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Speaker 1
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
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Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
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this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment last stravaganza.
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Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles,
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we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
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once again by a correspondent, a stand up comedian who
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you know as the host and head writer of the
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series News Broke, the MSNBC special Red White and who
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correspondent on that Geo's Explorer, and as a regular commentator
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on Young Turk's network, the Bituation Room podcast. She's been
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on Love It or Leave It, and it is just
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a very funny comedian. Francesco. Yeah, I don't interrupt my
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my intro, Miles, And this is part two of a
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Francesco Fiorentini. Hi, Hi, Francesco Fiorentini. Francesco Fiorentini, How are you.
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I I'm good. Yeah, this is a little bit of
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a part two because my fiance was on yesterday Matt
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Le Matt Leave, and I know he told a lot
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of just just put out all the dirty laundry, yeah,
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of our perfect engagement. And I'm not going to go
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back and choreographic re choreographic correctly and hire a photographer.
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So I'm gonna need some reshoots, a little extra budget
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for the reshoots on this one. Um, this time, you're
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gonna ask that he not proposed to you with a
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blue raspberry ring? Pop? Is that correct? I really wish
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he had him because it would have been far less expensive.
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He sounded so stressed. Yes, O, man, I gotta, I
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gotta figure out what to do with this thing. I feel.
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Here's the thing when you buy a ring. First of all,
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don't consult sex in the city, because I know he
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did that like fifteen years later. And then number two,
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don't ask my brother. Don't ask the only man you
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know of my fa like my brother wraps Christmas gifts
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in newspaper still like at the age of thirty six,
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you're or forties forty now, like this is the kind
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of like he was like, Oh, so you know you
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imagine the jeweler, imagine the jeweler just like the door
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opens and you see matt Leeb's face just like all
02:37
dumb and in love, and you're just like, yes, oh buddy,
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did your brother at least wrap it in the comics section,
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of course tasteful. It's not like yeah, it's like the
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international news, you know, like drought. And I remember like
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one of the first birthdays where my like, you know,
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because of head enormousy, my mom was wrapping the gifts
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when I will go to a birthday party, like you know, like, okay,
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take your gift. This is the gift for the party.
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And where my mom was out of town once and
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my dad had to wrap a gift and he did
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in the in the funnies, you know, the comics the newspaper,
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and I was so bummed out. I'm like, yo, this
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looks like drash, Dad, this is newspaper. He's like, it's
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the Funnies. Man. At least it's not like auto trading
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section or whatever. And I was look, I was just
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so mortified at like seven years old, pulling up to
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Pistol PiZZ pizza place well with this jankie as gift.
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But anyway, was it for a child? Yeah, it was
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for another kid. Oh I see you man, it was
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for pistol Pete Maravich. I thought you were Actually it
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was like it was like a chucky cheese type place.
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We had a pistol PiZZ Yeah, where did you grow up? Arkansas?
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Like not what? Oh yeah, that's yeah my favorite Valley
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Shotgun show because that sounds like okay, okay, l a
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has been Ellie's a mess. Okay. In a place that
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was a kids of restaurant in the early nineties, you know,
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I wasn't expecting anything remotely close to relevant or culturally sensitive.
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I love, I really want kids to understand the kinds
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of birthday parties and the plate the JANKI ass places
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that we had our birthday parties. You like Rocky and
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Bowl Winkles with like the animatronic like like how scary
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and haunting? Get like somehow we loved it? At least
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that's I love Rocky and Bowl Winkles. Um, wait, where
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where's Where's Rocky and Bull? It was up in the
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Bay Bay area and it doesn't exist anymore. I don't know.
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I think someonem got canceled. I don't know who you know?
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How it is these pizza places? Right? No? I meant
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like Rocky your Bowl Winkle, I did some shady ship, Matt.
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We like to ask our guests, what is something from
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your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh? Absolutely. Um,
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here's one how to sell a brand new engagement ring.
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That's uh, that's an there. Now that sounds confusing because
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you're like, but Matt, you just said you were engaged.
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Well I am. She said yes to me, she said
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no to the ring, and uh yeah, so I bought
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a real, real bad ring, and yes, this is I thought,
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I say, all right, the engagement Well, dude, I bought
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a really bad ring. What happened? Okay, So she sent me, like,
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I don't know, a couple of months ago, she sent
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me a picture of a ring she thought was cute,
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and so I was like, looking too, I wanted to
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buy that ring because I had no visual I I
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don't know what looks good. Like. We watched Sex in
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the City once and like Aidan bought carry a pear
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shaped engagement ring, and like a parent and and all
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of the girls sitting around like Samantha and Charlotte. Then
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we're just like, oh, pear shaped. I had no idea
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pear shaped was bad. So I knew not to get
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a pear shaped I knew that much. And then so
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I went to first I went to Tiffany's, and then
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that was really expensive, so I went to the jewelry
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shop across the street from Tiffany's, and it was like cheaper.
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And then I just kept showing them like what I
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want is a square in a circle. I don't want
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a diamond, like a conflict stone. And so they didn't
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have exactly what I was looking for. So they they
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made one custom which turns out when you do that
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first year, you can't return it, and also you have
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to pay up front. And also it was kind of
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created from pictures of better rings, uh, and then kind
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of mashed together. And then so the day of I
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went in and it's like it's a London blue topaz.
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I thought it was gonna be like a light blue.
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This is really blue. It's like it looks like a
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like a Jolly Rancher blue raspberry yeah yeah, which is
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a delicious flavor, but it looks really bad on a ring.
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And so I I bought that, and then as soon
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as I got it, I had a panic attack because
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I knew it was the opposite of what she wanted.
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I thought it was gonna be small, but because it's
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blue topaz and it's like kind of a cheap semi
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precious stone, it was real big, like it looks like
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seven year old, like Florida Jewish Lady jewelry. And yeah,
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so I ended up. You're looking for a ring, hit
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mad up. Yeah, you're looking for a beautiful blue topaz
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ring that's not part of the sea from Titanic. It does,
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it's like that, but it's like, you know, it's blue
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or somehow. And yeah, and it's not a conflict stone,
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although it became one when she saw it, and she
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she definitely did not she did not like it, but
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we're still in love. You had a sense, you had
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a sense going in and I have this, my lady. Yeah,
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oh I knew. I knew as soon as I got it.
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I fucked up. And what I didn't know? Tiffany's it's
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from TIFFs yah yeah yeah yeah, Hey tiff can you
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make me a ring for way too much money? A
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photo line? Yeah yeah, I'll mash him together and photo
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shop and I'll get you something approximating something I would like.
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It's a beautiful ring. If you like, you know, if
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you like something kind of gaudy. But if if you don't,
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still buy it from me. Uh please someone buy the ring.
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So we got another ring, uh that that she loves
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that's coming in the mail. But yeah, I got this
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this other one though, if anyone it's really hard to sell, dude. Yeah,
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no one told me. I wish someone had told me that.
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I wish I had asked. That's what I wish more
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than anything is that I yeah, do a it'll do daily. Um.
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But instead I was like, I got this. What's the
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worst second happened? Take just steal my money. But we're
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about to get silly. We're about to get silly. All
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that do delly King of the Hilly Anyways, I'm yeah, so, uh,
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that's the last thing I googled how to sell and
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it's brand new, never used. You know. She wouldn't even
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put it on. She didn't. She was just looked at
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it when she went uh oh wow. Yeah. But I
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proposed by getting down on one knee and proposing with
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the box, but it wasn't open. And then she I
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waited for her to say yes first and then and
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then she was like, we'll show me the ring and
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I was like, okay, but it's the worst part. And
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then I opened it and I was like, you still
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marry me? And she was like, oh, not with that ring.
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And then she kissed me and uh yeah, and uh
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we're still in love though, you know. So it's it's fine,
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that's good. It's all about honestly, you know. Yeah, but
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if anyone has any stock tips um or just like
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any like way to recoup a few grand, just let
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me know. You know, I'll sell some drugs. I don't
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give a funk anymore. You're going to take a few
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flights to believe you for me. I am down, dude,
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I got I got a cavernous coal and you can
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shove whatever whatever drugs you need in there. Dude, I will,
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you know, I'll help out. I'm just trying to help. Yeah, man,
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my engagement ring put me in so much debt. But
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did she take it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, well that's nice.
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Yeah yeah she she like specifically picked it out. Yeah
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that's smart. That's a good way of doing it. But
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then she was still surprised. I don't know, she must
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have like put a mental block, being like, but he'll
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never actually do it because yeah, yeah, no, she well
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she was surprised too, you know. Yeah. She's like, you
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look so gaunt, Jack when you propose like I sold
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all my blood. Yeah, it's there's something to be said
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for being a idiot, because like I was able to
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get her to the location where I had like set
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up this bar, which was the first place I ever
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told her I loved her. Was surprisingly an Irish bar.
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I was, I was pretty drunk, uh and I had
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like set up the basement of the bar. But the
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way I got her there was being like I forgot
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my fucking credit card at the at a puck fair again.
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She's like, okay, fine, we'll go back there at So
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you started it with a test of her relationship. Yeah, right,
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you started it with a possible crisis, like can you yeah,
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passages in Malibu? Yeah, yeah, Yeah. What is something you
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think is overrated? I think winter? I can can go
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suck a lemon, don't eat it. We like, if you're
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in the southern hemisphere, I'm sorry, but we're out of
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that season, and I'm really glad about it. It's there's
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nothing actually good about it, and and we can forget it.
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This this is the best time right now. Yeah? Are
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you spring has spring uh sprung? Or are you getting
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into the summer days where where you are on the
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East Coast? Yeah, in North Carolina, we're getting real summer
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and so it is hot but I don't know. I
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I grew up with winter outside Chicago, and then I
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went to college and winter in Syracuse, and as soon
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as I wasn't there, I like, I went to college
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in winter. Yeah, it's just like when it comes to Syracuse,
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that is winter. It is a geographic location where winter
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has come and continues to stay. Yeah, it doesn't doesn't
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miss around. Yeah did you miss it when you lived
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in Los Angeles? Not even a little bit. It was amazing.
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I just I was like, oh, you can just not
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deal with this. Fantastic it was an option this whole time,
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just south of us. You know, it's great. Yeah, I
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missed the rhythm a little bit, not enough to ever
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move away from Los Angeles, but I do enjoy just
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the discomfort and shittiness of the rest of the country
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has to put up with. No. Uh. It does like
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kind of break up time a little bit in a
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way that makes long term memory easier to comprehend. But
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it also breaks up outfits nicely. Yeah, that is the
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one that is the one thing that I missed. It's like,
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I totally agree with you where it's like winter totally
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can suck a lemon. I'm not with it. I don't
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want slashing my boots, but I do miss being able
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to wear a long coat in that fall area right
13:47
before winter, when it's like, oh it's nice to bundle
13:49
a little bit put a scarf on. I miss that, Whereas,
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like you know, it could be the most warming up
13:55
I will do was putting on slightly thicker sweatpants out
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here in outlay. And that's it, you know, And I
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would love to put a code on again. That just
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sounds nice. Yeah, People who grew up in l A
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like fetishized winter, like Miles and Daniel, they have winter
14:13
outfits for no reason for yeah, like maybe those three
14:17
days we traveled to the East coast for Thanksgiving and
14:20
that's about it. Yeah. I want I want winter as
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a treat for a little bit, right, I want I want,
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like I want to briefly watch the Peanuts go ice
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skating and especially and then it's cold outside for the
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two days a minute and then forgetting little that was
14:34
enough like yeah, oh little taste fun. Yeah. And finally, Blair,
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what is something that you think is underrated? Okay, guys,
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I just got to be straight up with you. Chip
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clips are incredible. Okay, you will not catch my cereal
14:53
getting stale, No fucking way. Thank you God for this
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sophisticated us inf sun that just brings joy and laser
15:03
execution into my life. Chip Clips are the silent, subtle
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assassin of adding overwhelming value while asking for little to
15:15
no recognition. Chip clicks are the Scottie Pippen of how
15:22
Wold Kitchen, where yes, that's totally is it? Am I
15:33
like fucked up for not realizing that, Yeah, that I've
15:37
never I've never sealed the cereal outside of like the
15:40
box that's brilliant. One day, I just was walking by
15:44
in the store and it was like a little thing
15:46
sticking out in the aisle, you know, and I just
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grabbed like a whole like a um, it had like
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a whole bunch of them on one thing. And from
15:55
that day on the amount of just my life improved,
15:59
Skyrock did. And it's like I'm putting those chip clips
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on on frozen diss and chips and cereal and it's
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just incredible. It really is, Like, which is it the
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ones that you it's like the straight bar so it's
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like a hair clip one or the one that's more
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like a binder clip, because you know, there's there's different
16:15
chip bag clipping technoque different one. I think if the
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second one is kind of like elegant, where I was like, oh,
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this is it's that kind of it's a binder clip. Yeah.
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Mine is actually not like a binder one. It's more
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um fastened like a close pin, but just um really
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sleek plastic and wow it works really good. Yeah. I
16:36
remember as a kid, I think because this the frequency
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at which I would eat cereal, it wasn't really time
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for it to get stale, you know, because like it
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would probably be like a boxing cereal, probably be done
16:46
within a week or so. And then I remember like
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going to kids houses and like you know, like their
16:52
parents had like the ship in like the tupperware, and
16:54
like they would pour it out of like a and
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I would always be like, you don't even know what
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you know that the box on the other funck is stupid.
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And then I'm like, yeah, that ship is way fresher.
17:04
How am I supposed to know what that is? If
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there's not a cartoon? I know, but that just shows
17:08
you by the child brain at the time, like many
17:11
cocoa Chris, I can't I can't tell about the robbers
17:14
on it. I like the taste of stale food, and
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so sometimes I'll like not clip the chips, and then
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it creates household issues because Isaac will be like, you're
17:24
a little mouse, like why are you doing this? Why
17:27
are the chips like soft? But I kind of like
17:29
when the chips are soft, wow, So you like you're
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not You're down with a little bit of stale chip?
17:36
You I love. I love a stale chip in a
17:38
flat soda. I don't know what like I should should
17:41
I should just walk into the ocean. I need just
17:45
natural contrarians. Yeah, it's true. It's true. If anyone prefers
17:51
a stale chip, let me know, because it truly, like
17:53
doesn't bother me at all. I enjoy it. I wonder man,
17:58
that could be an interesting That's like your circular hot
18:01
dogs is like pre staled chips by Jamie. Well, yeah,
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I'll just sell bags of chips that I already opened,
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had three chips from, and then put back in the
18:11
cabinet for three weeks. Touch a stale from Jamie loftus.
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I hope this thing though too, where I know people
18:20
who put their chips in the refrigerator and I don't
18:22
understand like clipped and in the refrigerator. Well, that's that's
18:27
sort of innovative. My mom taught me to keep my
18:32
coffee in refrigerator, which was something I never considered. The beans,
18:36
who the ground beans. I don't really funk with a
18:39
whole bean myself, but oh you get the preground. Yeah,
18:43
I mean I don't have that much time or ambition
18:47
for that many steps in my coffee process. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:51
I I used to just drink it out of the can.
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That's how much energy I put into it. But also
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shout out to Sam over a timeless coffee aways sends
18:58
me wonderful coffee. Her match these drinks, Oh my beans
19:02
are like so good. I feel like I'm not worthy
19:06
of good coffee because I'm just so used to drinking
19:09
like Kirkland coldbrew. But like, when you actually get all
19:11
these notes, you're like, oh shit, I feel like I'm
19:14
an ad executive. We just said he had an epic
19:17
weekend or something. Yeah, exactly, all right. Anyway, um, let's
19:22
take a quick break and we'll be right back to
19:23
talk stories. And we're back and we all gotta I
19:37
don't know if it was a rude awakening, but you know,
19:40
I think I think we've been aware that the Q,
19:43
the Q movement is still out there, still going strong,
19:46
but had a big weekend. Last weekend there was a
19:50
Texas convention where various speakers, including a congressman and Michael Flynn,
19:59
just you know, repeated the lies that the Q movement
20:03
is based on, like the foundational lies that it's stolen.
20:08
Michael Flynn even when when asked like why America hasn't
20:11
had a mean mar style uprising or que which, in
20:17
case you're not familiar, that means that like protesters are shot,
20:21
journalists are put in prison, and a new undemocratically elected
20:26
government is put into power by the military. He said
20:31
he thinks that would be great, that we should have that.
20:35
That's awesome. And I think it's easy to dismiss the
20:39
Q movement as sort of a collection of delusional, you know,
20:43
narcissists shouting do your own research as their singular argument
20:48
for every bizarre belief they've made up, because like, that
20:51
is what it is. But it also I feel like,
20:56
first of all, Trump is totally on board with this.
20:58
Maggie Haberman just announced that he's been saying that he
21:03
fully believes that he will be reinstated as president by August.
21:08
And that's like where his sort of laser focus on
21:12
the audits. Uh, those goalposts back, just keep moving to
21:16
back a little bit more. I was it was March
21:17
for the first storm, and that's August. He's maybe like October,
21:21
I'm telling you October, that's going to be the money.
21:24
But they're leaning into a new thread, which is that
21:30
America needs to have a M. M. Mar style cou
21:33
where the military deposes the democratically elected ruler and sells
21:36
their own like as like that that feels significant to me.
21:42
I know it's easy like a lot of people. But
21:46
but and like especially because like I feel like in
21:49
the mainstream media there's this division where it's like, oh,
21:51
the Cube movement is silly, but it's being led by
21:56
Donald Trump, who is also leading the Republican Party like
21:59
full the way, No, like it's more powerful, has more
22:03
power in that party than I feel like any individual
22:06
has ever had in one of the major parties in
22:10
in like u S history, Like he just determines what
22:13
happens there. Yeah, so I don't know, less than three
22:17
years we're going to have a major presidential election where
22:21
one of the major parties platform is this is Q
22:25
and on ship is stop the steel and is basically
22:29
tacitly an approval of an armed uprising. Yea. And if
22:33
if I remember the previous election, like the official Republican platform,
22:39
the platform was just of one page documents staple to
22:43
the front of the ten platform, and it said we
22:46
support Donald J. Trump. That was the that was. They
22:48
didn't they didn't have like issues for I think the
22:52
first time in an American election the major party wasn't
22:55
like this our candidate, and also this is what we believe.
22:57
They were just like, no, this this wonderful, strange man.
23:01
That's our entire platform. Anyway, this is democracy, that's what
23:04
we like. And any and any issues at all that
23:08
were brought to the table, we're just to refute them.
23:10
We're gonna be like, that's not a thing. We don't
23:12
believe from that climate change, we're not you know, that's
23:15
a that's a liberal hoax right there. It's just everything
23:17
is everything is anti You're right, there's there's no ground
23:20
to stand on. And I feel like this is because
23:26
it's been politicized, and because Democrats recognize that it's been politicized,
23:31
they are you know, the right wing, like a right
23:35
wing terror group or a group that's threatening to overthrow
23:39
the government is being treated more passively by the mainstream
23:45
than like if a congressman and a former you know,
23:51
major military official we're talking about overthrowing the US government
23:54
for any other cause, it would be like the end
23:57
of the news cycle. But just because of all the
24:01
normalization that has happened, and because of the Fox News
24:05
advantage that the right has where they you know, have
24:10
all mainstream commentators and mainstream Democrats frightened of being attacked,
24:17
that they just this is being treated more passively than
24:20
it would if any left wing group like made similar claims.
24:25
It's just because of what has gone on with the
24:28
Republican Party and like how the Democrats have just kind
24:31
of been controlled by the right wing media over the
24:35
last you know, fifteen years. It's we're now at a
24:38
point where they're going to get away with us. Yeah,
24:41
and I wonder how much of this just springs from
24:44
most Americans don't know anything about me Edbar, Like you
24:47
can switch governments and me and Bar it's like, well,
24:50
I want to switch governments, not learning anything more. Yeah,
24:56
I mean it seems to be working out, well, yeah,
25:00
you you following me? Yeah, I mean it's still a country, right, yeah,
25:07
I don't know. We I I and really filled about
25:09
the previous election because there won't be a Republican president
25:12
until January of and I think they're not processing it
25:19
very well. It seems to be the issue. All right,
25:23
Let's talk about this new book it's called The Second
25:28
Race and Guns and a Fairly Unequal America that really
25:32
kind of crystallized the conversation around the Second Amendment for
25:37
me in a way that I hadn't like fully consciously
25:40
embraced because I feel like the way the mainstream media
25:44
treats it, it's like the Second Amendment conversation, the gun
25:48
rights advocate conversation. It's just like treated as a coincidence
25:54
that those people tend to also be the people who
25:57
get furious when you suggest something as simple as black
26:01
lives matter. But it's like, yeah, they're just like on
26:04
the same spectrum, but they're not necessarily like fully connected
26:09
to one another. And this new book by historian Carol
26:13
Anderson looks at both the history of the Second Amendment,
26:16
like when it was first formed and why it was
26:19
first formed, but also just sort of the present moment,
26:23
and the the big kind of present tense news story
26:27
that she looks at is Filando Castile, who was following
26:33
the n r A guidelines for how to inform an
26:36
officer you are legally carrying a gun like to the
26:40
t like it's there's a handbook where they tell you
26:43
how to do this in the n r A. He
26:46
did that and was shot and killed by the cop
26:48
following the letter of the law. And he was killed
26:51
for it. And this was the perfect opportunity for an
26:54
organization that is so horny for conflict and to be
26:58
like victimized, to create a martyr who they could get behind.
27:02
And they were completely silent. They wanted no part of
27:07
backing Filando Castile. Meanwhile, you know, in the nineties the
27:12
Branch Davidians were raided by federal agents, and you know
27:17
members of that cult murdered federal agents. That n r
27:20
A back to them, you know, the Ruby Ridge saying
27:23
um militia movements saying they back people who murder federal
27:30
agents when they are white. And her argument is that
27:36
this is not an accident. The Second Amendment from the
27:39
start was designed to arm white people against potential slave uprisings.
27:46
And you know, when they were writing the amendments, the
27:50
Southern states didn't think that the federal government would help
27:56
them fight off a slave revolt with the federal army.
28:01
And so that's why they created, at least partially why
28:05
they created this second Amendment that has the everybody should
28:08
have guns and everybody should be able to form a militia,
28:12
so that they basically had the backing of the federal
28:15
government to form uh their own military. Um. And that
28:20
was like James Madison and all the Bridgingians and ship.
28:22
But then you know, they obviously heavily implied in that
28:27
is that it's only it only applies to white people. Um.
28:32
And throughout the history of the country, white armed rebellion
28:36
has been treated with a slap on the wrist like
28:38
the Whiskey rebellion, while black armed rebellion or self defense
28:44
has been treated with terror and state sanctioned murder or
28:49
dropping bombs on the whole neighborhood. Yeah, that's she didn't
28:55
talk about this in the interview that I listened to,
28:57
but the details of the Tulsa A race masacre, the
29:02
entire thing kicked off when black residents of Tulsa showed
29:05
up at a prison with guns to protect a teenager
29:09
from a lynch mob, and a shot was fired. Nobody
29:12
knows by who, but the very idea of a black
29:16
person firing a shot stirred the mob to the organized
29:21
and systematic and genocidal violence that they enacted like the
29:26
next morning. It's so interesting because, like you know, Jim
29:30
Crow was established soon after the end of the Civil War,
29:35
I mean, the idea of segregation in a two tiered system,
29:38
you know, the failed reconstruction and all that. Then we
29:42
have a hundred more years of Jim Crow, and you
29:45
wonder why, like, like our country is so racist, why
29:50
didn't they just amend the Second Amendment, Like you would
29:54
expect them to either rein in or amend or change
29:58
the sec An Amendment or just minute it altogether, because
30:00
oh my god, what if black people got weapons, you know,
30:03
just to cover their asses. But instead it was like,
30:05
now they'll just let everyone fight one another, and we're
30:08
not going to stop white mobs and everyone can defend
30:11
themselves except for if you're black. This this book sounds amazing,
30:16
and I'm sure she goes into the black Panthers and
30:19
of course, yeah, yeah, totally She goes deep into that
30:22
and how their whole stated purpose was arming themselves so
30:27
that they could police the police, because shockingly, the police
30:32
state sanctioned murder of black people goes back throughout history
30:37
to when the police were founded as like slave patrols,
30:41
and the way that they treated that was by executing
30:47
their leaders and killing people and arresting people. I mean,
30:52
there's so many books like this about so many specific things.
30:55
I just like essentially boiled down to like some big
30:57
American idea with an asterisk next to it that's this
30:59
term terms and conditions apply, right, just so you know,
31:03
like if for to some people, and yeah, to even
31:06
look at like, yeah, it's your point, Francisco, Like you
31:09
think if they could take it off the table, God damn,
31:13
black people won't have guns. We don't have to worry
31:15
about that. Ship. But there's something about the racism in
31:18
this country that's so shortsighted and just reactionary without like
31:22
really considering it and then like down the road and
31:24
be like, oh yeah, what was that about. Wait that
31:26
was race? Oh yeah, we didn't look It's it's been
31:29
so many years now and it's so ingrained in the culture,
31:31
and we're not really interested in again parsing through that
31:34
and understanding the motivations behind having amendments like this or
31:37
the perceived rights of things like this. But yeah, it's
31:42
just it's yeah, even liberals, like you're saying Jack initially
31:46
that that you know, they consider this untouchable, like well,
31:49
you know, in Second Amendment rights people and you know,
31:51
and it's just it's seen as such a quote unquote
31:55
cultural almost religious, almost put in the same category, you know,
31:59
as one who's pro life on religious grounds, and that's
32:02
obviously a separate bullshit issue. Um, but like this is
32:07
sort of scene as that is super untouchable because liberals
32:09
also planned to the idea that our founding fathers were
32:12
good and that they were not racist, and yeah, maybe
32:15
they owned slaves, but they were good people and everybody
32:17
owned slaves and that's what the exactly what they took
32:20
care of. But it's like no, and it's okay, we're
32:24
just we're given speaking of you guys asked about myths
32:27
on this show all the time, and you know, the
32:29
founding myth that like this country is was founded by
32:34
good people and on good terms. It's like, no, we
32:37
have to We're told so many myths that uphold that,
32:41
and it feels, it does feel scary to unravel and
32:45
begin to unravel those myths that we're told, you know,
32:47
Polka Hunt is totally consented to being John Smith child brat,
32:51
you know, that kind of crap that like, But it's
32:54
okay if we can replace it with like new ideas,
32:57
and we can replace it with like better aspirations. I mean,
33:00
I think you know, Obama had words the best words, uh,
33:07
he really did, and like I think he began to
33:10
carve out and I wish we could have someone who
33:13
has actually made good on his promises, you know, to
33:16
carve out this idea that we're still constructing this American dream.
33:20
And it is why a lot of civil rights organizers
33:23
and activists call for what they they say they name
33:26
a third reconstruction, the second reconstruction being the civil rights movement,
33:29
the first reconstruction being a failed attempt. But you know,
33:33
of of equality and we still have to strive for that.
33:36
But and it's okay, we can let go of these
33:38
old myths, but not if liberals keep on conflating this ship,
33:42
which is so clearly racist, with some kind of religious
33:45
or foundational untouchable principle of American nous that we can't
33:51
actually reform. Yeah, and I think it's and then I
33:55
think more people have to begin to see that unwillingness
33:58
as like an absolute redline in terms of not wanting
34:01
to vote for someone to support someone like that, because
34:03
you're like, we need representatives who are gonna look with
34:07
a sober eye at our history, see where we came
34:09
from to understand where we need to go. Because if
34:12
you're already playing with this like obscure, oh, sanitized version,
34:17
you can never solve a problem. It's like looking at
34:19
you have a fucking X ray and ship and it's
34:22
like some crayon drawing and you're like, yeah, it looks
34:24
like that one red spot on the bone should go.
34:27
And you're like, I wish this were a real X
34:29
ray so you could actually see what you're looking at
34:31
inside my chest where it is specifically what organs. It's
34:35
damaging because this other version of me like, yeah, this
34:38
bad we should cut it out. Isn't gonna get to
34:41
the point and isn't going to create the sort of
34:42
forward momentum in progress that we're seeking. And yeah, it's
34:46
it's it is a hard thing, and we do need
34:49
to keep looking at it to your point of saying like, yeah,
34:51
we don't have to just talk about how fucked up
34:53
everything is. You can pivot to that and say, yeah,
34:56
that was the world as it was, and this is
34:58
the world as it should be. And these are the
35:00
people who were moving to try and take our country
35:02
and our society to the world as it should be.
35:05
And this is what we're still building on. See, we
35:07
want to build on this momentum rather than like yeah,
35:10
thanks John Adams, sick bro, and then just leaving it there. Yeah,
35:15
this argument and this kind of connecting of the Second
35:19
Amendment to systemic white supremacy, just the anger and vitriol
35:26
and fear tied up in the Second Amendment argument and
35:30
guns rights people never fully made sense to me. It
35:33
was always I was always picturing when they said, like
35:36
they're gonna come for our guns, and like that I
35:38
need my guns to like protect my family. They always
35:41
talk about like the government coming for your guns, and
35:44
it's like, what are you talking about, Like that's not
35:46
even a thing that we have in our history. But
35:49
I think when you connect it to the white supremacy,
35:53
the fact that you know, we've talked before on the
35:55
show about the fact that they know white supremacy is
35:59
a lie. Like on some level, they know that they
36:02
know they live on a graveyard of horrific abuses that
36:05
propped them up to wherever they exist, and that black
36:09
Americans have every right to demand retribution and they know
36:12
that this is this lie. That every American has the
36:17
right to own guns is a massive advantage they have,
36:21
and that's why they're obsessed with stories about how crime
36:24
ridden cities are so that they can like justify their fear.
36:28
Like when when you ask people who watch Fox News
36:32
what they think a city is, like, it's it's so
36:37
outside the bounds of reality. They think it's odd that
36:40
HBO show, yes, they did, playing out in a Starbucks.
36:43
That's why, and that's why they're so outraged anytime anyone
36:47
criticizes police violence. But it's why they are so like
36:52
there's all that fear, all those lies, all that hatred,
36:56
like holding the idea of white supremacy in their mind
37:00
and along with some part of them that has seen
37:03
that that ship is not true like them, they're trying
37:06
to hold those together, and that creates cognitive dissonance, It
37:09
creates angry, It creates fear, and it just really the
37:12
the image. As I was like kind of listening to
37:15
her interview with Terry Gross's substitute teacher, I forget that
37:19
David Davy beyond Something's like Terry Gross is sub and
37:24
then like reading up on this book, the thing that
37:27
kept popping into my head is that suburban St. Louis
37:30
couple who when Black Lives Matter protesters were walking past
37:35
their home, they stood on their front lawn holding their
37:40
guns and like waving them at them, like kind of
37:42
waving their right to own guns as a privilege in
37:45
the face of black protesters who would be killed on
37:51
site for holding guns that openly like just being like,
37:55
this is our advantage. Fuck you Like that is her
38:02
whole argument really kind of ties a lot of things
38:05
together for me. Yeah, go beyond that. I mean, the
38:08
entire Trump presidency is an emblem and homage to white supremacy,
38:15
to the idea that if you're rich and wide enough
38:19
and a dude, you can get away with anything. Look
38:23
at January six. I always talk about this. I'm just like, man,
38:26
I've Marshawn Washington many times. I would be murdered. Just
38:33
how close would I have gotten to breaking a window
38:38
the Capitol steps. Had we been you know, work like
38:44
protesting a war, uh, protesting the International Monetary Fund, protesting
38:50
police murder like or anything. It's just so like when
38:56
we I feel like, as a white person watching the
39:00
January six like every white person, I don't know, I
39:04
am half white, and I so I kind of understand this,
39:07
but like must have been looking at and me being like, man,
39:11
white privilege really is kind of a thing, huh, because
39:15
you know people of color in this country where like
39:17
white privilege is absolutely look at that. Look at that, yeah,
39:22
look at there's no accountability for that. A few months later,
39:26
absolutely and so disheartening to witness too, as a black person,
39:30
been Asian person living in this country in the same life,
39:33
to see they can fucking go and do that because
39:35
they're upset that Trump isn't president. Meanwhile, we're looking at
39:39
real fucked up outcomes for unarmed people, and you know,
39:44
it's like everybody knows. I'm like, no one's foolish enough
39:46
to come armed to something like that. As a person,
39:49
the game is just completely different, and the sad thing
39:51
is too, like on the on the face of it,
39:53
in history, marginalized people have more of a reason to
39:57
be like, no, I need these guns, man. Have you
40:00
in what they do to us? Have you seen what
40:01
they do to us? Oh? Hell no? And how are
40:04
you gonna how are we going to move forward at all?
40:06
When we're just kind of looking at these small issue
40:08
or not that this is a small issue, but we're
40:10
not really looking at changing real lived outcomes for people
40:13
and just thinking like, well, maybe if the guns are gone,
40:15
that could be something. No, how about you give people support,
40:18
how about you give them options? How about give them
40:20
upboard mobility, because I'm sure most people would prefer that
40:23
than to live in a you know, in a cycle
40:26
of fear and violence and anger. Uh, and would much
40:29
rather be in a place of abundance on some level
40:31
or just to have some relief. That's why it's so
40:35
upsetting things, you know, instances like Philando Castile, because you're
40:39
absolutely right that unarmed black people get gunned down all
40:43
the time, and so what is too why not just
40:47
be armed? They get gunned down by vigilantes, um self
40:51
proclaimed vigilantes. Now I'm blinking on his name, but the
40:54
gentleman he was killed, the young kid who was killed
40:56
last year. No, right, before um, George Lloyd, Um, I'm
41:01
at avery. Yeah, I'm at avery, and former police officers
41:06
and then most recently another young But it's like every
41:10
time the conversation if someone had a gun, the internet
41:13
conversation is oh, but he had a gun, but he
41:16
had a gun. Oh his hands were up, but he
41:18
had a gun. Then kill him on site. That's not allowed.
41:21
That's not depending again, terms and conditions apply. Like it's
41:25
the number one tool for white supremacy is this lie
41:30
and being able to just enforce this lie within sort
41:33
of the mainstream culture that you know, well, really only
41:37
white people are allowed to have guns, like and if
41:40
somebody who isn't white has a gun, the police will
41:44
murder them on site like that. That's unbelievable. And like
41:49
the fact that it's not set out loud like constantly
41:51
like that, that is the It's a shocking, like dystopian
41:57
reality that I just feel like people don't say Asian
42:02
American gun ownership soaring through the roof. I do believe
42:05
in gun control except for Asian elders. I think we
42:11
should arm Asian aunties and uncles with a R fifteen.
42:15
That's it. They're the only ones. Police no guns. Everyone
42:19
else no guns, but Asian aunties and uncles we arm them.
42:22
They patrol. Yeah, and they tell you obviously, like how
42:27
to choose a good watermelon, and you know, how to
42:31
stay out, how to stay out of the sun. Very
42:33
very disciplined. On the triggers. That's a bust. They're gun
42:35
for anything. They're like, you know, I'm gonna hit you
42:38
with it real quick first. Yeah, oh no, no, I'm
42:39
not gonna get loaded. I will smack you over the
42:42
head with this. It's a big bat. That's who I
42:45
believe in army. I'm like with their little baskets, they
42:48
can carry them in the little front portion of it.
42:50
I'm about that. There we go. All right, let's take
42:53
a quick break and we'll be right back. And we're
43:05
back and Anthony Fauci, bye bye. You're canceled, bro. They
43:12
foyed thousands of his emails from during the pandemic. You know,
43:17
I think everybody was hoping to find the goods on
43:21
what was really going on behind the scenes as he was,
43:25
you know, dismantling the Trump administration from the inside. And
43:30
the spiciest nugget that's being used as a pool quote
43:33
is where he said, all is well, despite some crazy
43:37
people in this world. Oh shit out of control, so problematic.
43:47
I mean, first of all, we don't use crazy anymore.
43:51
That is just wildly both misogynistic and it just it's
43:56
a bigoted phrase. Unbelievable. So this was actually an email
44:01
response to someone who said they were worried about all
44:04
the people who are threatening his life in the last
44:06
of his family, so it's hard to even interpret it
44:09
as being directed at Trump. The The email to him
44:13
was like, I saw some news. Hope it's fake that
44:16
you're being attacked by some people. Hope you are well
44:18
under such an irrational situation. He responded, thank you for
44:22
your kind note. All as well, despite some crazy people
44:24
in the world. So what a funk? What about the
44:26
next thing? What about the next thing? Come on, has
44:28
got to be more than that. Give us the T,
44:32
give us the T. I know there's tea. I've heard
44:36
of tea. So I will say this, the people who
44:40
the Q people have not had a chance to fully
44:43
digest all of the emails. I'm sure they're going to
44:47
find some secret codes in there to know what was
44:51
really going on. But that is like, that's it, man,
44:57
he is really he's a professional doctor. Yeah, not a comedian, right,
45:04
He's a guy in a in a very tough position
45:07
where he has people literally trying to murder him while
45:10
he tries to make sure that a few people as
45:12
possible die from a global pandemic. The his there, it's
45:18
very consistent between what you see in the emails and
45:22
what you saw in press conferences. The only difference is
45:26
that he's he seems like very cautious and like wary
45:30
of public perception in a way that I could see
45:33
people being like, oh, he's just all about like the press,
45:36
and but that is in fact, like from day one,
45:41
people are like, okay, so this is how you lead
45:43
during a global pandemic. You have to be steady, you
45:47
have to be understated. Uh. And he saw that the
45:51
president wasn't doing that, and so like, I'm guessing that's
45:55
why he was so careful about, you know, controlling them
46:00
that was put out there about him, because he recognized
46:04
probably that he was the only voice of reason for
46:07
for the country, right, Yeah, he was. He was really
46:11
the only rational person who was in the room with
46:15
a president surrounded by sycophants. So I mean, you know,
46:19
he's he's trying to be as rational and as forthcoming
46:24
as he can be given his current situation, and I'm
46:27
showing some over He's like, dude, I'm not saying anything
46:30
an official email where someone can foya this and like
46:33
reveal anything remotely and what my personal thoughts are outside
46:36
of my you know position. I don't think this like
46:40
proves that he is like that, this is actually how
46:43
he is. It's just when you foy a Republican or
46:47
conservative leader, it's like lifting up a rock with just
46:51
thousands of disgusting bugs and like a smushed cat and
46:55
a band of drugs and a murder weapon underneath it.
46:59
Like with Faucy, you get vaguely dismissive language about people
47:03
who are threatening the lives of his family. Get a
47:06
fucking life, Fauci, you're such a dork. But I'm sure
47:10
like there are some Democrats to that. They're just they're
47:12
just they're good at their rock hiding, you know what
47:14
I mean, the same way I think we're just like
47:17
I think with some Republicans you don't even need a
47:18
foil of them because they say everything out loud. No, yeah,
47:22
you just need to have a camera there whenever they're
47:24
doing like, uh, you know, one of those like one
47:27
thousand dollars a plate dinners for like the American uh
47:32
Liberty Coalition or whatever, you know, and then they just
47:35
go like everyone actually liked slavery? Is this thing on? Hello?
47:40
Is this? Yeah? Slavery was fun, and you're just like
47:45
this is being taped, dude, whoa, whoa. I thought, okay,
47:48
I thought we're all cool here. No. Yeah, oh so
47:51
now you're gonna cancel me for having, you know, neo colonial,
47:56
neo confederate fucking sentiments. Well, enjoy the comedic stylings of
48:03
Ellie Kepper. Sorry alright, Peter a real one. Yeah, alright,
48:11
So well, she was she nineteen when she went to
48:13
weird that she looks like a child. I was just
48:17
I was being I saw the headline too, and I
48:20
was like, oh ship. But then I was like you
48:21
always have to do the thing and be like, what
48:23
the fund did you do when you were nineteen? Right exactly? Yeah.
48:26
I'll tell you what I I wasn't able to do
48:29
was win any fucking beauty patchet because I am not
48:33
an attractive man. I went to one debutante ball and
48:38
I embarrassed my high school girlfriend because I got so high.
48:42
I was stinking in there and this was like uptight, Like,
48:46
you know, this is like the fucking debut tomball ish it.
48:49
I tried my best. I smoked with a huge, hefty
48:52
garbage bag over my my torso and I smoked outside.
48:56
I did Yeah, I did my best, babe. Yeah you
49:01
hot box the trash bag and you still got in trouble. Yeah, Like,
49:04
you're right. I shouldn't have blown the smoke in the bag.
49:06
That was an idea didn't stick onto my wool suit.
49:11
I never went to a Debutan ball, but I learned
49:14
everything I needed to from the uh, from that borat
49:17
thing and a couple of magazine articles just how bad
49:21
these dad's, I mean, how much they want to suck
49:25
their daughters. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a there's a
49:28
lot of kind of like incestual dad energy, very a
49:32
lot of like porn hub title energy. You know, let
49:36
a butterfly kisses energy as well. Yeah, it is, Uh,
49:40
it's real gross. I only know of debutant balls through
49:43
like TV and movies. You know, I'm not That's what
49:47
I thought. It was like a dance, not like this
49:48
thing where like I would be the only like or
49:50
one of three like non white people there. Yeah, it's
49:54
like a cattle call for like single ladies. Is that it?
49:57
It's like this is them, this is the adult version
50:01
of this child now for for Southern wasps, former slave
50:08
owners or whatever. Yeah, yeah, you know the same thing.
50:11
But yeah, it's like it does very much feel. It
50:15
feels very gross to uh, you know, showcase your your
50:19
hot daughter. But but I don't. I don't really blame
50:24
Ellie Kemper for the founding of it. I do just
50:27
think it's funny because it was like one of those
50:29
cancelations online that you're just like, yeah, sure, I'm not
50:33
even gonna read it. Yeah, fucker, I have no reason
50:38
to hate this person. But I was like, yeah, we haven't.
50:40
We haven't done her yet. She should be canceled. Not
50:43
even sure? Why do I want to find out? To
50:46
play this on the ingram Angle tonight, they're like this
50:48
is how the liberals talk. Yeah, you see, we haven't
50:51
done her yet. What do they mean? Did she come
50:56
out when she was like? Yo, that was an l
50:57
you know, honestly, I shouldn't have that was not I would.
51:02
I would strong if she listens to this podcast, which
51:07
I'm sure she does. I want to strongly advise her
51:10
to just pretend none of this ever happened and move
51:13
on because any apology so that's just another news cycle. Baby,
51:18
that's just gonna keep it going. I say, just live
51:22
your life, you know, keeping the impossible Kimmy Schmidt, is
51:27
that what it's called? Yea, is she impossible? No, she's ubreakable. Yeah,
51:33
continue being unbreakable. And you know, do you because I
51:37
am certain that you did not found the KKK wall right,
51:45
This is the beginning into realizing she's some kind of
51:47
time traveler. Yeah, dude, look at this photo of like
51:51
the Confederacy leaders and their wives. It's all Ellie Kimpers.
51:55
She's married to five different Stonewall Jackson and Jack Nicholson.
52:00
They're You're just like, is this the shining? What the fuck?
52:03
She was married to General Braxton Bragg. Fox News sent
52:08
their equivalent of a U up text to her. By
52:11
media critics condemned left leaning outlets Ellie kemper On Slot
52:15
over ties to racist ball. Uh so they like put
52:18
out an opinion piece being like you leave this nice
52:20
girl alone. Yeah, yeah, I mean ties to racist ball.
52:24
Like I feel like that's like anything anyone's ever, like
52:26
anyone who existed from any time that you probably participated
52:32
in something with origins and terrible racism. I feel like,
52:35
if you're white, and not even just in the South,
52:38
like if you're just white and lived in a suburb,
52:42
you definitely participated in some sort of clan adjacent event.
52:48
You didn't know that, you're you know you you just
52:51
thought this was the annual k K R o q
52:55
uh Weenie roast, and you're like, every every year we
52:59
eat hot dogs and listen to alternative music from the nineties.
53:02
I didn't know the clan had anything to do with it,
53:05
you know they did. Yeah, Kevin and Bean, Yeah, big
53:10
big clans cans, Kevin Dude, Slugo from K Rock Jet Fish.
53:16
I mean, come on, these guys were Confederate generals too.
53:18
There's there's three K's and Striker. You know, I just
53:24
love I love K Rock is secretly KKK Rock. This
53:30
is very very specific Los Angeles audience. But it's a
53:34
it's a great joke. All right, Let's talk about Europeans.
53:38
I've been thinking about them. Finally. There such an affectionate people.
53:44
Can they kiss on the cheek to say hi? Yeah?
53:47
That's basically like some porno right in America, We're like,
53:53
what the yeah is this? Like it's so funny when
53:56
you see Americans like meet European for the first time
53:59
and like they go, oh really okay, yeah they kiss
54:03
on the cheek and are we having sex now because
54:07
the deal or someone has like a joke like I
54:11
need a cigarette after that, like really hugged somebody a
54:14
fucking creep. But yeah, like this whole thing, like you know,
54:17
in America, we have to just screwed up a sense
54:19
of like physical intimacy, like especially you know between bros.
54:22
You know, so like switching to the fist bump. I
54:25
think it was a really easy alternative to show perfection
54:27
as a greeting in this country, especially when we're already
54:29
a stepdad. And Europe, on the other hand, is a
54:33
place the love flows. The kisses and hugs are ingrained
54:36
in the culture, and that's why at the beginning of
54:39
the lockdowns, I remember like officials in Italy were saying
54:42
stay apart today, to embrace each other more warmly tomorrow,
54:46
because you want to get in, you want to give
54:48
kisses and things like that. And that's how I agree
54:52
with that's how I agree with strangers putting our eyes
54:55
next to each other and so funny. So as the
55:02
lockdown looses, though, and vaccinations increase, people are wondering, like
55:05
what to do now in Europe? Like is there an
55:07
in between on the way back to full blown vessels?
55:11
And it seems like everyone's been trying things, you know,
55:14
right now in Italy they're trying a new thing, which
55:16
is a breast bump. Now not like across the board,
55:19
but things people have noticed to some have some kind
55:21
of contact work. Quote, two people greeting each other essentially
55:24
try to touch hearts with their heads turned as far
55:28
away from each other as possible. God, I love the
55:31
the I love the horny nous of the modern European
55:34
Like they just are just like we have to do
55:36
skin on skin, like let me feel that heartbeat? Fun.
55:39
I love that. That sounds great to me. I just
55:42
like how it looks though, Like if you saw people
55:44
doing that, they're like, yo, do they fucking hate each other? Yeah? Yeah,
55:47
it's turned it's probably like yeah yeah yeah, like about
55:51
the fight, like the right, that's very schoolyard. Yeah, like
55:59
talking to the can due shoulder, talking to you shoulders,
56:03
but you want to find out. Yeah, they're speaking in
56:06
French though, so you're like, I think they're in love,
56:09
but either that or they're gonna kill each other. Are
56:12
they gonna be divorced? This? But in France they have
56:16
This is again, this is from the Daily Beast. They
56:18
were saying that they've gone for quote, a more elegant
56:20
bicet bump, which minimizes contact and the chance that someone
56:24
might accidentally forget and plant a fatal smooch. So I'm
56:27
guessing you're doing like, oh oh yeah, arms straight like
56:31
bang yeah, or or like the side of your arm
56:35
and the side of their arm, like you're leaning in
56:37
for a kiss, but you don't do the kiss, yeah,
56:39
or like do and does anyone do like a shoulder
56:41
to shoulder with your heads? Yeah? Right, like you know
56:45
what I mean? You know, I I'm glad that they're
56:48
trying to like do a life hack for COVID, you know, greetings,
56:52
But I mean, what about like high fives? Is that
56:56
I think because it looks like what the idiots who
56:58
with the accents you when they invade their country on tours,
57:02
like the tourism tours. Yeah, that's like a fucking top gun,
57:05
no funk that we have do our ship properly. We're
57:09
gonna be a chess bump, right. It sounds awkward as hell,
57:12
but I would say considering that Jack and almost made
57:14
out when we saw each other for the first time
57:16
in physical space after a year, Like I get it,
57:19
you know what I mean, Like sometimes you need to
57:20
be like yo, we were here. Physical contact is important
57:25
not just between Miles and I, but as a as
57:29
a society, we we need that ship. And I think
57:32
that's true. If we had more of a culture of
57:35
kissing and hugging when we saw each other, like maybe
57:39
we'd have like fifty percent less mass shootings. Yeahs, and
57:43
people just like greeted each other with like affection or
57:47
like this like despair pit of masculinity where you're a
57:51
completely rendered inert like innationally around other people because like
57:55
I cannot do this. I should just go lift weights
57:58
or I must shake hands, say sup from you see
58:02
like in other countries how affectionate men are with each other,
58:05
and you immediately see a different sort of quality or
58:08
level to that like these friendships or the bonds than
58:11
you do when like dudes are just like throwing beer
58:14
cans at a wall, or some ship men have like
58:17
an internal combustion engine that converts every emotion into anger. Yeah, yeah,
58:25
I love that. We really are like just so repressed.
58:28
We're basically a steam engine. Like, bro, yeah, you become
58:35
the little engine that should Yeah. So, like the other
58:41
things that they're saying, like, look, we get that people
58:43
are getting vaccinated and numbers are beginning to stabilize, but
58:46
still like, please exercise a monicum with caution because we're
58:49
still trying to figure out like all of the nuances
58:51
of even transmission with vaccinated people and you know, knowing
58:54
what to do, especially with the elderly. So this one
58:57
expert said that vaccinated grandparents hug are unvaccinated grandchildren from
59:02
the back. You know. He suggests they hold their breath
59:07
from it. But you know, I want to make it.
59:11
I want to make it a little bit. Yeah. The
59:14
words they use was hit it from behind the back,
59:17
hold your breath stank so bad. But like but he said,
59:22
hold your breath begin because it's all about the exhalations.
59:25
And this one Italian expert strongly warns against what they
59:28
call the aunt's kiss, which is a full lipped cheek
59:31
plant as they say, because again you're leaving, there could
59:34
be saliva left. You might be touching your that and
59:37
then touch your mouth or touch your eye or something
59:39
like that. So it's you know, it's it's, it's, it's
59:42
it's it's a little bit tough, and I get it.
59:44
You know, my heart goes out. But being being from
59:47
two cultures that are famously not very affectionate, I've found
59:49
it like, yeah, I have no problem like not being affectionate.
59:55
When I greet people. I like to hug. That's what
59:57
else I like to do. And I'll admit I I
1:00:00
definitely one of those guys who like went to Europe
1:00:02
and someone greeted me with the cheek kiss and I
1:00:06
spent most of the time like I had a like
1:00:08
a meltdown, just like I don't know where to go,
1:00:11
and then I just walked away. The masculinity challenge, I
1:00:14
ever thought about this shot in your pants. Yeah, there's
1:00:21
this other thing though, too, like because then there's such
1:00:23
a culture of predatory men and you know, consent culture
1:00:26
not existing here that like even hugging you want to
1:00:29
be like is that cool? Because I like there's a
1:00:32
five and ten chance that I'm some fucked up evil person.
1:00:37
Like there's like, you know, there is kind of a
1:00:41
middle ground somewhere where it's like even before the pandemic,
1:00:44
I stopped hugging people as much because I used to
1:00:47
just like that was just how I greeted people. And then, uh,
1:00:51
you know you kind of realized that, like, well, not
1:00:53
everybody is like into hugs, and I'm not going to
1:00:57
force that on anyone. That's why you like, I think
1:00:59
they do things like I'm a hug Are you a hugger? Yeah,
1:01:02
I'm a hugger, and then they're like alright now, yeah,
1:01:11
but you know, I would love to be in a
1:01:13
culture where we all just made out all the time.
1:01:15
So that's sick too. Yeah, I mean there's yeah, we
1:01:18
we've talked before how they're should do that just started
1:01:21
bringing just like bros doing cheek to cheek kisses. Now
1:01:24
you know what I mean to see if we could
1:01:26
start a movement, Yeah, see if it will catch on
1:01:29
obviously being like yo or you know, if you're vaccinated
1:01:33
right well, which is the thing that they're also writing
1:01:35
in this article that like there are still people who
1:01:38
acting like it twenty nineteen, but it's usually like immediately
1:01:41
followed with like or prefaced with like unvaccinated. Yeah, bring
1:01:45
it on in it, that's what I say, see your cars.
1:01:53
But yeah, I mean that there's cuddle parties that have
1:01:55
like started becoming a thing because we lack the ability
1:01:59
to like pre pandemic rights. Yeah, yeah, pretty pandemic. But
1:02:03
like that's although I know some people who are like, yeah, man,
1:02:07
I've been going to like raves the whole time. I
1:02:10
actually met somebody at a thing who like got to
1:02:13
drinks in and was like, yeah, I've been going to
1:02:15
like a couple of raves, like and it was pretty wild.
1:02:18
But like, you know, people don't give them. Yeah, my
1:02:24
grandma things things were bad, but but they want us
1:02:28
to be here, so here we are. We got for them,
1:02:32
for them, I rave for them. But like back in
1:02:36
the day, I feel like so much of like Madmen
1:02:39
culture of people just having like irresponsible workplace affairs, and
1:02:44
partially because they were like drinking at lunchtime, but also
1:02:48
you know, like that's how people used to get their
1:02:52
skin to skin, and you know, they it's like a
1:02:55
human need that we just like don't acknowledge at all. Yeah,
1:02:59
I mean, but you know, the Italians also probably cheat
1:03:02
a lot too with their secretaries. I feel like we
1:03:05
we definitely are a culture that like does not show
1:03:10
affection on the outside, and then uh, like affection is
1:03:14
just seen as something God doesn't want you to do.
1:03:19
At least that's like culture. So it's like, no, you know,
1:03:23
if you do that, Jesus Christ, So just make sure
1:03:25
you do it in secret, and uh, you know, fucking
1:03:29
orange Europe on vacation or in Europe on vacation at
1:03:31
a hostel. You know, if it happens, it happens. Come on, guys,
1:03:34
just be less uh creepy and misogynistic like men from Europe. Yeah, exactly,
1:03:41
the whole continent. All right, that's gonna do it for
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