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Speaker 1
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, nine, Episode
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one of Guys production of I Heart Radio. This is
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a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's
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shared consciousness. Uh. It is Monday, July. My name is
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Jack O'Brien a k. Apple Jack, which is my actual
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nickname for a week of basketball camp when I was
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a kid due to a hand twitch I had while
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holding an apple that caused me to just launch the
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apple across the cafeteria table into my coach's bowl of
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cereal milk. And he called me apple Jack derisively for
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the rest of the best. But it would have been
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it would have been perfect, but he was, Yeah, but
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love love when it wasn't it wasn't that. Wasn't that
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the time when a coach would give you a toxic
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nickname based on something that's different about you? Yeah? Yeah,
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and that was that. Wasn't that bad? I mean for
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all the things, but I've always had trouble with my hands.
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I've never know what to do with my hands, and
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sometimes they'll just freak out and throw an apple across
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the room. Uh. And I'm thrilled to be joined as
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always by my co host, Mr Miles Gras yes, going
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straight from the eight one eight to the eight oh
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eight coming soon to Ahah. Who is your boy from
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this hand? Fernando Valley, Mr Hideo NoHo, Yes, you know that, gang.
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I'm I'm gonna be making my way to a while,
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you know, so recommendations hit me up, you know, because
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I'm trying to I'm trying to take advantage of some
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of some free times from working remote. But yes, today
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O NoHo in the building. Thank you for having me,
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and I hope to see you launched something involuntarily at
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some point. I'm jack, I really did. I've gotten better
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control of my hands, but they'll still freak out every
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once in a while. Wait, we have like alien limb syndrome. Yeah,
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a little bit, like some momentary alien limb syndrome. It
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came up because my three year olds having a lot
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of sleep trouble and he crawled into bed with my
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wife last night and was hitting her and punching her.
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And she was like, do you ever have like weird
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like twitches and stuff? And I was like, huh, how
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that you mentioned it? I don't know, I don't think
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so anything. Yeah, that's crazy. Well, Miles, we are thrilled
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to be joined in our third seat by the very
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talented actress, writer, podcaster, educator Karama don't Quo. Thank you,
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thank you, thank you for having me. Uh Mr apple
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Jack and Miles. I do have a question about that
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apple story though. Was it a red apple or a
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green apple? Because apple, Oh, that's the worst one. I
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feel like that's worse. I'd rather have a green apple
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land in my cereal milk than a red apple. Hold on,
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that's very specific. Why is that? I have no idea.
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I'm just just like no, no, my hum. And now
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I'm sort of like, damn, am I not thinking critically
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enough about some of the things he's saying. I might
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be thinking too critically about that story. It feels like
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a Tim Robinson sketch. I didn't focus on the like
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limb aspect of it. I'm like, what color was the apple? Yeah?
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Like I just had it right here, like next, right ahead,
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and then it just went like that, just fluid. So
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it wasn't I thought you wound up, you launched it.
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Oh so was he just across the table from you? Yeah,
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he was just he was like down the table a
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few people man Salt Bay situation, but like with an
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it was a. It was a spastic salt bas situation
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or like you one of those card magicians and you're
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throwing a car Yeah, exactly right, right right, okay, now
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you see me. I've ruined your cereal milk with this
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half bitten apple Karama. What is good? What's new with you?
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What's good? What's new? I'm about to move back to
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the eight one eight? What what? Yeah? Next week I'm
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moving to Van Eyes. Excited about that. And then I
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just wrapped on season one of I Carly were is
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working in the writer's room the reboot, our revival, I
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think it's the technical term, but you know, people just
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be thrown out, rewords all over the place. And I
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have an episode that I got to write and it
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comes out in a couple of weeks. So that's what's new. Amazing,
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so dope, intersecting with so much. I Carly talent recently,
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and eventually we'll get Lacy back on here. But I'm
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over the weekend Ramsey. Oh yeah, very lovely person. And
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I was just like, man, so it seems like the
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best show to be working on. Yeah, No, I love Lacey,
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love Francesca got I was like a huge Francesca stand
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before the show, and like, when I got the list
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of people who remember those videos, I like had a
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heart attack and I texted all my friends that was like,
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my Rancy is gonna be working in the room, and
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I like had to be normal for six months working
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How do you do as not normal came in a
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print out you wanted to sign from? Hi was my
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first day. Blessedly we were working remote right right right,
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So I did not. I would have. I would have like, Hi,
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this is the video that you did like six years ago,
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will you sign summon? No. I mean just generally, I
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didn't do a great job being normal, not just Francesca wise.
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The first day of work, we were introducing ourselves and
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like I said that I thought that Emotion by Carly
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ray Jepson was one of the best albums of all time,
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and I thought it was criminally underrated. And I was like,
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this is not a normal way to introduce yourself. Just
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say your name and stop talking. Right. You just came
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with a hot take right out of the gate. I
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will will. Somebody asked me, what has Carly ray Jepson
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been up to since? Called me maybe, which was a
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mistake on their part. Yeah, very early on in this
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show and the CRJ goons came for me. Shout out
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to y'all because you did convert me, because so many
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people were like, put that out of your mind, what
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you think you may know, and just put this album
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on and listen to it. And I'm like, this ship
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is just really good. This is really good music. It's
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really good. It's really really good. I have a for
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my birthday. For my thirtieth birthday, the room got me
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a Carly ray Jepson quilt and it's the most beautiful
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thing I've ever seen, and I carry it around with
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me when I travel places, like I'm Linus from the Nuts.
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Don't tell anybody that, oh my god, you know, because
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you're just letting them know. So many of those hooks,
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I were like, I really really really like you, like
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you can. They're easy to sing and like right away
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with me. There's so many earworms in that album. That's
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what I'm saying, you know what, And you know, maybe
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these days l A Hallucinations it is my song. I
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Oh my gosh, yes, just the whole album, That whole
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album is good. I'm so glad I found my people.
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I mean, I'm a new I'm just I'm c RJ curious,
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you know what I mean, opening my I'm expanding my horizons.
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And I realized, oh, why did I have that all?
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Why did I have the wrong ideas about this? I
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think so many fandoms are really toxic and that they
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think if you haven't been there since day one, you
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don't you don't have as much legitimacy as people who
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have been there since day one. And I don't think
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that that's true. I think that if you are gathering
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enjoyment from whatever the fandom is, even if it is
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your first day, when it's somebody else's ten thousand day,
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then good for you, and you don't to be like
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I know every song, I know every book. I know
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that she was third place on Canadian Idol. I know
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that she started Frenchie in Greece Live. I know that
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she played Dorothy in The Whiz in high school, which
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is I have feelings about that. Well, let's let's want
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to have the positive. And you know, high school is
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as a strange time, but yeah, for sure, gatekeeping is
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just so exhausting because like I've I myself have been
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like that, like when I was in college and stuff,
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and you know, one college in the odds like that
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was peak, Like check on my fucking DVDs, check on
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my albums that I have, and you're you're coming at
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people from like, oh you don't know Porti's heads, dummy.
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What then you took? And then I realized that's just
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me because all I had for my personality or my
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identity was to say I knew a lot about this
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other ship, rather than being more secure and who I
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just was fundamentally as a human being outside of my interest.
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And then you have to realize, oh, yeah, this, let's
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just just welcome. Everybody, especially the newcomers, can experience it
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and enjoy it in a way that you can't. So
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let them. Let them have that. That's why actually you
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want to be And again shout out to all the
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night young who are not not like being shitty about
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my first early Carly rage Jason takes, but we're very
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much like, Hey, I get it, but you should really
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you really owe it yourself. You seem to like music.
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You should listen to it. You'll enjoy it, and I did,
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and even the subsequent albums. But I think you know,
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as it relates to when like bringing somebody in, there's
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no better feeling. Actually, when you put somebody onto something
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and you watch them light up be like this is
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so good, You're like, yes, yeah, Well that's why those
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two guys, those brothers on like YouTube, who do them
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like listening to songs for the first time. I think
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that that's why they're so popular, because it's like we
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love these songs that we get to watch them fall
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in love with these songs. Like when they heard that
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drum break on in the air tonight, they were like,
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what yo, what And I'm like, yeah, right exactly. But
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for us, all of our like you know, dopamine receptors
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have burned out in terms of the album, so it
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happens you're like I just need this to live, but
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I enjoy seeing others get life. All Right, Karamo, We're
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gonna get to know you a little bit better in
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a moment. First, we are gonna tell our listeners a
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few of the things we're talking about today. We're gonna
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check in with that Iceland experiment with the four day
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work week, because they just you know, as Americans, we
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know a four day work week is a joke. For
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anything less than a six day work week is for
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lazies and so we just want to check in and
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see how that turned out. We're gonna talk about Q
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and On, what the latest manifestation of Q and On
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looks like. We'll look at streaming ratings and Barry Diller
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this article where an interview with NPR where Barry Diller
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was like, the film industry is dead and looks in
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the picture exactly like that old man mask that people
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used to rob banks. Have you seen that those old
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man masks? What are the old Oh? They have they
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been in movies? Yes? Ye, look at look at the
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picture of Barry Diller in this story, like he looks
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and that is what the old man mask looks like.
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It's like a just standard archetypical old man head. Yeah,
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where it's like like bulbous like nose, just like the
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salamander lips. Yeah. I'm pretty sure they just interviewed somebody
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in one of those masks and thought it was very Dellers,
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but they interviewed a bank robber who just sunglass. We
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will talk about some streaming numbers, all of that plenty more,
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But first, Karama, we like to ask our guests, what
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is something from your search history. I searched our Neanderthal's
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human because I wasn't a hundred on that because I
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know that some people have Neanderthal DNA, but we talked
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about Neanderthal's like they're different from people and they like
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kind of ore but also kind of aren't. So I
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was like, what's the deal there? What? Yeah? Yeah, but
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wasn't there a recent discovery that Neanderthals have were like
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creating art? I think so. I think, so that sounds right,
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but they are human but not the same way we are.
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So we kind of absorbed them and then replaced them.
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But like if we were able to reproduce with them,
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I feel like that to me feels human. I mean,
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I'm not going to be able to like reproduce with
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a snake and have like a snake person, right wife, Okay,
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like Kevin James on seven Old Prospector, you never slept
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it with a snake before? Yeah, so you Yeah, I
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feel like if you can procreate, it's something's matching up.
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But I guess that. Yeah. So some people you're saying,
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do like is that is that just to take a
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shot at somebody like you got Neanderthal DNA or yeah
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on your twenty three and me they'll be like, you
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have one percent Neanderthal DNA, or you have more Neanderthal
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DNA than is average for humans. I have not done
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twenty three and me, I'm not trying to sell my
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spit to anybody, not sell it pay for I'll sell
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my spit, but of course I'm not addit for people
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who who are into that. Yeah, sure, hit me up
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if you are interested in paying me for spit. Don't
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actually do that, please you do that? Reddit are slash
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spit bst by selling trade. Yeah. There, So there's a
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new study out or a new discovery in a Neanderthal
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camp where there's like some kind of little sculpture looking thing.
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They seem to have a very low threshold for what
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is considered art. But it's still so this is surprising,
13:34
scathing attacks on well that this is surprised me that
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it's like, was were Neanderthals making art? And then it
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just looks kind of like a whittled down I don't
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know something or other, but Neanderthals. I think I think
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one thing that we overlook a lot when we think
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about Neanderthals is that the reason that we survived and
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they didn't is that we were the crueler version like yeah,
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we yeah, we killed them off, like we you know,
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used our big gas brands to kill them off, and
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like they were potentially more peaceful and less likely to
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like scheme and come up and like you know, have
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zero some outcomes with with regards to resources, and so
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Homo sapiens killed them off. Like that's one of the
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main theories, one of the prevailing theories these days. But
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when we think Neanderthals were thinking like big, mean, dumb,
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like violent, and it's like, you know, they were actually
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more peaceful than love that legacy. We're here because we
14:45
kill the weaker ones anyway, So yeah, that's where my
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brain was going last night. I was like, what aren't Andrews.
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I don't know, but yes, and they were like people
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chill version, Yeah exactly, And yeah, just like Jack, you
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just start a podcast, You're just you're you're doing just
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critiquing Neanderthal art, critique of just for this new excavated
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kings scallop shell from Cueva and Tons Spain from the Neanderthals,
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I'm look a decorative shell. This just looks like a
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broken fucking shell. Folks that like, as somebody I'm coming
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from a place of somebody who has to look at
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five year old and three year old art and come
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up with like value, be like wow, that's really great,
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and like this would be one of the ones that
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I would be like, let's move past that one and
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like move on to the next piece of art that
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you created, because this just looks like some like it
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could have happened accidentally. Wait, do you have to like
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struggle to come up with nice things to say about
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your kids art? No? I just stopped trying a long
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time ago. I was getting excited art. I'm like, look
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at you, you know I do. I'm like, you look
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at it, doting split like I I start massaging your
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temples when you see you're like Jesus, I love. I'm like, Jack,
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are you a bad dad? Are you like? Are you No? No,
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I have kids with fund up art skills. Though we
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just discovered my three year old as a lefty like
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me and my wife's exciting. How do wait, how do
16:28
you what's the point where you figure out like what
16:30
is it what they eat with? Or well my mom
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my mom was like, oh, I could have told you
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that like a year and a half ago, but it's
16:36
what they draw with what they eat with. But also
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like what when he's like sleeping, what thumb he sucks
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and stuff like that, what he's using to do those
16:45
sorts of things. You suck the dominant thumb or the
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non dominant thumb, So it's weird. I sucked my left thumb,
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but my wife No, me and my wife split my
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left thumb. You suck the You suck the dominant thumb.
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And that's actually how they know that handedness is something
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that's not socially proscribed and is actually something that like
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starts in utero because left handed babies will suck their
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left thumb in utero. Wow. Okay, yeah, so shout out
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to learn learning lefties, either of you guys lefties? Nope,
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my mom is nice. I just drew always being like, hey,
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you gotta sit on this side of the table because
17:28
my nice hand is gonna keep jab We're gonna keep
17:30
bumping elbows. That's like the one thing that's my one,
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you know, prevailing spirit experience with a left handed person.
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What is something you think is overrated? Something I think
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over is overrated? Its fireworks. It's been a week plus
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since the fourth of July, and I'm still traumatized. Like
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I just hate fireworks. It don't get it, and like
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I think that there's value in ephemeral forms of entertainment,
17:56
Like it's not that I'm like, oh, fireworks disappear, what's
17:58
the point. And then you take pictures of the I mean,
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nobody looks at them like very neanderthal take on our
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modern fire Where does it go? I just think that
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they're scary and loud and not worth the like small
18:16
ounce of like enjoyment. I think there are cooler things
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that we probably have the technology, like the things that
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they do with drones in the sky, and I feel
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like it's probably better for the environment. Yeah, and doesn't
18:28
catch things on fire. Like if you want to look
18:30
at pretty lights in the sky, there are ways to
18:31
do it that aren't terrifying. It's called mushrooms, y'all. You
18:35
don't even have fireworks. Just wave your hand in front
18:37
of your face. It's a party. But I think I
18:40
don't like little ships setting off fucking bang bangs in
18:44
my neighborhood like the eighties and ship because I have
18:47
there's some badasses where I live, apparently because it sounded
18:51
like people were setting off dynamite and I'm like, that's
18:54
not even a firework, you know what I mean. Like
18:56
sometimes stuff go up and people do their little tiny
18:59
little sky bang rangs or whatever they're called. But when
19:03
people just set off like explosives, like it's so bad
19:06
for like my pets and stuff. Like I came home
19:08
early on the fourth of July and I just blasted
19:10
the gap band throughout my house because I'm like, Charlie
19:13
Wilson's voice can neutralize the sounds of explosions for my pets,
19:17
and that's all I had to do. But I do
19:20
love a good like professional fireworks show. I think that
19:24
could be just because in Japan they're like huge, and
19:26
I grew up every summer always seeing like massive fireworks displays.
19:30
But at the local like sparklers are cool, you know
19:33
what I mean, Those little snake things are cool. Yeah,
19:36
I love like Harry Kane. When I go to like Disneyland,
19:40
I'm like, yeah, be pretty. But also they're doing that
19:43
every night. I feel so bad for the people of Anaheim. Yeah,
19:48
that's a good point. I wonder if they have like
19:50
a clear zone where like within this range, like people
19:55
shouldn't like have residences because yeah, that was that would
20:00
be a lot of I guess, sounds of joy, but
20:03
it would also just be a lot of a lot
20:06
of screaming, a lot of kids crying, a lot of fireworks.
20:11
Anyone shares a wall though with like yeah, yeah, just
20:20
in the background scares when you're like trying to make
20:24
mac and cheese. How did we how did we end
20:27
up sharing a wall with it? It's a small world ride, Yeah,
20:32
Like I I feel like there's something very basic in
20:38
humans that like they needed to get out these fireworks
20:42
man this year, like we didn't. We didn't have it
20:44
last year, and there was just there's just something that yeah,
20:49
that's true. We we did have them like for locals,
20:52
but there wasn't like a massive show and I have
20:58
I was saying on the show is something like a
21:00
bowl of rice crispies for three straight hours of mine
21:02
in my neighborhood, just like that much popping and popping
21:06
and popping like multiple every second for like three hours straight.
21:13
It was wild. But I mean, yeah, you always hear
21:16
about these horrible accidents. There's always like the there's an
21:21
NHL dully who got hit with one, And yeah, I
21:24
didn't even know that was possible. I think you apparently
21:28
like he was like it was like a mortar tube
21:30
type thing, and I think it hit him in a
21:32
chest or something. Yeah. Yeah, it's that's like like, I'm look,
21:37
I was a little badass pyromaniac, but there I've seen enough.
21:41
I've had enough near terrible accidents to be like, there's
21:45
certain things like if you're not a professional pyrotechnician, leave
21:49
it alone for your own safe yeah, for sure, and
21:53
even professionals screw up. I mean, do you guys remember
21:55
the Maybe you don't because I don't think either of
21:58
you have lived in Rhode Island, but the station fire
22:01
in Rhode Island, there was this band, I can't remember
22:04
what they were called. It was like White something, Oh yeah, pyrotechnics,
22:08
and a bunch of people died because they were all
22:11
like struggling to get out the club after the pyrotechnics
22:15
went off in a wrong and unsafe way, And I'm
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just like, not worth it for me. Yeah, great, White,
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thank you. Yeah, yeah, I would agree, But I also
22:25
feel like it's one of those things that will just
22:27
never never get past for some reason, because oh no,
22:31
for sure, but I think they're overrated. Every now and then, sure,
22:35
do we need the multiple times a year and multiple
22:38
holidays with multiple places doing them. I don't know, not
22:42
for me, Yeah, it's not. It's not good for people
22:44
who have dogs, it's not good for war veterans, it's
22:47
not good for all sorts of people like sleep. No
22:51
one wants to suddenly hear like just a huge boom
22:55
out their window. Like it's just not especially not one again,
22:58
You're being like, I'm going to a fireworks display, therefore
23:01
I will be looking at the source of the sounds.
23:04
I'm just trying to sleep and watch the challenge on
23:07
Paramount Plus and have things going off in your head
23:09
disrupting your viewing time. Shout out to Paramount plus does
23:14
allow you to envision what it would be like if
23:16
there was a massive war in your town, because it's
23:20
just like the sound the soundtrack sounds very similar. I
23:24
think there's some visualization exercises I don't need to do.
23:29
What is something you think is underrated? Crumb, I'm gonna
23:33
say it's a two way tie between therapy and rabbits.
23:38
I mentioned to you earlier off Mike that I just
23:42
found out that I'm allergic to rabbits and that like
23:44
made me so sad, like it was an indescribable loss
23:48
that I was like, Wow, I don't know what I'm
23:50
going to hold a rabbit next, and if it will
23:52
be a joy to me, because every time I see
23:54
a rabbit, instantly I'm happier, instantly happier. I we have
23:59
wild rabbits out here in the Cachella Valley. So sometimes
24:01
I'll just be like chilling in my room and I
24:03
looked out the window and there's a rabbit and I'm
24:06
just like, best day ever, and I just go funny
24:09
and then I'm happy. I agree. There's something I don't
24:12
know if it's because like from childhood, like rabbits have
24:14
always we've never seen them as being like vicious animals
24:17
unless you watch or that The Life of Brian or
24:20
was it The Holy Grail? Yeah, Holy Grail, And that
24:23
was I think the only time I can really think
24:25
of me seeing a round and being like like when
24:28
I was younger, and every other time they're like whimsical.
24:31
And when we did a live show out in Minneapolis,
24:34
like in the beginning of I didn't know that there
24:37
was just bunnies everywhere, and so like we were in
24:40
the snow and like in the alleys, they're just hippieby
24:43
hoppiting around, and I was like, I couldn't contain my
24:47
sort of child like joy. I'm like, hey, man, I
24:50
think there's rabbits on the loose. And Something's like no, no,
24:52
this is this is what's this is part of that
24:55
we have instead of rats. And I'm like, oh, buddy,
24:58
rats cool. Yeah yeah, and shout out to therapy too.
25:03
Good things you didn't trend out you were allergic to therapy.
25:06
I guess the two things no, no, no, skip therapy
25:10
for one week and I was just a rack. I
25:12
was like, no, I need it. I need to talk
25:13
to somebody. I can't hold everything. It's yeah, it's again.
25:17
I tell I'm such a I preached the gospel of
25:20
therapy as much as I can to friends and family,
25:22
because honestly, I'm someone who has thought themselves very emotionally intelligent.
25:28
And I've spent a lot of time reading a lot
25:29
of psychology books and self help books, but those truly
25:33
only get you to a certain point, like without someone
25:36
who is trained to help you navigate sort of your
25:38
own patterns and proclivities and things like that, you won't
25:41
arrive at a place to have that true level of
25:44
self awareness where you can begin to see like, oh,
25:47
when when I'm stressed and these kinds of things happen,
25:49
I typically go down this path where now you can
25:51
start seeing things and sort of really understanding yourself rather
25:55
than being caught in a loop of being like why
25:57
am I stressed out? Or like beating yourself up for
25:59
being being angsty or depressed or whatever, and dually understanding
26:03
yourself so you can then be like how you like? Really,
26:06
I think the biggest thing for me being in therapy
26:09
has been you know, you'll have a friend who like
26:11
might be telling you something and and tell you about
26:14
what they're going through and they're kind of being they're
26:15
like beating themselves up, and you're like, oh, come on,
26:17
don't do that. And then you're able to be like
26:19
because of this, this, this and this, but you're unable
26:22
to do that for yourself, you know what I mean? Like,
26:24
you'll have the exact same monologue or inner monologue that
26:28
is almost word for word with someone who isn't you said,
26:31
and you were able to have the wherewithal to soothe them,
26:33
make them understand what's going on and it's not bad.
26:36
But with therapy, Like I'm able to actually walk myself
26:40
through that as I would for someone else. And I
26:42
think that's really that's like when you start feeling the
26:45
good vibe. So shout out to Dr Schamitra Chames, you
26:48
know my therapists. All right, let's take a quick break
26:52
and we'll be right back. And we're back, and speaking
27:07
of self care, Iceland and Japan just completed some lengthy
27:13
trials to understand what the effects of a four day
27:18
work week would be on companies, on on employees. And
27:25
I'm assuming I didn't look at the results. I'm assuming
27:27
it's just like the society fell apart. Yeah right, Yeah,
27:33
four days a week. What are you gonna do with that?
27:35
What do you do? Bankrupt your business because your drone
27:38
workers or sucking around enjoying their families. Yeah, I mean
27:43
like a lot of countries have experimented with this, and yeah,
27:46
Japan is like trying to propose it officially as of Spain,
27:49
Like they're really trying to have lengthy trials to you know,
27:52
fundamentally shift how we understand work um and also just
27:57
understanding like what its effects are. So in Iceland they
28:00
had one of the like probably at this point. The
28:02
most comprehensive trial experiment in the world ran from twenty
28:07
to across different industries to truly understand, like, what what
28:12
happens if we take people from going five days a
28:15
week to four days a week and same hours a day,
28:18
eight hour day, but just four of them now or
28:20
maybe thirty six hour work week, but give them three
28:24
days where they're not working and don't and don't reduce
28:27
their pay. Here we go. Quote workers reported experiencing better
28:32
health and less stress and burnout, and they had more
28:34
time to spend with their families or on leisure activities.
28:37
Productivity and service provision either remained at similar levels or
28:42
improved in the majority of workplaces. Huh. So that's like, yeah,
28:48
it's wonderful to hear. The thing I want to say
28:50
to all of our American listeners is the big difference
28:54
is that in Scandinavia, the trade unions are stronger than
28:58
fucking Bruce and Er when he's piste off. They are
29:02
they don't funk around, and they are able to actually,
29:05
you know, use their collective might to work for better
29:09
outcomes for labors. And this is the other thing is
29:12
we also have a very you know, very capitalistically worshiping society.
29:18
And on top of that, we have you know, big
29:20
business always at war with organized labor, and Supreme Court
29:24
that doesn't care about anything. So we have a few
29:28
things that we'd have to possibly overcome. Plus, the government
29:31
invested massively in this program because, as they see it,
29:34
this is about fundamentally improving the lives of all of
29:38
their citizens. What a concept. That's not the that's not
29:40
the government's job. Come on out here, yea. In America,
29:45
instead of instead of having you know, protecting the rights
29:49
of the laborers, we create somebody who is the richest
29:53
man on earth and becomes a famous celebrity by taking
29:58
advantage of the fact that America doesn't have good representation
30:01
for their workers and that he can make them not
30:04
be able to go to the bathroom when they want to.
30:07
Are you talking about CEO Entrepreneur Report in nineteen sixty four,
30:11
Jeffrey Bezos. Yeah, we so. Our way. Our way is
30:15
that we just create celebrities and that and we root
30:18
for them for some reason. Instead of you know, rooting
30:22
for working for better lives for ourselves, we create people
30:26
who can go to space because they're so rich. Yeah,
30:30
when it should be like Game of Thrones, like Cercy
30:32
with the haircut, ringing the shame bell, like marching billionaires
30:36
through the street, be like, let's go Jeff shame people
30:38
like boll Yeah, you know that would be very cathartic.
30:42
And then we distribute all of this, we distribute all
30:44
his wealth. But it's kind of like what we were
30:46
talking about with the with the economists on last week's
30:51
kind of format breaking episode. There's a rapit outside my window.
30:54
I just needed I'm so wided it just it hopped
30:58
away as soon as I pointed out here for a
31:01
brief not a long time. Sorry, continue, But it's it
31:04
feels like it's such a cellular thing, like the just
31:07
it's so down to the American psyche and the fact
31:11
that America loves an individual and hates a collective that
31:16
like they they will do something as stupid as like
31:20
let somebody become the richest person in the history of
31:23
the planet and start thinking about how they're going to
31:26
get them and their family off the planet Earth once
31:29
they ruin it, and we'll root for that and read
31:32
headlines about that and read news about that, and just
31:35
won't won't even let people unionize, like who worked for
31:39
that person. Yeah, it's it's I don't know what else
31:44
what the battle is gonna look like in the United States,
31:46
But I mean, I think this is what this does.
31:50
And like the sort of the foothold that a lot
31:53
of countries are finding themselves gaining or at least people
31:56
who are interested in these four our work weeks, is
31:59
that it's really helping too just change the narrative around
32:02
what it means to like work and rather than it
32:06
feeling like a natural part of life, because truly we're not.
32:10
You know this, We're not the way society set up.
32:13
It's everything feels completely unnatural, like it's purely to survive
32:17
is why people are working. And I think by having
32:20
like these experiments to sort of change around what it
32:23
means like depending on certain types of industries and things
32:25
like that, it's clear that if we work less without
32:29
having wages cut, we're happier. But I think in this
32:32
country too, you see, employers clearly don't want that to
32:35
gain too much traction because we have so much back
32:38
to normal messaging that we're being bombarded with constantly, and
32:43
it completely ignores the fact that all of these people
32:46
passed away, that most of us know someone who has
32:49
passed away, that most of us, we're dealing with our
32:53
own ship from everything that's happened in the pandemic. So
32:55
to start like shoveling this like back to normal stuff
32:59
is part parcel to also be like, we can't let
33:01
these people get in any ideas on how to shift things,
33:04
because the longer they're not than the slog or the
33:07
grind of like this forty or fifty hour eighty hour
33:10
work week, you know, then they're gonna then ideas begin
33:14
to sprout, and you know, movements can tend to gain momentum.
33:17
So it's it's it's a tough role. Well, and the
33:20
thing about the back to normal messaging is that a
33:23
lot of companies prior to COVID did not offer work
33:28
from home options for people with disabilities. They just didn't.
33:32
They were like, Oh, it's too hard, we can't do it,
33:34
and then in a week switch to it when it
33:37
was like, oh, we don't want to die, we don't
33:39
want to have bad things happen to us. And this
33:41
back to normal thing is making it so that people
33:45
who were finally able to work from home and do
33:48
remote work because of their disabilities, when they hadn't been
33:51
able to do that before, are kind of shipped out
33:54
of luck. And it's just really concerning to see that
34:00
we're not thinking of things holistically. We're not looking at
34:03
the big picture, how has this been better for people?
34:06
And there are obviously some industries where it is much
34:09
harder to work from home. Like I was just working
34:12
on a TV show. It's not easy to do a
34:14
TV show when everybody's working from home. Is it possible? Absolutely,
34:18
except with the actors. That's the part where it gets
34:20
kind of tricky. But I mean they made that show
34:22
on NBC Connecting where all the actors were in their houses,
34:26
So I mean there's a lot that can be done.
34:28
And that was specifically about COVID and about like connecting
34:31
with people through computer screens and all of that. So
34:33
that was a special situation. But I think that back
34:37
to normal is really shortsighted, and I think looking more
34:43
it is violent. Yeah, absolutely, looking more at these four
34:46
day work week options, Shoot, I'm down for a three
34:49
day work week. I just feel like we define ourselves
34:52
too much by work. So like a couple of years ago,
34:54
I stopped asking people what they do, like, oh, what
34:58
is your job? When I meet them because it's like, hmm,
35:00
that doesn't matter. And like half of my friends, I
35:02
don't understand or know what their jobs are, but I
35:04
know who they are. It's more like, what are you into?
35:08
That's what I like. Guys like what you into? My question?
35:12
They're like, Oh, I like to play, you know, banjo
35:15
or whatever and do and serve and stuff. I'm like, Okay,
35:18
that's see. I I learned I can get more of
35:20
an idea than that. And being like I work for
35:22
HR at best Buy. Yeah, just the idea that this
35:28
is like almost like it's not it's not a thing
35:31
where you subtract hours from people's work week and you
35:35
subtract the hours of productivity. It's it's more of a
35:40
thing where you subtract hours but then productivity either stays
35:43
the same or goes up because they are just happier
35:49
and like better versions of themselves and more rested, and
35:53
there's just overall like a higher morale. Like that is
35:59
not it's a counterintuitive. It's it's almost like you're adding
36:03
by subtracting. And I'm just hoping that the business world
36:08
can kind of get their mind around that, because it
36:10
does it seems like just overall better for health, better
36:15
for probably everything. If you're you have more well arrested,
36:23
happier employees. I mean, do you go to any country
36:25
where there's some semblance of real you know, robust social
36:29
safety nets or people's knees are provided, the vibe is
36:32
so different, Like when you go to like that. I
36:35
remember you go to like the first time went to
36:37
Scame the Navy. I was like, the happy are frolicking
36:42
in a parkership then is this and almost like at
36:47
first I had to realize, I'm like, oh man, I'm
36:49
like this fucked up, burnt out city rat from the US,
36:52
and I'm looking at like a culture where people at
36:56
the very least note well, if I want to get
36:57
an education, that's that's an option for me. If I
37:00
need medical care, that's an option for me. If I
37:02
need to take care of my children or an ailing
37:05
loved one, that's an option for me. And when you
37:08
see those things people like when they're unburdened with those
37:11
things or there's not even part of their like concept
37:14
of what life is, it makes for very just jovial people,
37:19
very kind people, and like even when you go to
37:22
you know, places where seemingly in the U S you're like, well,
37:25
fast food or retail or whatever, like it's it's just
37:28
a it's a hard job to do when it's underpaid,
37:30
and you go to places where people are paid like
37:32
an actual living wage. It's like they were smiling a ship.
37:36
Yeah they said they apologize because they didn't put the
37:39
extra onions on that. I don't know what to say,
37:43
but yeah, this is again. It's just it's really something
37:45
to just see how different vibrational the people are when
37:49
so many of these things are off of their plate.
37:52
There's something different about the energy when your government, when
37:56
when the ruling order of the land is not we're
38:00
willing to starve you to death in order to keep
38:03
things moving around here. Like you know, I saw this
38:07
TikTok that shook me to my core. There was this
38:10
Australian woman and she was showing how her kids daycare
38:15
sends the kids home with dinner for the adults, and
38:20
I was like, I don't understand what this is. I
38:23
don't understand what's happening. And they don't pay extra. It's
38:25
part of like the sixty Australian dollars that they pay
38:28
a day for daycare. And I'm like that's first of all,
38:32
that daycare there seems affordable and reasonable. And then you
38:36
get food, like they feed your kids, they send the
38:40
kids home with a plate for you. Yes, what good?
38:44
Like it looked like good food. It did not look
38:47
like gross cafeteria food like Square was. I love Square pizza,
38:51
but it's gross context. But yeah, that's Yeah. Every time
38:59
I see the things like that, I mean it it's
39:02
energizing because I'm like, well fuck, I mean some some
39:05
places are doing it humanely. Or you see like what
39:08
paternity to leave or parental leave is for people and
39:11
you're like, I'm sorry, how many months is it to
39:15
start your family? It's like they want you to they
39:19
want you to win. Okay, okay, yeah almost, yeah almost.
39:25
That makes so much sense to me as just the
39:28
the act of like feeding your kid is is so
39:33
many hours, you know, like just planning. Even if you
39:36
order out, it's like a lot of planning and going
39:38
to pick it up and versus like hey, I'm fed,
39:41
Hi dad, here's your dinner. Yeah yeah, what is that right?
39:48
It's like, Hi, I've come back with a plate full
39:51
of food for you and and marijuana. It's tough out here.
39:56
I'm like, what the funk day care is this? Thank you?
39:59
The woman said that there were families that did not
40:02
take that option, and I'm like, what's wrong with them?
40:05
Like you think they're like scoffing at it where they're like,
40:10
thank you so much, we will be fine without that.
40:14
I'm like, well, if the first one is good, I'm like,
40:16
this is easy. Take Sometimes about like two working parents,
40:20
so one parents stays home and they're like, we'll just
40:22
cook up for our food for ourselves or something, right,
40:24
But Ozzie's like getting if you know about these daycare meals,
40:30
send us a review. You know, what's what what, what's
40:33
what's usually coming with that? Not to say that it's
40:35
the fine dining, but I like food and other any
40:40
anyone from another country. If if there's something that you're
40:46
a government, like a nice perk that like your government
40:49
or like workplace or whatever it is, provides for you
40:53
that Americans couldn't couldn't possibly imagine, hit us up with
40:56
that too. Don't talk about healthcare though, like we know
41:00
we get it. Yeah, alright, let's take a quick break
41:04
and we'll come back and talk about Q and on
41:17
and we're back and al right, So Q and On
41:22
seems like they are. It would seem like it's almost
41:26
good news that Q and On is like sort of
41:29
getting a level of awareness about themselves that like, oh,
41:34
this is a bad look, but they they're also using
41:39
that to like become strategically more dangerous. I feel like, yeah, yeah,
41:46
so like one thing they're doing is going on school boards,
41:50
which is really worrying. Yeah, we talked about that at
41:52
a recent like Q convention or whatever. That's what the
41:56
big thing was, like, that's what we have to do.
41:57
And ever since that Q account when dark, all of
42:01
the these followers have been in limbo. Some people have
42:04
just been like, dude, this is this was so fucking stupid,
42:07
Like the storm is never coming and it's another people
42:11
are really trying to keep their hope alive. And those
42:14
that are still you know, invested in this conspiracy theory,
42:17
you know, against satanic democrats who you know, they've adopted
42:20
a new tactic, like you're saying, they're running for school
42:22
board and Mike Flynn told them, he said, quote local
42:25
action equals national impact. Take responsibility for your school committees
42:28
or boards, get involved in the education of our children.
42:31
Run for local state and the federal office, no more excuses.
42:35
So now they what they're doing is because they can
42:37
no longer wait for whatever Q was promising. They're just
42:41
marching forward with this idea of like, well, then we
42:43
need to save this country. We will begin to go
42:45
into the places where children are being educated. We can
42:48
begin to define what books need to be read, what
42:50
isn't going to be taught, or what will be taught,
42:53
and really start throwing their weight around ideologically. And they
42:57
also have realized they like you're saying, they gotta they
42:59
have to stop even Q and On. So this this
43:02
expert who writes about him said, quote, if you identify
43:04
as Q and on, people look at you like you're crazy.
43:06
But if you passionately talk about how we need to
43:08
be saving children and protecting them from trafficking, then you
43:12
come off as a compassionate person who really cares about
43:15
the welfare of children. You're no longer one of those
43:17
crazy cult people who thinks Hillary Clinton is trafficking kids
43:21
in a tunnel under Central Park. And in Michigan, there
43:24
were students who are demanding that a school member resigned
43:27
because she was so up in Q world and her
43:30
like Twitter was just just straight que stuff and she
43:33
would and she refused to resign. And then when the
43:36
press asked her about, you know, like what's going on
43:38
and like, you know, are you do you follow Q
43:39
and on? She said, quote, there's no such thing as
43:41
Q and on. Wow. So they're doing this like winky shit,
43:46
you know, and trying to get in and these sort
43:49
of off year low turnout local elections because no one's watching,
43:54
and those are easy ways to get in and get
43:56
a foothold. But it's it's it's really wild because I mean,
44:00
even though these people are very easy to spot, because
44:02
eventually they'll start saying some ship that is not about education.
44:07
Then you can be like, okay, I think I know
44:09
who you are. But they're being very strategic in acting
44:12
than maybe in playing dumb if you start talking about
44:15
you and on and so the thing that they're putting
44:18
forward is their opposition to child trafficking, which seems like, yes, okay,
44:23
that's something that we all can get behind, except the
44:27
way they picture child trafficking and describe it when they're
44:30
talking about like saving our children, is they're picturing these
44:35
like groups sneaking into homes usually probably they think Democrat groups,
44:41
but sneaking into homes and kidnapping their children from their
44:45
suburban beds and selling them to be distributed in furniture
44:50
ordered online or whatever. But so it's like built on
44:54
the satanic panic of the eighties, the stranger danger panic
44:59
in like already in the seventies and going into the eighties,
45:02
and that's still around today, which is, even though crime
45:05
has dropped precipitously since like the fifties, sixties, seventies, we
45:11
still think that children are constantly in danger in our
45:15
communities because of like how the local news has turned
45:19
into just a litany of you know, stories about kidnappings
45:23
and children being missing. And the truth is that child
45:27
trafficking is most often caused by poverty, underrepresented communities, the
45:34
child welfare system being underfunded and broken, drug abuse, poor
45:38
mental health support, and most importantly, a labyrinthine immigration system
45:43
that and I can't stress us enough separates children from
45:47
their fucking parents at the border and doesn't reconnect them
45:51
like and so it's just like all these systemic problems
45:56
that they're chosen party loves to underfund or you know,
46:00
just deconstruct is what is fueling the problem that they're
46:05
quote unquote like trying to fight, but it like doesn't
46:08
their actual like politics, them having positions on school boards
46:13
or any decision making body will actually lead to increased
46:19
child trafficking just because they are sucking up those systems
46:23
that cause child trafficking. Yeah, it's it's it's mind blowing.
46:28
And especially when like a lot of people who are
46:30
truly like you know, active in the space for advocating
46:33
for victims of child trafficking, they're like, please, you're doing
46:36
this all wrong. If you really give a funk, come
46:39
talk to us, Like yeah, exactly, And that's where you
46:43
realize it's like everything right where a lot of these
46:46
kind of conservative conspiracies and things probably it's never about
46:49
what the funk they're talking about. There's always a battle
46:51
against progress, that's all it is. That then this one
46:54
is just this has been taken up by more people
46:56
who have that hook is a little more attractive to
46:58
them than like whatever, if it's you know, the government's
47:02
gonna take your guns. There's that group of people who
47:04
really just don't like that they're seeing this the face
47:07
of America change and look more diverse and in the
47:10
same way, and grant you're in it, there's all kinds
47:13
of diverse Q followers, but at the end of the day,
47:16
if you when you really start reading into it, it'll
47:19
always end up in some kind of George Soros anti
47:22
Semitic thrope, some kind of like BLM is like making
47:26
up everything to distract us from you know, and it's
47:29
all all roads are pointing back to just maintaining the
47:32
status quo. Because one of the most vocal people in
47:35
like this new sort of you know, second wave of
47:37
Q and on or third wave Q and I don't know,
47:39
I don't know what wave there on yet, but you know,
47:42
he's been out here saying the ship that you just
47:44
hear about, like how most conservatives really wanna, you know,
47:49
sort of paint what's happening in culture. What they'll say
47:52
is that their kids are being carried away. This is
47:54
from this guy. His name's Drake Works is his name.
47:58
He says, they're being carried away through our education system,
48:01
through the woke ideology that's infiltrated professional sports, through sexual
48:04
grooming and pedophilia that's impairing in the entertainment industry. We
48:07
need to we need to run for precinct committees, we
48:10
need to run for city council, run for school board,
48:12
and primary the rhinos in this room, and all that
48:17
to say is right, we get it. You're looking at
48:20
America changing very quickly, and you're and you're accusing Republicans
48:25
who aren't going like full force being like put brown
48:27
people into camps, uh, that they are now Republicans in
48:31
name only. So it's a very you know, this is this,
48:35
this is the fucking foolish box that has been opened,
48:38
and you know, this is now looking like something that
48:40
could affect every single person now if this campaign to
48:43
infiltrate local government is successful. So that's why I also
48:46
suggest people, you know, look for holding office locally, you know,
48:51
see if you can get involved in the community, because
48:53
they're damn sure are people who have the worst ideas
48:55
trying to run your life at some point. So it's
48:58
so frustrating because a lot of those people who have
49:01
these very broken ideas of what the systems are and
49:05
what the system should be, and who are like, oh yeah,
49:08
run for office, they have a lot of inherited wealth
49:11
that enables them to do that effectively, whereas the people
49:14
who are trying to shift the system are still trapped
49:17
by it and are less able to do things like
49:19
run for office. So it's just like really infuriating. Grassroots
49:23
organizing is so important. Make sure you know who's running
49:26
down ballot in your elections, and make sure you support
49:29
people whose ideologies are the same as yours. And really,
49:32
don't just look at parties, look at actual platforms, because
49:36
just because someone says they're in your party doesn't mean
49:38
that they have the same platform as you. No, not
49:41
at all. And I think it's it's also important to
49:43
realize like, unfortunately, like the middle class, upper middle class,
49:48
college educated people, especially white people, are not going to
49:52
be the same kinds of agents of change and a
49:55
representative level that working class people would be if they
49:59
had acts us to these levers because people are looking
50:02
at it from completely different experiences. Not to say there's
50:04
no empathy, but just if you look at what motivates people,
50:09
the people who are going to be able to bring
50:10
as like the real kind of to articulate a lot
50:13
of the things that really need to change are the
50:15
people that are living day to day under the same stressors.
50:19
And yeah, that's why again it's really important. Again, I
50:22
know it's hard because ship you could get blown out
50:25
by some golf course, country club owning, person's kid who
50:29
wants to run for city council or local with the
50:31
neighbor precinct leader or whatever. But at the same time,
50:34
you do see these small pockets where you know, people
50:38
who are really dedicated are able to find the subgrassroots
50:41
support to actually make a you know, a formidable bid
50:44
for office. But yeah, it's it's just a lot to
50:47
to to think about. At every level where you need
50:50
motion and some radical change, you have people there who
50:55
don't have the imagination to do it. So if it's
50:57
brought to them, they're like, I don't know, this is
50:59
this That's not how we do anything here. And they
51:03
also got a lot of traction because they're operating through fear.
51:07
Like I am a woman and I exist on the
51:10
internet and I see a lot of like female spaces
51:13
and a lot of fear mong bring about getting trafficked
51:16
in those female spaces, and it's always like this is
51:18
the new tactic that people are using and target parking lots,
51:22
and it's always a target parking lot. Apparently it never
51:25
happens like a Coals parking lot. Soals, if you're trying
51:28
not to get traffics it's a psi op from coals
51:32
to be like, what we're gonna do is see this
51:35
idea that should happens in a target parking lot, and
51:38
then they're gonna come. They're gonna get their coals cash. No,
51:40
but seriously, it's always like, at least once a week,
51:43
I see a post in Facebook groups that I'm in
51:45
for women, and I know I'm old, I'm so on Facebook,
51:49
but I like it to me. But it's always like
51:51
if you see a person who asks you this question
51:55
about if you've seen where they have the oreos, then
51:57
they're gonna kidnap you, And I'm like, or they're just
51:59
some be looking for oreos and you are paranoid, or
52:03
like like there are all these different signs and signals
52:07
and this is the new way and this is the
52:08
new way. And at first when I started seeing him,
52:11
I was like scared. I was genuinely scared. And then
52:13
I started doing more research and it's like, no, it
52:16
is still that satanic panic, stranger danger like Q and
52:19
on pipeline. It's all the same stuff, and they're just
52:23
trying to erase the fact that most trafficking happens from
52:26
people that you already know, and then you've built relationships
52:29
with and it's not about this stranger in like a
52:34
cloak who's usually brown, coming and get you and steal
52:38
you away from your loving suburban family. Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
52:44
And there are victims of trafficking who have been lifelong
52:49
you know, advocates working with various administrations to try and
52:54
you know, actually attack the you know, societal rot that
52:58
makes trafficking possible and as frequent as it is. And
53:03
they when they try to correct que people online I
53:07
get accused of, you know, being part of the problem
53:11
or uh, you know, yeah, being part of the cover
53:14
up to so that I mean, I can't imagine how
53:17
frustrating that is. All right, Well, get involved in your
53:21
local politics, even if it's not you find a person
53:25
who you or be aware at the very least. Don't
53:28
let don't don't get blindsided by not knowing who you
53:32
know who's trying to make decisions in your community. Man,
53:37
it's so easy to you know, because we have so
53:40
much focus on our media on the federal level and
53:43
things like that. But ship when you when you really
53:46
look at how your own cities run, you'll either be
53:48
like really impressed and you're like oh wow, like I'm wow,
53:51
this is great, or you might be horrified and then
53:54
you might realize Okay. So rather, when the next election
53:57
comes up, I just don't go D or whatever party
54:00
on voting for, and we realize this person is actually
54:03
against addressing homelessness aggressively. So no, I don't care how
54:07
long you've been there. It's because we need people. Now
54:10
we're looking at it differently. Not here to take up
54:12
for the you know, Carusoe real estate group and follow
54:16
the money, because like I found it very suspicious when
54:19
Uber and Lift Indoor Dash and all those people were like,
54:22
we don't have money that parent employees, but then funneled
54:26
all of their money into that campaign about what, we
54:29
don't have money to pay our employees, so make it
54:31
so their independent contractors please, And it's garbage, and costs
54:37
have gone up, and they don't have protections, like there
54:40
are not protections against reporting sexual assaults the same way
54:43
that there would be were they employees there. They just
54:46
aren't there. Yeah, and now I find myself even less.
54:49
I'm like fuck it, I'll drive because I'm a part
54:52
of me is like I used to just you know,
54:54
I would like tip to offset you know, like what
54:57
it because I know, for a lot of the time,
54:58
like you can barely cover your if people aren't tipping
55:01
you correctly. But now like when you see like what,
55:03
they're caught because a lot of people have just stopped
55:05
doing it because on like the math just doesn't work
55:08
for them, Like you know, these are not I'm I'm
55:10
in the in the red when I when I drive
55:12
for Uber, So how does that work for me? And
55:15
I think, yeah, like I'm like, well, you know, I'll
55:17
start driving to take a cab if I have to,
55:19
but you'd hope that, you know, stuff would be great
55:23
if that were a better option. And yeah, I mean,
55:28
you know, eventually, eventually, eventually, I mean my friend came
55:33
over on four the July and was like when he
55:37
was leaving, he was like, oh, I need to like
55:40
I'm gonna have to take the bus because the fucking
55:43
Uber rates were they knew how many people needed Uber
55:47
that day and so they were just crazy. But you know,
55:49
and he takes the bus. People take the bus in
55:51
l A. Oh no, I'm not I'm not getting that
55:52
at all, But I'm saying it's tough though, Like the
55:54
way it's set up though, like it's inefficient and it
55:58
ends up take away hours in the day for people
56:02
who if they had a car, like you know, they
56:05
wouldn't be spending like a third of their life on
56:07
public transit because of the way things set up in
56:10
people in certain neighborhoods and absolutely rejecting the concept of
56:13
public transit going through where they live. Yeah, alright, let's
56:17
talk streaming ratings real quick. So you know, the this
56:21
weekly report that Nielsen is dropping is from a month ago,
56:26
but it recently came out with a report that said
56:30
sweet Tooth. I don't know, I don't know if you
56:32
guys remember that Netflix series where like the Child, Half Child,
56:36
Half Deer is what one D comics based on DC
56:45
comic that you know has been around for a little while,
56:47
I guess, but it was the number one thing. But
56:50
it also has like eight episodes, and this whole thing
56:56
is based on numbers of minute, number of minutes watched,
57:00
so when you like take that into account, the top
57:03
things that were watched this week where Ryan the Last
57:06
Dragon on Disney Plus, which I think just went from
57:10
like costing money to not costing money a month ago,
57:14
and Loki and Loki comes out like one episode at
57:18
a time, so with one episode available, it was watched.
57:23
You know, like what if you divide the number of
57:27
minutes by number of episodes, like those one off movies
57:32
were watched like four and five times as much as
57:35
like some of these streaming shows, which you can't you
57:39
can't like necessarily make it do that math. I'm sure
57:42
people were only like watching one episode of Sweet Tooth
57:46
or whatever some of the times. But can we can
57:48
we go back to that really quick that it's that
57:51
half boy deer or have human have deer? I just
57:55
googled it, which it looks like a child who has
57:58
like fun dear ears and antlers, but the rest is
58:03
just like a human body. Oh like sugar, we're going
58:06
down exactly, Oh my god, I'm there. Yeah, um, but
58:15
like what what are the ratios? You know? But I
58:19
guess I'm sure we're going down. He didn't have the
58:21
human ears, right, the sugar we're going down? Guy going
58:25
down swinging the boyfriend Like the whole conceited the video
58:29
was that the dad hated the boyfriend because he had
58:31
the antlers and the antlers to get stuff on stuff,
58:33
And then it turned out that the dad had like
58:35
dear hind legs or something, and that's why it was
58:39
like he was self hating. I don't know why I
58:41
still have that in my spirit, but yeah, so he
58:44
had ears and antlers. I think loaded god complex, cock
58:48
it and pullet. Let's get down. But the whole thing
58:50
with this, I'm curious, like, if you're gonna be a hybrid,
58:53
this is where I get. This is when I went
58:55
because the second you said half dear, half human, I
58:58
pictured a centaur. Right. How much of the body do we, collectively,
59:02
the three of us, do we believe if you are
59:04
a dual species hybrid? What's the ratio of uh features, appendages,
59:11
bodied style that you need to have that it doesn't
59:14
because this just seems like like a kid with antlers.
59:16
You know, I'm not I'm not really feeling the whole
59:18
like I don't know if his feet or hooves or what.
59:20
But I'm curious if you feel if you're as neurotic
59:23
as I am and being like there are not enough
59:26
dear features. This is merely a childhood ash. And I
59:29
don't know why I'm thinking that. I think if you
59:31
look at a Punnett square, like it depends on a
59:36
lot of chance in terms of genetics, and there's like, Okay,
59:40
I feel like, I don't know, it's kind of I
59:42
don't I'm not comparing mixed race people to animals. I
59:46
just want to be very clear on that. But with
59:49
mixed race people, there are people who are siblings who
59:52
look completely different, but they have the same quote unquote
59:55
percentage of their parents d n A. So I'm wondering
1:00:00
in this if you can have somebody who is part
1:00:04
dear and like the same level of parts. Although Anna
1:00:07
has said that it's about a disease where people start
1:00:10
having half animal kids and then they want to exterminate
1:00:13
them all because they don't get it. So I don't
1:00:16
think it's genetics now that I'm looking at that. So
1:00:20
some kind of global ailment. Okay, if that makes sense,
1:00:22
that makes sense, But that would be close that this
1:00:24
is my sister, Like that's a dear and you're like,
1:00:26
fuck you man, are you serious? Right? Jack Horseman kind
1:00:31
of delves into that where they have human animal relationships
1:00:34
and then there will be like a dear child and
1:00:36
a human child and their siblings. Yeah, sorry, what we're
1:00:39
saying about streaming so well. Barry Barry Diller came out
1:00:43
and was like the movie industry as we know it
1:00:46
is dead because like people aren't like they're not doing
1:00:49
the same like huge marketing campaigns. And again that it
1:00:53
was an interview with MPR where he I have to
1:00:56
believe was using a body double who was in an
1:00:59
old man mass just based on the picture, people can
1:01:01
go look at it themselves. But like, I mean that's
1:01:03
true in so far as like all industries and all
1:01:07
things are constantly evolving and the version of them that
1:01:10
existed yesterday is dead today. But like I still think
1:01:14
movies have more cultural like juice in terms of like
1:01:21
how much of a mind share and like how much
1:01:23
of the images that we have in our unconscious minds,
1:01:27
like they are contributing to over over streaming content over
1:01:31
really anything else. Like when you look at like even
1:01:35
those streaming movies that you know dominated this week Ryan
1:01:40
and Loki isn't a movie, but it was. It was
1:01:43
one episode at a time, like they are. We're looking
1:01:47
at like nine million people watching them this week, and
1:01:50
like f nine has been watched by fifty million people.
1:01:53
So it's it's like the movies that are that a
1:01:58
lot of people go see are still like being like
1:02:01
injected into the global shared consciousness, like I think more
1:02:06
than really anything else. Yeah, I mean, I think until
1:02:11
like the act of going to a theater is fully done,
1:02:15
that's when I think the industry has a problem, because
1:02:18
there's just going to a movie is just still a
1:02:20
very enjoyable experience for the most part. And because of that, Yeah,
1:02:25
I think until that shifts in some fundamental way where
1:02:28
people like to I don't need movie theaters anymore because
1:02:31
I don't know, we were able to wear oculist headsets
1:02:34
that it makes everything imax or projection technology changes such
1:02:39
where the you know, the screens are watching. But I
1:02:41
think there's just something too about it's like a real
1:02:43
low energy concert going to a movie. You know, like
1:02:46
you're there other people like, yeah, they must sunk with
1:02:48
the two if they're here, So whatever, let's watch this
1:02:50
will laugh and then or cry or whatever, and then
1:02:53
we leave and you kind of have that sense of
1:02:54
being around people. But yeah, I don't know, Barry Diller,
1:02:58
just stick to being the old guy. I feel like movies,
1:03:03
we're still gonna want to have that experience, and probably
1:03:06
more now that we've been deprived of like collective human experiences.
1:03:11
But I think that the movie industry as it exists
1:03:14
should change. I don't think it should die, but I
1:03:16
think it should change a lot. And like, I think
1:03:19
that more movies should be accessible, Like there are a
1:03:22
lot of movie theaters that don't give great caption options.
1:03:25
I wish there's least two showings every day. Yeah, I
1:03:29
wish at least two showings every day captions on the screen.
1:03:32
Like I would go to those showings. And I am
1:03:35
a hearing person, but people don't think the good acting
1:03:38
is whispering. I don't know when that happened, but people
1:03:41
are like, can tell you right, Like, no, I can't
1:03:47
hear you. I'm sorry. It was when Lost in Translation
1:03:50
got away with like the big ending line being whispered
1:03:54
and we couldn't hear it, And people are like, oh,
1:03:57
ship that how that movie ends? Never seen Lost in Translation? Yeah,
1:04:02
there's like a big whispered moment where we don't know what. Yeah,
1:04:05
I'm not watching that, but no, it's like, if you
1:04:11
make things accessible to more people, more people will do
1:04:14
the thing. And I don't know where that's getting Lost
1:04:17
in Translation for the people who are in charge. Um,
1:04:22
but yeah, I think that there was something really powerful
1:04:25
about seeing like Trolls World Tour do really well, both
1:04:30
do well, do really well with streaming, because like taking
1:04:32
kids to the movies is I'm sure you know, Jack,
1:04:36
a true hassle. It's like, it's it's an adventure. And
1:04:41
if you can watch a movie with your kids at
1:04:43
home and you can watch it again and again and
1:04:45
again because the kids are gonna watch it again and
1:04:47
again and again and it's more financially accessible, then that's
1:04:49
gonna be great. And they're just there needs to be
1:04:52
a hybrid model where people aren't thinking about the way
1:04:54
that we've been doing it and thinking about how we
1:04:56
can push things forward and innovate make movies better for
1:04:59
more people. Yeah, I think, Yeah, it's things things that
1:05:05
I was just gonna say. If if you like watching
1:05:07
movies over and over again with the kids, you guys,
1:05:10
check out Davids. Oh man, it's a DVD technology. Rather
1:05:14
than renting the most expensive DVDs from your home, you
1:05:17
can buy never Mind you all remembers that's stupid as
1:05:20
pay per view DVD thing. You have to pick your
1:05:22
DVD there to a phone line. Never mind for the
1:05:26
real tech laims out there. I was I was just
1:05:29
about to google it and be like, oh shoot, I
1:05:31
gotta get You know, it was a thing because the
1:05:34
DVD would be like thirty bucks or whatever. In the
1:05:36
early days, they're like by a divis and then like
1:05:40
every time you want to watch it, it's only like
1:05:42
two bucks. And then over time you can just watch
1:05:45
it and not have to pay for buying the Matrix
1:05:47
on DVD. You just rent it. But people are like,
1:05:50
watch the Matrix fifteen times. It's not worth it for me.
1:05:54
They're like, how does this working? Like it has to
1:05:55
be in a phone. I was like, yeah, just dial
1:05:57
in and then we'll charge you, and they're like, this
1:05:59
is it. It didn't last for more than two seconds.
1:06:01
But but to uh, Barry Diller's point, though, like something
1:06:05
that felt very different to me and knew was so
1:06:08
this movie that Tomorrow War came out on Amazon last
1:06:12
weekend with Chris Prett pretty America's least favorite Chris Well
1:06:17
apparently not because so I was just based on the marketing,
1:06:22
Like there there was some marketing, but it didn't seem
1:06:25
like anybody was really like talking about it that it
1:06:27
was trending that many places Mike Mitchell from Dough Boys
1:06:31
in it, so I had heard him talk about it
1:06:33
a lot, and and Sam Richardson's in it, like it's
1:06:36
the sort of thing that I should have like kind
1:06:38
of been into, but I was just like, it really didn't.
1:06:40
The marketing didn't do it for me. It just seemed
1:06:42
like a vague action movie. And but it was only
1:06:45
released on Amazon Prime, and it apparently was like very
1:06:50
successful on Amazon Prime, which I was I did not
1:06:54
see coming just based on like it seemed like the
1:06:57
sort of thing that was going to flop if it
1:06:59
had been in theaters. But for whatever reason, Amazon Prime
1:07:03
is saying that it's like broke all their records, and
1:07:05
everybody watched mhm broke their records. Though who's watching other
1:07:11
things on Amazon Prime? Like who's watching a ton of
1:07:14
movies on Amazon Prime? Not to share down, which, um,
1:07:19
I don't know anybody who's seen this movie, which doesn't
1:07:22
mean anything because I'm in my own little liberal bubble,
1:07:24
but like very interesting to hear that. Yeah, it was
1:07:30
very popular internationally, which I think a lot of action
1:07:33
movies tend to be, and and to your point, the
1:07:37
number one movie in the history of Amazon Prime to
1:07:40
that point. So the records it was breaking were from
1:07:43
coming to America too, so that that's not like that's
1:07:47
a movie that probably would have been successful where we
1:07:50
not in the middicipal global pandemic, but it wouldn't have
1:07:52
been like a holds the record for the box office
1:07:56
in a giving year type thing, right. I heard that
1:08:00
it's full coppaganda from our producer Anna that that Tomorrow
1:08:05
what's the movie? I can't even remember the name of
1:08:07
the movie, Tomorrow War? Is that the Tomorrow War? Yeah,
1:08:10
it's a bad name. It used to be called the
1:08:11
Ghost Draft and then it was turned called the Tomorrow
1:08:14
War and they're all bad. Apparently it's full coppaganda according
1:08:17
to Ana Hosnia. But yeah, it's got a really good
1:08:19
cast of comedians like Sam Richardson, Marylyn Rice Cop and
1:08:24
Mike Mitchell. So he shout out to cops. Well, Karama,
1:08:30
it has been such a pleasure having you on the daily.
1:08:34
Where can people find you? And Folly, people can follow
1:08:38
me at Karama Drama on Twitter and Instagram and people
1:08:43
can find me um. I was in a web series
1:08:46
called Tricycles that just came out this summer. Check it
1:08:49
out on I think It's tricycles show dot Com and
1:08:53
check out my episode of My carle that's gonna air
1:08:55
on July. Ratulations again, is there a tweet or some
1:09:03
of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Is there? Yes?
1:09:07
America's favorite Auntie Dion Warwick tweeted yesterday about how she's
1:09:12
been learning about memes, but she's spelled it capital m E,
1:09:16
capital m E, So I think she's calling the memes,
1:09:19
which just drills me. Yeah, so she said, I'm trying
1:09:23
to learn about mimi's. I want to make one on
1:09:26
my own with this photo. What would you create? And
1:09:29
then it's a picture of this dog holding a ball
1:09:32
that looks like it's from a ball pit, just like
1:09:34
a yellow dog. And it just makes me so happy.
1:09:37
And the way that like people are responding is very
1:09:40
sweet and wholesome, and everybody's like, yeah, Auntie Dion, I'll
1:09:43
help you. This is a meme I would make. This
1:09:45
is a meme I would make. And I just think
1:09:47
we should all treat each other on the internet the
1:09:49
same way we'd treat Dion Warwick on the internet. Yeah,
1:09:53
for sure. Unfortunately it's easier said than done. Oh yeah
1:09:56
for sure, Miles. Where can people find you? What's a
1:09:59
tweet you've been enjoying find me Twitter, Instagram at Miles
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of Gray and also the other show for twenty day Fiance.
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Check that one out twitch dot tv Slash four twenty
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D Fiance. If you like ninety D Fiance and wheat
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or either it works, it works either way. A tweet
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that I like from Dana Donnelly at Dana donn Lee
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deal n l Y tweeting my ex would always reply
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to random girls Instagram stories, and when I called him on,
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he was like, well, if it makes you feel better,
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they usually don't even respond, like, oh yeah, death makes
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me feel better to learn my boyfriend is not only shady,
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he's also undesirable. He keeps coming with the fucking heat
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rocks on Twitter. So yeah. A couple of tweets I've
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been enjoying. Earl Sweatshirt tweeted, I thank God every day
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that my son has a pleasure to be around. He
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saves his greatest challenges for his strongest soldiers, and he
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knows I'm not strong enough to be locked in with
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a bad vibes baby. Very true of me as well.
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And then Katie Sex have her Saint Ange at Skati
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fo twenty tweeted description too nervous to ask for emotional support. Man,
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it smells like wrong dog in here? Oh man, I
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think that might be my favorite tweet. What's wrong dog?
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Oh my god, that's so good mastered the form, wowweet,
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well done man, wrong dogging and then into tears when
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they ask you, yeah, it smells like wrong. You're gonna
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that on my therapist, like, yeah, it smells like wrong dogs?
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You as this week we're talking about this this. You
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information that we talked about in today's episode, as well
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as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
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what song do we think people might enjoy? This is
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gonna be a track from Salt. You know, if you
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remember Will from the Public Trouble podcasts on each time
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about Salt and you know it is a great band.
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And let's just let's take out look, we've we've gone
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out on why Why Why? Why? Why before, But this
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time we'll do wildfires. And yeah, it's just this is
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good music, man, it's good music. It's nice to hear
1:12:48
people play instruments and be joyful and it sounds good.
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So this is Salt s a u l T with wildfires.
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