There’s more news and less comprehension today than any historical period that didn’t involve literal witch trials, and trying to stay on top of it all can feel like playing a game of telephone with 30 people, except everyone’s speaking at the same time and like a third of them are openly racist for some reason. From Cracked co-founder Jack O’Brien, THE DAILY ZEITGEIST is stepping into that fray with some of the funniest and smartest comedic and journalistic minds around. Jack and co-host Miles Gray spend up to an hour every weekday sorting through the events and stories driving the headlines, to help you find the signal in the noise, with a few laughs thrown in for free.
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- How Power Operates Part 2
- Big Strike Energy
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Speaker 1
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two oh six,
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episode four of Jar Daly's Like Guys to production of
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My Heart Radio. It completely throws me off if we
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take a single day off, Like I can't say the
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episode number confidently because I'm like episode four, but it's
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fright anyway. It's a little window behind the curtain there.
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This is a podcast where you take a deep dive
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window behind the curtains, into the behind the scenes of
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the curtain. There's a podcast where you take a deep
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dive into America's share consciousness. Miles. It is Friday, October five,
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which of course means that it is National Schwarmer Day,
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National I Love Lucy Day Day. Yeah, now that is
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what the funk I'm talking about. A little old old
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man energy, a little old living a garbage can. I
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think it's it's something to do with like think from
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the Sesame Street people like got this day on board
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or something been celebrated since seventy six National Grouch Day.
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That was one of the things I tried to get
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my son to be for Halloween instead of a trash truck,
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was Oscar the grouse because he lives in a trash can.
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Like no Oscar the Grouch sucks dead, which is not true,
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but I'm I'm working on him anyway. My name is
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Jack O'Brien a k here we pod again, not alone
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getting loud about some stoves that run on coal like
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a hipster. I was born to dress in wool. But
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I've made up my mind. I gotta record some more's.
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I so here I pod again. That is courtesy at
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Johnny Davis, and I am thrilled to be joined as
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always by my co host, Mr Miles grad Dead. I
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am weed, I am we, I am weed. I am weed. Yes,
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Megan Fox a smell like weed because I am weed.
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That just occurred to me this morning. And that's to
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shout out to me and shout out to Molly Lambert Lamber.
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We're like, yo, Molly wrote that ship like right when
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we got off as she was like, ah, yeah, you
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guys talked about Molly's article. He's like, huh, but amazing
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work by Molly Lambert. Hopefully we can have her on
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to talk about what really went on in that article.
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But what the fuck, I'm still not over it. And
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if he smokes mids, you know what kind of weed
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is mt K smoking? You know? What if he just
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smokes the worst trash like a cd D. She was
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smoking a CBD joint at one point, he was, she
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was during the thing, Yeah, making fox. I guess it
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was for the bild tattoo. So yeah, I guess I
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I shouldn't act like that's a big deal. She isn't weed.
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He is weed, so right, right, But that's what I
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mean because if he was all CBD two if yeah,
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because then I'm like, wait, what that means? You don't
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like any kind of psychoactive anything. You're just like, I
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just like the act of smoking this sort of neutral plant.
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I actually like the synthetic stuff you can get from
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the well Miles. We are thrilled to be joined in
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our third seat once again Way too Long, by a
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comedian and writer who has written for Adult Swims, Robot
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Chicken and hosts the hilarious Los Angeles based comedy show
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Fun a Lingus with past guests Dana don leam Plain.
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Please welcome the hilarious and talented Ellery Smith. Thank you
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so much for having me. Oh my god, thank you
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for being bad too. Since you were just looking back
03:48
the last episode you're I was twenty nineteen. I mean
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it was so long ago. We were talking about havana syndrome.
03:54
That's remember that story. It's been one week. What what's
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new with you? You're still in l A. You're still
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still in la I didn't leave at all, nowhere to go,
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so I wrapped it out the whole time here. Just
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spend a lot of time at home with my cat. Yeah.
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Any new? What's new? New hobbies? New, new desires? New
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I wanted to learn. I picked up a lot of
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half hobbies over the pandemic. But two I didn't get
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to is I wanted to learn the banjo didn't happen.
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But there's still time. And then I think I'm going
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to get a worm farm. Yeah, worm farm? Yeah. No,
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I have a garage, like a dark garage I can close,
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but I wouldn't have to keep it in my house.
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But yeah, I want like a red wiggler warm farm.
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What's that? It's just a farm. It's like a box
04:43
of worms that hang out and they eat your leftovers
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and they make like really nutrient rich soil for your
04:49
house plants, right right? And then was it like an
04:51
ant farm where like you can kind of watch them,
04:53
like you can watch from the top, but they need
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like they live like in the dirt. They have you
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heard of these things? Miles? Worms? I don't even really
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know if are worms. Bugs are worms? Bugs? Right? I
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think they're actually vegetables because they don't have seeds. If
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my understanding is correct, I mean invertebrates at best. Take crustaceans. Yeah,
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they got no exo skeleton. Yeah no, And that's what
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people come to hear the show for science show. I
05:34
was in a writer's room once and I told everybody
05:37
the ducks were mammals. And I didn't hear the end
05:39
of it for like two weeks. What did you have
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like a nickname because of it? No? They would just
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keep bringing it up and I'd be like, listen, guys,
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I was addicted to whip us in high school. I'm
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not gonna I'm not bringing like brain power to the table.
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I'm just a fun personality. Start talking, bangs, then then
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we can start talking. Yeah, exactly. Duck's kind of arm
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and almost like from an impressionistic standpoint, they've got like,
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there's some mammals, there's some mammal ass birds for sure,
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they've got mammal vibes. Wait, why do you think it
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has a what what's mammal vibe about it? To me?
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It's so clearly a bird, But what I don't know
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what it is about it, Like they just like they
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I feel like they have for they just I'm not
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like they just seem like chill around the swamp. How
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do you feel about a swan? Yeah, that's that might. Okay,
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so we're thinking anything like a bird that is like
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more sort of unique, Like the bill is a little
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bit different. It's not like a flying tweetie type bird
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than you feel like warm blooded thing when I think
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of like snakes or alligators and like, okay, cold blooded
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that's whatever the opposite. That's a bird, a bird, you
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know what I mean. That's a bird than birds. Yeah,
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I don't know something about like duck boots and like yeah,
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something about that all just makes yeah, like they're they're
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too associated with l L BE and to be not
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mammals in my brain. But what is a duck boot
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that that's giving you all this? Like, Okay, China's up
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the station and I think I'm catching the next one.
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Now this is gonna be the episode Miles. We're just
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right right, duck face, those are mammals as far as
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I can tell they're because they're humans posing their face jackets.
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It's ducks are mammals anyway, is ellery. We're going to
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get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
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we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the things
07:42
we're talking about. There was a Trump rally where they
07:46
pledged allegiance to a flag from January six, so we'll
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talk about how that went. We're gonna talk about how
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power operates in two disparate stories. Adam Schefter, the NFL
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wos like the a lesser vote from a shittier league insider,
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NFL insider. Yeah. And then Alex Murdog I think is
08:07
how we're pronouncing it was charged with hiding settlement money
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from the kids of the woman he may have murdered. Uh.
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He's the small town, big time attorney who has just
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generations of corruption and it's just it's just wild. Lift
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up the rock and see what's going on under there. Worms. Yeah. Yeah,
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we're gonna talk big strike energy. We're gonna talk how
08:32
the January six subpoena dodgers are entering what is termed
08:36
in legal circles, the find out phase of the uh
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funk around and find out legal process. And I'm calling
08:45
it today. We're talking about a medical condition where you
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have zero visual imagination. This is getting up there as
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the story I've introduced the most times, and uh, super
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producer Justin has had to cut it out of the
08:56
intro the most times. We're not maybe you've all heard
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me introduce fifteen times, but we're gonna fucking talk about
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it today. You hear oh that plenty more. But first
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ellery we do like task our guests what is something
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from your search history? My most recent search is Hollywood
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Improv Food Menu. Okay, what's up with that? What's what? Well?
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I think it's oh no, that's not good. But it
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tells you that, like, I'm somebody that plans ahead, that
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I support live comedy and that I'm willing to spend
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like eighteen dollars on a hamburger when I live five
09:29
minutes away. Wow, what's the best thing to eat there?
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I wouldn't recommend any of it, But have you just
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gone down the list to find the most tolerable offering? You?
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Basically I get they have an impossible burger that's serviceable.
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And then the last time I was there, the door
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guy let me finish his fries and so that was
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a nice free meal. Yeah. Nice if you're going to
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the trash can instead, definitely. Yeah. Or look, and I've
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said this for I'm I've thrown out fries and be like,
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you know what, Actually, I don't let me get back
10:03
in there. If it's your personal trash can and it's
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in a container, it didn't touch any other trash and
10:09
it's on top. Look, I'm all for it. I'm just
10:12
being efficient. Like all these food service industry workers want
10:16
to complain about unfair wages, but what they don't talk
10:19
about is the free fries. That was the one thing
10:22
that made my one very short lived waiting job bearable
10:27
was that they had really good fries that I worked
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at a doughnut shop this summer and we got a
10:32
new manager towards the end of my tenure there, and
10:35
he yelled at me for eating the tader talts. Motherfucker. Yeah, like,
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why do you think I work here? Assholes? Well, also,
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I was making the tator talks. It's like, you do
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have to test them to see for as long as
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you're not eating them straight out the basket or something,
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you know they're not doing a health code violation scam
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them unless that's the thing is like ellery, please stop
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reaching into the deep fryer and just pulling out wrong
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with you get used to it. Your fingertips burned off,
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and then you stopped right right right, like you're in
11:08
the Men in Black. I do wish any like somebody
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had told me at like as I was entering the
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workforce that like of the jobs exists so that somebody
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has the ability to like be mean to somebody else,
11:22
like a manager has the ability to like feel little
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someone so they feel a little bit better, and that
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they're like always wrong. Because we were manager lists for
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this is sort of like a saga. But we were
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without a manager for quite a few months and everything
11:37
was totally fine, and it really sort of exposed the
11:40
fact that, like managers are mostly there for organizational stuff
11:43
and to like make sure you're wearing your uniform. But
11:45
we literally went like four minutes four months about a
11:48
manager and nothing happened. Yeah, right, And they're like, well, no,
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I still need to add someone that I pay a
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lot more than that the rest of y'all to make
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sure this works despite the evidence that it's working without it. Well,
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we all it as soon as you high. Yeah, there
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you go, flex and that is the system working. You
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hire your manager that everybody quit, and you're like, this
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is a good manager. He really holds it down. You
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know what was a good donuts were you? Were you
12:15
happy with the quality of donuts? Donuts rocked. I would
12:18
eat a lot of donuts for sure. Yeah. I just
12:21
saw that video on TikTok or that, like that Duncan
12:24
worker who was showing how much donuts they throw it
12:26
at the end of the day. Oh yeah, yeah, we've
12:28
heard a lot of unfrosted donuts. But we were able
12:31
to donate a few too, right right, right, And but
12:34
like but when you see things like they're like, yeah,
12:35
there's just so there's so much waste. There really is,
12:39
and there are so many But I also used to
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work at Traitor Joe's and just to see this stuff
12:42
that we would throw out and like not be able
12:45
to donate because it was like sort of a liability
12:47
for the company was really like one of the things
12:50
that radicalized me for sure, right right, And you're like,
12:53
because of some weird liability thing like this isn't expired,
12:57
protect ourselves, just have to protect way we could ever. Yeah,
13:01
and then we would lock the dumps that we put
13:03
padlocks on the dumpstairs back in. Yeah, it was crazy,
13:07
throw it out and protect. Yeah, because they're so worried
13:11
that somebody could suit, get sick and sue. You'd hope
13:13
that at the very least there wouldn't be a law that, like,
13:16
if you are at a point where you're eating out
13:19
of the trash can, that couldn't be frivolous about suing somebody.
13:22
But I don't know like that because that's all the worries. Like, dude,
13:26
but it's slight. Ability think it's a cool system overall,
13:32
very good people. Wait, so you work, yo? Do they
13:35
make y'all say at Trader Joe's like to compliment the
13:38
ship that people buy. I see those tweets now, and
13:41
it's really funny to think about. But no, I think
13:43
they just hired they First of all, I think that
13:44
they hire really like somebody in a regular world would
13:48
be really annoying. But do you know what I mean?
13:51
Like I worked with a lot of really annoying sort
13:53
of like high personality people, But I genuinely think they
13:57
just they look for people who are like good at
13:58
small talk, friendly, you know, so it's sort of like
14:02
they you know. Also, when I was working there, I
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had I had like I worked there actually with my mom,
14:07
like through high school, and then I worked there through college,
14:09
and it was like a little performance, you know what
14:10
I mean, Like you get it was sort of like
14:12
doing stand up I like the customers expect that too interesting. Oh,
14:17
so it's more of an energetic sort of thing. Yeah,
14:20
it's definitely an energy and also you're not a lot
14:22
like I feel like that was one of the few jobs.
14:24
If I was having like a somber day, customers really
14:27
noticed because what's wrong? Oh there was this drilling outside
14:32
my house, and I thought that was here reaction of that.
14:34
It sounded like a plane going over. I was pretending
14:37
to be a Trader Joe's. Yeah, but I feel like
14:41
at that job specifically because like the tenor is so upbeat.
14:44
Always if you have like a medium day, customers are
14:48
really like smile more. Imagine like the thing that everybody
14:52
loves to hear is, can you give us any of
14:56
your Trader Joe's material from your like stand up days
14:59
work in the Trader Joe's Mm hmmm. I can't even
15:04
really remember it now. It's so far away, but there
15:07
was a bunch of basically just yeah, dealing with customers
15:10
was Also, there's sort of like a a rumor methos
15:15
around Trader Joe's that it's like healthy food because there's
15:18
bamboo paneling like in all the stores, but it's not. Yeah. Also,
15:24
they're they're reduced guilt at least this was true when
15:26
I was there. They're like reduced guilt meals. It's the
15:30
same food, just less. Oh yeah, you get a smaller serving,
15:35
but nothing is different about the recipe. That is a
15:38
window behind the scenes, behind the curtain of Trader Joe's
15:41
that you can only get from the Daily zike r
15:45
R as we call it traitor or that's that's a
15:50
good name for a podcast. We gotta do it because
15:52
Trader Joe's that was I remember they were like one
15:54
of the only brands that had a podcast for a
15:57
long time. Yeah, they were like the Trader Joe's podcast
16:00
where you just like go and listen to people talk
16:02
about how fucking lit Trader joe'se is TJ's. Yeah. Yeah,
16:06
what is something you think is overrated? Er? So I
16:11
have to I said, sweater weather kind of overrated? It's
16:16
good for a week and then I'm like, I'm not
16:19
into it. And then really original Halloween costumes I think
16:23
are overrated because they're fun, but really really originally yes,
16:29
exactly here is exactly what I think about it, because
16:31
good ones are really good, but some of them are
16:34
too niche, which means you're explaining yourself all night. And
16:37
then we're we need to like normalize lazy Halloween costumes.
16:42
We're all busy. I don't want to buy a bunch
16:44
of stuff. You're never going to wear any of that
16:46
ship again, No, no, absolutely not. I mean I like,
16:51
the last time I really did it up for Halloween,
16:55
I like my friend who has like a costume house.
16:58
I was like, can I borrow like a holster? And
17:01
like that was it. And then I was like, this
17:04
is too much, This is too much effort. I remember
17:05
when I could just put on a basketball uniform and
17:08
just say I'm I'm basketball guy. Give me some candy. Yeah,
17:15
the Hawoween costume industry so long way of getting to
17:20
agreeing with you. But I had recently heard from somebody
17:23
like that their friend is like this billionaire who just
17:25
looks at various industries and it's like, oh, that is
17:29
a thing that is like forty years old that nobody's refreshed.
17:32
So they're the person behind the brand method because they
17:36
looked at like those like soap and like the ship
17:39
that you buy in the like house where section of
17:42
grocery store and was like this all looks like ship
17:45
and looks like it was designed in the seventies. And
17:47
so ever since they told me that, I've been trying
17:49
to think of, like what is the other thing that
17:52
is that? And like Halloween costumes fucking suck man, They're
17:56
like so bad, like Halloween costumes stores, Like what why
18:00
is that that we that there seem to be more
18:04
creative because I feel like we're kind of a lot
18:06
of people like we get pigeonholed into like monsters, heroes,
18:10
sexy stuff and like memes, and you should just be
18:14
able to be like super esoteric with it, like maybe
18:17
like to the point where you know you're saying ellery
18:18
like if it's niche fuck explaining it to somebody's like
18:21
it's halloween, you know what. I'm just sort of whatever
18:24
the funk I want to If I und to where
18:25
three sets of pajamas all at once, I'm gonna do that.
18:29
Your pajamas, Sam. I do think it's one of the
18:32
few industries where you really bump up against I p
18:35
so like you're like, we've all seen those tweets that
18:39
are like, instead of Wednesday atoms, it's like Monday Jones
18:42
or something. Yeah, Blake from WREX was talking about on
18:49
their show this is important that he found a costume
18:54
that was his, like a wig and a like tie
18:58
that like his uniform like from Workcoholics, and it was
19:02
like lazy stoner guy from work blurk, lazy stoner guy
19:07
from working so funny it would be awful of they
19:12
just like roasted you just being like ugly, frizzy haired,
19:16
Like yeah, look it's blurk from job Addict. I mean
19:23
that's what they do. Absolutely. I think maybe that's just
19:27
fun to your is getting wild like dancing the fine
19:31
line of No, this is blurk from job Attics. Who's
19:37
Blake from Workaholics. Maybe we need to see them. Wait
19:41
the sweater weather thing though, explit because aren't you from
19:43
the Northeast. Aren't you from New York? I am good
19:46
memory and even there, like I sort of missed seasons,
19:52
but there's nothing as uncomfortable to me is being cold.
19:56
And then also I'll argue that like sweater weather, fall weather,
20:01
you need like a sweater in the morning. By afternoon
20:03
it's seventy five degrees and all of those layers don't
20:07
make sense. And then as soon as the sun goes down,
20:09
it's like forty. And so it's like you're experiencing like
20:13
three different outfit needs in one day. Trying to address
20:19
a kid for school like on like my son went
20:21
to school today and like a heavy sweater and shorts
20:25
because it's just like I don't know, and that's what
20:27
it will be calling by the afternoon and you'll never
20:29
see it again. It'll just get pulled off at school
20:31
stay there. Plus, like in high school, like junior high stuff,
20:35
I never brought a jacket to school use it was
20:37
raining at most. Jacket that's such a teenage thing like
20:44
in my life. Yeah, just being stupid because you're like whatever,
20:46
like the morning will be called and then you'll get
20:48
in the class and then by nutrition it's more bearable.
20:52
And plus like I would always forget my jackets and
20:54
class and then yet Harry something, Yeah, what do you
20:59
a white kid from Massachusetts? When yeah, they they will
21:14
walk outside in shorts and a T shirt and you're like, no,
21:16
I do this is nothing in mass It's like we're
21:19
in New York. We're like probably the same latitude. What
21:23
is something you think is underrated? Mm hmm underrated. I
21:26
have mid morning movies, like a like a ten am
21:31
to an eleven am movie, like going to the movie,
21:35
like going to the movie seeing like the first movie
21:37
that you can that day, Like when I had movie
21:39
pass Alright, I have the AMC pass now, but I
21:43
would get so stoned and just see like the earliest
21:47
movie I could, and I had the rest of the
21:48
day to myself. It was like a perfect sort of morning.
21:50
I'd like, bring a coffee in. Wow, like you're reading
21:54
the paper. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I haven't. I don't think
21:59
I've ever been to the first showing of like a film.
22:02
I feel like I've been to a man like I
22:03
think the earliest I've ever been in from like noon
22:06
noon is operable, But it's so in the middle of
22:08
the day that it like sort of takes a chunk out.
22:10
I feel like doing it first thing. You have the
22:14
rest of the day. It's all sort of like a
22:15
slow wake up. So by the time you're back out
22:19
the world is like on, that's with this job jack
22:23
alone starting. I mean, it's definitely a luxury of the
22:26
unemployed for sure. I can just change when we record.
22:29
I want to start doing it too. That's something I
22:31
want to do it too. It's meditative. I highly recommend it.
22:36
Long Junehoe, like, you're the second person I've heard talking
22:39
about like morning movies in the last week. He was
22:42
talking about how he wakes up at five every morning
22:45
and watches the movie which is of Parasite, wakes up
22:51
like and watches one to two movies before his day
22:54
starts interesting, which I'm like, man, that's like you always
22:59
hear about people like waking up and like writing or
23:01
like doing you know, something productive. I like the idea
23:04
of just being like, no, this is my favorite thing
23:06
in the world to do. So it's also it's also productive,
23:09
you know what I mean. And for someone who's a filmmaker,
23:12
it's probably incredibly stimulating and inspiring. Like just like if
23:15
you're a musician, like you need to like you need
23:17
to listen to other ship to be like, oh ship,
23:19
now I'm getting fucking ideed so exactly. But I wonder
23:22
how he chooses like does he just does he have
23:25
like a list that he goes. I haven't seen senseless
23:28
with Marlon Wayns and David Spade yet, love that we
23:34
listen to like cinephiles talking that you realize that there's
23:37
like you could keep watching great movies like from now
23:40
until the time you died, and like many I kind
23:43
of like imagine imagining watching him watch like what's the
23:46
worst that could happen, like the Danny Davida, Martin Lawrence
23:49
Cross every Yeah, he's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna steal that.
23:53
Yeah exactly. I like really bad movies, Like I love
23:56
a bad movie. Yeah right, he's like parasite with Actually
24:00
I got inspired after I watched the film of Joe's Apartment.
24:07
All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
24:10
back and uh talk about a story that we could
24:13
have talked about the last time you were on ellery
24:16
a Trump rally, have you guys, I read about this one?
24:22
All right, Well, we'll be right back and we're back
24:36
and Trump rallied with young Ken Yeah, Glenn duncan n Yeah,
24:42
who is somebody he's printing for a governor in Virginia?
24:48
Like I was gonna say but Miles, why don't you
24:51
take it from here? Here we go. So the headline
24:55
is all I know about this story. Okay, So Virginia
24:59
they have a google natorial election coming and it's kind
25:01
of probably our our first sort of solid indicator of
25:05
how political candidates are going to fare in the Biden era,
25:07
especially given like the flippy floppy like platform not being
25:12
you know, voted into reality at all. And you know,
25:15
while the California recall could have been consequential on a
25:19
political level, and obviously for anyone who lives and lives
25:22
in the state, California is just reliably blue on like Virginia.
25:26
So they're like, no, this is this is going to
25:27
give us a real kind of an eye into maybe
25:30
what midterms look like or what Democrats are up against
25:33
Republicans are up against. And Glenn Uncan is the Republican
25:37
running against Terry mccauliffe, and he is like, you know,
25:40
he's a businessman, he's mostly self funded, but he's also
25:42
got you know, he's got some some people helping out,
25:45
and he's running this like kind of campaign where he's
25:48
having to half embrace Trump but can't go full Maga
25:52
because suburban and independent voters, and so he's doing this
25:56
like very like I'll talk about having voter integrity on
26:01
my website, but not go full big lie ish all
26:04
the time. Like he's just trying to have it every
26:06
way possible. And there was a rally for him that
26:09
was hosted by Steve Bannon on Wednesday, and Trump phoned
26:14
in to like just fucking rant and rave. But the
26:17
fucking thing kicked off with a pledge of allegiance that
26:21
you know, they said, well, oh, this flag is special
26:24
that we're going to pledge allegiance to. That was quote
26:26
they said. Quote was carried at the peaceful rally with
26:29
Donald J. Trump on January six. They all said their
26:35
salute to their fucking whatever. And you can was smart
26:39
enough to not show up at this thing. Apparently he's
26:42
like he's like you was in the show, because I
26:44
think a lot of people are like, yo, you're out
26:46
of fucking They just prayed to the January six flag,
26:49
Like is this what you want to tell your suburban voters?
26:53
So then, you know, I think that made a lot
26:55
of news, and like, you know, obviously mccauliffe is like,
26:57
you're are you going to condemn this? But I doubt
27:01
that's going to happen because he can't piss off the
27:03
mega world. So yeah, it's just been a lot of
27:06
interesting things happening. And then earlier in the day Wednesday,
27:08
Trump put out this fucking weird statement. He keeps saying
27:12
this ship about like how Republicans won't vote or shouldn't vote,
27:15
like in the mid terms, or like they're not Oh
27:17
you better watch other they're not going to vote. He
27:19
said this is in a statement he made because he
27:21
doesn't have to letter. Quote, if we don't solve the
27:23
presidential election for out of which we have thoroughly and
27:26
conclusively documented and as an aside, which has been thoroughly
27:29
inconclusively debunked, quote, Republicans will not be voting in twenty
27:35
two or twenty four. It is the single most important
27:38
thing for Republicans to do. Okay, then don't vote, I
27:42
mean really mixed messaging on that. Yeah, it's that's what
27:46
I'm like. I don't know what the problem this exactly
27:48
solved for him, unless the plan is to completely get
27:53
the GOP in the base off of the idea that
27:55
voting is a concept that is an objective good. I
27:59
mean I think that that is sort of a false
28:01
premise because it anticipates that he's playing for Chas and
28:04
has some plan, and it is entirely possible that he
28:07
just doesn't know how to make a He's like not
28:10
thinking about what that message actually means. Right, But so
28:13
that's I'm like, I don't know, because I mean increasingly right.
28:16
But with all the voter restriction, if you can get
28:19
at least half of the country say like, well, votes
28:20
don't really matter, then when half, when the other half
28:23
is saying the election was stolen, it's less of a
28:26
powerful statement to them, maybe just for their own perception.
28:30
It's like it's an easier sell. Yeah, because then half
28:33
you like, dude, vote just fucking rigged anyway, and just
28:35
get over it. Trump's the winner, man, shut up. I mean,
28:38
may be true, but if if they sit out as
28:41
a demographic, it would really hurt the party. Yeah, which
28:45
is that's I'm like, or again, like to your point,
28:47
if he's not playing for dy Chaise, he's just dumb
28:50
and he thinks of voting like it's a Nike store
28:54
and you could just boycott the ship until you get
28:57
what you want. I mean, that didn't do you remember
29:00
when Nike was a company and then they supported Colin Kaepernick.
29:04
And now I mean those people cut up their socks
29:07
and yeah, and now I got Dr Dre and Eminem
29:10
and Mary J. Blige is doing the fucking halftime show
29:13
for God Knows Wife. But just how quick people change
29:16
on that ship? Right? I thought people had caps back,
29:18
but guess not. This reminds me of this story about
29:22
like that there was a anti vax mob that stormed
29:26
a hospital like because of these like fascist leaders. It
29:30
was in Rome, though, and like over there they these
29:34
people are in a separate party, and like that party
29:38
doesn't have power, and I just feel like there we're
29:42
at a point where, you know, like he would in
29:46
any other system that wasn't like forcing everything into this
29:50
like two party situation, Like he would be his own party,
29:54
and like there's just that the ship can't hold. Like
29:59
there there's just two many like different directions that the
30:03
party wants to go. I think they're ultimately going to
30:06
follow him, which is the scary part. But like that
30:09
that's why the two party system is so scary, is
30:11
because like he has the energy behind him, and so
30:16
like they're just all gonna fucking vow They're gonna pledged
30:20
to the this January six flag and they're gonna nod
30:24
to the old fashioned salute that kids used to do
30:27
to the flag during the pledge in uh classrooms. Have
30:30
you ever seen that picture of like the kids they're
30:34
they're all doing the Nazi salute to the American flag
30:37
like before nazis worth a thing. That's how people used
30:40
to say the pledge, don't give them fucking ideas, like well,
30:44
actually we were doing that before the Nazis, right, yea yeah. Um.
30:49
Two things. Firstly, fledging allegiance is one of those things
30:52
like specifically like a campaign rally or something that if
30:54
anybody on the right saw it in North Korea, they'd
30:57
be like indoctrination. That's crazy. And then secondly, did you
31:00
see the video of the dude from smash Mouth doing
31:03
the Nazi salute on like out of concert? It was
31:07
it was like this week it was where you should
31:09
look it up? Is that why he's leaving the band?
31:11
Is he leaving the band? Yeah? Yeah, he's leaving and
31:14
he looks forward to being a smash Mouth fan, a
31:16
fan of the band just from the sudlines going. So
31:19
that thought must be why because that video just went
31:22
viral like last weekend. Oh that makes sense because yeah,
31:25
after chaot he retires after chaotic on stage range. As
31:29
the New York Post describes it, you committally how the
31:32
Post would put it. What was he saying as he
31:35
was doing the Nazi salute? I don't know. I was
31:37
listening to it on mute. I wasn't interested in hearing
31:39
anything music. That's a very good point, as good mental
31:44
health care. There's so many good videos of that guy.
31:48
The video, taken by a patron of the festival, shows
31:50
Hardwall slurring his speech and forgetting lyrics during the band's performance,
31:53
dropping a beer can into the crowd, raising two middle
31:55
fingers into the air, and at one point displaying what
31:58
appears to be a Nazi salute. Quol I'll fucking kill
32:01
your whole family. I swear to God, are Well appears
32:04
to yell at one member of the audience later in
32:06
the set, I mean we've seen we've seen this behavior
32:10
from him before when they were throwing bread at smash Mouth.
32:13
And it's an amazing video if you can find it.
32:17
Because he leaves the stage while the band is the
32:20
band has already started riffing the beginning of All Star,
32:24
but he like leaves the stage to go fight this
32:26
person for throwing bread and they're just they're like, as
32:30
you hear he's still on Mike be like fuck you man,
32:33
I'm gonna kick your ass, like I'm gonna kill you
32:36
for like three minutes while the band is just like,
32:38
don't let's take it one more time, and then it
32:46
ends with him getting back on stage. Somebody. It's so funny,
32:52
you know, it's so wild. Salute to Christie a'magucci. Main
32:55
because in this article our meeting, they have a tweet
32:57
of his in the fucking article. Wow, because he tweeted
33:01
something but he said, I cannot wait to see smash
33:03
Mouth now and I think it's of the video of
33:05
the ship going down. So look, Yeah, because a great
33:08
Christie a'magucci man covering the big stories, that's yeah, that's wild. Alright,
33:13
let's let's do a quick overview of how power operates.
33:17
We like to like to check in with just how
33:19
these things work in the United States, and so I
33:21
have these two different stories, but I think are both
33:24
revealing about different ways that operates. So first we got
33:27
Adam Schefter, who has become like the ESPN is like
33:31
star NFL reporters, basically the woes of less interesting, more
33:37
fucked up sport. But like he, he knows the inside
33:40
information about what's going to happen before it happens, and apparently,
33:45
how do you get that? How do you get that?
33:46
So to do that, he had to earn the trust
33:48
of the people who have the power, which in the
33:50
case of the NFL are the owners and front officers.
33:53
And so one of the revelations from the Washington Football
33:57
Team email dump that ended up with on Gruden being
34:01
revealed to be just like the dumbest, most racist, homophobic
34:05
bully and resigning is that Schefter was clearing stories with
34:09
the Washington Football Team front office before publishing them, asking
34:14
them to let him know what he needed to like edit, tweak,
34:17
or change. I think that's a direct quote, and cheekily
34:20
in like a asked, cheek kissing way, referring to the
34:25
people who control the Washing Football Team as Mr Editor,
34:29
He's like, just let me know what you need, Mr Editor,
34:33
before publishing story destroy reality to your benefits, sir. Yes.
34:37
And this was a story from two thousand eleven about
34:40
a labor dispute between the players and the owner. So
34:45
it's yeah, he's just doing you know. This is how
34:50
a lot of media works though, and I think is
34:52
like kind of an underrepresented way that our you know,
34:55
system breaks down. Is that like to get access to
35:00
the important stories, you have to like earn the trust
35:02
of the powerful people who are you know, influencing those stories,
35:06
and then you end up fucking telling the story that
35:10
they want you to tell, right, So, man, Dan Snyder,
35:14
because that's like this was so that this story about
35:17
the labor dispute that's obviously before it was like, oh
35:20
look how this team was being run. Yeah. Yeah, there
35:23
was a story about Dan Snyder that came out like
35:25
last summer, two summers ago, and it was sort of
35:27
like an indictment of both him and like the inner
35:32
workings of the team, specifically as it relates to I
35:35
believe cheerleaders and like women in the ranks. Yeah, I
35:39
think they were. I think there's I don't know if
35:44
this is like fully fleshed out in the reporting, but
35:48
I think their reports that they were taking videos of
35:51
them like on the team cruise ship, like undressing without
35:56
their knowledge and then so Schefter is and then Chefter
36:02
carries water from them like their ESPN's main NFL reporters, Hi,
36:06
would you ta to edit anything from that? Yeah? Do you? Oh?
36:10
Cut that out? Got it? K K, thank you? And
36:14
then this other story unrelated but I think also kind
36:18
of reveals a detail of how power operates. It is
36:22
just this Alex Murdog, the Murdog family. This is like
36:25
the old fashioned type of power corrupting that we've seen
36:28
in movies since movies were a thing, Like the big
36:31
Fish in a small pond. They were a legal powerhouse
36:34
family and like they were apparently just literally able to
36:38
get away with murder for a long time. But yeah,
36:42
so I was this the one where the like the
36:44
sun killed a kid and then the dad him died.
36:49
Yeah that was before I was like viewing the news
36:53
critically for living. There was like a part of me
36:55
that assumed that ship like this was like too blatantly
36:58
corrupt and bold actually like still go on, and that
37:02
it was just like, well come on, there's like it's
37:04
not like somebody would just be like the evil overlord
37:08
of a town and just like kill people and be
37:11
like I can buy my way out of anything. And
37:14
the truth is yeah, cut, yeah, feudalism still exists, Like
37:18
the tenants of it, and we're constantly trying to reinvent
37:21
it for people. But like, yeah, it's so clear although
37:26
it is true that you sort of want to think
37:29
that things like that are are too ridiculous to be true,
37:32
and then you sort of realize that, like, no, it
37:34
just is happening in the open people. I think about
37:37
this a lot with specifically like Save the Children movement
37:41
and like the qut On stuff. It's like, there's not
37:43
a secret pedophiles. They're they're operating pretty openly and they're
37:47
not scared of retribution because they're rich. So one thing
37:51
Elver you should know is that since you were last on,
37:53
we did become a qu on podcast. Unfortunately we do.
37:57
We do hashtag save the Children, have Children, hashtag where
37:59
we a one? We all, But just to catch up
38:02
anybody who like wasn't listening to the last time we
38:05
cover the Murdah thing. They were like a generation's long
38:07
dynasty of like legal power in South Carolina. Things started
38:11
to unravel for them when one of their boys, like
38:13
a high school student, got drunk and killed a young
38:16
like pretty white girl. So the news was paying attention
38:19
in a boating accident. They decided to cover it up,
38:22
like not in any like careful way. They were just
38:25
like the way it came out was the police had
38:28
like this dash cam footage from the night of it happening,
38:33
and there's like one of the witnesses in the car
38:35
being like, uh, they like he just clearly like killed
38:38
somebody and he's going to get away with it because
38:40
he's part of the Murdoch family and like, you guys
38:43
aren't gonna do ship. And then like years later the
38:45
police hadn't done ship, and then that footage came out.
38:48
But when it started to seem like some combination of
38:51
the scrutiny on that kid and his mom becoming like
38:55
unloyal to the overall like family patriarch side of the
39:00
family was going to like put a spotlight on the family,
39:04
suddenly that kid and the mom both showed up murdered
39:08
on their own farm. And then we found out there
39:11
have been two suspicious murders around that same farm, one
39:15
with a guy being found with his brains blown out
39:17
on the side of the road and having the ruling
39:19
change from shot in the head execution style obviously to
39:23
vehicular hit and run by the police. Uh. Somehow they
39:27
were like, oh yeah, you got clipped with the mirror man.
39:29
It was you know, hops all the time. And then
39:32
the other with their housekeeper dying mysteriously while working at
39:35
their house from a quote fault and they just immediately
39:39
put her underground without a autopsy because so the yeah
39:45
he was hit by a Ford Mustang bullet. Honestly, sort
39:49
of chap equittic vibes with the kid like right now,
39:52
Oh yeah, chap aquittic if like the Kennedy's were only
39:57
locally famous and could have gotten away with whatever the
40:00
funk they wanted. Honestly, what really pisses me off as
40:02
the housekeeper, because I'm like, if you want to kill
40:04
each other inside the family, whatever I don't, don't bring like,
40:08
don't bring late your labor into it. That's not fair. Yeah,
40:13
the people who are murdering undisturbed to cover up their
40:16
own crime, that was a bridge too far, you know
40:21
what I mean. So the latest charges come from the
40:24
patriarch of the family, so he basically conspired with the
40:27
housekeepers kids to be like, you know, I can buy
40:31
my way out of anything here. I will fix it
40:34
so that you get a legal settlement through insurance. Because
40:37
I'm so like, legally powerful, you're gonna get five hundred
40:40
thousand dollars. They were not in a position to say
40:43
no to five hundred thousand dollars. Isn't at four point
40:45
three million though in total? Okay, yeah, was in the millions.
40:51
Then none of us are in the positions they're not
40:53
a a four point through millions things. You know that
40:55
each of them only got a million, like after taxes
40:58
and fees and yeah, except the thing is he did
41:03
that was like I could buy my way out anything.
41:05
Here you go, I'm gonna pay you this didn't pay
41:08
it to them, stole that money that he was supposed
41:10
to give them because he just has absolute power. And
41:13
I was like, what the fund are they going to do?
41:15
And then you know, so that is the charge that
41:18
he's getting hit with right now, is stealing money that
41:21
was meant for like paying off the children of somebody
41:25
he had probably murdered. As the legal case like continues
41:29
to go on. But I feel like that's another feature
41:31
of power and the conspiracies that we keep seeing kind
41:35
of come out in the light of days. Like, first
41:37
of all, it's not that these are the exceptions to
41:41
the rule. It's that them getting uncovered because like somebody
41:45
like this guy got addicted to oxy and became really
41:48
like desperate and sloppy, and his kid was you know, killed,
41:51
somebody who the media happened to care about. But like,
41:54
this is just a thing that is going on. This
41:57
is status quo in America, and it coming to our
42:00
attention is the exception. And then also just like how
42:04
fucking bad they are, Like we saw this with Trump,
42:06
who has just been like steeping in a hot pot
42:10
of like privilege his entire life and like trying to
42:14
pull scams and it's just like, what what the fund
42:17
are you even trying to do? Like it's not clear
42:20
how you're trying to get away with us. Well yeah,
42:22
I mean, but I think it just says like there
42:24
are people who still have this mindset where they come
42:27
from a time where it was truly all gas, no breaks,
42:31
because your whiteness and wealth were able to any sense. Yeah,
42:37
so now it's just like, well, what the fund is this? Yeah,
42:41
like no, no, this is not how, this is not
42:43
how my dad did it. What the funk are we doing?
42:45
And I think you're seeing a lot of this carry
42:47
over generationally where now these people like surprised, like genuinely shocked.
42:51
And I think that's why it's so blatant too, because
42:53
they're looking they've only seen generational examples of yeah, you
42:56
can get away with this ship. Yeah. The key when
43:00
he tried to cover like throw the stink off himself
43:03
for murdering his wife and kid and housekeeper and random
43:07
guy found on the side of the road the way
43:09
he did it was hired his oxy dealer to shoot
43:12
him in the head, but gray's him and and then
43:15
be like, I don't know the killer is that out there?
43:17
And he tried to shoot me? And then like they
43:20
immediately realized like he had hired somebody to do that,
43:23
and it's still being covered as like he did it
43:26
as part of an insurance scheme. It's like, no, he
43:28
did it because he's like guilty of all these other things.
43:31
But yeah, also, somebody addicted to doxy is not who
43:34
I would pick to a very good like shoot up
43:37
my face. But miss right, Well, he was the dealer,
43:40
so he's a addict. But is he following the tent
43:43
crack comyn say, I feel like every dealer is also
43:46
partaking getting high on their own. Yeah, that's a good point.
43:49
And it's only the ones that really have their ship
43:51
together that don't. And you're impressed, like, oh, that's why
43:53
you've been able to sell cocaine this long. Okay, that
43:55
makes sense. Yeah, you're like, I love this apartment building.
43:59
I thought there was a waiting for this place downtown,
44:02
so coke to the Caruso's. Wow, that would be a
44:05
good gig. Can you imagine there probably is someone like that, right,
44:09
It's like they give the Carusos all these drugs and
44:12
they keep them. They're like, yeah, wherever you need. We're
44:16
talking about Cruso, right, yea Laker player, No, not the
44:21
not the fans overly powerful real estate developer who runs
44:25
l A. That guy's definitely has a cocaine dealer, right, Yeah,
44:30
there's in a sick, sick apartment. All right, let's take
44:33
a quick break and we'll come back and talk about
44:35
big strike energy. And we're back, and they're they're starting
44:51
to be some some strikes around around the country starting
44:55
to be a little uh little momentum behind the labor.
45:00
Over ten thousand John Deer workers went on strike on Wednesday,
45:04
which is the largest private sector strikes since twenty nineteen. Yeah,
45:08
when you see that. When I read that line, I
45:09
was like, oh man, since I was probably be like
45:12
night the nineties and like No twenty nineteen, because things
45:15
are if you look on a timeline, on an accelerated path,
45:18
because inequality is on an accelerated path. And yeah, I
45:21
think we've seen this through everything. You know, the pandemics
45:23
has just made inequalities painfully clear for most everyone in
45:28
this country. And as more workers withhold their labor for
45:31
better pay and benefits, companies are struggling to figure out
45:34
how to stay greedy and have slave wages. It's I mean,
45:39
how do you do it? I don't know. So we
45:42
have all these strikes. In this instance, John Deer, employees
45:44
are striking because can anyone guess? They want better wages
45:49
and a fucking pension plan? That does huh? Who would
45:53
have thought? And but the reasons have been same across
45:56
the country. You know, companies are reporting the same. The
45:59
same thing is happy companies have report record profits. Oh
46:03
my god, we're record profits. And thanks to you all
46:06
whose labor we extracted all this wealth from. Uh shout
46:09
out to you, because you know, you guys are rock stars.
46:13
I hope you guys are the rock stars who made
46:15
this trip to space possible. Whoa, y'all are rock stars?
46:19
Hand don't ask for less work or more pay you
46:21
fucking cretan soap in one. Just to give an idea
46:25
for John Deer. They fucking they They're set to profit
46:29
nearly six billion dollars due to increase demand for their
46:33
agricultural parts and equipment, and it's beating its past record
46:37
by sixty three per cent. The CEO and was paid
46:41
fifteen point six million dollars in compensation thanks to a
46:47
baby shareholder value the stockers performing. Here's a little deal man.
46:51
I mean, I was on that shareholders call that guy's
46:53
got that guy's got it miles and locking him in
46:58
for a mere fifteen mill I mean, oh my god.
47:01
Stuff that is that those employees are only asking for
47:03
like twenty cents more an hour by like they're not
47:07
even asking for all that much. And we're right because
47:11
they're you know, the the United Auto Workers Union who's
47:14
representing them there, They were the ones who said no,
47:16
this last thing that John Deere put in front of
47:18
them absolute trash. And even if you just think of this, right,
47:22
this fucking CEO made fifteen million dollars imagine if he said,
47:25
you know what, I only need five million dollars this year.
47:28
The other ten million for those ten thousand workers, he
47:31
could have cut them a thousand dollar check each more
47:34
even more crazy. I'm just saying narrowly, if you want
47:37
to be with the most greedy version, right, it's like, well,
47:40
we're not gonna touch what the corporate profits are. I'll
47:43
say for me as a CEO, you can take this
47:45
out of my piece. I don't need fifteen Come on now,
47:49
five is five? Is fine? The ten for y'all the
47:53
people who I acknowledge that off of your fucking blood,
47:57
sweat and tears and your backs and oddies being broken
48:01
and put being put to work all the time, that's
48:04
why I have this ship. But you know, I think
48:07
the at the end of the day, it isn't just
48:09
this industry or just a specific region of the country.
48:12
You got the Kellogg serial factory workers went on strike
48:15
to end a two tier benefit system they had. Friedo
48:18
Lane Nabisco went on strike earlier this summer and fucking
48:22
Ayazia on Monday. Ship could go down and you're gonna
48:28
have sixty thousand Hollywood film crew people who work in
48:32
production we're gonna go on strike, because again, people see
48:36
the same ship going around, and no matter what your
48:38
job is, you have probably say seen the same thing.
48:42
You get paid fuck all, and you watch your managers
48:45
or superiors or the leadership of a company living in
48:48
a completely different financial reality and then fucking condescend and
48:53
patronize you with like all these just like empty platitudes
48:56
about like gratitude for what you've done, and they're like,
48:59
oh yeah, d got a sicks, like we shattered our
49:02
revenue goals. I mean, I think two things. I think Firstly,
49:06
people managers, specifically higher ups are so far removed from
49:10
the realities of labor that they can no longer even
49:14
imagine what it's like to be living at fifteen dollars
49:17
or less an hour, not even touching what it means
49:20
to physically be the labor. And then suddenly, did you
49:24
see the tweet that I put out today where they
49:27
have been hearing reports because productions know that a strike
49:31
is coming, they are forcing onto their crew members extra
49:35
seventh day and sixth day like like they're trying to
49:38
get to try and faminate before the strike, so they're
49:41
breaking more labor laws to get ready for the strike,
49:44
which is like such a bad fit. It's like, let's
49:47
let's get this in while we can still do it,
49:50
Like you might as well just strike now. I mean,
49:54
from where I'm standing, I am like shocked that workers
49:59
haven't turned to like violence and like Molotov cocktails, because
50:02
it's like and and truly what I think it is.
50:05
And I think about this a lot, like a general
50:07
strike would never be possible in America because we don't
50:10
have the network of mutual aid to support laborers who
50:13
would not be able to go into work. And so
50:15
and another thing I heard about Ayotsy is that one
50:18
of my friends who's in AOSSI told me that they
50:20
had been talking about how some productions are reaching out
50:23
to college students to get them to scab, like college
50:25
film students here, and those kids don't know that if
50:30
they are scabs, that means they can't join the union
50:32
when they're ready, right, yeah, that's yeah. And look, so again,
50:37
it's always rearing its ugly head, even if it's saying like, oh,
50:40
I guess we have to deal with these people in
50:42
good faith, will also try and exploit even further until
50:46
the wheels quite literally fall off, which to show you
50:49
that it's it's almost never in good faith, like they
50:51
don't actually like, if there's a dollar to be made,
50:53
that will always be more important than humanity and safety. Yeah,
50:57
and I think this is what's interesting too, is you
51:00
know it's clear now workers are beginning to realize they
51:04
have the leverage here or else we wouldn't see all
51:06
these strikes. Absolutely, ten years ago, it was fucking forget about.
51:11
But America used to be like a union country. Yeah, oh, absolutely,
51:15
till till Reagan came along. Yeah, you know, but bustling
51:19
ships up. And also yeah, Starbucks too. I believe they
51:22
closed down two stores I think one in New York
51:24
and another one of Touch of Ing because because they
51:27
were that's not legal, is it. I think I think
51:31
they can just be like, I mean, sorry, guys, we
51:33
just can't afford it, Like the overhead here is too high,
51:38
and we were just talking about just like yeah it is,
51:44
but what's this. I'm gonna say it was for operational efficiency.
51:48
So many of those things are like let's say, for example,
51:52
the op word crisis. All that ship was illegal, but
51:54
it was legal with a fine, like if you can,
51:57
if you can pay to apologize for it, you can
51:59
do it. Yeah, And it also means that's a law
52:01
for poor people, Yes exactly. I mean that's a lot
52:04
for poor people. That's how you know, if it's a fine,
52:06
it's only for poor people. In so many instances, it's
52:10
their offenses that could be prisonable, jailable and whatever. We
52:15
can get into how nobody should go to prison, but
52:17
for really which rich people, they never see jail time.
52:19
They just see fines. Yeah, and that's that's nothing. So
52:23
that's baked in. I mean, that's like legal liability is
52:26
baked into the to their calculus. There's that book The
52:30
Corporation from two thousand three that is or I think
52:34
it's from earlier, but the documentary came out in two
52:37
thousand three. But it talks about how corporations like have
52:41
legal rights as individuals, like they're they have the right
52:44
to be treated as individuals. But when you look at
52:47
how they behave, if an individual behaved that way, they
52:50
would be you know, in prison and deemed a psychopath,
52:55
like an actual like categorical like psychopath. Because have been
53:00
on the record many times as being like, okay, so
53:03
we discovered this manufacturing defect in this car, it's probably
53:08
going to kill twelve thousand people. But but their suits
53:15
like the limit to the like tort law or whatever
53:19
whatever the funk it is like means that this is
53:22
how much we stand to lose, and this is how
53:24
much we would lose if we did a recall, and
53:27
so we're going to go with just letting the people die,
53:30
like because that's just how it's. Yeah, I mean, there
53:34
is like an assignable price. I think the the u
53:36
N once like got to a specific number, but there's
53:38
like assignable prices to human lives, which is so intangible
53:44
and so fucked up. But that's like capitalism, right, that's
53:48
where we have to be at. And I just want
53:50
to say, you know, like to that point of you
53:53
know how general strike would not work, Like obviously this
53:55
one works because they're in a union and the union
53:58
is giving them, you know, I think two seventy five
54:01
dollars a week for the for these John Deer employees
54:03
to be able to withstand on a very small scale,
54:07
the loss of income. But the other thing is, because
54:11
there's so much leverage, you'd hope that more and more
54:15
working people begin to understand that they are workers. Have
54:20
just just unfathomable leverage at the moment, because all you
54:24
see right now is from the business owning class through
54:27
their friends on in media, they are terming this a
54:30
labor shortage, right, And it's that perception which makes it
54:34
just seem like, oh man, like people aren't working, rather
54:36
than saying, you know, people are fed the funk up
54:40
and they're getting organized and they're actually beginning to advocate
54:43
for better outcomes for themselves in a way that they
54:46
never have because the entire agreement has been fucked up,
54:50
And so it's always through this very distorted langue. It's
54:53
it's not a labor shortage until there are wage hikes,
54:56
like until wages go up, it's not a true labor shortage.
54:59
And I also had the is a very interesting take
55:01
and I can't remember who it's from, but essentially they
55:04
said that there are places who are say that they're hiring,
55:09
but won't actually hire anybody because it cuts their overhead
55:12
costs to have fewer people and run on a skeleton crew,
55:15
but because of it might affect customer service and there
55:17
for public opinion, they have to be like, we can't
55:20
find anybody to work for us. Nobody wants to work anymore.
55:23
But in reality they're like, fine, we'll run on a
55:25
skeleton crew, pay them exactly as much as they were
55:27
and make even more right, right, Yeah, we're who who
55:32
was it who was talking about going into a bar
55:33
that was like overrun and like just one person behind
55:37
the I think Johnny yesterday, wasn't it. Johnny was, Yeah,
55:42
he walked into a bar the bartender was like just
55:46
you know, completely overwhelmed and turned doing just went Biden. Yeah.
55:51
I mean I think that sums it up perfectly. That
55:53
sums it up perfectly. And it's also like I don't
55:56
I feel like I want to have like a group
55:58
team meeting where I'm like, we need to rest the
56:00
importance of like labor solidarity, because if you strike alone,
56:05
it doesn't matter. But if you strike with your coworkers,
56:08
now you have something that's really important. Absolutely, yeah, and
56:12
that's why. Yeah. Or getting organized, I know, it's it's
56:16
it comes in many different fashions, but like whether that's
56:18
just getting the pulse of your coworkers and knowing where
56:21
they're at and like what their needs are and wants
56:23
are and be like, you know, if we get organized,
56:25
we can say, look, we want this ship or even
56:28
finding out how much everybody makes yeah, right exactly, which
56:31
you'll see, and then the most insidious things you'll still
56:34
see like it's illegal, but you'll see places to be
56:36
like don't talk about your work. I've had that, don't
56:38
have shot people were they literally told us that. They
56:41
were like, don't talk about what you make back here,
56:43
like that's not appropriate. There's some fun going exactly, and
56:47
I was like, that's illegal, Like you can't tell me,
56:49
you can't tell me. Wow. Oh. One question I had like,
56:53
so if there is a if there's a strike going
56:57
on in your local community, and like there are you know,
57:00
people who need support, like community support, like just like
57:05
are there food banks? Are They're like how people can
57:09
just like hop in And so I'm actually pretty looped
57:12
into this, at least in Los Angeles. I run a
57:14
soup kitchen on Tuesdays in Korea Town. Lots of comedians
57:17
come and volunteer because they've been unemployed for the last
57:20
fifteen months. But I would say, specifically in Los Angeles,
57:23
if you can donate, if you know anybody who is
57:25
in the union who is striking, you can ask them
57:28
specifically what they might need, and that would be good.
57:30
But if you don't, you can donate to food banks.
57:32
We have a huge network of community fridges which don't
57:35
just need food, they also need people to go and
57:38
clean up any boxes or remove any spoiled food. And
57:42
then I would recommend getting involved with a mutual aid
57:45
organization in your neighborhood. And that can look like a
57:47
diaper bank, it can look like a food bank, it
57:49
can look like any number of things. Water drops specifically
57:53
in l A very important. So yeah, I would just
57:55
say try to do hyperlocal. I'm something I've noticed with
57:59
the pandemic. It's not like like for a long time
58:02
I ate at my soup kitchen because like money was
58:04
short for me too. It's all different types of people
58:06
that face like food insecurity, or diaper insecurity, or like
58:10
a big one we see is like menstrual product insecurity.
58:14
So they're all these like sort of small necessities of
58:17
daily life that as your bank account dwindles, those get
58:21
harder took place, and so finding ways to fill in
58:24
those gaps I think is like the number one thing
58:26
that we can do to support like striking labor, Yeah awesome,
58:29
And sometimes you'll see sometimes there will be strike funds yes,
58:32
I think there will eventually. They'll definitely be an Niazi
58:35
strike fund for sure, And that's one way if you're
58:37
not maybe physically there, you can support with your money
58:41
to support a strike fund that would then help striking.
58:43
And I would argue that liquid cash is definitely the
58:45
most important like thing, because you can't anticipate in individual's needs.
58:50
Only they can. And some people are like, oh, I
58:52
don't want to give out, you know, cash money, And
58:53
I think that's the that's the number one way to
58:55
help a person is to give them has liquid cash.
58:59
But I need them to jump through this hoop where
59:01
they apply for your job and then how do yeah, exactly.
59:11
People don't realize too how insidious means testing is to like,
59:15
even I have friends who work in you know, blue municipalities,
59:19
state governments where they bang their head against the wall
59:22
with their other bureaucratic coworkers who they're like, yeah, we
59:26
do need to address this and help these people who, like,
59:28
you know, these people in this marginalized community do need better,
59:31
Like we should allow them that we should give computers
59:33
or something just to create better educational outcomes. And people
59:36
are like, but how do we know that people are
59:38
going to use them in the right way. I just
59:41
feel like that, like I don't don't take that. First things, firstly,
59:46
I would so much rather help somebody by accident than
59:49
not help anybody, or like give somebody something that they
59:51
don't actually need. And then secondly, or like the amount
59:55
of like fraud that would have to happen for me
59:57
to care about it would have to be and that's
59:59
not happen. It's going to be like one if that.
1:00:02
And then secondly the wealthy yes. And then also something
1:00:08
I've like noticed is like the amount of self policing
1:00:11
that we do, like people police like the community bridges
1:00:14
and being like, oh, like I saw this person take
1:00:16
that thing, shut up, shut up? Yeah, I'm sorry. Did
1:00:19
you did you? Did you have a need for this? Yeah?
1:00:23
All things for everybody. I don't like, we don't care
1:00:26
what people take, We don't care what they leave. We
1:00:27
just care that they respect the space. Right. That's that's
1:00:32
so funny, because it's not funny, But it's just like
1:00:35
I have a five year three year old and like
1:00:39
they are obsessed with what the other one is getting,
1:00:42
Like they don't care what they get as long as
1:00:44
the other one doesn't get shipped like they just like
1:00:47
want I don't know that that just feels like it's
1:00:49
like a very like deeply human thing where people like, wait,
1:00:53
what did they do? Childish but it has to be
1:00:56
like yes, unlearned or it's like something you actively have
1:01:00
to work against. Yeah, yeah, yeah that yeah, you don't.
1:01:03
If you have a scarcity mentality, then the world is
1:01:05
sucking awful and there's no need to help anyone because
1:01:08
everything's fucked. But the fact is there is a lot,
1:01:10
there's abundance out there. It's just it's been untapped in
1:01:13
a lot of ways, whether that's people not paying their
1:01:16
taxes or the fact that we've tremendous food waste or
1:01:18
other things like. There are many ways to actually, you know,
1:01:21
approach these things, but it's I think some you know,
1:01:25
it's the imagination part. And I think this is a
1:01:27
good thing about the big strikes going on. People are
1:01:29
beginning to get the imagination. M hmm. Yeah. Children are monsters.
1:01:34
They have to have it drop out of them just
1:01:37
by nature. There's so much wild ship in there. Yeah, yo,
1:01:43
what about that thing you do? Like if you have
1:01:44
like siblings or cousins and you're like you you you're
1:01:47
bring in like a plate of food and like which
1:01:49
one was heavier? Like, no, I'm gonna get that one.
1:01:53
You know which bag is everywhere of this take out?
1:01:57
Which one is big? All right? Well, once again, and
1:02:00
we're not going to have time to get to the
1:02:01
zero visual imagination thing. But that is I think that's
1:02:05
what it should be, is just a story that's out there,
1:02:08
that's off in the distance that we can always aspire
1:02:12
to get to. But there's just too much good ship
1:02:14
to uh talk about today with ellery ellery such a
1:02:17
pleasure having you. Where can people find you and follow you? Um?
1:02:21
You can find me at at Ellery Underscore Smith on Instagram. Yeah. Yeah,
1:02:26
Is there a tweet or some other work of social
1:02:29
media you've been enjoying? Yeah? I have a tweet today
1:02:31
and I picked it out not knowing what we would
1:02:33
talk about when now it seems really fitting. So it's
1:02:35
a tweet from bug at woly World w O l
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Y World and it says I love when customers are
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rude No way, OMG, my turn, that's amazing miles. Where
1:02:51
can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying?
1:02:53
You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles
1:02:57
of Gray and also the other podcast for twenty a
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Fiance with Sophie Alexandra We Talk ninety day you know
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that for twenty ship and Yes, some tweets that I'm liking.
1:03:07
First one is from Matt Underscore Johnson. He said, my
1:03:10
students are so young that if I yelled the roof
1:03:13
the roof, the roof is on fire, they would think
1:03:17
the roof was on fire. Like wow, that that makes sense.
1:03:23
We do need water. Another one from Amelia Liz all
1:03:27
Day at Amelia at least all Day on Twitter says,
1:03:30
all the video games my boyfriend plays are like would
1:03:33
you like to search bee Hive? And he'll say yes,
1:03:36
and it'll be like you have found a be like
1:03:40
a stupid rope playing games. Ship. But I just love
1:03:44
this take on You're like, wow that baby, there's a
1:03:50
babe's yeah the bee Hive, Yeah yeah, I searched when
1:03:54
it asked me to say, yeah, you can find me
1:03:56
on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. A couple of tweets
1:03:59
have been enjoying just whack at the Diwect tweeted machine
1:04:02
Gun Kelly and Megan Fox will keep releasing quotes until
1:04:05
their demands are met, and then Casey at c t
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Right pretty tweeted, I bet shack has called the vaccine
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