:02
to the waning of the innovation here.
46:06   Speaker 3
But yeah, like it.
46:07   Speaker 4
Should be noted that Schumer wasn't talking about banning them,
46:10
just increased scrutiny since parents are noticing their kids are
46:14
talking about it more and just catching their kids with
46:17
this shit. So it's just sort of more of a
46:18
continuation of like the vaping tuggle war that we saw
46:22
like when jewels were like all the kids were doing
46:24
jewels and shit, they're like the flavors are too much
46:26
like candy that appeals to kids, and it's just more like, yeah,
46:29
they also these things have flavors too, and they're just saying, well,
46:32
maybe maybe some oversight there.
46:34   Speaker 5
But it's almost like, look, if kids, fourteen year olds
46:38
can work in a meat packing factory and shoot an
46:41
AK forty seven, they should be allowed to have a
46:43
nicotine patch, right or some sort of that's their argument.
46:47   Speaker 1
Maybe maybe like this because smoking cessation things like things
46:51
that are just nicotine like nicotine patches, and like they're
46:55
like little pellets, Like they're so expensive compared to the
47:00
things that actually have tobacco in them. They're like crazy expensive.
47:03
So that seems to be like what Zen. The innovation
47:07
that Zen has offered is that it's like a non
47:09
tobacco nicotine delivery system that is not like seventy dollars
47:15
for you know, a couple of days worth. So yeah,
47:19
so yeah, let kids have nicotine patches at school. All right,
47:24
let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
47:27
talk about the biggest the largest cruise ship in the
47:31
history of the world.
47:43   Speaker 3
And we're back.
47:44   Speaker 1
I'm still not over the part where he was like,
47:47
I wouldn't mind if my dogs ate my nicotine patches.
47:50   Speaker 3
You know, I think he'd like it.
47:52   Speaker 1
But you're not supposed to eat them and they weigh
47:57
like one fourth what you weigh And.
48:00   Speaker 4
The beginning part of that anecdote is there, he says,
48:04
it's just it's the way he sets it up. It
48:06
sounds like a fucking ad where he's talking about how
48:08
this guy that was dating his daughter was like using
48:11
him and then on a new at a New Year's party.
48:13   Speaker 3
Like Tucker's like, hey, what's that and he's like, and
48:16
he told me it's the future?
48:18   Speaker 5
Man?
48:19   Speaker 3
No, yeah, Like.
48:23   Speaker 4
Yeah, I mean, if you want to hear let me
48:25
let me play it because it's it's pretty aggressive.
48:29   Speaker 9
Like anyway, so a boy that one of my daughters
48:32
was dating New Year's twenty twenty was at my house
48:37
and he pulls this out.
48:39   Speaker 3
I'm like, what is that? He goes, It's the future.
48:42   Speaker 9
It's the future. It's a non tobacco nicotine delivery device
48:46
where you get all the whole grain good to some nicotine,
48:49
but none of the downside.
48:51   Speaker 4
That's that's like a fucking ad word for a word too.
48:54   Speaker 3
It's a nicotine.
48:55   Speaker 4
It's a tobacco free nicotine delivery device. It's like, did
48:58
that kid work for his and my daughter? My daughter
49:02
only dates corporate lobbyists.
49:05   Speaker 1
Right, I told my daughter, you can either bring gun
49:09
lobbyists or tobacco lobbyist in this.
49:11   Speaker 4
I don't want to hear anything else.
49:14   Speaker 9
We drove to seven to eleven and I stocked up.
49:16
I got all the different flavors coffee, a lot of
49:20
intriguing flavors, I would say, but I stuck.
49:22   Speaker 3
Oh my, and it's been a massive life enhancer.
49:25   Speaker 9
I'd really recommend it to you.
49:26   Speaker 1
It's God. Yeah, this is making me want to do
49:29
it too.
49:32   Speaker 3
A life enhancer, Tucker me something that yum yum.
49:37   Speaker 1
All right, well, speaking of the future, we have seen
49:40
the future. It is the world's largest cruise ship, the
49:43
Icon of the Seas Behold, embarked on its first commercial
49:48
voyage this weekend. Longer than the Eiffel Tower is tall,
49:53
features twenty decks, a water park, indoor waterfall, bowling alley,
49:57
and the ever present sense that human is completely doomed.
50:03   Speaker 3
Yeah wow, all that?
50:05   Speaker 5
Oh, I mean, how many? How many murders can be
50:08
committed on that thing?
50:10   Speaker 1
Right?
50:11   Speaker 5
You get out to international waters twenty different decks to
50:14
push someone off or you're.
50:16   Speaker 1
So right because so we're like the big thing that
50:20
people are pointing out is that obviously, well, first of all,
50:24
it just looks like if you've ever seen a picture
50:27
of it, somebody said it was probably look like human
50:30
lasagna to the workAs. But it's just it gives me
50:35
anxiety to look at it, like like it looks like
50:38
it would be absolutely fucking groaning to stay upright in
50:41
the water. And like the President of Royal Caribbean's like,
50:45
this the biggest, baddest ship on the planet. I'm like,
50:48
don't sound like a fucking five year old bragging about
50:52
your dad's new car, Like, yeah, just de responsible with
50:56
whatever this horrifying sciences that makes us possible. But it's
51:01
it's a huge polluter obviously, Like it's you know, the
51:05
amount of fuel that's needed. So they the way they
51:08
got around that is they advertised that it uses this
51:12
environmentally friendly fuel liquefied natural gas LNG and it's the
51:18
cleanest burning marine fuel, which it turns out is absolutely
51:23
not true. It actually ultimately emits seventy to eighty percent
51:27
more greenhouse gas emissions per trip than if it used
51:30
regular marine fuel. It just like takes away one one
51:35
kind of emission and like blasts out a whole bunch of.
51:38   Speaker 3
Well, yeah, that's the thing. You you missed. You missed.
51:40   Speaker 1
The real part, Jack, is that it cuts down CO
51:43
two by a quarter and then methane emissions go up
51:46
by like one hundred.
51:49   Speaker 3
Something like that.
51:49   Speaker 4
Well, look, we're focused on CO two man, that's the
51:51
thing we're talking about. Carbon man, Carbon. Yeah, it's it's
51:54
really it's uh, it's just we we love a bit
51:57
of green Washington folks.
51:58   Speaker 1
But so we're we're looking at story and like there's
52:01
an NGO that's filed complaints in the UK about like
52:05
them breaching advertising rules by advertising it this way, and
52:09
our writer jam is pointing out, but like, nothing's gonna
52:13
happen in the current system because they spend so much
52:16
on lobbying and the stuff that they lobby. They spend
52:19
millions each year on lobbyists. Last year they spent four
52:24
million dollars. And the things that they lobby over include
52:29
issues ranging from sanitation and health laws to quote crime reporting.
52:34
The straight up they straight up lobby to not have
52:38
to report crimes.
52:40   Speaker 5
Wow.
52:41   Speaker 1
So first of all, sanitation and health laws, I don't know.
52:45
I don't want you to be and I don't want
52:47
the people making the money to be in control of
52:49
like the sanitation and health laws of that.
52:52   Speaker 5
That's just what they're dumping into the sea, right or
52:55
is it.
52:55   Speaker 1
Or even on board, so what they're keeping what they're
52:58
allowed to do, like make us living inside of Yeah,
53:02
oh god, it's not our fault if you get cholera
53:06
and scarlet fever and die from diarrhea during the course
53:11
of the vacation on.
53:12   Speaker 4
It, because I remember, like when at the onset of COVID,
53:15
there were like all those horror stories about people stuck
53:18
on cruise ships and how they just turned into like
53:20
these Petrie dishes. So I'm sure part of that lobbying
53:22
is like, man, don't don't make us have to like
53:25
end one of our money making journeys because like fifty
53:27
percent of the passengers have COVID or something like that.
53:31   Speaker 3
Yeah.
53:31   Speaker 5
Right.
53:32   Speaker 1
But by crime reporting, I'm pretty sure they mean like
53:37
we don't really need to report crimes, right, like straight
53:41
up just succession level. We've been letting people like just
53:45
kill people on our boat.
53:47   Speaker 5
Some passengers did, just didn't come back. That's all we're reporting.
53:52
We went out with one thousand and came back with
53:55
nine eighty.
53:56   Speaker 1
The Mystery of the Sea, am I right, folks say,
54:01
just fucking wild those are actually pretty good percentages for US.
54:05
Seventy seven out of eighty is actually pretty good. We're
54:09
improving our numbers the seventies. And yeah, just you know,
54:14
we earlier talked about the revolving door between politics and
54:17
making money. The group that is currently in charge of
54:20
lobbying for the cruise ship industry headed by former White
54:24
House staffer who worked with Hillary Clinton and who previously
54:28
led the Democracy Alliance, a network of wealthy donors who
54:32
coordinate donations to liberal organizations.
54:34   Speaker 5
So was it, do you have a name? I'm just curious.
54:39   Speaker 1
I just assumed absolutely, Craighead is the last name.
54:44   Speaker 5
Oh, I don't know, mister Head, but he's taking care
54:49
of Yeah, how do you pronounce cinema? Will be ahead?
54:54   Speaker 4
Yeah? And then another guy was was Donald Rumsfelds spokesperson.
55:00
You got the best of the best on this gig
55:01
right now?
55:02   Speaker 3
Yeah, Jesus Christ.
55:04   Speaker 1
But anyways, it's, uh, this thing's a monstrosity. Like there
55:07
are environmental groups who are arguing that maybe cruise ships
55:12
shouldn't be a thing. They only pollute, and they don't
55:15
the only thing they provide is like leisure, They don't.
55:20   Speaker 5
They they do provide work for comics at the end
55:23
of their careers.
55:25   Speaker 3
That's true. I mean, yeah, I don't know it.
55:30   Speaker 1
It does suck that like this would this would definitely
55:33
be the thing that gets cut out before yachts, right
55:37
like before the private yachts of the billionaire class.
55:40   Speaker 4
But yeah, that's what they or they just turned into
55:43
a thing where it's like, well, now that there's no
55:44
cruise ships, you gotta get on these like fucking yachts, man,
55:48
Like that's where it's at and just you know, aspire
55:50
to do the.
55:51   Speaker 3
Yacht thing now.
55:51   Speaker 4
Yeah, but it's funny, like I was watching a video
55:54
of someone like doing a vlog getting on like the
55:57
Maiden Voyage, and it's it's it's nightmarish. Like I look,
56:02
I'll admit it, Like I enjoy a cruise. There's something
56:05
about I think I've been like my grandparents were big cruisers,
56:09
and ever since then, I've been like, oh, man, Like
56:12
I think I was also like coincided with me and
56:13
going being in puberty and like never like always being hungry.
56:17
So being on a fucking cruise ship was like I'm
56:19
hungry right now and I can eat seven thousand pizzas
56:23
and fries and burger and my no one, and I
56:26
don't have to have the restraints of my parents been
56:27
like order off the kid's menu or some shit like that. Yeah,
56:31
I mean I haven't been in years, but like there's
56:33
definitely like a I have a fondness for the activity.
56:36   Speaker 1
You're saying you contribute to that lobbying organization.
56:38   Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, give me.
56:39   Speaker 1
They do important war money, right.
56:41   Speaker 3
They do important work.
56:42   Speaker 4
But all that to say, I was watching this video
56:44
of these people who were like I guess like vloggers
56:47
who fucking just go on cruises like all the time,
56:49
and it's just weird to see their level of excitement, like,
56:52
oh my gosh, this is the Pearl and it's just
56:54
like some shitty looking orb in the middle of the
56:57
ship that like you walk through like a staircase, and
57:00
then just like how low the bar is for these
57:03
people to get so excited because it's it's like a
57:05
fever dream on that thing. There's just so much shit
57:08
crammed on top of other stuff, Like visually, it's so
57:12
chaotic that I definitely don't see how like you could
57:14
relax on that.
57:16   Speaker 5
But like going to how people are with Disneyland.
57:19   Speaker 1
Yeah, I was going to say Disney adults.
57:21   Speaker 5
Yeah, and also there's that one cruise that's going to
57:24
every continent for a year, right, and yeah, people are
57:29
you know posting the drama and stuff on their tiktoks
57:32
about yeah what it's like, you.
57:34   Speaker 4
Know, and there's like a beef between the World Travelers
57:38
and the segmentors. I don't know if you oh, that's right,
57:40
it's yeah some people. Yeah, some people had to buy
57:44
that like nine month around the World voyage everything up
57:47
like up front for every single thing. And then because
57:50
the sales were kind of like relax, they're like they
57:52
allowed people to just purchase different segments of the voyage,
57:56
and so all those people are like like apparently I've
57:58
seen a few tiktoks.
57:59   Speaker 3
Like being excluded from all these groups on Facebook because
58:02
they don't want segmentors involved, because they feel they're really
58:06
pissed off that segmentors got a better deal than them,
58:08
and they just all they can do, like, and these
58:10
people like who bought the World package are like all
58:13
I'm like, all I'm I am is being reminded every
58:16
day for nine months that I overpaid for some shit
58:19
and I fucking hate and you're like.
58:24   Speaker 5
I mean I love that both groups are unhappy because
58:27
they hate them both.
58:28   Speaker 4
Right, Yeah, truly you got Lori segmentors of the world.
58:34   Speaker 3
They lose, we win.
58:35   Speaker 1
Lori Kilmartin. Such a pleasure having you. Where can people
58:38
find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
58:41   Speaker 3
Oh?
58:41   Speaker 5
You know you can find everything at Lori Kilmartin dot com.
58:44
L A U R I E on one of those lories.
58:47
Kill Martin went l and kill Martin and my specials
58:50
there and old specials are there, and TikTok and Instagram
58:54
and Twitter links and all that kind of stuff.
58:56   Speaker 1
Amazing. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
59:00   Speaker 5
Well, you know, I'm watching the Fear of the Walking
59:03
Dead with my son. We watched all of The Walking Dead,
59:06
all eleven seasons seasons this year, and now we're watching
59:09
Fear of and uh, I'm so bummed. I didn't get
59:12
into it when it was like real time, but it's great.
59:15   Speaker 1
I love it.
59:16   Speaker 5
I didn't think i'd love zombie stuff and I love
59:19
it amazing.
59:21   Speaker 1
Yeah, I haven't watched that.
59:22   Speaker 3
I'll have to check it out.
59:24   Speaker 5
It's a huge investment of your time. Yeah, it's massive.
59:28   Speaker 1
I won't check it out, but I will say that
59:31
I might check that out.
59:33   Speaker 4
I love how quickly you just did, Like, I can't
59:35
be that deceptive.
59:37   Speaker 1
I got to be true to myself here. I'm not
59:39
going to check that shit out. There's so much TV
59:41
I need to watch.
59:43   Speaker 5
I know, I know, yeah, yeah.
59:45   Speaker 1
I think it's why I have like so many dreams
59:47
where I'm like behind in the syllabus in college again,
59:50
is because because I'm behind on TV so much. My god,
59:54
damn it.
59:54   Speaker 3
Now. Yeah, you know what.
59:56   Speaker 5
What I'm watching that's more current is something called Money Heights.
1:00:00
Have you heard of it?
1:00:01   Speaker 1
Yeah?
1:00:01   Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah, that's like a Spanish show, originally.
1:00:04   Speaker 5
Spanish show, and they also did a Korean version where
1:00:07
they had a similar plot as a Spanish one, but
1:00:09
they switched a bunch of stuff up because they made
1:00:12
it like a collaboration between North and South Koreas. There's
1:00:15
all this other stuff going on politically. I just watched
1:00:19
them both. They're so great. They're on Netflix.
1:00:21   Speaker 1
Nice Miles, Where can people find you as their working
1:00:24
media you've been enjoying?
1:00:26   Speaker 5
Uh?
1:00:26   Speaker 4
Yeah, find me on the app based platforms Miles of Gray.
1:00:30
Also find Jack and Ire on Jack and Are on
1:00:33
our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack Gott Mad Bursts and
1:00:37
if you like Nandy Day Fiance. You can find me
1:00:39
on my other podcast with Sofia Alexandra for twenty Day Fiance.
1:00:45
Let's see a tweet that I like is from al
1:00:49
at the Dark Prowler and there's just like this. There's
1:00:52
a video post underneath it and it's Stephen A Smith
1:00:55
sports commentator at like a video screen that like has
1:00:59
like a bunch of Pokemon like like characters on it.
1:01:03
And the tweet says me trying to conceal trying to
1:01:07
conceal tears after learning my wife cheated on me, my
1:01:10
five year old son in the back of my GMC
1:01:12
grand Sierra.
1:01:15   Speaker 10
You know what, I kind of like Charrazad, the fire
1:01:20
on the tail, the wings he can fly to Pokemon,
1:01:24
the claws on his feet, he could use that as
1:01:26
a weapon. He's not as limited as blast toys or
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than a soul.
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I'm gonna go with.
1:01:36   Speaker 4
Yeah, keep your chin up, folks, you know, protect them kids, man.
1:01:41   Speaker 3
Sorry Trawlers.
1:01:44   Speaker 1
Tweet I've been enjoying. Alan Wagner tweeted this picture of
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at least all my neighbors are on the same page
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for once, and it's just like one of those public
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postings on a telephone pole. Someone posted how to punish
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my daughter question mark my daughter is biting hair. I'm
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a single father, so I don't have the quote maternal
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instinct calling all moms. Best way to tell her this
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is not okay without being too harsh, please write the answer.
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And then the first line says, feed her a stew,
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Feed her a stew that makes her blind, And then
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the next line says, feed her a stew that makes
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her go blind for one day, and then the next
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one says stew that blinds her for a day, Feed
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her a type of stew that makes her blind for
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one day, and then the last one says one day
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blinding stew.
1:02:35   Speaker 3
Shit fucking destroyed.
1:02:40   Speaker 1
Anyway you mean? You can find me liking things like
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we talked.
1:03:01   Speaker 3
About in today's episode, as well as a.
1:03:03   Speaker 1
Song that we think you might enjoy mild What song
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do you think people might enjoy.
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I was talking about this, these dang TikTok beats get
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stuck in my head, and there it's an instrumental to
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a rap song. I played this for you yesterday by
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the artist or group, I'm not sure, the Buttress. And
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but the thing that's been trending is the instrumental version
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of the track.
1:03:26   Speaker 3
I haven't even heard what.
1:03:27   Speaker 4
The track sounds like with vocals, so I'm going to
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represent I'll recommend the instrumental because it just sounds like
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a creepy, like fight beat, like a fife like I'm
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like talking about, like I don't know, like medieval hip
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hop kind of thing. It's called brutus parenthetical instrumental, So
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the instrumental.
1:03:44   Speaker 3
To the track Brutus.
1:03:45   Speaker 4
And I'm sure if you're online as much as I am,
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you've probably heard it.
1:03:48   Speaker 3
But it's kind of a kind of a dope beat.
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So check that out, all right.
1:03:52   Speaker 1
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