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Speaker 1
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to twenty three,
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Episode five of Your Daily se Geist. It's a production
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by Heart Radio. It's a podcast where we take a
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deep dive into America's share consciousness. It is Friday, February eleven.
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Happy to my dad, My dad. My name is Jack
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O'Brien a K. I've got a Samsung and you look lazy.
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If you've got iPhone, then you're a baby. Don't fucking
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at me. Look how Matt theaby go get a real phone,
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you fucking baby. That is courtesy of Rando Dixon Art
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on Discord. I also have an iPhone, but I just
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agree with the stance that people who are iPhone users
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and look down on the Samsung phone users the green
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or blue text messages need to, you know, back off
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a little bit because the iPhone is just a baby
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phone made for people who don't know how to use technology.
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That well, which I happily include myself in the camp
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up Well, I am thrilled to be joined today by
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a very special guest co host, a writer, actor, one
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of the funniest stand up comedians doing it. She's a
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co host to the scroll down on head Gum. You
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can go get her stand up album The Woke Bully
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from eight Pound Gorilla Rectors. Please welcome the hilarious and
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brilliant Marcella. Oh my god, thank you so much. Just
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me Marcella a k A. Bitcher Prior a k A.
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Quick Latina a k A. My dad's dad. I can't
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believe you would brag about your father's seventy of the birthday,
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Jack Face a k A. Some of the best on
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the planet, isn't our Android users. Okay, let's just clear
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that up right now. Of course, thank you for having me.
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It's wonderful having you. How have you been? Are you
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know what I've been. I've been doing a little road
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road gigs here and there, and uh, I'm in love Jack,
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So that's fine. Look at then. Yeah, I know, and
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and I'm not And I don't have COVID. Every time
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I travel and I come home, I have to, like
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I just kind of isolate myself a little bit for
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a few days just to make sure and I don't
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have it. So I'm happy. Yeah, So you're home now
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from a from a road swing. Yeah, to come in Seattle.
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Sorry if you missed it. I'm going to joy Let,
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Illinois this weekend opening for the Bass Barcelon and actually
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next week and I'll be at the San Francisco Punchline
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February six and nineteenth. If you guys want to come
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see me for that too. I know if you guys
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love me out there, are you now? Uh? Well, Washington,
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if you if you missed Marcella, you fucked up. There's
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no other way to put it. Actually, there is another
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way to put it. In September, I'll be back in Seattle.
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So there you go, that you're ready, then I guess well, Marcella,
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We're thrilled to be joining our third seat by another
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one of the funniest stand ups doing it. You know
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him from Bob's Burger's the NFL Network. You can hear
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him every week co hosting the hit podcast Dumb People Town.
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He is the hilarious, the talented, the kind Daniel Van Come. Oh,
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thank you so much. Hek Danny from Rochelle there is
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thanks for having me here. I love when I get
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to do this show. I know, right, you were saying
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before we started recording, you were like, oh thank god,
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that's the first thing he said. I didn't even say hello. Yeah, Miles. Uh,
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we'll be back soon. Second to last Miles last episode
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supposed Uh we're not talking sucking, Yeah, fucking and sucking.
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You know, you know how Miles does out of the country. Yeah,
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and doing great. We miss him dearly, do we Jack?
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We do me being me? Listeners probably noticed the show
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is extremely threadbare as of late, you know, a week
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and a half into just me putting the show together,
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and I'm like, just recycling shit? Are you putting? Are
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you like doing the song thing? Are you're picking out songs? Yeah?
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Well no, our our listeners provide the songs. Oh, the
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songs at the end, and now that is all super
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producer Justin Smith. I just put the stories together and
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those are you know, it's getting thin out here. I
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think today's episode is just me gonna be like, so
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are you liking the super Bowl? Guys? Uh, you heard
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about this thing? Jack? Is it because you only subscribe
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to white News? Is that why? That's why it sounded
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spicy every week? That's right? It's uh, you know, I
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check out Tucker Carlson the night before and I just
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like kind of get get some takes, load up a
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little bit and then yeah, and then I always like
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to hear the takes from the folks are the guys
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that crooked who who did save America with their pod? Alright, Daniel,
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we are going to get to know you a little
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bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell the
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listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. Snoop
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Dog owns death Row. That is cool. I'm happy about that. No,
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that that definitely deserves the mouth air horn. Yeah, no,
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we I will allow it. So we're gonna talk about
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that and just other like brands that should be owned
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by the very talented people who made them. We're gonna
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the big games coming up. So I I read a
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story about how people feel about the NFL and it
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just mad sent me on a sent me spiraling on. Now,
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I just want to ask you guys, how as stand
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up comedians you deal with this country, Like, how how
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it seems to you guys? As right now, we are
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going to talk about dips. I feel like the Super
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Bowl is dip Christmas. So we're we're gonna talk about
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you know, our favorite dips. Any any thoughts you guys
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have on dips? And we might even get to the
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movie Death on the Nile. Maybe the most Cursed movie
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of the Year. I just want to make sure we
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talked about the dips. Okay, Yeah, we're going to get
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to the talking about There's always at the beginning, like
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one story that I'm like, well, we're not missing that one,
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and that is that is it for today's episode. That's agree,
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But before we get to any of that ship, before
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we get to even the dips, Daniel. We do like
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to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
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I went, you know, because just like you guys like
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we're you know, like if you're researching a bit or
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you're putting a show together, sometimes my search history would
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be dominated by that, like mine and Rory Scobel and
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I have a podcast called pen Pals where people send
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us letters and so yesterday I was trying to figure
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out what somebody meant, like what they're referencing, So that
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took over a lot of it. But I wanted to
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go with something that was personal from my own and
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it was something I saw on TikTok and then I
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wanted to research to see if I could buy it.
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It is called the Mega Horn x L t P,
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so it's a t P a K A. I wouldn't
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have called it TV. It looks like a tent to me,
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but it has a like port for like a chimney pipe,
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and then you can also buy like a wood burning
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little like stove and heater to put into it. It's
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meant to go into this. I've just begin the last
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year and a half, I've just become obsessed with like
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camping an outdoor accommodations, not just things to use and
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have to make your out door experience even better. I
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went down a big rabbit hole after I started watching
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the show Alone. Have you guys seen Alone? I have
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heard many podcasters talk about Alone, but I am somewhat
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reality TV averse, but that one sounds like it should
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be on my list of wants to check. It's more
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of a docuseries than it is reality TV. It's just
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people living outside in alone, crazy remote Harry is and
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it it shows me everything I don't know how to do,
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Like I would never survive, And so I think that's
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why I'm obsessives. Like man, they know how to build
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a shelter. I have no idea how to do any
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of that. So would you ever do with though? Like
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for a week, Yes, Rory, Rory and I are doing
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a like outdoor wilderness training, like three day or five
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day thing. We have not found the dates yet. I
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feel like it's more of a warm weather thing I'd
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like to do. But I'm just always happy when his
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wife gets a break, when Rory his wife gets as So, uh,
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we're gonna go do it, and I'm gonna hopefully learn
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some stuff like either one of you know how to
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make a fire. I know how to make a fire,
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got a fire pit, but like getting me out, I
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don't lighter a couple editions on New York times. He
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uses like kindling and then some very dry firewood, like
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he can't have been outside in the moisture for at
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least a couple of years, And then I might be
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even that. Are you going with the triangular structure or
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you do a log cabin when you build a fire?
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I do. I do triangular structure. Just lean a couple
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of things against each other to do that too. Yeah,
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the log cabin lasts you a lot longer. Yeah, get
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me a finger so I can go, Hey, you can
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you like this fire for me? Right? That's the only
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tool you need? Yeah? Hey, you right? So I love it.
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So that's what I recently searched. Was the mega horn? Excellent?
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That sounds cool? It is it looks so cool, trying
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to make self sound all outdoorsy and uh mcguy brish,
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But I did. I did leave out the main ingredient,
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which is a gas can needs to be full, like
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it can't be halfway full. I've found I need. I
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need all these at all is a So the wood
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burning stove is that something you're kind of toting out
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there into the middle of the wilderness with yourself. It's
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very compact. I wonder if how much you have to
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assemble it's right too, It's like that might be the
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hardest part of for somebody who doesn't do it camping
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is knowing everything you need to bring and then packing
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it to be able to carry it, because what do
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you do. You drive somewhere ideally right, and then you're like,
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all right, I'm gonna hike five miles or six miles,
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Like I have to be able to take all this
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with me. Thing like on that show alone, they're allowed
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to take one personal photo and then ten survival items
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and that's it. So they know exactly what they're That's
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why they're building shelter and starting fires and stuff like that.
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Would items would be I have no idea. I mean
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I think you'd want like a water They have those
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water filter things you can like pouring like it's a drug,
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self contained water filter. I think that's probably key. And
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then they have those little I'm saying it's wrong because
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I don't even know, like a flint stick, things that
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like start the fire for you. That because they haven't
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heard of water and heat. Key right, And then I've
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learned from watching the show. They have things that are
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they look like knives, but they're also saws. I think
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that's crucial. And then fishing line, I think because I'm
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not good at hunting or cleaning like an animal like,
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but but you think you'd be able to just have
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loose fishing line and just like catch something with it,
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just like g they'll create yeah, or they'll they'll they'll
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weave a gill net and then drop that in and
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then pull the gill in that in each day exactly
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what that is? That's cool? Yeah, I don't know what
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did I say? Five things? Yeah, I'm half way there.
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How many how many of the people end up eating
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that personal photo? Is that? Because I feel like I
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think that's day one, and I've heard that it tends
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to be the people who have the most body mass
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tend to win every time. That's a critique i've heard
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of alone, is that people. Yeah, dude, I went on
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a juice cleans it was. It was a three day one.
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It was my first one, and I did in two
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and a half days because I know myself, and within
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a day I was like, I'm I think I'm killing myself.
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I think I'm dying. I'm too thin to be doing
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that type of ship. But I had to for health reasons,
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and uh, I yeah, I can't imagine I would pass
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out right even after two and a half days. Did
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you feel cleansed? Like I've never done one? You know what?
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I had very healthy poops. That's what I had. I
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had very like when it was like back when I
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was a teenager. My poops were very healthy and that's
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how they were. So sorry, I don't mean to talk
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about make anybody and talk about poops, but I'm sure
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you guys saw there's a company that's encouraging people to
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a biday. Company that's encouraging people to post pictures of
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their poops after the Super Bowl, did you guys? Yeah,
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she's doing this bowel super bowel Monday. Yeah, super Bowl Monday,
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that's what they're calling it, all right, Yeah, and they're
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giving away like ten dollars to the best. So maybe
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if you still got just enough time to go on
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this juice cleanse and then create biggest dump of your
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life and win the TA shout out to me? Is
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it they are they judging based on size formata? To
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tell you what the funk they're judging on this? Yeah,
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Like are they if you win, like, like you gotta
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be dropping BoA's? Is that what you You gotta be
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tempted to try. I'm not gonna lie. I've spoken before
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on this podcast about my now seven year old it
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and how he grew up as one of eight in
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Philly and he and his older brother it was like
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a way to brag that like they had eat well.
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They would save like their biggest poops in a shoebox
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and like yeah and show them to each other. I
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mean that that gives you a sense of what the
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you know, what eight kids living together smelled like? Is
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that Like that wasn't noticeable, Like people people weren't like,
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what the fund is happening? The second they walked in
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the front door. That's wild. Ye, that gives us a
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sense of your trauma, Jack, because I just learned a
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little piece about you and your family history. Yeah, that
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tells me a little bit about you know that I
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didn't know before. Yeah, it was very awkward when I
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was a teenager and I went into his closet and
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it was just shoeboxes. Was like the end of the pressige,
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but just shoe boxes and shoe boxes of of poops.
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But they were all very impressive and well formed. So
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he's been training for this super bell Monday. Have them submit, Daniel,
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what was the name of the of the thing you searched?
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Mega horn XL t P. But they don't know at all.
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I think it's like an eight person. I don't I
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wouldn't need that big. Give me a three or four.
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There you go. Yeah, but maybe you want it big
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because you you do have a fire going inside your tent.
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You never know who's gonna stop a fire inside the tent.
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Is that well kind of depending on how you set
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your tent up on your shelter. A lot of people
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do it on a loan, like their fire is inside
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their living space, and that's gone very awry for a
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few people on the show. Yeah, but I would think
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if you were going to have you would want a
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big size t P or tent. If if you have
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a even the wood fire, you know, contained wood fire
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burning like stove with a pipe coming out the top,
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you'd still want to be able to have some distance
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from that, I think. Yeah, I thought that one of
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the ideas behind the t P was that you could
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have a fire in there and the smoke would go
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out through the top. Yes, but yeah, like what are
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those called moms? It was like mid century fireplaces that
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people go absolutely not for that are ridiculously expensive. You've
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seen him. It's like a it looks like a little
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portable fireplace with a pipe going straight up. Yeah, I
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have Ah, that's what I was picturing when you were
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talking about like a portable fireplace, just like you have
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the fire in like a looks like a little microwave
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the wood burning, and then then and then it's a
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metal plate on top of it to serve as a
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hot plate for cooking things while you're in your TP,
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or you can just have a hot plate. What is something,
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Daniel that you think is overrated? Okay, I don't know
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how controversial this is gonna be. It might not mean
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anything to you if you haven't experienced it. There are
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people that I will say, we not even me, people
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that we respect and love, that we are friends with,
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that love this thing. And I am not a negative person.
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I like liking things, but in my person opinion, Yellow
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Jackets is wildly overrained it. I can't even I had
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to stop watching it. It was making so little sense
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to me, to the point where I still I want
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to you know, are we're so like separated from each other. Still,
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these friends of mine and ours are comedians, great writers
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who love it. I want to I can't wait to
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see them to be like, you have to tell me
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if I'm watching this show wrong, because I trust you're talking.
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You're talking to them right now. We are. We are
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yellow Jackets family at the Daily Zeigheist. We liked it.
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We we did it as one of the watches. I
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don't I'm this is the second time I've heard somebody
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who's pretty adamantly against Yellow Jackets. But I like things
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I don't like negative. Yea, yeah, no, it definitely didn't
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seem like it's struck with some people. I'm trying to
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because the the person who I heard talk negatively about
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it last time when like really hated the trailer or
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not the trailer the pilot which is all like about
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high school, like girls in high school. Can I tell
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you my number one? I can tell you multiple but
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can I tell you my number one? I had to
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bail on it. Marsela, is it okay if it's a
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episode three? I'm not giving away big stuff. I just answered.
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I watched the first episode and I was like, okay,
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so you know it. Okay, yes, okay, so you know it.
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So here's the deal. The coach loses a leg, right.
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Then he takes these kids out to practice shooting with
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the gun and AMMO that they've found right girl, one
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of the girls shoots really really well. Then a guy
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who's shooting well for provoked some not even that provoke,
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it doesn't even matter provoked provoked, points a gun at
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the girl at her head. Now we would all go, hey,
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guess who never gets the tough the gun again? This kid? Right, Yeah,
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he doesn't say that. Then they go back to the
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where they've set up their little camp where they're living
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a little cap and he says, all right, you guys
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need to go hunting for us. You know who I
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think i'll send. I'm gonna send the girl who did
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a good job, and I'm gonna send the guy with
19:17
the gun he gets to hold the gun. I'm gonna
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send him with the person he just pointed a gun
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at no supervision, no rationale for why you do that.
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Now Here, I'll tell you as a writer, alright, TV,
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here's how you fix that. The coach doesn't go with
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them when they practice, the same thing happens. Guy pulls
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gun nine girl. When they come back, since they're kids
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and teenagers and they don't want to like nark or
19:37
be on cool, he goes, how did shooting go? And
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they're like, went, okay, who was the best? And they
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kind of grudging and the go she was and he was.
19:44
But he doesn't know what just happened there. And then
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he goes, all right, well, you two are the ones
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going hunting. So he unknowingly sends this possi possible toxic
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situation where a guy just literally threatened to kill someone
19:55
with a gun to the head. But he doesn't know it.
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But the way they made this show, he does know it.
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So I ask you, Jack as a fan of this show. Why,
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why in the world from a storytelling, Jack, would this
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guy be like, Hey, you just tried to kill this girl.
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You guys should go hunting together. You know. I think
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the reason you don't like this show is because you're
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coming from a place of logic and television. It doesn't
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always loved like Hawkeye. Hawkeye is a there's a bat
20:27
shit crazy show, and I loved it because it knew
20:30
it was bat shit's crazy. It was like, we did
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we shot that arrow. We didn't need that arrow, but
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it was fun. That's why we did it. Yeah, this
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is this is a show that prides itself on being
20:38
a prestige drama that doesn't make I'm not saying you
20:43
have to dislike it. I'm not trying to dissuade. I'd
20:45
rather like it. But you can't tell me that makes
20:47
any sense. Well, I don't think it makes sense. I
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think it also is due just tried to kill that girl. Well,
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he didn't pull a trigger, did he. Jack, What I'm
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gonna say, why are you trying to kill me? Dude? Right?
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I don't know. I think everybody needs a thicker skin
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in America today, guns on whoever we want not the
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check I was expecting today was keeping not everybody, Not
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everybody gets a trophy, okay, Marcela, No, I I think
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that it is full of people making bad decisions in
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they're in situations they're poorly equipped to handle. And then
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I mean not really, he's an assistant hunt. Which also,
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just for the record, people we've talked about alone in outdoors,
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knowing how to shoot and knowing how to hunt not
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the same thing at all. But you don't hear me
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complaining about that, because who cares. Maybe they didn't know that,
21:45
but I definitely that dude just put a gun to
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that other girl's head. My only now your logic is
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now just convenient for you. I don't know, Daniel, You're
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starting to lose me on that one. I loved the performances.
21:57
I thought the casting was amazing prey Stige casting, TM
22:01
super producer around Hosy, I thought. And then when it
22:04
really starts to go off the rails in the later episodes,
22:08
that's what it really got me, got you in a
22:10
good way, like you took me. Yeah. Yeah, So I
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also just recently finished Station eleven and I'm into that
22:17
right now. I thought it was very good yeah, and
22:20
I'm watching Pam and Tommy and I love it. I
22:23
want I want to start it so much. I've heard
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it's wonderful, also problematic and from that weird time where
22:28
we look back and go, you know, like how with
22:30
the Brittany stuff, We're like, yeah, this person was dealing
22:33
with stuff and we all just villainized her, like treated
22:35
women just shitally like that. No one was saying, hey,
22:38
these this couple's privacy was completely violated, Like well, also
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we were I was a child, so and I think
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we were. But I'm saying we're all complicit. You were
22:50
a kid and you said nothing, and you were a
22:52
child and you said nothing. Definitely, But it is that
22:55
era of like they were trying to teach us that,
22:57
like you can violate people and it's fine because they're
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celebrity and it doesn't matter. And we've definitely learned from that.
23:02
I hope we get you. I can't wait to start
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that show. His dick talks. It's really stupid. That's the
23:08
worst part of the whole series. His dick is talking
23:11
to him. Yeah, sorry for the spoiler, Yes you saw.
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Are you talking about Jackass? No, I'm not talking about Jackass. Daniel,
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I'm not gonna men and drumming. Hey, let's let's a
23:25
bunch of other bitches. No, peutis, it's really you want
23:30
to talk about logic. Logic the p hole like works
23:34
like a mouth. You know what, I'm gonna let you watch.
23:37
I don't know, I have to watch. Yeah, I mean
23:40
it was one of those moments where, you know, because
23:42
I was watching, I was like, oh, you know, feeling
23:44
my feelings. I was like, yeah, we violated and they're
23:45
trying to humanize and yead YadA, YadA, And then that
23:48
happened and I had my jaw dropped. I put pause
23:52
and I had a big, boisterous a lot for about
23:54
five minutes because I couldn't believe. But they took something
23:58
that was I mean, it's a pretty serious story and
24:00
it's a great love story, right, yeah, they sprinkled that in.
24:03
So I'm sorry, Daniel. If you love logic, this is
24:06
not the movie I cried when I cried when end
24:12
uh Avengers Endgames started. So I coaster, Daniel. I don't
24:18
know if I like any of your opinion. I just
24:20
I just like the structure of the story you're telling me. Yeah,
24:25
I like operating within the structure. You're telling me. You're
24:27
telling me like all these people are super smart, this
24:29
is what they care about. And then they stopped doing
24:31
those things, and like, yeah, I would. I had similar
24:33
complaints with yellow Jackets in the like adult portion of
24:37
the story that felt like, Okay, this is more along
24:40
the lines of like Lost or like sub Lost. It
24:44
feels like that this is made by people who saw Lost.
24:47
But then they really stick the landing. And I loved
24:51
everything about the wilderness part of the story, so got
24:55
into that part too. That's it. Just yeah, okay, I'll
24:58
say for the last time, I would rather love it.
25:01
I don't like disliking things. Yeah, yeah, well I am.
25:05
Now just one question about the dick talking. What is
25:08
the voice? Roady? Is it? Like? What what kind of
25:11
voice are we talking? You go tune in? Can hey
25:15
calm south Park? Mr Hanky They hired the same guy
25:23
to Mr Hanky. Do is it like every other like
25:27
bar of soap or like like like new Snacks, like
25:31
anything that comes to life is just from New York. Hey,
25:37
wait for you guys to watch it so it will
25:40
catch you. It will get you. Oh for sure. There
25:43
was a There was also a second I was like,
25:44
am I going to keep supporting this because of that?
25:47
I don't like it? I was I felt like Daniel
25:49
in that moment where like the conflict really got me
25:51
and it made a second guess what I was watching,
25:53
And I was like, this was a choice they made.
25:56
This is you know, keeping it light. Let me just
25:58
move on. I'll ever forget being in the movie theater
26:01
when Bruno's dick talked to me like that was that
26:05
was something that was I was not expecting it, and
26:08
I had to look at myself in the mirror and
26:09
be like, why why is that such a such a
26:13
thing for me? You know process, I'm okay doing it
26:17
in the privacy of my home, but what Bruno does it?
26:21
And suddenly it's not cool. All right, let's take a
26:24
quick break. We'll be right back. And we're back, and Daniel,
26:39
we do Finally. I always love to ask our guests
26:42
what something they think is that's underrated. You know what
26:46
I think is underrated? And my family has done this
26:48
a lot so and I like doing it. Is uh,
26:51
take yourself somewhere profitably, like in the country, like the
26:55
Malibu Hills or whatever, like up into the wilderness. A
26:59
bet and uh just drive around and get let yourself
27:03
get lost. I think that like we have so we're
27:05
always so much like I have to do this. I
27:07
need to do this, like give yourself a little bit
27:08
of time to be be like, I don't know where I am.
27:10
You're eventually going to hit the ocean or the one
27:11
on one, so you can't get too lost. Just make
27:15
sure you have enough gas. And it's something that I
27:17
actually I I love doing, and I think it's an
27:21
underrated thing or just maybe even a I think people
27:24
don't do of like give yourself a little bit of
27:26
time or once in a while and just be like,
27:27
I don't know where I'm going. I'm just just taking
27:30
a little me time. Yeah, having the like GPS app is,
27:34
I think it makes me less likely to do that.
27:37
But it also like you should just be like, no,
27:39
I can always find my way back because I have this.
27:43
I'll just I just hit home whenever I get super
27:46
dupid lost, especially like in the hills, just just keep
27:49
trying to go down. You'll eventually get to you, Like
27:51
I said, either the ocean or the one on one.
27:53
You need to do fun stuff like should we go
27:54
left to go right? Even if you're just saying it
27:56
to yourself. I don't know, it's it's an underrated thing
27:58
that I like. I three, but I will say that
28:01
the daily like listeners that live in the country who
28:04
hear you say drive through the country like the malbou
28:07
Hills are really going to they react, there's no, it's
28:11
weird and you're so right. A lot of people don't
28:13
realize you get forty minutes outside of l A and
28:17
you are in Like I had family come visit and
28:19
I took them like an hour north and they were like, oh,
28:21
this is all agriculture where this is Like I was like, yeah,
28:24
you're very quickly out and as a born and raised
28:27
in a little farmtown Rochelle, Illinois and spending a lot
28:31
of time in Wisconsin, I was born and raised in
28:34
that like very like expansive area and even then I
28:37
like drive around getting lost. But you're so right. A
28:39
lot of people adult they think you're just driving around
28:42
like gates and mansions, and there are obviously there are
28:45
some of those up there, but you could also very
28:47
be like I think that's a mountain lion, Like you
28:49
can be out there. Yeah, it's still California. M I
28:53
will also say this is a romantic idea, but as
28:57
a woman and any woman listening don't recommend you do
29:00
gotta tell your home girls where you're going, but I
29:02
do it isn't it's a nice idea? Yeah, yeah, that's
29:06
true too, Like if you you know, I wouldn't want
29:07
to be without without service, right yeah? Yeah yeah. It
29:12
definitely is the start too many a terrifying horror movie.
29:17
It's how Yellow Jacket started. Now, yeah, all right, I
29:22
like it. Let's let's get into some news. Specifically, Snoop
29:26
Dogg now owns Death Row, which I don't know this story,
29:32
Like I I feel like every once in a great while,
29:35
capitalism works and the person who deserves to own something
29:38
gets to own it. The the NPR article announcing this
29:43
development does include like just a soul withering that about
29:50
like how he acquired it from private equity firm managed
29:53
by Blackstone, and then a senior managing director of Blackstone
29:58
like weighed in on what he thinks of the acquisition.
30:01
I'm just like, who couldn't possibly give a fuck what
30:06
a senior managing director at Blackstone thinks about Snoop Dog
30:09
owning Death Row. But it does seem like this is
30:11
how the world should work. He he's probably the biggest
30:14
reason that kids still think it's cool to wear a
30:17
death Row T shirt. And I'm curious to hear what
30:21
he's what he's gonna do with it. Yeah, I mean,
30:24
knowing snoop, he's probably gonna like invest in like the young,
30:28
the young up and comers, especially in the l A area,
30:30
because he loves to support the youth. Um, so I
30:33
do you hope he he does invest in the young
30:35
rappers in in Los Angeles area? Mhm. I love when
30:40
I don't know if this is a direct one to one,
30:42
but like any musician that owns all their publishing rights,
30:45
it always makes me so happy. But then you hear,
30:49
did it already happen? Wasn't David Bowie's state auctioning off
30:53
is publishing rights? I didn't know that, or maybe maybe
30:57
they are going to or they already have right and
31:00
for some reason I'm thinking like million dollars or something
31:04
like it, it went for I prefer one venture capitalists
31:08
own to the publishing rights. That's always been my thing.
31:10
I think they make smart decisions and they have the
31:14
best interest of you and said you need to not
31:17
be of the art to know what to do with
31:20
the art, check in with David kest and Baum, a
31:24
senior managing director of Blackstone, and find out what he
31:27
thinks is going to happen, what he thinks should happen
31:30
with the publishing of David Bowie music. But yeah, so
31:34
this I wanted to do like other other things that
31:38
should be owned by the person most Like, so, Michael
31:41
Jordans owns the Charlotte Hornets, but I feel like, in
31:45
a just world that that's great. I'm glad that Michael
31:47
Jordan owns the Charlotte Hornets. I feel like he should
31:50
own the Bulls instead, And I also feel like he
31:53
should own it with Pippen and Rodman, which would make
31:56
it way more entertaining than give us something to read
31:58
about every single day. Oh for sure, Dr j and
32:01
Alan Iverson should own the seventy six ers. I was
32:05
trying to think of like another entertainment one like maybe
32:07
Trey Parker and Matt Stone should own Comedy Central or something.
32:11
Definitely should. Dan van Kirk should own Chili's Right, I
32:16
would love to own Chili Cheesecake Factory either. Great, sign
32:21
me up for Yeah, yeah, it's a thing. But am
32:25
I crazy? This is what I think when it comes
32:27
to music. I feel like who better than the person
32:30
who created it? Yeah, But like actors, like we don't
32:35
get to own anything stand ups. We should be able
32:37
to own all of our own stuff, right, but like
32:41
and hopefully we do. But like, I don't know if sometimes,
32:46
like the face of the organization is as good to
32:49
be the person owning. It's just a lot when like
32:51
athletes try to become coaches even and you're like, well
32:54
that didn't really work out. Yeah, no, that's fair. I
32:59
like I'm assuming that there's a good management team that
33:03
will like help, you know, run the day to day
33:07
on death row and it's not just would answering the phone,
33:14
grinding through some Excel spreadsheets. Yeah. Remember when Michael Jackson
33:22
owned the Beatles music. Yeah, yeah, they had a big
33:28
falling out, but it was just funny because he was
33:31
just letting, like every car commercial have a Beatles song.
33:34
He didn't give up. He was like, nobody can have mine,
33:37
but you can play this fucking Beatles ship. Right. Yeah.
33:41
I feel like the nineties were like every commercial it
33:45
was just like a Beatles jukebox. It was like that
33:48
which Beatles song is going to come on for this
33:50
HP printer cartridge at that's wild And Michael Jackson was like,
33:54
this is hilarious. Like I don't know what the logic was.
33:58
If he was like they stole from black artists, so
34:00
I'm gonna steal their ship. I don't know what his
34:03
logic was. That makes it feel better, Especially if that
34:06
was like led Zeppelin or something like that, then I
34:08
would go, well that, I'm all good with any of that. Yeah,
34:12
Oh that's so funny. Any other any other ideas for
34:16
who should own like people who shouldn't? I was trying.
34:19
I was trying to think of like Kendrick should own something,
34:22
but maybe it's just his own music, Like should Tarantino
34:26
and Mirmax Not that like Tarantino as much, but you
34:30
make a good point, like when Tarantino didn't he buy
34:33
the Vista here in town. That was dope. Yeah yeah
34:36
that yeah, Like I wish him and a couple other
34:40
like big time cinephile movie loving people would buy the
34:43
arc Light, which for anybody outside of the Malbu Hills
34:46
is a like a chain of like movie theaters that
34:49
we had here that were just wonderful and beautiful that
34:51
are defunct because of the pandemic. I actually read this
34:55
morning that Joe Rogan owns the N word. Alright, come on, no,
35:00
what certainly Joe Rogans trying to take it back. Yeah, alright,
35:08
the big games coming up, and as I was looking
35:10
for a big game story, I ran into to this
35:14
news story on I like to look at the front
35:16
page of Yahoo. You guys ever do that? Yes? Yeah,
35:20
just see what it's It's the best. I haven't in years,
35:24
But it used to be a thing I would do
35:25
if I was super bored in another life at work,
35:28
would be like, let's just see what's on Yahoo. Yeah. Anyways,
35:31
the main NFL related story on the front page of Yahoo,
35:35
which is like, you know, top five news sources in America,
35:39
is like how the culture wars have taken a toll
35:43
on Republican support for the NFL. And these are basically
35:48
people saying I no longer like the NFL because they're
35:51
too nice to black players and coaches, and it's just
35:57
I don't know. It's so it's like six wrong turns
36:01
from like the universe of the truth, Like how do you?
36:07
And that's so that's what Then I was like, oh,
36:09
I have you know to working touring stand ups on
36:14
I'm curious, like, do you notice the difference. Do you
36:17
feel like when you're going out on stage there's like
36:20
more of an opportunity that there's gonna be like a
36:22
landline in the in the audience and somebody is just
36:25
gonna not even be in the same universe as you.
36:29
Where where where are you guys at with the United
36:32
States go? This is really adorable question because it's innocent.
36:36
It's route in innocence, because you're basically asking us when
36:38
we go on the road what our experiences And everybody
36:42
knows that going on the road fucking sucks. These people
36:45
are dumbasses and um, and that is just you have
36:49
to figure out how much you want to compromise your
36:51
material in yourself when you do certain gigs, and some
36:55
people don't give a funk their material is not good,
36:58
so they can perform in front of anybody and be
37:01
fine and not offend anybody, and and everything is fine
37:04
and it doesn't matter what their background is. And then
37:06
there's instances where you realize, like I did a festival
37:10
a few years ago and it was a nice mix
37:13
of comedians different backgrounds, nice diverse mix. And then like
37:17
the audience was just older white folks, and you know,
37:20
the comics that played it safe did great, and then
37:23
some of us who just just went and did our
37:26
sets start to finish without adjusting, we had a terrible time.
37:30
And you also know, like you won't get asked back.
37:33
You know, you won't work in this venue again. And
37:36
that's like, you know, something you have to like accept
37:38
or not accept, and that just depends on what you
37:40
want to do. But I do want to say though
37:43
that the other interesting thing about this article, it's like
37:47
people are watching the NFL less and on the left
37:50
side it's because how badly they treat the black players,
37:54
and on the right side it's how good they're they're
37:57
treating the black players. And then like if you don't
37:59
watch works or just like these people are still getting
38:01
paid too much money, like people still spend way too
38:04
much and invest too much when it comes to professional athletes,
38:08
and it's just what a wild ride and Daniel it
38:12
is for you. But yeah, no, I mean it's similar.
38:14
I think like whenever I found it, somebody will get
38:17
mad at something I say. I've gone as far to
38:20
like I asked that, Like I'll be like you're what
38:23
are you mad about? What are you mad about? And
38:26
then usually like if somebody was like, well, dude, I
38:28
just didn't like like that fucking ship you said about
38:31
wearing masks or whatever, and then I'll go, you're sick
38:34
of it, like you're sick of you to go around
38:36
this road? Do you're sick of like masks? Like you
38:38
don't like them? They're like no, Like you want to
38:40
know something, I don't like them either? Who out here
38:43
is like I like, so like I'll try to like
38:45
go into it, and then also go, so you you're
38:48
mad about something I've said, And then I go, don't
38:50
you aren't you? Am I crazy if you're thinking you
38:53
come from the side of things where they keep saying
38:55
your feelings so but not your feelings just just mine,
39:00
not yours though, So you're mad about your and so
39:02
then I'll try to like whatever. And then I mean,
39:05
I've had people who are up and like, you're more
39:07
than welcome to leave. I'll make sure you get your
39:09
money back, and I'm like, I just just so you know,
39:11
I'm not being mean to you. I'm saying you definitely
39:14
would be having a better night somewhere else, and you
39:16
have my permission to go have that night. I try
39:19
to like take it out, but to be also to
39:21
go back to like my drive around and get lost
39:23
in the wilderness type thing. Let's be honest here, I'm
39:27
a six ft too straight white male having any sort
39:31
of aggressive conversation that I want with any person, knowing
39:34
probably with the exception of a weapon, I'm gonna be fine.
39:38
So I think it's completely different if you're a person
39:41
of color, or a woman, or or you know, I
39:45
don't know. I look, I always say, I have a jokeer,
39:48
I'm like, I look like you guys think you know
39:50
where I was on January six, like, and then I'm
39:55
usually like and if you said, if you're thinking cheesecake factory,
39:58
you're correct. So it's different, like where can you come from?
40:01
You know, to be able to like have that. But
40:03
that's kind of my usual approach to over like what
40:05
do you mad? Why are you mad? Because usually the
40:08
person I'm talking to either looks exactly like me or
40:11
is not my size, and so I don't you just
40:14
have to play it differently. I mean, we have a
40:16
friend who's a comic that like some guy like started
40:18
going at her and no one it like took way
40:22
too long breathing other comics to be like we whoa
40:25
whoa whoa dude, and I would you'd love to watch
40:27
that video and go oh I would step in, but like, yeah,
40:31
you would. Now you know, you turned this video on
40:33
and you read the caption before it even started. You
40:34
know exactly what's going on. That's funny. I'm sorry. I
40:37
was on stage and my and a lady was you
40:40
could tell she was ready to charge the stage. And
40:42
my friend Lydia pablovitch To is a regular opener for
40:44
me and a regular on this podcast and great, but
40:47
she afterwards she told me she was like, oh, I
40:50
took my shoes off as soon as I saw her
40:52
get up and she had heels on. And I was like, yeah,
40:55
that's because not everybody knows, like what's what, and people
40:58
always try to say that you know, they would do
41:00
you know, do their do what they gotta do? Oh
41:02
I would I would have gotten It's like, no, you
41:03
wouldn't eat. Most people are not going to do that.
41:06
But you also reminded me of one time I was
41:07
in Arizona and this white girl was getting so mad
41:10
at everything I was saying. Everything I was saying. She
41:13
finally got up to leave and I go, oh my god,
41:16
just you know, you're just a drunk white girl, like
41:18
you know whatever, whatever, And she was like, oh my god,
41:21
that's so offensive that you would say that. I was like,
41:24
what that you're drunk and she's like, no, you have
41:26
to bring race into it. And then what was the
41:30
best part was I look over, there's been a there
41:32
was like this older white guy who hated my whole set,
41:35
didn't laugh at a single joke. He literally just sat there,
41:37
but he wasn't rude about it. He just stopped there
41:39
with his arms crossed, like I want this night to
41:41
be over. And I looked at him and I go, sir,
41:44
is it offensive that I called you a drunk white
41:46
girl who goes no, that's what she is. And I
41:48
was like, see if this man who has hated me
41:50
all night agrees with me, Like, you know, you're in
41:54
the wrong, lady. But it's it's just you never know
41:57
what to expect. And Daniel's right, you know, exactly what
42:00
you look like is going to determine a how you
42:04
are accepted or rejected, and also how you choose to
42:08
deal with these scenarios. Because even in like the festival,
42:10
I was saying, me and and one comic he's gay
42:14
and white and and he was not trying to adjust
42:17
his set and we were both like having the worst time.
42:20
And then there was a black comic who was like, no,
42:22
you just gotta entertain every like he was fine entertaining
42:24
these people and he didn't care. You know that he
42:27
kind of had to adjust his set um he like
42:29
happily did it. And that's the thing. Everybody deals with
42:32
it how they're going to deal with it. There's no
42:34
right or wrong. Like you know, I always think about
42:36
two like comics who are single or unmarried or no children,
42:41
you're way more willing to risk all kinds of ship,
42:44
like when you got a kid and a husband or
42:47
a wife or whatever, Like you're like, no, I gotta
42:49
make this money, I gotta pay these bills. I got
42:51
a mortgage, I got a mouth defeat. Like the mentality
42:54
is very different. And and again not that's not true
42:58
for everyone, but I know that I know that there's
43:00
a lot of comics who have a fucking done ship
43:03
they don't want to do because they're just like, I
43:04
gotta feed my kid. Literally got a few of my
43:06
kids yeah, Yeah, that's a really good point about those
43:11
of us who are you know, just built like a
43:13
brickshit house and like nobody will funk with us like that.
43:17
It's easier for us, right Jack, Are you serious right now?
43:22
You're the worst host? No that have you guys noticed
43:30
a change at all, though, Like, do you do you
43:33
feel like it's different than it was even pre pandemic?
43:38
I mean, I think pre I think there's a lot
43:42
of times there's just a vibe of sometimes even the
43:45
people who are going to agree with every single left
43:50
leaning point slash joke hopefully right that should be all
43:53
caps joke that I'm gonna make, even they sometimes will
43:57
tighten up because they they want to be in a
44:01
group with everybody laughing, and they want everything to go well.
44:04
And they're certainly not excusing anybody who's on the other
44:07
side of any fence or line or wall or whatever,
44:09
but they're saying, you can feel sometimes to me like, um,
44:13
don't split us up, like I don't. I don't like
44:15
I don't because I don't want to have to deal
44:16
with this asshole that I just the person next to
44:19
me who I'm about to find out is an asshole,
44:20
and until then, I didn't know that. But you know,
44:23
if I've learned anything from like comedians pontificating on Twitter,
44:26
it's that I need to challenge you all the time,
44:30
and I need to take you through an abandoned amusement
44:33
park of broken glass. So that's what I'm trying to do. No,
44:36
I just I think it's just everybody's a little bit
44:39
tighter no matter what side they're on, they can just
44:41
be a little bit tighter of like that hope and Marcel,
44:43
you might not speak to this better than me too,
44:45
but that hope of like when you can when you
44:48
are taking an audience where like I don't know, some
44:49
of you are gonna agree with what I'm gonna say,
44:51
and some of you might agree with me and get
44:53
tensed up because the person next to you is not agreeing,
44:56
But you can feel that like that feeling of I
44:59
hope this payoff is so funny, and when it is,
45:02
they're like so released, so relieved because everything is just
45:06
socially just in tense. Yeah, I mean yeah, And that's
45:09
that's true. That's always been true, and that's like depending
45:12
on you know, guy, I, like I said, I have
45:16
opened for Felipe for many many years, and his audience
45:19
is predominantly Latino, probably predominantly like ma cheese momentality. And
45:24
and there's a joke that I did actually on Two
45:26
Dog Queen Season two, episode three, I Believe, and I
45:29
talked about loving rap music. I say I'm a feminist,
45:33
and people when I would just say that, like, they
45:35
would turn on me, right and now you feeling yeah exactly,
45:40
And then and then I would just say like, oh,
45:41
I love rap music, and I go into this whole
45:43
act out and by the end of it, they're fucking
45:45
with me. And it worked damn near every time, and
45:48
I loved it, and it was the payoff was always
45:50
worth it. But now I'm now I'm in a scenario
45:52
where I'm like, oh, like because I was when I
45:54
was working that out. That was back when I was
45:56
just a feature. Now I'm headlining and like I'm I
45:59
am trying to apple and you know what do I
46:01
really want to say? Like how how much do I
46:04
want to push it? But also I do want to
46:05
make people laugh, like unlike some of these Claptor comedians,
46:09
the joke is should should be the priority, and making
46:12
people laugh is a priority. And if you're a good joke,
46:15
right or whether you're the left or the right, Like,
46:17
you should be able to construct a joke that will
46:19
get people to laugh by the end of it. And
46:21
I think part of the problem too, is that sometimes
46:25
audiences want to be offended. Like right wing people will
46:28
come to a show and they'll be like, oh, woman,
46:30
she's gonna complaining about being a woman. It's like, yeah,
46:33
but I should like, that's that's okay, and if I'm
46:36
good at it, you will enjoy this joke, and you know,
46:40
and that's you know, for whatever people's background is, it's
46:42
the same thing. It's like, if the jokes are good,
46:44
then you should be able to enjoy it. But I
46:46
fucking got a round of applause this weekend in Tacoma.
46:49
Shout out to Tacoma. It's this joke that I always
46:53
get people fucking tightening up. I had to switch the
46:56
ending because I needed to explain to people, like, I'm
46:59
not the guy in the story. This guy and the
47:01
wheelchair is like he's a bighead, you know, But because
47:04
they hear wheelchair, they're just like, oh my god, this
47:07
is offensive. Yeah, and this both sides, always both sides.
47:11
So I had to change the joke and it worked.
47:13
But what was funny wasn't Tacoma. I didn't have to
47:15
do that second part. They were fucking like, yeah, that
47:18
guy's a fucking prick. We are with you. Got a
47:22
round of a plot and I still I was like shocked.
47:24
I was like, oh my god, they fucking got it.
47:27
And I was like, what happened into coma that all
47:30
these people got this joke without the little buffer at
47:34
the end. You never know what to expect with an audience.
47:37
Never I know, I'm but I guess the same as Plug.
47:40
But you just like, I'm about to start my tour
47:42
back up and I'm doing the Pacific Northwest, So now
47:44
I'm way more excited to do Seattle than they were.
47:50
You know what it is to some some cities that
47:53
love comedy, they are even more excited than ever to
47:58
watch comedy. Like one of the best audiences I've ever
48:00
performed for are the troops overseas. Those motherfucker's are just
48:05
happy to have some touch of home. Like whether they
48:09
agree with you or not, they don't give a fuck.
48:10
They're just so even I bombed and they were like,
48:14
thank you for coming out here. Usually if you bomb
48:16
everybody knows after the show, nobody wants to look you
48:18
in the eye, but they were like, came and shook
48:21
my hand, And honestly, there's a lot of places right
48:25
now that that's what it feels like. People are just
48:27
so fucking happy to be out of the fucking war
48:30
zone and be out and enjoying themselves and having a laugh.
48:34
And I feel like people. I think comics are getting
48:37
away with a little bit more than before, but that's
48:39
because audiences are just having more fun. To end on
48:43
a positive note, yeah, let's I mean, that's how you
48:47
fucking co host a podcast right there. Let's take it
48:50
into a break and we will be right back to
48:54
talk about Super Bowl dips. Wait, can I do that?
49:06
And we're back? Yeah, do it, but leave this in okay,
49:10
and we're back. Chack did and didn't. I always wanted
49:16
to do that, And we're back, Jack. Uh you that
49:21
was so much better uh than when I do it
49:26
on n I don't know it's super bowling or something
49:34
that that that sentence perfectly sums it up. In Los Angeles,
49:38
I don't know what they're they're going to for a
49:43
third week in a row, have a home game where
49:46
they have like no fans in the stadium. People keeping like,
49:49
can you believe it? It's the first time that the
49:52
city hosting the Super Bowl is the team playing in
49:55
that super Bowl. And I'm like, yes, And it couldn't
49:58
have happened to a city where they care. Last Yeah,
50:01
I mean it has seems like it's in Detroit and
50:03
the Lions are going to the super Bowl, or Minnesota
50:06
and the Vikings are going or you know, Phoenis and
50:08
it's there, and so we saw that. That what that
50:11
looks like when the town that's so seeing it actually
50:14
cares about the team that's in the game. And you
50:16
are not going to see that this year when they
50:20
would pant around that forty Niners game, it was way
50:23
more forty Niners fans than Rams fans. And also, fine,
50:28
who cares to just be you know what? It needs
50:29
to be filled to people who are happy to be there,
50:32
who aren't gonna fight with each other over about it.
50:34
That's it. That's the two rules. I want you to
50:36
be happy to be there, and you don't need to
50:38
fight someone. No one from the team is going to
50:40
come out and pat you on the shoulder after you
50:42
put someone to a coma and go hey, even though
50:44
we lost, or hell, even though we won, it really
50:47
doesn't feel complete until you beat up somebody in the
50:50
stands of the parking lot to prove that. Yeah. And
50:53
also I always loft all time when players get done
50:56
and they you know what they do then because one
50:58
like Marcella said, millionaires, they hug each other because it's over,
51:04
because and they were actually playing the fucking game. So
51:07
I just want everybody who stands to be happy to
51:09
be there and not bring any sort of violence into it.
51:12
And they're usually not drunk yet. Hot My big hot
51:15
take difference between the players and the fans. I just
51:18
love the sports just so out of control that we're
51:21
just like, I just don't want violence at this game.
51:24
Sports fans are lunatics, have been. I never I never
51:30
get that part of it. Yeah, like I said, I
51:32
don't like hating stuff, so I've never My fandom is
51:34
never contention on feeling negative about anybody else. It's just
51:39
not me, and you have me and you have nothing
51:41
in common. Daniel, Here's what the super Bowl should be about.
51:45
I would personally, if I were offered a ticket to
51:48
the super Bowl, I don't think I would want to
51:51
go because I like, I feel like it is a
51:53
TV event and that part of that. It's not just
51:57
watching the commercials, which are so funny, you guys, but
52:01
the food is a big part of that. Specifically, I
52:06
feel like dips are a uniquely American culinary. Like not
52:12
not that America created the dip or dipping chips in something,
52:17
but this type of you know, it's almost exclusively ingredients
52:21
from a can in a lot of cases, or largely
52:25
very salty, mostly chemicals. I get excited about this, and
52:31
so the Takeout probably are number one source on the dailies,
52:36
Like guys, the fast food blog The Takeout did a
52:39
map of the top dips by state, like the most
52:44
uniquely searched Game Day dips. I guess it's a Google
52:47
trends thing, but they wrote an article about it, and
52:50
there's some there's some interesting stuff. I mean that you know,
52:54
you've got your seven layer dip seven layer in Alaska
52:58
and Hawaii they've just found out about this. Also Massachusetts,
53:02
but like Hallepeno Popper dip is California's most That sounds
53:07
that sounds good. I mean, I'm getting cream cheese, I'm
53:11
getting hallepeenos. Yeah, I have you never had a help
53:14
in your popper. No, I've definitely had my okay, but
53:18
I got out of But I've never had the dip. Yeah,
53:23
I've never had the dip either. Now I'm like, Illinois
53:25
is also the Hallepeenia popper dip. I've never even heard
53:28
of this before. You just neither, and I'm into it.
53:32
The other one that's incredibly popular that I'm actually not
53:36
as into is just the sound of it. I don't
53:39
think I've ever had it. Buffalo chicken dip. So good,
53:42
it's so good. Oh my god, chicken. There's something about
53:47
chicken in a dip and maybe I just need to
53:50
brow that's a fucking whole meal on a chip right there.
53:54
That is so the chickens just like kind of ground
53:58
up or what's the shredded tread and that chicken. I
54:01
didn't have a cat it, And I'm like, I'm in, yeah,
54:04
it's got to be chicken. Think of it. Think of
54:07
it if you could, if you did like buffalo chicken nachos, right,
54:11
you wouldn't think much of it in that context. To
54:13
just take everything that isn't the show and put all
54:16
the notch to the side, and that doesn't actually check
54:19
out what I just said. But you're just dipping the
54:22
night You're it's a deconstructed I'm with you logic is
54:26
a little lost. It's like yellow jackets. Is it there?
54:28
Is it not there? You know, I'm with you. It's
54:32
it sounds like a good dip. It's a meal. I
54:35
like a dip that has like a meal component to it.
54:38
Got your card, You've got your protein, you got your
54:40
Whatever the funk else did Organ think? Did Oregan I'm
54:44
looking at the state of Organ French dip? Did they
54:46
just think it was I don't think Oregon knows. No,
54:50
I blame I. I blame Google Trends for that. I
54:53
think whoever was on the map creation at Google Trends
54:58
was just assuming that that was like French onon dip
55:01
and didn't realize that they were doubling up both French
55:04
on and dip searches and the sandwich French dip Greek
55:08
Greek layer dip in Washington. I've never heard of that,
55:10
and I will eat it unless it's heavy olive, not
55:13
much of an olive. It's kind of have the calumnado olives.
55:18
That's how about Can we talk about Oklahoma and what
55:22
the hell they're doing cookie chocolate chip cookie dip. I'm
55:27
sure that's good, but I don't want that. Don't put
55:29
that with the rest of my dips. That's from later.
55:31
I disagree. I you guys, I don't like all this
55:34
negativity about these dips. Chocolate chip cookie dip. Yeah, that
55:39
means you not with the other dips. What do you mean,
55:43
desert go with your other's dips? You would put buffalo
55:48
chicken dip on the same plate as your chocolate chip dip?
55:52
And yeah I would, Daniel, Fuck yeah, I would. You
55:55
don't know me at all, ever, take that tone with
55:57
me on my podcast. I knew this was gonna happen. Uh.
56:03
About he's banned, He's banned from the ship forever, New Mexico.
56:09
About New Mexico smart he changed such a quick I'm easily. Oh,
56:13
I'm good. I'm good when everything's getting tough for me personally,
56:16
I just deflict. What about pizza dip? Is that on
56:19
the taco dip? I don't know what that means. I
56:21
don't know what state that is because I don't know states,
56:23
but pizza dip is in there. Crab rangoon dip. I
56:27
do love a good crab dip, and I just think
56:30
anything with cream cheese. I mean that's why most of
56:33
these yeah, yeah, I will yeah, I mean I so
56:38
I have a dairy allergy and I like to make exceptions.
56:42
Super Bowl is one of those days where I make
56:44
the exception. We have nachos, we have did you will
56:50
be entering the tushy contest, but you will not be winning. Yes, yeah,
56:54
I mean maybe not. You know, like if you get
56:56
a guys good pile, like the TP pile, like what
56:59
you guys are saying, I mean a little flag in
57:01
the top of the Yeah, yeah, I could. You know
57:04
what about what do you guys think a hog dip is?
57:08
I don't ye. That's gotta have like, that's gotta be
57:15
real fresh dip. You fucking have like layers of turkey
57:21
and mayo and lettuce. So there are two that are
57:27
it seemed to be intentionally mysterious. Missouri has green dip,
57:31
which I think is like what the Joker fell in
57:34
when he turned into the Joker. And then corn dip.
57:38
It feels where's corn dip? Corn dip? South Carolina? South Carolina? Yeah,
57:43
which just and some of them are very try it. Yeah, yeah, no,
57:47
I would try all the like I am struggling. I
57:50
don't know why. My initial instinct, probably because I'm a
57:53
hater was to immediately go to like, which of these
57:57
do I like the least? Because they all look fucking
57:59
awesome to me. You know what, I had to tell
58:04
my mom. I'm finally she's on board with me. You
58:06
gotta stop comparing foods. Stop comparing them, Jack, You gotta
58:10
respect them for what they are, enjoy them for what
58:12
they are. Just like that chocolate chip dip. Yeah, because
58:15
live next to the buffalo chicken dip. They serve their purposes. Guys,
58:19
you can't be comparing foods. Pizzas and better than tacos,
58:22
is better than Cheeseburgers are all good on their own, y'all.
58:25
This is the problem we have in our society too
58:28
much comparing what are your favorite things? Too dip? Like,
58:32
I'm a straight up corn chip I'm not crazy about Like.
58:37
I feel like pretzels should be better to dip, but
58:40
for some reason, I don't love them as much like
58:43
I love cheese on. That's one of my favorite. Yeah,
58:46
they're too thick and they like by getting them wet
58:49
that like adds this thing to it that I don't
58:51
I don't love because at that top layer gets soggy
58:54
really quick. Yeah, yeah, I mean I love a tortilla chip.
58:59
Yeah you go scoops? Are you going classic restaurant style?
59:02
Are you going rounds? You know? If I have a choice,
59:06
I like to get the strips because you get a
59:09
nice long tip in there. That's that means your technique
59:15
is off. The chart's good because I I gave up
59:18
on strips so long ago because they can, like even
59:22
when I'm sucking having some salsa, they usually break on
59:25
me the leverage. Yeah, but yeah, I think I'm just
59:28
too excited about different in the salsa. Yeah, the whole
59:31
cover here. You know what, And it's one of my
59:36
favorite tips and it wasn't on this And I'm happy
59:38
to give out the very easy recipe to anybody who wants.
59:40
It's so simple it will crush any party you have
59:43
to go to get some rowse. You can get whatever
59:46
you like, but rous is the way to go rowse.
59:48
Just straight out of tomato sauce and a and a
59:52
block of goat cheese, bake that and then just stir
59:57
that up and then This is one of my favorite thing.
59:59
Any any dip that incorporates this, and then you just
1:00:02
want to cut some little christinis a little bag yet
1:00:05
and you just got like a small little piece of
1:00:07
bread in that goat cheese and tomato sauce. I'm telling
1:00:10
you that's another on. People will lose it and you'll
1:00:13
be the easiest thing, the easiest thing to make, easiest
1:00:16
the rowsed. By the way, I think there are two
1:00:20
grocery items that I always over purchase when I'm grocery
1:00:25
shopping and never never don't use within like a month.
1:00:29
It's roused and it's uh. The Green Mountain Medium salsa
1:00:35
is like so fucking good. I like tomatoes. I like
1:00:40
a tomato sauce is where I'm coming from. But I
1:00:43
got tomatoes tattooed on me? Do you really? Yeah? That
1:00:47
is pretty cool. I don't want to. I was raised
1:00:51
there's the one. You could see one right there, but
1:00:53
I was. My dad had a tomato garden. We had
1:00:56
a my mom had a flower garden. My dad had
1:00:58
like a vegetable garden with tomato were like the main
1:01:01
So I love it. I'm with you. A nice fresh
1:01:03
tomato in the hot sun it's nice and juice like
1:01:06
when you pick it off, it's like soft because I'm
1:01:09
sitting in the sun. It's warm. You put little salts
1:01:11
on it, you a little salt, a little burrata, and
1:01:15
some basil. Damn, I'm just saying the whole tomato outside
1:01:19
of fresh like an apple. So all right, what last question?
1:01:27
Kind of I'm related to dips, but this is a
1:01:28
celebration of like pot luck style culinary creations, Like is
1:01:34
there a one of my friends makes a hash brown
1:01:38
cast role that is near the top of my list
1:01:41
of the best things I've ever put in my mouth.
1:01:43
There's this thing in that I think is from Southern Ohio,
1:01:47
or maybe I just had it a lot when I
1:01:49
lived in Southern Ohio. But it's called a buster bar.
1:01:51
Do y'all have y'all ever fun with a buster bar?
1:01:54
It's like Oreo cookie crust and like melted ice cream
1:01:58
and fudge and peanuts. It's really really good. And yeah,
1:02:05
I'm sure it exists elsewhere and just by another name. Yeah, yeah,
1:02:09
I recommend. Oh you know what I will I do?
1:02:12
You got to give a shout out to the lactose
1:02:13
people who aren't going to do what I do and
1:02:15
risk at all for some nachos. The Miyoko's brand cream
1:02:19
cheese at a little vinegar. You have your and you
1:02:22
just mix it up in there and then you basically
1:02:24
have a sary cream and then I mean they have
1:02:25
different flavors and ship. So if you're vegan and you
1:02:28
want like a dip just for yourself, get the Miyoko's brand.
1:02:31
It's the best dairy free brand of everything. Cheeses and sara,
1:02:35
I mean, and and cream, cheeses and butter and stuff.
1:02:38
And just add a little vinegar. Make your own little
1:02:41
sur cream dip for your ruffles. Okay, that for yourself.
1:02:45
It's so good. They have a scallion one that was
1:02:47
really good. M that's the thing too, guys. In Roche, Illinois,
1:02:51
I will crush just a big old bag of ruffles
1:02:55
and some just store bought French onion dip. Y Oh.
1:03:00
The only thing you gotta do is open a bag
1:03:01
and open a lid. Done where the party started. That's
1:03:03
what I was snacking on before I got on with you, guys.
1:03:06
I have my little teacher RNAs and I mean Yoko's dip,
1:03:10
and I was dipping them in there. And it's the best. Well,
1:03:14
speaking of the best, it's been wonderful to have you
1:03:17
both on on the show today, Daniel, Where can people
1:03:21
find you? Follow you all that good stuff? You know,
1:03:24
there's two things I want to plug, and that would
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have to be my pen my podcast pen Pals with
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Rory Scoville. People send us letters and then we write
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them back in audio form. It's their podcast. We just
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talk about it. If you thought I was mildly entertaining,
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check out and see if I'm any better over at
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We have Amy Man coming up. Um. It's just a
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really really fun show and sometimes it's just the two
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of us. It's great and I hope people check it
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I'm going back on tour, like I said, so March.
1:03:59
For first, I will be in Bend, Oregon, and then
1:04:03
the next night I am in Portland, Oregon, and then
1:04:07
on the third I am going to be in Seattle,
1:04:09
and then on the fourth I am going to be
1:04:12
in Salem, Oregon. And then I'm going back up north
1:04:15
to run to close out this run on the fifth
1:04:17
on Saturday in Mount Vernon, Washington. So go to Daniel
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So everything's at Daniel van kirk dot com. I hope
1:04:32
you check out pen Pals. Yeah are you? Are you
1:04:35
a fan of the Magnolia soundtrack? Do you? Yeah? Speak Man?
1:04:40
Oh my god? Really one of the mates to ever
1:04:43
do it? And no, that sucks. Why is Amy Man
1:04:48
affiliated with that? She? Uh? We did a show together
1:04:53
in mid December at Largo and um, I know I
1:04:57
didn't ask, but I always am like, I just like,
1:05:00
please play save Me. Yeah, And it's perfect every single
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time is and so is she? Yeah. Yeah, you gotta
1:05:10
love them. I know it's gonna take everything in my
1:05:12
power when we have around next week pen Pals recording
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to uh not Begger to play it there in studio.
1:05:18
I just she's so fucking cool, dude. You gotta you
1:05:21
gotta just like start singing it in your head, humming
1:05:23
it and then she'll be like, oh is that and
1:05:25
you got how do how do? Yeah, You're like, here,
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see if you think this is better Tom Cruise rendition
1:05:35
from the Is there a tweet or some of the
1:05:38
work of social media you've been enjoying being Yes, for sure,
1:05:43
I've also been, as I might have come through my
1:05:46
talk company. I've also been liking things where it's like
1:05:48
you're not asking anything of me too much. We need
1:05:52
to take places where nothing happens, like driving around so
1:05:55
at l A mag on Twitter Los Angeles Magazine. I
1:06:00
don't know if they're currently embroiled in some sort of
1:06:03
dumb ship thing, if they have a sorry, but they've
1:06:06
been tweeting out just like pictures of l A, like
1:06:10
randomly or most nights, and they're just like, good night
1:06:12
l A. And uh, they tweeted out one on two
1:06:15
seven two that is just a shot down fair facts
1:06:19
with cantors on the right, the sun setting and palm trees.
1:06:22
And you just see pictures like this Everyone's one and
1:06:24
you're like, that's fucking gorgeous and it didn't didn't hurt anybody,
1:06:28
So I'll show you, guys, that's that photo. Yeah, just
1:06:32
stuff like that, I like it has been, but yeah,
1:06:36
I was right, right they have Yeah, yeah, yeah, who's
1:06:39
ever running the photo part of their Twitter seems to
1:06:41
be okay, photographic l A is like, Yeah, there's just
1:06:46
moments where you're like driving on the fucking highway and
1:06:49
you look over and you're like, oh my god. When
1:06:51
you're on the four Californians here, but when you're on
1:06:54
the one thirty four, people know you're kind of in
1:06:56
Pasadena heading towards l A and you're up like on
1:06:59
the side of them out and looking out over the
1:07:01
city and the sun. If you catch that when the
1:07:02
sun is setting but not in your eyes, you're like, oh,
1:07:05
I'm in a postcard, right, Yeah, it's pretty while I'm
1:07:08
gonna postcard right now. So yeah, I just I loved that. Yeah,
1:07:12
but the weather that's the one. Oh wait, no, it's great. Marcella.
1:07:16
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Line February six to the nineteenth. Please come out, come
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see me, and have other dates coming up too. But
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that's the most important, and that's the shift. I want
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you to come to Ita gang Jack, Jack, where can
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people find you? Uh No, you're turning to tell people
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a tweet or some other work. I didn't look one up.
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I forgot Jack. Where can people find you? Oh that's
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such a great question. Thank you so much for having
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me and Marcella. You can find me on Twitter at
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Jack Underscore O'Brien a tweet. I've been enjoying sing like this.
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This is the fact that we made it through this
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episode like it. As we're recording this, the seventy six
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Ers just traded Ben Simmons for James Harden and that's
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It's a I I don't love like I'm not over overjoyed,
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but I've just been enjoying a lot of Sixers fans
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responses Blake Wexler, frequent guest on the show. So this
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feels better than when we killed Bin Laden. That made
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me laugh and just enjoying that happy that the Simmons
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era is that that I think he's gonna be in
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a better place. I think they will be in a
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better place. Everybody wins and you can find us on
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link off to the information that we talked about in
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today's episode, as well as a song that we think
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you might and O super producer Justin doing double duty
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has been just giving the fire song recommendation for the
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past couple of weeks, justin what is the song that
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you think people should go check out? Thanks Jack, I'm
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gonna recommend this song. Colors by Frisco Gets and d
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double E. You know, artists from across the Pond and
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in the UK. Very incredible lyrical content going on here.
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They take the colors ton very very far in here.
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But the beat is where this thing really gets me.
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It sounds like someone made this track while they were
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smoking angel dust out of the flute in an abandoned home.
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It's yeah, it's very dark, but it's very enjoyable, very
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bouncy based underneath this. If you have a system in
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your car, you're gonna enjoy how this sounds. So this
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is Colors spelled c O l O U r s
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because they're finish. Yeah, they had to do it to
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us with Frisco Gets in d w E and you
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can find that track in the footnos. There you go,
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