There’s more news and less comprehension today than any historical period that didn’t involve literal witch trials, and trying to stay on top of it all can feel like playing a game of telephone with 30 people, except everyone’s speaking at the same time and like a third of them are openly racist for some reason. From Cracked co-founder Jack O’Brien, THE DAILY ZEITGEIST is stepping into that fray with some of the funniest and smartest comedic and journalistic minds around. Jack and co-host Miles Gray spend up to an hour every weekday sorting through the events and stories driving the headlines, to help you find the signal in the noise, with a few laughs thrown in for free.
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-the-daily-zeitgeist-28516718/
episode 1: Venmo Money Venmo Problems, Prime Union Busting 4.12.21
In episode 855, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Fizaa Dosani to discuss how to convince Republicans to get vaccinated, more Matt Gaetz updates, the capital police investigation, Amazon workers voting on unions, and more!
FOOTNOTES:
- America may be close to hitting a vaccine wall
- Gaetz Paid Accused Sex Trafficker, Who Then Venmo’d Teen
- Nameless Mass Of Women From Gaetz’s Office Vouch For His Professionalism
- Second staffer for Matt Gaetz has...
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Speaker 1
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one eighty, episode
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one of Day one eighty. We did it a production
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of I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we
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take a deep dive into America's share consciousness. Used to
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be from more of a leftist perspective, but now that
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it's episode one, season one eighty, we're going full right wing.
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Baby motherfucker. It's Monday, April tenth one. My name is
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Jack O'Brien a K. Please check this box and also
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this one to all capsule screaming at you and they
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are all yellow. Uh. That is courtesy and Christie Amapucci
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man in reference to the NRCCS fundraising tactics. And I'm
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thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
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Mr Miles Gray. That's right, it's Miles Gray a k
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g MX. You know from the hit single to Tough
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Rider's Anthem from his debut album It's Dark and the
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Valley Is Hot. Rest in peace to dark man X
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Earl Simmons d m X. That yeah, it's just awful. Awful.
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Addiction is terrible thing. And please check in on everybody
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you know, just everybody, no matter what. It's always good
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to just know where the people you love and care
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about her at so yeah, please check in and rest
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in peace, please R I P D m X and
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we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat. Hilarious,
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the talented. There's a sun. I'm thrilled to be here,
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quite frankly. And you you're so chipper today. You were
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saying before Mike before we got on Mike here, like
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I'm so chip around about what's going on with me?
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Chipper Jones. Yeah, I just woke up on the right
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side of the bed, Miles. It was we like to
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hear that on this show, the right side, not the
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left side, thank you, sir. I'm telling you. I was
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like doing pleas and ship like, why what's going on
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with you? Feeling? You just you're coming out of like
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a funk. You you you just always on top of
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the world, Like what what's the secret? What hap pretty moody?
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So maybe I'm sort of coming out of h something.
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You know, this is the high like it's a good day. Yeah,
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I love it. I love it. Please keep it past
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the chips over here, Yes, please pet chips. You get
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Dorritos that you get Frito's, Yeah, especially their chili cheese.
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What about tostitos. Are we is it? What's what's going
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on with this tostitos erasure? Well, you mean for dipping,
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like for scoops, tostito scoops. You know, I prefer like
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a real straight up, like hard fried, quornant tortilla type
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tortilla chip. Yeah, I'm a I'm a heavy uh sauca
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bit I I really like to go in for the sausa.
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So those scoops are the only thing that can satisfy me.
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Sometimes I think you's have a bowl of sauce and
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just exploding in my mouth with every chip that was evocative.
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Apologize and because this is a right wing podcast, what's
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your favorite salsa? What's your hey Jack, what's your favorite
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authentic Mexico salsa? Rag ou bro? Even worse, it's pasta
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you catch up? Oh you know how we do it,
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little Arkansas salsa? Catch up in a reguano. Yeah, old
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El Paso used to be the my ship, but now
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now oh yeah, Pace is the one that right. Yeah,
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New York City is a little too left wing for me,
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so I I go with that Hines catch up made
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in the blue collar Pittsburgh Steelers, that's right. Yeah, that's
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your Primanti's in it, which I Steelers. I used to
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watch before all this politics got brought into our NFL,
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all right, back when Terry Bradshaw was running this show.
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All right, yeah, enough of this ship were that we
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were gonna on season one eighty, we were gonna do
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a one eighty and go right wing. Fizza, You don't
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you didn't deserve any of this. We a knowledge it
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or the confusion. Yeah, but you know what, it makes
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me stronger. Yeah exactly, it didn't kill me. I'm here,
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and you know what, you don't need. You don't need
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more idiot men giving forged in the fires of a
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bad bit from idiot. All right, Fizz, we're gonna get
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to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
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we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things
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we're talking about. We're talking about the new phase of
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vaccine rollout that we are in. Uh, that's probably going
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to be extra infuriating. This one is all about convincing
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reluctant Republicans to get vaccinated and also I will add
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to that, keeping them the fuck away from the rest
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of us. We're gonna do our new favorite we gotta
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we gotta get a sting for this. The gates updates,
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I don't even know. Yeah, I think it's really locked
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the gates, locked the gates. It's lock up the gates,
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up the gates. Uh. We're gonna talk about a capital
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Police inspector general being like, wow, this this was not
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handled well at all. Um. We're gonna talk about Amazon
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defeating a push for workers rights, or, as The New
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York Times put it, amazon workers defeat a at an
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Alabama warehouse. Uh so they so it was the workers.
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It was really a story of the of the people
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rising up to defeat the evil powers of Union. Is
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a shout out to the New York Times. We're gonna
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talk about whether Biden is restarting construction of Trump's wall.
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We're gonna talk about that new Roe v. Wade movie
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that nobody's talking about but that just came out, like
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the one with the My the my pillow guy. Uh
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if he's probably in it. It seems like they were,
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you know, using the conservation of conservative celebrity method of casting.
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When we when we first talked about it at first,
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wasn't like one of the last shots like Mike Lindel,
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like in a fucking bobcat or like a backhoe tearing
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down a planned parenthood or something. Why do I have
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some idea of this happening in some film I don't know.
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It's co directed and stars Nick Loeb, who is the dude. Yeah,
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Sofia have regards X, who like sued her for having
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any autonomy over her own reproductive health. He suited. It
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was like really a new level of right wing. Uh
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So we'll talk about that all of that plenty more,
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But first physical we like to ask our guest, what
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is something from your search history that is revealing about
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who you are or what you're up to. So my um,
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last interesting Google search was cyclothymic disorder versus bipolar because
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maybe that'll explain a little bit why I'm chipper and moody.
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Uh So, I was, um, I've been treated for cyclothymic
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cyclothymia for a while now. And you know there's like
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I'm on Clubhouse now. I don't know if you guys
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are familiar with that app, well, yeah, I mean familiar
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with all the notifications is up here on housing the
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club You're all over that. Mine's always about swizz Beats
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and just blaze talking about n f T s always like, Okay,
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I guess again a marathon. Yeah, I gotta figure out
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how to turn everything into an n f T. But like, um,
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I mean, can I turn cyclothymia into an n f T?
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But um, yeah, I was in like a room about
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like bipolar. Like there's a lot of mental health rooms
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and a lot of the people and there were bipolar,
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and I know that there is sort of a relationship
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between these two conditions, except like luthymia is it's less intense,
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so it's like a it's a more functional bipolar. But
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like I think you there's a lot of mood swings,
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you know. But yeah, I just wanted to come in
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and formed right right right is? And like are those
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have those rooms been? Like are they somewhat orderly? Because
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every other I've been, the ones that start off not
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that they're like by design just turned into like absolute nonsense.
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But there's something about the way the rooms are structure
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and if there's like no real moderation process involved, it
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can very quickly turn into just like utter chaos nonsense.
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But I'm imagining in a space like that there it's
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it's run pretty efficiently, dude. A percent, like the best
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ones are the ones that are, like I mean, if
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there's not like a professional health professional on stage, it's like,
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you know, no one's here to fix anyone. It's literally
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to share our own experiences. Yeah, so that those are
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the best run ones. I think. I feel like those
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are the ones I can like bear to listen to
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the longest, which are like groups of like shared interests
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coming together or communities to just like discuss stuff. Because
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when it turns into like celebrity turn up as like
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the attraction point and then like random people hopping in,
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I'm immediately no, no, no, no no, because yeah, it
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seems like that's that's probably like to me, I've seen
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like the biggest benefit of that as an app is
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like to be able to create those like spaces sort
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of instantly. And the best thing is is if like
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a space feels jankie, you just hit that leave quietly.
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But I love hitting that, like I can't. I don't
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understand how people like do big goodbyes and then hit
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leave quietly, like what are you doing this? I'm off
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this just announce it. Yeah, but I'm digging clubhouse, like
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I'm in all kinds of rooms. I was in a
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d MX memorial room right before this and just someone
09:51
playing tunes. Yeah, like some people were talking about like
09:55
you know, memories of when you know, back in the
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day when he came out and they were playing some songs.
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People were crying. I'll pin you guys, so you can
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get more notifications. When you're in a room on clubhouse,
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are you usually participating? Do you like sometimes just sit
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back and like passively just listen, like how how how often?
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Like what what would the club? Yeah, what's your ratio?
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Like there? Well, I'm pretty good at reading the room.
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And it also depends on like if I have a
10:26
role as a moderator or not, or if I'm like
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the person who started the room. So if I started
10:30
the room, I'd have more more control of the room,
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responsibility for setting the culture of the room um or
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sort of a right to help people that you know,
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not interrupt each other, like I can run it. But
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like you know, sometimes on in other people's rooms, and
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you know, like if they bring me up to stage,
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like I'll usually accept unless it's like some some ridiculous
10:52
title and I'm sure you've seen some like real click
10:54
baity rooms, So then I'll just read the room, read
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the stage, and if they want me to like contribute
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or if I feel like I can, I will. Um,
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I do comedy shows on there a lot, which is
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more of like my lane. The mental health and all
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that stuff is just interests and um, you know, I
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have a lot of curiosity about a lot of things.
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I wish I got into STEM. You know, why did
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I major in English and film? Like what's why? What
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for what? The patriarchy? You know, like I wish so
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I go into those rooms. Fine, I mean I want
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to be more financially literate. So there's so much there. Um,
11:32
there's drama rooms, like there's some ratchet like drama room
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their storylines because it's a community, and it's a relatively
11:41
small community since the absent beta, so there are and
11:45
there's a lot of personalities and not regulation, no regulation,
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it's all self regulation. So and then also people get
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an audience by playing out um drama on stage and
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creating rooms about you know, things that are going on.
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So there's some cloud chasing. There's there's also some multi
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level marketers. So just be careful, don't don't fall into
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a pyramid sky. Yeah yeah, don't let just blaze convince
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you that you can grow your hair back with PlayStation.
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It's a lot facts. What what are the So the
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drama rooms are they like talking about other people who
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are on Clubhouse, Like basically, is that what a drama room? Yeah?
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A lot of times. So there's different pockets and different
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communities in the larger community. So there's some people who
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you know there. They have a tendency to be a
12:38
little more emotional more regularly on stage, and and emotions
12:43
run high, so if someone feels, you know, offended or disrespected,
12:47
they'll sometimes create a spinoff room. And sometimes they will
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use people's first names. They used to use first and last,
12:54
but they changed. I think they said you can't do
12:57
that anymore. And there's the room and then the funk
13:01
what's happening in that room room that's off to the side,
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And then sometimes there's a response to that, and there's
13:08
different spinoffs, like different rooms talking about what happened, and
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everyone will have like a different take and and it's
13:15
just it's pretty wild. And I think I've been so
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active on the app that I know a lot of people,
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so I get pulled up on stage fairly regularly, and
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it's like, you know, sometimes I'm just like I don't
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I don't need to be on this stage because it's like,
13:33
you know, it's I've had my first twenty four hours
13:36
on the app. Someone kind of attacked me, and I
13:40
did not know what was going on. Like I was
13:43
very confused because I was like, I don't know you.
13:45
But yeah, that was sort of my introduction into clubhouse.
13:49
Like someone literally came for me. Like I'd been on
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the app for four hours and I think I was
13:55
in another room and there's already a room. They're like
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the room Like what I'm saying. I was like, how
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first and last name really really? No, No, that didn't happen,
14:07
but you know, like that's what Like, that's that's like intense.
14:12
Can you imagine going on the app and seeing like
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four hundred people in a room that's like, fuck, Phy
14:17
design they don't even know you. They're like, yeah, man,
14:20
designy really should have left the carbonated water alone, man
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bottom shelf ship. Yeah, Like, what what is something you
14:29
think is overrated? Overrated? I was gonna say, or I
14:33
am going to say pre pandemic society, Like I'm excited
14:36
to see where we go after this, but like the
14:38
way things were UM prior to the pandemic. I have
14:42
a lot of issues with UM, and I think a
14:44
lot of those, you know, over the last few years,
14:47
those cracks in the system are not no longer cracks,
14:50
you know, they're big fucking gaping holes. Um. I'm tired
14:54
of the rat race. Yeah, I'm tired of sort of
14:57
like feeling like, you know, self care is not a
15:01
priority because you know, we gotta hustle, hustle, hull house.
15:05
You know, I want to do both. And I hate traffic.
15:08
I don't want to be stuck in l A traffic anymore.
15:10
Like I like this live stream stuff. Yeah, yeah, it
15:14
feels better, feels I mean, it's easy for for the
15:17
people who don't like to drive. It's been a blessing. Yeah,
15:21
some level. How are they going to get people that? Like,
15:24
what is the point going to be when employers are
15:27
just like, yeah, we we wanna have you guys back
15:31
at the office, but like there's no real reason to
15:34
be back at the office, Like how you just proved
15:36
we don't need offices, right, Yeah. I was just talking
15:39
to a friend of mine who's like, God, I would
15:41
love it if they just made this permanent. But he
15:44
doesn't think they're going to and it's just like, why
15:45
why wouldn't you other than just like, I don't know,
15:50
it's Salesforce just abandoned their building in San Francisco. Yeah,
15:54
they're like, yeah, actually we build that big gast thing
15:57
on like the near the Embarcadero. But uh, we're not
15:59
really gonna you said anymore, right, yeah, so what do
16:03
you do with these big phallic symbols of your collective capital? Yeah?
16:07
And you know what's so nuts about here in l
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A Is that we already have so many empty buildings
16:11
from scientology, right, but they're not supposed to admit that
16:16
they're empty. They're like, no, there's they're all millions of
16:19
our followers are in there right now. Just you saw
16:22
through the blinds through a telescope from across the street.
16:25
Oh no, yeah, what you spot that level is where
16:27
we have spider webs doing a lot of the work
16:31
on behalf of the organization. That's why those spider webs
16:33
are all in there. They're they're actually I interviewed a
16:35
woman who uh just kind of did a book on
16:38
a bunch of different American cults, and at one point
16:41
she basically showed up and was like I would like
16:43
to go to church today in like to a scientology thing,
16:48
and they were like, what the funk, Like there's like
16:51
a big scramble behind the scenes. They were like, she
16:53
wants to go to church where we do. So they
16:55
like brought out somebody and they did a individual church
16:59
service for her and there was nobody else in the
17:02
building who wasn't like working there. It was just completely empty.
17:06
But like the whole thing is like putting up this
17:08
facade like it's a place that people actually voluntarily one
17:12
of the and a ton of people are involved. Yeah,
17:16
look at look at him. Go what is something you
17:19
think is underrated? I have two things. The first one
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I think I'll just quickly say, I think DMX prior
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to his passing, I think a lot of artists do
17:30
get you know, they're they're more celebrated posthumously. And I
17:36
just you know, it's I mean, he's an o G.
17:41
You know, he's a pioneer in the game. He's he's
17:44
so talented. How many hits did he have? Like and
17:47
it's unique, yeah, so unique. Put other rappers on as well,
17:53
Like he has a legacy, and I just you know,
17:57
I know, because he had his issues, And I do
18:01
say health issues because that's how addiction should be treated.
18:07
You know, I think this society is very cruel and
18:13
oftentimes when people are in vulnerable situations like that, they
18:18
become the butt of jokes. So you know, now I
18:22
think people are you know, after the guy is so
18:26
sick and then past it's like he's being celebrated. But
18:31
I think he should have been celebrated, you know, is yeah, Yeah,
18:37
he's a he's a. He has a very unique place too,
18:40
because I think alongside just his like very clear charisma
18:45
and things like that, there was something about how he
18:49
projected his personality through Wrapped that transcended a lot of
18:53
the weird I mean, granted, yes, like he he's an
18:57
o g of also the most some of the most
18:59
toxic should I've ever heard a rapper say, like without
19:02
a doubt, like things I'm like laughing now, like oh
19:05
you wrote that down. And but after a while, like
19:10
as you really kind of look at his life and
19:13
its totality, you realize like from childhood he had been
19:17
in and out of like correctional facilities and juvenile detention
19:21
and things like that because he was he was trying
19:23
to survive on his own. If you listen to the
19:26
to lib quality interview he did last year, there are
19:29
moments where he is so open about things he has
19:32
been through that when you really look at it, you're like,
19:35
oh right, everyone just thought, oh he's the dog, like
19:38
oh wow, but truly, like it was a very broken
19:42
human being who had to adopt a much more aggressive
19:46
persona I think, to sort of hide his own pain.
19:49
But within that, like he was able to also express
19:53
which is oddly enough, he needed sort of the language
19:55
of this like hyper masculinity to be emotional, and he
20:00
was able to do that in a way that didn't
20:02
get him. You know, people would oh, he's soft because
20:05
he's crying on stage and ship, but he cried on
20:07
stage and people felt that ship like in the early
20:09
two thousand's um And I think there's a lot to
20:12
be said about, you know, sort of like those elements
20:15
of his work and like, yeah, of course you can.
20:16
There's nobody has a legacy that's completely pristine. But I
20:20
think with with this one, for sure, I think we
20:23
just took him as like an energy vibe rapper. But
20:26
as I kind of reflect more, I'm thinking of like
20:29
the things that actually pulled me in. And I think
20:31
it was how because he was so emotionally transparent on
20:34
top of like just being a great performer. But I
20:36
think it was he was able to be vulnerable in
20:41
a way that like a lot of like rappers really
20:44
weren't at the time. So yeah, he communicated more like
20:47
in the intros, like before he started rapping, just like
20:52
with like so much just energy and pathos and yeah,
20:58
like just that dude spirit, that dude that energy is
21:00
like because I mean there was like the flex culture
21:03
of like yeah, look at me what I got or whatever,
21:05
and like you know, I'm with this, this, that and
21:07
the other woman whatever, But it was a lot more
21:10
about like just dark ship that he was going through.
21:15
It wasn't as much of like the it wasn't as material.
21:18
I mean, later on, I think he started making more
21:19
like party albums and things like are you know track
21:21
slightly different, But at the end of the day, I
21:24
think that's really what I think was for me interesting
21:27
because he's coming up in the time where like hard
21:29
Knock Life or bad like bad Boy is sort of
21:33
dominating the sound, which is all materialism, and then to
21:36
have this guy like screaming in a tank top wearing
21:39
a like chain, like a literally like chain link as
21:42
like a fucking jewelry and you're like, oh, just remember
21:46
an X gonna give it to you. When he was
21:49
when he said fight these tears, I was like, huh
21:52
that's yeah, you want to fight me? Fight these tears?
21:54
Are like wow, Yeah, that's like that's dark, that's that's emotional. Yeah,
22:02
he's an artist. He really is an artist. And like
22:04
in terms of having a pristine legacy, I mean, we're human.
22:07
Humans are no humans perfect, right, But he's he's an artist. Yeah,
22:15
he's artists thrown through and you can just tell from
22:18
the amount of people that showed up when he was
22:21
on his deathbed, Like it's it's weird. You know, we've
22:24
lost a lot of artists before. But it's interesting when
22:27
you can actually like you can begin to measure truly
22:30
like from the output of like people sharing memories or
22:34
like moving into physical space to be near it is
22:37
a huge thing. So, yeah, sad to see him. It's
22:39
only only fifty young, fifty years young. Rest in peace. Yeah,
22:46
it's a it's a tough time for you know, I
22:49
just anecdotally I know people who are passing because of
22:53
suicide and drug drug addiction, like more more than I
22:58
feel like I've ever like kind of just anecdotally, like
23:03
not not like close friends of mine, but close friends
23:05
of close friends, And it just seems like the pandemic
23:09
has taken a toll. And just in general, the fact
23:13
that like physy you said, maybe these are illnesses that
23:17
people aren't willing to treat his illnesses. Um that like
23:21
those things are taking a toll, especially in America, You'll see,
23:24
I mean, and you hope that these are the kinds
23:27
of moments that can hopefully shift move a prod the
23:31
culture to move forward a little bit, to be like
23:35
if if you're gonna, if you're willing to say the
23:37
addiction was a tragedy when they're dead, you have to
23:40
be able to have that same empathy and energy for
23:43
someone from the onset. It can't just be like, oh,
23:46
you're crackhead and then it's over there, because I think
23:50
that I think that was a lot of the discourse,
23:52
especially in the last sort of ten years or so,
23:54
when he really had kind of fallen off, where people
23:57
just like, oh, he's an afterthought, like you know, he
23:58
did that to himself, when when it's so funny because
24:01
most of us know we have examples of addiction in
24:05
that struggle in our lives that we are very much
24:07
invested in the wellness of that person. But with celebrities,
24:11
it's like this thing. It's like, well, fuck you till
24:13
you die, and then when you die, oh what a shame? Right, yeah, yeah, alright,
24:17
let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
24:31
And we're back, and uh, let's talk about this new
24:35
phase of the vaccine so or no AXI. It's one
24:40
of those u X names. Na. Yeah, yeah, give it
24:45
to you. Knock knock it, knock knock. Open up the
24:54
news for real. Uh. One of those exes had a
25:02
report about how it seems like America is about to
25:07
hit a wall on the vaccine front and they're gonna
25:10
hit that wall. We're going to hit that wall before
25:12
we have uh enough for her community, enough people vaccination supply.
25:19
So like we've been up to this point, we've been
25:22
blowing through these vaccines because we're hitting all the people
25:26
who believe in science and want them, and we're about
25:30
to We're starting to see, especially in southern states, uh,
25:34
signs that things are slowing down and the vaccines aren't
25:37
getting into people's arms, and there's what is it the
25:42
people of color acine? Funny that that's the narrative because
25:48
it seems like it's actually the people who are in
25:52
favor of white supremacy. Openly, it seems like it's Republicans,
25:56
Republican leaning, Evangelical Christians, and south It seems like it's
26:02
those specific groups. Republicans are not wanting to get the vaccine,
26:08
not trusting of the vaccine, and that's not shocking. But
26:12
where I guess this is the first time I've heard
26:14
it formulated as like this is the next like this
26:17
is what we're gonna be dealing with for the next
26:18
handful of months. Is a much slower process of trying
26:23
to win people over to get vaccinated or alternately keep
26:29
them the funk out of like places where the rest
26:33
of society is who actually got the vacction. Create a
26:36
country for people who don't believe in science, and then
26:39
let their outcomes play out how they need to know
26:41
what I mean, Just like we say, like, oh, you
26:43
don't believe in climate change, so let's take to people
26:44
who are about to be displaced by climate change. You
26:47
y'all can live there now. And you can do whatever
26:48
the fuck you want. The rest of the world's gonna
26:50
try and be on the same page. And then when
26:53
you and don't ask us for ship, when you realize
26:55
you fucked up and picked the wrong fucking you know
26:57
ideology there and this ship, I was just reading an
27:01
article from I think it's an MPR or some ship
27:03
where they were talking to a Southern Baptist preacher, white
27:06
evangelic like he's you know, like in the white evangelical
27:09
seen in the South, and how a lot of them
27:12
are like a lot of preachers are kind of like,
27:14
I mean, yeah, some of us are not working with it,
27:17
and then there are definitely us who get it, like
27:20
we understand science is real, like because you know, we're
27:22
the ones doing the funerals for people that die. We
27:25
get that there is a cost to this and this
27:27
isn't not this isn't something to be flippant about or
27:30
you know, getting all cocky about. And they said they've
27:33
been really trying to connect the teachings of Christ as
27:37
a way to get people to get vaccines in terms
27:40
of you know, Christ taught us or some of them
27:43
maybe taught ten percent of us that listened that we
27:47
want to look after our neighbors, and that we want
27:50
to do one to others as we want others to
27:52
do one to us. And it's kind of like that
27:56
one's kind of hitting but not really and then you're like, yeah,
27:59
because this is just sort of like ego cover for
28:02
their own wrongdoing. That's also a part a version of
28:06
the church that has managed to take a person who's
28:10
made teaching was like, you don't want to be rich.
28:13
Rich is bad, and been like, Jesus wants you to
28:17
be rich. Jesus give me your god damn money. I
28:21
said it, Uh yeah, So, I mean, I don't know.
28:25
It's very it's very elastic, I will say, the evangelical
28:28
interpretation of the of the New Testament, So who knows
28:33
if that's gonna work. But like that, you know, we
28:37
we talked a couple of weeks ago about Israel having
28:40
the passports and having the things where you can like
28:44
check people, and there's you know, very thorny human rights
28:47
questions around that. But at the same time, like, what
28:51
are we gonna do when that there's just a big
28:55
chunk of the population enough to keep the coronavirus killing
28:58
people out there who aren't willing to get the vaccine
29:01
and want to just and have never been willing to
29:04
wear masks and just want to re enter into society.
29:06
It's it's a kind of an authorny philosophical question. I mean,
29:11
it's just it's I don't I guess it gets thorny
29:13
because you're like, it's more that you're considering the reaction
29:17
of the child, right, yeah, like fuck, they're not gonna
29:20
fucking like this. Fuck. But it's like, objectively, I don't
29:26
how the funk else can you really get your like,
29:30
how can we can we can we how can we
29:32
get a grip on that on some level? And I
29:35
would love to find the way to figure that out.
29:37
But I think, like most things like where we're trying
29:39
to do with something that feels like the right thing,
29:41
it's always like, well, but then there's that group of
29:43
fucking losers that's gonna scream about it, and now we're
29:47
doing like some other half asked thing. But yeah, I mean,
29:51
I don't know, And it's it's it's it's hard to
29:53
figure out what the best way forward is with something
29:55
like that. I was just going to ask what the
29:57
percentages to um that we need to achieve her to
29:59
immuney it's inexact, but it's between seventy says we're hitting
30:06
that wall around what percentage are we at right now?
30:09
Uh So there is a study, a survey that finds
30:14
fifty percent of US adults say they're either already vaccinated
30:18
or planned to be as soon as the shot is
30:20
made available to them. And then there's a significant percentage
30:24
is like I're gonna wait and see. Uh, and you
30:28
know the things they're waiting to see about are those
30:33
things where it's too late. It's too late once once
30:36
the thing you're waiting to see, if it happens, happens,
30:38
it's too late. And so like, uh, yeah, we're gonna
30:43
be yeah, just a little we're coming up just a
30:46
little bit shy of avoiding uh the deaths, the avoidable
30:51
deaths of a bunch of Americans. Maybe there's a way
30:53
to incentive incentivize the people who don't want to take
30:57
the shots. I don't know if the solution lies there.
30:59
I mean, well, yes, that's yeah, you're not gonna kill people.
31:06
I don't know, he's four rat do I think that's what. Yeah,
31:16
that's the whole thing with the passport. But too many
31:19
governors already. You know, if you live in or a
31:21
red state, the governors are like, hell, no, we're not
31:23
forcing anybody to prove fucking anything to anybody. I mean,
31:26
even Fauci the other day was like, we're not gonna
31:29
I don't take a passports and the cards. But it's
31:32
I don't know how else you disincentivize people from just
31:36
not getting the vaccine and you know, taking cover in
31:39
the post pandemic world where it's like, well, we just
31:42
kind of assume everybody's gotten it because six of us
31:45
have gotten it, and they're just out there, you know, uh,
31:50
putting the rest of the country in danger with their
31:54
shitty politics, just fucking make the just look, this is
31:57
where Disney is going to have to take the l
32:00
and say, nobody's getting fucking in here unless you're vaccinated,
32:04
because they're not gonna boycott. Here's the thing. They're they're
32:08
they're they they're incapable of boycotting anything because they don't
32:11
have values that they actually stand by, which there it's
32:14
all empty threats to just keep the fucking adults, and
32:18
we'll be like, oh funk, they're gonna hate this, aren't they. Uh,
32:21
And you know, when you look because you were talking
32:23
about that one art or maybe this is when you
32:25
were gone this article about how like there were people
32:29
trying to convince their conservative family members to get vaccinated,
32:32
and the one of the few things that seemed to
32:34
work was like, well we can take that trip like well, yeah,
32:38
I'd like to do that. Vacations. Yeah, Like honestly, that's
32:42
like the one thing Americans like to be comfortable. So
32:45
if you take away these other just like slightly rearrange
32:48
things that maybe like if a companies, if three companies
32:52
do it, then that might end up getting you to
32:54
that an extra But I don't know what around at
33:00
a bush of like just trying to like raising the
33:03
possibility of doing like making sure that you're vaccinated before
33:07
you fly. That seems like a very obvious place that
33:10
if you can't fly, you can't travel on train, you
33:14
can't travel on bus without like having your vaccine papers,
33:18
then uh that that would seem to be a pretty
33:22
good incentive. But but then the other I guess, the
33:25
other balancing act is like how do you then make
33:27
the way to prove it as equitable as possible? So
33:30
it's like, well, you don't have a smartphone, right, you
33:33
know what I mean, because that's when that's when you
33:35
instantly cut off millions of people. So it's like there
33:38
has it's look I'm I'm That's why I'm not jealous
33:41
of whoever is in charge of this. Have the mint
33:43
print it like, use whatever technology they use for you know,
33:47
they're they're pretty worried about like people printing false bills
33:51
have like a an equivalent of a hundred dollar bill
33:54
that has that little like blue face COVID vaccine call. Yeah,
33:59
I mean, it's seems like the sort of thing that
34:01
we should be able to because because they had to
34:04
recently shut down uh sellers of fake vaccine proof paperwork
34:10
on like Etsy. And that's what I'm saying, Like we
34:14
can funck like we can create a thing where you
34:16
could get a audio clip of a fart authenticated to
34:21
only being yours the f t s and we can't
34:25
get come on, now, come on, now, what's the what's
34:28
the technology that puts a blockchain on a fart? That
34:31
is what I need to know. I feel like I
34:33
should have as long as you can you can make
34:37
it at a puter file. You can blockchain anyway, black chain,
34:39
and we can black chain this this podcast, Um, it's yeah,
34:45
it's it does seem like there should be a way
34:47
to first of all, like police that because I mean,
34:50
you couldn't sell uh counterfeit hundred dollar bills on Etsy.
34:55
I've tried, it does not go up. And so yeah,
34:59
let's just do the same thing with vaccine papers, Like
35:03
let's make it so that we at least have these
35:06
things that are authentically say whether or not you have
35:08
been vaccinated. And then you know, companies can decide how
35:12
they want to because again, it's the corporations that are
35:15
gonna end up bringing the change, right, because I get it,
35:17
it's a slip rees. You don't want the government ever
35:19
being like papers please, although they kind of are in
35:22
terms of like immigration and things like that, but and
35:25
this level slippery slope. But then you're like, hey, it's
35:28
the free market, baby. You know. If you like buffalo
35:30
wild wings, I hope you like Fizo Moderno or fucking
35:33
jumpson right. Yeah, And then like the culture wars of
35:38
like will there be a like will Ruby Tuesdays or
35:42
like some small like change we welcome exactly. I'm telling you,
35:50
that's quite That's That's what I'm saying like it'll take
35:53
a couple of companies to do it outrage enough Republicans
35:56
and some other conservative owned company will be like, oh,
35:58
we would never trample on the rights of your right
36:01
to infect our wage workers. But I think I always
36:06
think back to that Nike protest when Nike signed up
36:11
Conn Kaepernick and the right was furious, and there was
36:16
that dude who was wearing his Nike socks while cutting
36:20
the like just the logo off the ankle. It's like,
36:25
so you're still rocking them though you're still you're still
36:27
wearing them, You're just like cutting them. So they so
36:30
you're gonna have without that thing holding the sock up.
36:35
But hey, I mean, whatever you gotta do to cape
36:37
for Jefferson Davis. All right, let's talk about Matt Gates.
36:40
Just check in real quick with him. I think the
36:43
women who worked for him have put this whole story
36:47
to bed by using the always effective uh sexual predator
36:54
evidence of well, there are women who he hasn't assaulted
36:59
and been a cree to, so therefore it must mean
37:03
that he's not a creep because I mean, yeah, this,
37:05
I will just read this because that's always like, if
37:09
you're racist, then you need someone to be like as
37:12
a friend to other non whites. Um, and I have
37:16
a few of them who will perform for me for
37:19
my defense. But in this case, this is the press
37:23
that or the statement that came out of his office today.
37:26
The women of US Congressman Matt Gates's official office released
37:30
the following statement after the shocking allegations last week in
37:34
the press, we the women of Congressman Matt Gates's office,
37:40
feel morally obligated to speak out. Also, just so you know,
37:44
no names are specifically signed hip statement just because it's
37:47
written by Matt Gates. Actually, I just read it like
37:51
this toxic fuck. During Congressman gates Is time in office,
37:55
we have been behind the scenes every step of the way.
37:58
We staffed his meetings, we planned his events, we travel
38:01
with him. We have even tracked his schedule. Congressman Gates
38:05
has always been a principle and morally grounded leader. At
38:08
no time has any one of us experienced or witnessed
38:13
anything less than the utmost professionalism and respect. No hint
38:20
of impropriety, no ounce of truthfulness. Okay, maybe twenty seven
38:27
grams of it, but that's a gram short of announce. Now,
38:30
in our office and under Congressman Gates leadership, women are
38:33
not only respected, but have been encouraged time and time
38:40
again to grow, achieve more, and ultimately no our value. Okay,
38:50
let me continue on every occasion he has treated each
38:53
and every one of us would respect. Thus, we uniformly
38:58
reject these allegations as balls. That is such a fucking stretch,
39:02
and get a single one of them to sign their
39:05
name to this wild again and the final one just
39:09
so you know it's really written by a conservative male.
39:12
Congressman Gates will continue to lead by example and stand
39:15
for the people of America who have been maligned by
39:17
the liberal elite, and we will stand with him. While
39:21
we recognize the scrutiny we will face for making this decision,
39:24
we take comfort in the hope that more Americans and
39:27
elected officials will stand up and refuse to remain silent
39:32
about what sex trafficking. Yeah about the pictures he was
39:36
showing people. Sorry, I had to sit back down after
39:39
standing to salute after that statement, though, I mean there
39:43
and then, and unfortunately the details are just getting worse
39:46
and more clear that he absolutely has everything to do
39:50
with this. Joel Greenberg, guy who's under investigation. Uh. The
39:53
last thing that came out was like over the before
39:55
the weekend where these VENMO receipts to that popped up
39:59
to old Greenberg, the guy who's trafficking these young women
40:02
and girls in certain instances where Gates sent Greenberg nine
40:06
dollars and then the next day Greenberg is sending out
40:08
nine hundred dollars in different denominations to three different women.
40:12
So it says the membo field for the first of
40:14
Gates's transactions to Greenberg was titled quote test. In the second,
40:18
the Florida GOP congressman wrote hit up blank, but instead
40:20
of a blank, Gates wrote a nickname for one of
40:22
the recipients um. When Greenberg and this, the Daily Beast
40:26
said they're not sharing that nickname because the teenager had
40:28
only turned eighteen eighteen years old less than six months
40:31
before this transaction. When Greenberg then made his Venmo payments
40:35
to these three young women, he described the money as
40:37
being for one payment quote tuition, one quote school, and
40:41
the other one quote school Q. And on are you there,
40:45
can you help? Huh? Are you where is your energy? Q?
40:49
Where is that energy? For the for the child? The
40:51
child sex trafficking because or is it is it just
40:53
cover for your your ignorance of white spremes. I don't know,
40:56
but if it help um. So now two to two
40:59
of US affers have already resigned, probably more at this point,
41:02
and he's truly now going for the defense that we
41:08
saw a certain Alabama Secretary of State deploy last week,
41:12
where he says this is from his office. Matt Gates
41:14
has never paid for sex. Matt Gates refutes all the
41:17
disgusting allegations completely. Matt Gates has never ever been on it,
41:21
he said, never ever, come on now, has never ever
41:24
been on any such websites whatsoever. Matt Gates cherishes the
41:27
relationships in his past and looks forward to marrying the
41:31
love of his life. Says like never always. I'm like,
41:36
you're already lying never ever never ever, ever ever ever.
41:42
He just got E did right, dude? I swear my mom. Dude,
41:47
I swear my mom. I sweared my mom. I had
41:49
ever paid for sex? Bro. I next, dude, make swearing
41:52
anything named something right now? My grandma do you know
41:54
how much I love her? Bro? I'll strow on that ship, okay, Grandma?
41:59
And the cross there is of of the universe. Yeah,
42:02
of letting karma across your poor grandma because you are
42:05
a fucking sex criminal allegedly. Um. And also it got
42:09
even worse because news then broke that Greenberg Joel Greenberg,
42:13
he's gonna make He's gonna I think he's gonna take
42:15
a plea Yeah. Yeah, so he's going to be cooper rating,
42:21
meaning Gates may now become the prize show horse he
42:24
always wanted to be. And I just want to play
42:27
this clip because Joel Greenberg's lawyer, dude, credit to this guy.
42:33
I'm just gonna play this exchange or right after they
42:35
talk about like the plea deal happening, immediately the press
42:39
is like to Joel Greenberg's lawyers like, hey, like, so
42:42
what do you think this means for Gates? And he's
42:44
trying his best, y'all. But this is a beautiful bit
42:47
of back and forth between Joel Greenberg's lawyer on the
42:50
heels of announcing that they're probably gonna take a plea deal.
42:52
Does Matt Gates have anything to worry about? Does Matt
42:57
Gates that is such a um? Does he uh have
43:06
anything to worry about? And you're asking me to get
43:11
into the mind of Matt Gates, and uh, well, from
43:16
your mind, from my mind's see, I thought if I
43:25
kept on talking and talking, I would avoid these questions
43:29
and not to say, um, I'm sure Matt Gates is
43:33
not feeling very comfortable today. Damn he this is and
43:41
it's while he also did the dumb man thing where
43:44
you you know you fucked up. So you're just gonna
43:48
laboriously repeat the question back what did I do last
43:51
night at the club? So you're asking should you be
43:56
worried about what I did? Okay, so you want me
43:58
to enter the mind of you, my partner. Okay, just
44:03
playing this out here because I do need let me
44:05
let me just write this down real quick. Let me okay,
44:08
let me just write down. UM, so you're the subject.
44:10
But I do love I have to respect that he
44:13
came clean. I was like I thought, if I kept
44:15
repeating what you're saying that I would run out the clock.
44:19
And it doesn't seem to have worked. And so yeah,
44:23
he's fucked. Yeah that was beautiful. Please you know, just
44:30
resign and fucking whatever. I mean, it's so weird too,
44:34
like when these staffers leave now, it's like, oh, it
44:36
wasn't the racist insurrection is ship or the other stuff
44:39
before just weird when people draw these lines, but it
44:42
also shows you the nature of working in politics is
44:45
like you're truly like hitching your wagon to a star
44:48
and when you realize it's about to explode, like you
44:51
got to try and take that momentum and like hopefully
44:53
jettisons you into like another orbit. But I don't know
44:56
how the funk you're gonna leave have this on your resume.
44:59
You might be like, oh, I actually didn't work from
45:04
I was just smoking mad weed. That's the best you
45:08
can do. Uh. It's just like Matt Gates is such
45:13
an idiot. Yeah, it's really steel. Like I would almost
45:19
say I feel bad for white men because like damn,
45:22
like the world reflected some dumb ship back to y'all,
45:24
like you could, like you could get away with this
45:26
kind of ship, and it's made you the worst criminals
45:29
on earth. It was wild because it's like for so
45:32
long they get away with it that why wouldn't the
45:35
fact that what they do because they can get away
45:37
with it, It's like, oh, you're fucked up, Like it
45:40
takes pleasure in ruining people. Mm hmm, Like there, it's crazy.
45:46
I mean I'm thinking about like Scott Uden also just
45:49
because like yeah, yeah, like unnecessarily cruel, and it's it's
45:57
purely for your own personal gratification, you know what I mean,
46:00
It's not even about the other person. It's like you're
46:01
you're completely out of control and you're like, oh, that's
46:04
how I just respond to ship. And I do that
46:05
because I'm not willing to for a second create some
46:09
self awareness or figure out like if this is the
46:11
right thing. It's just me indulging my fucking worst impulses constantly. Yeah,
46:17
it's so important for them to make those worst impulses
46:21
a part of what like drove them to success. Yeah,
46:27
rather than it just being you got lucky and you
46:31
happen to be of a certain level of intelligence that
46:33
you were able to do this thing and you could
46:35
have been nice the whole fucking or Matt Gates like, bro,
46:39
you had everything You're from from a so much wealth,
46:43
familial wealth. Like he grew up in the Truman show House.
46:46
Do you know that? Yeah? Literally the Truman show House
46:50
literally the house that they made the Truman Show in,
46:53
that they shot the Truman Show in. Oh no, So
46:56
he has main character syndrome oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
47:00
for sure. They've been just feeding him privileged like he's
47:05
like they're trying to make fog raw like just NonStop
47:09
advantages and he doesn't. That's that's just it's he's curdled. Yeah,
47:16
all right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
47:19
right back. And we're back, and let's talk about the
47:34
Capitol Police. Uh, we have a Inspector General report or
47:39
like you know, the beginnings of what the Inspector General
47:43
preliminary reports. Yeah, and it's just I mean it's not
47:48
the really new aside from like verifying like yeah, these
47:53
assholes were truly a ship show over there. Um, like
47:56
at every level, right, so um, the watch clothe this
47:59
is from this it up in talking points, says the
48:01
Watchdog suggests that there were a number of several long
48:05
standing issues that the department quote either knew and did
48:07
not address in time, or did not address in a
48:09
routine manner to prevent uh significant issues within the apartment's
48:14
handling of equipment, maintenance policies for the Civil Disturbance Unit,
48:19
and intelligence ahead of the breaching of the Capital The
48:21
Watchdog acknowledged the failure of intelligence assessment by the Department
48:26
in light of a warning by the Department of Homeland
48:29
Security on December twenty one that the Capitol Police received
48:34
and then failed to act on, Like there was even
48:37
a thing they said. There was like equipment, like some
48:40
kind of like self defense whip weaponry or whatever that
48:43
the manufacturer had told them they needed to get like
48:45
training on specifically for this piece of equipment that they
48:48
just didn't do for three years, like on top of
48:51
all this other stuff. So you're like, oh, these people,
48:52
just what the like this is? In short, I think
48:55
it was like if you watch Kitchen Nightmares and Gordon
48:58
Ramsey shows up to prove that your restaurants bullshit. What
49:01
he does he sets you up on that first night
49:03
and just slams the kitchen with the most customers this
49:07
dying restaurant has ever seen, and then he just watches
49:09
as the kitchen just collapses under the web of its
49:12
own ineptitude. In this case, Trump was Gordon Ramsey, and
49:15
he said, all the customers to the Capitol and basically
49:18
they're like, oh, y'all found us out, like we're bullshit.
49:21
Actually on top of having people who are sympathetic to
49:24
all this ship within and I'm sure, that's another phase
49:26
of the investigation, which just crazy because it's like your
49:29
one job as a unit is security and you failed.
49:34
Like so like the negligence is are they going well,
49:38
I guess they're still digging stuff up, researching, like investigating,
49:42
but is someone going to jail for this? Is someone
49:45
being you know, tried for people died that was that
49:50
was not? I mean I think at some point, yeah,
49:52
there could be civil suits on behalf of the people
49:55
who lost their lives against like whatever the leadership was.
49:58
But I know, you know, many of them have all
50:00
resigned or been fired. Um, so they're kind of in
50:03
this like I don't know, you know what point they're
50:06
in in their evolution, but like it seems like they're
50:08
definitely people who knew that it was such a ship
50:10
show to begin with, and then there are people who
50:13
probably just didn't give a fucking you know, it leads
50:15
to this doing doing this Inspector General's report independent of
50:21
like the ideological content and the the fact that you
50:26
had people who are sympathetic to this attack. Like it's
50:29
just it's like a lot of what they're talking about
50:33
feels like it it assumes that this would have been
50:37
the same response if there weren't people who who liked
50:41
what they were hearing, or if this has been a
50:43
Black Lives Matter protests. I'm assuming if this were a
50:47
Black Lives Matter protest, the response would have been, you know,
50:50
not not insufficient. It would have the question would have been,
50:55
should that many of people have died? Should that many
50:58
people have been killed by the capital police? Not? What
51:01
was the capital police on this one? It would have
51:03
been like a Kent State type ship where like and
51:07
and so that, like any investigation where it's just like
51:11
they weren't oiling down their guns as much as they
51:14
should have been, and like that's where it really I'm
51:17
sure that's true. I'm sure it's probably at least partially
51:21
because they didn't view the people who were coming as
51:25
an actual threat, because those people were them, they were
51:29
their friends, and I think, you know, these are This
51:31
is obviously a preliminary report, and I believe this week
51:34
the Inspector General is probably gonna be testifying in front
51:36
of Congress or like those other questions will be asked.
51:39
But I have a feeling things like those real accusations
51:43
to start being like these people though, I think really
51:46
we need to ask questions to as during about their
51:50
conduct in like the day of days leading up to
51:53
because I'm that's what I feel like that's going to
51:55
be the most significant part if it gets there. I
51:59
don't know where to to really begin pinpointing, like how
52:03
from like a personnel level, what the failings were, because
52:07
it can't just be like, oh, you know that one
52:09
officer had to fight off all those people, those q
52:11
and on people in the steps on the way to
52:13
the Senate because you know he didn't know how to
52:15
use his other taser or something. No. Yeah, I mean
52:19
we've seen it from the very first episode of this
52:21
show that happened. I think the first like test recording
52:24
we did was right after Charlottesville, and there was you
52:28
just saw these like big white cops sitting in the
52:33
background while a white supremacist fired shots into a crowd
52:37
like and did nothing, didn't nothing, didn't respond to it.
52:42
Like there is a deep probably like the American law
52:48
enforcement community is rotten to its core, is white supremacist
52:51
to its core, and like not not having that be
52:55
the very first thing that we acknowledge anytime we're asking
52:58
these questions is especially in an insurrection fucking staged by
53:05
right wing white supremacists. Like that's that's it just seems
53:10
like it's completely putting logic on its head. That's that's
53:14
how this country tries to solve the problem, you know,
53:17
because it's it's so entrenched in it, it's unable to
53:20
figure out how to properly unburden itself from white supremacy.
53:23
So it happens through all this incremental nonsense or you know,
53:26
Joe Biden and be like, I don't know, here deal
53:28
d o, j here's like a bunch of money to
53:30
figure out what to do. Now, well your guns, better
53:33
have your give them training, you know, try and create
53:37
Like listen to the activists, the people who are constantly
53:40
butting their heads against this fucked up system as to
53:45
what is how to really remedy it. But of course
53:49
that is this This just shows you what side or
53:52
how you know, our leaders look at these sort of
53:54
issues to be like, oh, well, I can't just make
53:55
it hot for the police. It's like, well, do you
53:59
care about the innocent people that die because of their
54:02
actions rather than upsetting the people who were like I
54:05
should be allowed to fucking murder undisturbed. Yeah, yeah, alright,
54:10
let's talk about the Amazon uh defeat the Amazon workers
54:16
defeat of the union at the Alabama warehouse courting in
54:20
New York Times. They have since changed that changed that
54:24
headline since I screen kept it this morning on Friday morning.
54:27
But yeah, it's you know, it's pretty wild, like people
54:32
weren't surprised by this, right, Like, so we've been talking
54:35
just the background on this is there was a fulfillment
54:39
center in Alabama where people, like, despite it being a
54:45
very anti union area, like not nobody would have thought
54:49
of this as the first place to unionize, but the
54:52
conditions of of the workers there were so bad that
54:56
like they started to like get some momentum. So this
54:59
was a big test of whether the workers were going
55:02
to be able to unionize. But it's like nobody was
55:06
surprised that they weren't successful because you're fighting against like
55:11
the most well funded entity in a system that favors
55:17
the well funded like the most well funded entity um
55:22
and and the rules favor the corporations um and not
55:26
the unions and have for the past forty years. But yeah, so,
55:30
so some of the ways that Amazon dealt with these
55:33
employees attempts to unionize other than you know, just being
55:37
allowed to hold multiple meetings throughout a work day where
55:42
employees were encouraged to go and take in anti union
55:46
propaganda just posters. They said it was mandated. Was it mandatory?
55:52
I mean I've I've I've read versions where I've seen
55:55
the word mandated and required. Yeah, so yeah, you had
55:59
to go watch that. The just workplace was wallpapered with propaganda,
56:04
anti union propaganda, and they took pictures of employee badges
56:10
when they spoke out at the union busting meetings, like
56:14
in favor of the unions. If if you spoke out
56:16
and be like this is horseshit there, like what and
56:19
then someone one person in management just would casually come
56:22
up and take it, like not say anything, but clearly
56:25
as a way to intimidate those geople. Yeah, took down
56:28
the employee directory that helped organized workers, asked the postal
56:33
service to install a mailbox at the warehouse as a
56:36
way to intimidate employees from sending in a ballot at
56:40
work since it wasn't clear who actually controlled it or
56:44
just harvesting ballots for your pro like anti union votes
56:48
or whatever. Just like very messy. And then the other thing, um,
56:52
what was the fucking other one. Oh yeah, I remember
56:55
they were changing they had the city changed the speed
56:57
of the traffic lights so organizers couldn't have aproach employees
57:00
cars at a stoplight. Wow. They did everything they fucking
57:05
could to stop this ship. And then want to be like, well,
57:09
you know, we're paying people fifteen thirty an hour, which
57:12
higher the most places, and they get all these other things.
57:14
So you know, beggars can't be choosers. We all know that, right,
57:16
Beggars can't be choosers. It's it's wild, not surprising at all.
57:22
And I know they're they're gonna they're gonna dispute that
57:24
because of all, like especially the mailbox thing that there,
57:28
there's this, it's going to be disputed. But it just
57:30
shows you how long these kinds of things take. The
57:33
whole thing, the whole system, including the New York Times
57:36
and the mainstream media that gets out to the rest
57:40
of the country, is all tilted in their favor. That's
57:43
all tilted in their favor. I mean, I hopefully we
57:45
just see more and more attempts at it like this,
57:48
because you know, people need I think granted they got
57:51
blown out in the votes, um, but people need again
57:55
it's like everything more. We need to have the imagination
57:58
in this country that it's possible to work collectively for
58:02
better outcomes for each other. Like that. That's just like
58:05
this weird, nebulous thing that not we're We're just not
58:10
a tipping point where enough American people understand that that's
58:13
a way to get ship done. Yeah, I was. I
58:16
think people see competition as the way versus community, whereas
58:22
community what I know, there's an old proverb I believe
58:26
it's an African proverb. We can you know, get you
58:30
get further together something you go. If you do it yourself,
58:35
you can go faster. Oh, if you run together, you
58:37
can go further. But I think but you run alone,
58:39
you'll go faster, but not as far as something I believe. Yeah,
58:42
so that, I mean, that's sort of figurative for what's
58:47
going on here in terms of like priorities, like okay,
58:50
we want to look out for ourselves, but long term,
58:53
you know, I mean, look what's happening. You know, it's
58:56
like the buildings crumbling, and yeah, maybe yours is okay
58:59
right now, but if the infrastructure around you is falling,
59:03
like your your unit in your building is not gonna
59:06
stand m hm right, My analogies are not as good
59:11
as Miles. I had to give it a shot. That
59:17
was good. Yeah, I mean, just the the fact that
59:20
it's not understood by most people that like, so the
59:27
a lot of the most probably anti union people in
59:30
the country, like the Trump voters, the people on the right,
59:34
all kind of uh romanticized this time of like the fifties,
59:42
when the like early twentieth century, when there was like
59:45
a more robust middle class, and they don't recognize that
59:49
that was a time before like unions had been completely obliterated,
59:54
when like workers actually had had rights like but that
59:59
it's just such a it's so completely like antithetical to
1:00:05
what what the central American like messaging is that like you,
1:00:10
you just can't get that message out or any purchase,
1:00:14
like it won't stick to people or hasn't. I feel
1:00:18
like we're starting to turn a corner a little bit, right,
1:00:21
And I mean you can tell just how I mean.
1:00:24
It's the relationship between income inequality and union participation is
1:00:30
right there for everyone to see. It's a fucking X
1:00:33
as a line graph. The second it started going down,
1:00:38
all the incoming and equalities began to creep up. That's
1:00:41
why a lot of times there's these a lot of
1:00:43
people they talk about if minimum wage had kept up
1:00:46
with CEO pay since whatever the seventies or eighties, minimum
1:00:50
wage would be something like forty five an hour right
1:00:52
now at minimum. But you know, that's that's just too
1:00:57
much for a person to make to just move boxes around.
1:01:01
That's not how it works. That's not and I think
1:01:04
that's the relationship that not enough employers look as them
1:01:09
having that duty to employees because that's how capitalism works,
1:01:11
Like you don't give a funk about their lives because
1:01:13
you're just trying to get the most out of them
1:01:14
by paying them at least as little as possible. But funck,
1:01:18
if more people could be like, yeah, actually, like I
1:01:20
pay these people to to be alive, and they give
1:01:23
me their life hours to sustain the business, and so
1:01:27
maybe I have some responsibility to make sure that these
1:01:30
people who are helping me, but whatever, Like, look at me,
1:01:33
I sound like some kind of common fucking communist. Yeah, like,
1:01:40
for whatever reason, we just were not able to cross
1:01:42
that bridge, or not enough people see that, like the
1:01:45
actual the positivity, the good outcomes, the abundance that will
1:01:50
come with that very short term goals here. Yeah, it's
1:01:55
like the junk food of just the Central American Like
1:01:59
all of our messaging is like focus on the billionaires.
1:02:02
Can the Kardashians are celebrities, they're billionaires, the Jeff Bezos.
1:02:06
What's he have to say, He's going to space, that
1:02:08
fucking rules. Elon Musk, there are other richest guy in
1:02:11
the country. What's he have to say? Oh, he's so cool,
1:02:14
he's a celebrity. He's like you just hear like I
1:02:17
hear people quote Elon Musk like he's fucking confucious, and
1:02:21
it's just the whole system is just so thoroughly shot through.
1:02:26
In the d n A uh well, there's like levels
1:02:30
of willing to to look at yourself positively depending on
1:02:34
like your ideology and how you consume media in this country.
1:02:37
One version is I want to be a celebrity because
1:02:40
where I'm at now is a non person And that's
1:02:43
why I like celebrities so much, because when I get there,
1:02:46
then I can start living this life that I feel like,
1:02:49
is what is the cool thing that I've just been
1:02:51
being fed through my TV or phone screen? Um, And
1:02:55
I think that because of that obsession, there's an utter
1:02:59
net negligence of looking at who we are as we are,
1:03:03
in the state we're in now, and how to make
1:03:06
that better, rather than being like, oh, well, I'm just
1:03:08
in a broke person phase where I have a job
1:03:10
that poor people have and then I'll get my rich
1:03:13
person job, rather than like actually looking at there. Everyone
1:03:17
has the right to live comfortably and to succeed and
1:03:21
to be supported no matter what your occupation is. And
1:03:24
I think we already like the way we rank what
1:03:26
an occupation is is another part and parcel to how
1:03:29
we begin to you know, wag fingers and be like,
1:03:31
oh I can't do that, I'm above that, or I'm
1:03:33
beneath that, you know what I mean. It's just there's
1:03:35
just a like, there's so many things to have to
1:03:37
dismantle in terms of how you look at yourself and
1:03:39
what it means to fucking work. Um, but you know,
1:03:44
but Kylie and Kendall are already back at Mr Nice Guy,
1:03:48
and Drake is there too. And then Chris Brown wrecked
1:03:51
his Porsche and he didn't even punch somebody, right, Okay, alright,
1:03:56
well on that, alright, U fuck it, I have a
1:04:04
great week. I'm probably not back tomorrow. I'm gonna go
1:04:09
sleep for a few days. No, but it'll be okay.
1:04:12
That's all. That's all we gotta do is that we
1:04:13
encourage everybody to look at ship differently and that we
1:04:16
can you know what I mean. And I think that's
1:04:18
the thing is, like it's easy to get discouraged because
1:04:20
you look at ship like this, and Amazon and The
1:04:22
New York Times are fucking sixty nine ng with each
1:04:25
other and they're like, oh my god, they you know
1:04:28
what I mean, we can do this ship. It's just
1:04:31
we just fucking think of it. Just envision that ship first,
1:04:33
because too many people just think the ship ends with dude,
1:04:37
I'm not gonna get that from my boss. Fuck that
1:04:41
kind of thinking. Fuck all of that kind of thinking.
1:04:44
That's it. That's it. No. But I mean it does
1:04:48
seem like with with the event of like more, you know,
1:04:53
like that it's the one good thing about social media
1:04:56
and the like forms of media like podcasts that I
1:04:58
feel like, you know, the New York Times used to
1:05:01
be considered like well, that's as left wing as you're
1:05:03
gonna get, like other than like you know, zines that
1:05:08
are like given away in cities like and now they're
1:05:12
at least like more ways for you to actually like
1:05:15
learn from people who aren't being funded by uh Amazon necessarily. Right, Yeah,
1:05:23
uh physic It's been such a pleasure having you as always,
1:05:27
where can people find you? And folly thanks for having me. Um,
1:05:31
I'm at physicists any and all the platforms at UM.
1:05:35
I'll go ahead and spell it for you. F I
1:05:37
Z A A D O S A N I. I
1:05:41
know it sounds like a carbonated beverage. I don't have
1:05:44
one yet, So if anyone's interested one of these days,
1:05:47
anyone in the water business, hit me up. I mean,
1:05:50
if you guys want to see me perform live. I'm
1:05:53
doing a live stream, interactive virtual show on the last
1:05:57
Friday of every month. This is our first show with
1:06:00
rush Ticks, which is a new streaming platform which I
1:06:04
think will be like sort of like live Nation has
1:06:07
kind of I don't want to say Monopoly, but like
1:06:10
they're on top of the live performance. Yeah, let's just
1:06:14
say Monopoly. Well, rush Takes I think way be like
1:06:17
a major player in the live stream world. UM. So
1:06:21
I'm excited to see you know how that show goes. Um.
1:06:24
It's gonna be April eight pm Pacific time, eleven pm
1:06:28
Eastern time, Come through, come hang out. We like to
1:06:33
keep it interactive and like you know, the audience is
1:06:36
part of the show as well. So definitely come through
1:06:39
if you can. And if you guys want to come
1:06:40
come on, well we can talk offline. Ye uh. And
1:06:46
is there a Twitter some of the work of social
1:06:48
media you've been enjoying. Yeah, I don't know if you
1:06:50
guys are familiar with Do you guys know God from
1:06:52
the God Pod on Twitter? Um? I don't think so.
1:06:56
So he became a Palamne through clubhouse. Um, it's it's
1:07:00
funny because it's like being friendshouse. Yeah, because a clubhouse.
1:07:04
It's crazy because it's like being friends with Borat but
1:07:07
like not Sasha Baron Cohen. So the man behind God,
1:07:11
you know, I don't know, but his he recently posted something. Um,
1:07:15
Religion isn't dangerous or bad, except for when it leads
1:07:18
to huge wars, or when people are so anti science
1:07:21
they refuse to take vaccines, or when they use it
1:07:23
to justify their bigotry, probably forgetting a few things. But
1:07:26
other than that, it's just great, nail it. He sounds
1:07:31
like Seth Rogan, So I wish I could do it.
1:07:33
In his voice, the guy, the guy who is God
1:07:37
sounds like Seth Rogan. Yeah, man, you gotta um, I'll
1:07:41
pin you into his next room. I help him with
1:07:43
the room called ask Got anything. It's like a comedy room. Um.
1:07:47
Sometimes Satan comes in there. Sometimes we have a Jesus UM.
1:07:52
It's pretty nuts. This is actually when God retweeted um.
1:07:56
It's by al Snow and his is I just kicked
1:08:00
out of flat Earth Facebook group because I asked if
1:08:03
the six foot social distancing had pushed anyone over the edge.
1:08:12
Miles Where can people find you and follow you? You
1:08:15
can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of
1:08:18
Gray and also the other podcast four twenty Day Fiance. Okay, yes.
1:08:23
A tweet that I like is from Louis Vertell. It
1:08:26
says kids today have not watched their mom breakdown at
1:08:29
a Blockbuster counter over an eleven dollar late fee for
1:08:32
little giants, and it shows um, and I've I've not
1:08:38
not that my parents broke down, but I remember like
1:08:41
the ship where you return some ship late and then
1:08:44
you go to rent a new one and you're like, oh, yeah,
1:08:46
you know you have a late fee. And then I
1:08:48
would get the look from like one of my parents
1:08:51
because I lived by a Blockbuster and I would have
1:08:52
to go ride my bike to return. And I was like, oh, really,
1:08:56
I don't know. I want to watch Mantis today. Uh Mantis? Wait?
1:09:09
What is man Man? This was on Fox. It was
1:09:12
that like black superhero who had like a fucking suit
1:09:14
of armor and ship on the ship was not on
1:09:17
for very long. And if those I remember you fucking remember, yeah,
1:09:21
I watched this is this probably explains a lot about me.
1:09:24
I watched Real American Hero, which was about like a
1:09:27
clumsy dork who was a superhero and like had a
1:09:32
blonde afro, and uh, it was on during the day
1:09:36
when I was like four for some reason. There you go.
1:09:38
Made you the manure today? Yes? Yes, Brody Gupta tweeted,
1:09:43
do you think the first judge was getting his hair
1:09:45
cut during a case? And that's why they wear Barbara capes?
1:09:48
And the haircut was bad, which explains the wig ship
1:09:53
makes a lot of sense to me. You can find
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1:10:11
we talked about in today's episode, as well as a
1:10:15
song that we recommend you go check out and vibe to.
1:10:19
Uh miles. What song should the listeners go? Oh? Man,
1:10:23
So this is uh m C that a friend introduced
1:10:26
me to a while back called Billy Woods uh with
1:10:28
producer Kenny Siegel. Um and you probably you might know,
1:10:31
you might be already up on them already, but we're
1:10:34
gonna go out on a track called SpongeBob because this
1:10:37
whole operation underwater, fam, he says, in the fucking this
1:10:42
is a really at the production is really dope. It's
1:10:44
got like it's very backpack hip hop vibe, and you
1:10:48
know the room we're feeling, we're feeling we're in our
1:10:50
hip hop bag at the moment. So this is Billy
1:10:52
Woods with SpongeBob. Al right, go check that out. The
1:10:57
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