There’s more news and less comprehension today than any historical period that didn’t involve literal witch trials, and trying to stay on top of it all can feel like playing a game of telephone with 30 people, except everyone’s speaking at the same time and like a third of them are openly racist for some reason. From Cracked co-founder Jack O’Brien, THE DAILY ZEITGEIST is stepping into that fray with some of the funniest and smartest comedic and journalistic minds around. Jack and co-host Miles Gray spend up to an hour every weekday sorting through the events and stories driving the headlines, to help you find the signal in the noise, with a few laughs thrown in for free.
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-the-daily-zeitgeist-28516718/
episode 5: Cops Recruiting With AI? Aaliyah Conspiracy Theories? 8.6.21
In episode 964, Miles and guest co-host Joelle Monique are joined by comedian Ever Mainard to discuss Ron DeSantis yelling at Joe Biden, Fox and Friends fighting over the vaccine, police having a hard time recruiting, new book on Aaliyah unveils a new rumor, and more!
FOOTNOTES:
- Ron DeSantis yells at Joe Biden for not being his real dad
- Fox and Friends now fighting over the vaccine
- Police are having a hard time recruiting so they are turning to THE...
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Oh hello, my wonderful students also known as the Internet.
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It's your favorite substitute teacher, and I'm here to welcome
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you to Season one, nineties six, Episode five of The
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Daily zygeis the production of I Heart Great d Yell.
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This is the podcast where we take a deep dive
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into American shared consciousness. That means, what is every boy time?
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What was everyone thinking about? And half the time it's interesting.
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Half the time it's scary. You know, most of the
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time it's funny. But it is Friday. Heank you August
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six one. My name is Miles Gray. Hey k A
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Hideo NoHo a k A experimental Japanese black and these artists,
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your boy Kassama, you know my pumpkin pieces popping up everywhere.
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You know how I get that with polka dots. Anyway,
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I'm thrilled to be joined today by my co host,
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who's a wonderful just media commentator. Uh just nerd, I
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mean like mega nerd, like God. If I have questions,
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I go to Joel and then she'll let me know.
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If I'm acting ignorant about about the m c U,
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she will step right eating and correct the record. She's
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just a fantastic person, podcaster, producer. I mean, I don't
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like I could keep going. She's she's got the parents
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that everyone else wants. As it turns out, she's got
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fantastic parents. Please welcome joel Mon. What's up? A k A?
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The Marvel Avenger. Y'all have to come up with some
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new nicknames for me. I did that one, and I'm
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pretty paud of it. Some of them stick and we
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like them. I like, listen, Marvel Avenger is not going anywhere.
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But yeah, how are you doing today? Even even the
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luxurious life? Oh, you know, just doing what I can.
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Just eating whole pineapples, just take them bites out of
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pineapples like their regular apples. And then people are like,
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oh my god, is that person? Okay, yeah, it's too
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weird out people with the way you eat a pineapple,
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and I'm doing it. I mean, look, the blessings keep
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coming in, you know, and I and I and I
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have to stay blessed, never stressed. But let's welcome our
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guest for today. This is somebody you know who I
02:03
first realized this is a guest that I really funk
02:06
with because her kid games bonkers. It's like, yo, you
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posing sneakers. I like sneakers too. This you're telling me
02:11
about the goat person that lived behind her school back
02:14
in Texas, And I said, this, go on, you are
02:16
so interesting. You might know them as a stand up comedian,
02:20
an improviser, a fucking writer, or a fantastic guest on
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this show. You've seen her all over doing her stand
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up and you know, and she's blessing us. Okay, she's
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moving past the Netflix or the Hulus or MTVS and
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coming to our little quaint podcast and blessed us with
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the presidents, please welcome the legend ever made her? Thank
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you so much. What a what a really great introduction. Uh,
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what's up, my little I hearts? What a radio personality
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came up with that? A little what's new? Just a
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little bit of this, little bit of that, um, you know,
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navigating all the new deltas and the lambda's, the variants,
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just some life adjustments. Wait till those capitals, you know
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what I mean, a thing, you know, Wait till wait
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till sigap sigap it comes along, or gamma phi beta
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or we're in trouble when try delt comes Okay, those
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are all there's a marvel villain whose name is like
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Delta Kai variant and he okay, it was the Marvel
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was the m C you thing not real? Because I'm
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trying to remember who this villain is name silver Hands,
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and like his eyes are like shadow eyes, and he's
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like a mega villain. Like he's like me with silver hands,
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and like my dog. There's always like what's wrong, and
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I'm like, it's got the teeth. So it was like,
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how what are you feeling? Can you please use your
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words anytime I'm like in a fight like I feel
04:12
in the Silver Hands, anybody else here try to express
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I mean, if you've got if you've got Joel stumped,
04:19
this may not be around. I have googled it to
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try to figure out and the top two options are
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Ultra Human Night and Omega Red, which maybe making of
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Omega Red. Omega Red. Oh but Omega Red has some
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little tentacles that come out. You find that. How did
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you search that? I typed in mega villain with silver
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had and I guess the silver hands you're referring to
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the tentacles. Okay, maybe not this guy, because he was
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on the cartoon as well. Where do you seeing this
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villain in the cartoons that I have a few X
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Men comic books. I should go get Red is definitely
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an x Men. No, Maga Red is an x Men.
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But this is maybe like when the other Galaxy comes
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in and they're like, what is this? Maybe not necessarily
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when they go to dinosaur town town. Do you guys
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remember that all silver? You said, like silver vibe silver,
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str y f e No, I think he fights Cable.
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He fights Cable? Is it jug or not? You have
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all her hands? But he has an X Men and
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he fights. Well here's the thing, but Strife is a
05:36
clone of Cable. That's why I asked that it's not Chucker. Okay,
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well send the photo brew on that while the people
05:44
who probably know this and are listening like screaming into
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the is he's got a cape he does. Okay, I'll
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put my money on Strife because you know, we see
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we see this and it's it is Cable's clone. So
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I feel like we got a lot going here. We'll
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leave it there. We're going to shelter this conversation. Let's
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table that. Let's put a pin in this called the
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worst comics podcast You've ever heard, and a comic on
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let me guess this is a fun comic on game
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where I try to describe the superhero supervillain and then
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all the most vague details yea, and they're like, thing, bang, Okay,
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that actually would be a fantastic game, nobody, but are
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still my freaking idea? And you heard it here. You
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mail yourself this podcast episode, so you know it's copy written. Okay,
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I remember like that, you can't touch it. If this
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fucking industry takes one more thing away from me, I'm
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going to scream. I'm going to become strife the natural evolution.
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Before we progress through our comic book dissertation and discussion,
06:57
let's give a quick preview of what we're gonna be
06:59
talking about in the rest of the episode. We're gonna
07:01
be talking about this fight between Ron De Santis and
07:03
Joe Biden really just rhn de Santis being racist because
07:07
Joe Biden said, hey, get your act together over there
07:09
in Florida. Then we'll talk about Fox and Friends. They're
07:11
fighting over the vaccine, but like you know, like very
07:14
passive aggressive, like conservative white people fighting where they're like
07:17
I don't know about that, like you don't, well, I
07:19
don't want to. But there's still there's some some trouble
07:22
in Paradise. We're also gonna talk about the police. They're
07:26
having trouble recruiting people, oh no, and because of that,
07:30
they are turning to the algorithm to try and identify
07:34
new cops. Well, we'll see there. See, this is where
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the marketing side comes in, because clearly this was being
07:43
put out there to let people know what their trouble
07:46
is and what they're trying to do different. We'll also
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talk about Look, if you remember, we're coming up on
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the twentieth anniversary of not just nine eleven, but of
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Aaliyah passing away Aug thousand one. I remember where I was.
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I was at my grand parents time sharing Anaheim. Okay,
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seventeen years old. Not given a funk until I heard
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that and then be et just it was just a
08:07
tear fest. There's a new book coming out that has
08:10
some really interesting allegations about what may have happened that
08:13
day she boarded that fateful flight, and it's wild. And
08:17
on top of that, her we also got teased that
08:19
her catalog might come out, but then also her estate
08:22
has issues with that. We'll get this. We'll have to
08:23
do a quick Aliah update because right now the only
08:26
album out there is a nothing but a Number that
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we have other ones too, like one in a Million
08:33
and the self titled Aliah that we're like, where's that one.
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But before we get into any of that, the Zeke Gang,
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I gotta let you know we are going to have
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from the safety of our own homes on the beautiful Internet. Now, ever,
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we gotta ask you, what is something from your search
09:56
history besides silver hair hand bad Guy m c U
10:01
that is revealing about who you are and what you're
10:03
up to. Oh Ship, I've been really just I guess
10:10
I've really just been going through it because right now
10:14
my search history is like YouTube videos of Pima Shoulder
10:19
on Buddhist meditation, shopping sites, psychologist process. By buying, get
10:32
the endorphins, get the dopamine, feeling good, buying, working it
10:36
through work. What's going to the car, what's in the car,
10:39
what's in the cup? Everybody's doing sales, right, so I'm
10:42
looking at a lot of Craig Greens. I'm looking at
10:44
a lot of Henrik Bibskoff, but maybe I'll know I
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don't know any of those things. Henrik Bibskoff is. I
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think he's a Danish designer. He's really he has really
10:55
fun designs, kind of quirky outfits. Craig Green, I just
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feel good and the fits fashion. Yes, yeah, but also
11:06
like just I've also been you know, like setting goals
11:10
again and steps to goals because I feel like was
11:15
such a fuck of a mindset and I was like,
11:18
I have I gotta what you know what I mean, Like,
11:22
I'll be honest with you all, Like in my little
11:24
I Hearts, I'm not going to stop calling the listeners
11:27
little like Yeah, I'm tired of like not being vulnerable.
11:30
I'm just gonna be vulnerable. Like it was a weird
11:33
time for everyone. I got a little depressed. I felt
11:37
a lack of motivation because it was wrong that nothing
11:41
wrong with that. And now it's like, oh, here with
11:43
my daily goals, Like it's great that you can if
11:46
you're seeing the light at the end of the at
11:48
the end of the cave. I know that some psychologists
11:50
have been calling cave syndrome because of you know, because
11:53
it's almost like nearly two years of trying to live
11:57
a certain way that it's become normal that like we
11:59
had to retreat to our caves sort of metaphorically to
12:03
stay safe and to also like sort of realign like
12:07
what we think is normal. That coming out is like
12:09
very different now of being like there's all the stress
12:12
and they've they've talked about it all, like since vaccines
12:14
have been coming out, but cave re emergence is the
12:17
one that I think I identify with the most. That
12:20
sounds like a Tim the Toolman Taylor saying man has
12:26
to come out of his cave. And then like Wilson's
12:29
just they're like peering over the fucking fence. So you're like, bro,
12:32
can you go in your cave for a second? Man
12:36
spying all my kids playing in the backyard. What is
12:38
his name? Al L? Borgan? Yeah, whatever, Borland? For some reason,
12:43
he's just like polishing a bowling ball. Old Richard Carne
12:49
was also I wish my search was funny, but I
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literally went to my history and I was like, here,
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what you're up to, and you're you're working on your Yeah,
13:02
and if anybody's going through a hard time and depression.
13:05
I highly recommend you just put it on there one therapy.
13:09
But even if you're not a Buddhist, there's a YouTube
13:14
link called The Strength to Do It gives us joy
13:19
and listen to it what you're doing whatever you know.
13:22
It's a YouTube link. Who cares, might be a podcast,
13:24
but I highly recommend it because it was hard to
13:28
find the joy and writing comedy or doing comedy and
13:31
sometimes it takes strength. I don't know. It's just it's
13:34
a great talk and it's really helped me through. So
13:37
if you're going through cave syndrome, you're going through depression,
13:40
I highly highly recommend that something to give nudge you
13:44
in the right direction for sure, and then go buy
13:46
something off the internet and then go buy some reusable straws.
13:50
It's like, go buy some new shoes strings. I'm buying
13:55
crazy Ship. I'm like, yeah, these shoes would look cool
14:01
with full rest orange shoe strings. I just kind of
14:06
changing up my street. I never changed my shoe strings,
14:08
and I'm look at how this change is the entire
14:10
silhouette of my shoe, Like it just suddenly like different
14:13
parts of it pop, and it's just it's like having
14:15
new shoes with like a simple low cost change. And
14:19
I really I appreciate that. I enjoy it. Yes, um, Ever,
14:23
what's something that you think is overrated? I'm gonna say
14:28
something that is overrated? Truffle, truffle fries, truffle seasoning. I'm
14:34
over it. I'll put my foot down. I went, I
14:37
got out of my cave. Everything was truffle fry. This
14:40
truffle fry that it tasted disgusting. I'm over it. Like
14:47
so up in their face. I said, bring the chef out,
14:54
bring the chef out. You call this fries? Just give
14:56
them to me a regular salt and that's it. Go on,
15:00
Rosemary herbs of ship, Bring any p po out here
15:06
to see this. No mask, there's all. There's the thing, man,
15:10
like I feel that, you know, the truffle became one
15:14
of those things where you could put it in the title,
15:16
and then that justified raising the cost of it by
15:19
you know what I mean, because like, oh, man, don't
15:21
get up someone on the truffle fries, like, well, what's different?
15:24
We put some perfumed oil on it. Don't ask if
15:27
it's if it's actual truffle oil, because that's another big distinction.
15:31
Out there in the food world. Is there's like perfumed
15:33
truffle oil and then there's like true truffle oil, and
15:37
yeah you can, you can mark it up. You know.
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I enjoyed the taste. But yeah, it's definitely it's it's everywhere.
15:43
It's it's everywhere. There fried rice, that's happening in San
15:49
Francisco right now. Rice, Yeah, because it's got lago and
15:54
uni and heaviar and black truffles and it's just like
15:59
I think there's some crab in there too. It's like,
16:01
it's this, this is what's happening. I don't like so
16:04
many flavors, just like that. You want to eat the
16:08
things individually, you know, I don't want to mix it
16:10
up or whatever. For a bowle. Friend, please tell me
16:15
that's not a white person sing that. I'm actually not.
16:19
Let me see. I remember a tweet that was like
16:21
so funny, was like immigrants have the right to like
16:24
overcharge white people for our regular cultural food. Yeah, that's true, exactly.
16:29
Hit him with the hit him with the mark up.
16:32
But yeah, Chef Rob Lamb so grain of salt raw.
16:41
Lamb has had a lot of food poison in cases,
16:45
apparently from this restaurants. Ever, what's something that you think
16:49
is underrated? Now, this might do it might seem like
16:54
it's already overrated, underrated, high quality scented candle. Oh, ever,
17:02
speak my language. Somebody was like, you're spending how much
17:07
on a scented candle. I'm like, no, you don't get it.
17:10
This is my cave. My cave smells good though, Yeah,
17:13
and that's a reflection on me and my emotional state.
17:16
Feels good. What's not my little hearts are getting into
17:22
and and what brands because people are big brands when
17:25
it comes to their big candles. Well, I will say, okay,
17:29
first of all too, but I've been really getting into
17:31
co pall, but I'm trying. There is a coball shortage,
17:33
but she should use for spiritual reason whatever, whatever I go,
17:37
it's on my alter as well. But Patty Wax, big
17:41
fan of Patti Wax. Right now, they have a parts
17:43
candle and you buy this and I donate to National Parks.
17:48
But then they have like they have like also they
17:50
have like masculine since which I really like, you know,
17:53
like your leathers and your bourbons for the listeners out here, Um,
17:58
pretty butchey looking, uh, and and but I also have
18:02
been really getting into willow and cotton and like an
18:08
I try a French lavender candle that is to die for.
18:13
How do you How do y'all use your candles? Are
18:15
they burning all the time? Are they context dual candles?
18:18
Are they do you like or do you do it
18:20
most of the day so it helps scent your home?
18:22
How what's your what's your strategy with the candle? I'm
18:25
gonna let you go first because I really want to
18:27
hear how you do it? Okay, okay. So usually it's
18:29
like when I need a pick me up, right, and
18:32
then so I have out the street for me? Is
18:35
this great little show. I'm not giving out the name.
18:37
I should promote it, but if more people go there,
18:39
I'll be upset. It's like beautiful and they make all
18:41
them have the spiritual candles, Some have glitter in them,
18:44
some like have that wood wick. So it's like creating
18:48
your house of intuition. And it's like wait, wait, it's
18:55
it's locally owned and it's perfect and like it's literally
18:59
just my whole was just warm. Stop. It just warm
19:04
and delicious and so like just cozy, and that's what
19:08
I really love about it, but then you know, sometimes
19:10
you're like, I feel like a really light, fresh air set,
19:13
but sometimes you need like I have. UM. I also
19:15
buy D and D candles, which I love. So they're
19:18
made to set for different scenes you're playing during D
19:21
and D. Dude, I have one that's a tavern and
19:23
it sells like red wine and leather. Her Majesty my partners.
19:29
Her friend opened a candle store like in l A
19:32
that's like sort of based on art like role playing games.
19:35
Is it the same one Cantrap candles? I think so yes.
19:42
I love them. You guys online for Cantrip candles, so
19:45
I don't mind shouting them out. They are brilliant. Their
19:47
candles smell amazing. There's one that smells like parchment paper
19:50
if you're like in a library or a monastery or something.
19:53
But then at the end of the candle, when you're
19:55
done burning it, there's a fresh D twenty in there
19:58
at the bottom, just waiting for you to add to
20:00
your dice collection, which is already too large. And I
20:02
just love that they're indulging in a different like like
20:06
hobby slash collection thing. There should be dices about the candles,
20:09
but it's there and it's wonderful. Yeah, it's so funny.
20:12
The guy christof is a classmate of her majesty, like
20:16
the who runs who owns that place? And I remember
20:18
here to what the count said. Look at this, This
20:20
is tight for me. I like to have in the winter.
20:23
That's when I could get off the candles go off
20:26
around me because it has like you said, it has
20:28
a smell like just as like a Hallmark fucking movie
20:32
in the house, the ball, it's game over. Yeah it's
20:35
the candles. I don't do candles in the summer, really,
20:39
but when you get a floral candle for the summer. Okay.
20:44
These are the kinds of things that we need to
20:45
know about. And the listeners, the I hearts if you will,
20:48
or there's that game whatever however you identify. These are
20:51
tips for you to take home. All right, let's pay
20:54
some bills real quick and we will be right back
20:57
after this. And we're back. I just want to say,
21:10
I'm sorry to keep harping hunt candles, but have you
21:12
all tried homesick those ones that are like scented after
21:15
different states for places, Yes, yeah it's but yeah, it's
21:24
like Texas and Florida ones just smell like COVID R.
21:30
It's like someone's not smell anymore. Just it's just not Yeah,
21:34
trick candles, You're like, oh no, hey, you know what,
21:38
do you know what that's that's to shut that out? One.
21:43
She just leveled up. He's taking this podcast to a
21:46
first rate podcast. Slowdown, Joel, slowdown. Well, let's talk about
21:50
speaking of Florida in Texas. Yes, the COVID rates in
21:54
Texas and Florida, they account for about one third of
21:56
all COVID cases in the nation. And that shouldn't be
21:59
a surprise since those states have significantly low vaccine rates,
22:03
and they also have governors that seem to have some
22:05
very deep desire to watch their constituents get sick and aggressively,
22:09
you know, they're uplosing any kind of safety measures, but
22:12
like under the name of freedom. So you know, Joe Biden,
22:17
he's the president. Turns out, I mean, if if you
22:19
believe the election or some of the people on the internet.
22:22
But anyway, Joe Biden, President, Joe Biden has been trying
22:25
to get folks to obviously get the vaccine, and you know,
22:27
there's actually been some good news. There's there was a
22:29
substantial increase in people getting vaccinated across sort of the Southeast,
22:33
where a lot of people were holding out on getting vaccines.
22:36
So I just want to read this quick quote. The
22:38
vaccination rate reached its highest level since early last month,
22:41
with eight hundred sixty four thousand doses administered. White House
22:43
Coronavirus Response coordinator told reporters about five thousand of those
22:48
where the patients first shots, so suggesting more unvaccinated people
22:53
are coming to the table, and that the vaccination rates
22:57
in places especially like Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, Alabama, Oklahoma, and
23:01
Mississippi have hit levels not seen since April. So it
23:05
seems I think there's probably enough anecdotal evidence. Like I
23:08
feel like every week there's a headline about someone who
23:11
was like fuck the vaccine, and then like and then
23:14
they passed away a week later. It's like really sad,
23:17
Like in the beginning, a lot of people are like
23:19
funk around find out, but when you see it more
23:21
and more, it's like God, like they're leaving children behind
23:24
and families and things like that. It's there's so much
23:27
potential in the in the reverb of of the pain
23:30
that generations will carry exactly even living through this, you
23:35
know that that we individually carry, but also like having
23:38
a loved one pass away. You know sometimes even let's
23:42
say they not to love everybody in the same thing.
23:45
But when you have people who are vaccine deniers and
23:47
a family going like what the fuck and they passed away,
23:50
like there's a bitterness that is in the it's just
23:53
gonna be in the hearts for so long. Like, yeah,
23:57
turn to something metastasized into something else too, if you're
24:00
not really confronting that. Yeah, right, exactly. But the thing is,
24:07
even with those levels, you know, on the rise, there's
24:10
still so much more to do because we're still like
24:13
woefully under the numbers we need to be to try
24:16
and get any place towards like really eradicating this thing,
24:21
at least in this country. So what by Joe Biden said,
24:24
and look he's taking he's taking particular shots at Greg
24:27
Abbott and Rohn de Santis. He's saying, quote, if some
24:29
governors aren't willing to do the right thing to beat
24:31
this pandemic, then they should allow businesses and universities who
24:34
want to do the right thing to be able to
24:36
do it. I say to these governors, please help. But
24:38
if you aren't going to help at least get out
24:40
of the way. So but getting out of the way
24:43
would be helping and therefore indirect opposition of their end goal, right,
24:48
very student observation, specifically to make it more challenge. It's
24:53
wild to me because now children are dying, like healthy
24:56
athletic children are just falling over and dying. And still
25:01
they're like, you know. And then Santa was the Santas
25:03
who was like, I'm just gonna pool school funding. If
25:05
you guys have a mass mandate? Are you out of
25:07
your mind? Are you? Are you? What is what? They
25:11
can't even try to protect themselves, like whether it's masks
25:16
or teaching critical race theory. There's some schools that are
25:18
getting their funds bull not in Florida, but I think
25:21
and I want to say Arkansas, Mississippi where they're like, oh,
25:24
you're teaching critical race theory and they're like, we're not. Again,
25:28
if you have these people to define it, they have
25:31
no idea what critical race theory even means. They can't
25:33
tell you what it is. They just want to know
25:35
if if it's being taught. It's just ridiculous. So I
25:39
just want to bring up ron to santis is reaction
25:42
because it was very adult and very mature and very
25:48
word so look at him clapped back at Joe Biden.
25:53
Joe Biden is taken to himself to try to single
25:56
out Florida over COVID. This is a I who ran
26:00
for president saying he was going to quote shut down
26:03
the virus, and what has he done. He's imported more
26:06
virus from around the world by having a wide open
26:09
southern border. Okay, so cut racism as a defense, yea,
26:17
the thing to think about it as I got to
26:19
go shop. That's circular logic of just being like, it's
26:26
your fault because immigrants, I'm not doing anything to stop
26:30
that where we're actively encouraging it. But you know that
26:34
good old stand by immigrants, Like yeah, well he's just again,
26:38
this seems to be the one tactic that because Ted
26:40
Ted Cruz did the same thing, like because of Shy,
26:45
they don't have anything like substantive to add to this
26:48
aside from just pivoting to xenophobia because they think hopefully
26:52
that will connect. And he continued his slam on Biden.
26:56
Listen to him, really come for Joe Biden, like that
26:59
was just the beginning of his clap back, why don't
27:02
you do your job? Why don't you get this border secure?
27:06
And until you do that, I don't want to hear
27:09
a blip about COVID from you. Thank you blip about
27:17
cod For me? What's wild to me? It's like these
27:21
even if you want to, because somewhat conflict immigration with
27:25
COVID is two totally different problems, right, Like securing the
27:31
border is not going to stop the rampant spread of
27:34
this virus in your community, like your voters, you're don't
27:38
even share a border country one to your voters are
27:42
actively dying, like it's your people that are What is
27:45
the logic here? There is none? And and you know
27:48
what's interesting is that the people in Florida seemed to
27:51
also get it too, because since Marrow, like the last
27:55
couple of months, his reproval ratings have dropped ten. Even
28:00
in the beginning, people like love that he was like,
28:02
fuck science dead is sick, y'all? That is clearly not work.
28:07
And now Joe Biden has higher approval ratings than the
28:11
sactist does. Oh that's why he's angry, okay, And and
28:16
there's a lot of pools showing like even in like
28:18
these hypothetical matchups with him and Democrat Charlie Christ for governor,
28:23
he'd lose, and then like the actual person who's running
28:26
as a challenger is like closing the gap too, so
28:29
it might not be a good Um I do I
28:32
do have, like we're talking about like fun gas, I
28:35
have a story. So I did a show and I
28:37
do cross Like a lot of my shows are like
28:40
crowd work, like I chat with people and like I
28:44
was making fun of Slack and this lady was like yeah, yeah,
28:47
I'm like so afterwards, I was like, I'm gonna go
28:48
talk to her and like the platform in the community, okay,
28:52
the working thing that we've all had to hell, um,
28:58
I literally came when I deleted that app off my phone,
29:07
have an orgasm. I'm sorry that's such a juvenile joke.
29:11
But she was there, probably like on a second or
29:13
a third date, and they were like this really hot
29:17
like l a couple, and I was like, okay, like
29:25
I don't know why I brought in what they looked like,
29:27
but they were like a hot they looked they were
29:29
like a hot. They were hot sexy, and the lady
29:37
and I we were talking about like she grew up
29:39
in Dallas and like, you know, I grew about outside
29:42
and like little I literally grew up out sad and
29:44
little river and how that. And we were talking about
29:49
like we were just chatting shooting the ship and like
29:53
I had my mask on. She was, oh, I'm vaccinated, said, oh,
29:55
I'm I'm vaccinated too. I just like to be safe.
29:57
And the guy goes, oh, I'm not vaccinated, and we laughed.
29:59
We thought was making a joke and and I was like, yeah,
30:03
I mean I'm not vaccinated and he goes no, I
30:05
haven't been vaccinated since I was a child, And like
30:09
the woman's face briefly showed like panic and like what
30:12
the what the fuck? Like what like and she goes
30:15
but what and he goes oh yeah, and she goes, no,
30:18
you told me you were vaccinated, and he goes, no,
30:22
I didn't, and she was like, yes you did. But
30:26
also like we were still trying to like right, like
30:29
being like high spirits and joking around, and he goes, no,
30:33
I don't believe in vaccines. I told you I was healthy.
30:37
Oh lied by omission and was like no, I told
30:42
her I was healthy. And then it goes we all
30:45
die when we're gonna die and I was like and
30:52
she just moved away and then we all laughed and
30:54
I was like, I made a joke. I was like, well,
30:56
I'm gonna go, I'll clean up, and he's like, I'm
30:59
coming with you. And she was like saying men are dogs.
31:03
Man Like, sorry, sorry, that's and that's why I'm gay
31:07
because men are dog. Yes, but I've never heard that before.
31:14
Just being out here going like no, I thought it
31:16
was healthy, like and just watching someone process that too
31:20
is like having a front row seat to that is
31:22
a little awkward. It was fucked. I went on and
31:26
I was like, do I have the dog? The thing is,
31:29
this kind of thing is happening a lot, even in
31:31
conservative the spears, where people are now getting vaccinated and
31:35
like feeling like they're being betrayed by people because they're
31:38
like I thought we were anti VAXX and now you're
31:40
Do you believe in all this all this reporting that
31:43
shows that being unvaccinated is could be a potential death
31:46
sentence for you for the ones you love if you're asymptomatic. Yeah, exactly.
31:54
I Mean it's like the one thing I think a
31:56
lot of people can't get around their heads around too.
31:58
It's like I'm you know, compromise people too. It's like like,
32:00
especially with like the flu shot, when I was first
32:02
sort of like I can't like do I need it
32:04
or whatever, And a friend of mine who's a nurse
32:07
was like, yeah, because there are people who will die
32:09
just because you don't have them, like, and it's your
32:11
duty to protect people as well, Like just because I
32:14
was like, oh right, okay, yeah, thank you. I didn't
32:17
think about that at all. I never thought about that actually,
32:21
like just a flu shot because I was like, oh,
32:22
I don't need a flu shot. I'm pretty healthy, Like
32:24
I haven't had the flu in a long time. It's
32:26
the same thing, yeah, because you'll be around people who
32:29
are unable to be safe. And that was when I
32:31
first sort of began to even wrap my head around
32:33
the sort of this relationship that we have to each
32:37
other in this medical context. And it seems like, you know,
32:40
in Fox Too, we saw that they've had a bit
32:42
of a change of heart over the last few weeks
32:46
or months even where they're like suddenly like oh yeah,
32:48
like vaccines are good and like COVID is bad, and
32:52
normally the three Clowns at the Three Ring Circus over
32:55
at Fox and Friends in the morning. They usually get
32:57
along very well because they're always on the same page
32:59
about how ignorant they are. But over the last month
33:02
you can tell that Steve Doocy he thinks vaccines work.
33:06
Like we played a clip of a few weeks ago
33:07
where he was like all that stuff about microchips or that,
33:10
like they're going to surveil you, Like it's all fake,
33:13
it's all nonsense. The vaccines work. You should get a vaccine.
33:17
He said that out loud on Fox and Friends, right,
33:19
and Brian Kilmeade was like, kind of like scoffing. But
33:23
this and I've noticed, you know, Brian Kilmead he'd like
33:25
pull faces when Steve Doocey would say that, you know,
33:28
like when someone says the Clippers will win the championscine
33:32
of course, yeah, oh no, of course. And this is
33:35
the thing. A recent poll even showed that vaccine hesitancy
33:38
among Fox News viewers, specifically, it's dropped by ten percent
33:42
since March, and in March it was like thirty seven percent.
33:45
They're like, we're not I'm not working with it. Now
33:46
it's down to And on Thursday they had a really
33:51
fun exchange where Doocey noted a little bit inaccurately that
33:54
about of Arkansas COVID hospitalizations were children. Really, what the
33:59
facts are is nearly nine of the active cases in
34:02
the state are currently among children under eighteen, and then
34:05
among hospitalized children are twelve and under. So that's like
34:11
a really killing children. These are scary numbers, you know,
34:17
especially if you are go back to school, Like there's
34:21
just no way I don't have offspring. But if I did,
34:23
absolutely we're going to figure out home schooling, like I'm
34:25
buying grandma and grandpa out whatever we gotta do. But
34:28
that's the way I'm letting you dive into full of disease.
34:32
Like yeah, well that's the thing. Hearing numbers like that,
34:36
I think most normal parents, you're parental evolutionary instincts would
34:40
be to protect your offspring at the very least when
34:43
you hear things like that. So Doocy essentially made this
34:45
point to sort of be like, y'all get the vaccine,
34:48
like don't look around, because even the governor of Arkansas
34:51
is like I regret signing a bill that said I
34:53
couldn't do anything about COVID, and also like band masks,
34:56
like I fucked up bad, and I just want to
34:59
play this clip for so you can kind of hear
35:01
how Steve Doocy, you know, goes on to be like, no,
35:04
this is this is something important. But also keep in
35:06
mind Brian Kilmeade is trying to like and also as
35:10
the air Heart, they're almost trying to be like, heyy,
35:13
like what you're trying to say. What's trying to say?
35:14
What's trying to say? Apparently about of the people who
35:19
are in hospitals with coronavirus, of them are children, So
35:24
that's one of the things that are obviously gonna be
35:26
talking about. There are a lot of kids under twelve
35:28
cannot currently be vaccinated. But if your kids are over
35:31
the twelve, you probably ought to get the shot. But
35:35
we'll see a doctor decide what you want to do.
35:37
That's usually people go to for medical advice, doctors. I
35:40
didn't go to a doctor before I got the show.
35:42
That decision, that's your decision. But I don't think anchor
35:46
should be recommending medical advice. Well, you know, but a
35:50
lot of people have been tuning into the show for
35:52
twenty five years to see what we think about different things.
35:55
I think if you have the opportunity get the shot, right,
35:58
but shouldn't you see a doctor to you expertise about
36:01
what they're saying. There's some women that don't want to
36:03
get it if they're pregnant. This is where they go
36:09
sniping and trying to undercut this whole thing. You know,
36:12
that is such a bitch move, because like y'all are
36:17
constantly telling people what to do and what not to do.
36:19
So many times I'll have just been like, don't get
36:22
the shot, like it's a scan. These people are lying
36:24
to you, and yeah, I can't take one person being like,
36:27
you know, maybe maybe get it since we have literal
36:30
doctors saying, hey cases our children. Yeah, And I think
36:35
this is the funny thing. Kill me really struck on
36:38
something when he said, I don't know if it's a
36:39
place for an anchor to give him a like that's
36:41
how he tried to undercut Steve Diston's point. Allow me
36:43
to play this viral clip from last week where all
36:47
you've been hearing on Fox News is motherfucker's who aren't
36:50
medical experts give you fucked up advice? And it's just
36:55
a compilation a lot of people just starting off with
36:57
the sort of caveat of I'm not a doctor. But
37:00
just listen to how frequent this happens. I'm not a doctor,
37:03
but i'm not anical health but professional. I'm not a doctor,
37:09
but I'm not a physician. And I'm not a public
37:11
health expert but not an epidemiologist. But I'm not a doctor.
37:15
But I'm not a doctor. But I'm not a doctor.
37:18
But I figured this out, well, I'm not a public
37:20
health experpose. No, you're not a doctor, but you know golf,
37:23
you're not a health expert myself. I'm not a doctor,
37:26
but I'm not a doctor. I'm not a doctor. But
37:29
if I'm not a doctor, but I'm not a doctor.
37:31
But I'm not a doctor. But I'm not a doctor.
37:33
But but I'm not a doctor, but I'm not I
37:35
think we get the point a minute long halfway through
37:42
this and it's all nothing. But I'm not a doctor.
37:44
But but if you're gonna say, I'm not a blank,
37:48
but just stop, you don't have to go I'm not racist,
37:51
but I'm not a doctor. But just then, no one
37:53
needs to be your opinion. I'm not a woman of color.
37:56
But and then I read a child. Man, Hey you're
38:04
coming with that big fox energy, and that's funny. They're
38:07
suddenly like, that's how that's and I think that's what
38:11
really makes it difficult. That's why I kind of feel
38:13
for people who have been who unfortunately this is the
38:15
ship that they trust and you're getting fucking quadruple speak
38:19
in a given hour watching that channel, and you're not
38:21
gonna know what the fuss going on, So very very
38:26
go ahead and go and talk to That's also dangerous
38:29
because then they're looking on the website information directly directly
38:37
nation because Biden is shipping planes of school children in
38:43
in the middle of the night. One of my family
38:45
remembers posted an article about that flying children into the
38:51
where he's like shipping children in from other countries. He's
38:56
like insinuating that Biden is a pedophile. I didn't. I
39:01
was like, I'm not clicking on this because I know
39:03
what the funk is going to happen with the algorithm
39:05
search history. Who knows what the fuck information this site
39:09
is getting from me? Yeah, I don't want to, you know,
39:13
up in there whatever. But it was just like, you know,
39:17
it's also like, yeah, I go do your own research,
39:19
but a lot of people you don't know where to start. Yeah,
39:23
it's like there's no baseline that everyone can agree, like, okay,
39:26
we can what if it's in this Cyclopedia Britannica. Are
39:29
we gonna say, can we start there as a baseline
39:33
for truth or no? It's like no, no, no as biased.
39:35
What do you like? I like this a geo cities
39:37
website that has its all text that suck up HTML
39:41
on it that telling me about how if I get
39:43
the vaccine, I will get e D. My low speed
39:47
internet will load this site. So speaking of low speed
39:53
internet and just trouble on the Internet, I want to
39:56
talk about law enforcement because apparently police start having a
40:00
very tough time finding willing recruits that will brutalize the
40:05
more and reframing it as law enforcement. And this was
40:08
even before the uprisings last summer. UH and pandemic only
40:11
made things harder because apparently they would just go to
40:13
job fairs and be like, hey, would you like to
40:16
be a savior and with a gun type thing and
40:19
this like the l A p D. Like they've had
40:22
some spokespeople come out and be like, yeah, it's been difficult,
40:24
they said, quote. Historically, the majority of our recruitment efforts
40:27
have been in person canvassing, where we actually go out
40:30
to school trade shows or meet with organizations. Then they
40:33
go on to say they've been struggling. LAPD has been
40:35
struggling to hit its target for recruiting women, black and
40:38
Asian American applicants. So what are they pivoting too? They're
40:43
using the same tech that many social media platforms used
40:46
to figure out who we are and what we like
40:49
and what they might be able to sell to us.
40:51
It's the same way, you know how like Instagram ads
40:53
just started hitting different like over the last year. The
40:57
fuck they fucking know me? Why are they a fund
41:00
vintage basketball shorts in front of me? They know? What?
41:04
The fuck? It's the same mechanism that's now being used
41:08
to find new police quote the l a p D
41:11
is one of many police departments recruiting by targeting ads
41:14
based on personality and not identity. So this is where
41:17
they're trying to sort of let you know, like what
41:19
they're what the vibe is now. Police agencies want jobs,
41:21
to want job ads to make the position look benevolent
41:25
and community oriented. The ads reflect and hopefully attract officers
41:29
that are service oriented and less money driven, who understand bias,
41:32
and who have high risk tolerance and then this company,
41:35
Census's like marketing company. They cross reference survey data with
41:39
the lookalike audiences on social media platforms to identify the
41:42
characteristics that police agencies say make an ideal candidate, which
41:46
is respect for authority, awareness of social biases, interest in service,
41:50
and a willingness to compromise social life for their career.
41:53
These two VEN diagrams do not overlap, like the circles
41:56
don't overlap. They don't form a proper VEN diagram because
41:59
there's no enter people to phill these two separate things. Right,
42:03
respects authority, but it's community or oriented. I'm just not
42:08
seeing it. It sounds like a bit of a unicorn.
42:11
Sounds like a bit of a unicorn. And they're what
42:13
they are looking for is presenting a what they call
42:16
guardian five in their ads. And they're in these ads
42:19
they're rarely showing any kind of association with weapons or
42:23
squad cars or even arresting people like the police love though.
42:28
Well see, I think they were like, oh, when we
42:29
lead with that, we were kind of getting some aggrob people.
42:32
Maybe if we switch it now, they said, Now they
42:35
ad stress community work with images of officers interacting with juveniles.
42:39
At community events, patrolling on foot, and giving speeches in classrooms.
42:44
The videos often include statements such as quote, we are
42:46
community oriented department, or we value working with diverse communities.
42:51
We value having officers live in their communities that they
42:54
work in. Oh. One, I saw somebody take a screenshot
42:58
of I don't think it was l a p D.
43:00
Was like trying to find it if I can't all
43:02
send it. But one of the perks, because they were
43:04
targeted to become a cop, like May with the Instagram page,
43:08
is it called qualified immunity one? That was one of
43:14
the perks of becoming a cop. What was it? Yeah? Wait,
43:22
so they're leading with you will be legislatively protected from
43:26
being prosecuted because you're a police. Wait, is your friend
43:31
some kind of super Is your friend the supervillain you
43:33
were trying to identify from em No? No No, no, they
43:36
weren't going like, hey, check it out. It was like
43:38
this is fucked up, right right right? But that was
43:41
but that was the ad that said qualified immunity was
43:44
one of the Wow, that's like the problematic features of
43:49
law enforcement that we're trying to fucking undo that. Yeah,
43:56
we can't. We can't even hold police accountable for any
44:02
kind of transgressions wrongdoing because it qualified to MUNI qualified
44:06
immunity makes it so difficult to charge to say, uh,
44:09
this person blinded me and I can't have no recourse.
44:14
I see. The idea that you're going to be able
44:15
to change the police force by hiring better is so
44:18
ridiculous because the number of cops left the force and
44:21
spoken very specifically about how when they try to do
44:23
the right thing, they were absolutely shut down, either fired,
44:28
bullied to an extent that made them want to leave,
44:30
or physically assaulted by other officers for reporting on their
44:34
fellow officer for things are horrible, like doing horrible things.
44:38
I'm like, yes, planting evidence, but also sexually assaulting people
44:42
they had detained. Like it is, this is a top
44:46
down either reformation or abolition that needs to happen. There's
44:51
there's truly no way you can hire this culture out
44:54
of what we're formally slave catchers. It's just not going
44:58
to happen exactly, and I mean we will. We're still
45:01
training police to not have empathy for the unhoused or
45:04
those who are struggling with their mental health, and most
45:07
people aren't even able, like not just police most people
45:11
aren't even able to see crimes of survival for what
45:14
they are, Like they think people are stealing cars or
45:16
their shoplifting, or they're selling drugs and all this other
45:19
ship because they want to funk like that's how they
45:21
want to get retired and put into a four oh
45:23
one k No, that's people surviving because they have no
45:26
other options available to them. And we don't even look
45:29
at this as like failings societal failings that we are
45:32
leaving people vulnerable and left behind, and then they're so
45:35
destitute that that's what they have to resort to. We
45:38
still look at us, their criminals. We gotta do something
45:40
about it. And that's again to your point, Joel, like
45:43
whether it's trying to find good apples or whatever the
45:46
funk they think it is, it's not as effective because
45:49
we have such a fund we have. We have to
45:51
have a much more of like just substantial reckoning with
45:55
what our ideas is even of even like law or
45:59
police or safety a couple of things. One I will
46:03
say it is an improved like people are becoming, especially
46:08
in my hometown, are becoming a little bit more like whoke,
46:12
I guess you could say, or I will say aware
46:15
that cops aren't always right, which is a big thing
46:20
coming from rural Texas. Like to hear family members go, well,
46:24
we wanted to call like social services, Like there's you know,
46:29
an elderly person in the neighborhood who has dementia and
46:33
needs help and they want to do a wellness check.
46:37
But they know if they do a wellness check instead
46:39
of a social workers showing up, it's gonna be a
46:41
cop with a gun, and it's just gonna go from
46:45
bad to worse, like immediately, funk immediately. And then my
46:49
Like I've had family members go like, actually, we don't
46:51
really trust the police. We don't our hometown cop like
46:55
he was for a long time part of you know,
46:59
whether it was known or an official KKK, but like
47:03
he was a known racist and there was like ship
47:07
like that that happened and you feared the cops. Like
47:11
you just didn't funk with him. You didn't sunk with
47:12
this man, like what like so in the hometown that
47:15
I grew up in, Like to hear people go, actually,
47:18
this is not okay. I think it's a little not
47:21
to be like people are. But then on the other hand,
47:24
it is like, you know, people like my brothers like
47:26
you're a fag, and it's like, yikes, whoa, you're my
47:31
brother And I'm first of all, I'm a dike. I
47:35
don't know if I'm allowed to say that on the
47:37
I Heart radio, but then there on the other whatever.
47:41
But also like talking about cops, I feel like they're
47:43
so horny to use their guns and violence. My friend
47:46
had her car stolen. It was retrieved, they didn't take
47:49
it out of the system, and all of a sudden
47:53
she's driving, she's surrounded by cops, helicopters flying overhead. They
47:58
yank her out of the car and throw her on
48:00
the ground. She's being she was like traumatized a very
48:04
long time. That's it. And it's like it's like what, like,
48:10
I mean, there's nothing, there's I don't know, I don't know.
48:13
I feel like that story kind of goes nowhere. And
48:15
maybe the one about my hometown shitty racist cop which
48:17
and it's like, hello, there's literally a coup gangs. So
48:20
google l A s D Gangs. Google it l A
48:23
s D Gangs, shout out to castle. I'm not a doctor,
48:25
but yeah, but google l AS. They're Sheriff Department kinks
48:31
and I'm sure, it's probably across the country. But yeah,
48:33
I think if the whole move is to go past
48:36
demographics and look for more personality types, I think it's
48:39
a very soft pr move that the cops are doing
48:42
right now, to be like it's so different, Like we're
48:45
looking for just you know, sensitive people who are aware
48:48
of their biases and things like that. And again, I
48:51
think to everyone's point, it's it's it's going to be
48:54
a lot more than just putting Instagram ads up for
48:57
different like and hoping you get different kinds of people,
48:59
because there's still people who don't need the Instagram ads
49:02
to know that policing is a venue for them to
49:05
just be unrestricted and do whatever the funk they want
49:09
because Qualified Immunity. So yeah, we'll keep our eye on
49:14
that space. Hi, everyone, Welcome to Qualified Immunity, a new
49:17
podcast brought to you by Stitcher. All right, we'll we're
49:23
gonna pay some bills and we'll be right back and
49:25
we'll talk Aaliyah after this and we're back as hell. Yeah.
49:41
I had the poster as a child, the blue with
49:45
silver guardes. I like all of the songs. One in
49:50
a Million is maybe my favorite. The day she died.
49:53
I was getting ready for school. My mother broke the
49:56
news to me. A lot is devastating. Yeah she was.
50:01
She was, she was the princess. And then she was
50:03
gone so fast, like a fast shoot up the top
50:06
and then just out of nowhere. And this new news
50:09
is like horrifying. Yeah, she was twenty two. Once she
50:14
passed away, she was very young. And I you know,
50:17
as I said at the top of the show, I
50:18
remember I was my parents and grandparents are like, let's
50:21
go on a vacation to Anaheim. I'm like, we live
50:24
in l A. The funk are we doing the Anaheim?
50:27
But you know, people love their time share, so if
50:30
there's that's the one spot they could get in there,
50:33
like fuck if we canna stay here for free? And
50:35
plus we're not using this ship enough, so it's you
50:37
and your cousin and we're gonna go. I'm seventeen and
50:40
I'm like smoking weed and secret and ships. I'm like
50:43
the most like worst kind of teenager to take to
50:46
like a time sharing Anaheim coming from l A. And yeah,
50:49
Alia passed away and I was devastated. I was so
50:52
in love with Aliyah. I loved her music so much,
50:55
like I would I remember, like when Try Again came
50:58
out from the Romeo Die soundtrack, I didn't whenever they
51:02
played on the radio, you know, you know when you
51:04
had to like, hey, y'all, let me date myself. When
51:06
the songs would come on the radio, you had no
51:08
way of knowing what it was called. There was no
51:11
There was no shazam. The most you could do is
51:13
maybe navigate to a radio station's website and see if
51:16
they were uploading their current playlist. If you're yeah, if
51:20
you had that. So it was to the point where
51:22
I had to call Power one O six where if
51:24
I lives and singing the song back to somebody, be like, hey,
51:26
what was that song? I think it's Aliah and it's
51:28
like that was that job? Yeah, and they're like, oh,
51:32
let's try again. By Eliah downloaded the ship off Napster.
51:35
But you know, her her passing was really tragic. If
51:39
you remember, she was in a fatal plane accident in
51:42
the Bahamas. She was The things that we do know
51:45
at the time was that the pilot had alcohol and
51:48
cocaine in this system at the time, and then there
51:51
and then the plane was like overloaded with baggage, so
51:55
like the weight distribution was completely fucked up. It was
51:58
sort of like things were sort of on paper looking
52:00
like they could go from bad to worse really quick.
52:04
So there's a new book coming out by this music
52:07
journalist Kathy and Dolly, who claims that Aliyah may not
52:11
have actually wanted to get on the plane and was
52:15
given a sleeping pill in order to board the flight.
52:18
Now take this with many grains of salt, because this
52:21
is this is the this is from an eyewitness um
52:24
and I'll read this from this Daily Beast article or
52:27
notice from the route. This is just a description from
52:29
the book saying and this new s report in Abaco
52:31
Island's eyewitness named Kingsley Russell, who was thirteen years old
52:35
at the time and worked as the team's baggage carrier,
52:38
claimed that a team member gave Aliyah uphill that caused
52:41
the artist to go into a deep sleep. She was
52:44
then carried aboard the aircraft while she was unconscious. I
52:47
really linked up with Russell after a tip from one
52:50
of Aliyah's UK based super fans and the founder of
52:53
a very popular fan page. Okay, so here here, Okay,
52:57
So from a service value, You're like, this is a
53:01
lot of sketchy information coming from equal to sketchy sources.
53:05
But on the other hand, fans understood that Brittany was
53:08
in trouble way before anybody else did. Write. Fans of fandom,
53:12
especially the stands like, yes, it could be excessive, Yes
53:17
there is a negative impact inside to that, but they're
53:19
also like so deeply invested that they're often able in
53:22
the same way that like a lot of true crime
53:24
fans and starting to solve actual crimes just because they're
53:28
like literally obsessed and they spend all their extra time
53:30
doing it. So obviously, please still take this with a
53:32
grain of assault, but there is an element of it
53:35
that for me is not at all hard to believe,
53:37
specifically because I understand how much when you become the
53:41
celebrity that is like paying like sixty people, you have
53:44
a team of like sixty to keep you up and running,
53:47
and that you are their paycheck. They are not stopping.
53:52
We get on the plane. There, just take the sweetie, like, relax,
53:55
calm down, you're gonna be fine. Get on the plane.
53:57
Holder pick everything. We can't leave equipment go. We can't
54:01
even close the door. There's so much backages. Don't worry about.
54:03
Don't you want to see Damon Dash your boyfriend back.
54:05
She just got another video to record when we get
54:07
back home, Like there is no time one of my
54:10
looking at Mr Sinister. Oh it's Mr. Oh Wow. At
54:14
the final moment, let people right now, Mr, there's a Mr.
54:23
We got there talking about super sleuths and super fans. Well,
54:27
get you the answers you need. It was Mr S's
54:31
Mr Sinister, Thank you, Wow, fabulous cave. Mr Sinister's cave
54:36
all sort of textured and things like that. Okay, sorry
54:39
for that, serve that aggressive derailment, but you know what
54:43
necessary ever necessary? Thank you because I knew I said
54:45
it's gonna come to you, and when it does, let
54:47
us know. Um. Although at an interesting time we were
54:50
talking about the tragedy of Leah's life, but Joel, please continue.
54:57
Oh my gosh. Yeah, So all I'm saying is that
54:59
like adds up. Yeah, there's definitely like the element to
55:02
to sort of the trauma that she suffers at the
55:05
hands of R. Kelly uh and things like that, that
55:08
she didn't have a very simple life, like this wasn't
55:10
just somebody anyone who starts off famous, anyone who starts
55:13
off famous, young it's a very slippery road emotionally for
55:17
people because there's a lot of there's a lot of
55:20
things you're denied and a lot of things that don't
55:22
that go unaddressed as you grow up. And yeah, to that,
55:25
I see some thread, especially when you're saying, like, you
55:28
know how most people there's like it's saying they say,
55:30
don't funk with my money, don't funk up my money,
55:32
or you're sucking up my money, and in certain cultures
55:36
fucking up someone's money is uh. You will see some
55:40
very aggressive responses to fucking up someone's money. So you
55:43
can tell there is a grain of salt to like
55:45
where if some if a person's existence is your money
55:48
and that person who you're counting on is fucking up
55:52
just because of their their own sheer will or you know,
55:55
because they have agency, then you might step in because
55:57
you're like, oh, you're not about to suck up my
55:59
money because you're doing this or that. Now. I don't
56:01
know what could have been simmering at all that would
56:04
have created this kind of environment, but at the very least,
56:07
I feel like on some level, most people when that
56:10
plane crash were like what happened? Like why would you
56:12
get on a plane that's overloaded like that, it seems
56:16
like first up. But then is that because of the
56:18
negligence on behalf of the pilot or whatever? Who knows,
56:22
because he was clearly had things in the system. But
56:25
it's a very um very interesting point. And now the
56:28
author of the book has gone on to just sort
56:30
of say like they didn't expect all this talk to
56:33
come out around, but was also saying like they felt
56:36
compelled to include this in the story because it was
56:39
something that a lot of fans had been like talking
56:41
about and curious about. So that is in the book,
56:45
and the book is coming up soon because it's twenty years.
56:48
Along with that, there was some kind of bitter sweet
56:51
news is that Aliyah's music will finally be back on streaming.
56:55
But the thing is like, there's it's it's really contested
56:58
because all of her music came out on her uncle's
57:01
label called Black Drop. Other than Other like like larger Other,
57:04
like other labels are doing the distribution of it, but
57:06
they were done under that imprint. The uncle was like, hey,
57:09
it's coming out, like finally these other albums that you've
57:12
been saying, where the funk are these ala albums? They're
57:15
coming out now. But then her estate posted something saying
57:18
like they don't they don't like this at all, and
57:22
they feel there's clearly a conflict going on between her estate,
57:26
like the people that really like her mother who handles
57:28
her estate, and then her uncle, who is the one
57:30
who I guess technically has the access to all the
57:32
tapes of the albums. So there's a lot of figure
57:36
this out. It is so wild to me that this
57:39
happened so often to celebrity families, prettily celebrities who have
57:42
gone too soon, and there are states they are left
57:44
in the hands of like bickering family members. We see
57:47
a lot of Selina where like, you know, it's very
57:52
protective of the story and her legacy, which is absolutely
57:55
their right. But then like when it's like there's a
57:58
disconnect between how fans and act with this icon and
58:01
how she's constantly being portrayed. And I feel like the
58:04
same thing happened with the Lea, where it's like fans
58:05
like we would spend so much money on Aliyah, like
58:09
we're buying anniversary records and albums, we're getting like vocal sessions,
58:13
Like whatever you want to handle us, we will do
58:15
and you can use that money in whatever way you
58:17
like encourages and riches the family. But to have this
58:19
like sort of in fighting and then because it seems
58:23
to me that a lot of these families want to
58:25
share their loved one right there, like this is your legacy,
58:27
this is the way that we keep you going in
58:30
in the current world. And then because of this in fighting,
58:33
they could just never quite get it together to make
58:35
it work. And there's something incredibly tragic and sad. Of course,
58:39
you also have you know, the opposite end of that
58:41
with like Miles helped me that street artists from New York, Yes,
58:49
where his stuff is just anybody want to buy this here, great,
58:52
We'll just take the money. And now he's literally every
58:55
major brand has a bosky app version of someone because
58:59
if you really know his life story or a worldview,
59:02
it's not to be on a fucking cork sickle insulated
59:06
beer couzy cup. You're gonna be a famous artist, like
59:08
really dictate your ship in your will, like get it
59:11
early and get it now, how you want to be used,
59:13
do not after I die? Yeah, or like or like
59:17
a weird logo on a Brooklyn Nets Jersey because then
59:21
they did like here's the best yarders, Like, I don't
59:23
know if this is very very interesting person and like
59:29
self taught and self educated in many different ways. But yeah,
59:33
her estate put this thing. I was just saying, quote,
59:35
protecting Leah's legacy is and will always be our focus.
59:38
For twenty years, we have battled behind the scenes, enduring
59:40
shadowy tactics of deception with unauthorized projects targeted to tarnish.
59:45
We have always been confused as to why there's such
59:47
a tenacity and causing more pain alongside what we already
59:50
have to cope with for the rest of our lives. Now,
59:53
in this twenty year, this unscrupulous and endeavor to release
59:56
a lease music without any transparency or full accounting to
59:59
the date compels our hearts to express a word forgiveness,
1:00:03
which is wild. And they just go on to say
1:00:06
like they want to defend themselves. They wanted to make
1:00:08
sure that like we're honoring her energy and what her
1:00:11
actual intent was as a person. So you can only
1:00:13
imagine too, Like I'm sure there's definitely some there's obviously
1:00:16
a money component to and then from there, like you
1:00:19
have people who like within a family can't even just
1:00:22
set all of it aside to say, like, I'm not Aliyah,
1:00:25
You're not Aliyah, We're not Aliyah, but she is our family,
1:00:29
and as a family we should actually decide what to do,
1:00:31
because you can't just go off and say this is
1:00:32
what it needs to be or not be. But I
1:00:35
mean it's easier said than done, because this person is
1:00:37
no longer like in your face every day day to
1:00:40
day and it people. Money and greed changes people. It's
1:00:45
no longer human. She's no longer human to these other
1:00:48
other entities or like a spirit. She's exactly and it's
1:00:53
easy to disassociate, and it's easy to make excuses to
1:00:56
forgive yourself when you're doing a shitty thing, and you
1:01:00
can associate the human and the in the memory of
1:01:04
absolutely and even and even focused too, because I'm sure
1:01:07
her uncle's like the people want to hear her music.
1:01:09
I'm sure you can take that dimension and rationalize everything
1:01:12
by saying, like, we've been holding back Aliyah's music from
1:01:16
people for too long, and this is what this is
1:01:18
the this is the benevolence of this act is that
1:01:20
people will now get to interact with their art rather
1:01:22
than listen to weird yankee YouTube videos. That have the
1:01:25
songs out there some more gas lighting for you. Yeah,
1:01:29
but it's just like I don't know, um, but we
1:01:32
shall see it. There's apparently an album that has like
1:01:34
there's a there's a potentially a lot of unreleased music too,
1:01:38
but that is exciting. Yeah, and you know if it's
1:01:41
done otherwise, but out an album last week or two
1:01:44
weeks ago that it was all new material that he
1:01:46
had recorded. And apparently there's stuff with like Jojo and
1:01:50
like Timberaland and Magoo and like all these interests. You know,
1:01:55
I hope it's unrespectfully, but I'm a fan forever. We'll
1:02:00
ever thank you so much, speaking of everything, thank you,
1:02:04
thank you for the final hour, Mr Sinister pick. I
1:02:08
know it was so inappropriate, but it was like something
1:02:11
I connected the dots, yeah, because it's like one of
1:02:14
those things too in your mind. You're like, no, I can't,
1:02:16
I know my I know my memories functioning like somewhere
1:02:19
there is where people finds you and follow you and
1:02:23
experience your comedy And what's a tweet that you like?
1:02:26
Yeah for sure, Um, I'm all across social media platforms.
1:02:30
My name is ever E V E. R. Maynard, m
1:02:33
A I n A r D. You know, right now
1:02:36
with COVID and Delta variants, I'm doing live shows in
1:02:41
l A. A lot of them are outdoor. If you're
1:02:43
listening to this on Friday, I've got a really cool
1:02:46
show coming up Sunday the eighth, over Zoom, eight pm
1:02:49
Pacific Standard time. It's August eight at eight pm eight.
1:02:53
I'm talking to Animal Signs. It's all so I do
1:02:58
a thing where it's crowd work and it's riffing, but
1:03:00
it's based on connection and so it's not like I'm like, hey,
1:03:05
look at this piece of ship. You know it was
1:03:07
with your shirt. Hey, shitty couch. It's you know, it's
1:03:10
like storytelling. It's that. But like we've got um like
1:03:12
Anna Dressen from Saturday Night Live. She's a brilliant comic
1:03:16
and right, yeah, exactly. Um, she's gonna be there, Julia Lokan,
1:03:21
Lisa Schanou from you know, the Astrology podcast. You know
1:03:24
these gals, they're gonna be popping off. We're gonna be
1:03:28
talking to astrology. Because it's also like clearly I know
1:03:31
a little bit but not a lot, but it's also
1:03:33
like a lot. It's Leo season. So Ship's opening up.
1:03:36
It's a new moon, so it's exciting. The energy is
1:03:39
gonna be there. This was supposed to be I r
1:03:41
l Oh my god, I'm realizing something that's coming full
1:03:45
circle and I all will almost cry. It will tell
1:03:47
you guys after this, but like this p Persia was
1:03:49
supposed to happen March six. Holy fuck, I'm having a Mr.
1:03:55
Sinister moment in my personal life that I am not
1:03:57
ready to share with my I hearts. That's fine, But anyways,
1:04:02
y'all can you'll get tickets at ever mainer dot com.
1:04:05
Maybe I'll talk about this during the live show. Um yeah,
1:04:09
I just I like to hang out. I like to chill. Um,
1:04:12
I like to kick it with Mr said, I don't
1:04:15
know what. I don't know how to end this because
1:04:17
I'm literally happy. Let's oh yeah, oh but anyway, get
1:04:23
your tickets ever mainer dot com E V E R
1:04:25
M A N R D dot com. And if you're like, hey,
1:04:28
I really want to go, but I I don't. They're
1:04:31
like twelve to fifteen bucks for a generous ticket. But
1:04:34
these tickets are split up for like the I'm not
1:04:37
like goblin them up. The price like the money is
1:04:40
split and donated and there is it's more of a
1:04:44
meme tweet, but it's the cover of give a Mouse
1:04:47
a Cookie, so you have that in your mind. And
1:04:50
it says it's hex at h e x E D.
1:04:54
I don't know if this maybe, if I hope this
1:04:56
person is the real creator of this. If not, I'm
1:04:59
so sorry. But it says please instead of giving mouse cookie,
1:05:02
says please give a bit a break. I worked very hard,
1:05:06
I'm trying my best. I'm so tired all the goddamn time.
1:05:10
And and the quote is me after hearing about the
1:05:13
delta plus vary and I was like, yeah, tight a
1:05:19
break identifiable. I'm in it. It's very real, very real, Joel,
1:05:26
thank you so much for helping me host today. Your
1:05:29
infinite knowledge was put to the test today. Even though
1:05:32
ever was given us some interesting facts. We tried our best,
1:05:35
very close, very close. And hey, that gang if you
1:05:39
knew it was Mistress Sinister from the first act And
1:05:41
you're like, I know, kudos, kudos with Eminem's in them
1:05:46
to you? You want to comic con Cuz, yeah, exactly, Joel.
1:05:51
Where can people find you and follow you, listen to you,
1:05:52
experience you, and what's the tweet that you like, Yeah,
1:05:55
you guys know me. I'm Joel Why you can find
1:05:57
me all of the internet. Actual Monique, that's jail e
1:05:59
Elie Mo and i Q. You eat a tweet that
1:06:02
I am obsessed with right now. It's from we Are
1:06:04
Ivy Park. If you don't know what, that's Beyonce's clothing
1:06:07
line she partnered with Adidas. It just says hashtag Ivy
1:06:10
Park Rodeo. It's got Beyonce's hands with an Ivy Park
1:06:14
like Texas style belt buckle. I don't know what's about
1:06:17
to come out whenever she goes full Houston. It's sensational.
1:06:21
I'm ready, like, bring it, Bring God, Beyonce. I was
1:06:24
just complaining about how we weren't getting enough of her,
1:06:26
and look at how she blesses me this morning, Like queen,
1:06:29
I'm so excited. Yes, yes, yes, oh man, it's uh,
1:06:36
it's what's It's a wonderful thing. It's a wonderful thing.
1:06:39
Let's see a tweet that I like, just one tweet
1:06:41
and it was just funny because I don't know, if
1:06:43
you know, Barack Obama had to cancel his big birthday
1:06:47
bash on Martha's vineyard. I saw a thing on like
1:06:49
tmz THO was like, guests might be really mad because
1:06:53
they spent a lot of money renting houses on Martha's vineyard,
1:06:56
And I'm like, okay, that's not me. Yeah, exactly. If
1:07:00
you've got Martha's vend your money and you're going to
1:07:01
Barack Obama's birthday, I'm sorry. You're fine, Yeah, you're fine.
1:07:05
You think they're all not hanging out anyways, right right
1:07:09
exactly exactly. Oh man, that's anyway. The news that eleven.
1:07:14
We'll see what happens there. But this is from armand
1:07:17
Domallevski at armand Doma tweeted, as a child, I assumed
1:07:22
Martha's Vineyard was owned by Martha Stewart to sense, and
1:07:29
it would be her danyard because she's Martha Sucking Steward exactly.
1:07:33
I'm just pissed that she would to to prison for
1:07:35
fraud and it's like nobody else did anyways. It's fine,
1:07:42
it is what it is. Well. You can find me
1:07:44
at Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram. Also the
1:07:46
other podcast for twenty Day Fiance check that out with
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me and Sophia Alexandra Um. You can find us at
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1:07:55
We have a Facebook fan page and a website dailies
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that guys dot com where we post our you know,
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our episode and our footnotes. But not there it is
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no thank you, thank you, thank you. I heard it
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from the back. And let's see. Along with the song
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that we are going to wrap our wrap out on,
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we're gonna ride out on. This is just another great
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viv piece from an artist called Petty f e D.
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And it's called Balcony t r A p p E
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t O b A l c O n Y and
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it's sort of like a little bit of Latin trap beat.
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Just to get your weekend going, you know, just because
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maybe you're in your cave, maybe you're gonna play safe
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from some outdoor chilling or whatever, but maybe maybe listen
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to this and get your hips moving. You know who
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You guys should also check out if you're just looking
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to vibe. There's an UK artist called Terza t I
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r z a h kind of low key. There's a
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song Gladly that I've just been chilling with. Kind of
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low key electronic music, but just great vibes to have
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on in the background. I don't know if you're looking
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for new vibes, but yeah, um, and you can find
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them the footnotes. We'll be back later on to tell
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you what's trending. Oh and also obviously daily's like guys
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products an I heart radio. You know what my hearts,
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So we'll see you there. Check back later, we'll tell
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you what's trending and until they happen. Great weekend, be
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some blessings by Y