There’s more news and less comprehension today than any historical period that didn’t involve literal witch trials, and trying to stay on top of it all can feel like playing a game of telephone with 30 people, except everyone’s speaking at the same time and like a third of them are openly racist for some reason. From Cracked co-founder Jack O’Brien, THE DAILY ZEITGEIST is stepping into that fray with some of the funniest and smartest comedic and journalistic minds around. Jack and co-host Miles Gray spend up to an hour every weekday sorting through the events and stories driving the headlines, to help you find the signal in the noise, with a few laughs thrown in for free.
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-the-daily-zeitgeist-28516718/
episode 1: Crooning Crustaceans & Other Singing Animals 07.11.22
In episode 1284, Jack and guest co-host DJ Danl are joined by comedians and hosts of Truth Hounds, Kyle Mizono and Anna Seregina to discuss.....
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Speaker 1
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to forty five,
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Episode one of jed Hi Guys High Heart Radio. This
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is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
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America's shared consciousness. It's Monday, July eleven. My name is
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What is going on with this co host that I
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got for today is he's doing the most and can't
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simply coffee miles. It's about standard expanding, Uh new new
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ship like like echoes. Uh, what's the first thing you
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did called like a chant monk chant? Sure? Yeah, Well
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my name is Jack O'Brien, a k Macha macha man.
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For get coffee. I'm a matcha man, Macha macha man
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ing Guatemala. There's no macha man that those are courtesy of.
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So those two a ks it came in within moments
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of one another. Christi Ambucci min gave me the first one.
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Chris Mackling even more topical second one. Shout out to
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two great months thinking of like, well done, appreciate y'all.
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I'm thrilled to be joined by a very special guest
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co host, one of the EPs on this very network,
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former EP of this show. Uh, he is the king
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of staying that bitch on twitch. It's DJ Dan Old
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good Man. Here a k a botta bengas bought a Bungus,
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a phrase that I'm positive I didn't make up, but
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maybe I did. Who the heck knows. Anyway, it's a
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pleasure to be here, Jack. How you doing? Wait did
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you say that? Like two days ago on on the show?
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You said, boy the Bengas literally all the time. And
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I don't know where it came from, but I just
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know it's like a John Lennon scrambled Eggs moment where
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I'm just like, I know I didn't make up the smellody.
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I know I didn't make up this phrase. Someone please
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be like from what the few us were talking about? Man,
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I think I do, but you just said it, You
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just like mentioned it so casually that uh yeah, I was.
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I was confused. But anyways, you know how podcasts, by
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mentioning someone will indirectly kill them. Um, I think you
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might have been the reason James conduct because he invented
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the phrase botta bying. You invented the phrase botta bingis
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bata bungus And yeah, he ad libbed that on the
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set of the Godfather and then the Mafia took it
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and was like, yeah, we've always said that ship but
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he he had libbed it. Um, I did not know
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that at all. What wow? Yeah. Anyways, by two very
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funny comedians whose work has appeared on lesser shows like
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This American Life, that Drew Barrymore show. H They are
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the lead investigators and hosts of Truth Hounds, which just
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dropped last was those season two? UM and your podcast Yeah,
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just one of the best podcasts that's ever been made.
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UM it is the hilarious and talented Kyle Amazona and
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Anna Saragena sandwich Man. Al Right, I knew something was coming.
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You had that crazy looking your really was holding that in.
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Another hit is coming, Another hit is coming down the pipe.
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I did not tell Anna, so I really started for
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taking that moment, but I was really hold up, Look,
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it was great, It was really nice, and I want
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to uphold your life. Kyle. I do wanna apologize because
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I do. I don't have the vocal talents to put
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equal emphasis on two names. So I did kind of
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go a Amazona and Anna Saragina And so you know,
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Kyle Amazona, I am that because one of you said that.
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That's said so that we are. She's never said, bitch,
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before you're seeing something. Really, we're breaking new ground here.
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Daniel's a big Twitter, very small but very small, big Twitter.
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How are you guys doing. I think we're great. We're
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reunited after Kyle was away for a week, so the
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first week we've taken apart and I don't even know
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how long. Yeah, before the zoom started, I greeted you guys,
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and I said, olah, it was because I was on
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the East coast. She actually the melting cot over there. Yeah, exactly, absolutely,
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And you were two of the people who went and
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saw Elvis with us. Um, and that was fun. Right,
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we had had a good time. Stop talking about it,
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I guess, stop thinking about it. I'll talk to anyone
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who lives sense and sometimes for those who don't mean,
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I just And a nice favorite part was that it
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felt like whenever Elvis went through something, the transition would
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always be him going, you ain't nothing but a hound dog,
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but you ain't nothing about a hound dog would reflect
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the moods. Sometimes it was really somber, like when he
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invented civil rights. Um. Yeah, the greatest civil rights leader,
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Elvis Presley. Well, okay, okay, Well I looked at him
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and said, I'll have what he's having. He's like, he's
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really sad. So he's like on the piano and it's
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like he's one hand on the piano. He like it
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barely seems like he knows what his hands are going
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to do, but they do know what they're doing, and
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to do it ain't nothing but a hound. Of course,
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of course, of course I have. My favorite part also
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was at Um. The whole time, everybody's like Elvis is
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obsessed with pepsi. This guy, get this guy a pepsi.
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This guy loves pep but he's having he's like having
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a panic attack before he goes on to do his
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first show where you know yet to go get get
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this man of Pepsi. And then when he hits rock
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bottom and someone else has to hold his microphone or
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if you saw this, he's really rock bottom. He's having
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a coke. And I made this wary point the day
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after when we talk. It's not subtle though, it's not yeah,
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it's all pepsi. It's happening in the South where they
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call pepsi coke. They're like, hey, here, would you like
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a coke? Even if they're talking about pepsi, Like nobody.
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Pepsi doesn't exist in the South. So like I clagged
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at the very first time, they're suddenly like, um, the
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only thing that will cure this man's nerves and give
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us the rock and roll career of that Elvis Presley
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is a pepsi and and it works. And I was like, huh,
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that's really weird, Like they must have some deal with pepsi.
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And sure enough, like they kept drinking pepsi, pepsi, pepsi.
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And then his last concert, the only time we get
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to see him in a fat suit, like a fat
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Elvis suit. He has a bunch of like cups of
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coke on his piano and he looks bad. It's not
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even like a can or a glass. It's actually one
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of those paper ones that yeah with us, he was there,
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you go wow. Alright, Kyle and Anna, we're going to
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get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
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we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things. We're
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talking about end of last week, very tumultuous time with
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an assassination. Um, I don't know if we're going to
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talk about that, because I don't know where recording this,
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Like the day after it happened, but we don't really
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know the information that you know as you're listening to
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this um so we don't even know what what happened
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or who it was. Really we know the name of
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the person, we don't know what was going on anyways.
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I want to talk about Where the craw Dads Sing,
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which is a book that I was kind of vaguely
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aware of, but they got they got the big movie
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coming out this week. I want to talk about McGrath,
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The Crime Dog, maybe even Louis c Kay's movie that
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came out that I really I don't know how many
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people noticed that that it came out. Oh yeah, did
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you see it opening day? I go was it in
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theaters like a couple. It's got a very limited, tastefully
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limited run for awards consideration. You gotta get it in theater.
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You gotta get in the theater. Is he Starr in it? No?
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It does not, All right, I guess we'll talk about
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that one. We've had it on the dock for a while,
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but it seems like there's there's some interest there from
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our guests. No, no, no, there's no entrance. There's no
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big fans. Louis Kay for someone else. Before we get
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to any of that, we do like to ask our guests, Kyle,
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and what is something from your search history that is
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revealing about who you are? Oh? About revealing who I am?
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I didn't know that was also part of it. It
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reveals who you are because you searched for it. Yeah, Lord,
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you want to go first, I'll go first, step up
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to bat and I'll come to that. I'll buy you
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some step up to bad. Okay, you're on deck. You're
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definitely on deck. Okay. So the last thing I googled
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was a photo of Willie Nelson from Thief, because last
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night I was watching Thief. Um, you know, Rest in
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Power James con and uh, I was like, I think
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I look exactly like Willie Nelson. Oh my gosh, So
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I looked up. I was googling Thief, Willie Nelson, Thief,
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Willy Nelson ponytailon window because he's by the window, and
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I think I do look exactly like Billy Nelson and Thief. Wow,
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I watched Thief yesterday as well. So you saw me
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do a great I did not. I did not see
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it all the time. I've never seen Thief before. But
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did did you watch it? It was it was hard
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to find. It was like voodoo or some ship who
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put all right the l a County beautiful app. Really,
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I love a well designed app. That's nice. It's um,
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I really like. I'm actually a big fan of Canopy
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but um there was a weird lag and then was
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also available Canopies. Another library reapp that has okay, great
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selection of Willie Nelson has some real um like non
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actor energy and that. But it's like makes them very
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compelling to watch. But um, this is not just me
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being like, so, don't feel bad that you look exactly
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like him, because he's very compelling. You don't think you do?
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I really do, and thank you so much for your
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probably pull up a pick right here. I look like
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a very interesting assortment of men. It's so funny because
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sometimes I sometimes I see it, and sometimes I really
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don't see it. It's I look, I guess I actually
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I do see it. Actually, yeah, it's sort of you
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do see it. I think you're actually a bit cuter.
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Thank you. It's all right, Yeah that's my tap. Oh
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my god, it's very interesting. I look like I look
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like Willie Nelson and thief. And then I look, what's
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the YouTube kid who reviews uh um, the suit kid
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who reviews like reviews Chicken or somebody. Yeah and Burgers. Yes,
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you know, I can't remember his name, but I know
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who you're talking about. Okay, I can see that one
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a little bit more absolutely. I can see that one
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more so between me, Kem and Willie Nelson. It's just
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a nice consortium of men that I look exactly like. Um,
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how about you, Kyle, What's something from your search history
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that is revealing and just allows us to judge you.
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I don't think it's I want to say, it doesn't
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reveal anything about me, but maybe a little secret about
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me is sometimes I do get mixed up in the
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celebrity hot goss. Okay, so what's the hottest goss? Doja cats?
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Doja Cats called out this boy from I Don't Want
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Stranger Things, but it called up this boy from Stranger
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Things for sharing I guess their private messages, And so
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I searched. This is actually the what I searched. I
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searched doja cat period no space m E S S
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A g w um because I just wanted to underno
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what the message cat no space period M S S
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g w I just like like message, um, and I
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just wanted to see what the content of the message was.
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And because Doja Cat was pretty upset, you want to
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see what she's so upset about. Yeah, and I guess
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she had hit up this young fellow to be like I, um,
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I think that when your co stars is pretty cute,
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does he have a girlfriend? And then he the young
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stranger things kid. I guess put it on TikTok and
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shared it with the girl. My whole thing. I hope
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the Doja cat whatever follower what do they call them?
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The doj diverse cats doesn't come from the doj ki,
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doja cat, dojoo. Yes, the dojos don't come for me. Okay,
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the dojos please don't come from me. But I do
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have to say that, like because the Chief kind of
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came back and was like, that's some snake ship about
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him sharing it, which I agree, it's like weird for
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him to share it. At the same time, you're also
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messaging a twelve year old boy. That is, I see
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both sides of the So it's like, you don't hit
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up a twelve year old boy about someone you have
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a crush on, because that's a twelve year old boy.
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Which one was the boy? Because I don't think they're
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twelve anymore. They're not. They might have been. They might
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have since then turned actually doesn't even Actually I will
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say that this guy might actually look like he was
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like me. I'm just kidding, but maybe Noah Snap. Do
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you think Noah looks like me? He has seventeen years old,
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and yes, you are young. So I just think that
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if you, oh, yeah, that looks different. Yeah right there.
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I also yeah, I just think that, like, you can't
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expect you can't expect young people to Um, okay, can
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this not show something about me? Though? You're you know
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what I think it shows. Just really don't think it
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shows that you have a curiosity and you're kind of exercise.
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You're doing a kind of exercise in debate, doing both sides. Yeah,
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you're giving both sides of fair trial. Think that this
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this is great. You're a fair judge. But you're one
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of the great journalists of every time. You really are. Meanwhile,
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I'm over here looking like Noah Snap. Okay, And what
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we've learned about Anna is that she looks like every
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single white man between the seventeen and six Honestum, I
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just my only complaint is I don't think it's snake ship.
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I think it's like kind of like pathetic and like
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I don't know, Yeah, it's just a little boy and
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be like, oh my god, don't you cat messaged me
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and think, uh, yeah, it's like that he's not a snake.
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He's not like out to get you. He thinks you're
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like very cool, and it's probably very I don't know.
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I actually don't know enough, so maybe he is just
16:29
being a snake. I think. I think this completely speaks
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to the kind of like binary nature of the Internet,
16:34
where you're either cringe or you're really cool and that
16:38
like and and and there's no age thing. It's not like,
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oh shoot, you know what, you're young, you don't quite understand.
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It's like this behavior is actually probably not something that
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you should do. It's like this kid sucks. And that's
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how it works immediately because he did something that he
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probably shouldn't have done. That literally, any one of us
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at that age, if we had this access to the
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internet would have done the same thing for sure. But
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I totally agree that like he shouldn't have don't like
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that's his friend. If he had a girlfriend and been
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like doja cat thinks you're cute man like as your
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friends your friend Yo cat was asking about it. Not
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very cute. I know it doesn't look like he actually
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that was my takeaways, Like, okay, he must have some
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energy about him. Um, all right, let's take a quick
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break and we'll come back and talk about your overrated
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and underrated. And we're back and um, very as always,
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just the non recorded parts of the conversations with you guys.
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Always always an adventure, um roller Foster of Black People.
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And then we go on and then we're like, hello,
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were like Jack O'Brien, my name is Kyle, and we're
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like you were saying, well, maybe this will come up
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and over it underrated, maybe it won't, which case I
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will ask you about it afterwards. What is something you
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think is overrated? Okay, we didn't talk about this beforehand. Well,
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and it goes um, but we do have a combined one.
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But was that underrated or overrated? That one's underrated? Overrated?
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We can start under it. Let's go under it. Let's
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flip flop, flip flop underrated. Okay, Well, okay, I guess
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I'll go first because I made you go up to
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that Okay, So, um, my underrated is um, the story
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is get back into your get comfortable. Story is that
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I have a friend who goes to this gym and
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they were showing me pictures of the gym owner and
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it was a very buff Asian man and so, but
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I don't want to phrase it as underrated buff Asian people.
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I wanted to actually have a little a little more classy,
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So I'm going to say buffness within the Asian American community.
19:25
That actually sounded like like a ballad initiative, well worded
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vote Kyles, I just you know, I feel there should
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be more of us. You're representative right here. I am
19:45
part of that community. Um. I usually hide it with
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my big shirts, but underheath my shirt there's a lot
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of muscle. I actually call her a strong friend. And
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also for the listeners at home, Kyle is flexing really hard,
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right I don't if you can bury your voice, it's
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probably coming true. But yeah, it is a pose off
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happening right now. Yeah, what's something you think is underrated?
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And I think something that's underrated is going live on
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Instagram with Woody Allen. I think that that is really
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I think that that's underrated. I think more people should
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be going life with Woody Allen all the time. I'm
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going out. I didn't know about that. Oh my god,
20:29
I knew. I knew he had him on his podcast
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or something maybe underrated, going live, overrated, turning the comments
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off with that, let me get in there, let me
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get in and let me play. Yeah, come on, let
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me play out of there. And it didn't go smoothly
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the from a technical standpoint, Woody Allen's wife I kept
20:52
going out, and so then Alec Baldwin was just like
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branding with a like really really getting mad where you're like,
21:01
oh this temper is I mean, that's just what you're
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showing us. So yeah, there's more to Oh my god,
21:09
it was very very Actually he was getting mad at
21:11
Woody Allen were just the circumstances. He was getting mad
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at the WiFi, I think. But then he would be
21:17
like march off screen and scream in Spanish away really
21:22
the Woody's house? Yeah, what would he? Alec Baldwin was shouting,
21:27
he was definitelyish, just like you when you came on
21:31
the recording, so not so different and here not so different.
21:36
You and Alex very very how do you say cucumber.
21:42
How you say? What did he say? There was a
21:50
day when Alec Baldwin made a soft kind of not soft,
21:54
actually it was very the phone call not the phone call. No,
21:57
when he announced going live with Woody Yeah, I don't
22:00
if you guys saw this, he was he made this
22:03
video of himself. He's smoldering. He's smoldering for so I'm like,
22:07
you're really overestimating how attractive you are because he thinks
22:10
he can buy a lot of airtime with just like
22:13
pursing his lips and really looking around, and he's like
22:17
on Tuesday, like, can we get to the cap? What's
22:22
happening to pausing for thirty minutes on Tuesday June? I
22:28
believe what is that knows exactly what it is, right,
22:33
but it's searching for it, searching for It's just there's
22:39
a calendar. Yet he goes something big, I'm going to
22:45
be going live with and then he holds he doesn't
22:48
even say what Allen's name. He just holds up his
22:49
book and let's the book speak for itself. And then
22:53
that So that video was I mean, that just was
22:56
etched into my brain. He did not specify a M
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or P M. So I did miss Instagram five. That's
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so funny. He didn't. He didn't specify what coast he
23:05
was on. He didn't think to specify. No, he said
23:07
seven thirty, ten thirty like east, like, but he didn't
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specify AM or PM. Oh that was it PM? It
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was ah, it was He's still alive at seven thirty
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a m. They're time? What the fuck? I don't know
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on the East coast? The East coast inappropriate miscalculation of
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when people go alive or was it? No? You know what,
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I'm sorry. I don't want to be with like ten.
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I think it was actually seven thirty very early, but
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oh yeah, yeah, that's how time works. Not really, it
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would be ten thirty there, Yeah, still too early if yes, yeah,
23:46
that's anyway, that's that's underrated. But we haven't one together too,
23:51
someone together, underrated together. This is your overrated and underrated together.
23:57
They're underrated or this show. Yeah. Anna was talking about
24:03
the shirt that she's wearing right now, and she was saying,
24:07
I actually was going to get you one in a
24:11
different color, but the woman who was helping me was
24:16
kind of mean, so I ended up not getting it.
24:19
So are combined underrated? Isa and then you said, oh,
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And then I said, you know what, even though you
24:26
didn't get it for me, I feel like you did.
24:30
And it was you even just saying that I almost
24:34
got you this shirt but I didn't. It's almost as good.
24:38
It's it's actually as good as you getting me that shirt,
24:42
because it's the count because it really is the thought
24:45
that you were going to get me that shirt but
24:48
you didn't. That's underrated, whatever that whatever that is underrated,
24:55
and the thought being what counts is underrated. Yes, we're
25:00
also simultaneously standing up to rude people. I appreciate. I
25:04
didn't think it was the thought that counts. I didn't
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think it's simmered that. Just what it is is you
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say my saying it was almost as good as just
25:13
getting the shirt exactly. So it's not even the thought
25:16
that counts. It's just that you don't even need to
25:18
get the shirt and involved it's just the like, well,
25:22
actually it's the thought that I said to both of you, Hey,
25:26
I got you guys. I was thinking about getting you
25:29
guys coffees into your house exactly the way you like them,
25:34
but honestly right, But then the show was about to start.
25:38
Then I couldn't get around to it and you walk
25:40
away going, Now, that was really nice of hers. What
25:46
we're talking about, you were going to do something for them? Yes,
25:51
do you have to in this case, have to have
25:54
actually been about to do it? Or can you just
25:57
tell someone that that is the decision that you are
25:59
going to have to make by yourself. I kind of
26:03
would lean toward I'm actually was about to do you
26:08
want to lie? Then? You know, I understand that life
26:11
is tough right now, So yeah, like that's okay, that's okay,
26:16
that's the kind of guy you are, then that's fine. Yeah,
26:22
what what is something you guys think? Is it overrated? Okay? Okay, okay,
26:30
this is why am I. I'm not trying to put
26:32
anyone on blast here? Yeah blast off, but overrated to me?
26:39
The response no worries I which is really kind of
26:47
hurt my feelings because I actually think I said no
26:50
worries to you today today. Yeah, you're a big kind
26:53
of works. Okay. I warned her beforehand because they said,
27:00
I don't want to attack you live on air. I
27:03
want you to have a little heads up no worries.
27:07
And the thing is that I'm bringing my own baggage
27:09
into the situation. You say no worries. I hear, oh,
27:13
there's worries, do we not it? You said, you imagine
27:19
no worries as someone being like kind of aggressively by themselves,
27:23
like no worries. Yeah, because there's definitely worries to convey
27:31
a sort of worry free philosophy. I would say, but I, well,
27:37
she's she said. When I am, I'm a hundred, I
27:41
am real. I say no worries, there are no worries attached.
27:47
I actually want you to really no worries because of
27:49
what it is is that I'm usually running late. When
27:53
I said when when I say no worries, I'm like, no,
27:57
it's totally okay. I don't want you to worry about anything.
28:01
I'm not being like seething in my house like in
28:05
my in my heart of hearts. I go, she's seething
28:07
in her house. I just I want you not to worry.
28:10
I'm worrying, you know. But maybe instead of saying no worries,
28:13
I'll just go type please don't take out, Please don't
28:16
get in a car crash over this, just head over
28:18
when you yeah a little longer, thank you. I was
28:22
gonna ask is there's some more preferred verbis that you'd like,
28:25
please don't get in a car crash truly, fret not,
28:28
and don't even think about driving reckless when you see
28:31
I at my end of things, that simply not worried
28:33
about dam I'm not because a big fan of fret
28:40
not not great one fret not just feels like the
28:45
Shakespeare translation of no worries, doesn't it? Yes, okay, but
28:50
but it's not. It's different, it's not. But at that point,
28:53
simply all language that replaces no worries, it's just a
28:55
retranslation of no worries. All good, It's okay, thumbs up
28:59
in the g whatever, it's a thumbs up emoji. I'm
29:02
crashing my car. You are? You are out of your board?
29:06
I am, I am, I'm checking myself into urgent care.
29:10
Can we talk to my Should we talk to then
29:13
we should make an emoji thumbs up. But then it
29:15
has like little balloon coming out of it or something
29:17
to be like, it's a positive thumbs up, it's okay.
29:21
That would be That would be helpful. Because my father
29:23
sends me the most devastating text messages where I'm like
29:26
sending some large apology and then I just get a
29:28
thumbs up back and I'm like, dad, why do you
29:30
do this? Just don't see anything, just don't say anything.
29:34
Just hey, sometimes just a letter k hey k h. Yeah.
29:40
It's such a status thing to just give a very like,
29:44
not thought out response to a long text message. Okay,
29:50
like really hurts. It's I have received your message, and
29:54
uh sure, yes, absolutely absolutely. I if I may rudely
30:00
add an addendum to what we're talking about here, because this,
30:03
this really truly resonates so deeply with me, the way
30:06
what you're saying. I have a friend that nerd alert
30:09
I played video games with, and he told me that
30:12
he when he is in a situation where he is
30:14
getting upset at his teammates. But it's like, you know what, No,
30:17
I'm going to move past this. He's like, you know,
30:19
instead of like being mad or trying to correct, I
30:21
just say all good. But all that tells me is
30:24
that whenever you say all good when we're playing games together,
30:27
you're seething in your chair at me. What did you
30:31
just do? All you did was add a whole another
30:33
set of words where I'm just like, okay, great, well
30:35
now you're upset and now there's something we can do.
30:38
Absolutely I have to put on to get your feelings.
30:43
You know, the crime Dog, which was the story that
30:50
we probably won't get to. But um, all right, I
30:55
think we have one more one more overrated. Yeah, okay,
30:58
this will probably not generate a lot of conversation. I
31:04
feel all my just kind of create a halt, a
31:08
crazy stop in sort of any momentum. But okay, so
31:13
I know, I said emoji with somethings up with a balloon,
31:16
but my um, overrated is not the image of a balloon,
31:20
but actual physical balloons. Because they when they pop, it's
31:25
very scary, very loud. They are yes, interesting again, I said,
31:30
I knew this wasn't gonna generic. No, look, the popping
31:35
that is scary, I do agree with, and that to
31:38
me is almost not worth They're hard to carry. They're
31:41
not that hard to carry at all. What are you
31:42
talking anything? It's it's at least if you have to
31:50
kind of carry you you got a bunch are we
31:55
talking helium filled balloons? Helium filled balloons? You put them
31:58
in your car and your you're hitting them away, you're
32:01
hitting them. You can't see the front of your car.
32:04
This is crazy because my style of friendship with you
32:07
is that I absolutely get you balloons pretty often. That's crazy. Yeah,
32:14
but you just get me happening here. This is really
32:18
a therapy s Honestly, no worries about those worries, no
32:22
worries about the balloon, don't worries. Don't I have car insurance,
32:27
so no worries. Honestly, I couldn't really think of something,
32:31
so I said, it's okay. It's just sometimes I went
32:34
through a little phase where I thought it would be
32:35
really funny to get Kyle, like a delivery of just
32:38
one balloon or just one Yeah, that was really cool.
32:42
That sounds it sounds nice. That's why I have like
32:45
a bunch of these like red vases for single flower
32:48
just around my house. Anna would just send me a
32:51
single rose, and then I would just be like, I
32:54
get to deliver, I go and then and then I
32:57
just feel like Anna would just be like if you
32:59
could see where what and I was doing, She's just
33:01
at her house laughing, that's amazing, And I'm like very confused.
33:12
All right, let's take a break, we'll come back. We'll
33:14
spend a couple of minutes talking about the news. After
33:18
this and we're back and do you guys have your
33:32
fan Dango tickets yet? For where the crowd Dad's saying,
33:36
I'm run into the box office running, Oh, You're gonna
33:39
run instead of getting it on fandango. So this was
33:42
like a big best seller smash hit. Like I feel
33:46
like I heard the title. I knew this book existed
33:49
a couple of years ago. I think it came out
33:50
in twenty nineteen. I thought it was like hillbilly Elegy
33:54
adjacent because it seemed like it was like the South,
33:58
you know, Am I right? Um? And it is based
34:03
in the South, but it is a murder mystery, uh.
34:07
And it's based on like a girl who was like
34:10
a swamp girl who raises herself in the swamp. But
34:13
she's beautiful and all the boys love her, and then
34:16
she kills one of them and then it's like the
34:19
trial where it's like did she judge them or did
34:24
they judge her or something like that. Anyways, the movie
34:28
version produced by Reese Witherspoon. She made the book a
34:31
hit by making it part of her book club, which
34:34
that is apparently the new Oprah's book Club. Did y'all
34:37
know that? Yeah? Reese Witherspoon's book Club is like the
34:42
new kingmaker in the world, and she's never once steered
34:47
us wrong. I'm still waiting for my n f t
34:49
s that she turned me onto to turn around, but
34:52
I think I think they're coming back. You gotta buy
34:55
the dip and then the cataclysmic spiral go ahead. I
35:00
just remember that in Sweethome, Alabama, she goes and you
35:02
had a baby at a bar. That's all I remember.
35:05
That's so funny you said that because amediately when you
35:08
said Reese Withers has never steered us wrong. The movie
35:11
that came to my mind was sweeth Home, Alabama, The
35:15
Lightning in the Glass. I haven't seen that movie, but
35:20
run Run the Walk. Here's a little taste of it.
35:23
A Latin and the Glass that you've really got to
35:29
go down a treat on these days. Wow. So the
35:35
thing that was like most noteworthy about the book's success,
35:38
like and the author, was that it was like a
35:41
seventy something first time author and that's what that's how
35:45
it was covered. It was like, do you believe this
35:48
person is writing for the first time? And nobody really
35:52
brought up the fact that she was involved in a
35:54
murder in Africa and had to flee Africa because of
35:57
suspicions surrounding the murder and because her son in law
36:02
committed the murder on film while an ABC News film
36:06
crew was with them. So basically her and her husband
36:10
where conservationists went around trying to fight off poachers. One
36:14
of the ways they did that is by shooting at
36:17
them from helicopters. So they are a white couple in Africa,
36:21
and people who knew them reported their feelings about Africa
36:26
were and I quote nice continent pity about the Africans.
36:30
That that that's how they summed up there, like sort
36:33
of vibes um. And so, while accompanyed by a camera
36:38
crew for the Network news show Turning Point, her son
36:43
in law murdered a poacher. Not like the poacher pulled
36:46
a gun on him. Uh, he waited at the camp
36:50
for the poacher to return to his camp and then
36:53
like shot him six times. And then her husband allegedly
36:57
took the body up in his helicopter and dropped it
37:00
in a lake, so it was never found. Yeah, And
37:04
so like I remember reading this New Yorker story, because
37:08
the New Yorker did a story about this is like
37:09
there's these two people who just like got away with murder.
37:12
And also it's like while because they're like, we're the
37:16
only thing that's holding Africa back from being overrun by poachers,
37:21
and like we that's why we have to be tough
37:24
on poachers and like murder them that they don't say
37:28
murder them, but they're like like that's why we have
37:30
a helicopter, I guess um. And then like they have
37:35
to flee because they murdered someone, and the authorities are like, yeah,
37:39
you definitely murdered someone, like happened. And then like the
37:43
New Yorker author journalists like goes back and like researches
37:47
and he's like, actually, it's like much better now than
37:50
it was when they were here, and like they weren't
37:53
helping as much as they thought they were, if at all. Uh,
37:57
And like the community is glad they're gone. So anyways,
38:02
the fact that this was not brought up like you
38:06
you have to have like it's she didn't change her name.
38:10
She still has the same name as she did like
38:14
eight years before when The New Yorker wrote a massive
38:18
profile of her, Like being part of this thing, and
38:23
it does like tie into I could see people like
38:25
being like, well, they're too totally. It's not like her
38:28
book is about committing a murder in Africa and getting
38:32
away with it. So first of all, she she and
38:34
her husband wrote memoirs when they were in Africa and
38:38
they were like not great. They they had this one
38:43
story where they were like talking about, um, this cook
38:47
that they had, this African cook, and they like told
38:52
the story of of him being like I'd always wanted
38:55
to meet like somebody who had flown in a plane,
38:59
like when you're in a plane, are you close to
39:02
the stars? Like? And then so the New Yorker author
39:05
like goes and interviews the cook and he's like I
39:08
flew in the fucking air force. I'm what are you?
39:13
What are you talking about? Like, but it's just this
39:18
and then that is like and that that's also like
39:22
characters in her book where the Crawdads thing like there's
39:27
a black family that are like the you know, magical characters,
39:32
and it's yeah, so it's a mess. It's just that
39:39
like the media was did did not? We're not like, hey,
39:43
this book has like very strong white supremacy tendencies. This
39:47
person was involved in a white supremacist murder and it
39:52
is like laying low in the United States. Uh, and
39:56
is the author of this book? Um? Yeah, so I
40:01
don't know. I love the idea of laying low in
40:04
the United States. Yeah, laying low casually making a movie
40:07
making Yeah you missed this one, you really did. I
40:15
want to say something kind of controversial. I really hope
40:18
that this doesn't go the wrong way. But I feel
40:21
like I so much just say something stupid on Twitter.
40:25
I can't live that down. This woman, this woman getting
40:30
away with this When I go my but on Twitter,
40:36
It's like, I just feel like that's just who I
40:38
am for the next twenty years. I'm glad you did it. Yeah,
40:42
I'm glad you did address the my butt tweet because
40:45
we were going to have to bring it up eventually.
40:47
It's been It's on everyone's mind, do you know what
40:50
I'm saying. I just feel that that that actually is
40:53
crazy example privilege that, oh yeah, get away with like murder,
41:01
you know, and also like using white supremacy too, because
41:06
she's telling like a romantic Southern tale of supremacy, Like
41:10
she's able to become a national celebrity twice, once for
41:15
murder and another were writing a book that everyone's like, yes,
41:21
that's crazy, we're not seeing it. M I heard the name.
41:25
I go, I'm out'nions. Yeah, we're seeing Minions twice. Have
41:30
you seen again in sus Well, that's the I was
41:35
telling Kyle, that's about the friend the Gentlemanions, the Gentlemenions,
41:41
Gentlemanian that just don't you throw stuff at the screen.
41:46
That's oh, that's what they were doing to bananas at
41:50
the screen. Honestly, that that the title Gentlemenions does not
41:56
also carry into the behavior. You think, the whole idea
41:58
of like wearing suits and like walking in this nice
42:00
orderly fashion, trying to like make some sort of you know,
42:03
I don't know statement, whatever the heck they're doing. They're
42:05
the kids. But then that just drops the second year
42:07
in the movie theater, what's with that? Yeah, what's up
42:09
with that? I mean, it had followed through, you know, committed,
42:11
But it's it's pretty sick that they're just making their
42:14
own like Rocky horror, you know, like, yeah, that's sick.
42:19
That is fun. That is really fun. It's maybe not
42:22
fun at the expense of let's say employees, but you know, yeah, right,
42:27
maybe that's maybe that's the next wave of a Gentlemanians,
42:29
the next rise of grew to perchance the Gentlemanians actually
42:32
clean up after themselves, clean up after yourself. Yeah, yeah,
42:35
that should be part of the part of the deal.
42:37
The one thing that I wanted to comment on was
42:40
that when I was growing up, I'd go to Lake
42:42
Tahoe and we would catch crowd hads. So they also
42:45
they also sing in Lake Taho actually universal national experience,
42:52
so we can say the crowd had saying I say,
42:54
think of a more specific title. Yeah, wow, oh, it's
42:57
a critique about I love that, thank you? And where
43:01
and where is that supposed to be? Because in many
43:04
places you know that they have sung in to where
43:08
the water is wet? Uh okay, yeah, where this guy
43:13
is blue? Okay. Swamp girl is great. I love swamp girl. Yeah,
43:19
pretty pretty swamp girl murderer pretty Yeah, and she looks
43:24
she's pretty. Swamp girl murders, the swamp girl murders. Yeah,
43:31
swampy murders, swampy murder. Love a swampy murder. All right,
43:37
let's let's talk real quick about McGruff. McGuff is back
43:41
in the house. Um, I did just wanna are you
43:45
guys are all I think younger than me by Daniel,
43:49
I know, a pretty significant amount. What is your relationship
43:53
to McGruff the crime dog? I think my generation of
43:57
of elementary school, you know, pre presentations by some haggard
44:01
individual uh, kind of like skipped the Dare McGruff phase
44:05
and just went straight to the like, yeah I did
44:08
Heroin and it was bad, went straight into that phase. Wait,
44:12
you had like people from recovery programs come in and talk. Yes,
44:17
yes it was. It was less corporate centric and more
44:19
just individual person representing their own past centric. Yeah I
44:25
got it. But were they like real scared straight about it? Yeah, no,
44:28
they they were. I mean, you know, when you're talking
44:31
to a room full of thirteen ye roles that are
44:32
like making fart noises every time you say something, it's
44:35
kind of like, you know, what do you? You do
44:37
your best, You do your best to share your message
44:38
and then ums, gentlemanions. It sounds like Kyle, and what
44:42
about y'all? Did you have any experience with McGruff or
44:45
any DARE programs or any of that stuff. I think
44:47
I remember the commercial? Did he talk like this? Yeah?
44:53
Not surprisingly, McGruff is like a police like he was
44:56
created by the ad Council to be the police version
45:01
of Smoky Bear. And I remember I think I might
45:05
have had this uh pop music album called McGruff's Smart Kids,
45:12
Smart Kids Say No to Drugs. It sounds bad, um,
45:17
but I just there's something about it that really like
45:20
I was like, oh, I've seen that many times before.
45:23
There's a song called marijuana that sounds like Danny DeVito
45:26
belting out an eighties power ballad about how pot is
45:30
like any of your head against the wall. Actually, do
45:32
you wanna should we play it? We certainly could definitely
45:38
cry marijuana. I don't try it at all. This is pop. Yeah,
45:46
it's like me eating your head on a wall. Marijuana
45:51
is that was the fast way to fall? Yeah, he
45:57
I feel like he's dropping the McGruff character. Yeah cha
46:04
yeah Arawan, I mean that's just true. Wow, Wow, that
46:15
was really fun. Honestly. Yeah. I I grew up having
46:21
recurring nightmares that a drug dealer was going to hold
46:24
me down, cut my thumb with a razor blade, and
46:27
put cocaine in my blood to get me hooked. Like
46:30
that's that is the version of drugs that they had
46:33
put into like put out there for me that I
46:37
was like, oh man, which is exactly what ended up happening.
46:41
But yeah, it's like, I think the war on drugs is,
46:44
like we've all agreed it was obviously a racist fight
46:49
for mass incarceration, and yet they're like still investing in McGruff.
46:55
Uh that YPD spent more than five hundred dollars on
46:58
eight McGruff costumes. Uh yeah, yeah, I know they're still
47:05
still out here from doing the McGruff thing. Yeah, I do,
47:11
like a TikTok d. An m YPD spokesman even well,
47:15
I'm sure they have like brainstormed that as a viral
47:19
video because an m y p D spokesman even admitted
47:22
that the reason why the police are willing to spend
47:24
so much taxpayer money on McGruff costumes is because they
47:28
can quote use them to go to schools and say
47:31
trust the police. Police are your friends, which is I
47:38
don't think they were supposed to like say that out loud,
47:40
but that's uh anyway, don't trust the police. Never talked
47:44
to cops, yep, yeah, keep dogs out of it and
47:47
keep Yeah, there was there was there was some argument
47:52
I saw recently about how like making more drugs legal
47:54
would like to give. There was some cop was like, well,
47:57
what do we do with all the dogs? And they'll
47:59
be out of a job, as if dogs having jobs?
48:01
Was like, because that's the concern. Let them. Those are
48:04
the unemployment numbers I checked first, exactly saying a lot
48:08
of unemployed dogs. Dog doesn't want to lose his job.
48:15
Dog from it. She's scared. Well, Kyle and a uh,
48:22
truly a pleasure as always having you on the daily zeitgeist.
48:26
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Well,
48:30
we should talk about our final season of Truth Hounds. Yeah, final, No,
48:35
not final, We're coming back. We have another season final,
48:39
our final episode of the season two. I mean give
48:43
you a heart attack, full palpitations. We just finished our
48:48
season two and if you haven't listened to it, we
48:53
actually most of the episode, most of the season is
48:55
about one investigation, and I honestly think it's pretty um epic.
49:02
I do think it's pretty epic. Not not to be
49:04
you know, to our own horn or epic sauce or whatever,
49:08
but it is an Odyssey esque epic. I would say yes,
49:13
And I guess to give you a little taste, we
49:18
see a web we saw a website. We saw a website.
49:22
We were curious about the person running the website. I
49:27
think we have to reveal a little more, Yeah, a
49:32
little big. We We found this person who runs a
49:37
film festival through a web and the initial draw was
49:42
at the website sucked. Yeah, it was a little funky.
49:46
It was all geo cities. What question were you investigating
49:50
when you found the site? What is fear? And why
49:53
can't I look away? Basically, we saw that the it
49:57
was a film festival. The festival director 's photo was very,
50:01
very freaky, and it scared us. But at the same
50:04
time we were incredibly intrigued by this person as well
50:09
as just like the festival in the community. And so
50:14
we basically went on to apply to the film festival
50:18
by making a short, whole short decoy, a real decoy
50:22
short film to apply to this festival. And then we
50:25
went to the festival. And then it didn't even end there.
50:29
It didn't even I would argue that doesn't really begin there,
50:32
it doesn't even begin there. But for our podcast, we
50:35
made a short film to submit to a festival. That's
50:39
that's the kind of lengths we're willing to go to. Yeah,
50:42
and I think it's pretty Um, it's really I do
50:45
think it's an epic all right, Yeah, please go listen.
50:48
It is a high point in podcast investigation. I listened
50:53
to the final episode and I go, I don't know
50:55
who's running this thing, but I think we should get
50:57
a pe body to be honest with. And is there
51:01
a tweet or some of the work of social media
51:04
you've been enjoying. I guess for me it's I've been
51:06
enjoying just rewatching the Boris Johnson video where he says
51:10
them's the brakes. I guess that's that's kind of what
51:13
I'm rocking with, right, you didn't know what we had? Yeah? Um,
51:19
for me, I think it's the Twitter video that's been
51:22
going around of those dogs sticking their nose out of
51:25
the window. Oh, and they're they're really big dogs. And
51:29
they there's about three or four dogs. So go check
51:33
that out. I don't know where you find it, but
51:37
I just happen to go sticking their nose out the
51:39
window and they're really big dogs. They're big. Yeah, there
51:42
yere four I think five? Maybe? Yeah? Uh, Daniel, where
51:48
can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying?
51:50
You can find me all over the internet at DJ
51:52
underscored Daniel. If you're listening to this the day we
51:54
recorded it, which is impossible, I'll be live on Twitch
51:57
later today, but otherwise live Wednesday is Friday, and of
52:00
days on twitch dot tv slash tach Underscore Daniel, and
52:03
I've just been loving all of the riffs on the
52:05
Jordan Peterson uh little speech he gave on Twitter video
52:10
he made about it, and UM, I'm trying to remember
52:12
the name of this character from Watchman, but um, one
52:15
of my favorites, one of my favorite Twitter accounts, Whack
52:17
with a silent h at Whack Nicholson posted. So it's
52:20
a picture of a of a square from Watchman comic
52:22
and it's Ozzy Mandia speaking. But it is the text
52:25
that says, I'm not taking down that tweet or acknowledging
52:27
that my tweet violated Twitter rules, up yours woke moral
52:31
less with Ozzy Mandia say, and that just and that
52:33
just gave me a nice little giggle. So yeah, shout
52:37
out at Whack Nicholson Whack with a silent H. You
52:41
can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien, I've
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been enjoying a tweet from Soren. They then tweeted them,
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your pets are spoiled me. They're competitively compensated for the
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user experience they provide. Um, and then Amelia Eliz all
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Day tweeted, the announcements at the Seattle Airport are always like, hey,
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it's modest mouse. Please report any suspicious activity, police officer.
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It's so true. Have you ever been there? They got
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like they got like all these like rock icons from
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the grunge era to just be like, hey, it's sound Garden.
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as that song that we think you might enjoying. Uh
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to producer DJ Daniel, Um, if you don't have one,
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so it's it's your call. You can know what check.
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I'm interested in what you have to say. All right,
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let's here. So I don't know if you've heard of
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this movie where the crowd dads sing but it's got
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a really cool soundtrack. It's like all these you know.
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Uh So, there is a movie called The Worst Person
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in the World that has a great soundtrack and it
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ends with the song by Arc gar Funcle, which I
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was not very familiar with Art car Funcle as a
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solo musician. Um, I just knew him as like a
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punch line to the bad of the two between Simon
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and Garfuncle. And there's the song that ends that movie
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called Waters of March that uh I think might like
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be hypnotizing me or so I can't stop listening to it.
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It's a problem, So I'm gonna make it your problem too.
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I also just really love it. It is Art Garfuncle's
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version of Antonio Carlos who Beam's Waters of March, and
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it's good, I think. So I will link after that
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