00:02
Speaker 1
Scale of one attendant. Andrew, what would you rate your
00:05
like a waffle cone making ability? Were you like a savante?
00:10
Speaker 2
It's really easy. It's really really easy because because the
00:14
two things. I mean they basically there's like a fucking
00:17
little Christmas tree thing that you wrap the the you
00:21
take the waffle off, and then you just kind of
00:23
roll it over over this cone and put in a
00:26
little thing to dry and presumably harden.
00:31
Speaker 3
It's pretty easy.
00:32
Speaker 4
It's for any the dumbestis would not do very well with.
00:38
Speaker 2
Well, all you gotta do is kind of like press yeah.
00:42
Speaker 4
You sound to me, you sound like Lebron James being
00:45
like all you gotta do is just put the ball
00:48
Speaker 3
Well stuff.
00:52
Speaker 2
I just think I think it's pretty I mean, the
00:55
main thing that was good about being on the waffle
00:57
cone station is you just eat mad broken pieces of
01:03
you just kind of are a lot of.
01:08
Speaker 3
Looking good. It's like, yeah, I love that ship. Okay, Jack,
01:12
I do here, I do hear?
01:16
Speaker 2
Have you changed anything recently?
01:18
Speaker 3
I mean I changed my whole desk.
01:20
Speaker 4
By the way, Andrew, remember last time you're like you
01:23
should get a walking Did you get a walking? I
01:26
got a walking desk. Yeah, that's great, Andrew, you have
01:29
a little you just think treadmill that's been running this
01:34
whole time. Now, I'm just sure I have a treadmill,
01:39
Speaker 2
Have it. But there's power is on electronics near your Yeah,
01:44
that's what I'm thinking.
01:45
Speaker 4
It's recorded yesterday with let me see if turning the
01:49
power on the treadmill off.
01:53
Speaker 2
It I mean, could it just be the the you know,
01:57
incessant were of you getting yoked for twenty two twenty five?
02:01
Speaker 3
Yep, there was.
02:02
Speaker 4
It was even though the treadmill was like off, the
02:06
power supply was on. And apparently the power supply is
02:08
such that it creates a buzz in the background.
02:12
Speaker 3
So there we go. Now I know shit.
02:14
Speaker 2
Oh yeah, Joey. This this came out because last time
02:17
I was on, Jack took a break during the commercial
02:20
break to like running on the lap around his desk,
02:22
Speaker 4
Was like, wait, fucking rules, Yeah, just like I because
02:29
I like that day had like two hours of meetings
02:31
right before this, so I was just like sitting here
02:34
and like my legs were like falling asleep.
02:38
Speaker 1
It just got you so amped you had to get
02:40
Speaker 2
God was very inspiring. I was like, I should do that.
02:44
I won't, but I should do that. Let's go. Yeah yeah,
02:49
yeah it was like cold, but it's in the most
02:56
Speaker 3
But yeah, it's working out.
02:58
Speaker 3
I walked seven miles yesterday while working fu.
03:01
Speaker 2
Whoa, that's amazing.
03:04
Speaker 4
I think I'm just like excited to have it, you
03:07
know what I mean, So like I'm doing crazy shit, but.
03:10
Speaker 2
I mean that sounds amazing.
03:12
Speaker 1
I feel like that's something I'm getting older though, is
03:14
I'm real opinionated and passionate about getting steps in, and
03:16
it's like if I don't, I'm just like fuck.
03:19
Speaker 3
You know what's really annoying?
03:20
Speaker 4
Though, I have a like the rr ring thing that's
03:24
my like step counter fitness tracker device, and uh.
03:30
Speaker 3
It only counts the steps you take with your fingers.
03:33
It only counts the steps you take with your fingers. Literally,
03:36
like if you're not, so.
03:37
Speaker 4
I'm like typing and walking with my legs and so
03:41
it's like you're not doing shit, man, You're just at
03:44
Speaker 3
It doesn't it doesn't recognize my steps, which are Yeah.
03:49
I was like, fuck, I'm gonna have to pay somebody
03:51
to walk around with this to get your little tech
03:54
deck out, Jack, I know. Oh my god, I have
03:58
the sickest skate park my desk.
04:03
Speaker 1
That's the worries. You've just been grinding a rail with
04:07
Speaker 3
It's like, wait, what is Justin's like, what is that
04:09
sound in the back? Clickity clack.
04:14
Speaker 2
Don't worry about a narc skating Send my fucking my
04:25
Speaker 3
It's my favorite thing.
04:29
Speaker 4
Get like a real skater attitude from my tech decks. Yeah, whatever,
04:36
just try to stop me.
04:38
Speaker 2
Cops. Oh man, good job everyone, good job.
04:44
Speaker 3
I think we have a cold open. That opening was
04:47
Speaker 2
Boy, that was cold.
04:55
Speaker 4
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three seventy, episode
05:01
Speaker 3
Ice Stay production of My Heart Radio.
05:04
Speaker 4
This is the podcast, Yes, this is the podcast where
05:07
we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. We
05:10
now have a YouTube channel. We drop an episode a
05:14
week on their YouTube, slash at Daily's I Guess pot.
05:19
You can go check us out on YouTube. Usually it's
05:21
the Tuesday, so usually it's this episode. But we've been
05:25
having a bit of technical difficulties. Los Angeles is built
05:29
so shoddily that when it gets windy here, everybody's power
05:34
goes out, and so we're we're gonna we're gonna do
05:38
the video episode tomorrow when hopefully the wind stops blowing.
05:44
It is Wednesday, January eighth, twenty twenty four. My name's
05:50
Jack O'Brien aka mister Kintner. That's courtesy of Lacaroni Lcaroni.
05:57
I was talking about my older girl friend in middle
06:02
school who I was nervous because she had a long
06:07
experience Frenching and I did not have a lot of experience,
06:12
and so I got really nervous. And then because I
06:16
was being weird and nervous, I made up that like
06:19
things were really bad at home when I was talking
06:22
to her, and then she dumped me because I was
06:24
a bummer. But anyways, Lockeroni in the discord said Jack's
06:29
older girlfriend was Missus Kintner from Jaws. Shout out to Lacaroni,
06:36
and I'm thrilled to be joined in our miles seat
06:41
by a hilarious and brilliant producer and TV writer you
06:45
know him from the yos. This racist podcast It's Andrew Too,
06:52
Speaker 5
To podcast with such poor takes. You rest yourself is
07:00
such time as hot chicks can be produced.
07:06
Speaker 2
You will obey these my cows.
07:11
Speaker 3
Wow, so tired.
07:16
Speaker 2
I don't know how he did that. Did you watch Lost?
07:26
Speaker 2
I watched it a wee bit two stoned, But in
07:33
Speaker 4
It feels makes you feel like you are too high
07:36
as somebody who doesn't get high anymore, I still felt
07:40
like I was like, oh, I feel very.
07:42
Speaker 3
Uncomfortable in my own skin.
07:43
Speaker 2
Yeah, and then because for some reason, I mean, look,
07:48
I guess it's the best way to do this, but
07:50
you know, if you're in the writer's guild, they send
07:51
out screeners and things, but nowadays they send out screener links,
07:56
which is fine. But there were multiple points I forgot
08:00
or didn't understand, so I went back and rewatched it
08:03
parts of it in the parking lot on my phone. Uh,
08:12
and I still didn't get it that much. But uh,
08:22
Speaker 4
That was a really good Warlock, I gotta say, has
08:26
immediately entered the doing it.
08:32
Speaker 2
It's it's it feels like my my diaphragm has sucked
08:37
my lungs out of where there used to be. It's
08:40
not it's not pleasant and feels like you're.
08:42
Speaker 4
Like speaking with a mouth that's inside your body somehow.
08:48
Speaker 2
If you're from the video take, but I'm pointing on
08:52
my body to where it feels like I'm talking and
08:58
Speaker 4
Like I did enjoy it though, like I mean enjoy like.
09:03
I don't think it's a perfect movie. I think it's
09:05
a movie that I'm glad was made and is.
09:09
Speaker 3
Interesting.
09:10
Speaker 4
Time at the movie is for sure, which I will say.
09:15
I think we talked about this off Mike, But have
09:17
you guys seen Amelia Perez.
09:19
Speaker 3
Here we'll introduce our.
09:27
Speaker 4
Yeah, it's thrilled to be joined in our third seat
09:29
by a brilliant TV writer, performer, and enrolled member of
09:33
the caw It's Indian tribe who's written on shows for Nickelodeon,
09:36
Cartoon Network, DreamWorks, and the Netflix animated series Spirit Rangers.
09:41
He's the creator of the brilliant web series Gone Native.
09:44
Please welcome back to the show, The Hilarious, the Talented
09:49
Speaker 1
Yeah, that's right, it's me that that that that Joey Cliff,
09:54
Joey Cliff. That that that that Joey Cliff, Joey Cliff,
09:58
Joey Cliff. That's right. That's the final Fantasy seven. When
10:01
do we get an angel fee for Written by every time.
10:06
Speaker 3
I know, I recognize that.
10:07
Speaker 1
Yeah, because you aren't at dor.
10:13
Speaker 3
Well, Joey, it's great to have you.
10:15
Speaker 4
Uh, Andrew, thank you for being here, not with Miles,
10:21
Miles and uh super producer justin both of their internet
10:25
and power was knocked out by the windstorm.
10:29
Speaker 2
Uh feels they blew away to the land of Oz.
10:33
Speaker 3
Yeah, this is a very movie Central.
10:37
Speaker 2
Haven't seen Wicked. I kind of realize I haven't. We
10:42
Speaker 3
Let's see, let's that's the rest of this episode of Together.
10:47
Speaker 2
We could throw it on and in a small window,
10:51
make that the main window. I did not realize that
10:54
they are Apparently they're in the city of Shizz for.
10:58
Speaker 3
Real or like the school.
11:00
Speaker 2
The school they go to is called shiz University, which
11:03
is the craziest ass, Like, I know, it's like you.
11:07
Speaker 4
Don't grow up in the nineties. Do they not know
11:10
that like shiz is I mean no, yeah, yes. A producer,
11:15
Victor did see Wicked and said it was throwing him
11:17
off the whole time, like.
11:20
Speaker 3
Yeah, dude, you can't come in here like that. This
11:23
Speaker 1
Wait what that feels like a name that you write
11:26
down like first draft and then you're like you change
11:28
this at some point and then nobody asks you to
11:31
change it, and you're like, I guess it's shizz.
11:33
Speaker 4
I guess it's the shizz shiz for pete for like
11:37
that's what people used to substitute for shit. I think, yeah,
11:42
in the niz the shizz. Yeah, that's that is like
11:46
the most dated term. Like it's so dated that, like
11:49
I hadn't even thought about it since eighth grade.
11:52
Speaker 2
I'm curious whether it's from the original like book somewhere
11:59
in there there's just another city. There's the Emerald City
12:02
and there's Shizz, and those are the two cities we known.
12:05
Speaker 4
Was referencing the original Wizard of Oz. Oh wow wow,
12:11
because yeah, that's right. That was a song on Doggie Style,
12:17
Speaker 1
Yeah, they knew that if they changed it, wicked TikTok
12:22
Speaker 3
That's true.
12:23
Speaker 2
But it's so weird just even learning about it. It's
12:26
been the fact that I can't get out of my
12:28
head about that movie.
12:29
Speaker 4
Was we get novel, then theatrical experience then film or
12:35
just close the Wikipedia Pageeah, that's all right, you know what,
12:38
we don't need to answer that question.
12:42
Speaker 1
According to Victor correct, so cool answered for us.
12:45
Speaker 3
Great so novel play.
12:48
Speaker 2
Yeah that makes sense.
12:51
Speaker 4
True triple threat. Who's ever heard of such a thing?
12:53
Jurassic Park no hit Broadway musical that I'm aware of.
12:59
So uh in your face Jurassic Park.
13:01
Speaker 2
Yeah, okay, but real quick, just just a quick rout
13:03
of pitches. If we're doing a Jurassic Park musical, I'm
13:05
thinking from the Raptors perspective.
13:08
Speaker 1
Oh yes, you know, so what is the Raptors? I
13:14
Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah, ultimately the hero of the film, not necessarily
13:19
Speaker 2
But I would like to eat that guy.
13:23
Speaker 3
Amelia Perez haven't seen it.
13:27
Speaker 2
I have not seen it. I've I've watched the discourse,
13:31
wing and wang around it. Indeed, I feel like I
13:35
need to give it one more beat before.
13:38
Speaker 4
It is like it immediately, Like I just I just
13:41
saw that it got nominated for the most Awards and
13:44
it was on Netflix, and I was like, well, I'm
13:46
putting together this adjustable height desk, so I'll put I'll
13:51
put it on and uh it like really has I
13:57
would be surprised if it doesn't, like all so win
14:00
a lot of awards with the oscars.
14:02
Speaker 3
It has like real crash vibes.
14:05
Speaker 4
It's like a big audacious like uh, but there's also
14:10
parts of it that I really enjoy, Like, like I
14:13
some of the audacity I actually enjoy.
14:17
Speaker 4
But it's it's a mess, and it has like some
14:20
of the most embarrassing moments of a movie that like
14:23
I've seen, but I highly recommend, Like I mean, it's
14:27
it's a roller coaster. I highly recommend people watch it.
14:30
Not because it's like knows what it's doing all the time,
14:34
but it's a it's a blast. It's a fucking mess,
14:38
but holy shit, I mean, sometimes.
14:40
Speaker 1
It's fun to just watch a movie that just goes
14:42
for it and swings to the fences, and.
14:43
Speaker 3
It's like, is it does it hit?
14:45
Speaker 1
Maybe it is.
14:46
Speaker 4
Sometimes it seems like it has hit. But anyways, Joey,
14:54
it's great to have you, is what I was saying.
14:57
We're gonna get to know you a little bit better.
14:59
And the Amelia Perez of this podcast indobtably before we
15:05
get to know you a little bit better by asking
15:08
you you're overrated, underrated?
15:10
Speaker 3
What you've been searching.
15:11
Speaker 4
Some of the stories we'll be talking about we never
15:14
really got to talk about that Wall Street Journal, and
15:17
there's also a New York Times story about Biden being
15:21
like so old old, which I know we're not breaking news,
15:25
but it was pretty wild to see like what the
15:30
people around him in his administration were having to do
15:34
to like cover up his oldness from day one, so
15:39
that that happened like that.
15:40
Speaker 3
This Wall Street Journal article dropped I think the.
15:44
Speaker 4
Last day, the day after we recorded our last episode,
15:48
So I just wanted to take a quick moment to
15:50
look at that because I also think it somewhat ties
15:53
into what we're about to live through in the Trump
15:56
administration since he I don't know if you guys are
15:59
aware of this all also really.
16:00
Speaker 3
Fucking old, wait really.
16:04
Speaker 4
And like the easiest to manipulate human being in the world.
16:08
Speaker 3
So we'll talk about that.
16:10
Speaker 4
We always like to have a segment where we check
16:13
in on Sean Hannity's class, class consciousness, and so he
16:18
had some pretty interesting things to say about how we
16:21
need to leave the leave the rich alone because they're
16:28
they're the ones who are gonna make you rich.
16:30
Speaker 3
With their big tips trickling down.
16:35
Speaker 4
The inverse of reality, like the stingiest people, the stingiest
16:41
human beings that I've ever encountered in my time as
16:45
a service worker. So we'll we'll talk about that, and
16:48
of course we'll talk about sex spots.
16:51
Speaker 3
We got to get to the sex spots. Yeah, oh yeah, around.
16:56
Speaker 2
It's just of all the things that Silicon val is
17:00
inevidently you're going to like roll out from for it's
17:03
actually ready to be on the market, sex spots is
17:06
the number one on my list. Can't Yeah, it's for
17:12
Speaker 1
It will rip your dick off.
17:15
Speaker 4
And speaking of award winning movies, Madam Web is not
17:20
going to be nominated.
17:23
Speaker 1
Loved Madam Web, Madam So Fun.
17:26
Speaker 4
It unfortunately failed to qualify for the inclusion and representation
17:32
standards put in place that are like I think a
17:39
lot of films qualify for by accident, but they managed
17:43
to not qualify for any of the requirements. Uh So
17:46
we'll talk about that all of that plenty more. But first, Joey,
17:49
we do like to ask our guest, what is something
17:52
from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
17:56
Speaker 1
Okay, so here are the most the three most recent
17:59
things that have Google. One is our fifty mile per
18:02
hour winds deadly, second our one hundred mile per hour
18:06
winds Deadly. The answer that for fifty is not really.
18:09
The answer for one hundred is yes.
18:11
Speaker 1
And the third thing that I've searched is sad pictures
18:14
of Garfield, because you know, I find a post about Garfield,
18:18
and sometimes you just got to find a sad picture
18:22
Speaker 2
That genuinely does tell me a lot about how your
18:24
mind works, because I'm going to let you know right now.
18:26
My third search would have been to seventy five mile hour.
18:31
Speaker 1
No, I mean I got my answer. I was like, oh,
18:33
one hundred mile hour winds are deadly? Are we seeing
18:35
one hundred right now? I think it's I think it's
18:37
supposed to be fifty to one hundred.
18:40
Speaker 4
Potentially it's a big range. Los Angeles Weather Service. That's
18:44
a Jesus, what is happening. I didn't even realize this
18:50
Speaker 1
I mean, we are recording this while in a tornado
18:52
right now? For sure?
18:53
Speaker 4
Yeah, just in the bar texts going by our windows.
18:58
Speaker 2
This is the twister from twisters sleeping off the Golden glows,
19:02
right right, folks?
19:04
Speaker 3
Am I right?
19:05
Speaker 4
I didn't watch all of the Golden Globes, so I
19:07
don't think I got that reference.
19:08
Speaker 2
But I didn't. Oh, I didn't watch any of it,
19:10
nor did I watch Twisters. I just assume Twister.
19:14
Speaker 1
Is just assume that one best actor. Yeah right, I
19:18
mean maybe I also didn't watch the Twister. Twister, the Twister,
19:23
Speaker 3
It was not.
19:23
Speaker 4
It was nominated for the best uh Best Cinematic Theatrical
19:28
Experience or whatever.
19:32
Speaker 3
Was that. I think Wicked ended up winning.
19:34
Speaker 1
Thats so there was more than one Twister in this movie,
19:37
so some of Yeah, the main Twisters, the main Twister
19:40
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't watch it a weird twister, No,
19:45
Speaker 1
I genuinely hear that. It's very fun. There's a lot
19:48
Speaker 4
People keep getting sucked off into the sky as much.
19:51
Just like to point out out loud while I was
19:54
watching it to her majesty, sad pictures of Garfield. Maybe
20:00
Garfield said, because also ineligible for the Oscars. According to
20:05
this article, not enough diversity in the Garfield movie.
20:08
Speaker 1
He should look that, I mean, look, best animated, Best
20:11
animated feature at least should have been like something that
20:14
was nominated for it was great.
20:15
Speaker 4
Oh yeah, are you a huge You're that's right, you're
20:18
Speaker 2
Joys Joey's doctor Garfield gar Garfield.
20:21
Speaker 3
Yeah, exact Garfield.
20:23
Speaker 1
Yeah, I'm genuinely wearing like a Garfield cardigan right now.
20:29
Speaker 2
Yeah, Yo, listeners, you're getting fucked by not having this.
20:34
Speaker 4
By not having a video that is a beautiful cardigan
20:37
with a big old Garfield on one of the sides.
20:41
What is something, Joey that you think is underrated?
20:44
Speaker 1
Something that I think is underrated? So I'm going to
20:47
say professional wrestling audiences. So I'm a really big fan
20:51
of professional wrestling. I've talked about this on the show
20:53
previously and earlier. This week, they had the first Monday
20:57
Night Raw on Netflix, and as part of that, they
21:00
had Whole Cogan come out to promote his weird anti
21:03
woke beer brand, Real American Beer, and this was in
21:06
Los Angeles, and the live professional wrestling audience booed the
21:09
fuck out of him. It's like, it's like to the
21:12
point where, like Hull Cogan said, you know, seven year
21:14
old old Cogan, one of the best star, one of
21:15
the biggest stars in wrestling, was visibly rattled by how
21:19
heavily this audience was booing this old, weird racist Wow.
21:24
It's just like it's just this beautiful thing about professional
21:26
wrestling in that like because it's you know, it's like
21:30
like a predetermined sport where you know the winners and losers.
21:33
But the one thing they can't predetermine is how the
21:35
audience is going to react to things. So this is
21:37
something where they clearly brought him out with the level
21:39
of pomp and circumstance, assuming the audience was going to
21:41
be like, yeah, the whole Camania guy. But it's just
21:44
like decades of that guy being like a shit and
21:47
like an open racist and also all the mega stuff,
21:50
the audience just let him have of it and it's incredible.
21:54
Speaker 3
Like rip his shirt off, yeah stuff.
21:59
Speaker 1
There was also a very funny bit, and the heatless
22:01
of his thing is that he tears his shirt off.
22:02
So he tore it like half off and then it
22:05
like fell off camera, and then he like tried to
22:08
do his promo very quickly because he was probably getting
22:10
really rattled by the booze, and then he like very
22:13
sadly walked away and the camera stayed on him as
22:15
they revealed that his shirt that he tore off was
22:17
now around his ankles, so he had to kind of
22:20
Speaker 4
Like a piece of toilet paper. He's a toilet paper
22:23
and met dragging behind.
22:25
Speaker 1
Wow. It's and it is just like it is something
22:27
that I feel like there's a stereotype of professional wrestling
22:29
audiences being you know, like kind of a certain way,
22:33
but like, really professional wrestling fans are like very progressive nowadays.
22:36
The average professional wrestling fan is like probably more on them,
22:40
you know, woke side of the spectrum or whatever.
22:41
Speaker 4
And it's yeah, see, yeah, I am definitely suffer from
22:47
biases around professional wrestling fans, where like, anytime I find
22:50
out one of my friends or like, you know, someone
22:53
I like is a big professional wrestling fan, like really, wow,
22:57
really and that's true, and that's right on my part.
23:00
Speaker 2
Yeah, I just judge them. I'm going down. No, well
23:10
that the crazy thing is my entire basis for looking
23:13
down on professional wrestling is how much I love actual
23:16
combat sports, which is comprised of audiences of the literal
23:19
worst people on earth.
23:22
Speaker 1
Yeah yeah, just.
23:25
Speaker 2
Like what who am I to look down on anyone?
23:30
Speaker 3
Are you m M A or boxing? Yeah?
23:34
Speaker 2
I really can't. No, I can't really watch boxing either.
23:37
Speaker 2
It's MMA via Nazi slippery slope, Brazilian jiu jitsu is.
23:46
Speaker 1
Able Nazi slippery slope Bragilion's use it too? Is that? Like,
23:50
what are the rules of that?
23:52
Speaker 2
Really? I mean it's like even just my medium amount
23:55
of time and fight gyms. It is like I don't
23:59
I mean, I don't know which direction the causality arrow goes,
24:02
but that shit is a one way street to proudboy Town.
24:05
Speaker 4
It's fu ridiculous, all a bunch of fascists with cauliflowered ears.
24:11
Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean, I guess it's the testosterone and the
24:14
fucking low information like environment. I don't know, I mean
24:20
low information and very hierarchical environment and violent, pure fast.
24:24
Speaker 1
Yeah, of course, when it's the sort of thing where
24:26
it's just like I was able to work out and
24:28
train my way into being a good fighter, So why
24:30
can't you work out your way into owning a home?
24:33
Speaker 2
Yeah? Yeah, it's true. I mean it is.
24:36
Speaker 3
You have debt.
24:41
Speaker 2
It's all about grind st Joey. I have a couple
24:43
of seminars and some webinars to sell you if you
24:46
want to really like level your game. I don't know,
24:50
it's just like fucking yeah, I don't know. I mean,
24:53
I think whatever it takes to be a fighter or
24:55
think you can fight. I don't think that you can
24:58
and should fight another man. Uh usually almost it's men.
25:02
It's to the men. It's the problem really makes you
25:06
into I think, I guess it just primes you to
25:10
be a fascist. It would be my guess. Yeah, but
25:13
you know what, I don't know anyway, they're all little
25:15
Nazi fight clubs except for the handful of that art.
25:18
Speaker 4
I do feel like professional wrestling audiences, to your point,
25:21
are more a part of the show than really like
25:25
any other audience. Yeah, you know, Like I mean there
25:28
are like football stadiums where they're like we're the twelfth Man,
25:32
and like we pride ourselves on that. But it's not
25:35
like they're not like getting camera time throughout, like as
25:39
important things are happening, Like people aren't walking through the
25:43
stadium like to like score a touchdown. You know.
25:46
Speaker 3
It's like the wrestling audiences are right right there and
25:51
be like giving feedback and be like playing a part
25:55
in the in the show, which is kind of cool.
25:57
Speaker 1
And because it's a because it's a live show every
25:59
week week, like they're real, like the an audience's reaction
26:04
can actually dictate like the creative direction that a wrestler
26:08
storyliner career goes and it's it is this interesting thing
26:11
where it's like you might have a wrestler that they're
26:13
pushing as like a you know, as a face or
26:15
a good guy, and the audience just completely rejects them,
26:18
and they're like, oh, maybe we're not going to put
26:19
that guy on TV. It is it's kind of like
26:21
if in Star Wars episode one, if like they could
26:25
get live audience reaction halfway through act one and realize
26:28
everybody hated charge our banks and they're just like, oh,
26:31
he's just gonna die off, and you know the second effect,
26:34
and now the story is about Watto what.
26:38
Speaker 4
About So by that logic, look out for a return
26:44
of Hollywood Hulkogan. The wasn't that when he like did
26:48
a bad turn and was like had had the beard
26:52
Speaker 1
Yeah, well that I mean I think that like the
26:54
reveal is that he's been always a bad guy behind
26:57
the scenes, but of course actual on camera persona, this
27:00
was Hollywood Hulkgain. Yeah.
27:01
Speaker 4
Maybe they take the booze in they're like, what, maybe
27:04
we have something powerful here.
27:06
Speaker 2
That's so yeah, maybe the way you put it of
27:08
like the audience is the reallest part, Like I'm like, yeah, yeah,
27:12
they're the real athletes.
27:14
Speaker 1
What was really nice about this because it was the
27:17
it was the first time that they, you know, aired
27:19
Monday Night Raw on Netflix, and this was like a
27:21
five billion dollar deal or a six billion dollar deal
27:23
or something like that. So all the Netflix execs were
27:25
in the audience, and Hulk Hogan getting booeds so mercilessly
27:29
as he's trying to be a good guy, tells me
27:31
the Netflix execs are going to be like, maybe you
27:32
don't put that guy on TV anymore?
27:35
Speaker 4
Yeah, beautiful, Yeah, what way to go Monday Night Raw audiences?
27:40
Speaker 1
Yeah you did it.
27:41
Speaker 4
You've done some good work at a time it's very
27:45
dark right now, so we needed a glimmer of hope.
27:48
Thank you for that, Joey. What is something you think
27:51
Speaker 1
Something I think is overrated is I'm going to say
27:54
Miles Gray. Now that he's not here, we can finally
27:56
let's say kidding, just kidding, he's very out of Miles,
28:03
So I'm gonna say the thing I think is overrated
28:05
is drinking water. I think that, like, look, drinking water
28:09
is the thing that I know we have to do,
28:10
but you're just gonna pee it out later. It feels
28:12
like it's just a waste of energy, you know.
28:14
Speaker 3
Mm hmm, Okay, yeah, I like that. Do you have
28:18
a beverage that you prefer to drink or you're just
28:21
saying all liquids?
28:23
Speaker 1
Yeah, I guess I've been working out with a personal
28:25
trainer for the past couple of years, so I guess
28:28
Speaker 2
Can I just yeah protein baby? Yeah?
28:31
Speaker 1
Wait Andrew? Or do you drink protein shakes and stuff?
28:35
Speaker 2
I have a thing, a Costco container of protein powder
28:39
that I have maybe five every ten months.
28:46
Speaker 3
Something five containers or five shakes.
28:48
Speaker 2
No, five shakes, like five ounces I suppose or whatever
28:53
of the powder. It's it's not going fast, it's been
28:56
it's been there for a minute. There's a whirl where
28:58
I need to throw it away, But I'm not going
29:01
to investigate that work genuinely expensive.
29:03
Speaker 1
I totally get being like, I mean, expired a year ago.
29:06
But does powder expire fine? I don't think powder.
29:13
Speaker 4
Powder doesn't go bad. It doesn't have any liquid in it.
29:16
It's good, good forever.
29:18
Speaker 2
Oh no, I I did. I did take the hole
29:21
This bag is you know, about the size of a
29:23
bag of rice. It's, however many gallons, and I did
29:27
I did hydrate the whole thing in the bag, So
29:29
it's just been slashing around in my cupboard. Jackstor the
29:33
bask Jack's doore the mask.
29:35
Speaker 4
No, I was actually trying to think of why we
29:37
called bean bags bean bags. Did beans used to come
29:39
in extremely large bags? Because I feel like rice bag
29:43
is the bag that is that size that I've seen
29:45
more often. Yeah, you know, I've never seen a bag
29:49
of beans that is as big as you know, a
29:53
bean bag chair. I'm assuming is named that because it's
29:56
the biggest bag that people were familiar with. I don't know,
30:01
that seems what my brain's doing while I should be
30:04
talking to you guys and hosting the podcast.
30:06
Speaker 1
It's hard to say. And an honest assessment of what
30:09
I've replaced water with in my diet is I've got
30:12
really into like peach flavored beverages, specifically, like imported Japanese
30:16
peach drinks are like fantastic. It's the sort of thing
30:20
where my girlfriend and I have we she recently moved
30:22
in with me, and we have just a stash of
30:24
peach beverages just in case. And yeah, so you never know.
30:30
Speaker 2
How many different types of beverages we're talking about here?
30:33
Speaker 1
Oh oh, now we're getting into it. I'm so excited
30:35
with this. Yea. So we have so we have like
30:37
a like a peach flavored water that's a very it's
30:39
very much water, but with like a light peach flavor.
30:42
That's kind of our daily drinker. And then when we're celebrating,
30:45
we've got this like sparkling cider peach drink that's like fantastic,
30:48
and that's for special occasions. And then you know, if
30:51
you're ever just having a hard day, we also have this,
30:53
like it's like a canned peach drink where the aluminum
30:55
part of the can is clear plastic. We got we
30:58
get those from Daiso. They're like a dollar fifty each
31:00
and those are also very refreshing. So right now three,
31:03
but like I would say, every couple of weeks, we'll
31:05
do peach drink taste tests where we'll just go to
31:07
a store and buy like five different brands of peach
31:08
drink to figure out which one we like best. And
31:11
that that Garfield and pro wrestling is my life, that's
31:16
my personality. Yeah, there you go.
31:18
Speaker 2
Have you had a clearly Canadian peach sparkling drink. They're
31:22
very sweet to my memory. But yeah, they're throw it
31:25
Speaker 3
I love it clearly Canadian.
31:27
Speaker 4
I know that's like a thing from my childhood that
31:31
I then start like for some reason, they sold it
31:34
at like the bookstore I went to when I lived
31:38
in Dayton, Ohio in like the early nineties, and then
31:41
I never saw it again for until like that. It's
31:44
had a resurgence recently and they've just like not touched
31:48
the like packaging at all. It's just the same the
31:51
same thing, which is one of the big appeals of it.
31:55
Speaker 4
I love it clearly Canadians the best. I feel like
31:58
it's it's having a bit of a moment.
32:01
Speaker 2
It's for shale right now. I'm looking at it.
32:03
Speaker 4
The Canadians need a win, you know that's true. Shout
32:06
out to them. I'm gonna call it clearly American. Now
32:11
it's gonna beautiful. Uh, let's take a quick break and
32:15
we'll come back and talk about our outgoing president.
32:20
Speaker 1
We'll be right back.
32:30
Speaker 3
And we're back.
32:32
Speaker 4
Windows are blowing open, lights are flickering, We're still on.
32:36
This is like the Hanukkah origin story. This episode that
32:41
we like can keep recording, you know, is like kind
32:44
of a miracle. One is like that they only had
32:48
like a tiny amount of oil, but it was able
32:50
to burn for eight nights.
32:52
Speaker 2
I believe that is cracked. Yes, and this is the
32:55
episode that is precisely what's happening here.
32:59
Speaker 4
That is exactly we're the last three people who still
33:04
have power in Los Angeles.
33:05
Speaker 1
Okay, so what religion is this going to start?
33:08
Speaker 4
Oh man, it's going to be bad, fucked up. The
33:16
Amelia Perez thing is going to mix with the w
33:19
W E thing in a weird way that none of
33:21
us saw coming, and it's just gonna all.
33:24
Speaker 1
Of us regret.
33:28
Speaker 2
I guess that's whatever count Orlock is. Is he the devil?
33:30
I don't know. Anyway, let me know.
33:32
Speaker 1
Hit me at the Last Supper.
33:37
Speaker 3
So it's like the origin story of the vampire myth
33:40
is kind of like how I took that or it's
33:43
like one of the first of the vampire myths. So
33:45
it's like, I don't know.
33:46
Speaker 2
I actually did watch a YouTube about this. It was,
33:50
you know, so close to bram Stoker's Dracula the novel
33:53
that it was legally actionable and one's case.
33:56
Speaker 4
Great, but bram Stoker copied it no other way, Yeah, okay,
34:01
copy Brimstone. Yeah. Yeah.
34:03
Speaker 2
But like you know in an Ero when it was
34:05
like they were like this will be fine, and Rebstaker's widow,
34:11
I believe, sued them successfully, but they were so little
34:14
money left that she got nothing. So but the other thing,
34:18
apparently this this was the origin of you can kill
34:22
Dracula with sunlight.
34:23
Speaker 3
Yeah, this is the origin of that. Yeah, I mean
34:27
Speaker 2
Like more game of thronesy, just fuck them up the
34:31
yeah a bunch. Yeah, you can do it with whatever
34:37
weapon you want, but you really it's just about racking
34:39
up hit points, like I just got to get that
34:42
Speaker 3
However you're doing it is a weird choice.
34:46
Speaker 4
But because you know, as we talked about Robert Egger's
34:49
Bobby Eggs like does have this really kind of engrossing
34:55
historic vision where you feel like you're being transported back.
34:58
Speaker 3
To this time. So it's it's a weird.
35:00
Speaker 4
Decision that he has that energy like life bar for
35:05
counter or lock the whole film anytime he.
35:07
Speaker 3
Appears on where you can see how much life he
35:11
Speaker 2
Yeah, every time he's like like getting.
35:14
Speaker 4
Power ups roll Ham and makes him much stronger.
35:21
Speaker 1
Yeah. The third act he shows up and then his
35:23
power bar forms, and then and then three more bars
35:26
Speaker 3
You like, oh, so crazy, man, he's about to fuck.
35:30
Speaker 1
On his neck.
35:31
Speaker 2
That's just glowing and sort of pulsing locks right onto
35:35
it every time you move. It's weird, but it's good.
35:38
The movie is good and I won. I finally won.
35:43
Speaker 4
Yeah, Well, onto somebody whose power bar. I'd really whose
35:47
life bar. I would really like to be able to see.
35:53
That would be really helpful if we could, if we
35:55
had so that we could just like see compare, Yeah,
36:00
how much life how much energy life force was left
36:04
for our respective candidates? Somebody who I think has to
36:08
be blinking red right about now, Joe Biden. Right at
36:13
the beginning of the break, right after we stopped recording
36:17
for twenty twenty four, an article dropped to The Wall
36:19
Street Journal about how like they knew he was in
36:25
bad shape, not like early in twenty twenty four or
36:31
like twenty twenty, you know, like before he started to
36:34
like right when he started his administration. Like there's an
36:38
anecdote in this article from twenty twenty one where they're
36:42
like they cancel a meeting and they're like, well, he
36:46
has good days and bad days, and today was a
36:48
bad day. So we're going to address this tomorrow. That
36:52
conversation occurred in the spring of twenty twenty one, just
36:56
months into the Biden administration. Is fucking and they tried
37:02
to run him again and then make us feel bad
37:05
for being like he is.
37:06
Speaker 3
Maybe I don't know, maybe he's too old. What what
37:12
Speaker 1
Q Sometimes president's got an app you know, right?
37:15
Speaker 2
Oh god, I mean the retrospect of that is so
37:18
fucking insane that their pitch was like, who doesn't have
37:22
an off night? And I'm just like, I'm so sorry
37:26
you cannot have your off night. Cannot be the presidential debate.
37:33
Speaker 1
Especially when they are like questions about your personality?
37:37
Speaker 4
Yeah, God, and especially when the truth of the situation
37:43
is as early as months after you were inaugurated, the
37:49
people who like run the Department of Defense were saying,
37:54
you have good days and bad days already, Like he was, like,
37:58
it's a fucking coin flip if this guy is going
38:01
to be able to sit in a meeting and retain
38:04
the information being presented to him.
38:07
Speaker 1
To be fair, we didn't see him on his good days.
38:11
He was doing backflips. He was packing tech deck like moves.
38:17
He was great, Joey, I love your three exercises. Look,
38:28
I'm in the middle of a hurricane right now, so
38:30
like any any compny specifics, I'm coming up with her.
38:34
Speaker 3
I like it.
38:35
Speaker 2
This is this is this is where your brain goes.
38:37
What are my three exercises to show that I'm not
38:40
losing my mind? I guess it's just walking walking on
38:44
a treadmill under a desk.
38:45
Speaker 1
And occasionally taking a sip of protein powder. Yeah, just
38:50
just a cheese food and doing the Carlock voice.
38:53
Speaker 4
One of the scary things that's implied is just like
38:57
how easy the government is to connect, completely manipulate when
39:01
you have somebody this infirm who is like being you know,
39:06
cordoned off from any from the media, from any of
39:10
like the from there's a quote from Democratic you know
39:16
Congress people who are like, yeah, I don't know, man,
39:19
I like never saw him when I like when I
39:21
was on this committee and I was like the junior member,
39:24
I would see Obama like every couple of weeks with Biden.
39:28
Speaker 3
You just like never saw.
39:29
Speaker 4
Him, which like the implication there is like that's really
39:33
dangerous because you know, he could be being manipulated, he
39:37
could be you know, do just like, who knows what
39:41
the fuck is happening. There's no accountability when this person
39:45
is just completely off in the dark, being like held
39:49
behind closed doors. Who knows who is making the real decisions.
39:53
That's what's implied in the case of Biden, in the
39:56
case of Trump, like we're seeing it happen right in
40:01
front of us, Like it's just everybody is like, oh
40:04
my god, the power grab getting has never been this
40:09
good where we can just fucking sweep in here.
40:12
Speaker 2
But I think it's maybe just always been like that.
40:15
I mean, look, it's been like that. I'm fucking old
40:18
as shit, and you know that's that's the present that
40:21
I came into the world. Like that's what they were
40:23
doing with fucking Reagan the whole time.
40:25
Speaker 4
So yeah, Reagan was also a case of maybe maybe
40:29
we should have that age limit. I don't know, we
40:31
got the there's limit on one side, Maybe we should
40:34
think about having it on the side that would actually
40:38
Speaker 2
We're just like the doctors that are giving them their
40:41
mental competency exams, they should just those medical licenses should
40:48
be up for review every time they have to do
40:50
this because it is they are clearly lying to us
40:54
Speaker 1
Yeah. I mean there's the Trump thing of like he's
40:56
the most healthy human I've ever seen or something.
41:00
Speaker 3
Yeah, they're just like fucking hype men. The people giving
41:04
them the things. They're like, oh yo, this guy is
41:10
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. And it's tough because I mean it's not
41:12
just like Biden Trump. It's like there was a news
41:14
story a couple of days ago of a sitting member
41:18
of I believe Congress, just a couple days ago, like
41:21
is eighty two out of fall during you know, while
41:24
they were being sworn in or something like that. And
41:26
then there was I think that this came out, I
41:28
want to say, in December there was a new story
41:31
of I believe a member of Congress who just nobody
41:33
had really seen and hadn't made any of the meetings
41:35
for like six months or so, and then they came
41:38
to find out that the reason she hadn't been making
41:39
her meetings is because she was in like a dementia
41:41
ward like you know, and it's and she's also of
41:44
an elevated age, and it's just like, yeah, maybe that's
41:47
not somebody who should be like deciding whether or not
41:49
I have health insurance.
41:50
Speaker 4
You know, I like the idea of elevated age. Maybe
41:54
you're just not on my level. Bro, allright, I'm of
41:56
an elevated age. I'm a rind set.
42:00
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's it is. Maybe we're not
42:01
old enough to have a grindset? Andrew, is that in
42:04
your class teaching?
42:05
Speaker 2
Oh my god, it's about ya just grinding, grinding what
42:09
remains of your cognitive abilities dust? Apparently?
42:12
Speaker 1
Grindset is the sound makes when I stand up.
42:17
Speaker 4
The rain's coming. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, it seems bad.
42:22
Speaker 2
It just means, is there any mechanism for doing anything
42:28
Speaker 4
Like like such a tear down job, Like that's the
42:31
thing that just keeps hitting me in the brain over
42:33
and over, is like all this shit is such a
42:36
tear down like it's it needs to be like the
42:40
fucking constitution, Like everything just needs to be completely re evaluated.
42:45
Speaker 1
Yeah, it's almost like America is a weird country.
42:48
Speaker 2
Huh you think a bad one, A pretty bad one.
42:52
Speaker 2
Yeah, I mean I am a little bit curious of
42:56
the interest I guess of fucking you know, hearing people out,
43:00
like what the what is the fucking like lie that
43:03
like these people like you know, similar like like Diane f.
43:07
Einstein's like handlers, Like what do they tell themselves that
43:10
this is okay? Is it just weekend at Bernie's all
43:14
the way they're just like see their pants and they're
43:16
just like, oh, fuck, fuck, fuck fuck. If we don't
43:18
just like keep this, keep this lie going without any
43:22
eye to the future, then our present is like somehow inconvenienced,
43:27
like the fuck is wrong with these people that surely
43:30
they must know this can't go on forever and this
43:33
Speaker 4
It's a weird dynamic though, because he is both like
43:38
not all there, but also an extremely vindictive and the
43:45
most powerful person on the planet. And so you're just
43:48
like kind of like, I don't know, you're he's both
43:51
the boss you're scared of, and also somebody that you
43:56
recognize is like not up to the task of like
43:59
getting dressed by himself, let alone like running the country.
44:02
Speaker 3
And so how you.
44:04
Speaker 4
Know, I'm not saying I understand or like that it's acceptable,
44:09
but I understand how it happens, which is just like
44:12
everybody like kind of just quickly builds up this scaffolding
44:16
to like prop him up and then like immediately accepts
44:20
that that's the way it has to be. And he
44:22
like people who it's not just like the elderly, it's
44:26
you know, people who have had you know, uh, neurological
44:31
injuries or you know, like strips and things like that
44:34
are uniquely bad at like knowing what they're like what
44:40
they've lost the ability to do.
44:42
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, right, And so it's like that that's just
44:47
it's a weird It's just like a bad a bad situation.
44:50
I feel like, I mean, I.
44:51
Speaker 1
Think it's like there's like an optimistic It's like there's
44:54
the optimistic way to look at and the pessimistic way
44:56
to look at it. The optimistic way to look at
44:58
it is, you know, a lot of what we saw
45:01
in sort of the Biden administration kind of in his
45:04
you know, potentially running for a second term as people
45:06
saying like, well, you know, I think he's just the
45:08
man for the job to win the election. He beat
45:10
Trump in the last election, so blah blah blah blah blah.
45:12
And then the pessimistic one is it's just a lot
45:14
of people who were like, oh, I'm like in the
45:15
Biden administration. But that doesn't necessarily mean I would be
45:18
in the Harris administration because you know, like I don't
45:21
necessarily have the cachet there, so like if I keep
45:24
him propped up for a while, I'll like save my spot,
45:26
you know. So it's yeah, I imagine it's probably like
45:28
a mix of those two things.
45:30
Speaker 3
Just linked in logic.
45:32
Speaker 4
Is what's killing the like this would just be better
45:35
for my resume if he wishes.
45:37
Speaker 2
So yeah, right, it's just rank selfishness up and down board.
45:42
Speaker 3
That sounds like what it is.
45:43
Speaker 2
Oh my god, fucking hate these people.
45:48
Speaker 4
Indeed, let's let's take a quick break and we'll come
45:51
back and talk about Madam Webb. We'll be right back,
46:05
and we're back, and we are ten days out, nine
46:10
days out from the Academy Awards being announced on January seventeenth.
46:16
One movie that definitely won't get nominated for Best Picture
46:24
Speaker 1
It's a fun movie.
46:26
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's also the best of those Spider Man movies
46:30
that got put out this year.
46:31
Speaker 3
No, the the other ones, Crave Oh, Venom three.
46:37
Speaker 2
Okay, I guess my Craven is the quote unquote best,
46:41
But Madam Web is the best.
46:44
Speaker 1
Yeah, well I think that Madam Web It's just like,
46:46
what's so fun about Madam Web is it's basically watching
46:50
people take the biggest possible swings on screen and just
46:54
like whiffing it every single time. Like it's just like
46:57
a get together with your friends and why it on
47:00
like a Saturday night. It's like a fun watch.
47:03
Speaker 2
I really liked it. I really liked watching it. I
47:06
had a lot of fun. I there's some bizarre cg
47:10
in it that is like truly delightful.
47:12
Speaker 1
You're just like the adr is insane, the thing that is.
47:16
Speaker 2
So care Having now worked in a little bit of television,
47:20
I'm just like, how is this allowed? Like how did
47:25
this get approved to be like put in theaters? Just
47:29
in terms of pieces of the craft, I'm just like
47:32
this is wild to me. The star of Madame Webb
47:36
to me was the pepsi can. There's a floating PEPs
47:38
can it that's so amazing.
47:39
Speaker 1
Several scenes of a pepsi can that that Matt trying.
47:43
Speaker 4
To the pepsi can? Was that like she had it
47:47
but like never drank at it. What was the deal
47:49
with the pepsi can? And I think I just like
47:50
saw that meme without volume on, so I don't know
47:55
Speaker 1
So she's at a baby shower for a carre Spider Man.
48:00
It's a carry out baby shower for Peter Parker, but
48:02
for probably sony legal reasons, they can't say Peter Parker.
48:05
There's literally a point in this sequence where they say like, oh,
48:08
what's the baby's name, and then she goes to say Peter,
48:11
and then a car honks. You can't hear Peter. Yeah, yeah,
48:16
this is all real. This is really like Parker. Yeah, yeah,
48:20
one hundred percent.
48:21
Speaker 2
It's like Austin Powers didn't realize he didn't have the
48:25
rights to Spider Man but still has to produce a movie.
48:30
Speaker 1
Yeah, So this pepsican it's at you know, car honk
48:34
Parker's baby shower, and the lead in the movie is
48:38
carrying this pepsi can around. I'm definitely presenting it, like
48:40
clearly they have some brand deal with Pepsi, But at
48:42
no point does she open it. And she like goes
48:45
to try to open it several times, but then she'll
48:46
get interrupted like inner conversation, and it's like several scenes
48:50
of this, it's like she goes from the kitchen to
48:52
the outside to like another area, holding this pepsi can,
48:56
displaying it like it's a commercial, going to like act
48:59
like she's about to open it, and then stopping because
49:01
she like gets distracted by a bird or something like that,
49:03
and going, well, they won't.
49:04
Speaker 3
Say of our modern cinematic Yeah.
49:08
Speaker 2
I feel like it's genuinely they just caught Dakota Johnson
49:14
trying to figure out what a can of pepsi was,
49:17
and that's what it was.
49:20
Speaker 1
So something I also really appreciate is that in the
49:23
movie they established that Spider Man's outfit is inspired by
49:28
this little fit from like an unnamed indigenous tribe and
49:32
I believe like South America or something like that. So
49:34
by saying that, you're basically saying that Spider Man is
49:37
like a culturally appropriating this tribe.
49:39
Speaker 2
That's right.
49:39
Speaker 1
So you're like attroactively making Spider Man racist, which is great.
49:44
Speaker 4
At least they didn't do the Back to the Future
49:46
thing where the indigenous tribe was copying off of Spider Man,
49:53
because that's how Back the Future worst, where Marty McFly
49:58
white teenage Martin fly goes back in time and gives
50:02
Chuck Berry the idea for rock and Roll.
50:05
Speaker 2
Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, so probably what happened.
50:10
Speaker 4
So maybe yeah, but that that is the the famous
50:15
quote of like the guy who was there before my
50:17
mom died and when she was studying spiders in Oh.
50:21
Speaker 2
My God and so wonderful. Yeah.
50:25
Speaker 4
Anyways, none of these are the reasons that it won't
50:27
be winning Best Picture, because in order to be included,
50:33
you need to meet Hollywood's inclusion and representation standards, which
50:37
are they've been criticized for being like very loose and
50:45
you know, things that you could just accidentally do while
50:48
still like not having enough inclusion and representation in your film.
50:53
But these Madam Web and one hundred and sixteen other
50:58
feature films are released this year did not meet the
51:02
rules did not meet the standard, including Bad Boys, Ride
51:07
or Die, The Mean Girls Musical, and Sadly the Garfield Movie.
51:15
Speaker 2
Is this list of rules for quote diversity inclusion like
51:19
Hollywood diversity inclusion, as in they're just saying this needs
51:22
to have people of color or it's.
51:26
Speaker 4
So these are the four categories, and you have to
51:30
meet two out of the four standards on screen representation,
51:34
themes and narratives, creative leadership, and project team. So that's
51:39
behind the scenes presumably industry access and opportunities and audience
51:44
development on this development.
51:47
Speaker 1
Mate, So could this podcast be nominated for Best Picture?
51:51
Speaker 3
It's a great question.
51:52
Speaker 2
Well, yeah, obviously, yeah, rules for anything that's as perfect
51:57
as this. I mean not to be the Madame Web
52:02
apologist that I clearly am, but I actually don't see
52:05
how it does it. I mean, assuming that Hollywood, like
52:08
most American industries, counts white women as you know, a
52:12
group in the diversity requirement, I'm just like, is Madame
52:16
Web not all of these things?
52:17
Speaker 1
I guess it's probably behind the scenes is probably pretty
52:20
straight white dude. But that's just kind of my guess.
52:22
Speaker 2
Yeah, but I'm just saying the creative the I mean,
52:26
the lead. I'm assuming Dakota Dotson was an EP on this,
52:30
Like yeah, am I am? I Am? I wrong? Like,
52:34
it just feels like it's there.
52:35
Speaker 3
Seems like it probably passes the Bechdel test, right, so it.
52:40
Speaker 2
Depends on They're mostly talking about spiders, so yeah, they're talking. Yeah,
52:47
I think it's a spider Man.
52:51
Speaker 4
It does feel like maybe what's happening is they will
52:55
go through the exercise of like making a movie eligible
53:00
if they think it has any Award chances because like
53:03
another one that didn't make it this year, Harold and
53:08
Speaker 3
So it's Boy Kills World? Is that a sequel to
53:11
Boy Meets World? I don't know that world is.
53:14
Speaker 2
See uh, it's the The Count orlock first person one
53:19
with John Benjamin as the voice in like a that's
53:24
a shootery type of thing that I did not see.
53:28
Speaker 4
I think it's just like they like probably hire a spend,
53:33
spend like a million dollars to hire McKinsey to like
53:36
if they think it has a chance like making being nominated.
53:41
Speaker 2
Sony couldn't argue that Madame Webb does these things. And
53:45
I'm also shocked that I'm gonna say, just off the
53:48
top of my head, illumination couldn't argue that Garth the
53:51
Garfield movie didn't also do these things.
53:53
Speaker 1
Look, people, color orange is a color.
53:55
Speaker 2
I'm just saying, that's right, that's right, cats, that's right,
53:59
Odie whatever Odie is.
54:01
Speaker 1
There's like that movie probably I feel like I don't
54:04
know this for a fact, but I feel like there's
54:05
probably seen that movie where Garfield's girlfriend Arlene and a
54:10
female security guard talk about lasagna for more than four lines, So, like,
54:14
you know, I think this probably passes the Bechdel test.
54:17
Speaker 3
The Bechdel test is not one of the standards, by
54:19
Speaker 1
That was just me.
54:21
Speaker 2
We're just throwing this out there.
54:22
Speaker 4
Yeah, we're just throwing We put us in charge, Hollywood.
54:26
We'll let everybody in, all right. And finally, sex spots
54:32
are going a little bit viral right now because thanks
54:35
to this article from The Sun back in twenty sixteen,
54:40
then somebody went back and screen capped it was tweeted
54:43
out revealed women will be having more sex with robots
54:47
than men by twenty twenty five. This article came out
54:50
June thirtieth, twenty sixteen, is accompanied by a picture of
54:56
a like robot from Yeah well rob Yeah, I robot.
55:01
Yeah yeah, the I robot robot just like laying there
55:04
looking off pensively as a naked woman like nuzzles his chest.
55:10
Speaker 1
Yeah. The robot is thinking about the price of micro
55:14
Speaker 2
Weird day at the photoshop minds.
55:17
Speaker 1
I know, Yeah, woman having sex with a robot, and
55:22
the robot does have emotions and is not into this,
55:27
Speaker 2
Probably the weirder part is the graphic designer having to
55:29
pretend to mock something up rather than pulling from their
55:34
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It is kind of hot.
55:37
Speaker 1
That's yeah.
55:39
Speaker 2
Let me let me get right to see a.
55:41
Speaker 1
Couple of day like flip into personal stash robots. I
55:47
also loved that in this article, the word of robots
55:49
is an all caps, so it's like they're yelling at
55:52
Speaker 3
Yeah, more sex with.
55:54
Speaker 2
Robots than men.
55:56
Speaker 4
By twenty twenty five. Yeah, this person's got an ax
55:59
to grind with robots.
56:01
Speaker 2
Not to be not to be that guy. But probably
56:04
even before twenty twenty five, when you realize this is
56:08
this article is implying inferring that women will be having
56:12
sex with androids, you know, humanoid robots, sex bots. I
56:19
think that probably the definition of robot probably goes down
56:22
to including a decent number of existing commercial products that
56:27
are out on the market now in terms of sex having.
56:29
Speaker 4
That's why everyone look that hot and pensive. Well, you
56:34
nuzzle its chest, because that's the that's I'm just saying.
56:37
Speaker 2
If you draw a frownie face on a vibrator, you kind.
56:39
Speaker 1
Of robot.
56:43
Speaker 3
Said face vibrator. But yeah, I don't know.
56:45
Speaker 4
So people started sharing this when January first hit and
56:49
you know, people crowned twenty twenty five the Year of
56:52
robot fucking. Uh the headline and this is going to
56:56
surprise people because this article is from the Sun, which is,
57:01
you know, one of the finest news.
57:03
Speaker 2
Outlets, one of the Murdock ones.
57:07
Speaker 4
Yeah, the Sun is one of the one one of
57:09
Speaker 2
That uh, I was of the Murdoch ones.
57:13
Speaker 4
Yeah, really bad. Like also like nude pictures of women
57:18
in it. Like there's just a page that's like, oh
57:21
and this is the So you got your sports section,
57:24
you got your World news section, you got your Playboy
57:27
like magazine that we just begin news.
57:32
Speaker 2
You know, it's basically just you know, a broadsheet Reddit.
57:36
Speaker 3
Yeah exactly, that's right.
57:38
Speaker 4
So it's cites one future ologist, doctor Ian Pearson, who
57:44
said that there was probably going to be an era
57:48
of robot fucking that starts in twenty twenty five, and
57:53
that humans won't be overtaken by sex robots until likely
58:01
Speaker 3
But he and.
58:03
Speaker 4
He's he's pissed that this is going viral. So I
58:06
never said that. I said that, Like he specifically says
58:09
it is abstract that like it'll probably seem weird at first,
58:14
and like he's going to be doing it.
58:18
Speaker 1
Until it becomes delightful.
58:20
Speaker 2
Oh my god, I does no one. We're just not
58:24
questioning anyone who calls themselves a fucking future ologist. Has
58:28
any one of those fools ever been right about anything.
58:31
Speaker 1
That you're gonna say? Has any of those fools ever
58:32
been to the future?
58:34
Speaker 2
Yeah? Yeah, exactly where are they from?
58:37
Speaker 2
Yeah. All these fuckers are doing is across a broad
58:41
spectrum of people parroting sci fi tropes, and then they
58:45
each put a different year so that retroactively, one of
58:48
them will get the right year, and then they can
58:50
say the field of future ology is correct. Right, It's
58:53
like fortune teller grift.
58:55
Speaker 1
Well, I mean yeah, well that's that's like one hundred
58:57
percent of it is. It's like it's like the click
59:00
batization of the news is like it's not even focused
59:03
on like is this person an expert or not? It's
59:05
just is this a clickable headline? And it's like, yeah, yeah,
59:08
does this person have any sort of real background in
59:10
this or are they just like making up bullshit? And
59:11
people are like, well that's spicy, you know, like it's annoying.
59:16
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah.
59:17
Speaker 4
Fan sourcing the news now, yeah, it's all like fan
59:21
fiction at this point. Like I can't get over the
59:24
new Jersey drones thing going as viral as it did.
59:28
But it just seemed like people are like, I don't know, man,
59:31
it's like kind of boring right now.
59:33
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
59:34
Speaker 4
So the company that is the closest to making the
59:38
sex robot, so, first of all, you're going to be
59:40
shocked to learn that the actual sex robot industry in
59:44
twenty twenty five is more of a by dudes for
59:48
dudes type of a thing, like a lot of straight
59:52
men with disposable income, and that it's like a very
59:56
insular community where they all probably have like weird shorthand,
1:00:01
Like you could probably go spend a fascinating afternoon like
1:00:06
in a red subreddit about like you know, sex doll enthusiasts.
1:00:10
Speaker 3
And just like learning all the lingo and.
1:00:13
Speaker 2
Really shot.
1:00:16
Speaker 1
Right now, treat yourself that's right, subreddit and just take
1:00:22
Speaker 4
The highest end or like the closest to a you know,
1:00:28
android level sex robot can't even stand up because the
1:00:32
only robotic bit is her head.
1:00:34
Speaker 3
As it's a it's a woman.
1:00:37
Speaker 4
As our writer JM McNabb said, it kind of looks
1:00:41
like a collaboration between Maxim magazine and Disney World's Hall
1:00:46
of Presidence. Like that's kind of the energy that you're
1:00:49
getting from. It's just all very yeah, not a lot
1:00:53
of diversity. It's just a bunch of fifty to sixty
1:00:59
year old white guys being like, yeah, if you could
1:01:02
fuck a Barbie doll.
1:01:03
Speaker 2
I mean that's like the classic Silicon Valley thing, which
1:01:07
is you're just seeing in the most extreme version, which
1:01:09
is like creating a product and a fake market that
1:01:14
doesn't exist. You're just like, yeah, there's no need for this. Yeah,
1:01:17
there's I hate these people so much.
1:01:21
Speaker 1
But it's also like creating a product that's like actively
1:01:23
making the world worse.
1:01:25
Speaker 2
You know, yes, yes, yeah, how can I how can
1:01:27
I make the world worse? Full the venture capitalists until
1:01:31
they have they're pot committed, so they have to back
1:01:34
my Cockamamy idea. I mean it's you know, that's the
1:01:37
uber lyft Yeah for sure, a Waimo business model, and
1:01:40
just like oh good.
1:01:41
Speaker 1
Yeah, just like ear you're in for several million dollars.
1:01:43
Let's go. You can't know backing out now.
1:01:46
Speaker 4
Brian the editor just shared the link to our sex dolls,
1:01:50
and yeah, it looks like you could spend a lot
1:01:52
of time in here just being weirded out.
1:01:56
Speaker 2
All right, I'm fucking clicking now.
1:01:58
Speaker 1
Yeah, our sex dolls here's good grade fun.
1:02:05
Speaker 2
One favorite. Thank you Brian.
1:02:07
Speaker 3
Found my favorite one for me. I mean the rules.
1:02:11
Speaker 4
The very first rule is no dolls that represented child,
1:02:14
which is fucking bleak as hell that that has to
1:02:17
be the very first rule.
1:02:19
Speaker 2
I will just say my favorite question from this and
1:02:21
I am realizing I guess I click this. I am
1:02:23
absolutely signed in under my own Reddit account. Are these
1:02:28
dolls sex dolls legal? Okay? Whatever. The second half of
1:02:30
this question is will this doll pass customs, which tells.
1:02:34
Speaker 4
Me, h, this is also really good. How can you
1:02:39
dispose of dolls discreetly? And the first sentence of the
1:02:44
answer you should be able to cut it into smaller
1:02:47
pieces if you have a wrench or other tools to
1:02:50
dissemble the skeleton underneath as well, it might just be
1:02:53
easier to put it out for sale. Put it out
1:02:56
for sale like in a fucking yard sale or giveaway
1:03:01
on dollform dot com. Uh used sex doll is God damn,
1:03:07
what a weird interaction that must be. Just show up
1:03:10
at somebody's house and by their used sex doll, like
1:03:13
hear them refer to it, but like it's a person.
1:03:18
Speaker 2
Yeah, oh this is I'm loving being signed in on
1:03:22
my account here. This is great. I would you should
1:03:29
you disppose of the sex doll discreetly at all?
1:03:33
Speaker 1
I feel like proud.
1:03:35
Speaker 2
You should absolutely sit it on the curve next to
1:03:37
your trash. Can we wttle sign around invariably Hernack.
1:03:40
Speaker 1
Saying like just tred its thumbs so it looks like
1:03:45
Speaker 3
How do you clean the orifice after use? Is one
1:03:47
of the questions.
1:03:48
Speaker 4
These are all things that we can go check out, uh,
1:03:51
you know, whenever we want.
1:03:54
Speaker 2
If there was any justice in the world to read
1:03:56
about this in the Sun have to go to our
1:04:03
Speaker 4
Yeah the sun got too too excited able to fuck
1:04:10
Speaker 2
Yeah. But also this this idea, like like the scary
1:04:14
headline of women will be having more sexual robots, you
1:04:17
know obviously from a right wing mag is probably troubling.
1:04:21
Speaker 3
Yeah, scary thing like that plug.
1:04:25
Speaker 2
Yeah, all the actual facts are about no woman is
1:04:28
remotely interested in this. There's no market for this. The
1:04:30
only market is again, you know, probably the same two
1:04:34
hundred white guys that you can identify.
1:04:37
Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly they So they spoke to
1:04:40
a non future. By the way, the futurist. The futurist
1:04:44
they talked to was like, I never said that. That's crazy,
1:04:46
Like you just obviously took what I was saying out
1:04:48
of context. But they asked somebody who was has more
1:04:54
of an expertise on this and said that it's a
1:04:57
complex issue with a number of different considerations. But sex
1:05:00
robots probably may never really be a thing. Even if
1:05:04
they're produced, they will remain a niche product and mostly
1:05:07
used for companionship, with sex almost secondary to that which
1:05:11
we're already seeing like ais being used to help people's loneliness,
1:05:17
and like the way we interact with actual people is
1:05:21
not face to face and in person, So like, why
1:05:25
spend all the money on you know, these things cost
1:05:30
Speaker 3
Amount of money. Ten thousand dollars.
1:05:32
Speaker 1
Yeah, I got to say our sex dolls. There's a
1:05:34
eighty seven thousand members of the subreddit thirteen online now,
1:05:37
so shout out to those thirteen dudes. Yeah, that is
1:05:43
Speaker 4
Would have thought though, eighty seven thousand. Maybe it's people
1:05:46
doing it for the wolves.
1:05:48
Speaker 2
But yeah, okay, closing that and back to regular sex dollstock.
1:05:54
Speaker 3
We're to hang out here for a little bit, all right.
1:05:57
Speaker 4
Well, Joey, what a pleasure having you on the Daily
1:06:00
Zeitgeist as always?
1:06:02
Speaker 3
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
1:06:05
Speaker 1
Yeah, thanks so much for having me. Always a true
1:06:07
delight being on this show. You can follow me on Twitter,
1:06:10
Blue Sky, and TikTok at Joey Tainman, and you can
1:06:12
follow me on threads and Instagram at Joey Cliff with
1:06:15
five or six eyes. One thing I want to promote
1:06:17
is that I am currently working on a short film
1:06:20
called Paw. It's a kind of based on my experiences
1:06:23
growing up as a young Native kid on reservations. It's
1:06:25
about a young naive kid trying to find a place
1:06:27
to charge the video game console to pow wow. And
1:06:30
I've got a substack where I'm talking about it Joey
1:06:32
Cliff dot substack dot com. You can find more information
1:06:35
about the production and places to see it. So definitely
1:06:38
check that out, support that project. And then it was
1:06:41
the trailer just dropped today. I'm on season ten of
1:06:43
I'm actually on Dropout, so check that out. If you nice,
1:06:47
love yourself some drop out. There you go, and.
1:06:50
Speaker 3
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
1:06:53
Speaker 1
So a work of media that I've been enjoying is
1:06:56
I would say this video of hul coke and getting
1:06:58
booed Merciless sleep by. Yes, it was croud when he
1:07:01
came out to promote his new real American anti woke
1:07:04
beer brand. You can find a really great cret clip
1:07:06
of it shared by at the Enemy's pe three on Twitter,
1:07:11
and it's just it's like forty five seconds long. And
1:07:13
if you want to watch an old racist get booed
1:07:15
by twenty thousand people, just like treat yourself, you know.
1:07:19
Speaker 3
There you go?
1:07:22
Speaker 4
Great having you, Andrew? Where can people find you as
1:07:25
their workmedia you've been enjoying?
1:07:27
Speaker 2
Andrew T on Blue Sky. I guess I don't know.
1:07:30
Instagram probably instagram'spad now was bad before the work of media.
1:07:34
It's not really, strictly speaking, any individual piece of media.
1:07:38
But I think I have already found my salad of
1:07:40
twenty twenty five. I saw it from a particular I
1:07:44
guess it was sent to me as an Instagram but
1:07:46
i'd probably TikTok technically but also it's not this person's
1:07:50
original recipe anyway, and I'm sure there's a million copycats anyway,
1:07:54
Celery lemon, dates shallatts olive oil. The original recipe said
1:08:00
parmesan cheese. I put in some blue cheese lemon. Did
1:08:05
I say lemon? Holy shit? I ate the salad twice.
1:08:08
I ate, for the first time of my life in
1:08:10
one day, an entire bunch of celery, which is insanity.
1:08:15
That's a lot's a great salad ever anyway, so good
1:08:19
cut the celery on a bias very thin. Holy shit.
1:08:22
I'm gonna make one after this recording for real.
1:08:25
Speaker 3
That sounds really good. Salad of the year. Salad of
1:08:28
Speaker 1
There you go.
1:08:29
Speaker 4
That's that's your work of media, folks. You can find
1:08:31
me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien and on Blue
1:08:35
Sky at jack obi one. And I've been enjoying this
1:08:43
comic of a chicken crossing over a chunk of road
1:08:49
and it's just why did the chicken cross the road?
1:08:52
It's very by Beetle Moses at beetle Moses on Twitter.
1:08:57
Speaker 1
Yeah. Another work of media the subreddit r s I
1:09:00
sex dolls is it's a workimedia.
1:09:01
Speaker 4
I've really been I've been spending a lot of time lately.
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Speaker 2
It's the most reading I've done today. So oh, I
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did actually get a book that I think people know about,
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but I read it was a Christmas present called Between
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Two Fires, a very very unpleasant sort of I guess
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medieval horror. It's set during the Black Plague, and it's
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like it's sort of like if Game of Thrones, but
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the underlying mythology slash magic in the world was like
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medieval plague era conceptions of Catholicism, so there's like angels
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and devils and all kinds of fucking horrible shit happening.
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It's a very unpleasant read, and I think people know
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about it, but it's pretty good.
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Speaker 4
Between two Fires and it is a subtle parody of
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Between Two Ferns.
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Speaker 2
Correct.
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Speaker 4
Yeah, interesting workI media I've been enjoying well. M Uol
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on Twitter wrote, the most attractive thing a man can
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do is hitting his own head and repeating stupid, stupid, stupid,
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and that's one of my go to moves. Ladies, you
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Speaker 3
You can find me on Blue Sky at jack Obe.
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Speaker 4
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there the footnotes, which is where we link us to
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the information that we talked about in today's episode, as
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well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
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Speaker 2
I just had a song suggested to me called Purple
1:10:58
Snowflakes by say She. I don't know if it's been
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done or people, but it's of the previous rideouts. It
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feels like sort of on that vibe brand. Yeah.
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Speaker 4
I just had like a run on a shuffle this
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morning of like three of the songs that Miles is recommended,
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and I was like, man, you recommend some good songs.
1:11:18
Speaker 2
This feels this feels like Miles ish and maybe it's
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I don't know, maybe there's a reason it's not, or
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maybe it's been recommended this band, but you know, it's
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sort of like, uh, how do Spotify describe its psychedelic discodelic.
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Speaker 3
Purple Snowflakes by Say Yeah.
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Speaker 2
I do recommend and I think it would fit in
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Speaker 4
Well, we will link off to that in the footnotes.
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Speaker 1
Oh yeah