There’s more news and less comprehension today than any historical period that didn’t involve literal witch trials, and trying to stay on top of it all can feel like playing a game of telephone with 30 people, except everyone’s speaking at the same time and like a third of them are openly racist for some reason. From Cracked co-founder Jack O’Brien, THE DAILY ZEITGEIST is stepping into that fray with some of the funniest and smartest comedic and journalistic minds around. Jack and co-host Miles Gray spend up to an hour every weekday sorting through the events and stories driving the headlines, to help you find the signal in the noise, with a few laughs thrown in for free.
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episode 1: Zeit Risk T****Twister 3/3: Zelenskyy, Trump, JD Vance, Academy Awards
In this edition of Zeit Risk T****Twister, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, Zelenskyy's tense meeting with Trump and Vance, JD Vance's ski vacation, the Academy Awards and much more!
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00:02
Speaker 1
So, but Brian, do you do you recommend Flight Risk?
00:06
I mean, it's funny just you showing me that clip.
00:09
I'm kind of want to know more, but I also
00:12
feel like I saw the best part, like you just know.
00:15
Speaker 2
No, there's there's more.
00:16
Speaker 3
But the thing about Flight Risk is it's a lean
00:18
ninety and it's so stupid.
00:22
Speaker 2
That it wies by pardon like twenty minutes.
00:27
Speaker 4
Yeah, anything where I'm like, oh.
00:29
Speaker 3
It is hour thirty, Okay, I can do this, Like
00:32
I rarely shut off a ninety minute movie.
00:35
Speaker 2
No, no, no, That's why I like I watched like
00:37
Hallmark Christmas movie because they're like an hour and fifteen, but.
00:41
Speaker 3
It's too short and it's too dumb to be like
00:44
too offended by it.
00:46
Speaker 1
Right.
00:46
Speaker 4
I did not know that it was a screwball con
00:49
like I guess I kind of had the sense that
00:51
it was a slapstick comedy from his hair falling off,
00:54
but like the way way trailers pitched, it was, yeah,
00:59
that it was just a thing like that, that it
01:01
was a thriller and it's not straight up a dude
01:05
just style violence comedy.
01:08
Speaker 2
I did not think there would be a titty twister.
01:11
Speaker 3
The titty Twister killed them, Like, what do you think.
01:14
Speaker 2
Of our lord whatever world we are in now that
01:17
we're doing? All right, titty twister.
01:20
Speaker 4
As he reveals that he doesn't get paid to be
01:23
a hit man, he just does it for free, for
01:26
the free opportunity to give people titty twisters.
01:29
Speaker 2
And I'm wondering if that line was I can't tell
01:33
if that was improved.
01:35
Speaker 3
I can't tell if the tns twister line was improved.
01:39
Speaker 2
Twister in the script, because it's hard for me to
01:43
imagine that being in a script. It's so stupid. All right, ye,
01:48
sitty twister.
01:48
Speaker 4
Yeah, I didn't see it come during the UH during
01:52
the Flight Risk Best Original Screenplay montage, Like they didn't
01:57
show that part, so it was hard.
01:59
Speaker 2
I can't picture that table read at all.
02:07
Speaker 4
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this Monday morning week
02:12
trend edition of Daily Yes Yes, oh yeah.
02:18
Speaker 2
Da or da da da.
02:21
Speaker 1
Yes, because we are I don't know if you saw
02:24
there's thing at the Kremlin news like now that Russia
02:27
and the United States foreign policy goals have aligned, and
02:30
I'm like, wow, what a way to put that? Yeah, okay, anyway.
02:34
Speaker 4
Just gravitationally, it just happened as a matter of course,
02:38
there is nothing offward or pushy happening. Yeah, sometimes weird
02:43
you know, no weird jerking of the steering wheel to
02:46
one side that doesn't really make sense for any reason
02:49
that anybody can tell.
02:51
Speaker 1
I think it's like, yeah, Republicans will be like, well,
02:52
you know, broken clocks right twice a day. That's kind
02:55
of the overlap you're seeing versus now. It's like, no,
02:58
the watch is said to the exact same time, like
03:01
at the everything it's the witch actually the same.
03:03
Speaker 2
It's they're not broken.
03:05
Speaker 4
They actually don't need watches because he just tells us
03:08
what time it is. You just call him and he tells.
03:10
Speaker 1
Like metaphorically, he's like, oh, what's up home, you know
03:12
what time it is? Like Vladimir I do.
03:15
Speaker 2
Putin does say that all the time. What's up, homie?
03:18
You know, you know what time it is? Jack that
03:22
over there is Miles.
03:24
Speaker 4
And this is the episode where we tell you all
03:27
the things that we're trending from Friday through Monday morning.
03:33
Speaker 2
But first we like to get to know you a
03:35
little bit better.
03:36
Speaker 4
Let you get to know us a little bit better
03:38
by telling you stuff we think is underrated, stuff we
03:41
think is overrated. We like to ask our guests throughout
03:43
the week what they think is underrated overrated?
03:45
Speaker 2
This is where we get a chance saying.
03:49
Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah, and you know what, I'm just going to
03:54
go through all the overrated and underrated from our guests
03:57
from the past week and talk about why they're wrong. Now, Miles,
04:02
what is something you think is under rated?
04:05
Speaker 2
Oh? Man?
04:08
Speaker 1
Couple things first. One pretty obviously, but not price gouging.
04:13
Huh pretty, I think a pretty solid business model or
04:17
just you know, for if we live like in a
04:19
time where everyone's like, what a consumer goodwill?
04:21
Speaker 2
What do we have consumer confidence? Yeah? Stop just fucking
04:25
over charging people. I say this because I went to
04:27
this Japanese market in La I bought a dozen organic eggs.
04:32
You know how much? I got a dozen organic eggs
04:34
for at least.
04:35
Speaker 1
Forty five dollars five ninety nine What five dollars ninety
04:41
nine cents is what I walked out of this Japanese mark.
04:43
Speaker 2
Weird because you're telling.
04:44
Speaker 4
The story like it just happened and not like it
04:47
happened in nineteen ninety seven.
04:49
Speaker 2
Yeah. When I when I.
04:50
Speaker 1
Were twelve years old, when I was no, I couldn't.
04:54
I thought I was fucking stealing something. When I saw that,
04:58
I was like, no.
04:59
Speaker 2
Bro, did they did?
05:00
Speaker 1
They fucking fuck up their handwriting? And then I asked
05:03
one of the people, I said, it's five ninety nine.
05:05
They're like, yeah, just just you can only take pick
05:07
up the hand.
05:10
Speaker 2
I put it.
05:11
Speaker 1
I was so fucked up, like you know, like you're
05:13
just so conditioned as a consumed like yeah, they're fucking
05:15
me again that you see it, and then you're like,
05:19
I'm not being fucked or I'm being fucked gently.
05:23
Speaker 2
Yeah, I don't know. So anyway, that was such a thing.
05:26
Speaker 1
And then like I told everybody's like, yo, you need
05:28
to get down to the Nigia market over here. I
05:30
saw tell bro they got a fucking they got the
05:32
ships for five ninety nine. So that was fantastic. The
05:36
other thing I'll say underrated a petty knife. Petty knife
05:39
is a small sort of like a small knife you'd use,
05:43
much smaller than like your kitchen knife. Yeah, it's like
05:45
a pairing knife basically, it's like a utility knife. But
05:49
it so I recently, my cousin got back from Japan
05:53
and you know, my house.
05:55
Speaker 2
Burned down, so I lost I lost all my knives.
05:58
Speaker 1
And I had a couple of Japanese concept I was
06:02
very like, very connected to. He like replaced all my
06:07
knives for me. It was very very sweet, and but
06:10
I got like a new petty knife. This shit is
06:13
so fucking sharp that I'm like using I'm like using
06:17
it more than like my traditional kitchen knife because it
06:20
just you get such control with it. I'm peeling fucking
06:22
fruit for the geist child, I'm peeling for everything. I'm
06:26
cutting cheese, I'm deboning fucking chicken. Anyway, it's very nice.
06:31
I think all that to say, it's probably just a
06:33
sharp ass knife really is the best thing.
06:34
Speaker 2
But a petty knife is great because it's easy to control.
06:37
Speaker 1
Small sharp, small sharp, best cheese knife you could use.
06:41
Speaker 2
It's just so fucking solid.
06:44
Speaker 1
So you know, I just want to say, people at
06:47
the very least are we talking on that blade like
06:49
finger were talking like four and like five inches five inches.
06:55
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's not like a fox cut or no, no, no no,
06:58
but it's enough that it's like if someone said, hey,
07:00
I'm gonna chop this like cabbage up you like with
07:03
this fucking tiny thing, Like.
07:04
Speaker 1
No, but if you're like, hey, I'm gonna slice a
07:06
tomato or whatever, cut stuff up smaller, perfect, perfect.
07:11
Speaker 2
Okay, got it.
07:12
Speaker 4
I'm just picturing John Boyce's character from Anaconda coming in
07:16
and be like, I'll cut you up real nice.
07:20
Speaker 2
They don't buy.
07:22
Speaker 4
And I can do that machine because he's doing Yeah
07:25
it's John.
07:26
Speaker 2
Yeah, you're doing a white guy doing doing. We don't
07:29
even know that. Yeah, yeah, exactly, I can do Radagan.
07:33
We have these specific white people that act as conduits
07:37
to do a problematic without being problematic. That's right, all right?
07:44
Speaker 4
Uh, my underrated is wind?
07:47
Speaker 2
Just by me.
07:49
Speaker 4
I've never once h checked the weather report for wind. Uh,
07:54
and then it just uh well, first of all, did
07:57
just burn down entire chunks of Los Angeles earlier this year.
08:01
I don't know if you heard about that, Miles Wins
08:04
while you were out for some reason.
08:06
Speaker 2
I don't. I don't know what you were up to, bros.
08:10
Missed the crazy news story.
08:13
Speaker 4
But and then even then, like people had a hard
08:17
time blaming the wind, like Henry Winkler and Whitney Cummings
08:20
had to make up an arsonist god the wind.
08:25
Speaker 2
I just think I was Whitney Cummings anyway, but God,
08:28
damn Phonsie. Unbelievable.
08:30
Speaker 4
Yeah, for you. I know, we're all for you, Phonsie.
08:33
Hopefully he comes back. Hopefully he's like, sorry, guys, that
08:37
got away.
08:37
Speaker 2
That's what that's what millions do to you.
08:40
Speaker 4
Yeah, it's just like, you know, he's with a bunch
08:43
of people in the Palisades probably who lost their you know,
08:48
five million dollar homes and is uh they have theories.
08:53
Speaker 1
I lost my only home in the Palisades. I have
08:57
five in the state, but Palisades home is my own.
09:00
Speaker 2
I lost my Palisades home. But yeah, I don't know.
09:04
Speaker 4
I think it's like but I think I suffer from
09:06
the same thing where wind is just hard for me
09:10
to plan for. I'm just like never expecting it. I'm
09:14
never checking for it. Suddenly the air is like twenty
09:16
degrees colder than I was expecting it to be. My
09:19
kids are shivering, my hat is flying away.
09:22
Speaker 1
Your two pay is blowing off like it always blows away,
09:26
which is kind of fun. Yeah, I do like the
09:29
comedic yeah, facing after.
09:33
Speaker 2
It down the street.
09:34
Speaker 4
Also, I'm gonna say, I don't know, I'm assuming it's
09:37
hard to add like fake wind in a movie. Maybe not,
09:42
but like I feel like it should be used more often.
09:45
It's a great atmospheric Like movies love to use the
09:48
rain to set a mood. But like there's this movie
09:53
Volvaire that I think is the one that Penelope Cruise
09:56
won an oscar for.
09:58
Speaker 2
But it like takes place in a a.
10:00
Speaker 4
Constantly windy town and it like just has these like
10:04
poetic meditations on like the wind, like legends that like
10:07
the wind drives you mad when you live there, and
10:10
there's just this like constant sound and movement and it's
10:15
just like a constant ghost howling down the streets of
10:18
your town. Yeah and then uh and yeah, then it
10:21
just starts. It causes things to just start flying around
10:25
that never flew around before. It's like someone just comes
10:28
along and shakes your city like a snow globe, and
10:30
then you get to like pick everything up. Earthquake last night, Yeah,
10:34
oh yeah, speaking of getting shook in like a fucking
10:37
snow globe.
10:37
Speaker 2
There's just like one big shake. It was like it dropped.
10:40
It was one of those droppers where yeah, yeah, and
10:44
then a little Rocky the at the center North Hollywood, California,
10:49
Baby yeah, coming for you. Man. It's I know, part
10:53
of me was like, what the fuck.
10:55
Speaker 4
Leave me alone, me alone, mileshows what you think is overrated?
11:03
Speaker 2
Overrated.
11:04
Speaker 1
This ties into the Oscars, but the old way of
11:06
presenting like awards, traditional awards show presentation, like when presenters.
11:12
Speaker 2
Go up to give out the award.
11:14
Speaker 1
This is like one thing that I really liked about
11:17
the Oscars was the way they like personalized the presenters
11:20
connections to the nominees.
11:23
Speaker 2
Was like oh yeah with Robert Downey Junior.
11:25
Speaker 1
Yeah, or just like even when like the costume when
11:27
it was time for costume design, each person that was
11:30
in the film sort of like was giving their flowers
11:32
to the person that like design the costumes or like
11:35
other people just giving it up to like other direct
11:37
you know, like it was just it felt like so
11:39
much better than just sort of like the art of
11:43
editing is known as a block and like there still
11:47
was some of that, but to have like then sort
11:49
of couple that with people saying like I was so
11:51
great to work with you, like your dedication, it just
11:55
gives it a nice personal touch that it feels almost
11:57
like oh shit, like yeah, cool, you're It's nice to
12:01
see other people acknowledge their contribution even before an award
12:05
is given. I think that was just a very nice
12:08
touch to it because it it almost came off genuine
12:11
and I am off like their people, celebrities, their people too. Yeah,
12:16
So I was like, okay, cool, this made it a
12:19
little more interesting because like you're just kind of you
12:21
kind of.
12:21
Speaker 2
Build the skill of.
12:23
Speaker 1
Tuning out like this sort of kind of like very
12:26
dry boiler plate kind of like and now.
12:28
Speaker 2
To give the award, here are the nominees.
12:30
Speaker 1
Part you're just kind of like you just basically black
12:32
out until they open the envelope to announce it, right,
12:35
Whereas this one gave you a little bit more of
12:37
a reason to listen.
12:38
Speaker 2
So I thought, you know what, that's good, nice touch.
12:40
I'll give you that. Yeah.
12:42
Speaker 4
And then the ones that weren't that I felt like,
12:44
yeah by comparison because like I can't read the prompter.
12:49
Speaker 2
Oh yeah, well, like it was great one.
12:51
Speaker 1
It's like and now Andrew Garfield will go up to
12:54
like just give his flowers to a sort of confused
12:56
Goldie Hawn, who wasn't sure that this was like her.
13:00
Speaker 2
Moment she was. She was like being so humble. She
13:02
was like, oh, thank you, honey, Well let's keep this movie.
13:04
Speaker 1
He's like, no, I have more yeah, yeah, And she
13:07
was like oh okay again, Like I felt like that
13:10
was the overall theme that was like emphasizing the humanity
13:13
of people, like, hey were people.
13:15
Speaker 4
You know, my mom loved you, she was you were
13:18
part of her. My mom was really into you because
13:22
you know old and anyways, I know, you love hearing
13:26
stuff like that.
13:27
Speaker 1
The whole Goldie Han thing made me think about how
13:30
like I used to just watch like all these like
13:32
retrospective TV shows, Like I remember I knew Goldiehans and movies,
13:37
and then I, like, as a twelve year old, found
13:39
out about Laughing and like she had this whole comedic
13:43
career and she's like held up as like a great
13:46
comedic performer that I was just like, I don't know.
13:48
I mean, I know he from like Bird on a
13:50
Wire like whatever movie she was in in the eighties
13:53
like stuff like that.
13:54
Speaker 2
Yeah, But then what was the thing Nixon said on Laughing?
13:57
Speaker 1
Like I was just trying to remember, Like I was like, there,
13:59
I know, there's a famous like Nixon line in Laughing
14:03
where they had Nixon as a guest on Laughing.
14:05
Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah, like Lauren michael Y sock it to me,
14:11
That's what it was. Sock it to me. And again
14:14
this is a product of me watching like weird VH.
14:16
Speaker 1
One shows that it then made me think, are younger
14:20
people gonna give a fuck about like shit that we
14:24
remember from the nineties and eighties the way somehow I'm like, yeah, laughing,
14:27
remember that Nixon moment from laughing in the sixties seven?
14:31
Speaker 4
Right, I don't feel like I knew that laughing existed
14:33
for most of my life, Like I was not watching
14:36
the retrospectives. I did not know that Goldie Hawn was like, uh,
14:40
you know, a young ingenue on this like basically it
14:44
was like another SNL SNL competitor that she was like
14:50
the star of the breakout star of and then like
14:53
went and started to be in movies and immediately like
14:56
got nominated or won an oscar with them like a
14:58
couple of years and couple of movie rules. But yeah,
15:02
I'm actually reading this Lorne Michael's biography, and it's like
15:08
interested like talked about that that early stuff and those
15:11
early tons and a lot of the shit is not
15:14
that funny in the early days, but comes around. I'm assuming,
15:19
all right, sticking with the oscars, my overrated I would
15:22
say is like, all right, did.
15:26
Speaker 2
You watch Kieran Culkin's acceptance speech.
15:28
Speaker 1
I was in the room when it happened, and then
15:31
I just wasn't interested in what he was saying. So
15:33
I know you had mentioned something earlier, and I was like, yeah.
15:37
Speaker 4
I think, like I find him charming, like you, he's
15:40
like you want to love him and hate him, like
15:42
it's the whole thing with his character on succession. But
15:45
then like he hates himself already, so he's sort of
15:48
just being like, ah, well, he took care of that part,
15:50
so I just like him, like okay. So he got up,
15:54
gave a speech, and then like at the end, was like,
15:56
all right, so there's my wife, jazz uh and like
16:01
I told her, if I want an Emmy, she would
16:04
give me a third baby, and I want an Emmy
16:09
and she was like, no, I'm not going to do that,
16:12
but if you went an Oscar, I'll give you a fourth.
16:15
And he was like, well, now I want an Oscar,
16:18
so let's let's get to fucking essentially.
16:20
Speaker 2
And I I get that.
16:22
Speaker 4
It was like tongue in cheek and he may not
16:25
be expecting her to have a baby, but the people
16:28
who meet her for the first time for the next
16:30
ten years of her life. Are sure going to be
16:33
asking about it?
16:34
Speaker 2
It just you know what, maybe guys on you owe him? Right?
16:39
Speaker 4
Just a weird And it also just felt like a
16:41
weird like tread wife as child bearing reward figure. Yeah
16:46
sure for like man doing good job at work paradigm.
16:49
It just felt felt a little like, I don't know,
16:53
a handmaid's tail style birthing contract and not that like
16:56
that's the energy he was giving and people like people
17:00
seem to be like this was one of the highlights.
17:02
It was like such a cute human moment. But I
17:06
just don't felt it.
17:08
Speaker 2
Even as like a joke to be like you owe me,
17:11
you owe me a child me? What do you what
17:14
do you like? King Richard? What the fuck is this ship?
17:17
Like you owe me? Where are my heirs? And I
17:21
get maybe being like but he doesn't mean it, so
17:24
it's fine.
17:24
Speaker 1
I'm like, Okay, it's kind of like the same way
17:27
like the Office was getting away with like racist jokes
17:30
by being well, he's dumb, so it's like, wow, that bad. Okay,
17:34
we're making we're laughing at it. But as people gain
17:37
a little more perspective.
17:38
Speaker 2
Like it's like the funniest fucking thing.
17:41
Speaker 1
But whatever, you know, I hope, I hope he has
17:44
a contract. This is why you can't just be out
17:46
here making fucking agreements based on how many awards you win.
17:50
Speaker 4
You should your serious contract with your significant other.
17:53
Speaker 2
I've saying that from day one.
17:56
Speaker 4
Exactly under penalty of death. After watching some of those
18:02
Stephen Crowder household ring videos, I realized that you need, yeah,
18:07
shit locked up.
18:08
Speaker 2
That's where it's It's like you're flying too.
18:10
Speaker 1
Close to gross real shit, I think is the thing, right?
18:15
But whatever, I mean, Well, it's funny because, as you
18:18
said that, the thing I was focused on the whole
18:19
time was Jeremy Strong because.
18:21
Speaker 2
He didn't this motherfucker's probably dying inside.
18:25
Speaker 1
And I remember, right after they cut away from Kieran
18:27
Colkin leaving the stage, they showed Jeremy Strong.
18:31
Speaker 2
And it was funny. My dad was was over too.
18:34
Speaker 1
We were watching and we both went, oh.
18:37
Speaker 2
You're not happy, and then her Magsy's like, what we're like, yo.
18:39
Speaker 1
Jeremy Strong looked fucking upset, and I rewound it and
18:43
ro like, he just looks like he's like looking off.
18:45
I'm like, no, no, you can see the hurt in
18:47
his eyes. He looked he is still processing that loss.
18:51
But I think that just me projecting more shit onto
18:54
Jeremy Strong than I probably should have.
18:55
Speaker 2
Yeah.
18:56
Speaker 4
There's also the songwriter who has been nominale It did
19:00
like so many times, Diane Warren. I think, is that
19:03
that's not her name? Diane Warren?
19:06
Speaker 2
Is it okay? Yeah?
19:08
Speaker 4
She she had a tough like accepting that she lost face.
19:15
Speaker 2
Experience that got you gotta feel for him. It's tough gig.
19:20
Just like.
19:21
Speaker 4
You can kind of like no, no, like overt like
19:24
what the fuck face, but like just you can kind
19:27
of see the blood drained from her face a little bit.
19:30
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, he shout out to her. She's from the valley.
19:33
There you go.
19:34
Speaker 4
All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back
19:36
and we'll we'll talk about that uh Trump Zelensky meeting,
19:41
the that that happened the end of last week, right
19:45
after we recorded our last episode.
19:49
Speaker 2
Yeah, well, we'll be right back.
20:00
Speaker 4
And we're back. We're we're back, So I mean, yeah,
20:08
Tru Trump Zolensky, jd Vance the Vance.
20:12
Speaker 1
Dance, Marjorie Taylor Green's boyfriend, Marjorie Taylor Green's boyfriend all
20:17
ganged up on, you know, wartime president Voldemir Zelenski.
20:23
Speaker 2
Is that how you pronounce this vl? You about to
20:26
say voldemorre Voldemort Zelensky.
20:28
Speaker 4
But basically it was, you know, Zelensky came in the
20:32
press was set up and it felt like it was
20:35
it was a setup, you know.
20:37
Speaker 2
Oh yeah.
20:37
Speaker 4
They Trump and Vance were just like waiting for him
20:42
to say anything that they could just jump on. Zelenski
20:46
obviously was pushing back on their narrative that like the
20:50
whole war was his fault and uh that Russia was
20:53
good and can be trusted.
20:55
Speaker 1
They hold on, they invaded, They Russia invaded Ukraine.
20:59
Speaker 4
You sound like you should be more grateful, is what
21:02
we're hearing.
21:04
Speaker 1
I feel like a Henley in here full like but
21:07
you wear in like a suit.
21:08
Speaker 2
Bruh, what's uh? You look really like district Like fuck it.
21:13
Speaker 4
They really like Trump did mention at the beginning. They
21:16
like were nagging him from the beginning. They're like, thank
21:19
you for getting dressed up for the occasion.
21:22
Speaker 2
Moving along, but I think he's dressed beautifully.
21:25
Speaker 4
You look like shit, No, no, you're great. It's great,
21:28
You're beautiful. But the other comment like kind of dashed
21:32
off comment at the end was where he was like
21:35
closing the thing and he was like, I I'm assuming
21:38
this was really good television, which I think is just
21:41
like that is his instinct, like anybody who's like he's
21:44
got a great instinct for like deal making and negotiating,
21:48
and you know, I don't think so. I think his
21:50
instinct is for reality television. It's and like creating moments
21:55
that are going to make for good TV that he
21:57
would want to watch to.
21:58
Speaker 2
Get a little youth to active you some ute vernacular,
22:03
some gen z verneki. He is a master of crashing out,
22:06
you know what I mean.
22:07
Speaker 1
He is that master of the crash out to make
22:10
very entertaining like public crashouts.
22:13
Speaker 2
That's what and that because that's what that was to
22:14
see this.
22:16
Speaker 1
Weird like the bully and then the Bully's weird little
22:19
friend who JD.
22:20
Speaker 2
Vance was like, yeah, get them, get them, get them, get.
22:23
Speaker 1
Them Donald like that weird dynamic, and Zelynsky's in there
22:27
basically being like, so I'm fighting off an invading army.
22:31
You motherfuckers said you were gonna give me security assurances.
22:34
Now you're trying to get me to sign some fucking
22:36
weird ass minerals deal with no security security.
22:40
Speaker 2
No fucking security assurances. What the fuck do what do
22:44
I look like signing this ship right now? And what
22:47
who the fuck do you think you guys are thinking
22:49
you can put this shit in front of me and
22:50
think I'm like, oh my god, I love it, thank
22:52
you so much.
22:54
Speaker 1
They're like fighting for their fucking existence and this is
22:57
what's happening.
22:58
Speaker 2
I can't. Like. It was very It was so hard
23:01
to watch because you're like, holy, just like the America
23:04
completely becoming like this other thing now just before everyone's eyes,
23:08
trying to be like you better watch out. Like when
23:11
it got to the boys, like you got to know
23:12
your you don't have a good hand, you don't have
23:14
good cards. You got to know your hand you've got.
23:18
I'm not playing a game, motherfucker. What are you talking about?
23:21
Speaker 1
He's like, you know what you get your you're risking
23:24
World War three and you're risky world War three. Like
23:29
he just kept escalating rhetorically again because he just wants
23:33
to have It's just became this scene this like circus
23:36
on yeah yeah, and it's just the whole thing was
23:39
just very, very difficult to watch. And then the internet
23:44
with like you know, the Speed of Light just started
23:47
making all these fucking memes. You see the ones where
23:49
they were playing like stratigo or like whatever.
23:52
Speaker 2
That other or whatever just by a door.
23:55
Speaker 1
Yeah, it was just like ha ha ha, but no,
23:59
it is is kind of what's happening here.
24:02
Speaker 2
Yeah.
24:03
Speaker 4
Also, like for all the like Trump supposedly being a populist,
24:08
the popular opinion of Putin is pretty fucking unfavorable.
24:12
Speaker 2
Like that that.
24:13
Speaker 4
Seems to be one place where the real comfortable stepping
24:16
out of line with like popular opinion. Ninety percent of
24:18
Americans at least in twenty twenty three thought he was
24:22
extremely untrustworthy. Specifically, there's like a pull that says that
24:27
and I don't.
24:29
Speaker 2
Yeah, so I don't know.
24:29
Speaker 4
It's not like this is coming from some popular grounds
24:32
well as with like all of his policies. Uh, it's
24:34
coming from somewhere else, I guess.
24:36
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's coming from Vladimir fucking Putin, dude.
24:40
Speaker 1
Like it's so obvious that at this point it's like
24:44
the fucking news really needs to fucking wake the fuck up,
24:46
and this is crazy.
24:48
Speaker 4
That was the other like big takeaway is they were like, uh,
24:52
you know, Zelenski lost his cool and like that he
24:55
really fucked himself there and not yeah, just being what
25:00
and like, I also saw people being like and obviously
25:02
Trump is doing this because he thinks that Russia will
25:06
be a good ally against China and like making kind
25:09
of what rationalizations, Yeah, making rationalizations that don't really make
25:14
sense for his behavior.
25:16
Speaker 2
Well, they try and do the thing.
25:18
Speaker 1
Rather than like be a little bit giving people context
25:21
about how this completely goes against the order of things
25:24
or whatever, they try and do this thing where it's
25:26
like trying to understand where he's coming from with them, yes,
25:30
even if it makes no fucking sense, and they don't
25:33
even say, like, but that doesn't make any fucking sense
25:35
because X, Y and Z they don't do that shit.
25:38
They're just like this, I think this is what he's
25:39
thinking to again pretend like they're doing journalism, but also
25:44
just zero pushback in manufacturing consent. And again, this whole
25:48
meeting was supposed to be around this fucking deal that
25:51
was going to be made. The deal in this instance
25:53
was Ukraine would allow for like five hundred billion dollars
25:56
in rare earth metals to be extracted where they get
25:59
like a measly cut of profits in exchange again for
26:03
no fucking security assurances and not even a commitment to
26:07
having a.
26:07
Speaker 2
Ceasefire, just none of that. It's like, give me that
26:10
and you'll be okay.
26:11
Speaker 1
How and again, this deal, of course, was untenable for
26:15
Zolenski because he wants fucking security assurances because he's fighting
26:20
invading army, and the deal is so unrealistic for two
26:25
really big points. A. Right, we haven't the five hundred
26:28
billion thing it's supposed to be like to repay all
26:30
the stuff we've given you. We haven't even given them
26:32
close to five hundred billion worth of arms.
26:35
Speaker 4
Right, We're not even the biggest supporter of their military effort,
26:40
like they're Western European countries that have supported them more.
26:43
Speaker 1
The fact is we just dusted off some old shit
26:47
that we had, just old killing toys, and we say,
26:50
oh yeah, y'all could have them. And that five hundred
26:53
that amount that we say we're sending, No, that's for
26:56
us to buy shiny, new fucking kill toys. That's not
27:00
because here's the money. We're like, oh yeah, you could
27:02
have that, You could have that. You know what I'm
27:04
gonna replace. I'm gonna replace that Hi Mars system anyway
27:07
with some news there's some new shit out. I really
27:08
want that, So yeah, y'all could take that. That's how
27:11
like this transaction is working. So it's not like they're
27:14
on the hook for a half trillion dollars. Then would
27:18
the rare earth metals part. We don't even know if
27:21
there is enough rare earth metals in the ground in
27:24
Ukraine that would even total five hundred billion dollars? Like
27:27
that amount even baffles the commodities and geology expert community
27:32
who know about like, they're like, what is he like,
27:34
they're even from that perspective, what is he talking about?
27:36
This is a write up from like a commodities newsletter.
27:40
First of all, it says most estimates for twenty twenty
27:42
four stand at four billion to twelve and a half
27:45
billion globally in terms of sales of rare metals. The
27:49
global market right at the low end is four at
27:52
the high end twelve and a half. So it said
27:54
it would therefore be astonishing for Ukraine to conjure up
27:57
five hundred.
27:58
Speaker 2
Billion dollars under a bill.
28:00
Speaker 1
Then this other thing it is also this is again
28:02
from the same article. It is also notable that even
28:04
during the most recent rare earth metal price boom, which
28:07
ran from late twenty twenty to March of twenty twenty
28:09
two and saw exploration companies enthusiastically snap up and try
28:13
to develop new supply sources around the world.
28:15
Speaker 2
No one made a play for Ukraine.
28:18
Speaker 1
Right, that's even predating the war, right, Like, there's just
28:21
not it's just not something that's on the radar. So
28:24
I think again, Trump goes on to be like, well,
28:26
it's a great deal because his logic here is that
28:29
all the American commercial mining companies that would be in
28:32
Ukraine would act as a deterrent because Russia wouldn't dare
28:35
attack and risk harming Americans in Ukraine and risking war.
28:40
It's like, bro, they're not going to attack because they
28:42
got what they wanted through this dumb fucking deal.
28:44
Speaker 2
It's not because of the presence of it.
28:46
Speaker 1
Like the America is not gonna do shit, So stop
28:48
pretending that that's the position America is gonna take. And
28:51
it just feels like terrible negotiating and like bad fascist
28:55
improv Like clearly Trump was told by Putin just fucking
28:59
makes it go away and make them weaker so I
29:02
can take my depleted army back home, and like we
29:05
can have some kind of a win here, and to
29:07
achieve the alienation of Zelensky, Trump goes for this weird
29:11
ass minerals deal that makes no sense and just ends
29:14
up having the effect of strengthening European alliances because after
29:17
that they're like, oh shit, yeah, you know, Zelensky went
29:21
to the UK and Starmar's like, bro, we gotta We're
29:24
gonna have to figure out how to do this shit
29:25
without the crash out crew in DC. And Trump can't
29:30
just announce okay bye by Ukraine because he needs the pretext,
29:34
no matter how flimsy, to not look like a Russian asset.
29:38
So his idea to create this pretext is just like
29:41
this untenable deal, So then he can be like, well,
29:43
I tried to help it, but he just wouldn't take
29:44
the deal, so therefore I need it.
29:47
Speaker 2
Seems like they're like really just going along with that. Yeah.
29:50
Speaker 1
So again, if like if the improv suggestion from Putin
29:53
to Trump is this scene is about cut ties with Zelenski,
29:57
then Trump just started the improv scene by saying, let
30:00
me have sex.
30:01
Speaker 2
With all of your ghosts or else I never what
30:04
the fuck? What huh?
30:07
Speaker 1
But yeah, like you say, Washington Post rip fully to
30:11
that fucking place with these op eds they're putting out now,
30:14
it's like absurd.
30:16
Speaker 2
Yeah, they just put out on op ed.
30:18
Speaker 4
Zelensky must mend the breach with Trump or resign from
30:22
Mark A season, which I don't know. Is that like
30:25
an anagram for Lindsay Graham or is that? But yeah,
30:31
this should have been a backslapping, feel good meeting celebrating
30:35
the minerals deal. Unfortunately it was a terrible deal for Zelensky,
30:40
so he was not feeling good for some reason.
30:43
Speaker 1
Who was a nie slapper because it was so fucking
30:46
absurd of a deal. Not a backslapper because we're gonna
30:49
feel good. Yeah, just says go, Like the this whole
30:53
like Mark Theeson I think is a bush.
30:55
Speaker 2
I think a speech writer or something. He's from the era.
30:58
But like even him trying to act like this is good,
31:01
it's just so disorienting. Yeah.
31:05
Speaker 1
Anyway, the billionaire capture of our media has just led
31:08
to a fun toilet bowl ride down to hell for everyone.
31:12
Speaker 4
Yeah, it's really wild as far as what people think,
31:16
Like I mentioned, there's been pulling that suggests that you know,
31:19
ninety percent of Americans for some reason find Vladimir Putin untrustworthy.
31:25
I don't know what their deal is, must be hangover
31:27
from the Cold War, just some other evidence that this
31:31
is not a popular position. So right after this where JD.
31:36
Vance was kind of the instigator. He was like the
31:41
first person. But first of all, you should thank our
31:44
president and wash his feet with your hair.
31:47
Speaker 2
Okay, that's his thing.
31:50
Speaker 4
He give him gold, gifts of gold, and you know
31:53
he's not that into Franken CENSORR.
31:56
Speaker 2
But he was.
31:56
Speaker 4
He was so annoyed that, you know, Zelen Ski and
32:01
you know, putting up big, big dick energy in the room.
32:04
And then he Johnson off to a ski vacation with
32:07
his family in Vermont, and it did not go well.
32:13
Hundreds of protesters showed up to line the streets, some
32:17
with some pretty devastating signage such as vance skis and
32:21
jeans the worst thing you can do. I mean, I
32:26
play pickup ball in jean shorts.
32:28
Speaker 2
But that's just me. I guess you're not supposed to
32:31
ski in jeans. You want to show off your legs.
32:34
I got to show off them them you just saying
32:36
they look better and cutoffs.
32:39
Speaker 4
Exactly got to show off the thighs, baby, but they
32:44
he even got hassled as he was skiing, as if
32:48
it were some common visiting dignitary.
32:52
Speaker 2
Uh.
32:53
Speaker 4
Heuh had to be moved to an undisclosed location. But
32:58
one person really took him out but like almost ran
33:02
into him on the slopes, and another one called him
33:04
Putin's puppet on the mountain.
33:08
Speaker 2
Yeah, so great.
33:09
Speaker 1
It looked like I've saw clips on Reddit of like
33:11
just like the cluster fuck. It look like having just
33:16
secret service and him skiing and like other people like
33:19
what like hating this guy.
33:21
Speaker 2
It just felt like a fucking nightmare.
33:23
Speaker 1
But I just love how again, like Fox and Friends,
33:26
the media comes to his defense.
33:29
Speaker 5
And they're like, bro, this should not be They should
33:31
leave him alone, you know, they should just like he's
33:35
with his family. Quote, I think his family should be
33:37
off limits, says the lady from Real World from fucking
33:40
forty years ago.
33:41
Speaker 2
Thanks.
33:43
Speaker 4
Also, skiing vacations are where like billionaire power broker like
33:48
clash with the blue collar ski workers and the like townies.
33:53
That's what they taught us anything, This is exactly where
33:57
this should be happening.
33:58
Speaker 1
Yeah, I'm surprised jd answers so like into that kind
34:01
of media would know.
34:02
Speaker 2
It's like, the last place I need to go is
34:04
a ski resort. They're gonna prank me.
34:09
Speaker 4
I mean, there were the strikes earlier this year. It's
34:12
a hotbed of class tension. So yeah, shit, perfect place
34:17
for him to go immediately after, you know, pissing off
34:22
the American people with a wildly unpopular take.
34:26
Speaker 1
Well's always yeah, there's I always see these like sort
34:28
of screen caps of like comment sections, and half seem real,
34:32
the other half seemed like bots. But there are like
34:34
definitely a group of confused boomer conservatives who are like, nah,
34:40
I'm pretty sure I was raised to hate everything Russian
34:44
from birth.
34:45
Speaker 2
Is what is this?
34:47
Speaker 1
And I don't understand what what we get out of it?
34:50
It's like yeah, yeah, explain it, Yeah, yeah, for sure.
34:55
Speaker 4
Also, there was a blind item that suggested that again
35:00
you know, blind item, no way to corroborate this as
35:04
of yet, similar to the couch fucking it just fits,
35:08
you know, just fits his personality, his energy always what
35:11
he tried to a chairlift, He tried to fuck it. No,
35:14
somebody said I skied at sugar Bush in Vermont today.
35:17
Guess who is here? None other than are Steven Vice
35:20
president jd Vance, half of Central Vermont, was out in
35:23
the streets protesting him. It was hilarious. The loser couldn't
35:26
even get off the chairlift. He went around the bowl
35:29
wheel and they had to shut it down so secret
35:31
Service could get him off the chair. I'm not kidding,
35:34
true story. Fucking Jerry of the Day. I don't even
35:39
know what Jerry means.
35:41
Speaker 1
Dude, that's like a pejorative nickname for people who don't
35:45
belong people, yeah, who.
35:46
Speaker 2
Aren't like real skiers, like they were jeans and ski.
35:48
There's a very big Instagram account that just shows like
35:52
ski fails like that. I think it's called Jerry of
35:53
the Day.
35:54
Speaker 1
But honestly, misinformation about jd Vance is louds harmless misinforma ever.
36:00
So yeah, he I think we need to add to that.
36:03
It's because he tried to have sex with you.
36:04
Speaker 4
He was trying to fuck the chairlift as he was
36:06
going up. It is very couch adjacent, you know, it's
36:10
they call it a chairlift, but it's more like a
36:12
metal couch.
36:13
Speaker 2
But yeah, three across, you know. Yeah, all right, let's
36:18
let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
36:20
Speaker 4
We'll talk anything we missed on the oscars up top.
36:23
Speaker 2
We'll be right back and we're back. We're back.
36:35
Speaker 4
By the way, Brian was pointing us to a Reddit thread.
36:38
Brian the Editor was pointing us to the reddit thread
36:40
that this just seems anecdotally, it seems like this Zelensky
36:44
stuff is unpopular. I mean it, like it's a good
36:47
point that the Ukraine War effort, Ukrainian War effort was
36:52
like extremely popular for probably like it goes with the
36:57
grain of white supremacy in America. You know, it's like
37:01
white people being like those people look just like me.
37:04
Like that's so yeah, it's it'll be interesting to see
37:08
how Trump supporters respond to this whole thing going going
37:14
side with m Yeah, although it is what a lot
37:18
a lot of the shit he does is like it
37:20
is what the Democratic Party has been doing and just
37:24
all American policy has been doing. He just does it
37:26
like real, uh, openly and stupidly.
37:31
Speaker 2
Yeah.
37:31
Speaker 1
Well, because I think there's most Americans are kind of
37:34
diluted into thinking we're still trying to do good right,
37:37
where like, bro, we're not trying to do that, bro,
37:40
what we're talking about it And I mean not to
37:45
say that like like get real everyone, it's been this
37:47
bad forever. But like that's sort of like the difference
37:49
is sort of not even trying to hide this self dealing.
37:53
Speaker 4
Not even trying to play politics in any in any way.
37:57
Speaker 2
Guys, just hide the self dealing a little bit, right,
38:01
and we'll go along with anything, all right?
38:03
Speaker 4
Oscars watched them out of out of one eye while
38:08
doing other stuff.
38:09
Speaker 2
But would you happen? Yeah, my eyes are fucked now
38:15
just watching that Sixers win over the Warriors on loop.
38:18
Oh my god, man.
38:19
Speaker 4
Just when I want they lost, like ten in a row,
38:23
shut down and be for the year nine nine in
38:27
a row shut down and b for the year.
38:28
Speaker 2
It's time.
38:29
Speaker 4
It's losing time, baby, It's time to lose the rest
38:32
of our games and just you know, shut it down,
38:36
try and get the best draft pick we can in
38:38
the seventy. Six Ers, of course win, just when they
38:40
need to start focusing on losing. Weird weird league fans
38:44
who people who aren't fans of the NBA probably like,
38:46
what are well adjusted you want your team?
38:49
Speaker 2
Yeah? Or well adjusted?
38:50
Speaker 1
I mean like I went to I went like I
38:52
don't care about nothing, and now I'm like, yeah, bro,
38:54
we're winning the fucking championship this year. Yeah, just fucking
38:57
you like it. I don't care how many people get injured. No,
38:59
we're not, but anyway I want to see. I did
39:01
feel like a winner, though, because I famously only saw
39:05
one movie that was in contention for awards, and guess
39:08
what it was fucking Honora. So I felt like so
39:11
in tune with the awards because I.
39:15
Speaker 2
I didn't know.
39:16
Speaker 1
I thought that I didn't know The Brutalist was about
39:18
brutalist architecture.
39:20
Speaker 2
He thought it was just about a guy who is mean.
39:22
Speaker 1
I just thought I didn't read a single word. I
39:26
saw like an emaciated Adrian Brody. I said, I don't
39:28
know what some sad Eastern European ship. I don't know
39:31
what the fuck they're talking about. This is kind of
39:33
where I went with it. But yeah, when was the
39:36
last time a fucking guy what's the guys named Dave Foster?
39:40
Speaker 2
What's his name? Dave Sean Baker, Sean.
39:46
Speaker 1
Dave Foster, the fucking composer, the that because he went
39:51
Best Screenplay, Editing Director, Best Picture. He he he sort
39:56
of won four out of the five awards that they
39:59
won that single handed, when not saying one of the.
40:02
Speaker 4
Four like big ones that he was nominated for. It's
40:05
never really happened before Disney has won more Oscars in
40:09
a single year.
40:11
Speaker 2
But that was like not it wasn't like.
40:14
Speaker 4
Best Picture, Best Director, Best Screenplay, Best that just.
40:17
Speaker 1
Seems wild to get Screenplay, Editor, Director, Like on the
40:21
individual merits, I was like, that's pretty impressive.
40:26
Speaker 4
I mean they made a point of emphasizing this when
40:28
they won. But like this movie had a budget of
40:30
six million dollars, Like it was a pretty small like
40:34
that's how you get somebody who's like doing all those things,
40:37
I think largely, although I think I think Christopher Nolan
40:40
also like does a lot of the shit. But yeah, yeah, sure, sure, yeah, Sodaberg,
40:44
I think it is kind of like that. But had
40:46
a budget of six million dollars. Four of the last
40:48
five winners had like really low budgets. Nomadland, Coda, Everything
40:53
everywhere all at once, now Anora. That's like eighty percent
40:57
of the last five years best picture winners. You know,
41:00
obviously Oppenheimer was a huge movie that destroyed last year's Oscars,
41:05
But like, I don't know, we talked about this as
41:08
like Hollywood.
41:10
Speaker 2
And like corporate thinking.
41:12
Speaker 4
Netflix COVID a lot of different things like kind of
41:16
conspired to fuck up studio movies, and like we were
41:20
like there's probably a new wave of like independent movies
41:25
coming and that at least seems to be happening.
41:28
Speaker 2
If you look at like who's who's winning Best Picture.
41:31
Speaker 1
Well that's where like you'd hope the corporate thinking goes
41:34
hold on, dude, like these like weird stories and I
41:37
call them weird because they're not based on IP that
41:39
we own, right, It's like.
41:40
Speaker 2
Weird little stories are coming up. People like those better.
41:43
So I guess maybe we just do more of those.
41:45
And they're cheaper, so maybe we just make a fuck
41:47
ton of these. I don't Yeah, maybe not, I don't know.
41:49
Speaker 4
The only real IP movies that were like close to
41:52
winning were obviously Dune, Wicked, and then Conclave, which optioned
41:57
the the Pope Cinematic Universe Anymore did not win was
42:02
expected to win. I think was like one of the
42:03
biggest favorites heading in to the night like that category
42:07
was basically seen as a as a.
42:09
Speaker 2
Lock damn that she looked a little crust fallen. Yeah
42:14
when they showed after, like Mikey Madison had accepted also
42:17
from the Valley. Shoutowt Mikey Madison, shout out the Valley.
42:19
The Valley is just yeah.
42:22
Speaker 1
We're just the people on the fucking fringe brow. We're
42:24
not the fucking West Side, but guess what we're out here.
42:28
I remember that her Majesty was like, is that her boyfriend?
42:31
Speaker 2
I was like, no, that's shit. They look related.
42:33
Speaker 1
And then when she got her the redhead, she was with, yeah,
42:36
and she's like my twin brother, Miles.
42:38
Speaker 2
I was like, oh, they're related.
42:41
Speaker 4
There you go. Yeah, that was cute. She has a
42:44
twin brother. She's like, you're my best friend, not the
42:46
US A choice.
42:47
Speaker 2
That acceptance speech, like was really interesting. I've only know
42:51
Mikey Madison through her performances.
42:53
Speaker 1
To see how different obviously, I'm like, she wasn't even
42:57
on noor when she went up there, but like.
43:00
Speaker 2
You got a real and that's where you know she's
43:02
an actor. You got a real taste for like her
43:04
actual character.
43:05
Speaker 1
And I'm like, damn, she was spitting like as a
43:07
Nora because she was truly like there was a.
43:10
Speaker 2
Humility, just a teenager.
43:13
Speaker 4
When she went up there, She's like, oh my god,
43:15
this is crazy.
43:16
Speaker 2
Yeah.
43:16
Speaker 4
Yeah, she just seemed really young and anyway, Adrian Brodie
43:21
baby best Actor for a second time. People noted that
43:26
as he was taking the stage, she took his gum
43:27
out of his mouth and threw it at his partner.
43:30
To his partner, some would say, Georgina Chapman.
43:33
Speaker 2
Wait he did? Oh? Is that what was going on?
43:35
I was like, what the you have? Like a lipper
43:36
in or something? Be way better loose. It's not even
43:43
like a fucking pouch.
43:44
Speaker 4
Just all right, put that in my gatorade bottle under
43:50
my seat.
43:52
Speaker 2
You could have just spit it into your Gatorade bottle.
43:55
Speaker 1
I don't want him to see I spit into a
43:57
Gatorade bottle. Okay, it's embarrassing and they can see all
44:00
the spit. It's the clear bottle.
44:01
Speaker 2
Okay. Good for him.
44:03
Speaker 4
His partner is he shout out his partner and her kids,
44:08
who are now I guess his step kids. His partner
44:11
is Harvey Weinstein's ex wife, so like those, he's shouting
44:15
out like Harvey Weinstein's children from the stage, which damn okay,
44:20
Russell will insisting, piece of interesting, piece of context. Yeah
44:26
all right, jam said, so, no matter how much gum
44:29
he throws at her Adrian Brodie will never be her
44:31
shittiest romantic partner.
44:35
Speaker 1
We talked about I'm surprising to have my shirt. He's like,
44:37
I'm not the step father that's stepped up.
44:41
Speaker 2
That's right. How you like that, Harvey? And then it's like, yo, wait,
44:44
don't shout him out. Okay, that's right.
44:47
Speaker 4
So just going along with the like indie element of
44:51
the whole thing. The movie Flow one for Best Animated
44:55
Feature against Inside Out two I think was nominated, and
45:00
the good robot Wild Robot, which was also nominated.
45:05
Speaker 2
I really liked Wild Robot. I thought that was good.
45:07
Speaker 4
I haven't seen Flow, but JM was pointing out that
45:12
it is like another example of like independent. It was
45:16
made for three point seven million dollars by a Lotvian
45:19
director using free, open source animation software that basically anyone
45:24
can use on a lot Yeah.
45:26
Speaker 1
Well, Inside Out to cost two hundred million dollars to make,
45:29
so yeah, so your movie sucks okay.
45:34
Speaker 2
Fuck yeah? Wow three point seven million is that's pretty
45:39
remark that's wild. Yeah. Good for the yo.
45:41
Speaker 1
So when no other land one for Best Feature Documentary,
45:45
and we talked on the show about how they were
45:47
still I'm pretty I feel. I don't know if anything's changed,
45:50
but up till the awards, they had not secured any
45:53
American distribution for this documentary that's talking about what's happening
45:57
in the occupied West Bank. Yeah, my fucking step mom
46:02
sat on the remote inadvertently and muted the TV.
46:06
Speaker 2
But we didn't realize.
46:07
Speaker 4
You thought they were like cutting their mic.
46:10
Speaker 2
Yeah, I said, you know what, And I went up
46:12
there and go what the fuck is going on? And
46:13
everyone was like there's no there's no sound. Wow.
46:16
Speaker 1
I'm like, what the wait what I'm like hell, no, hell,
46:19
And I'm like no, no, no, no, no no.
46:21
Speaker 2
And then she's like, oh, wait, hold on, the remote
46:24
is here, and then I hit the mute button and
46:26
it came back on. I was like, oh.
46:28
Speaker 1
For a second, I was like, bro, I was not
46:31
ready to fucking fully go across the rubicon into like
46:34
and now you will not hear anything that goes against
46:37
the wheels of the American Empire. Yeah, but yeah, that
46:40
was also. Yeah, it was wild to have like that
46:43
moment be where you could hear some of the realist
46:45
shit being talked, because from what I saw, like none
46:48
of the people that won for Amelia Prez ever like
46:51
mentioned the trans community like in their acceptance speeches.
46:55
Speaker 2
Yeah, I don't like.
46:57
Speaker 1
We're at a pretty critical juncture here and being able
47:00
to like stand up for marginalized people.
47:02
Speaker 2
Yeah, but yeah, that was that was a that was
47:05
a big speech. Yeah.
47:06
Speaker 4
They specifically called for an end to the ethnic cleansing
47:09
of the Palestinian people and also called a US foreign
47:14
policy that's helping to block a political solution without ethnic supremacy.
47:19
And yeah, I mean we're so far from the US
47:22
not doing that that US is blocking this movie from
47:25
like getting distribution.
47:28
Speaker 1
Yeah, we don't like the harsh reality of our foreign
47:31
policy because I think that's what they said. It's like,
47:34
and the foreign policy of this country is actually preventing it.
47:38
It was interesting to see like some people would stood
47:41
up when they won.
47:42
Speaker 2
Other people seemed firmly planted in their seats. But hey,
47:47
it is what it is, because we don't want to
47:50
bring too much sunlight onto a situation like that. But
47:53
I think most people clearly understand how powerful the message
47:57
and how important the story is because it won. Yeah,
48:00
I will say so.
48:02
Speaker 4
Another place that people are probably saying it is what
48:05
it is this morning is Hulu because they were streaming
48:11
the Oscars for the first time, and they they missed
48:15
the open wicked performance by Cynthia Revo and Ariana Grande.
48:21
Really also missed Conan's monologue wait, like.
48:25
Speaker 2
It just wasn't part of the stream, like they were
48:27
just greeted it.
48:28
Speaker 4
I feel like it was like being handled by like
48:32
a fifty something guy, you know. It was like, oh shit,
48:36
I didn't even realize the Oscars were on. They also
48:38
like cut out during the Best Actress category informing viewers
48:42
that the show was over, and then someone had to
48:45
be like, yo, you do like you you have to
48:47
like add extra time. You can't just like have it
48:49
cut off at the time. They say, that's pretty standard
48:52
for anyone who's ever used a DVR, right, And then
48:55
it happened again during the Best Picture announcement. They're like,
48:58
all right, right now, it's got to be over right.
49:01
Speaker 2
So I don't know.
49:02
Speaker 4
For this and many other reasons, I have a hard
49:05
time believing that one billion people watched the show, which
49:09
was mentioned multiple times that a billion people around the
49:13
world were watching it. US ratings have been around like
49:17
sixteen million people in the past couple of years. I
49:20
think they got as low as eleven during the pandemic,
49:24
but seems like that, you know, eleven to sixteen in
49:30
the US. That's like that's your base right there, Like
49:33
that's who would be watching.
49:34
Speaker 2
That's that right? I don't know that you're gonna yeah. Yeah.
49:39
Speaker 4
Brian pointed out that a billion people would be everyone
49:42
in America and Europe, just every single person on both comes.
49:47
Speaker 1
We can only get we can only add three hundred
49:48
million to that pot, you know what I mean?
49:50
Speaker 2
Yeah, that's exactly what.
49:52
Speaker 1
Let's see, like what the World Cup probably didn't even
49:55
get close to whatever. I mean, clearly, that's like one
49:58
of those Oniony type jokes where.
50:00
Speaker 2
People were like, I think so, and then you think
50:02
of any like a fucking way A billion people watch this? Right?
50:05
Speaker 1
That only bluster Like they said sixteen, So that's up
50:09
from previous years.
50:10
Speaker 2
We don't know.
50:11
Speaker 4
Last year was sixteen, but last year also had uh
50:15
Oppenheimer and Barbie like the two oh yeah yeah, the
50:19
past couple of years vying so I think, and like
50:22
a musical number by Ryan Gosling and stuff like that.
50:25
Though I think it's probably this one. If I had
50:28
to guess, this one will be slightly down.
50:30
Speaker 1
But yeah, whatever, I mean it's it was going to
50:32
see like the charts of like just the dwindling interest
50:36
in the I'm just curious if someone can map like
50:40
wage stagnation and inequality with waning interest in stuff where
50:45
wealthy people do backslapper times and giggle fests. Yeah, just
50:50
think I think there might be something there.
50:53
Speaker 2
Hm hmm.
50:54
Speaker 1
It's easier when you could trick yourself and be like
50:56
and I might one day be in that class.
50:59
Speaker 2
Of people or something. Shit like. It's about aspiration. We're like,
51:01
I feel like now you're just like, fuck all this ship.
51:05
Speaker 4
Yeah, all right, well those are some of the things
51:08
that are trending on this Monday morning. We are back
51:11
tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then,
51:15
be kind to each other, be kind to yourself, get
51:18
your vaccines way you still can't get your flu shots.
51:21
Speaker 2
I don't know if you hear the JFRFK Junior. He's
51:24
back on board.
51:25
Speaker 4
So yeah, this is this message brought to you by
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RFK Junior. He says vaccines are good.
51:29
Speaker 2
Vaccine good, vaccine good, but still don't.
51:31
Speaker 4
Do nothing about white supremacy. Not brought to you by
51:33
anyone in the Trump administration. That wore, and we will
51:37
talk to you tomorrow. Bye bye