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Speaker 1
Yo, yo, I feel like I have to drop my
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voice when when you co sleeper deep voice, you got
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that baritone as low.
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Speaker 2
As you can. Right now, let me go, what's like
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the lowest if you did a character voice with the
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lowest baritone?
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Speaker 3
Let me hear okay, cool?
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Speaker 4
Let me.
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Speaker 3
That was my normal speaking?
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Speaker 2
Cool cool?
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Speaker 3
Uh yo?
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Speaker 2
Whoas god?
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Speaker 5
Damn?
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Speaker 6
Yeah?
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Speaker 5
Yeah.
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Speaker 3
And the thing is is this is how my voices
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sounded since I was fourteen.
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Speaker 2
Really yeah.
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Speaker 3
It was like and it was like literally like over
00:45
spring break, like my voice sounded like this, and then
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like the over the course of spring break, it just
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like balls dropped and immediately like when it came back,
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you know, after a Wee Calls.
00:53
Speaker 2
Show, it dropped so far.
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Speaker 3
In the center of the earth, all the way.
01:03
Speaker 2
To the other side of the globe. You sounded like
01:06
you like you're in that band Yellow Timely reference.
01:10
Speaker 5
Oh yeah, okay, this is Joe. That was yeah, I
01:15
thought that was whoever did Joe? Here?
01:24
Speaker 2
Joe Joe?
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Speaker 5
Hello the Internet and welcome to season three fifty six,
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Episode three of Dear Dally's Guys.
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Speaker 6
Production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take
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a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and we are
01:47
America's only undecided podcast. We're all undecided voters on this
01:51
podcast New York.
01:53
Speaker 2
I don't know if I'm going to go for Trump.
01:55
Speaker 5
I don't know. I just need to know more about
01:58
his position.
01:58
Speaker 3
There needs to be another few debates for me to
02:00
like really understand both sides of the issues.
02:03
Speaker 2
I still don't know what the steaks aren't really clear.
02:05
Speaker 5
And if there is no more debates, I'm just gonna
02:08
have to vote for Trump. And I'm sorry, It's just
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that's it. Guys like you knows he hasn't won me over. Yeah, well,
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I just like the letter T.
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Speaker 2
Just I think his that's it. Yeah, that's.
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Speaker 5
It's Wednesday, September eighteenth, twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 2
Wow, what a day. It's Air Force Birthday, National HIV
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AIDS and Aging Awareness Day. That feels apt consider I
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just turned forty over the weekend and National Cheeseburger Day.
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Shout out the Noble Cheeseburger.
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Speaker 5
We love you, one of the greats. My name is
02:43
Jack O'Brien aka Rolling down the street, Crack the windows
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slashing in whale brain juice a whack, says my kids
02:53
in the backseat, and the brain warm. In my mind,
02:56
that is collaboration between how see on salad and you
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kurrent do that on television.
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Speaker 2
Yeah yeah, that's fucking good. That's a good one.
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Speaker 5
That's a bar took two minds. A few people know this,
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but the green slime on you carn't do that on
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television whale brain juice. A lot of people don't realize that. Yeah,
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do you ever eat the green brain sludge from lobster?
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You're getting there?
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Speaker 2
Nah? No, are you supposed to?
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Speaker 5
Some people do well when I grab I have Okay, yeah,
03:30
it's same, same premise.
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Speaker 2
Okay.
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Speaker 5
I lived with the Spanish family for a month in
03:35
high school and the dad ate the green brain juice
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and was like, it's so delicious, so I had to
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try it. It kind of tastes good. I don't like
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the idea of it, but it kind of tastes good.
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Speaker 2
If it was in a shot glass, you could probably
03:50
down it easier than being like, oh, you have to scoop.
03:52
Speaker 5
And scoop it out of a thing that still has
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eyeballs that are yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah judging. Anyways,
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I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co
04:02
host mister Miles Grass Miles Gray.
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Speaker 2
Since my body suddenly turned forty, I've been coughing like politicians.
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Speaker 7
I know.
04:14
Speaker 2
It's my mind off, perhaps some subway tune about my
04:17
buddies not now less poison.
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Speaker 5
I couldn't butterstand.
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Speaker 2
How to work it out. Shout out to Halsey and
04:26
Salad and everybody with their well wishes. Thank you. Yes,
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I have been coughing like a politician, but that's because
04:32
I have a child in daycare, and that means I
04:34
get to sample all of the illnesses that are happening
04:37
in my community, and you know, you just dabble them
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over days later. Time. Yeah, exactly, literally and literally a time.
04:43
Speaker 5
Wait, how do politicians cough? They like cough heart.
04:47
Speaker 2
I'm what are you referencing there, I'm just guessing because
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they're elderly.
04:52
Speaker 5
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, That's what I'm gonna go with you. Anyways, Miles,
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We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
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a brilliant TV writer, performed enrolled member of the calat
05:01
Indian tribe who's written on shows for Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, Dreamwork,
05:06
and the Netflix animated series Spirit Rangers. He's the creator
05:10
of the brilliant web series Gone Native. Please welcome back
05:13
to the show. The Hilarious, the Talented Joey.
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Speaker 3
Clear Joey Cleft aka my zight Gang. Can't sid enough
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of your cast, baby zight Gang. I don't know, I
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do know why I'm on the zaly Z Cast. Baby,
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Wow dep Okay, let me see Okay, let me see it,
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sang oh ship can't sign enough of your guys, Babe
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zight Gang. I do know, I do know. Wow, I'm on.
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Speaker 2
The daily z Cast.
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Speaker 1
Baby.
05:50
Speaker 3
Shout out to myself that it happens when I'm on
05:54
the show. Is that I realized, Oh, I've got to
05:56
come up with a parody song about my name.
05:58
Speaker 5
What can I sing?
05:59
Speaker 3
Are you why that's like in my vocal register?
06:01
Speaker 2
Okay, great, yep.
06:04
Speaker 3
You mentioned I did work in Nickelodeons, and I can
06:06
confirm that the green Slime from you Can't do That
06:07
on television is well rang juice, well, rang juice? Yeah, yeah, Okay,
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there's a big whale hanging from the ceiling and yeah, okay, yeah,
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it's it's been a live it's been alive for decades.
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Speaker 2
It's tortured, really fucked up Nickelodeon. Yeah, yeah, the producer
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is there. It's only half the story.
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Speaker 5
Have you ever gone with the cliff bar? I was,
06:33
I'm gonna need to see some I D because you
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are entering the cliff bar.
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Speaker 3
Uh. Oh, it's the cliff bar and not the bar
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edible bar like the place that you just I'm just
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I'm just.
06:43
Speaker 5
Riffing here, just connecting a c you know.
06:45
Speaker 6
Yeah.
06:46
Speaker 3
I feel like I feel like people have told me
06:48
that I should go by like DJ Cliffhanger if I
06:50
become a DJ, which hate you know.
06:53
Speaker 2
You know, uh, you know esteemed actor Montgomery Cliff.
06:56
Speaker 3
You know, Okay, So I hear that we're distantly related, Like, yeah.
07:01
Speaker 2
We're okay.
07:02
Speaker 3
So like I've heard from some family members that were
07:04
distant related. I've heard from other family members that were
07:07
not related at all. But he's buried somewhere in I
07:10
want to say, New York and only family members can
07:13
visit his grave. And part of me has been like
07:15
could I just go and like show my idea and
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like visit his grave because like I could be like, yeah,
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we're cousins or whatever.
07:21
Speaker 2
Yeah, do you have any I think he's from like
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Omahon originally or something like that.
07:25
Speaker 3
I don't know if I have Omaha family.
07:28
Speaker 2
He might be he might be fucking They might be
07:30
trying to hide the truth from you. Man. Yeah, you're right.
07:34
Speaker 3
Conspiracy we're going to talk about today.
07:36
Speaker 2
I wonder if you could pull up, just on the
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strength of your last name, be like, are you kidding me?
07:40
It's me Joey.
07:43
Speaker 3
You know Joey Cliffiff.
07:46
Speaker 2
You know that new sound you were looking for?
07:48
Speaker 3
Oh yeah, hey Monty, Yeah, hey Manty know that new
07:54
Cliff you've been looking for. You're looking at it.
07:59
Speaker 5
Well, it's great to have you back, Joey. We're going
08:00
to get to know you a little bit better.
08:02
Speaker 2
In a moment.
08:03
Speaker 5
First, a couple of the things we're talking about. We
08:07
are having a national moment of reckoning. It's time to
08:12
change the rhetoric, lower the temperature a little bit on
08:15
the rhetoric when it comes to describing Donald Trump as
08:20
dangerous in any way according to the right. And I
08:23
feel like the mainstream media usually falls for this. We'll see,
08:26
but usually they're like, we've got to do better, guys.
08:30
Speaker 2
It's our fault, you know what. I agree with the
08:33
right wing outrage mob. It is on us, specifically this podcast.
08:38
Speaker 5
Yeah, we are here to learn. We're here to listen,
08:43
and we're going to try and do better.
08:44
Speaker 2
We won't. Yeah, we can use new words, that's true,
08:46
we can use better words.
08:48
Speaker 5
But we are not. And because we're going to use
08:52
new words, we're not able to mention the fact that
08:56
they are saying the wildest, most violent shit possible.
09:01
Speaker 2
Actively.
09:02
Speaker 3
You know, they should be allowed to do that.
09:04
Speaker 5
And they should be because they're the ones who getting
09:07
shot at and we're not the ones getting shot at.
09:10
And if you want to be able to use violent words,
09:12
need to get shot at. Sorry, those are the rules.
09:15
Those are the rules of engagement.
09:17
Speaker 2
Those are the rules I just made up to benefit me.
09:22
Speaker 5
Nobody's even shooting them. It's like not fair. Anyways, we'll
09:28
talk about that, and then we'll talk about the other
09:31
thing that we're doing to make amends for the fact
09:35
that we did say Trump is a danger to democracy
09:38
and that led directly to that Elmer Fudds assassination attempt.
09:42
We are going to be investing in a new his
09:47
new cryptogrift even bigger this time. Yeah, it's it's huge
09:51
this time. Guys. You can tell he believes in it
09:54
because it's the one thing he's ever done that he
09:57
didn't put his name on.
10:00
Speaker 3
Yeah, does that mean he's not excited about us?
10:04
Speaker 5
Like I can't quite figure out like what it would
10:06
take for him to launch something that's not called like
10:09
Trump Trumpy Coin or whatever. This one's just called World
10:12
Liberty Financial.
10:14
Speaker 2
That's which makes it scarier.
10:16
Speaker 5
Oh yeah, yeah.
10:17
Speaker 3
If it was called like Trump Bucks or something like that,
10:19
I would at least get the grift, whereas this feels like, oh,
10:22
you're trying to be legit, which makes it seem even sketchier.
10:25
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah, he's trying to win the affections of his
10:28
son Baron, you know. Yeah.
10:29
Speaker 3
Yeah.
10:30
Speaker 5
It also has the name of a shell company, like
10:32
a name that seems designed to leave your brain the
10:36
second you hear it.
10:37
Speaker 2
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, World Liberty. It's like, yo, how
10:39
did who did your car loan? World Liberty Financial? I
10:42
think what was your APR in that? Like, I think
10:45
sixty four percent?
10:46
Speaker 5
Is that bad?
10:48
Speaker 2
Is that good? Yeah? I don't know numbers, it's less
10:53
than one hundred. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about all that
10:55
plenty more. But first, Joey, we do like to ask
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our guest, what is something from your search history that's
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revealing about who you are.
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Speaker 3
So one thing for my search history that's revealing about
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who I am is I googled how to buy food
11:09
from a ghost kitchen if any of you know what
11:12
a ghost kitchen is. If you go on like grub
11:14
Hub or something like that and you're trying to order food,
11:17
it's like a second restaurant that's not a real restaurant
11:21
that like is also making food out of the back
11:23
of a Chuck E Cheese or something like that. So like,
11:24
you're probably not gonna want to, you know, grub hubut
11:26
Chuck E Cheese pizza, but you might want to grub
11:28
hub like you know l pastor mister Pepperino's Pizzaia, and
11:33
it's just like Chuck E Cheese Pizza but with a
11:35
different name that makes it seem slightly fast. Year, So
11:42
mister Beast had a ghost kitchen while we were all
11:46
pandemic ing. Yeah, So I googled this while I was
11:49
standing in the lobby of an ihop that I thought
11:52
was a Philly Cheese steak restaurant, because I was like,
11:55
I was just I just really wanted to Philly Cheese
11:56
take a couple of days ago. So I just googled,
11:58
like you know Philly cheesecak restaurant near me. There was
12:00
an I Hoop a few blocks away. I walked over
12:03
there being like, okay, is this a Philly cheese steak
12:05
restaurant and they were like, no, you have to order
12:06
it online and from the app. So I had to
12:08
like stand outside and download an app for this Philly
12:11
cheese restaurant, Philly cheesecak restaurant for the I Hop to
12:14
like make the Philly cheese steak in the back of
12:16
the eye hop and then give it to me. It
12:19
was just truly one of those things.
12:20
Speaker 5
It's just like a Sioux chef's like side hustle or
12:24
something that there.
12:26
Speaker 3
Wasn't signage, so it does definitely feels like it's somebody's
12:29
side hustle. And I would say the quality of the
12:31
ie Hop Philly cheese steak, you know kind of man, yeah,
12:36
get hit.
12:36
Speaker 2
I look, I ate the whole thing, but it wasso
12:40
roll or not.
12:41
Speaker 3
I mean it was wrapped in a pancake.
12:43
Speaker 2
Yes, yeah, you gotta go to I mean, like, what's
12:48
the I like Booze Booze Philly is probably like one
12:51
of the better Philly cheese steaks in La.
12:53
Speaker 5
Alcohol like sometimes that just has that non sequitor and
12:59
we just have that's like a Philly cheese seak.
13:04
Speaker 3
You're sweating a lot right now.
13:06
Speaker 2
Cheese say Grease Goop is.
13:08
Speaker 5
A ghost kitchen, right, Goop kitchen or whatever the fuck?
13:12
Speaker 2
Like yeah, but I mean like there's a ton too
13:14
where like a bunch of restaurants will take over a
13:16
larger facility and they'll they'll serve like six different restaurants
13:20
out of one kitchen. Yeah, there's a spot on Sunset
13:22
that is like a yeah ghost kitchen that is just
13:25
like you see all these brands and it's all just.
13:27
Speaker 3
Coming out of the same place. What I think it's
13:29
like called me old fashioned, but it's like this was
13:31
definitely a situation where I was like, Okay, I just
13:33
want to like walk and get a Philly cheese steak
13:35
and leave. And it was just so like I totally
13:37
get it, you know, like having store friends expensive, but
13:39
it was just like going to an ie hop and
13:41
like not being able to find a Philly cheese steak
13:43
place was so disheartening and then finding out that was
13:46
the Philly cheese stick, yes, right, and I couldn't order
13:48
it from the eye hop. I had to like download
13:50
an app was like so annoying. Yeah, a lot of
13:54
adding insult to injury. Oh yeah, yeah, Like fine.
13:57
Speaker 2
Not only is this? Not only is this I hop
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your Philly cheese steak is gonna come from. We can't
14:02
even take your order like a normal.
14:06
Speaker 3
Not in Philly.
14:06
Speaker 5
It's and when you come in you say I would
14:11
like a seat at your International House of Pancakes please,
14:15
and we will know that that means.
14:17
Speaker 2
Philly to drop.
14:19
Speaker 5
Like how did you pick up your order? Was it
14:21
just there at the front, like at the hostess stand.
14:25
Speaker 3
Yeah, so it's like so I went to the front
14:26
and I was just like, is this like I think
14:28
it's called like, oh my cheese steak or something like
14:30
that's what the restaurants come And you said it with
14:33
the proper I did say. My voice did go up
14:36
when I said it. Yes, yeah, so you know, I
14:40
was like, is this is not my cheese steak? And
14:42
they were like yes, but like also no, And I
14:44
was like yeah, you give me and they were like
14:47
and they were like, you got to order it from
14:49
the app outside, okay. I like just sat down in
14:54
his eye off and waited for like ten minutes and
14:56
then they're like very discreetly gave me a Philly cheese steak.
14:59
They didn't like calm my name. It just like on
15:01
the side, which is the Cury go get out.
15:04
Speaker 2
Don't even I like. I like that. They're like, yeah,
15:06
you got to order it outside though, Yeah, all right.
15:11
Speaker 5
Jesus so judgy. What is What's something you think is underrated?
15:16
Speaker 3
Something I think is underrated? So this is gonna be
15:18
a hot take. I recently ate at waffle House for
15:21
the first time, and waffle house so underrated, Like probably
15:26
one of the best places I've ever eaten in my life, truely,
15:29
Like I mean, like, so I spent a lot of
15:32
time because it's there's not a waffle house in southern California.
15:34
I was in like Atlanta for a thing, and I
15:37
think I just got sort of the classic like pecan
15:39
waffle and then I like and then I got like
15:41
basically what all my friends suggested, which was like hash
15:43
browns with a bunch of different stuff on it, and
15:46
like there's a specific way that you order it. Order
15:48
a waffle house, you say, like my hash bounds like smothered, chunk, spicy,
15:52
smothered or whatever. I did not know that, so I
15:54
went to the front counter, and I was like, hello,
15:56
I would like hash browns with Jalapino's, a little bit
16:00
cheese and some ham please, you know.
16:02
Speaker 2
Yeah, kitchen, They're like, yo, the fens are here.
16:05
Speaker 3
Yeah. It was also it was perfect first waffle house
16:09
experience of like I walked in the door. Immediately the
16:12
person working the counter said like, chef ain't here, like
16:15
and it's like food won't be ready for thirty minutes,
16:17
so like sit down and wait. So we like sat down,
16:20
waited for thirty minutes, and then like the chef walked
16:23
in for sure, like with a sick in their mouth
16:25
that they like flicked into a trash can and immediately
16:27
started making the best waffles I've ever seen in my life.
16:31
Speaker 2
You know, it's that sausage gravy. Whenever I go.
16:34
Speaker 3
Sausage gravy, just syrup butter. It's like like it's truly
16:38
like it's just if you've never eaten a waffle house before,
16:41
like treat yourself. And it's also like ten bucks, it's
16:44
very cheap.
16:45
Speaker 5
So you went peppered, you went chunk.
16:48
Speaker 3
Yeah yeah, so I think I went pepper chunked, smothered.
16:52
Yeah that sounds very It was like halpino.
16:54
Speaker 5
Yeah, smothered is sauted onions. Covered is melted America onions
16:58
into Yeah, chunked, which is my favorite. It's just the best.
17:01
You don't get to say chunked in any other context.
17:05
Speaker 2
Unless I chunk my pants.
17:09
Speaker 5
Chunk some grilled hickory smoked hand. That's the context about
17:13
four hours later, And that's being generous. Dice some green
17:17
grilled tomatoes for juice. I like that they say that specifically,
17:21
it's grilled tomatoes for juice, peppered with the helpeo peppers,
17:25
capped shrooms. That's one of my favorites. And then topped
17:29
with Bird's chili. Goddamn hungry right now, country with sausage
17:34
gravy port to top. Could you imagine putting getting a
17:37
covered topped country?
17:39
Speaker 2
Hell?
17:39
Speaker 3
Yeah, man, I mean I think that, Like that's the
17:41
thing whenever I'm in a place with a waffle house now,
17:43
like my girlfriend and I make it a habit of
17:45
just or just like saying random words at the hashpin
17:47
order and be like, yeah.
17:48
Speaker 2
Let's get it, let's go something the old waffle house
17:52
roulette here.
17:53
Speaker 3
Yeah. Another thing that I think is underrated is voting.
17:57
Maybe that's the thing that people should do.
17:59
Speaker 5
You actually threatened the presence. Yeah, you're on a Yeah,
18:04
you're voting for who. You turned the temperature down with
18:08
that voting ship. You are threatening his political career and
18:12
by extension, his life. What is something you think is overrated?
18:17
Speaker 3
Something that I think is overrated? Actually, I'm gonna say
18:20
semi related to that. I was in Dallas a couple
18:22
of days ago, and I was at the place where
18:25
JFK got assassinated, like the depository or whatever.
18:30
Speaker 5
Love the smiling your voice.
18:31
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well it was like I was in
18:33
there for like for a separate trip, but I was like, oh, well,
18:35
I'm a Dallas you know, I'll see the sites and
18:38
it's it's just very it's very interesting how much it
18:42
has turned into like a tourist location. Like literally the place,
18:46
like the location that his car was where he was shot,
18:49
there's just an X spray painted on the ground, and
18:52
like for sure there were tourists, like and it's like
18:54
it's a street. It is a busy road that goes street. Yeah,
18:58
so there are people that were like running from the
19:00
street to jump onto the X where JFK got shot
19:03
so they could snap the selfie and then run back
19:06
to the sidewink before you get by a car.
19:09
Speaker 5
Oh shit, I wonder how many people have been hit
19:12
by cars there.
19:13
Speaker 3
I mean like in the twenty minutes I was there,
19:16
I saw like six close cars, so we're thinking at
19:19
least one. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
19:22
Speaker 4
Yeah.
19:22
Speaker 5
I remember going there when I was a kid, and
19:26
there was it was you know, there's the official museum
19:30
like up at the Book Depository.
19:32
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, that's about it.
19:33
Speaker 5
And then there's like an When I went there, there
19:35
was like an unofficial thing that kind of seemed like
19:37
it was like a news stand and it was like
19:40
people selling their own conspiracy theory like zines.
19:45
Speaker 3
Oh yeah, I sure that was still there.
19:47
Speaker 2
That was still there, still there, that's amazing. Wow.
19:49
Speaker 5
Yeah.
19:50
Speaker 3
And it is so interesting being there seeing how like
19:52
close together everything is, because I feel like you've never
19:55
been there. It's like you don't get a sense of like, oh,
19:57
Zach Rutter when he shot the footage was like maybe
20:00
like ten feet from like where JFK was. You know,
20:03
like the grassy knoll was like half a basketball, Like
20:05
it's like a basketball half court length away. You know, like, yeah,
20:08
you're just very it's like it's a very like contained area,
20:12
but it is just funny. It's like I feel like
20:14
people look at like the like the Titanic, how you
20:17
can get like giant inflatable slides of the Titanic now
20:20
that you can like set up its theme parks and stuff.
20:22
People are like, people are like, oh, that was like
20:24
a tragedy where thousands of people died. That's like weird
20:27
that that's like a thing kids play on now. And
20:29
it's like you go to the JFK assassination site and
20:31
you're like, oh, it's like ninety percent of the way
20:33
there right right.
20:35
Speaker 5
Yeah. I wonder how long it will be until there
20:38
are like nine to eleven themed rides like where it's
20:44
like the towers are falling like everybody, you know what
20:48
I mean, like everybody else? Can you get out of
20:52
the building like before I think in our like seventies, Yeah,
20:57
I think it'll be like when we're dead. Probably.
20:59
Speaker 3
It's like you go to like you go to like
21:01
Fort's Theater in Washington, d C. Where like Abraham Lincoln
21:03
got assassinated, and straight up across the street there's like
21:06
a pancake house themed after Abraham Lincoln. Yeah, it's just like, oh,
21:10
the tragedy has been raised from this now it's just
21:12
like I don't know, like a place to buy like
21:14
T shirts.
21:15
Speaker 2
Right, yeah, right, yeah. I think just like I remember
21:18
I said a tweet a few weeks ago or someone
21:20
was something like I think we're far enough away or
21:21
they'll be like nine to eleven sales, Like it's yeah,
21:24
I feel like that that's probably the first that's our
21:27
first step on our way to full on inflatable twin.
21:30
Speaker 5
Towers naturals sales, and then inflatable twin towers like bounce
21:35
houses that have like giant inflatable twin towers that you
21:38
can like jump off of.
21:39
Speaker 2
Yeah. The yeah, hey, I get on it.
21:43
Speaker 3
Yeah, we're just pitching ideas, you know, somebody wants to invest.
21:47
Speaker 2
Yeah yeah yeah.
21:49
Speaker 5
The how close everything is is truely is pretty staggering,
21:53
and it does drive home something about that assassination that
21:58
I think is relevant to the asassination attempts that we're
22:01
seeing today with Trump, where like he JFK they wanted
22:07
to put a top on the car because they're like,
22:09
you're going through an area that's gonna be like incredibly dangerous.
22:14
There was like somebody who took out an ad that
22:15
was like kill like basically saying you're an enemy to
22:18
the nation and like it would be treason as not
22:21
to kill you, essentially, and he was just like nah,
22:25
and basically they like.
22:28
Speaker 3
He want to live.
22:30
Speaker 5
Yeah. It was like the first stop on his re
22:32
election campaign, and so he was higher status than the
22:36
Secret Service in a way that I don't think is
22:39
usually true of presidents. Like he was both president and
22:43
like cool celebrity, and so they're just like, oh, damn JFK,
22:47
you're the man, you know whatever, Like they all like
22:50
went out. He said, he said, he's crazy.
22:55
Speaker 2
You know what he said. He said, like Maryland, you
22:57
know what that means? Topless baby.
23:00
Speaker 5
But it was so wild, like the shot was not
23:03
that difficult of a shot. Yeah, It's like it's like
23:06
you fucking there. Well, it's like you.
23:07
Speaker 3
Yeah, you go, you go to the Like this is
23:09
why like I'm a I don't know, like I'm kind
23:11
of a history buff. It's like I like kind of
23:13
whenever I travel, I like like check out places like this,
23:15
and it's like, yeah, you go there, and you really
23:17
do get a sense of like, yeah, that's not that
23:18
hard of a shot. It's like it's like people, look,
23:23
I played counter Strike, Like I don't know, it's just
23:25
it's yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, Like so it's it
23:29
just kind of feels like, oh yeah, it's like an
23:31
it's like six floors up. It's like a pretty much
23:33
straight shot. And it's like the way the road is
23:35
set up is it's like, oh, it's like it's like
23:37
a straight he's driving like straight from the background to
23:40
the foreground, if that makes sense. It's like it's like
23:42
he's driving in a lot. So it's like, I don't
23:44
know anybody that's a conspiracy theorist. It's like if you
23:46
go to that place, it's like, yeah, it's like probably
23:49
not a conspiracy there.
23:51
Speaker 5
Literally said that day, like, man, if someone wanted to
23:53
shoot us from a window, we'd be sitting ducks.
23:55
Speaker 2
Like JFK said that. Yeah, yeah, yeah his last thing,
24:00
last quote. Yeah.
24:00
Speaker 5
I think the same with like Trump, Like he likes
24:03
to golf and he's this larger than life personality who
24:06
just like always wants to be out and not you know,
24:10
I'm sure he's a very difficult person to like argue with.
24:13
You know.
24:14
Speaker 2
Yeah, I mean like so that basically sounds like it's
24:16
to the point where you have to put hands on
24:18
him if you want to stop him, Like just like
24:20
with January sixth, when he tried to hop over and
24:22
take the wheel of like the suburban. Oh right, Like, yo, bro,
24:27
we let you cook enough. Bro, Now I have told you.
24:30
I'm sorry, dude, I don't mean to put hands on you.
24:32
Speaker 5
But no, yeah, so I don't. Yeah. I just think
24:35
the Secret Service is both very limited compared to like
24:39
what we've seen in movies. They're not this like fully
24:42
buttoned up team of like you know, experts. And also
24:47
sometimes they just like will be persuaded by the thing
24:52
that the like big personality that they're supposed to be
24:54
guarding is like telling them, you know.
24:56
Speaker 3
Because ultimately it's like JFK and Trump and Pop like
24:59
they're the Secret Services boss. So it's like if it
25:02
is kind of a like if JFK says like, oh,
25:05
I want to have a convertible, they can't say like sorry, sir.
25:09
I mean they could say, hey, that's dangerous, but they
25:11
can't stop him.
25:12
Speaker 5
You know, Hey that's dangerous. Here's why. And he's just like, hey, honey,
25:16
I'm not sitting duck here. Anybody could shoot me from
25:19
the hotel windows. Yeah, moving on, Jesus, all right, let's
25:24
take a quick break and we'll come back and talk
25:27
about the new rules for talking about politics.
25:29
Speaker 4
We'll be right back, and we're back and new rules. Well, Jesus,
25:47
my favorite shelt Sorry, I don't mean to rip off
25:51
my favorite comedian, Bill Maher, but there's some new rules.
25:56
Speaker 2
Hell yeah, do.
25:57
Speaker 3
You want me to do a deep voice drop? And
25:58
you say that, you say new rules, and I say,
26:00
like new rules, the new rules.
26:06
Speaker 2
But yeah, I think rather than calling for like actual
26:08
reforms that would make the country safer and by extension,
26:12
donald Trump himself even safer, the right is now just using,
26:16
like take the thwarting of another would be assassin to
26:19
say that it's the Democrats are actually totally at fault here.
26:23
This is all on them. They keep saying Trump is
26:27
a danger and a threat to our democracy. That's just
26:32
how these things happen. You keep saying words like that,
26:35
and people will try and do bad things to Donald
26:37
Trump the campaign. The campaign even released like a long
26:41
list of receipts to prove it. They're like Kamala Harris quote,
26:45
Trump is a threat to our democracy and fundamental freedoms
26:48
Joe Biden, it's time to put Trump in a bull's eye.
26:51
I mean this from the bottom of my heart. Trump
26:53
is a threat to this nation. Then they have just
26:55
everyone Tim Walls, Gwen Walls, Nancy Pelosi. It goes on
27:00
and on and on, and everyone's just talking about like, yeah,
27:02
he's a destructive force to our democracy and you know,
27:05
like we cannot with this man should not be near
27:08
office at all.
27:09
Speaker 5
And so Gwen, they have Gwen Walls saying bye bye
27:12
Donald Trump. Yep, yeah, and by.
27:15
Speaker 2
The threat heard just didn't bleep that because I don't
27:19
want to show bye bye bye bye by Donald old
27:27
David bye Jesus by Yeah, bye bye bye bye.
27:31
Speaker 5
Now what that is? That is truly wild that they're
27:36
like And she said that immediately after firing the shot,
27:41
like that's the only.
27:42
Speaker 2
Way that that would be.
27:44
Speaker 3
She was holding an AK forty. She was saying yeah, yeah.
27:48
Speaker 2
Immediately before lit up a twelve pack of Trump beer cans. Right.
27:54
But then they have like other stuff and they put
27:56
like disgraced Harris Stafford, like they're putting modifiers in front
27:59
of people's names, just like in front of a quote.
28:02
But anyway, this is them proving look how many times
28:05
people accurately described how Donald Trump at a destructive force
28:09
to political.
28:09
Speaker 5
Norms in the United States, So they did slide one
28:12
in there. Representative Dan Goldman did say he is destructive
28:16
to our democracy and dot dot dot. I don't know
28:18
what they removed there. He has to be eliminated, which
28:22
does feel rhetorically like the sort of thing that you
28:25
would get called out on in the Democratic Party as
28:28
like being, I don't know, that seems over the line, man,
28:31
what are you the fucking terminator. We're just like trying
28:34
to win an election here, And they like I've seen
28:39
this quoted on social media, people being like he said
28:42
this right after the assassination attempts. In fact, he said
28:46
this back in twenty twenty three and immediately got in hot,
28:52
got in shit, and like had to apologize like right away.
28:56
It was like, oh, he's like, no, no, no, I misspoke.
28:59
I didn't mean that. But that is the bait and
29:01
switch they're doing, like.
29:02
Speaker 2
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, many things like this, And that's
29:05
also here from JD. Vance, who has a warning for
29:08
all of us about our words and the power of
29:10
our words.
29:11
Speaker 5
Is this the quote where he calls Trump America's Hitler.
29:15
Speaker 2
Oh no, no, that was earlier. That was not his own,
29:18
or that his own rhetoric that compares him to actual
29:22
despotic leaders. But anyway, not to say that Trump isn't.
29:25
But here's Senator JD.
29:27
Speaker 7
Vance and I know it's popular on a lot of
29:30
corners of the left.
29:31
Speaker 2
I think this sound. It just fucked me up so bad.
29:34
It was like a bunch of mosquitoes. It's just a
29:36
lot of humming. Sorry to my audio engineers out there.
29:39
Speaker 3
The main audience for JD. Vance speeches is swarms of bugs.
29:42
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like Jesus, It's like, what's going on, dude.
29:46
It's like I only see this when there's a dead
29:48
body around.
29:49
Speaker 5
They use that high pitched wine that like scares teenagers away.
29:54
There's yeah, don't there should be no genum with it here.
29:58
Speaker 2
No, No, okay, go on, JD that we have a we.
30:01
Speaker 7
Have a both sides problem. And I'm not gonna say
30:04
we're always perfect. I'm not gonna say that conservatives always
30:07
get things exactly right. But you know the big difference
30:10
between conservatives and liberals is that we have no one
30:14
has tried to kill Kamala Harris and.
30:16
Speaker 2
Was he going to say, we haven't tried to kill
30:19
we haven't tried to turn that bone on mister. Let's
30:22
see that Freudian slip one more time. Is that we
30:25
have no one has oh.
30:26
Speaker 3
Jesus, yeah, you're right.
30:27
Speaker 8
Yeah, a couple of months and two people now have
30:31
tried to kill Donald Trump in the last couple of months.
30:33
I'd say that's pretty strong evidence that the left needs
30:36
to tone down the rhetoric and needs to cut this
30:39
crap out.
30:40
Speaker 2
I think what's really funny too, is like just because
30:42
someone obviously this these people had a lot of issues,
30:47
but it just really was like, well, if they're against Trump,
30:49
then they're a liberal, Like.
30:51
Speaker 3
Oh, like both people like vote for Trump.
30:54
Speaker 2
Yes, yeah, and you know the latest guy like you know,
30:57
he gave donations to like Act Blue. So they're like, yeah,
30:59
there's just guys definitely like a Democrat or whatever. But
31:02
when you look at sort of like the totality of
31:04
what he has said and his actions are like, I
31:06
don't even know what bucket you put this guy in
31:09
at all.
31:09
Speaker 5
He was just all time dipshit. This guy Ryan whatever,
31:14
Ruth Ralph, Yeah, Ryan Ralph, worst assassin name of all time. Sorry,
31:19
I just it sucks. Ryan.
31:22
Speaker 3
You hear John Wilkes Booth, Yeah, exactly like John Wilkes
31:27
Booth like born for it.
31:29
Speaker 5
You know what a name for an assassin? Ryan Ralph,
31:33
Like you should be a D three quarterback or something
31:37
like yeah, yeah, but it's not too late. How many
31:41
years eligibility you got? Man, He's like militaristic in his
31:46
pro Ukrainian stance, like in the in Going There, Yeah,
31:51
Going He went there and was like, now, I recognize
31:54
you might not want me as a fighter because I
31:57
have no military expertise or experience. And they were like, yeah,
32:02
let me cut you off there, No, we don't want you.
32:04
Speaker 2
And I think they were even like talk tried to
32:08
talk to law enforcement because they were so put off
32:10
by this guy.
32:11
Speaker 5
Everyone that this guy deals with like just got the
32:15
wildest Like they were just like he's scary. What an
32:19
arresting officer who like arrested him for having a weapon
32:23
of mass destruction a gun that he had modified to
32:26
be a full automatic.
32:28
Speaker 3
Gun that he welded together to make five guys.
32:32
Speaker 5
Like Barrel winted in all directions made super gun, pulled
32:37
him over and he like tried to scramble to hide
32:40
it because he like had it in the front seat
32:42
with him for something with.
32:43
Speaker 2
A wig on it. Yeah, she's fine, She's just a
32:48
little tired.
32:49
Speaker 5
Yeah, but the arresting officer said she thought he would
32:54
be either dead or in prison by now. She added,
32:57
I had no clue that he had moved on and
32:59
was continued doing his escapades. And then somebody who worked
33:03
for him at his roofing business told The Independent that
33:06
her former boss had quote a local reputation for doing
33:10
stupid shit.
33:12
Speaker 3
I mean, I wanted to see a bullet list of
33:14
what that stupid shit is.
33:16
Speaker 5
I mean, like we know, on the international stage, like
33:19
once he contacted Kim Jong un and invited him to
33:23
go to Hawaii on a vacation and offered to be
33:26
his like liaison there with like no context.
33:30
Speaker 2
Dude, you are not Dennis Rodman. You are not Kim
33:33
Jong Un. A'm pulling up for you. Yes, only only
33:36
the worm.
33:36
Speaker 5
But yeah, I mean he's just the exact sort of
33:42
impressionable dummy that makes the ability to get a gun
33:46
at at any time in the United States so dangerous.
33:51
Speaker 3
Sure, but I also feel like this is I mean, like, yeah,
33:55
like the rhetoric's hot for sure for both sides, you
33:59
know you but it's like yeah, yeah, it's hot. But
34:01
it's like I feel like part of it is that
34:04
Trump is so like usually I feel like when presidents travel,
34:09
they're very careful, right, It's like there's a level of
34:12
like allowing secret Service, like knowing where you're going, allowing
34:14
for Secret Service to like, you know, scope applications, and
34:17
it's just a very It's like it's just like a
34:19
process for a president to visit a place. And I
34:21
feel like Trump is just a guy that kind of
34:23
does whatever he wants in such a way that it's like, yeah,
34:26
he probably just five minutes before golfing was like I
34:28
want a golf that that you know, that golf courus
34:30
and that's what happened. Yeah, And then it's like there
34:33
wasn't really time for the proper procedures of Secret Service
34:35
like checking the place.
34:36
Speaker 2
And even though I mean like they but they caught
34:38
him five hundred yards away from Trump. He wasn't even
34:41
in the line of sight, Like Trump wasn't even the
34:43
line of sight of this guy. And did the guy
34:45
fire shots? No, he didn't fire one. No, I think
34:47
secret Service fired at him. Yeah, but this guy.
34:50
Speaker 5
That's interesting because the way it's being reported, even in
34:53
the watch is that there were shots fired and like
34:58
the secret and yeah, it's exactly the same as the
35:01
fucking NYPD thing on the subway, where they're like there
35:06
was an officer involved like shooting, and two officers were
35:10
wounded by an armed fair jumper and it was like
35:13
a disturbed person who didn't pay their fare and had
35:17
a knife, and then the NYPD showed up and like
35:20
started shooting each other, and they're like they make it
35:23
sound like it was a person, an armed person shooting
35:26
on the subway, and only shooting on the subway was
35:29
the NYPD.
35:30
Speaker 2
I think I just by definition, Trump is a threat,
35:34
meaning a person that has the potential to cause harm.
35:38
Like that's just by the very definition of it. I
35:41
don't think again, taking lessons from this group on rhetoric
35:44
is like useful at all. And I don't think, yeah,
35:46
for me to run down like a lot of people
35:49
are obviously gonna run down all the time, Trump had
35:52
like truly violent and dehumanizing rhetoric that he uses. So
35:56
my response to this is like, Okay, yeah, like try
35:59
something like a new fucking angle, Like I think the
36:01
people on the right actually in visional world where like
36:04
those who don't conform to their definitions of American or
36:08
normal would have some kind of violent repercussions, so they
36:11
don't understand anything like nuance or whatever, because again, it's
36:15
not even about what they know or don't know. They
36:17
just found a moment where suddenly the scales are kind
36:20
of tipping in their favor because there's someone it was like,
36:23
aiming to try and do harm to Trump that they
36:25
can go, Okay, now we can use this to be like,
36:27
oh my god, you guys are so bad. You guys
36:28
are so bad. It's not about us anymore.
36:29
Speaker 3
Yeah, it feels like it's like such a political gotcha
36:32
kind of thing where it's just like it's like not productive,
36:35
you know. And it also does oline like how have
36:38
you have a threat? Like, you know, Trump is too
36:40
a lot of this stuff. So, you know, I think
36:42
that my two cents on this are gonna be summed
36:44
up in a little quote from Gwen Walls. But bye, Donald, Sorry,
36:50
I didn't mean to say hate speech like that.
36:52
Speaker 5
Sorry.
36:52
Speaker 3
Sorry, by at the voting booth, Bye bye.
36:55
Speaker 2
We're gonna tell him bye bye. Huh.
36:57
Speaker 5
Yeah, I do think it's probably worth acknowledging the violence
37:03
of his rhetoric in response to the assassination attempts and
37:07
the fact that he is making it like blaming it
37:11
on the Democrats, which takes it into this context of
37:15
like there's already essentially a civil war happening, and they're
37:18
like trying to kill me.
37:21
Speaker 2
It dot dot dot.
37:23
Speaker 5
It just feels like we've, like what led heard, a
37:26
new very dangerous situation because.
37:28
Speaker 2
Of that, rather than we don't have like firearms Lucy's
37:32
hanging all around the country for people.
37:34
Speaker 3
Yeah, it's like you look at there was that like
37:36
Elon Musk tweet like, I want to say a couple
37:38
of days ago, who like Elon Musk, clearly want of
37:40
Trump's advisors, you know, where he essentially said something the
37:43
effect of like people should start assassinate trying to assasinate
37:46
Kamala or something.
37:47
Speaker 5
Did not Joey, Joey not fair. He didn't say that.
37:52
He was like, gosh, nobody's even trying to assassinate them.
37:56
You're right, saying no, he didn't sing.
38:00
Speaker 3
You, yeah, you're right, I'm sorry. He was being blew
38:02
off the handle there. You should say bye bye to me.
38:05
Speaker 5
Joey bye bye on that way.
38:07
Speaker 2
Oh no, let's bring in our next guest since Joey. No, sorry,
38:13
we're going what we're saying about the Elon thing.
38:15
Speaker 3
Yeah, I don't know, it's just it's just a dangerous
38:18
as ship. Well, I mean, but they're just you know.
38:21
Speaker 2
If we're talking about words that end up in violent outcomes,
38:24
look at the people in Aurora, in Springfield, OHI you
38:27
know what I mean, Like there are people talking about
38:29
how like they're getting harassed, they're getting their shit vandalized
38:32
by people because people are so there's a poll. Again,
38:35
polls are like whatever, but a lot of the respond
38:38
the Republican respondents over fifty percent, were like, yeah, I
38:41
probably believe that these immigrants are eating pets, and you're
38:45
like right, and then that which said that they made
38:49
up Yeah, right exactly. But again it's like so just
38:53
like miss me with this, someone is gonna get hurt. Bullshit,
38:56
Like these things are already happening and we're already ignoring them, like,
39:00
you know, pretty consistently. So like think about even that
39:04
mass shooting that was in El Paso during the Trump administration, right,
39:07
and he was talking about we got an immigrant invasion
39:10
coming and all this stuff and all this like like
39:12
fear mongering that that killer was like echoing that immigrant
39:16
invasion rhetoric like in his own communication, So what like
39:20
what what are you actually talking about it? This is
39:23
just an embarrassingly weak attempt to appeal to people's decency
39:27
from a group of people that have never extended that
39:29
kind of grace to fucking anyone. So it reaks a desperation.
39:33
And when like the when the people whose whole brand
39:36
is we don't give a fuck if what we say
39:39
is true or not, and if it actually gets people
39:41
hurt to suddenly cry about it, like to cry about
39:44
out of control rhetoric, come on, like this is just
39:47
you tried this in July. Also, and people have the
39:51
same feeling where they're like, this is really rich coming
39:53
from you.
39:53
Speaker 3
Well yeah, and it's also it's just it's it's rough
39:56
to hear this kind of response from the same group
39:59
of people who saying stuff like, oh, school shootings are
40:01
just a fact of life, you know, you just got
40:02
used to them, Like it just feels like, oh, you're
40:05
not enraged about that, Like you're only enragement affects to you,
40:08
or when you feel like you can use it for
40:09
political when right.
40:11
Speaker 2
I mean, look, if the media wants to cave to
40:14
this fake outrage, I think we can come up with
40:16
a whole list of alternatives to threat or danger that
40:20
would also work, like legit criminal, sexual predator, has mushroom dick, racist,
40:28
creepiest father in America? Oh yes, yeah yeah, no no
40:33
cap no cap some some cap mostly cap. But you
40:37
know what I mean, Like, well, we'll see like where
40:40
this goes. I know there everyone's looking to maybe Thursday
40:44
when Kamala does a sit down with Oprah to see
40:48
how if there'll be any like direct response. But again,
40:51
like this just feels like when the way JD. Van's like,
40:54
we got to knock this stuff off, like quit quit
40:56
describing how bad he is for this country, because gonna
41:00
get someone hurt. Your basically saying like can you guys
41:01
like stop your like campaigning, stop did you stop talking?
41:07
Can you just let us tell people how much our
41:08
candidate sucks?
41:09
Speaker 5
Yeah, it's not just like it's not right, like why
41:12
you'll pass I Matt shooting is really unbelievable thing that happened,
41:17
and nobody really stopped to be like that he said
41:21
those things. This person listened and went and killed twenty
41:25
two people like it. It's amazing that it didn't cause
41:28
the mainstream media to even like really blink or like
41:32
change how they talked about this shit.
41:33
Speaker 2
There's just like, yeah, that's it. I'd say the media
41:36
does a really good job of ignoring terrible rhetoric from
41:38
every from every angle. So it's like, again, JD Vance,
41:42
I know things are hard right now, Dude, he just
41:44
did it. He's he's speaking right now as we record this.
41:48
He is saying already, I'm just let me just play
41:51
a couple just gems already that he's saying, he's doubling
41:54
down on Haitian migrants. Look at this guy, I think
41:57
he needs a geography lesson. Listen to where Haitian immigrants
42:01
come from.
42:01
Speaker 7
Because over the last few years, twenty thousand migrants, primarily
42:06
from Haitia have been dropped into Springfield.
42:09
Speaker 3
I'm sorry, hey, that was gonna be my joke answer
42:13
of where I thought he was going to say.
42:14
Speaker 2
There, wow, JD One more.
42:18
Speaker 7
Just for the kids and merrily from Haitia have been
42:20
dropped into Springfield or Highs.
42:22
Speaker 2
Okay, yeah, so shout out all my back in Haitia.
42:27
And then then he also said this, he's talking about
42:31
RFK Junior. And then just as another slip, just doesn't
42:33
know who he's talking about. Here's him talking about RFK Junior.
42:36
Speaker 7
I mean, we're very proud on our side to have
42:38
the support of Bobby Kennedy Junior.
42:39
Speaker 2
And he's a great guy.
42:40
Speaker 7
I've gotten known very well over the last few weeks.
42:48
But I think in many ways, this country never healed
42:52
from the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy Junior.
42:56
Speaker 2
All right, K no, that I don't even know about
43:01
that ship.
43:01
Speaker 5
Bro.
43:02
Speaker 2
Hey, we're the pre cogs from Minority Report at right now.
43:04
Speaker 3
Yeah, really fast news cycle that that wasn't covered.
43:07
Speaker 2
Holy shit. But anyway, so just very I.
43:11
Speaker 3
Think the Bear did it. I think it was the
43:12
Bear of the.
43:14
Speaker 5
Absolutely came back from the grave. All right, let's take
43:18
a quick break and we'll come back and talk about
43:20
an exciting investment opportunity. We'll be right back, and we're back.
43:35
Speaker 2
We're back.
43:36
Speaker 5
And just when you thought the Trump campaign couldn't get
43:40
any class, here, he has launched a new crypto project.
43:44
Yes he so. First he did a state of Crypto
43:48
address on Twitter. Oh it's so good, which you know,
43:51
we would have also accepted Tales from the Crypto or
43:54
the cryptos Burg address, but oh the State of the
43:57
Crypto address. The project is called World Liberty Financial, which
44:05
is for your lives, yes, truly run for your lives,
44:09
like designed not to be able to be remembered by
44:13
anybody who hears that word combination. It will be a
44:18
crypto banking platform where the general public will be encouraged
44:22
to borrow, lend, and invest in crypto.
44:24
Speaker 3
Well, World Liberty Financial. That feels like you we would
44:27
go into an AI platform and you just type like
44:30
real sounding bank, yeah, the fourth one, or.
44:36
Speaker 2
They're like what gives me the best like seo protection
44:40
and that is so nebulous that if you searched World
44:43
Liberty Financial and be like, you can't fucking nail it.
44:46
Speaker 5
Down, baby, sounds like a bank from like an eighties
44:50
action movie that has like the guitar music is just
44:56
like ripped from like you know, like the most generic
45:00
right right right, yeah, yeah exactly, just like anyways. When
45:05
asked the so, Trump promoted the endeavor on the far
45:08
right YouTube channel Real America's Voice Yeah, and it kind
45:12
of seemed like he has no clue what the fuck
45:15
crypto even is because he was asked the question why
45:19
is it so important for Americans to lead in cryptocurrency
45:22
adoption and innovation? And he responded with a lot of sentences. Yeah,
45:29
so we'll give him that. You know, he gets a
45:31
point for number of sentences and words that he responded with.
45:36
Speaker 2
And it's wild because the question is an absolute softball
45:41
that you can prepare for for the launching of your
45:44
grifty crypto trading space. And here, let's just hear because
45:48
hearing him, you're like, oh, this fucking guy. You can
45:51
almost kind of see on the reactions of the guy's
45:52
faces who know about crypto, they're like, what the fuck
45:55
is this?
45:56
Speaker 1
The question I have for you, following up on what
45:58
was asking earlier, is why it's so important for America
46:02
to lead in cryptocrency adoption and innovation?
46:05
Speaker 2
Oh, come on now, it's AI.
46:08
Speaker 5
It's so many other things, you know.
46:10
Speaker 2
AI speaking of an interesting future. It needs tremendous electricity
46:17
capability beyond.
46:19
Speaker 5
Anything I've ever heard. It never made sense to me,
46:21
but this is what it needs.
46:23
Speaker 2
If you take all of the electricity, doesn't even matter
46:26
because he just started talking about AI and energy. Immediately,
46:28
I'm saying, let him cook.
46:30
Speaker 5
Thank you. Now, Okay, that sounded stupid, but if you
46:34
played the won't.
46:35
Speaker 2
Won't oh oh under that answer, it would probably work
46:41
a lot better.
46:42
Speaker 5
He went on to say, they want to build them
46:44
for the AI and it's very important, but you need
46:47
tremendous electric and in this country because of our strong
46:50
environmental impact statement problems that we have, you know, China
46:54
doesn't have those problems.
46:55
Speaker 2
So just a.
46:56
Speaker 5
Coherent statement that let them know they are are in
47:00
good hands with his.
47:02
Speaker 2
Cryptom Sorry, sir, the question was is this your handwriting?
47:07
He said When he said, it's funny because the question
47:10
was why is it so important, he just goes, it's crypto,
47:12
it's a I.
47:14
Speaker 5
What wait No, that's.
47:16
Speaker 2
Actually the beginning of his response, why is this important?
47:20
Speaker 5
Ai? Ai?
47:23
Speaker 4
No?
47:23
Speaker 5
Almost speaking of AI.
47:25
Speaker 3
There was this really great, like I think Nate Silver
47:27
quote after the debate last week that was something of
47:31
the effect of, like the day after the debate, the
47:33
cost of the price of bitcoin went down, which tells
47:37
me that Trump probably lost the debate.
47:39
Speaker 2
Right yeah, just.
47:41
Speaker 3
Literally he's like said, he's like so in bed with
47:43
crypto right now that it's just like if he does
47:45
badly or says something dumb prices go down, right.
47:49
Speaker 2
Yeah, it sounds like they're very sensitive. A lot of
47:51
the people that he was talking to another crypto Trump
47:54
fans are like, oh shit, what is he doing right.
47:57
Speaker 3
Now with this whole thing. Yeah.
47:58
Speaker 5
So it's so sketchy that even Trump supporters and crypto
48:03
guys have called it a quote huge mistake. That is
48:06
quote of the goodwill that's been built with the industry
48:11
so far. Okay, okay, okay, again, amazing that he's not
48:14
putting his name on the product, the first product I've
48:16
ever heard of him being like in any way affiliated
48:19
with that.
48:19
Speaker 3
He didn't like this was a group effort, right, truly, truly,
48:23
it's a Trump Boys.
48:24
Speaker 2
It's the Trump Boys.
48:25
Speaker 5
Baby them Trump Boys there, godam Trump Boys, Donald Junior,
48:30
Eric Trump and introducing Baron Trump are all he they're
48:37
saying like he was the brain trust behind it or
48:40
it was like his idea. He's an actual teenager.
48:45
Speaker 2
Yeah. I think he's been watching too much like red
48:47
pill YouTube videos that he's like, Dad, we gotta do crypto,
48:51
please please. He's like you you spoke to me. He's like, no,
48:58
let's make a crypto a trading platform for us.
49:02
Speaker 5
This is a huge mistake. Nick Carter, a Trump supporter
49:05
and founding partner of the Crypto focus venture capital firm
49:09
Castle Island Ventures, told Politico it looks like Trump's inner
49:13
circle is just cashing in on his recent embrace of
49:16
crypto in a kind of naive way. Yeah.
49:20
Speaker 3
Great, Yeah, it turns out.
49:22
Speaker 5
And then so they've like been talking about this and
49:25
like kind of fumbling the rollout of it, and so
49:29
that has allowed scammers to kind of come in and
49:33
invade the platform before it's ready. And so it's just
49:37
rife with people scamming, Like Laura Trump and Tiffany Trump's
49:41
accounts have been targeted.
49:43
Speaker 2
Yeah, and people are just making just fakeass accounts on Telegram,
49:46
acting like this is the official World Liberty Financial Telegram
49:49
channel or whatever, and they're just gonna fun.
49:52
Speaker 5
Well, if you would just listen to the Trump brothers
49:54
who have warned their followers to quote avoid scams, I mean,
50:00
good advice in this large scam that we've.
50:05
Speaker 3
Like most scams, some scams are good.
50:07
Speaker 5
Not our scam.
50:08
Speaker 2
Don't avoid that one no, no, no embrace hours.
50:10
Speaker 3
The other's aid scams that don't give us money.
50:13
Speaker 5
Yeah, we we have two new characters. So they're working
50:17
with two guys named Chase Harrow or a hero h
50:21
R ro o. It's Jachery.
50:23
Speaker 2
I've seen his name spelled two ways because like this
50:25
guy related to Tyler, but yeah, I've seen it spelled
50:29
h e r O. And then some of the reporting
50:32
had put the double R because maybe they're like heat
50:34
fans and like they're just like heroes. Not a last name,
50:36
I know, Harrow, but anyway.
50:38
Speaker 5
And then Chase Hero comes alone.
50:42
Speaker 3
I just love that. Chase Arrow offers a onety nine
50:45
dollars a month get Rich Quick class. That's like a
50:47
good deal for a get rich Quick class.
50:49
Speaker 5
I mean, like the amount you're gonna be making after this.
50:53
Speaker 3
Dude, you're gonna be gonna get rich.
50:55
Speaker 5
You're gonna be driving home from the last class in Lambeau,
50:58
So why don't you stop naive? So he sold weed
51:03
weight loss colon cleanses, uh, the aforementioned get Rich Quick class,
51:08
and you can kind of see why Trump likes this guy.
51:13
He claims to be a billionaire with a track record
51:15
of crypto success while having been involved with just one
51:19
crypto project called do Finance, which at least that's memorable.
51:24
That attracted three point two million dollars in total activity
51:28
and was immediately like just like taken down by massive
51:31
scams that it got hacked.
51:33
Speaker 2
For about two million. Oh that project.
51:37
Speaker 3
Look that's still a one point two million dollar profit. Yeah, yeah,
51:41
million losses.
51:42
Speaker 5
I'm sure it was hacked by him, Like, yeah, yeah,
51:45
I don't know what happened. He's described himself as the
51:47
dirt bag of the Internet and claimed that regulators should
51:50
kick shit heads like me out. Great eighteen video about
51:57
crypto he bragged that you can literally sell shit in
52:01
a can, wrapped in piss covered in human skin for
52:05
a billion dollars if the story's right, because people will
52:08
buy it, which might be the best description of the
52:11
crypto industry I've ever heard. He's very honest. It's wild
52:15
that he is still involved in the crypto industry after
52:19
being on the record saying that I wonder if he
52:21
does this though too, to like avoid legal liability.
52:23
Speaker 2
How some scammers be Like, well, I said, I I
52:26
tell people I'm a sac I said, I said, I'm
52:29
the dirt bag of the Internet. I said regulators should
52:32
kick shit heads like me out. Yea, so defense.
52:38
Speaker 5
The last quote that I read about that you can
52:40
sell any bullshit shit in a cam wrapped in piss,
52:44
covered in why, covered in human skin?
52:46
Speaker 3
I guess I'm curious about how would it be because
52:48
you don't you can't wrap something in piss.
52:51
Speaker 5
Yeah, he's I don't think that it was that well
52:54
thought through and to wit. He did say that in
52:57
a video recorded as he drove in a rice. So right,
53:02
he said, I'm not I'm not going to question the
53:04
right and wrong on all that. The other guy, Frokman,
53:09
registered Quote Date Hotter Girls, LLC, which is a website
53:15
that's home to insightful articles such as fourteen reasons your
53:19
shirt is cock blocking you and also five hobbies that
53:23
get girls, including quote, music and sports. I just love that.
53:31
Speaker 3
This guy's like, if you were to come up with
53:33
just like the perfect like stereotype of like two thousands
53:37
hustle quote culture, bro, it's like this guy, you know,
53:41
little dipshit.
53:43
Speaker 2
What it's like?
53:43
Speaker 3
What like I guess it's like Trump is. If Trump
53:45
is the stereotype of sleazy nineteen eighties millionaire, this guy
53:50
is the stereotype of like two thousand and eight sleezy millionaire.
53:54
In a way that's like no kind of fun.
53:55
Speaker 5
What do you do?
53:56
Speaker 2
It's like I just like rather than like hawking my
53:58
wares to like desperate people are trying to get out
54:00
of poverty. I sell it to like men who have
54:03
been on a wayward journey of like self actualization seeking companionship,
54:07
and I just milk them for a lot. This one
54:09
article three tips to dating women in your social circle,
54:12
which is like a fucking red flag City are Right,
54:16
says casual is key. Being casual and nonchalant is always
54:19
important when trying to get hook up with girl. What
54:23
with when trying to get hooked up with girl? Yo,
54:27
AI wouldn't even do this shit. However, it is even
54:30
more important when dealing with girls in your social circles too.
54:33
Show don't tell when interacting with a woman you just
54:35
met at a bar type Wait, is this your social circle?
54:38
If it's someone you just met.
54:39
Speaker 3
Does this guy have friends? I'm not sure this guy's friends.
54:42
Speaker 5
Yeah, And then he has a number of interactions with
54:45
people who he impresses with some various matrices that are
54:51
have been deemed appealing, such as doing music and doing sports.
54:57
Speaker 3
Wow, I really want to google is fourteen reasons your
55:00
shirt is cock blocking you lists?
55:02
Speaker 2
Yeah, I mean it's like one, it's not Dan flashes too,
55:06
it's not Dan Flash. Three, it's not Look, it's just
55:08
it's not Dan Flashes.
55:10
Speaker 3
Okay, I'm going to look at what is number? What
55:12
is number six? I'm just gonna pick a random one.
55:14
Tucking in a T shirt. Never, under any circumstances tuck
55:18
your T shirt into your pants. Women do not want
55:23
to date a ninety sitcom star.
55:25
Speaker 2
I don't know. People love Jeremy Allen White wearing a
55:28
nice tucked in Calvin Klein T shirt right now, So
55:30
I don't.
55:31
Speaker 5
I don't know.
55:31
Speaker 2
I don't know where you got that.
55:32
Speaker 5
One's working out for him.
55:33
Speaker 3
Number twelve too busy, keep it simple?
55:36
Speaker 5
Ah, no you need this guy doesn't understand Dan Flashes clearly.
55:41
Speaker 3
Yeah yeah yeah.
55:42
Speaker 5
Number four graphics. Wait what T shirt? Do they want
55:47
you to wear? Just white T shirt?
55:49
Speaker 2
It says, okay if one one is too big, two
55:51
too small, three wrong color, four graphics, five wrong setting, six,
55:56
wrinkly seven tucking in a T shirt? Eight tucking in jeans?
56:00
Does that that feels completely redundant?
56:03
Speaker 5
No, there they were just like the number fourteen is
56:06
our target for the story.
56:08
Speaker 3
Number Number fourteen is just the word neck. Yeah you
56:14
got a neck, say goodbye to sex.
56:17
Speaker 2
Holy shit. Then nine is just stains. Yeah sures.
56:22
Speaker 5
Wait what I'm not supposed to wear a stained T shirt?
56:26
Speaker 2
Sweat, mud, or mustard. A stained shirt isn't gonna get
56:29
you laid. This tells her that your life's too chaotic
56:33
to even take care of your clothing. Not not an
56:35
attractive trait to display. Go buy a stain remover pin
56:39
or throw the shirt out.
56:41
Speaker 3
My favorite part of this article is if you scroll
56:43
on the bottom zero likes, zero comments.
56:46
Speaker 5
Yeah damn. It seems like these guys did their research.
56:50
These are the things that make my T shirt cock
56:54
block me.
56:55
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, Well Joey.
56:57
Speaker 5
Uh, it's been a pleasure having you on the day.
57:00
These geist as always. Where can people find you and
57:03
follow you? Yeah?
57:04
Speaker 3
Thanks so much for having me. This is so fun.
57:06
You'll find me on Twitter and I Believe Blue Sky
57:09
at Joey Tainment, and you'll find me on Instagram and
57:13
threads at Joey Cliff with five or six eyes. And
57:16
then something I wanted to talk about is kind of
57:18
part of that things to check out. I'm a member
57:20
of the Animation Guild. We're in the process of negotiating
57:22
our next contract with the studios. And you know, it's
57:25
like it's a fight. Like animation workers. We you know,
57:28
make a ton of people a ton of money, and
57:30
a lot of that doesn't really trickle down to us.
57:32
And you know, we're just fighting for a fair deal
57:34
that you know we deserve. So if you want to
57:36
know more information about the plight of animation workers, I
57:39
definitely suggest following the social media accounts Animation Workers Ignited
57:43
as well as the Animation Guild for you know, updates
57:46
and things you can do to kind of support our fight.
57:47
And definitely use the hashtag stand with animation and no
57:50
contract cartoons and you know, tweet about how much you
57:52
love cartoons, how much you feel like people like me
57:55
that make cartoons that you love deserve to make a
57:57
fair wage. Absolutely, so I can afford a T shirt
58:01
that doesn't cock block me.
58:05
Speaker 2
Haigarfield, but it will be our neck t shirts.
58:09
Speaker 5
Man, amazing. Is there a work of media that you've
58:13
been enjoying?
58:15
Speaker 3
Honestly, so work in media. I'm just gonna talk about
58:19
animation labor a bit more. There's this really great tweet
58:21
that I believe's tweeted by the Animation Guild showing like it.
58:25
Basically it says in twenty twenty four, there will be
58:27
four hundred and thirty movies released. Seven point four percent
58:30
of those movies are animated, but twenty five point one
58:32
percent of those But those seven point four percent of
58:36
movies make up twenty five point one percent of total
58:38
box office gross. So you know, I think that like
58:41
this is this is the kind of thing you can
58:42
see on animation workers ignited in the animation guild is
58:44
just like how how much money we make for these
58:47
studios and how little they pay us in return? So yep,
58:52
just a media media look at pro animation union labor stuff.
58:56
Speaker 5
Check that out.
58:56
Speaker 2
So there's like a word to describe like this will
58:59
like fucked up thing that keeps happening to people that
59:01
do jobs, Like, yeah, they're making a bunch of money
59:05
for like other people and they don't get nothing of it.
59:07
What's the state of like the negotiations? Like how how
59:10
fucked up are the studios.
59:11
Speaker 3
Being right now?
59:12
Speaker 5
Yeah?
59:12
Speaker 3
So like you know, I guess that I like I
59:15
can't go into like super specific details, but like give
59:18
names yeah, but okay, names and addresses of CEOs here, Yeah, well,
59:23
so one of the things that I think, and this
59:25
kind of has to do with what we were talking
59:26
about earlier about like AI. Jeff Katzenberg, who's the founder
59:30
of DreamWorks, said in an interview last year that he's
59:34
really excited about AI because with the use of AI,
59:38
animated films and TV shows will be ninety percent faster
59:42
and more efficient to make, which to me says that
59:45
you're going to erase ninety percent of jobs that people
59:48
in animation work, and like you're going to use our
59:50
art to train that AI to replace us. So like,
59:54
you know, something that we're really you know, I think
59:56
that our membership is very passionate about is like getting
59:58
strong AI protection because like you know, it's like if
1:00:02
the studios had their way one like AI is like
1:00:05
half cooked and not ready to like make good stuff.
1:00:08
So basically like the nightmare future that we could have
1:00:12
is like, you know, they just ask us to do
1:00:15
punch ups on like AI written scripts and pay us
1:00:17
a fraction of the time to do it. And the
1:00:19
ascripts are bad because a I wrote it, not a human,
1:00:22
you know. So it's like so yeah, it's it is
1:00:24
just it's it is a big fight that we're going
1:00:26
through right now, and this really feels like it's like
1:00:27
a generational like you know, a generational fight that's like
1:00:31
going to dictate the future of if animation is something
1:00:34
that you can do as a career. And you know,
1:00:37
but I do think that something that's really cool to
1:00:39
see is like we're so engaged as a membership right now.
1:00:41
We had like twenty five hundred people show up to
1:00:43
a parking lot in Burbank last month to like an
1:00:45
animation rally that we put on. Like there's a lot
1:00:48
of like I think that we've we've been like pro
1:00:50
animation worker hashtags have been like the number one hashtags
1:00:53
on Twitter multiple times over the past like you know,
1:00:56
a couple of months. So it's like I think we're
1:00:58
we're in it for the long haul, run it for
1:01:00
the fight. But you know, it's as all negotiations go,
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it's like it's yeah, you know, it's like it's just
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it's a push and pull, and but it does feel
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like if we don't get a good deal, we won't
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be able to do this as a career anymore. You know.
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Speaker 5
Yeah, right, so it will be bad for you the
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viewer if you're not an animator, but you just enjoy animation.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, it's like we'll want to watch like slop if
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you want to watch like slop made by AI, like
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by all means, But if you want like actual good
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shows that your fans have made by humans, like support
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us in our fight, you know right?
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Speaker 5
Yeah? Do it? Miles? Where can people find you as
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their work and media you've been enjoying? Find me at
1:01:37
Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram. Hell, even on
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PlayStation Network where I'm actually really liking Star Wars Outlaws
1:01:44
despite what all the haters say.
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Speaker 2
What else? Fine Jacket on the basketball podcast man Jack
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on Mans. Find me on the ninety Day Fiance podcast
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for twenty Day Fiance. Some tweets I like. First one
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is pretty wild. It's from at Abby o Selsey. It's
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a photo She's at an airport bar and it says
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I'm sitting next to a Lincoln impersonator at the bar.
1:02:07
He's watching MSNBC reporting on yesterday's assassination attempt. This is
1:02:12
easily the most surreal thing I've ever witnessed. This dude
1:02:15
is truly an Abraham Lincoln looking motherfucker.
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Speaker 5
Lincoln free on the right.
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Speaker 3
The look on his face is did I cause this?
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Speaker 5
Yeah?
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Speaker 2
He was like almost like, am I in danger? Like
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it's really I totally one. I agree, that is very surreal.
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And then the next one, Uh, it's a it's a
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quote tweet from the state of New Jersey. First person
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asked at sork Ince tweeted, I respect that Virginia is
1:02:43
for lovers, but we need a state for haters. And
1:02:45
then New Jersey said, you called out New Jersey. Uh tweet.
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Speaker 5
I've been enjoying disgraced congressman at M three three three
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three three G four n the sequel to again.
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Speaker 2
I guess ah.
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Speaker 5
When I watch Emily in Paris, I feel like a
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dog whose owner left the TV on for them while
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they go run errands. I think that is the experience.
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You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore o Brian.
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off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
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as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
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Miles what song do we think people might enjoy?
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Speaker 2
Really dope band, just really just real groovy, funky band,
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the South Hill Experiment with a track called Little Monk
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featuring one of my favorite up drummers, Kareem Riggins. Uh,
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this is just a nice head bopper, chin to chest
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neck bouncer, you know what I mean. So check this
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one out Little Monk Featuringam Riggins by the South Hill Experiment.
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Speaker 5
All right, we will link off to that in the
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afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will
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talk to you all then.
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Speaker 2
Bye bye bye