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episode 5: Hospitals Need A Vibe Check, GOP’s Worst New Brain 03.08.24  

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In episode 1638, Jack and Miles are joined by Ethio-American vocalist, songwriter, and composer, Meklit Hadero, to discuss… Meet Mark Robinson The GOP Candidate For NC Governor, The VA Just Backtracked On Their Plans To Ban A Controversial WWII Photo, Making Hospitals More Musical Could Save Lives--Study Finds and more!

  1. Mark Robinson, the North Carolina GOP nominee for governor, is off the rails even by MAGA standards
  2. The VA Just Backtracked On Their Plans To Ban A...

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 March 8, 2024  1h1m
 
 
00:00   Speaker 1
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three twenty eight,
00:03
Episode five, the grand finale, Season three twenty eight of
00:09
der Daley's I Guys Say production of iHeartRadio. This is
00:13
a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's
00:17
shared consciousness. My body is a resonance chamber, according to
00:23
our guests today, so we believe just a little exploring
00:26
the ranges from up here.
00:28   Speaker 2
To that's just a scream to sing, baby to see.
00:34   Speaker 1
It's Friday, March eighth, twenty twenty four.
00:37   Speaker 2
Yes, that means it's National Peanut Cluster Day. National. Hey,
00:41
shout out to all the editors out there. It's National
00:43
proofreading Day. You know what I mean. Proof read your shit,
00:47
proofread your work, you know what I mean. And also, Jack,
00:50
shout out to your birth state. It's National Oregon Day.
00:54   Speaker 1
Oregone. Yeah, how about that. It's a national like three
01:00
times eight is twenty four, so that day of the
01:02
month when the first two numbers make the last one.
01:06
So shout out to basic multiplication.
01:08   Speaker 2
Is that a thing are you guys doing? Like beautiful
01:10
mind type shit right now?
01:12   Speaker 1
Like the dumbest beautiful mind ship. Two plus two equals four,
01:17
four plus two equals six.
01:19   Speaker 3
Like I've got the John Nash thing, but it's the
01:22
most basic mask.
01:25   Speaker 2
Three a A one.
01:29   Speaker 1
Kindergarten, kindergarten, beautiful mind. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien aka.
01:35
It's a murder in the back yard. Crows are looking for.
01:39   Speaker 4
Some food almonds Gonna make these goddamn birds my friends.
01:44
That has a courtesy of Vicky Sage Murder on the
01:47
Dance Floor about the murder of crows that I want
01:50
to be friends in my backyard. I got some wild
01:53
advice from frequent guests Ben Bolan about how to be
01:58
a friend a murder of crows.
02:00   Speaker 1
I should have just like gone directly to him right like.
02:03   Speaker 2
It felt a little like spicy where he's like, bro,
02:06
you're how are you going to ask about Corvid's Yeah,
02:08
not hit me up? Is wrong with you? Corvid? Yeah?
02:13   Speaker 1
Every time I hear Corvid, I think of your New
02:16
Zealand's accent.
02:18   Speaker 2
Thing Corvid, Corvid, Corvid nineteen, Corvid nineteen.
02:23   Speaker 1
I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co
02:26
host mister Miles ground.
02:28   Speaker 2
Break Old Lead.
02:33   Speaker 5
He's a man who's fingers aw soo old they are
02:40
ice called old finger.
02:48   Speaker 2
That's obviously Shirley basically from a Goldfinger the titular song
02:52
from the gold Fingers Shout out Ana, Ramic, you and
02:55
sltis for that one, because you know that's yeah. That
02:58
was like when I was first like, you know, messing
03:00
around with making beats. That was like one of the
03:02
first tracks that I sampled because the song starts off
03:05
with this wild brass hits and I was like, oh my,
03:10
just blaze shit back then. But anyway, if you're trying
03:12
to make friends with some.
03:13   Speaker 1
Corvids with that wild vocalization, to me, my Hills, we
03:20
are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
03:23
a wildly talented Ethio American vocalist, songwriter, composer. Her most
03:30
recent album was named among the best albums of the
03:33
year by band Camp in the Sunday Times, She's performed
03:35
on stages all over the world. The host of a
03:37
podcast radio series, Live Show, Please Welcome the brilliantly talented mcley.
03:46
Thank you, Welcome back, returning Champion. How are you.
03:51   Speaker 6
I'm I'm really good. I'm feeling sparkly today.
03:54   Speaker 2
All right, all right, we like that. We like Yeah,
03:57
people don't know this, but we demand our guest sparkle. Yes,
04:01
you are, but you are covered in sparks sparkling. Yes.
04:05
And how's the weather, rider, how's the weather in the
04:08
Bay Area?
04:09   Speaker 6
It has been raining and raining and raining and raining
04:13
and raining and raining and raining, raining and raining and
04:15
raining and raining, but today's kind of.
04:17   Speaker 2
All right, Yeah, we got a peak of sun. So yeah,
04:20
I don't like that the weather app like suddenly be like,
04:22
oh yeah, it's going to be a torrential downpour in
04:24
like an hour.
04:25   Speaker 6
It's not even an hour. It's like it'll be like
04:28
it's all clear, and yet my socks are already soaking
04:32
from being outed for two minutes.
04:35   Speaker 1
So you have that wild new AI technology where your
04:38
socks get pre wet before it before it even rains.
04:42   Speaker 6
You know what sucks the worst. It's just the worst.
04:46
They just ruin your day anyway.
04:48   Speaker 2
So yeah, that and I think I was talking about this,
04:50
I forget where, but when your shoes are so wet
04:53
to the insoles and they're gushing. That's also one of
04:56
my most hated sensations.
04:58   Speaker 1
We were talking about that on our basketball podcast, Miles
05:00
and Jackob Matt Boost because there was a Converse shoe
05:04
that was like, oh, Nike you're gonna put air in
05:07
the bottom of your shoes. Well, we're gonna put liquid
05:11
in the bottom of our shoes. React juice. It was like, No,
05:15
people don't like, didn't want they did.
05:17   Speaker 6
That sounds gross.
05:19   Speaker 2
Squash squash, yeah.
05:21   Speaker 1
Like it just that's not what people are looking for
05:24
when they're running around on the basketball court is wet shoes.
05:27   Speaker 2
But that's the thing they never made it. That wasn't
05:29
really like the promise, you know, just more that it
05:31
would get I don't know whatever, that somehow the liquid
05:35
reacted to your muice would.
05:37   Speaker 6
Bring it back to what the brand intent.
05:39   Speaker 1
The physics never made any sense to me whatsoever.
05:42   Speaker 2
No, No, there's a commercial. This one's with J. R.
05:46
Ryder from nineteen ninety four. No, Converse shoes would react choice.
05:50
They're super light, you're perfect for you.
05:57   Speaker 1
And he comes out.
05:59   Speaker 2
But if then he's just dunking a bunch, it's not
06:02
clear what the juice is doing.
06:05   Speaker 1
Oh it turned him into a scary were wolf.
06:07   Speaker 6
That he's a wolf.
06:08   Speaker 7
He's a wolf and some game page you got.
06:13   Speaker 2
Anyway, Anyways, the way we were selling things to people,
06:17
Hey yeah, kid, yeah, we got to react juice and
06:19
he turned to a were wolf.
06:20   Speaker 1
Yeah, all right, I guess that's good for basketball. I
06:23
respect it. I respect that there's still room for like
06:26
strange looking sixty eight year old men on TV back then,
06:31
you know, now that would have been Chris Hemsworth trended.
06:36   Speaker 2
Rather than like a retired butcher from New Jersey.
06:38   Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, all right, mclet we're gonna get to know
06:43
you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
06:45
gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we'll
06:46
be talking about in a little bit. We're gonna talk.
06:49
We're gonna get to meet a new just completely broken
06:52
brain has dropped Freak of the Week, Mark Robinson, the
06:56
GOP candidate for North Carolina governor and man just a
07:02
murderer's row of beliefs that we've got here, truly.
07:06   Speaker 2
Now that says a lot when even like the people
07:08
on the writer are like, this guy's a amazing they
07:11
have electability problems, So yeah, we'll dive into those.
07:16   Speaker 1
We're gonna talk about the World War two photo of
07:19
the sailor dipping the woman over backwards kissing her in
07:24
Times Square on V Day. It's the I guess it's
07:27
called VJ Day and Times Square it is controversial because
07:32
a lot of questions about consent in that one yea,
07:36
not really questions, just facts about consent that people who
07:41
are familiar with picture, who you know, don't care about
07:44
things like consenter just like, ah, shut up. So we're
07:47
gonna talk about that because that's been in the news
07:49
lately because of the VA banned it from their hospitals.
07:54
And then we're like, psych, we just wanted to do
07:57
make sure you knew that we weren't gonna ban it,
08:00
and so right, I'm.
08:01   Speaker 2
Just glad you heard that.
08:02   Speaker 1
Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna talk about music in the hospital
08:08
because hospitals apparently if they were willing to be a
08:12
little bit more musical and a little less beepy, fewer
08:15
people would die. So all of that plenty more. But first, mcleat,
08:20
we do like to ask our guests, what is something
08:22
from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
08:27   Speaker 6
All Right, I was just searching there's this there's like
08:30
a new Apple Plus show called Constellation, and I was
08:34
searching is Constellation horror? Because I started watching it and
08:41
then there are these certain sounds and you're like, wait
08:43
a minute, is this is this sci fi? Or is
08:45
this like sci fi horror because I cannot do horror movies.
08:50
I can't. I don't want to talk about ghosts. I
08:51
don't want to watch nothing about ghosts. I don't want
08:54
to watch nothing about some creepy stuff that's going to
08:57
give me nightmares, or like when I wake up in
08:58
the middle of the night, I think about some kind
09:00
of no, no horror movies. So, yeah, it's Constellation horror.
09:05   Speaker 2
But is it horror?
09:07   Speaker 6
Well I didn't keep watching.
09:10   Speaker 1
I'll tell you that.
09:14   Speaker 6
Yeah, Like there are these sounds, It's like, oh, this
09:16
is a horror soundtrack. I then one site said yes,
09:19
and I was out. I was like, no, no, I can't.
09:22   Speaker 1
That's it.
09:22   Speaker 2
That's it.
09:23   Speaker 6
I can't. I can't do horror.
09:24   Speaker 2
Horror. Yeah, a lot of talk of ghostly voices. Yeah, yeah,
09:30
do it. So I don't. I don't like to unwind
09:31
to that kind of stuff either.
09:33   Speaker 1
So where does the film Alien fall for you? Have
09:38
you seen the film Alien?
09:39   Speaker 6
I have seen it.
09:41   Speaker 1
And horror sci fi?
09:44   Speaker 6
Well, a horror is a hyphenated horror sci fi. I
09:48
will say that. You know, it's a little bit more
09:53
thriller to me. Yeah, you know, it's like it's like
09:56
it's on the other side of the line. But I
10:01
just get creeped out, Like I wake up in the
10:03
middle of the night a lot because I have a
10:06
four and a half year old, and then yeah, and
10:09
then those things they just like like, that's not what
10:11
I want to be thinking about at three in the morning.
10:13
I just I don't.
10:16   Speaker 1
Having a young child really puts you in a lot
10:19
of horror movie settings, Like because you're walking around late
10:23
at night, you don't get as much sleep. You'll wake
10:26
up and there will be a child standing at your bedside,
10:29
just like staring at you, like like a horror movie.
10:32
Like that shit happens to me all the time. Oh
10:34
Jesus Christ.
10:36   Speaker 2
I used to do that. I was checking if my
10:38
mom and my grandma were breathing. Yeah, yeah, And I
10:42
would and then I'll go back to bed. And I
10:43
remember my mom like she would catch me a couple
10:45
of times. She'd be like, please, it's it scares.
10:47   Speaker 6
Me, super creepy, And they whisper.
10:50   Speaker 1
Yeah, you held a mirror up to their mouth and
10:54
when they fogged it up, you were a red rum
10:56
on it. What I was just making sure you were
11:00
still breathing.
11:01   Speaker 2
Breathing.
11:02   Speaker 6
God, it's definitely over some kind of line.
11:04   Speaker 1
But yeah, yeah, so is it the supernatural, like that's
11:12
what you don't funk with.
11:13   Speaker 2
Yes, I don't funk okay, Okay, So you're fine with
11:16
like a just a regular human guy murderer terrorizing people,
11:21
Like is that okay? Or is that still horror? And
11:23
you're like just morally you're fine with that.
11:25   Speaker 1
It sounds like yeah, it sounds like you're gonna cos
11:27
opponent serial killers.
11:29   Speaker 8
Wow.
11:30   Speaker 2
Okay.
11:31   Speaker 6
What I'll say is I have stopped watching like all
11:36
of those shows, those like you know, human Killer, blah
11:40
blah blah, true crime. It's all about hurting women. So
11:43
like that I have stopped. I have stopped, but more like,
11:47
oh there it is again. God just noticing how much
11:51
it's that, you.
11:52   Speaker 2
Know, right right right? Yeah yeah, well now maybe maybe
11:56
maybe I'll do this Constellation challenge and watch it t
11:58
I no, no, no, no, no, this.
11:59   Speaker 9
Is wait well thank you No, yeah, I don't like
12:05
I'm I think it's because like I'm just such a
12:07
like I'm like THC the person like I like to
12:10
be chill, So anything that gets me stressed out, like
12:13
for entertainment.
12:14   Speaker 2
I'm like no, no, no, life is already stressful. I
12:18
need to go to the land of not you know
12:20
what I mean.
12:22   Speaker 1
I always find it interesting that Star Wars is like
12:25
completely flat lines every time they put it out in China.
12:29
And one of the reasons people point too is that
12:34
China doesn't fuck with ghosts because and like Star Wars,
12:38
cut is just like somebody who died, just like pops
12:41
up and they're like, I'm blue now and I can
12:43
like pass a.
12:44   Speaker 2
Long information to you.
12:45   Speaker 1
And apparently the Chinese film going audience is just like
12:49
what the fuck like won't even even countenance it. So right,
12:53
I'm just saying a little life hack for people who
12:55
don't fuck with supernatural things but don't mind a nice
12:58
little thriller. Check out the box office performance in China
13:03
to see.
13:03   Speaker 2
Right, Oh right, got it? Yeahmark it? Yeah, I love it.
13:08
If they're more just like it's really weak writing to
13:10
be honest, yeah, you know, like there so much day.
13:15   Speaker 1
Yeah, I mean I can see that. What is something
13:19
you think is underrated?
13:20   Speaker 6
Going to bed early, like three times a week. I've
13:24
started going to bed at like eight thirty, and I
13:27
know it sounds so so early, but I've been on
13:32
my like three days a week of eleven hours of sleep,
13:35
and I'm.
13:36   Speaker 1
Just, oh my god, I know what.
13:39   Speaker 2
I love it you're able to stay in bed that long.
13:43
You can pull off eleven like that, that many hours
13:45
straight of sleep.
13:46   Speaker 6
I mean I never used to be able to, but
13:48
once again I will return to the four and a
13:51
half year old. What is it about those little little
13:54
creatures that just requires so much energy? I mean it's
13:59
all it's amazing every but so much energy that like
14:02
eight thirty rolls around and I'm like, I'm I'm done.
14:07   Speaker 2
Absolutely, Yeah. I got in bed at nine thirty last night.
14:11   Speaker 1
Oh my god, you can't stay awake.
14:13   Speaker 6
Also, there their sleep like rolls over you and.
14:17   Speaker 1
Just like so peaceful. They don't have anxiety yet, it's yet,
14:23
except for except for young Miles Gray. Just they're who
14:28
walked over and like make sure you're still breathing.
14:30   Speaker 2
Yeah, it's gotta make dude. Yeah, I was fair. I
14:32
mean I was I've always been kind of an anxious. Kids.
14:36
They alive.
14:37   Speaker 1
Yeah, no, take advantage of that. Take advantage of that.
14:40
Like if you're able to sleep eleven hours, god damn,
14:43
I know, but it's my hat's off.
14:45   Speaker 6
Yeah, just just a few times a week a few
14:47
times a week.
14:48   Speaker 1
Yeah, kids, Yeah, if you can get on the same
14:51
schedule as your kids, like that's right.
14:54   Speaker 2
Yeah yeah. I started going to bed at seven like
14:56
my baby. Yeah all right.
14:59   Speaker 6
I think it was the two years of waking up
15:01
ten times a night that did it. Maybe I'm still catching.
15:03   Speaker 2
Up from that.
15:04   Speaker 1
I don't know, Yeah, sure, sure, sure. I feel like
15:06
my that period just like ruined my nervous system and
15:09
now I just like wake up at four point thirty
15:11
every morning, just like.
15:14   Speaker 2
Oh okay, all right everything?
15:17   Speaker 1
What is what something you think is overrated?
15:19   Speaker 6
High heels one hundred percent over rated? Don't want to
15:25
wear them, don't want to think about them, don't want
15:28
to see them my feet. Like I at one point
15:32
I had all these high heels. I just I threw
15:35
them away and it was so fun. It was like
15:38
it was like I was like, oh, this is the
15:39
time when I actually want to, you know, burn the trash.
15:44
It was it was like it really, high heels, it's
15:46
too much, it's too much, so overrated.
15:48   Speaker 2
Did you snap the heel off the shoe like like
15:51
a wishbone, like in a BacT of liberation, You're like, ah,
15:55
like give me another pair.
15:57   Speaker 6
That sounds like it would be a wonderful set of release. Yeah,
16:03
maybe next time.
16:04   Speaker 2
What are you wearing? Now? What's what's your what's your
16:06
foot game? Like?
16:07   Speaker 6
Like now I like fancy sneakers. Yeah, I'm into the
16:11
I'm into the fancy sneakers, especially you know, on stage whatever,
16:15
and then boots. That's it, some fancy sneakers.
16:19   Speaker 2
Okay, boots.
16:20   Speaker 1
I was talking to somebody who is like a real
16:23
like foot like footwear snob in a way that I
16:26
hadn't encountered, where he was like, well, see, the thing
16:29
is with you with most kids' shoes, the toe box
16:32
is too narrow. You need to let their toes spread out,
16:36
and like most of our shoes, you're like walking in
16:39
a pillow. You can't like grip the ground. You need
16:42
like shoes that have like barely any that make you
16:44
feel like you're walking barefoot. And it all made sense
16:47
to me. Sounds like a lot of work.
16:49   Speaker 6
Is that the kind of person who wants you to
16:51
wear the toes that like the shoes that are like
16:53
toe Yeah, totally he.
16:54   Speaker 1
Did not, And I asked him a number of times.
16:57
I was like, but you're trying to get me to
16:59
wear those two toe shoes, right, you're part of that
17:02
cult that has the particulated toes at the end of
17:06
the free at the end of the shoe. It's but
17:09
I truly, based on everything he was saying, I can't
17:15
imagine a worse thing for a human foot than fucking
17:21
high heels. Unbelievable. Shouldn't be allowed.
17:25   Speaker 2
This is I don't know if you see this. This
17:26
is a video my friend sent me when they went
17:28
to a parent teacher conference of another parent who had
17:31
leather toe shoes. Wow. That's real. Wow those are And
17:36
I was like, they look like if Darth Vader was
17:38
wearing those toe shoes. Like the ascetic of the shoe.
17:41   Speaker 6
Yeah, I mean it looks like a costume. It looks
17:44
like a looks like.
17:45   Speaker 1
It's like a Christian Bales batman like became like dropped
17:52
LSD and like moved.
17:54   Speaker 2
Yeah, became skin basically. Yeah. Well, you know, I like
17:59
being foot, so like I'm not like against the idea
18:02
of like something that mimics that, but part of me
18:04
is like I'll just be barefoot, you know, like I
18:06
do a lot of barefoot, like around the house or
18:09
just like if I have to go up the street
18:10
or something. I'm not. I'll go to the mailbox and
18:12
bare feet.
18:13   Speaker 6
Really, I mean yeah, so there's in your neighborhood, there's
18:18
no I.
18:19   Speaker 2
Know how to I know how to dodge it. Okay,
18:21
I'm nimble, I'm spry, and I can do all. I
18:24
can dance around it. But like as a kid growing
18:26
up like in La, I just was always barefoot, especially
18:29
in the summer, so like the blacktop, like my feet
18:32
like just became accustomed to summer asphalt barefoot. And I
18:36
kind of take that now that's the point of pride.
18:38
Although the bottoms of my feet look terrible. They look
18:42
like flintstone ships.
18:43   Speaker 1
But whatever, flintstone ships.
18:46   Speaker 2
Yeah, well, I mean, like you know the ships. Yeah yeah,
18:50
not not they're not.
18:51   Speaker 1
They're but there was a part of the flintstones that
18:53
my brain had blocked out. Oh no, but you're just
18:59
saying that. Like the skin on the bottom of your
19:01
feet is like three inches oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
19:05   Speaker 2
And anytime like I've I've gone to like I remember
19:08
I got like a petticure once when I was working
19:10
on a campaign with all the other campaign people, like
19:12
it was like right after election. It was on election.
19:14
They were like all right, it, work's done. Let's just
19:17
we can treat yourself. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was
19:20
cool because I'd never done it before, and like all
19:22
these people, I was like, no, not go ahead, come on,
19:24
come on. They went, and the amount of time they
19:26
spent on the bottom of my feet, I was like, Oh.
19:29   Speaker 1
Did they do the sanding thing, like the cheese grater
19:31
on the bottom of your feet where there's just like
19:33
a pile of grated parmesan.
19:37   Speaker 2
They yeah, they put a respirator on and like like
19:40
an air vent like they were cooking at like a
19:42
tepanyaki restaurant or something.
19:44   Speaker 6
You needed one of those treatments where the fish come
19:47
and eat the dead skin off your feet.
19:49   Speaker 2
Yeah, I see that all the time. Yeah. I'm like,
19:52
but then part of me is like, is that really
19:53
good eating on there for you? That good eating? Okay?
19:57   Speaker 1
They just give up the fight and they're like, geez enough, Yeah, yeah, right,
20:04
like pandorizer, you get some a one on this. It's
20:07
a little well done.
20:09   Speaker 2
Salted a little bit before you come to the damn All.
20:12   Speaker 1
Right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back
20:15
and talk about some news. We'll be right back and
20:28
we're back and new Broken Brain just dropped Mark Robinson,
20:35
GOP candidate for North Carolina governor. I had heard tell
20:40
of this man, yeah, but I didn't know the specifics
20:43
I mentioned him.
20:44   Speaker 2
You know how Trump said this guy's Martin Luther King
20:47
times too, But are you really the beginning of that
20:49
quote is this guy's Martin Luther King on steroids? Did
20:53
you really see that? That was the first the first
20:55
half of that quote that I missed. I just caught
20:57
him calling him Martin Luther King times too. Because again,
21:01
the GOP is deploying their favorite tactic of being like,
21:03
what if we got a black person to run as
21:07
a Republican and then maybe that'll excuse some of the
21:10
wacky nonsense that they're gonna stay out of their minds
21:13
and how.
21:13   Speaker 1
Like businesses pitch things. Now it's like this on steroids. Yeah,
21:17
Like that's he's truly being like I think that like
21:22
Martin Luther King and meets George Washington on steroids.
21:26   Speaker 2
Yeah, this guy's Martin Luther. He's got terrible back acne
21:30
and terrible impulse and rage controlled issues like wait what?
21:35
But yeah, so I feel like, you know, like every
21:37
election cycle we get one or two candidates on the
21:39
right that have just that extra special something you know that.
21:42
I mean, yeah, an absolute freak that was raised on
21:46
a diet of like Facebook shit posts and Alex Jones.
21:50
And well, this cycle's freak looks to be. As we've said,
21:53
Mark Robinson of North Carolina. He's the lieutenant governor. He's
21:56
running for governor against the state's attorney general, Josh Stein.
22:00
And man, this black man is so maggot out in
22:03
the brain that he comes off like the real Uncle
22:06
Ruckus from The Boondocks. I don't know if you watch
22:08
The Boondocks, but Uncle Rugus, like that's him. Okay, Before
22:11
I run down a list of some of his greatest hits,
22:14
I think it's important to remember that these massive culture
22:18
war grievance candidates do not perform well, as demonstrated in
22:22
twenty twenty two, as demonstrated by Ron DeSantis. But this
22:26
is what the GP's going with. So here's Mark Robinson
22:28
on the issues. Ready, here we go. On abortion, he
22:33
won't even use the word in public, he said, and
22:37
when he has used the word, he's likened it to slavery.
22:41
Voting rights, he believes women should not be allowed to
22:44
vote lgbt women should not be allowed to vote. Actually
22:47
that he said, we need to go back to the
22:49
time when women weren't allowed to vote voting before that
22:52
meet too nonsense.
22:53   Speaker 6
And he's already the lieutenant governor.
22:55   Speaker 2
He's already lieutenant governor. LGBTQ issues the end of civilist
23:01
and has also likened them to maggots. Not very great
23:04
civil rights movements. He said, a communist plot to overthrow capitalism,
23:08
and black people actually lost freedoms.
23:11   Speaker 1
A communist plot to overthrow capitalism.
23:14   Speaker 2
Yeah, I mean maybe because towards the end, I mean,
23:17
you know, Martin Luther King was speaking a little bit
23:19
more specifically about capitalism, but again his main takeaway though,
23:23
is that black people actually lost freedoms during the Civil
23:26
rights movement. George Soros, he's the mastermind behind Boco Haram
23:30
in Nigeria. The Holocaust never happened, moon Landing, Fake as Hell,
23:36
nine to eleven, Inside Job, Michelle Obama is a man.
23:41
Music industry ram by Satan reparations. Guess what, folks, Black
23:46
people should be paying money back rather than receiving reparations.
23:52   Speaker 1
That's just weird that, Like he got the music industry
23:55
one right, Yeah, you know.
23:57   Speaker 8
Yeah right, I was like, yeah, you know, kind of
24:02
based on what we're hearing, does not sound great, might
24:05
not be Satan the Dark the Prince of darkness, but
24:08
I you mean that there is there is a there
24:11
is a darkness that hangs over the music industry.
24:14   Speaker 2
And I was like, okay, yeah, I mean a nine
24:15
to eleven inside job. I mean I was nineteen at
24:17
one point, but yeah, this is uh but yeah, so
24:21
this guy turned the maga dial up to Jesse Helms
24:24
on crystal meth. And keep in mind that like North
24:28
Carolina voters are like, you know, they're the kind of
24:30
voters that will elect a Democrat as governor like Roy Cooper,
24:33
but then also Trump will win the state as president,
24:36
so they aren't always like it's it's a little bit
24:39
like less idiological sometimes. And you know, while he did
24:42
win the nomination, thirty five percent of Republicans rejected him
24:45
and his terrible beliefs, which is probably more likely to
24:49
help Democrats down ballot than anything. But yeah, it's just this,
24:54
this whole the black Maga shtick is just it just
24:57
obviously reeks of internalized white supremacy. But since you know,
25:01
white supremacists are pulling the strings politically on that side.
25:04
You know, they might as well just keep thinking that again,
25:06
having a black candidate is enough to offset all the nonsense.
25:11
I just listed every type.
25:12   Speaker 1
Of white supremacist we have now, you know.
25:14   Speaker 2
Yeah, exactly internalized, outward white supremacist. Curious's right, there's all
25:20
kinds that we have. But yeah, like just going down
25:23
that list, you're like, how do you expect to Okay,
25:26
I don't know. I don't know. I don't I haven't
25:28
seen Josh Stein's you know what his platform is either,
25:32
But it's just the this is again we're just starting
25:35
to see the new, the new all stars of the
25:37
twenty twenty four election cycle.
25:39   Speaker 1
Have we had a Holocaust denier like running for major
25:44
office like this major in office? That's pretty stag Like,
25:48
that's what did David Duke rum for? That's right? Okay,
25:54
we had.
25:55   Speaker 2
A literal clan wizard, you know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah,
25:59
but I but I guess because a lot of people
26:01
are like these are things he said on his Facebook
26:04
from a while back. But either way, these all come
26:07
together to form the we have no Yeah.
26:10   Speaker 1
So he'll come through with like the watered down HOLOCAUSTA
26:14
and I'll take I don't know what that even.
26:15   Speaker 2
I don't know if he's going to be pressed on it,
26:18
but yeah, this is it's just it's just it is.
26:21
It is wild to see it because I mean there
26:23
was also there there was another person. I mean, Trump
26:26
would always meet with these people, but yeah, running for
26:28
it's not that he's running on that platform, but he'll
26:30
probably do the thing where he's like, oh, I'm not talking,
26:32
but I was just old. I never said anything like that,
26:34
you know what I mean. He's like, I'm trying to
26:35
focus on denying people body autonic or he'll just like.
26:39   Speaker 6
Or he'll just like, you know, run wild off the
26:43
page of the talking points that the Republican Party is
26:47
trying to get it to stick to, you know what
26:49
I mean, because those things are so unhinged that it's
26:52
not a person who could like stay focused on like messaging.
26:57
It's just that that is I don't know, but it's like,
27:00
my how many times do I do I end up
27:03
speechless in a day because of like some wild assault,
27:06
Like I'm like, wait, what what?
27:10   Speaker 2
Truly truly And he was even saying like he's like,
27:13
you know, Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby are being maligned
27:17
like was was his take was a few years ago.
27:20
So he's you know, he's he's on the wrong side
27:23
of everything basically. So you know, I gotta love the consistency. Yeah,
27:27
he's just gotta make sure everything sir reparations. Nah, yeah,
27:34
we need to be paying money back. I was like, wow,
27:37
not even wrong. They're saying that.
27:44   Speaker 1
All the way wrong. He doesn't just want to be
27:46
part way wrong. He's gonna he's gotta follow it through
27:50
to the logical conclusion like this, Each each stance on
27:54
each issue is like a logic puzzle for him, where
27:56
he's like no, no, no, no, no, no no, we gotta go.
27:59
We gotta get every single point of this as.
28:01   Speaker 2
Wrongly as possible. Yeah right, so yeah, this is we
28:07
shall see what will happen in the fall. But like
28:10
I said, like having that that, that's probably going to
28:14
motivate some people to come out against him, to vote
28:16
against him. But hey, I don't know, you know, it's
28:18
twenty twenty four, we don't know anything right now.
28:20   Speaker 6
That times I think this stuff is about the Overton window.
28:23
You'll you know that, like yeah, right that exactly, just
28:27
like make it go so extreme that the people who
28:31
used to look extreme, look moderate. You know, there's like
28:35
because that's just like, what kind of strategy is that.
28:37
That's the only kind of strategy I can logically think
28:40
of that would make any of that make any kind
28:42
of sense.
28:43   Speaker 1
And it's much more popular with the Republican voter. Right,
28:47
so they do better in the primary than they're going
28:50
to do in the general.
28:51   Speaker 2
Right, exactly exactly, because like I said, in twenty twenty two,
28:54
there were a lot of wild election denialists, you know,
28:58
full hardcore maggot people, and majority of like especially the
29:02
people that like these are Trump's picked, they weren't losing,
29:04
and I remember at the end of the twenty twenty
29:06
two cycle, they were like what are we what's going on?
29:09
What do we do? It's like, it's your platform and
29:12
these absolute clowns that you're running out? What do you mean?
29:15
What's going on? Like have you seen what these people
29:17
say out loud?
29:19   Speaker 1
Yeah? But I remember there was a point like after
29:23
twenty twelve where the Republicans were like, we've just got
29:26
to like, you know, triangulate and become more moderate because
29:30
this stuff isn't popular. And instead they went in the
29:33
opposite direction and won the presidential election next time. So yeah,
29:39
I don't know, like, on the one hand that it's like, wow,
29:42
they're really digging their own grave. On the other hand,
29:45
our country there's some wild shit happening.
29:49   Speaker 2
Yeah, And it's weird because his campaign website, like there's
29:54
nothing about where like the issues. It's just like volunteer events,
29:58
get updates, donate meet Mark the first pair, Like I'm
30:03
just gonna read from his website. This is this is
30:05
how you get to meet him. Quote meet Mark. I
30:08
was I grew up as the ninth of ten children
30:10
in Greensboro. My father was an alcoholic who beat my mother.
30:12
He died when I was in the fifth grade, and
30:14
I was terrified. Damn wow. I was like, he's coming
30:18
out with that, Like it's like whoa, Okay, lot of
30:22
lot of heavy shit there. But then we go through
30:25
there's really nothing about like what his you know, like
30:28
the nothing that reflects just how extreme he is on anything,
30:31
because he probably can't put like on the issues abortion.
30:35
It's not gonna be like won't use the word in public,
30:39
you can't have that. But hey, there's I'm sure there's
30:42
still time for the consultants to get in. But yeah,
30:44
this is this is Donald Trump's favorite pick in North
30:48
Carolina's MLK on steroids, So because I think the other
30:52
thing about that too is Mark Robinson has said he
30:54
does not like Martin Luther King.
30:55   Speaker 6
Also, so yeah, well I mean again, did you yeah exactly,
31:01
I mean this guy, yeah.
31:02   Speaker 1
Right, that's he's on every Yeah. So yeah, that guy
31:06
was a comedy I guess according to his world.
31:09   Speaker 2
Coming over overthrow capitalism the greatest system ever known to man.
31:13   Speaker 1
That's right? Who all right? A little bit about the
31:18
photograph VJ. Day in Times Square, famous World War Two
31:21
picture in which a sailor and nurse kiss on the
31:23
street following news that Japan surrendered. It was temporarily like
31:28
there was a memo that went out for the Department
31:31
of Veterans Affairs that was basically saying, this doesn't fit
31:36
the values of the VA anymore. We now know that
31:39
this picture was taken, like was not consensual, and you know,
31:45
we want to foster a quote to foster a more
31:50
trauma informed environment, which is like, okay, where's the catch
31:56
That actually seems like y'all are doing the right thing there.
32:00
And then there was a massive backlash, of course from
32:02
the right. So just to give a little bit more
32:06
background on the photo. The most widely accepted theory is
32:10
that it's George Mendonza and Greta zimmer Friedman, and she
32:16
her account of things is that like, while that looks
32:19
like it could be confused as like a classy kiss
32:24
from like you know, a fella gal, yeah, it is
32:29
in fact a headlock. And like she he just walked up,
32:33
grabbed her, kissed her. And this was like happening kind
32:38
of all over the city, which is also why the
32:42
it's it's gotten this wider sort of reconsiderate reconsideration because
32:49
there was like on that day sailors just running around
32:54
like you know, kissing, groping and like assaulting women and
32:59
even and like young girls and like fighting the cops
33:03
to fight the cops, like tried to step in, they
33:06
would like fight the cops. So it's just this like
33:09
horrifying event that is kind of captured in this photo
33:14
that people have just sort of romanticized over the years.
33:18
The VA was like.
33:19   Speaker 10
Maybe we want to not not do that, maybe not,
33:24
And of course the right has freaked out, so Jesse
33:30
Waters of course had to weigh in, and it's just
33:35
the wilder shit I mean it seems like it's a
33:38
clip from mad Men.
33:40   Speaker 2
Yeah, we're talking about a photo that is just with
33:44
the history of it, because when you talk to the
33:46
people involved, like the guy just came up and kissed me, Okay,
33:50
here we go is does.
33:51   Speaker 1
That look non consensual to you.
33:53   Speaker 2
Julie, she doesn't seem to be fighting it.
33:56   Speaker 1
No, yeah, no, it's fine.
33:58   Speaker 2
She looks into.
34:00   Speaker 3
It, look at her hands.
34:01   Speaker 6
It's like limped out. She's like, take me right.
34:04   Speaker 1
And she was there when the sisters were returning from war.
34:07   Speaker 2
I mean, what did she expect? I mean, he's an America.
34:13
Could I bet you that's not only.
34:14   Speaker 6
She paid him back with oh wow hah.
34:19   Speaker 2
Yeah, here's a footnote in that actual photo. His wife
34:23
is in the background, right, like girl girlfriend. Yeah, his
34:28
girlfriend that you're going to is in the background of
34:30
that photo.
34:31   Speaker 1
Like what the is it?
34:32   Speaker 2
Okay? George, and I love that the somehow they're they're
34:37
trying to forensic analysis on a still photo. Truly, uh again,
34:43
Like because I think all of it leads back to
34:45
how especially World War two is like treated as this,
34:49
like like the one time it's okay to fucking do war,
34:53
Like that's the good one it's the it's the clean war,
34:56
it's the good war. And I think anything that begins
34:59
to to pick that apart, of course, they're going to
35:03
begin to freak out because then that opens up a
35:06
larger discussion of what is armed conflict and what's its
35:09
place in our in our world.
35:10   Speaker 1
Yeah.
35:10   Speaker 6
I also think it's just part of like the inability
35:16
to reimagine our symbols, to like look at the symbols
35:20
that we that like that the country is kind of
35:23
built on and actually like think what's really going on here?
35:27
What's the what are you know? And so it's just
35:31
a kind of like it's the same thing that's happening
35:34
in the last several years with monuments, like what does
35:36
it really mean to like lift these images up and
35:40
these you know, frozen moments in time. But we have
35:44
to we have to do that work, you know.
35:47   Speaker 2
Yeah, no, truly, and then again we see the resistance
35:50
to it, which is to completely be like, no, Stonewall
35:53
Jackson was a good man. He was and he was
35:57
just he was merely on the side of of you know,
36:00
business and commerce.
36:02   Speaker 7
It has nothing to do with with with with slavery
36:05
or white supreme Oh gosh, Like why do we have
36:08
to begin opening this candle worms and a lot of
36:10
people like I think she was even saying, She's like,
36:12
my hand was down there because I was being careful
36:14
about my skirt.
36:15   Speaker 1
Trying to kiss my skirt from going up.
36:17   Speaker 2
Yeah, not because I was swooning that some man just
36:20
grabbed me on the street and kissed me on the mouth. Yeah,
36:22
and it was just wild too, how like like for
36:24
the anniversary that they tried, they made them repose that
36:28
for that photo like in the eighties.
36:30   Speaker 1
Yeah, holy nineteen eighty. But anyways, so VA officials like
36:35
who should maybe be taking things like this very seriously,
36:40
are now being like that that was an error. We
36:43
actually didn't mean to send that memo. You weren't supposed
36:46
to get that, which is especially galling because yeah, the whoops,
36:51
that was actually we didn't even mean to send. Sorry,
36:54
I didn't mean to hit.
36:55   Speaker 2
Some disregard my last dam disregard.
36:57   Speaker 1
Didn't mean to hit sent. But yeah, the VA, you
36:59
would they would want to be cleaning up their image
37:02
right now, considering that they're hot off the heels of
37:04
a scandal in which a whistleblower prompted an investigation into
37:07
widespread sexual harassment via Secretary Dennis McDonough, the guy who
37:13
so vehement ly wants to keep the photo, was specifically
37:16
accused of helping to shield allegations from the public and
37:18
congressional scrutiny. So yeah, that maybe was why they initially
37:24
made the right decision, but it's apparently not not going
37:28
to change how much. They're just going to keep their
37:31
fucking head down and yeah.
37:33   Speaker 2
Wow too, that's the least she could do. These guys
37:36
just got back from fighting war. I think the real
37:38
story is they were in the street because they thought
37:41
they were about to be shipped off for the full
37:43
scale land invasion of Japan.
37:45   Speaker 1
Yeah, and then they found out that and.
37:47   Speaker 2
Then they weren't, so they're like, oh great, yeah, we
37:51
don't have to anymore. It's just like, yeah, there's just
37:53
so many elements to it that like, yeah, it's interesting
37:56
how we've enshrined that image, especially to be sort of
37:59
like this like this wholesome, like being like and this
38:02
is the wholesome punctuation after we've dropped Adam bombs on civilians.
38:07   Speaker 6
Yeah, but then the minute that that wholesomeness is questioned,
38:10
it's like the language just becomes rapey. It's like the
38:13
way that it was just like like a what's the problem?
38:16   Speaker 1
Look at her, body, lang, she's asking for she she's
38:21
loving it.
38:21   Speaker 2
Look at us exactly. I mean, that's not all she did?
38:24
What what?
38:25   Speaker 1
Holy shit? For real? Yeah? Just the version of events
38:29
that Jesse Waters was setting up is that like, so
38:32
that's the day that Japan surrendered and those guys immediately
38:37
got home, like Japan surrendered and then they just came
38:41
home from what they were.
38:42   Speaker 3
Acted back Yeah hot damn yeah, and they and they
38:48
may have fought or whatever, but again it's just like
38:50
this weird logic too that suddenly that they had to
38:53
be like, okay, well if she didn't like it, then
38:56
the next thing to way to justify it is that
38:59
people who have fought in a war have carte blanche
39:02
to do whatever they want.
39:03   Speaker 1
Body Yeah, sounds like a good policy, guys.
39:06   Speaker 2
Yeah, well we expect nothing less from Jesse Waters. I mean, like.
39:09   Speaker 1
Jesus are truly really yeah, thoroughly fascist. But in this case,
39:14
like I do feel like they're probably I don't know,
39:18
like I feel like a lot of Americans are just
39:21
like don't take that one from me. Come on, that's
39:24
that's right, said, I've seen that postcard before. Don't make
39:28
me change my mind about it. Right, Yeah, it was
39:31
in a dang Coke commercial.
39:34   Speaker 2
I feel like a recreation. I mean that thing has
39:36
been like that brain Yeah, yeah, no, truly, Yeah, just
39:41
let it go. Yeah, I mean yeah, mclet your point
39:43
about just the imental the amount of like neural energy
39:48
it takes to be like, can I rewire my brain
39:52
to see this in a different way without it being
39:54
sort of like being the embodiment of the sanctity of
39:57
World War two? Right, it's very tough for people, and
40:01
I'm sure like especially for like these like Americans, Like,
40:03
but my grandpa was like one of those guys like yeah,
40:06
and he may have been a fucking freak too.
40:09   Speaker 1
My grandpa was kissing gals and they liked it. Okay, Yeah,
40:16
let's uh, let's take a quick break and we'll come
40:19
back and talk about music in the hospital. We'll be
40:22
right back and we're back.
40:35   Speaker 2
We're back, We're back. Okay.
40:41   Speaker 1
Let's see. So there's a story I think we covered
40:44
it on this show. I know it for some reason,
40:46
but about how like lighting in hospitals has been reevaluated
40:53
because for so long it was just putting people off
40:57
their circadian rhythm, and like sleep is such an important
41:01
part of the body being able to heal itself. So
41:05
there's been a whole rethinking of lighting in some hospitals,
41:09
like very like you know, progressive ones, but like to
41:11
try and give people as much sleep as possible when
41:15
they're healing when they're in.
41:17   Speaker 2
Hospital, yes, convalescing. But people are.
41:21   Speaker 1
Also pointing out like sounds, the soundscape of a hospital
41:26
is super annoying. Yeah, you know, alarms sounding on various devices,
41:33
just it sounds like a fucking casino, like a death
41:36
casino in there. It's just deeps loops like ringing, and
41:41
if you've ever been in there, like with a loved one,
41:45
it's fucking super stressful and like oh yeah yeah, Like
41:49
I can still remember the sound of like an alarm
41:52
that went off when like during the birth of our
41:56
first child. That was like terrifying, and like it's still
42:00
like yeah, So I feel like everybody has those experiences.
42:03
People who work at hospitals, like they they hear those
42:07
sounds in the shower, like in their sleep, wake up
42:12
hearing those sounds.
42:13   Speaker 2
It's like the same thing when people get like the
42:14
phantom like phone vibration in their pocket. Yeah you know
42:18
what I mean, Like did it be And you're like, no, dude,
42:20
you're just so used to it that like sometimes you're
42:22
just getting the phantom ones that your brain's like I
42:24
think maybe maybe people have.
42:26   Speaker 1
That with slack. I'm so glad that we're not like
42:29
a overly slack bist company.
42:32   Speaker 2
Like I think it's slack.
42:34   Speaker 1
I think it's like a little like kind of hollow
42:38
coconut knock is the thing that I've heard.
42:40   Speaker 2
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Yeah, Like like
42:44
if you're playing a drum kit made of pistachio shells
42:46
or something, the sound, Yeah, pistachio drum kit, pistasio.
42:55   Speaker 6
Kit would just make a good shaker.
42:58   Speaker 2
Yeah yeah, exactly.
43:00   Speaker 1
If you were a tiny little like cockroach playing a
43:04
pistachio drum kit maybe, yeah, like then that would be
43:07
base for you.
43:08   Speaker 2
Yeah, playing times to plaint Tom Sawyer by rush on there.
43:14   Speaker 1
But yeah, so the on the presence of beeping alarms
43:17
in hospitals is actually detrimental not just to the staff
43:21
but also to the patients who can't properly rest with
43:24
all the noises. And also it just like blends into
43:28
this like fog of sound that makes it harder for
43:33
people who work at the hospital to like recognize and
43:39
be aware of because there's just so many of them. Apparently,
43:43
like the alarms are only actually accurate like fifteen percent
43:49
of the time. Irrelevant, yeah, relevant, fifteen percent of the time.
43:54
So yeah, the desensitization to beeps created by alarm fatigue
43:59
led to quote a reported five hundred and sixty six
44:02
alarm related deaths between two thousand and five and twenty ten,
44:05
according to the FDA. And I mean, I'm sure that's
44:08
not counting every single one of them, right, Yeah.
44:12   Speaker 2
But that's interesting that they're saying, like the solution is
44:16
to have something more melodic or more musical or more
44:21
quote percussive with his quote short bursts of high frequency
44:25
energy like a xylophon's ping. But I guess in a
44:29
study show that that was just like actually it was
44:32
a little bit more effective than just a which I
44:37
guess I get.
44:38   Speaker 1
Right, Like all of the current soundscape comes from a
44:42
time when you had machines that could like you're like,
44:45
all right, we're gonna put this tiny little thing on
44:49
it sound maker thing on the machine, and that it
44:53
can make one sound but now we're at a place
44:55
where you don't you don't need that, like you can you.
44:58   Speaker 2
Could play Tom Sawyer by Rush there really.
45:05   Speaker 1
Is that like patient is dying.
45:08   Speaker 2
I don't know. That's just kind of hard, you know,
45:11
because I feel like melody is so fun. I think
45:14
what I think Quincy Jones said, melody is the voice
45:16
of God or whatever. So to put that in like
45:19
a medical context, I mean, I don't know, Like I
45:23
don't know if you want to create a bad connotation
45:25
or something when suddenly something's like standing alive and you're like, oh, ship,
45:31
like someone's.
45:31   Speaker 6
Crashing, but you have you could you could like here's
45:36
the thing I would be worried about is that they
45:39
would turn hospital sounds into like hold music, you know
45:45
how like hold. Like if you give a company, oh,
45:50
that's like the so who's gonna make it?
45:52   Speaker 1
Right?
45:53   Speaker 6
You give a company like the ability to like decide
45:55
about music, it's gonna be something even more awful. Like
45:59
you could actually you could actually like commission some musicians
46:03
to collaborate with like like acousticians and doctors, Yeah, and
46:10
make something together that would be kind of interesting.
46:13   Speaker 1
That would be super interesting. It would create jobs, you
46:16
could have like musicians like DJs. You know how many
46:19
out of work DJs they're about to be, Like an
46:22
entire generation wanted to be DJs, like you. Just every
46:27
intensive care unit has a DJ. That's just like channeling
46:30
the information to like create like a sound scape that
46:33
alerts everybody.
46:34   Speaker 2
But then people are turning up too much and yeah,
46:36
not doing their job.
46:38   Speaker 6
But I still don't see like as a musician, I
46:40
still don't see how you would like, there's no way
46:43
for it to not be a cacophony because it's so
46:45
many people, it's so many different kinds of information. It's
46:50
it's it's like there's the rhythmic ad Like you can't
46:54
actually do it rhythmically because you would be having so
46:57
many rhythms on top of each other.
46:58   Speaker 2
Yeah, start probably having polly.
47:00   Speaker 6
But there's definitely a way to make better sounds. Just
47:03
like I was thinking, like a glockenspiel. You know how
47:06
nice those are? It was just like people love those.
47:09   Speaker 2
You just wait, which.
47:12   Speaker 6
You talked about a xylophone. It's kind of like a xylophone,
47:15
but it's much but it's much more like it gets
47:19
your attention.
47:19   Speaker 1
But it's sler right, that makes sense.
47:24   Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, I mean that.
47:25   Speaker 1
So they have studied this and they said that sounds
47:28
with percussive timber, many of which contain short bursts of
47:31
high frequency energy, such as wineglasses clinking or xylophones, are
47:37
actually much better for getting people's attention, and they stand
47:42
out from like things that are loud flat tones that
47:48
lack high frequency components, like a reversing trucks beep.
47:52   Speaker 2
I like that.
47:53   Speaker 1
That's the example of the thing that doesn't get our attention,
47:58
the reversing drugs. I think you'd want to fucking like
48:01
not like lock that one in the thing that's like
48:04
gonna could just like back over an entire family of humans.
48:08   Speaker 2
I feel like that, don't mess with that one. You know,
48:10
we've all accepted we do know what that is. Yeah,
48:13
we're like, okay, that's that's something backing up. But I
48:16
think maybe we have the space to do that. And like,
48:18
to your point, it sounds like McLean, like there are
48:21
artists musicians that have been enlisted to like help make
48:25
things sound better.
48:27   Speaker 1
Yeah. Yoko k Sen in twenty seventeen, an electronic musician
48:31
who worked with healthcare companies to revamp the soundscapes and
48:34
hospitals and design new sounds for at home cardiac monitors.
48:39
Even back in the eighties, people were experimenting with this.
48:42
One guy came up with an elaborate series of melodies
48:45
that would signal different patient problems, but doctors and nurses
48:50
ultimately found it confusing. Like we kind of suspected, right,
48:55
this is also like just as synthpop was kind of
48:58
becoming popular, so I'm assuming there was like a lot
49:01
of just a lot of synth. It's a little synth
49:05
heavy for me.
49:07   Speaker 2
It's like, does it have to be rocket by Herbie Hancock? Like, okay, well, yeah,
49:15
that that might be a little bit tough. It's like, wait,
49:20
what does that mean again, Beverly Hills, someone's axel lead.
49:25   Speaker 1
Yeah, And that idea was rejected by the International Organization
49:32
for Standardization, But then they okayed another musical strategy with
49:36
alarms inspired by the NBC chime the Yoe oh chant
49:41
from Wizard of Oz And then it was like a disaster. Yeah,
49:45
they ended up having to come back and be like,
49:48
so the thing we tried while our head was in
49:50
the right place, these sounds that we chose were quote
49:56
basically terrible, basically terrible voice, that terrible is such a
50:02
great thing to say about the massive decision that you
50:06
went with. We ultimately went with some sounds that were
50:11
basically terrible, But I don't know like that we This
50:14
kind of came up recently when we were talking about
50:17
how like the problem that car companies are having to
50:21
solve with you know, electric vehicles being too silent and
50:26
therefore dangerous for people who don't hear them coming. And
50:31
so they have been working with internal engineers, but also
50:37
film scorers and you.
50:39   Speaker 2
Know composers, Yeah, composers.
50:41   Speaker 1
Yeah, they've been working with composers from the world of
50:44
film to like try and create unique sound signatures so
50:50
that it makes sense to me that you would do
50:51
that to hospitals, right, I mean you.
50:53   Speaker 2
Could do it.
50:54   Speaker 6
Like thinking about the way a space sounds is just
50:57
a good thing, Like it is a less high stakes environment.
51:03
But have you ever been to a restaurant and it's
51:05
so loud just from people talking that you can't actually
51:09
hear the person in front of you. It's like because
51:11
they haven't thought at all about how sound is going
51:14
to carry in that space, and then they created an
51:17
experience where you're like, actually, I want to get out,
51:19
or maybe they're trying to make you get out quickly
51:21
because they want to turn around, you know, turn over tables. Yeah, So,
51:24
like there's so much room to think about the way
51:27
that sound works in our spaces and actually make life
51:30
more pleasant and save hundreds of lives, like like they're
51:35
saying in that report.
51:36   Speaker 2
Because it might not just be like, well, you know,
51:38
the thing is, we just got to start using ring
51:40
tones like we used to back in the day. Like
51:42
this one can play like My Humps by Black Eyed Peas,
51:45
and then this one can play I'm a Hustler by Cassidy,
51:48
remember that one feature in jay Z. Like that's not
51:51
gonna like versus Tom Sawyer, but like what sonically makes
51:58
sense rather than like just beeps and boom, you know,
52:00
like is there another way that doesn't necessarily to be music,
52:04
But we are thinking of what the sound can be
52:06
that cuts through, that stands out, that is clinically relevant,
52:10
I think was the term that they were using.
52:12   Speaker 1
One of the best like examples of sound design that
52:16
I've ever experienced in like a physical setting was when
52:20
we were in the war, like the birthward for our children,
52:25
and they had like this little like harpsichord that played
52:29
basically every time a new human dropped, like every time
52:32
they're a new baby, they would just like play this
52:34
thing and you would be like, ah, a new new
52:37
soul like dropped like a like a Looney Tumbes thing
52:40
was like like a yeah, yeah, like a really gentle
52:44
harp sound, and that was like, hey, we just just
52:49
burst another one.
52:51   Speaker 6
Right, that's so wonderful.
52:53   Speaker 1
Yeah, that was really nice.
52:54   Speaker 6
It's like a it's almost like a community building thing
52:57
or like a hate you can do it too, or
52:59
like yeah, you know, it's it's an encouragement.
53:03   Speaker 1
We do this all the time.
53:05   Speaker 2
Yeah, that is one of the most new baby yeah,
53:07
like yah, don't do that.
53:09   Speaker 1
And then on the other end, like if they went
53:11
to an ICU, every time someone dies, they get the
53:13
Hanshimmer like whoah from the inception.
53:17   Speaker 2
To yeah right, which you could also do harp too,
53:21
you know, just to show that it's it's all just
53:23
that in reverse with maybe like some whispering in reverse,
53:27
or just to take away that sort of connotation that
53:29
it's still like it's peaceful, you know.
53:31   Speaker 1
It is like I have had the thought multiple times
53:33
that like it's kind of weird that chances are the
53:36
last place that you are going to be alive is
53:40
in a hospital where it sounds where it's like bathed
53:44
in fluorescent lighting and sounds like a casino twenty four
53:49
hours a day. Like that's kind of a weird way
53:52
to go out, but feels like it's like kind of
53:55
the place that most people do experience their last time
53:59
on Earth. So it would be if you could just
54:00
like kind of fix the vibes a little bit.
54:04   Speaker 2
You know, come on, hospital, let's figure it out. Vibes
54:07
are fucking off in here. The fucked up this cocophonic
54:11
I hate it.
54:12   Speaker 1
We got so many great musicians in this world. I'm
54:14
just saying, we got one of them on this show.
54:17
Like let's uh, let's go, let's get.
54:19   Speaker 2
Got any pitch. What would you do for instead of
54:21
a beep like Lee? What do you think? Like, what's
54:24
what do you think?
54:24   Speaker 6
Well, first of all, there's so many sounds that seem
54:28
to me, like like if you think about it, the
54:31
heartbeat monitor where it's like it beeps in every it's
54:35
like a regular thing that I don't understand why that's necessary,
54:41
Like why is it it should be that it beeps
54:44
when it's irregular? Like here's something to pay attention to, right,
54:47
So I would just cut out all first thing I
54:49
would do is just cut out everything that is not
54:52
giving me that information that that's not giving me relevant information, right,
54:56
because it's not like the nurses in there listening to it.
54:59
I'm the one listening to it. That makes no sense
55:02
to me. So I would just cut a bunch of
55:04
stuff that was, you know, or somebody tell me why
55:07
is it necessary? And maybe I'm just not seeing the
55:09
whole picture. That's possible, but then I think, I mean,
55:14
I would do things in high registers like trumpets, you
55:19
know those cut a lot right, nothing in any base tones.
55:24
But you could also have a thing where you could
55:26
kind of choose, you know, like if you were a
55:30
doctor and you're like, these are the sounds that like
55:32
there's some kind of level of personalization, you could see it.
55:35   Speaker 2
Yeah, in too, you know, like I only know this.
55:38
I only respond to the sound of a digital cow
55:40
bell on a eight to oho eight. That's just all
55:43
of that.
55:44   Speaker 6
Just turn it into that or like or like people
55:47
like I could see a lot of light information like
55:49
have you ever seen like how fire alarms also flash
55:54
right for people who are hearing impaired. That's also vary.
55:57
That we're such visual people, that should also happen, like, okay,
56:00
there's a code blue, I want a visual flashing bite
56:04
you know.
56:04   Speaker 2
Yeah, huh, we got we got work to do.
56:07   Speaker 1
The heartbeat monitor is pretty iconic, but it's had a
56:11
good like the you know, it's a it's a sound
56:15
that has really done a good job. I don't I
56:18
don't want to just dismiss it out of hand. It's
56:21
it's been putting in great work for many years. But yeah, yeah,
56:25
I mean the sound of a flat line, I mean nothing, Yeah,
56:29
that's just yeah, that's that's a little alarming, you know.
56:31
That's what I'm saying.
56:32   Speaker 2
Like that's when the like heart rate begins to like
56:36
like rise rapidly or decline rapidly, then like give that
56:40
a sound like to mcleat's point, But again, I'm not
56:42
a cardiologist. I'm not a medical professional. I'm somebody who
56:47
just like.
56:49   Speaker 1
Yourself.
56:50   Speaker 2
Well, my license was taken away, but that's because this
56:53
the state board is fucking ran by a bunch of
56:56
losers who don't know what they're.
56:58   Speaker 1
Doing, run by satan, just like the industry. Well, mclee,
57:03
what a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where
57:06
can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
57:09   Speaker 2
Well?
57:09   Speaker 6
I got a new album dropping today, y'all, so hey,
57:12
find me in all the places Mattley music dot com.
57:17
That's also all my handles m E K L I
57:21
T Music. Yes, yes, y'all, it's called Eto Blue, the
57:24
new EP amazing.
57:26   Speaker 1
And is there a work of media that you've been
57:29
enjoying besides your new album?
57:31   Speaker 6
I really enjoyed the uh Mister and Missus Smith on
57:35
Amazon Prime the Donald Blover did it was really good?
57:39   Speaker 1
It's really good.
57:40   Speaker 2
Yeah, what a blast.
57:42   Speaker 1
Miles. Where can people find you? What's working media you've
57:44
been enjoying?
57:45   Speaker 3
Yeah?
57:45   Speaker 2
Find me on the app based platforms at Miles of
57:48
Gray Fine Jack and I on.
57:50   Speaker 11
The basketball podcast Find yeah, Josh Gondolman was what a
57:57
that guy telling you absolutely guy freak a freak free,
58:04
the nicest guy I've ever met.
58:05   Speaker 2
Yeah, and then also find me on four twenty Day
58:08
Fiance talking about ninety day Fiance. Is there a tweet
58:11
I liked? Yeah, there's a couple. One is from at
58:16
j towrch ten thirty one. It says reading way above
58:18
my grade level did not get me as far in
58:21
life as I had hoped. Yeah, look it levels out
58:24
at a certain point. And then another one is like,
58:26
this is really only kind of funny, I think to
58:27
basketball fans, you know how, like in a broadcast, you'll
58:30
see the referee come over to the scorge table to
58:32
like explain what's going on, like, okay, were the plays
58:35
under review or whatever? Who is this? This is Jason
58:38
Gallagher at jg A four to one a g h
58:41
e R posted a picture that with a ref at
58:43
the scores table but looking down the camera and says, hey,
58:47
can I do a titos and soda with extra line
58:49
and I'll just close it out. I appreciate you broke
58:52
it like that bartender like you at the bar. He's
58:56
also got his arms on display. He's really like the triceps.
59:01
You know, y'all know what's up.
59:03   Speaker 1
A couple tweets I've been enjoying Andrew oh at the Overdall,
59:08
who I think has been on this podcast. Andrew Overdal
59:11
tweeted me to my dogs, I'm gonna feed you the
59:14
best food I can so you can live such long,
59:17
healthy and happy lives. Me to me another red baron
59:21
pizza for you, fuck face. And then Zach Dunn tweeted, Yeah,
59:35
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59:37
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1:00:02
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1:00:04
in today's episode, as well as a song that we
1:00:07
think you might enjoy. Miles is the song you think
1:00:09
people might I.
1:00:10   Speaker 2
Think just ride out on the well. See the song
1:00:13
that is out from the album Etial Blue is. I
1:00:16
was listening to it, So we'll go off to the
1:00:18
titular track from mclet eto Blue. The track is really dope.
1:00:23
I love the piano playing like you can you feel
1:00:26
the Ethiopian this, you know, just in the scales that
1:00:29
are being used and the saxophone and everything. It's just
1:00:32
for my lovers of music from across the world. I
1:00:35
think this is a really dope track for you to
1:00:37
get into and if you're not expand your horizons with
1:00:40
the work of mcleat. So this is etial Blue from mcleat.
1:00:44   Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, we will link off to that in the footnote.
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